WEBVTT - Best Of Dear Chelsea: Facetiming on Myspace

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, Catherine, Oh Hi Chelsea, Oh hello, what's up? Greetings

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<v Speaker 1>from a whistler.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very white there, because a white white winter wonderland.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually it's not really a winter wonderland. We've had kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a low snow season. Although I am heading out today,

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<v Speaker 1>leaving for a week, and now they're expecting about a

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<v Speaker 1>foot of snow. So hopefully when I return will be

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<v Speaker 1>in better shape. Because you know, I have to film

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<v Speaker 1>my ski video. Oh right, your birthday a ski video.

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<v Speaker 1>So we were going to do it last week because

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<v Speaker 1>I had my social media team come up for a

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<v Speaker 1>little sabbatical. They came up here and where I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh great, I said to Ricardo and Mina, who run

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<v Speaker 1>the company. It's called Crispy Chicken. That's what attracted me too.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still trying to get them to change the name

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<v Speaker 1>to Krispy Chicken Nuggets, but they're not really biting on

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<v Speaker 1>that one. Anyway, I had them come up. The three

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<v Speaker 1>of them came up and we were going to shoot

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<v Speaker 1>my video and I was like, how proficient are you

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<v Speaker 1>guys on snowboards? Because I will need your help. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got to step it up this year. We need

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<v Speaker 1>a drone. I need a different backdrop. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>ski through the trees. So we're trying to like coordinate

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<v Speaker 1>all this, and I said, how proficient are you and

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, well, you know, we're not advanced or anything,

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<v Speaker 1>but we can both, you know, film you on snowboards.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would like to say that, No they could not.

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<v Speaker 1>I took them out skiing. Thank god, I did not

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<v Speaker 1>try to film this with them. They I mean, Mina

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<v Speaker 1>is a little bit better. But I was like, Ricardo,

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<v Speaker 1>how often do you snowboard? He's like once a year.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, do you understand what we're dealing with here?

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<v Speaker 1>Someone's skiing backwards and filming me or snowboarding through the

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<v Speaker 1>tree treat Well, I mean, I don't know how realistic

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to be. So we'll see if I even

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<v Speaker 1>conquer that, because we're going to need a few camera men.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm in Whistler, so there's tons of people here

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<v Speaker 1>that can film skiing for years obviously, you know, so

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<v Speaker 1>I just have to find the right people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I, by the way, love Ricardo and Mina. They're fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're really really awesome, And we had a great time.

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<v Speaker 1>We went to Zip lining we went to the bah. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I dropped them off. I was like their mama bear.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like I was shuttling my kids around from carpool,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I would drop them off at school and

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<v Speaker 1>they picked them up three hours later. I'm like, bye, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I dropped them off at the grocery store so

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<v Speaker 1>they could get all the Canadian snacks to bring back,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I'd pick them up and then they'd get

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<v Speaker 1>in the car and it just would reek of weed.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what is that smell? Anyway? So that's been

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<v Speaker 1>happening up here. Just I love having people shuttle in

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<v Speaker 1>and out of my little my ski Shelle, It's so

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<v Speaker 1>fun that I know, Chelsea.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you settle a marital argument for me? Really good?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I would love to.

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<v Speaker 2>So our bedroom we're having some work done on the

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<v Speaker 2>garage was just right near our bedroom.

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<v Speaker 1>And are you turning it into what are you turning

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<v Speaker 1>into Brad's man cave?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, in addition to podcasting where it happens to be

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<v Speaker 2>a drummer and musicians, so we're turning it into his

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<v Speaker 2>music studio.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh music studio. Okay, that's bad than a man cave, Brad.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, indeed, he can be a lot louder in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, I just want to go out and say that

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<v Speaker 1>my whole life is a man cave. For I want

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<v Speaker 1>to do is being my bed, smoking weed and watching TV.

