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Speaker 1: And welcome in lakeke Is Live. It is Sunday night,

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Speaker 1: July eleventh, View of Our Lord twenty twenty one. This time,

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Speaker 1: two months from now, you and I will be sitting

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Speaker 1: here discussing not even week one. We'll be breaking down

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Speaker 1: Week two of college football. That's how close we are.

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Speaker 1: A lot of you have friends, you hadn't seen it

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Speaker 1: in a little while. A lot of you have family.

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Speaker 1: You need to go visit Aaron's. You need to run.

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Speaker 1: You got less than sixty days to do it. That's

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Speaker 1: all I'll tell you. We got a jam packed show tonight.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for tuning in. Show the other

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Speaker 1: night did incredible numbers, which pales in comparison to what

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Speaker 1: we will do in the season. But still a lot

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Speaker 1: of you we would call them p ones in the

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Speaker 1: radio world, which means they're just there all the time.

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Speaker 1: We got a lot of pe ones on the entire

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Speaker 1: Late Kit crew here, So thank you so much. Let

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Speaker 1: me tell you what we're talking about tonight, because we're

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Speaker 1: gonna go all over the country and we got a

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Speaker 1: lot of stuff that is it'll look like on the

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Speaker 1: surface it's narrowed down to one or two teams, but

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Speaker 1: in reality, it's gonna affect all of you. There is

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Speaker 1: a situation happening in Texas, but not just the University,

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Speaker 1: of the entire Texas recruiting scene. If you're an Ohio

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Speaker 1: or a Florida fan or an LSU fan. USCU guys

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Speaker 1: all go in there. Oregon famously has been going into

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Speaker 1: Texas lately. Well, that's kind of what it's about. There

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Speaker 1: are some things that are said and thought about being

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Speaker 1: into that. It's really interesting and it may be common

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Speaker 1: lot of people have realized it yet. Also, Brad Crawford

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Speaker 1: did a really good feature it's still on twenty four

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Speaker 1: to seven sports dot com about the most polarizing teams

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, but not necessarily a love or

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Speaker 1: a hate thing, just the teams with the widest discrepancy

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Speaker 1: and expectation level. And there are some out there. An example, quickly,

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Speaker 1: do you know that some preseason publications in college football

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Speaker 1: preview magazine World don't even have Florida listed in the

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Speaker 1: top twenty five. We will discuss speaking of Florida. Thats

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Speaker 1: us you Florida game this year. It's not game preview

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Speaker 1: time yet. I'm not going to be one of those

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Speaker 1: folks who puts out my first edition of a preview

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Speaker 1: on a game and then I revised the prediction three

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Speaker 1: times before the game. However, I got some broad strokes

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Speaker 1: thoughts on LSU Florida because sometimes games have a little

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Speaker 1: in that particular league, and that's one of them that

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Speaker 1: I think will have a ripple effect throughout the SEC

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Speaker 1: and as a result, throughout college football this year. And lastly,

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Speaker 1: the whole nil situation. You know, we've kind of skirted

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Speaker 1: about it, But there are certain aspects of nil, some

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Speaker 1: layers to that onion that you very much do care about. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's about you and nil. I'm not giving out money necessarily.

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Speaker 1: giving out money. But it does have to do with

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Speaker 1: That's just setting the table. I appreciate our high school

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Speaker 1: coaching staffs watching the show. A lot of them do.

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Speaker 1: I correspond with a lot of you guys. Well, the

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Speaker 1: backlog of about fifty high school staffs watching the show.

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Speaker 1: So tonight Coach a Motto and staff down in Cocoa

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Speaker 1: Beach High School, Coco Beach, Florida, what's up to you guys,

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Speaker 1: a whole lot of stuff to get to college football's

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Speaker 1: But the polarization with Florida, they're in lives because not

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Speaker 1: Really good offense, but they get put on skates when

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Speaker 1: not from Humble Texas, but just from Humble Texas. I

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Speaker 1: got corrected. If I got corrected once, I got corrected

430
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Speaker 1: five hundred and fifty times on the pronunciation. And the

431
00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:46,000
Speaker 1: bad part is I know people from Humble Texas. I

432
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Speaker 1: know an elected official in Humble Texas. But that's not

433
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Speaker 1: what we're here for. We're here to talk about college

434
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Speaker 1: football and the recruiting scene. Boy, it's changed in Texas.

