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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with i R Radio. We're back for Bachelor in Paradise Finale,

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Speaker 1: Part two. This is half reunion show and half down

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Speaker 1: at the play at Escondida Beach with the engagements. So

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Speaker 1: we start off this episode with the cast coming together

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Speaker 1: to relive some moments. We only have those two couples

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Speaker 1: So we're getting flashbacks to the girls game live reactions.

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Speaker 1: In The first couple that we see kind of go

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Speaker 1: head to head live on stage is Sane and Logan.

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Speaker 1: And how did you feel like that conversation went? Hey

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Speaker 1: because we forgot it there together. It was so long ago.

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Speaker 1: I really forgot there together. That's how I felt. Yeah, Um,

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Speaker 1: so I didn't really care about this confrontation, but I

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Speaker 1: do think that uh Logan's confrontation with Kate was kind

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Speaker 1: of funny once she admitted her wrongs and said that

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Speaker 1: she shouldn't have talked to him like that. That did

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Speaker 1: see the meeting and such, but then he really went

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Speaker 1: out and defended himself. He was like, I'm really proud

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Speaker 1: of my career. I moved out here to l a

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Speaker 1: is started from scratch, and I like, how far I've come? Right? Now,

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Speaker 1: here's the deal. Actually, if anybody's lived in l A

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Speaker 1: for more than three years, I give him respect because

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Speaker 1: that city is the most expensive city in the world

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Speaker 1: out than New York City, other than San Francisco. Yeah

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Speaker 1: fair enough, okay, But if you figured out a way

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Speaker 1: to like make it work, yeah, respect. I couldn't do it.

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Speaker 1: That's why I never moved there. I stayed in Denver

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Speaker 1: and so and and at the same time, there's a

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Speaker 1: beautiful story I want to share with you for a second.

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Speaker 1: Can I share it with you? Sure? Of course. One

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Speaker 1: of my parents or one of my parents, one of

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Speaker 1: my parents actually good friends and my best friends parents.

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Speaker 1: One night they set me down when I was in

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Speaker 1: middle school. I never forget it. They're like, don't move

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Speaker 1: to l A. They're like, they told me their love story.

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Speaker 1: I asked them, like, hey, how do you guys meet

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Speaker 1: you know whatever, and they're like, uh, you know what

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Speaker 1: they said, you know, the best season of our life

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Speaker 1: was the season that set us up for everything. And

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Speaker 1: they're very wealthy. I mean, they've done very well for themselves.

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Speaker 1: Now they've they've bought and sold their own businesses twice,

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Speaker 1: and they said the first five years of our marriage,

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Speaker 1: we lived in an apartment that was a studio apartment

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Speaker 1: that didn't have room for us to really even both

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Speaker 1: move around in it. Our bed was in our living room,

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Speaker 1: we had a small little kitchen. We didn't have any

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Speaker 1: money to buy anything. And it brought us stronger because

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Speaker 1: our love is what pushed us through and our support

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Speaker 1: of each other. And I've kept that with me ever

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Speaker 1: since then. And this is why this whole Kate conversation.

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Speaker 1: I know she's a little older, uh, and so there's yeah,

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Speaker 1: but like it's bugged me because it's like, get off

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Speaker 1: his back. I think he's doing fine. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how what his net worth is. Maybe he's the grandchild

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Speaker 1: of the Rockefellers and he's just not telling anybody and

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Speaker 1: kind of like living his dream and doing his thing.

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Speaker 1: And once you guys get married, you're gonna find out

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Speaker 1: that this dudes loaded or maybe he's not. Maybe he's not.

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Speaker 1: And if you love my parents were the same, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean look at your parents right, Like they had

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Speaker 1: to go through med school together. Like my dad didn't

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Speaker 1: even he wasn't even able to get into med school

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Speaker 1: when they got together. He had to like go take

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Speaker 1: stuff in order to be like eligible for you know,

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Speaker 1: med school. And my dad graduated so much later than

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Speaker 1: most other kids, you know, like he didn't become a

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Speaker 1: So more of the story, money is not the driving

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Speaker 1: force to love. This couple just didn't work. But I

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Speaker 1: never liked those conversations because I felt like it put

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Speaker 1: him in a weird spot. And I also just want

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Speaker 1: to tell her, Hey, it ain't that important. Are gonna

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Speaker 1: be fine. Love conquers all. But that's how we that's

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Speaker 1: how we get introduced to this episode. The next scene,

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Speaker 1: I'm forgetting actually what happened in the next scene, Jill

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Speaker 1: in Tarzan Jacob. They basically say, I'd like to give

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Speaker 1: but like just between us, basically, he was he kind

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Speaker 1: So that's where he tried to make it official right

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Speaker 1: there on that Bachelor for Now my stage, and I

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Speaker 1: think I could say it now. He's coming to Rhode

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Speaker 1: and Jacob at Audrey's. I'm sure he'll pick her up

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Speaker 1: a number of times during that event. Yes, that's their thing.