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<v Speaker 1>So I may as well have a man cave as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>You just need a lazy boy, that's all you need

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<v Speaker 2>in there. But so, it smelled weirdly like pine in

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<v Speaker 2>our bedroom for the last couple of weeks, and we

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<v Speaker 2>can't figure out why. But I think it kind of

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<v Speaker 2>smells like weed. And in my opinion, weed smells a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit like pine needles. But my loving husband thinks

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<v Speaker 2>that that is absolutely ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 3>It's skunky. Weed is skunky. That's why they call it

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<v Speaker 3>skunky weed.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Well, not all weed is skunk. I mean there's

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<v Speaker 1>a weed that's not skunky. So I think that you're right, Catherine,

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<v Speaker 1>as usual that there can be a pine smell. For sure,

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<v Speaker 1>when I walk into my house, it is an overwhelming

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<v Speaker 1>smell of cannabis. My friend's daughter came over the other

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<v Speaker 1>day and she goes, she's seven, She goes, what's that smell?

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<v Speaker 1>I go, don't worry about it.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll know when you're older.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're about to find out. But yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>some we can definitely smell like pine. Are you trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get rid of the smell or do you like

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<v Speaker 1>the smell?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I mean it's it's a pleasant smell. But we're

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<v Speaker 2>just like, why suddenly does this smell like pine? We

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<v Speaker 2>can't figure it out. So and neither of us are

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<v Speaker 2>stashing weed in the bedroom. But I think it smells

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<v Speaker 2>like weed.

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<v Speaker 1>And well, why don't you start stashing weed? And then

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<v Speaker 1>that will overwhelm the pine smell, and then that will

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<v Speaker 1>create more symbiosis in your own perfect more symbiosis and synergy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you for settling that argument, and I am

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<v Speaker 2>so glad that I won.

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<v Speaker 1>Brad, how do you feel about that outcome?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm crushed? Okay, my life is a lie.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is, by the way, something we've been discussing

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<v Speaker 2>for like a decade. He's like, weed doesn't smell like pine.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it doesn't always smell like skunks, but in this instance,

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<v Speaker 3>I think it smells like weed, and it smells like

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<v Speaker 3>skunky weed.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you don't smell pine? Oh oh I see, I see.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it's interesting to me that you're arguing about this,

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<v Speaker 1>But yet the hard boiled eggs weren't an issue for

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<v Speaker 1>you at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Brad Well, I guess I got to turn a blind eye.

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<v Speaker 1>To some Yeah, it's interesting where you pick your battles.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean that's marriage right there. You got to

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<v Speaker 3>pick your battles where you can exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>So, Chelsea, I wanted to ask you some thoughts about

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<v Speaker 2>making friends as an adult. I find when I meet

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<v Speaker 2>somebody that I really like and I want to hang

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<v Speaker 2>out with them more, I'm not one hundred percent sure

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<v Speaker 2>how to go about that, how to feel out if

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<v Speaker 2>they're as into me as I am into them. What

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<v Speaker 2>are your thoughts? How do you do it?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? That's so funny. I mean I'm always making friends

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<v Speaker 1>as an adult.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're also constantly meeting new people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess I'm lucky that way because I'm always

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<v Speaker 1>bouncing around to different places, so I get to meet

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<v Speaker 1>new people. I feel like it's a mutual connection. When

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<v Speaker 1>you have chemistry, it's kind of undeniable. So likely if

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<v Speaker 1>you're feeling something or like an attraction towards a person

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<v Speaker 1>that you want to just like, spend more time with

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<v Speaker 1>or hang out with in a non sexual way, it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty easy. It's usually reciprocated. I find yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like if someone's texting me going when are we going

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<v Speaker 1>to hang out? And I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel the same way. So I just don't feel like

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<v Speaker 1>who cares about rules as an adult, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. It's not like you're a kid and you're

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<v Speaker 1>so self conscious and thinking about what other people think

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<v Speaker 1>of you. Or maybe you are self conscious, but even so,

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<v Speaker 1>it's good to extend invitations and broaden your horizons always,

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<v Speaker 1>like that's always a good idea to make sure you're

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<v Speaker 1>keeping everything fresh and making new acquaintances as well as friends.