435
00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,600
Speaker 1: So there was this long held assumption many of you

436
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Speaker 1: probably still feel this way, and that is, if you're

437
00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,800
Speaker 1: a program, a major program in Texas, you've got this

438
00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,679
Speaker 1: massive advantage. Why well, number one money if you're Texas

439
00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,080
Speaker 1: or Texas A and then yeah, you got a lot

440
00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,359
Speaker 1: of money to play with. But the real rubber meets

441
00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,760
Speaker 1: the road advantage that you have if you reside in

442
00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:16,239
Speaker 1: the lone star state is all this recruiting talent. And

443
00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,160
Speaker 1: that's true. And the follow up to that assumption that's

444
00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,600
Speaker 1: never stated but just implied, is you've got the default

445
00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,760
Speaker 1: advantage because all of those kids want to stay in state,

446
00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,920
Speaker 1: do they at one point in time they did? This

447
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,560
Speaker 1: is the rub This is where the landscape has changed,

448
00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,520
Speaker 1: so that perception, for example, with Steve Sarkisian being hired

449
00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,280
Speaker 1: at Texas is well, he's gonna go there, he's gonna

450
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,560
Speaker 1: run a high octane offense. Oh and by the way,

451
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,360
Speaker 1: he's gonna have a lot of athletes. Why, because they're

452
00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,399
Speaker 1: gonna virtually have their They're gonna have their pick of

453
00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,959
Speaker 1: all these elite athletes across the state of Texas. And

454
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,639
Speaker 1: they don't have to lock down the state. It's Texas.

455
00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,200
Speaker 1: They got dozens and dozens and dozens of kids every year,

456
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Speaker 1: so they only need to sign twenty five a year,

457
00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,280
Speaker 1: like they'll be fine, right, maybe, but it used to

458
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Speaker 1: be a reality. It's not so much reality anymore. And

459
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,679
Speaker 1: there were several things that happened. Mike roach Over on

460
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,800
Speaker 1: Horns twenty four to seven did a great job of

461
00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,440
Speaker 1: kind of breaking this down layer by layer the other day,

462
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Speaker 1: and I talked to some other scouting types at both

463
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Speaker 1: the high school and college level in the state of Texas,

464
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Speaker 1: and they totally echoed the sentiment of what's changed in

465
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Speaker 1: the state of Texas. And if you don't pay attention

466
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Speaker 1: to this, it may kind of come as a shock

467
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Speaker 1: to you. But people on the ground in Texas. They're

468
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Speaker 1: going to all nod their head because they know that

469
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Speaker 1: this is real. It's true, it's been happening, and it's

470
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Speaker 1: not just an overnight thing. I want to take you

471
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Speaker 1: back because it started to happen even when Tom Herman

472
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Speaker 1: was at Texas. Mike Roach pointed all this out. You know,

473
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Speaker 1: Tom Herman landed the number three class back in I

474
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Speaker 1: think it was twenty eighteen. Herman is at Texas, he

475
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Speaker 1: lands the number three class. Okay, so that sets up

476
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Speaker 1: that default talking point until the end of his tenure. Well,

477
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,360
Speaker 1: he's got all this talent, why isn't he winning. Well

478
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Speaker 1: that was a separate discussion. He did have a lot

479
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Speaker 1: of talent that he brought in. But that's where the

480
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Speaker 1: big change started to happen. Herman signed the number three class.

481
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Speaker 1: But even then the wheels were in motion. Here's what

482
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Speaker 1: was happening. Number one, Oklahoma was at the tail end

483
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Speaker 1: of the Stoops era. You had the very beginning of

484
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Speaker 1: the Lincoln Riley era, but that recruiting cycle, it was

485
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 1: a transition for Oklahoma, so they didn't have their feet

486
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Speaker 1: under him yet. Texas took advantage. Number two Texas A

487
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 1: and m was at the very tail end of the

488
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Speaker 1: Kevin Sumlin era. Insert Jimbo Fisher. They don't have their

489
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Speaker 1: legs under him. From a recruiting standpoint, Texas takes advantage

490
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Speaker 1: number three. Yeah, Bama was already in the state, and

491
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Speaker 1: Ohio state was already in Texas too, but you didn't

492
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Speaker 1: have Clemson out there, you didn't have Oregon to deal with,

493
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Speaker 1: you didn't have all these other contenders coming in the state.

494
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Speaker 1: Whereas if you just fast forward three more years, it's

495
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Speaker 1: a shark fest out there. It's crazy. And what's happening

496
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Speaker 1: is now you've had some transition at Texas a couple

497
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Speaker 1: of times to where kids that are seventeen or eighteen

498
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Speaker 1: years old right now they're not bleeding burn orange from

499
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Speaker 1: birth quite like they were because they've had a couple

500
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Speaker 1: of cycles. Now, Well, you know, think about their life.