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Speaker 1: Do you see this couple working? Yeah, but it's just

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Speaker 1: fun for now. Okay, I actually see it working because

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Speaker 1: I got to meet Jill at Audrey's. The best coffee shop,

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Speaker 1: UM east of Generous, east of the Mississippi, east of

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Speaker 1: the Mississippy, UM, incredible spot, a lot of fun, and

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Speaker 1: I was like, this girl has a lot of depth.

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Speaker 1: We got to talk to Jacob on the podcast. He

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Speaker 1: obviously has a lot of depth. I see it working.

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Speaker 1: I would be disappointed if they break up. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: I think they'll always be friends, Like they'll always bust

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Speaker 1: each other's chops, you know. Well keep us updated. I

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Speaker 1: feel like the Outrey's Coffee Shop is going to bring

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Speaker 1: us a ton of insight into this relationship. Okay, then

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Speaker 1: we get into the heaviness. Uh. It kind of was

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Speaker 1: glossed over during the reunion. Yeah yeah, I felt like

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Speaker 1: there was more to it, like a hot seat kind

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Speaker 1: people crying, but Eliza, Rodney and Justin's life love triangle

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Speaker 1: to Rodney and he was like, no, I don't want

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Speaker 1: not make it a grand moment. What was the strangeist

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Speaker 1: Justin's sitting there making his awesome Justin expressions and he

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Speaker 1: didn't speak once during the airing of the reunion. Neither

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Speaker 1: did Andrew. Yeah that is weird. But why do you

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Speaker 1: think Rodney's not still into her? Do you think he

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Speaker 1: found somebody else? No? I think like, after watching it back,

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Speaker 1: I just feel like Rodney, he deserves the world, not

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Speaker 1: obviously didn't like him enough. She obviously didn't like him enough. Yes,

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Speaker 1: there's extraction. I would never I say stuff like this.

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Speaker 1: It's like, okay, but Jared didn't like you enough for

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Speaker 1: But I don't think Rodney is wanting that moment now.

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Speaker 1: Jared picked other people in front of me multiple times,

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Speaker 1: not yet, give him, give them another shot on the beach.

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Speaker 1: She's the one. I just don't think she's the one

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Speaker 1: And I think he's fine, and he's probably realizing he's fine,

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Speaker 1: call me a sucker for romance. I actually think he

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Speaker 1: the the suck that was Eliza. Yeah, well the suck

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Speaker 1: imagine the suction that was her pull on him. Yeah

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Speaker 1: that makes sense. Okay, that that clears that up. I'm

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Speaker 1: so articulate. Guys, you're doing great. Tyler and Brittany shocker,

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Speaker 1: like so much left to the imagination. You think that

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Speaker 1: definitely holding something back more she doesn't want to make

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Speaker 1: that he went way too fast. They said, I mean,

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Speaker 1: kind of on your own, like, yeah, sure, a check

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Speaker 1: to ask Bertnany. Michael and Danielle then come out together

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Speaker 1: with some very exciting news. The very exciting news is

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Speaker 1: she's very solidly based in Nashville, you know, but when

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Speaker 1: saying I'm surprised. I'm just saying that, like, I feel

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Speaker 1: this is how serious they are, that she's moving to

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Speaker 1: Intel is like what you know from Michael. Well. Now

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Speaker 1: we can say that they're both at Wells and Sarah's

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Speaker 1: Like there is a lot there, there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: Have a fantastic Thanksgiving. Yeah, I forgot that. That's happening soon,

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Speaker 1: isn't it. Yes, Be warm and merry and cozy, watch

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Speaker 1: some good football, Hug a lot of family. Ashley. What's

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Speaker 1: your favorite Thanksgiving food? Mine is ham shocker. I love

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Speaker 1: a good Ham, Love a good Ham. All right, that's

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