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<v Speaker 1>You never know what anyone's going to bring to the table,

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<v Speaker 1>So I always like to hang out with new people

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. I'm always interested in a different perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And I think a good thing to remember is,

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<v Speaker 1>like we've talked about this a lot, that all relationships

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<v Speaker 1>don't last forever. You know, a lot of relationships and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of new people come into your life for

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<v Speaker 1>a reason as well, So you should be open to

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<v Speaker 1>that aspect of things of like, oh, this might be

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<v Speaker 1>somebody that I'm supposed to know, are supposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>friends with, and could be somebody that you're supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be friends with for the rest of your life. So

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's any shame in reaching out and

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<v Speaker 1>being like, hey, you want to hang out, I'm into

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<v Speaker 1>you or whatever you know, sat into you. But you

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<v Speaker 1>can say I like to be misconstrued in it, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want people to think they're walking into a

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<v Speaker 1>threuttle situation.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's how we caught you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how I feel sometimes when couples are trying to

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<v Speaker 1>hang out with me, I'm like, back it up, back,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a duck up, get away from me. I know

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<v Speaker 1>what you're up to. I once had two friends come over.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so funny. I was leaving Reese Witherspoon's Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>party years ago, and my friend and her husband drove

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<v Speaker 1>me home and then I was like, do you guys

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<v Speaker 1>want to come in for a drink? And they came in.

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<v Speaker 1>It was actually my friend Kate and her ex husband,

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<v Speaker 1>and they came in and they're sitting at my kitchen

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<v Speaker 1>counter and I made them cocktails and then I said,

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<v Speaker 1>just so you guys know, we're not hooking up. And

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<v Speaker 1>they both looked at each other like what and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I don't know what you guys are into,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not into it. And we've been friends ever since.

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<v Speaker 2>Gosh, we had a similar experience with a couple friends

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<v Speaker 2>of ours, and Brad had been hanging out with this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>They were in a band together. I had met him

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<v Speaker 2>a few times because he bartended. We just hit it

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<v Speaker 2>off from the very beginning. Absolutely love this guy. We

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<v Speaker 2>were in the car together, the three of us, and

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<v Speaker 2>we were going to meet his wife, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>i'd met her once or twice, but you know, it

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<v Speaker 2>was early stages, and I made some joke about, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know this is the point where we ask you

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<v Speaker 2>guys to hook up with us or whatever, and he

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<v Speaker 2>thought I was serious, and just the backseat of the

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<v Speaker 2>car went deadly side. That's horrible, like five seconds, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, Matt, I'm joking. And then he was like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, Thank goodness, because I was really enjoying

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<v Speaker 2>hanging out with you guys, and that was about to

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<v Speaker 2>be over.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I hate having to say I'm joking, though,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I know it's an la thing, like a

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<v Speaker 1>good barometer or measure of somebody who's worthy of hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out with as somebody who also knows that that's a joke. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that takes it seriously. No effects to your friend, your new.

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<v Speaker 2>Friend, that's okay. We still are very good friends with

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<v Speaker 2>them to this day. That was like a decade ago,

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, that's great advice. Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Just to close it out, what's your go to friend

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<v Speaker 2>date when you're first meeting someone. Is it let's grab dinner?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it come over? What's your go to.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I recently made a new friend because my

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<v Speaker 1>neighbor called me. I think I talked about this. My

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<v Speaker 1>neighbor that I'm building a house next to you got

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<v Speaker 1>in touch with me and was like, hey, I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>excited that you're moving next to me. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>be We're going to be best friends. He's a gay

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<v Speaker 1>guy obviously, and he's like, I love to party, I

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<v Speaker 1>love everything you represent. I can't wait for us to

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<v Speaker 1>be neighbors. We're going to build a finicular behind our

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<v Speaker 1>houses to meet, or a zipline or whatever. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, that's so fun. And we were trying

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<v Speaker 1>to hang out. We couldn't make it work. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I was in Sundance skiing in park City and he

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<v Speaker 1>was at Sundance at the festival and then we met.

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<v Speaker 1>We met up there and we had a drink together.