501
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 1: Their life is only seventeen years old, their cognizant life

502
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,199
Speaker 1: is only like eleven or twelve years old. Well, what

503
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,360
Speaker 1: has Texas football been for them? You know, they probably

504
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 1: are learning to walk and talk about the time Texas

505
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 1: is losing Obama in that National Championship game and the

506
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 1: rest of it. It's very, very up and down a

507
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 1: little more down than up. They remember the Charlie Strong era,

508
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 1: they remember the Tom Herman era, and now you've got

509
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Speaker 1: Steve Sarkejan in there. And my point is the impression

510
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 1: they have of Texas a little bit different. Maybe even

511
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Speaker 1: the impression they have of Texas A and m's a

512
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 1: little bit different. But now every national contender views Texas

513
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Speaker 1: the same way they've been viewing Florida. We've talked about

514
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Speaker 1: this at nauseum of Florida, Like the Big three in

515
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 1: Florida have long since come to the realization that Alabama's

516
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 1: going to live down here, Clemson, Ohio State, all the

517
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 1: big boys are going to live down here, and we're

518
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Speaker 1: just gonna have to beat them. They're not going away.

519
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 1: No one thought that about Texas until recently, but now

520
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 1: they think it about Texas. Like a while ago, Saban

521
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 1: made Texas a priority. Obviously Urban Meyer and now Ryan

522
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 1: Day they've made Texas a priority, but Mario Christobaul Dabo's swiney.

523
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 1: They're all making Texas a priority because they're viewing it

524
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Speaker 1: the same way they view Florida. Florida has not had

525
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Speaker 1: its act together from a Big three perspective so long

526
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Speaker 1: that it made the end state crop of talent vulnerable.

527
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Speaker 1: And now you look a little bit out west and

528
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Speaker 1: the same dynamics in play at Texas. The major programs

529
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 1: have not taken care of business for a long enough

530
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Speaker 1: period of time collectively to where all of a sudden,

531
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Speaker 1: the big boys look out there and say, is that

532
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: a big fat neon sign that reads open for business

533
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: in Texas. Let's go out there. It's open for recruiting business.

534
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 1: Let's go out there. And they have and they're having

535
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Speaker 1: great results. Now they could live with Bama and Ohio

536
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 1: State coming into Texas and taking the occasional Tony Brown

537
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: or you know, taking the occasional five star talent, they

538
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Speaker 1: can't live with Oregon do that. And Oregon just did it.

539
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 1: And a little words of the wise, I don't think

540
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Speaker 1: Oregon's done in the state of Texas this cycle. So

541
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Speaker 1: you can lips of stat and will to be continued

542
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 1: on that, But there is no rapport like there used

543
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,199
Speaker 1: to be. It's what I'm saying, and this is where

544
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 1: a lot of the scouts in and around, especially in

545
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: East Texas, what they say when you talk to them

546
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 1: is they'll say, there used to be some things in

547
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 1: the way most notably Texas is a big state, and

548
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 1: so it's just much easier as it is anywhere to

549
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 1: stay closer to home. Well, here's what NIL is doing

550
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 1: in Texas and elsewhere, but especially Texas. If you live

551
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 1: in Houston, if you live in Dallas, if you live

552
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 1: in Waco, if you live in Tyler, to get a

553
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: little bit smaller geographically, it used to be that it

554
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 1: was a nightmare. If you're going to go play at Oregon.

555
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,919
Speaker 1: Do you know what travel expenses are for parents and

556
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 1: cousins and aunts and uncles to go see you play

557
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 1: in Oregon? Well, what they used to be versus what

558
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 1: it's going to look like with NIL on the table

559
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: a little bit different. So you've removed yet another major hurdle,

560
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, those boundaries, those fences that

561
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: used to be around the state of Texas from a

562
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:01,120
Speaker 1: recruiting standpoint, they're just not there anymore. And what has

563
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 1: to happen, Well, what has to happen is, first off,

564
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 1: you got to accept the reality check. For instance, with

565
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 1: Kelvin Banks, Texas, their staff was confident in landing him,

566
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Speaker 1: and this is a five star offensive tackle. If you're

567
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 1: unfamiliar that committed to Oregon just in the last week,

568
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,919
Speaker 1: and they were confident in Austin. Well, they didn't land him.

569
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 1: But not only did they not land him, they didn't

570
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,719
Speaker 1: finish top two apparently for him. So one recruit does

571
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 1: not make or break a class. But my point is there,

572
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: I think Sark and his staff are realizing it's going

573
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 1: to take us a little bit longer. The treadmill is

574
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: going a little bit faster than we thought it was

575
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: going when we hopped on it. So, you know, we

576
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: skinned our chin there. But that's okay. We have the

577
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: ability to do it here. It's just not going to

578
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: blow up overnight like we hoped it would. Well, that's okay.

579
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 1: I mean, day by day, brick by brick, they can

580
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: build a winning product in a winning culture. There. They're

581
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: still in it for a lot of big names. This

582
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: is not a rain on the parade of Texas recruiting

583
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 1: show by any stretch. I think the class will be fine.

584
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: A and M same way, class will be fine. In

585
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 1: a lot of ways. A and M's recruiting has improved

586
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 1: marginally year over year or incremental. The point is, it's

587
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: a new ball game in Texas, and so whereas once

588
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 1: you used to look out there and think in the

589
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: mac Brown days. All right, let's wait for them to

590
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: pick the players they want, and then we'll see if

591
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: there's anyone left over we want to go try to

592
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: get out of Fort Worth or out of Brownsville. That's

593
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 1: not the way it is anymore. The game of recruiting

594
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 1: has changed in Texas. All right, let's head just a

595
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 1: little bit east. I tend I think is what we

596
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: would hop on to do this. Let's talk about LSU

597
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: and Florida. I'm big on interstates, know all the interstates.

598
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: So LSU and Florida this year play they play every year.

599
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: That's no breaking news. The game's going to be important.

600
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,199
Speaker 1: It's a rivalry, so that's not breaking news either. But

601
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 1: every now and then one of these rivalry games that

602
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 1: does not need any extra sauce, they don't need any

603
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 1: extra storylines. Sometimes we'll get a little extra sauce on

604
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: it anyway, and LSU Florida just a little bit extra sauce.

605
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: This year. I think this game means a little bit

606
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: more than just, oh, I don't know, one game in

607
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: the division or conference standings in the SEC. I call

608
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: them game pluses because of these signs. Magnificance level is

609
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: that of a normal game, and then there's a little

610
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: bit of plus. So this is a game plus situation

611
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: this year. I'm going to ask you a question. Whether

612
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,479
Speaker 1: you're watching live and if you are, we appreciate it

613
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: like the video, by the way, or whether you're watching

614
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 1: the replay still like the video. If you will, I

615
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 1: want you to answer the question I'm about to ask

616
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 1: in a second or less. I'm going to ask you

617
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: two questions. Okay, so just play along with me. Are

618
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: you confident in the future of LSU football? All right?

619
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Speaker 1: Remember that answer? Second question, Are you confident in the

620
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 1: future of Florida football? Now record both answers. I think

621
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: we got a lot of nose there, or at the

622
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: very least, we got a lot of crooked neck. And

623
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,959
Speaker 1: then the buzzer sounded and you didn't get it in

624
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: within a second. If we remove LSU of Florida fans

625
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: from the equation and we just talk about, as we

626
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: call them again, agnostic fans. You don't have a rooting

627
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: interest to the way, but you watch the games cause

628
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: these are big programs. I think we got a lot

629
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: of nose for varying reasons. Maybe you were turned off

630
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: by the way Florida ended their year last year, same

631
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: way with LSU throughout the entire season, and maybe some

632
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: of the off the field rumors have you a little

633
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: bit concerned. Whatever the case may be. LSU and Florida

634
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: fans are not stupid. You look at it and you say, oh,

635
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: look at them, man, they don't even see it. You know,

636
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: I'm a Tennessee fan or I'm an Arkansas fan. I

637
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: can look at those programs and I can tell choppy

638
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: waters ahead. Maybe maybe not. LSU and Florida fans. They're

639
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: not dumb. It's not like they can't see the past. Okay.

640
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: LSU fans look back at twenty twenty and they were

641
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: more than a little aggravated and how things played out.

642
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: Florida fans, you think they were happy with the way

643
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: twenty twenty ended. They see it just like you and

644
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: I do. The difference is they believe in their heart

645
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: of hearts that the past is the past and the

646
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: worst is in the rearview mirror. And the only difference

647
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: between the pessimist and the LSU and Florida fan on

648
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: average is the pessimist is going to look and say,

649
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: you're a little bit too close. You're loving your program

650
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: to death, and you don't get what history tells you.

651
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: History tells us at least one of y'all is going

652
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: to be wrong. Maybe both fan bases are going to

653
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: be wrong, but certainly it's not just going to magically

654
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: turn around for both of you. Well, that's why we

655
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: play the games. Is the point doesn't do a whole

656
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: lot of good to talk about it this year. But

657
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: the reason I wanted to circle this game is cause

658
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: it's really hard for me to envision both fan bases

659
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,719
Speaker 1: being right. So I don't know who it is it's

660
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: going to be wrong. I think someone's going to be wrong.

661
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: So you couldn't drop this game into a better spot again.

662
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: They play it every year, but I want you to

663
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: think about the ramifications this year. Think about the uncertainty

664
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: outside of those programs, and in some cases inside the programs.

665
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: Think about the redemption that could happen for one of

666
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: these programs using this game as a springboard in all likelihood,

667
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: But I want you to think about where this falls too.

668
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: Week seven in and of itself is going to be

669
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: a dynamite week in the SEC. It is October sixteenth,

670
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: This game's going to be what everything else revolves around.