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<v Speaker 1>I think a drink, A drink is a good or

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<v Speaker 1>a coffee, like if you're into coffee. I don't really

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<v Speaker 1>drink coffee. So whenever people suggest that, I'm like whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>that's life a meeting, Like I have business meetings over coffee. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know where I pret to drink coffee or I

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<v Speaker 1>have hot tea or who knows. I never know what

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<v Speaker 1>to get at a coffee place.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know what. Starbucks has those not to plug anything,

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<v Speaker 2>but Starbucks has those like refreshers that are like lightly sweet,

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<v Speaker 2>they're fruity, and they have a little teeny bit of caffeine.

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<v Speaker 2>I like those when I'm not into coffee.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, they have caffeine. I like anything with caffeine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's got a little caffeine. I think it's like

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<v Speaker 2>maybe as much as a cup of tea, or maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it is a cup of coffee. I don't know. You

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<v Speaker 2>can ask them about I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for that. Thank you for that recommendation, Catherine.

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<v Speaker 1>That is meaningful.

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<v Speaker 2>So how is your house going? I was actually wondering

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<v Speaker 2>that this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows what the hell's happening with my house? I

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<v Speaker 1>can't even This is a perfect example of my impulsivity.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to get my family out of my house,

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<v Speaker 1>so I had to send them a strong message. I

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<v Speaker 1>put the house on the market. And now I have

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<v Speaker 1>been homeless for two years. Yeah, and I've been in

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<v Speaker 1>a rental. So oh, I have some other sad news

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<v Speaker 1>to announce. Actually, I know, okay, I haven't publicly announced

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<v Speaker 1>it because I don't feel like it. But Bert is

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<v Speaker 1>no longer with us. I know. I'm so sorry to

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<v Speaker 1>hear that thank you, thank you, my poor little baby.

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<v Speaker 1>He's so sweet. But Bernice is still with us, who

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<v Speaker 1>knows for how long, So I'm gonna have to get

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<v Speaker 1>her a little companion soon. Anyway, So my baby boy

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<v Speaker 1>is gone.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm so sorry to hear.

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<v Speaker 1>That thank you. He was such a sweet Oh he

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<v Speaker 1>was so robust when I got him, and watching him

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<v Speaker 1>kind of fall apart.

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<v Speaker 2>Or deteriorate, it was so like, ugh, it's heartbreaking.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what I feel like about dogs. I

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<v Speaker 1>just feel like you gotta pivot that love because you

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<v Speaker 1>give out so much love to them, and when you

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<v Speaker 1>lose a dog. It's such an easy transfer of love

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<v Speaker 1>to find another dog and give another dog a home

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<v Speaker 1>and then give Bernice another little someone to torture. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I will be doing that. I'll be on the

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<v Speaker 1>hunt for a new chow guys soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well I will. I'm sure you wor get a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of emails about this, so I will send things

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<v Speaker 2>along to you, guys. But yeah, I'm so sorry. It's

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<v Speaker 2>never easy. It's just never easy.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's never easy. But you know what you

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<v Speaker 1>have to remember about dogs, It's like you gave them

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<v Speaker 1>a life. He was a rescue and he was in

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<v Speaker 1>bad shape when I got him, and then he was

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<v Speaker 1>loved so hard, yes by his birth mother bought Belle,

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<v Speaker 1>but also by me and all my friends. And he

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<v Speaker 1>was just such a lover. I mean, I've never had

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<v Speaker 1>a dog that would lie on me all night long.

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<v Speaker 1>I just loved that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh what a good boy. Yeah, well, just snuggle Bernice

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<v Speaker 2>a little extra hard next time you see her. And

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<v Speaker 2>also I loved what Laurel and Jackson said is that

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to see them again one day. Well, Chelsea,

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<v Speaker 2>I do have a couple of updates, okay from callers

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<v Speaker 2>from previous episodes, so should we launch into those? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, fantastic. This one is from our dear friend

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<v Speaker 2>Bryden Cantelope, who was our sweet Canadian friend. He was

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<v Speaker 2>in his early twenty and he was like, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to study fashion, but I'm background friends and family and

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<v Speaker 2>i want to move to London. So Braiden says, Hi,

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<v Speaker 2>Chelsea and Catherine, I hope you're both doing well. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just emailing to say, while it's been a year, I've

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<v Speaker 2>finally moved to London. Once my visa was sorted in November,