671
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: Florida at LSU, but it headlines I think the most

672
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: underrated week in the SEC. You've got Bama at Mississippi

673
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: State and you may think big deal. Well, Bama's coming

674
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,719
Speaker 1: off the A and M game. Mississippi State's off, so

675
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: that gets a little interesting. You've got Kentucky at Georgia,

676
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: big schedule, dynamic situation. They're Georgia coming off the Auburn game,

677
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: Ole miss and Lane Kiffin return to Tennessee. I don't

678
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: think I need to add anything more there. And also

679
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: Texas A and M. Right after playing Alabama, they go

680
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: play Missouri on the road. So there are a lot

681
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: of games that aren't gonna grab the national spotlight that

682
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: are going to be really really intriguing that week in

683
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: and of themselves. But then you got this game, in

684
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: all likelihood parked at three thirty in the afternoon on

685
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: CBS Eastern Time, Florida at LSU for LSU. Where will

686
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: they be at that point, because that's all this is about.

687
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,239
Speaker 1: If they're both undefeated, that's just wonderful, that's great, and

688
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: no one's season is getting wrecked. Is that likely? I

689
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: don't think it's likely. It's possible, it's not likely for LSU.

690
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: You know, they open against UCLA, they go to Mississippi State.

691
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: A couple of weeks later, they've also got Auburn in

692
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: Death Valley and they go to Kentucky. The reason I

693
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: list those games is because those are the games they

694
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: will either be a single digit or a very small

695
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: double digit favored in. You would call them losable games. Technically,

696
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: every game's losible. Those are more losable than the other games.

697
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: So here's where LSU is at this point. They're either

698
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: blemished or they have started to steamroll teams, and they

699
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,479
Speaker 1: are firmly in the college football playoff conversation. Now, if

700
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: they're blemished, then this game becomes back against the wall,

701
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: wounded animal mode. We gotta win it because we know

702
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: that we've still got to play Alabama. So we want

703
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: that Bama game to mean something, and we cannot be

704
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: playing Bama already with two conference losses. But if they're

705
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: undefeated when Florida comes in there, that means quarterback has

706
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: worked itself out. That means the chemistry in the locker

707
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: room has worked itself out. That means both of these

708
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: coordinator hires have been home runs and all of a sudden,

709
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: they're probably favored at that point significantly over Florida. And

710
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: you're asking yourself, then, if LSU gets over this last

711
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: really big hurdle, are we going to see undefeated LSU

712
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: and undefeated Florida or undefeated Alabama in a couple weeks

713
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: in Tuscal loose. That's the talk that would start to happen. If, however,

714
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: they do have a loss, then it's all of a

715
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: sudden do or die mode. That's how quickly that game

716
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: can hinge. But for Florida, it's a little bit different

717
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,479
Speaker 1: road than it is for ls U. LSU will be favored,

718
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: I believe in every game up until they play Florida.

719
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: Florida will not be favored in every game before they

720
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: play LSU, and the reason is because Alabama goes into

721
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: Florida in Week three, so they get Bama in there

722
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: in week three. I don't think that's the game that's

723
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: gonna tell us the most about Florida leading up to

724
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: this LSU game though, because they're gonna be a two

725
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: touchdown underdog at home against Alabama. You lose that game,

726
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: it's not the end of the world now, if they

727
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: win it, it's an entirely different video. So let's just

728
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: assume for a second the odds the chalk holds, and

729
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: Alabama finds a way to win at Florida. Well, if

730
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: that happens, okay, big deal. Bama's gonna beat a lot

731
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: of really good teams. It's the games versus Tennessee and

732
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: at Kentucky for Florida that will really tell the tale

733
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: as to how much this game's gonna mean. And I

734
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: don't mention the other games they play Florida Atlantic in

735
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: South Florida. If they lose those games, it's also an

736
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: entirely different video. They lose either one of those, it's

737
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: outright catastrophe down there. But with the Tennessee game and

738
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: the Kentucky game, you see the schedule here if you're

739
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: watching on YouTube, Florida will be between a fourteen and

740
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: a twenty twenty one point favorite in both of those games,

741
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: and how they perform there, maybe coming off a loss

742
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 1: against Alabama tells you everything you need to know this year,

743
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: because if they trip up against one of those, then

744
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: we've got a sure fire situation because they're already a

745
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 1: two loss team minimum going into LSU where they will

746
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: be an underdog and then could be a three loss

747
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: team by the time they played Georgia minimum. So obviously

748
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: things have gone off the rails that that happens. But

749
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: if they lose to Alabama, but then they pick things

750
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: up and they beat Tennessee, they beat Kentucky, beat Vanderbilt Watson,

751
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 1: you go into LSU, you're a one loss team and

752
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: you've got a very manageable situation here. You couldn't ask

753
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: for anything more. And like we said last week, if

754
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 1: Florida finds a way to split the Obama and LSU

755
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: games and they take care of business the rest of

756
00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: the way, then you see what lies ahead on October thirtieth.