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<v Speaker 2>I booked my flights for January and here I am.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been here nearly a month now, moving into my

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful flat tomorrow. Honestly, your advice did help give me

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<v Speaker 2>the little kick in the ass I needed to get

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<v Speaker 2>over here, and boy, am I glad I did. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you both for everything, braid and Cantalope. Ps. I've had

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<v Speaker 2>a few viewers actually messaged me on my Instagram to

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<v Speaker 2>see if I made the move. Most recently, someone messaged

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<v Speaker 2>me just the other day and said they're so happy

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<v Speaker 2>to see I made the move. How lovely of people.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's so sweet. I love our little community who

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<v Speaker 1>would have sunk it. You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Seriously, it's just lovely.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to just be a bitch on the E

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<v Speaker 1>network and now look at the wonder wonderful work we're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I even had a maybe love connection the other day.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone had listened to you know, someone who was single

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<v Speaker 2>and said, hey, can you send her my Instagram? So

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<v Speaker 2>I did. We'll see a straight guy apparently, or at

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<v Speaker 2>least sometimes straight.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we should look into doing some sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>matchmaking episode because I really like to set people up

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, make people get together, force them.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that. I love that cool. And then our

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<v Speaker 2>next follow up is from Regina. She was the lesbian

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<v Speaker 2>who was having an affair with a married woman and

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<v Speaker 2>she has this to say, Dear Chelsea, I had a

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<v Speaker 2>fucking fantastic ten day trip to South America. Remember she

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<v Speaker 2>was she was about to leave. That started the day

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<v Speaker 2>after we chatted. While I was gone, I had close

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<v Speaker 2>to zero communication with my lover slash coworker, which is

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<v Speaker 2>of course what we both needed. When I returned, we

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<v Speaker 2>amicably talked and agreed that the affair, both emotional and physical,

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<v Speaker 2>needed to stop. She has stated a few times that

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<v Speaker 2>she is quote going to tell her partner the truth

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<v Speaker 2>when she is ready, and who the fuck knows when

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<v Speaker 2>that will be. I could go into more detail for

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<v Speaker 2>you about how she's struggling with my new lack of

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<v Speaker 2>emotional investment in our relationship and my refusal to be

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<v Speaker 2>vulnerable with her anymore. I think that's great, but it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't really matter. What does matter is talking with you

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<v Speaker 2>was the turning point in this seemingly endless roundabout that

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't stop circling. So thank you so fucking much

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<v Speaker 2>for that. I wanted things to change without having to

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<v Speaker 2>make any changes. The feedback I got from you and

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<v Speaker 2>Natasha was the kick in the ass I needed. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm writing tonight to not only give you that brief update,

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<v Speaker 2>but also to ask one would be a good time

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<v Speaker 2>for us to get together so we can start our

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<v Speaker 2>own affair as per your proposal. I'm vaccinated in horny,

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<v Speaker 2>so let me know when works best for you, Kissy Ritchie.

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<v Speaker 1>But now I have to start sleeping with my female callers.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not such a burden tricky. First of all, vaccinated

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<v Speaker 1>it in Horny tour is over. We are starting a

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<v Speaker 1>little big bitch tour. Okay, and we just added red Rocks.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we added red Rocks. We added there's a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of new dates that we added. So check on Chelseahandler

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<v Speaker 1>dot com for tickets for my new tour, which is

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<v Speaker 1>going to start in April, little big bitch. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be so good. I've been writing all my material while

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<v Speaker 1>I'm writing a fucking book. I'm like Jesus, I have

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<v Speaker 1>too much to do. Too much writing.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta be out there having more life experiences so

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<v Speaker 2>you have something to write.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, maybe I should sleepless watch less TV and

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<v Speaker 1>sleepless and smoke less pot. I'd probably been a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more productive.

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<v Speaker 2>But always help help, I use it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm using this as downtime.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well as your should. It's vacation time.

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<v Speaker 1>But back to the matchmaking thing. If anyone is wanting

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<v Speaker 1>to be hooked up or matchmaked, match made. Anyone want

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<v Speaker 1>to be matchmaked, let us know right in for that

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<v Speaker 1>because we will try and facilitate that. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>are a straight man and you are listening and you

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<v Speaker 1>are single, we can definitely help you. Because the ratio

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<v Speaker 1>of women to men listening to this is very high.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and right matchmaking in the subject line, So I know,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll see what we can do for you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good idea. I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe we'll have to have a matchmaker on or

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<v Speaker 2>somebody who knows about relationships.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't need a matchmaker. I know what to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't it a mitzvah? If you set up three couples

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<v Speaker 2>who get married?

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<v Speaker 4>Is it?

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<v Speaker 2>I think?

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<v Speaker 5>So?

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<v Speaker 1>I just set up a couple. One couple, I a

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<v Speaker 1>gay couple. I don't know what's going to happen with

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<v Speaker 1>them yet. Or yeah, if you're a gay couple. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>gay people want to be set up and they're all

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<v Speaker 1>listening to this. So that's that's a good idea to

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<v Speaker 1>write in for that. But also, you know, straight guys

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<v Speaker 1>would be nice to have some in the mix.

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<v Speaker 2>Unmarried straight guys as we learned lest with your sisters.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, unmarried.

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<v Speaker 2>Please, everyone who participates in this must be unmarried. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>just put it that way.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine? That's that's the next headline, Chelsea Handler

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<v Speaker 1>hooks up married woman with married man.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just Ashley Madison, Chelsea.

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<v Speaker 1>Madison, Chelsea, Christina Barcelona.

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<v Speaker 2>Chelsea. Next up. We have a new segment that we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to be doing, calling and back up with Betterhelp.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to tell us a little bit more about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, So sometimes we get questions where I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>feel it's appropriate for me to be answering. And obviously

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<v Speaker 1>I joke about being a medical professional, but we know

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm not. I have no certification or degree. I

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<v Speaker 1>am just really just spouting stuff straight out of my ass.

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<v Speaker 1>So we are doing this thing where we have Better

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<v Speaker 1>Health Therapists, which you know, they're a sponsor of the podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>and they do great work. It's online therapy, Better Help,

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<v Speaker 1>it's affordable, all of it's so accessible for anybody who's

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<v Speaker 1>having trouble or going through something. So we decided to

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<v Speaker 1>work together in concert with them, and when we have

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<v Speaker 1>some questions that we don't feel like I can answer appropriately,

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<v Speaker 1>we are calling in somebody who is more skilled.

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<v Speaker 2>And with that, David Yaddish, licensed therapy and Clinical operations

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<v Speaker 2>manager at Betterhelp, is going to join us in a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit. Great OC says dear Chelsea. I love listening

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<v Speaker 2>to your podcast, and I've noticed that you are a

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<v Speaker 2>big proponent of therapy, whether it's individual or couple's therapy.

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<v Speaker 2>I come from Asia, where therapy is very taboo. Therapy's

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<v Speaker 2>looked at as something is very wrong with you, or

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<v Speaker 2>it's also like, how pathetic are you that you need

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<v Speaker 2>therapy and can't solve your own problems. I've had many

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<v Speaker 2>issues from my childhood, from my relationship with my mom,

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<v Speaker 2>who passed away when I was twenty five years old.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm forty three now, so my husband recommended that I

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<v Speaker 2>do therapy. I did it for a month or two,

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<v Speaker 2>despite my cultural belief, and I was never able to

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<v Speaker 2>be one hundred percent open with the therapist. She did

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<v Speaker 2>listen a lot and complimented me a lot. To be honest,

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<v Speaker 2>it made me feel great. She then concluded that I

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<v Speaker 2>was totally fine and there was nothing wrong with me.

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<v Speaker 2>Now to my actual question, my husband and I have

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<v Speaker 2>been married for thirteen years, and we have a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of differences, simply starting with cultural differences. He's American and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Far East Asian, so we come from two different

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<v Speaker 2>spectrums of the world culturally and geographically. We also have

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<v Speaker 2>very different personalities. Now, we have three amazing kids together,

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<v Speaker 2>and we both love our kids so much that even

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<v Speaker 2>though we have a lot of differences and sometimes feel

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<v Speaker 2>like this marriage is not working out. We want to

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<v Speaker 2>push through for the sake of the kids. We both

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<v Speaker 2>do agree that we should go to therapy. However, my

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<v Speaker 2>main fear and concern is will therapy break our marriage?