757
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 1: It would mean the East is still on the line

758
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,439
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. That's what this LSU game's probably gonna mean

759
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: for Florida. Number one, it means a lot in and

760
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: of itself because it's a big rivalry game. But number two,

761
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: in all likelihood, we're finding out if the East will

762
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: indeed be on the line or if Georgia has some

763
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: cushion already built in before they even get on the

764
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: bus and show up down there. So this is fun

765
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: because some of these games just carry a story in

766
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: and of themselves. But then there are other times where

767
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: you have all these extra contributing factors of what you're

768
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 1: saying or what you're thinking about kaches or teams. What

769
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 1: happened last year? You remember this game last year? I

770
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: wasn't even gonna mention this. And then I was out

771
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: in the whatever we're calling that area out there the

772
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: office with Colin before the show and he said, Oh,

773
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,720
Speaker 1: we're talking about the shoe game tonight. Here's how involved

774
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: this game is this year. I didn't even think about

775
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: the shoe throw last year. That's how deep this one goes.

776
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: This year, this shoe throw was like ninth on the

777
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: list of prioritization of what I wanted to talk about.

778
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: So you got the shoes and you got everything else.

779
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: It's going to be a really good game this year. Wait,

780
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 1: that is week seven. If you want to go, check

781
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: your helmet grid schedule week seven, because even outside of

782
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: Florida LSU, there's a whole lot to like, and there

783
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: are games that are not gonna be on anyone's preseason

784
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: top ten radar of mussy games of the year, but

785
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 1: that Week seven, just watch out because that could be

786
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: one that upends some things in the SEC. All right, Lastly,

787
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: I wanted to hit something that's been a challenge for us.

788
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: We have talked about nil. A lot of people have

789
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: talked about nil. The big challenge that I've talked about

790
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 1: on Late Kick is we have to find a way

791
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: to talk about NIL that's interesting to you because it's

792
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: very much a hit or miss thing. You don't care

793
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: just about raw numbers of how much money kids are

794
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: getting to do this or that, and you don't really

795
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: care about the ancillary sports media. What's this going to

796
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: do to the future of the sport deal? But there

797
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: is something I think you will care about. I think

798
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: I found it, so let's discuss it. I did a

799
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: whole lot of radio hits this week from coast to coast,

800
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: and I got asked a lot about NIL, and the

801
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: context was normally just as I said, what is this

802
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: going to do to college football? What does it mean

803
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: now that kids are getting paid? This guy makes this much,

804
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: Miami's paying kids that much? No, no, no, no, no, I

805
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: think that matters now. Five years from now is what

806
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: I want to talk about. Let's just say twenty twenty

807
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: five four years now, in twenty twenty five. I think

808
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: a lot of things that matter to people in the

809
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: immediacy are not going to matter. Perfect example, right now,

810
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: it is news anytime we get a dollar figure for

811
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: Spencer Rattler signing with Raising Canes, well, right now, that matters.

812
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: But that's because it's new down the road. I don't

813
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: think it'll matter. The endorsement deal, just as a concept,

814
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: is a very much novelty aspect right now. There's a

815
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 1: lot of novelty to it. And because there's a lot

816
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: of novelty to how much money a kids getting paid

817
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: to endorse fill in the blank product, it really grabs attention.

818
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: It's like growing up in the South. I grew up

819
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: in west central Georgia. The first time a kid sees

820
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: snow in the South, it's a life changing experience. And

821
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: that's kind of the same novelty aspect, the same newness

822
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: that we have all over nil Right now, Oh my goodness,

823
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: we just got half a foot of snow in Harris County, Georgia.

824
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, there's Boneck's Po's and with a bottle

825
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: of my Liot sweet tea. I'm being told Malachi more

826
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: in Alabama. He's also posing with a bottle of my

827
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: little sweet tea. Well, you're not gonna get excited. It's

828
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: not gonna get clicks five years from now, So that

829
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: is not the long term impact of the way you're

830
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: gonna watch college football and view nil. But I got

831
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: a really good question in the Late Kick Inbox the

832
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: other day for the Late Kick Extra podcast, but I

833
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: thought it belonged on the live show, so I wanted

834
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: to read it. Well, I'm gonna paraphrase. It was from Thomas,

835
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: frequent contributor to the show. He said, is nil going

836
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: to change the way college football is covered? Now you

837
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: hear that, and your instinct may be to dismiss it. Oh,

838
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 1: that's just another generic question. But no, it's not if

839
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: you really think about it for a second, because it

840
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: doesn't just have to do with CBS or ABC or

841
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: Fox or ESPN. It has to do with you. It

842
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: has to do with me, because it's not just how

843
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: it's covered. I think the proper way to ask this question,

844
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: the way we're going to talk about it, is how

845
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: is college football going to be viewed? I am almost

846
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: legally blind. My contacts are thicker than this life, and

847
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: so when I go to the optometrist, they have to

848
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 1: flip through a number of those, you know, special lenses

849
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: for me to read O QP are what's hard for me.