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<v Speaker 2>Do we have so many issues and differences that we

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<v Speaker 2>ignored for so many years that we're opening a can

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<v Speaker 2>of worms? Will therapy make us bring up every issue

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<v Speaker 2>and in the end make us realize we're not right

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<v Speaker 2>for each other? After all? Divorce is absolutely out of

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<v Speaker 2>the question for me. I do not want to put

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<v Speaker 2>my kids through that. Also, I do love my husband

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<v Speaker 2>and I believe he loves me, so I think there's

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<v Speaker 2>a good foundation there and a desire to be together.

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<v Speaker 2>We just never had great communication. Sometimes it feels weird

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<v Speaker 2>to start communication after thirteen years of marriage. Please advise

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<v Speaker 2>if couple's counseling is a good or bad idea for us.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's get our therapist, David on the line and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe he can speak to some of the cultural differences

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<v Speaker 2>some of years around going to therapy. Hi David, Hello, Hi.

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<v Speaker 1>David, how are you.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm doing well? How are you guys?

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<v Speaker 1>Great? Thank you well?

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<v Speaker 2>David, what do you have to say about OC's letter.

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<v Speaker 6>I think this is a great question and great to ask.

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<v Speaker 6>It's never too late to start communicating in any relationship, right,

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<v Speaker 6>But therapy could be really scary, and it's going to

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<v Speaker 6>be different for every time in your life every therapist

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<v Speaker 6>you see. And one of the things that this writer

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<v Speaker 6>brought up in the beginning is that cultural piece. So

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<v Speaker 6>not every therapist is going to have the same life experience,

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<v Speaker 6>not every therapist is going to have the same anything

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<v Speaker 6>in life, right, But like we can all relate on

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<v Speaker 6>a very human level on things about communication, fighting, what

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<v Speaker 6>it's like to just exist in this world together. So

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<v Speaker 6>finding a therapist that maybe is part of the AAPI

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<v Speaker 6>community could be really helpful and help bridge that gap

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<v Speaker 6>to get one hundred percent comfortable in a therapy situation,

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<v Speaker 6>because so much of the work that we do as

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<v Speaker 6>therapists is about the relationship, right. Anybody who's been in

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<v Speaker 6>therapy can talk about if you feel comfortable with your therapist,

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<v Speaker 6>it's so much easier to open up, it's so much

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<v Speaker 6>easier to get to those real, deep core things, and

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<v Speaker 6>that's really important, especially going into couples counseling. There's a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of vulnerability there. Right, you have to talk about

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<v Speaker 6>things that aren't working, the challenges that have come up

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<v Speaker 6>for the years, and they talk about being married for

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<v Speaker 6>thirteen years. I'm sure there's a lot of stuff that

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<v Speaker 6>could be talked about, right.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think, Chelsea?

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<v Speaker 1>I think you just have to If you have a

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<v Speaker 1>desire to want to stay in a relationship and your

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<v Speaker 1>partner has a desire, then you're using couple's counseling or

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<v Speaker 1>a therapist as a bridge to get there. You're enlisting

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<v Speaker 1>somebody to help you maintain the relationship. So of course

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<v Speaker 1>it's worth it. And if you go into therapy thinking

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to fight out all of these things, all

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to find out is about your differences in

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<v Speaker 1>how people prefer to be communicated with. Those are all

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<v Speaker 1>workable things when you have a common goal.

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<v Speaker 2>David, how important do you think it is to find

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<v Speaker 2>a therapist who either has a background that's similar to you,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, whatever it is, LGBTQ, or specializes in something

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<v Speaker 2>that you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 6>I think it's really important. Again, not every therapist is

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<v Speaker 6>going to have those exact experiences and still can relate

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<v Speaker 6>on a number of different levels, but it's really important

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<v Speaker 6>to find someone who you can relate to in that way,

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<v Speaker 6>like you said, LGBTQ, or a certain religious or cultural experience,

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<v Speaker 6>because then it takes away some of that fear, some

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<v Speaker 6>of that anxiety, some of that misunderstanding in sessions.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm.