850
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: But the different lenses, that's the whole point. The lens

851
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 1: is how I view the letters on the screen. Your lens.

852
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: It's beautiful thing about college football and fandom. We all

853
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Speaker 1: get to build our own lens. The way you view

854
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Speaker 1: the sport may be different than the way I view

855
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Speaker 1: the sport. I may be fascinated by the construction of stadiums.

856
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Speaker 1: You couldn't care less what the stadiums are called. All

857
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Speaker 1: you care about is is the game. Other people care

858
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Speaker 1: about the color of the uniforms. You don't care your colorblind. Well,

859
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Speaker 1: it's your lens. That's fine. But there is a collective

860
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Speaker 1: lens that I think's about to change in college football,

861
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: and that's the way we collectively view college football players

862
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Speaker 1: and talk about college football players. It's not going to

863
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Speaker 1: happen overnight in the media world. I think it's very

864
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Speaker 1: much going to be a follow the leader mentality. So

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Speaker 1: here's what I mean, and here's what Thomas is talking about.

866
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Speaker 1: Amateurism is going away. I mean, the concept of amateurism

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Speaker 1: was you're playing for love, of the jersey you're playing

868
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Speaker 1: for the school. You'll make money at the next level

869
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Speaker 1: in the pros, but college football you very much play

870
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Speaker 1: because of you, know, your passion and your drive and

871
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Speaker 1: your desire and your grit. Well, money is entered the equation.

872
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Speaker 1: Now doesn't have to ruin the sport for you. Changes

873
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Speaker 1: your lens, but it doesn't have to ruin the sport

874
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Speaker 1: for you. But what Thomas is saying is you can't

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Speaker 1: just change that variable but keep everything else the same.

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Speaker 1: And he's right. Even if he didn't mean that, I'm

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Speaker 1: putting words in this mouth now, he's right. So forget

878
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Speaker 1: about all the networks for a second. Just you at

879
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Speaker 1: home on your couch or your thirty yard line season

880
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Speaker 1: tickets in Austin, Texas or Ann Arbor, Michigan. How are

881
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Speaker 1: you going to view players potentially differently? I think it's

882
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Speaker 1: gonna happen. So now, as I was about to say,

883
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Speaker 1: from the media side of things, I do not think

884
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, Spencer Rattler and the Oklahoma Sooners

885
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Speaker 1: players who have signed endorsement deals are going to be

886
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Speaker 1: treated no different than players from the Dallas Cowboys. I

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Speaker 1: don't think college players are going to be treated like

888
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Speaker 1: pros overnight. But the dynamic has changed. The dynamic with

889
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Speaker 1: money in the equation is you do not view those

890
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Speaker 1: players as amateurs anymore. I think a lot of people

891
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Speaker 1: are going to view them a lot more like pro players. Now,

892
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Speaker 1: what does that really mean? What I think it means

893
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Speaker 1: is it changes how willing you are to criticize a

894
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Speaker 1: nineteen year old kid publicly, and from a media standpoint,

895
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Speaker 1: I think it changes what is and isn't off limits.

896
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Speaker 1: There used to be it's imaginary, but there has been

897
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Speaker 1: for a long time this veil, this protective veil of amateurism,

898
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Speaker 1: and the things that you would say about a guy

899
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Speaker 1: on Sunday with no remorse, you would never say about

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Speaker 1: a kid on Saturday. Money's in the equation Now. I

901
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Speaker 1: think a lot of people are going to erode that

902
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,760
Speaker 1: veil very quickly and say they're no different. Ones younger

903
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Speaker 1: than the other, but they're really no different. And so

904
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Speaker 1: if you don't believe that, I just want toss a

905
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Speaker 1: few theoreticals at you. Let's say the honeymoon period ends

906
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Speaker 1: because right now no one's played a game, so everyone's

907
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Speaker 1: signing for X amount of dollars. It's all well and good,

908
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Speaker 1: but you haven't seen anyone blow a game yet. So

909
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: what happens. Let's say your star tailback is on the

910
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Speaker 1: hook for six hundred thousand dollars worth of endorsements, and

911
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Speaker 1: he puts the ball in the carpet twice inside the

912
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Speaker 1: ten yard line, and you guys lose twenty six to

913
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Speaker 1: twenty four Saturday. How are you talking about him? You

914
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Speaker 1: talking about it in the exact same way as if

915
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Speaker 1: you were playing for that scholarship. I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of you are. And I'm

917
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Speaker 1: talking about us in our world. I'm talking about us

918
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Speaker 1: as fans because I get to cross over both sides

919
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Speaker 1: of the fence here in our world as fans. Not overnight,

920
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: but eventually, I think things are gonna change. Also, I'll

921
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Speaker 1: tell you another thing that I think is gonna bear

922
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Speaker 1: a lot of watching. How did kids get talked about

923
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Speaker 1: from an injury standpoint in the pros? The injury list

924
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 1: coming out on Tuesday or Wednesdays, everything in college you

925
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 1: don't even get one half the time. Guys don't even

926
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Speaker 1: suit up on Saturday, and you didn't even know about it.

927
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Speaker 1: Gamblers really love that. By the way, and so what

928
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Speaker 1: happens all of a sudden when you've heard practice reports

929
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Speaker 1: that the guy's questionable and then he's in street clothes Saturday.

930
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: Now it used to be oh, man, I wish he

931
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Speaker 1: was playing, but oh well, I guess he's hurt. Well

932
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Speaker 1: what happens, you know, when he's making one hundred and

933
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Speaker 1: ten k and he can make all that money but

934
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Speaker 1: can't suit up to play. Does the tenor of your

935
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Speaker 1: voice and your thought change? Perhaps also, And here's where

936
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Speaker 1: it really is going to rub me the wrong way,

937
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Speaker 1: because I've already had a problem with this. It's a

938
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Speaker 1: whole sidebar, it's a whole soapbox from me. We are

939
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Speaker 1: in preview magazine season now, we are rapidly approaching media

940
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Speaker 1: days next week, already in Hoover for SEC media Days,

941
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: acc Big ten. It's all coming up. In all their

942
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: infinite wisdom, they put all the media days at the

943
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Speaker 1: same time, so the cloning efforts have not worked around here,

944
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Speaker 1: so I can't go to all of them. But be

945
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Speaker 1: that as it may. We're in prediction season. You look

946
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: everywhere you see a list. We hadn't put any out

947
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: because I don't like them all that much. But everyone's

948
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: got a list, and everyone's got rankings, and everyone's got

949
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Speaker 1: pre season this and that, YadA YadA YadA. Now there's

950
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that inherently. But the problem I've always

951
00:43:55,360 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: had is there's this huge pre season prediction apparatus and

952
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,280
Speaker 1: it doesn't change reality. Like if I take the nineteenth

953
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Speaker 1: best quarterback in the country and I rank him number

954
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Speaker 1: two and he performs at the nineteenth quarterback level as

955
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Speaker 1: he should given his ability level, I get to call

956
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Speaker 1: him overrated, and I get to say he choked, and

957
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: I get to say he fell a well short of expectation. Well,

958
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: the kid was always the nineteenth best quarterback. Just because

959
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 1: I said he was number two didn't make him capable

960
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: of anything more. But the entire prediction apparatus operates that way.

961
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Speaker 1: None of them ever look back and say, I guess

962
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: my prediction kind of sucked. They look at the person

963
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Speaker 1: or the team that didn't follow through and fulfill their prediction,

964
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Speaker 1: and they say they drop the ball. What if your

965
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 1: prediction was terrible? My point being now a new excuse

966
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Speaker 1: has entered the equation. Not only do you get to

967
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Speaker 1: say about number nineteen quarterback over here, oh he choked

968
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Speaker 1: or Oh, he's just not focused enough. Now I get

969
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: to blame nil on it. Now I get to say,

970
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: you know, if he was worried half as much about

971
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: fifteen or twenty minutes extra with his receivers at the

972
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Speaker 1: end of pres as he was locking down that advertising

973
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 1: deal with that barbecue joint, maybe he wouldn't be in

974
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: this situation. You mark my words. You don't have to

975
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: wait five years for that. That's coming this year. Some

976
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Speaker 1: kids are going to get criticized this year, probably fifteen

977
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Speaker 1: of them for not being focused. And the lack of

978
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Speaker 1: focus is going to be attributed to too much worrying

979
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Speaker 1: about money off the field. Now, maybe in some cases

980
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 1: it's true. I'm just saying a sports writer in Des Moines,

981
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Speaker 1: Iowa does not possess the capability to psychologically profile each

982
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Speaker 1: and every one of those kids. But it's coming. So

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Speaker 1: I think in short, even though this has been like

984
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Speaker 1: ten minutes long, I think in short slash long, this

985
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: is going to start changing the way not only media

986
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: talk about in cover college football. I think it's going

987
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: to change the way we talk about it. Now. You

988
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 1: can before it or against it. I'm just telling you,

989
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: I think that's the way it is Bruce Hornsby once

990
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: said it, and boy he didn't know how right he was.

991
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993
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Speaker 1: for college football season to get here for Colin, for

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