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<v Speaker 6>So it could be really valuable experience.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that idea of like finding someone who has

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<v Speaker 2>the same cultural background as you or specializes in whatever

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<v Speaker 2>your stuff is. I also will say, you know, as

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<v Speaker 2>far as the worry of it's splitting you up, Chelsea,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you think about that?

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<v Speaker 1>That's just fear, Like that's just not being educated about therapy.

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<v Speaker 1>The idea that therapy is going to split you up

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<v Speaker 1>is ridiculous, Like it's it's the opposite. It's true. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>couples can break up when they go to therapy, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's also a good thing because you're revealing your truths

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<v Speaker 1>about each other or each other's truths and your own

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<v Speaker 1>self truths. So that's unlikely when both people are interested

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<v Speaker 1>in a solution.

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<v Speaker 4>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>I know there was a time in my marriage early

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<v Speaker 2>on where I didn't know if we were going to

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<v Speaker 2>make it, and we went through couples counseling. And even

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<v Speaker 2>though I specifically was at a point where I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if this is happening. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if this is working. I remember our counselor saying to

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<v Speaker 2>us like, I think you have something special that is

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<v Speaker 2>worth working on. And I think for OC, she and

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<v Speaker 2>her husband seem to both have a real willingness to try,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that's kind of half the battle in

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<v Speaker 2>couples counseling.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, usually as long as two people have both feet

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<v Speaker 1>inside the house like that's great, then that's that's an effort,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what that speaks more than anything else that

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna happen, Like when you have a kind of

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<v Speaker 1>united front and it's totally normal to be with somebody

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<v Speaker 1>for that long and to be fucking annoyed with each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, especially when you have some cultural differences that

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, why aren't they just getting this? You know,

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<v Speaker 2>this is how I operate. Thanks David for joining us.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh see, let us know how things go and report back.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh see, you keep in touch.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're going to be doing this segment, calling in

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<v Speaker 2>back up with better help from time to time. So

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<v Speaker 2>feel free to write in questions with that in mind,

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<v Speaker 2>and a big thank you to Calling in backups sponsor

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<v Speaker 2>Better Help, and of course to David Yaddish, licensed therapist

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<v Speaker 2>and clinical operations manager at Better Help. Well, Chelsea, let's

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<v Speaker 2>take a quick break and we'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, And we're back.

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<v Speaker 2>We're back, We're back, everybody, Okay, Chelsea, let's start with

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<v Speaker 2>a caller today. I have Brian calling in. This is

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<v Speaker 2>dear Chelsea. I'm a twenty eight year old gay man.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm shaken up and could really use your advice. Back

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<v Speaker 2>in November and December, I became very content with the

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<v Speaker 2>idea of being single for a long time or forever.

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<v Speaker 2>But right before New Year's all that changed when I

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<v Speaker 2>met Peter. What was to be a short tender date

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<v Speaker 2>turned into a five hour rendezvous of endless conversation, and

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<v Speaker 2>I even saw him again the next day. I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like in gay culture, that's like big right. The connection

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<v Speaker 2>was unreal, and just a week later we were dating officially.

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<v Speaker 2>We told each other things we've never told anyone, and

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<v Speaker 2>we just could not stop talking to each other. I

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<v Speaker 2>felt totally myself around him, and therefore I let my

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<v Speaker 2>guard completely down and started falling in love. It was

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<v Speaker 2>long distance, but we spent every weekend of January together

0:26:51.119 --> 0:26:53.880
<v Speaker 2>and during the week we'd FaceTime every day for hours.

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<v Speaker 2>I met his friends, told my parents I was dating someone,

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<v Speaker 2>which I've never done, and we made many travel plans

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<v Speaker 2>to see each other through at least the summer. We

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<v Speaker 2>were both actively applying for jobs in each other's respective

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<v Speaker 2>cities so that we didn't have to be long distance forever.

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<v Speaker 2>I recently drove eight hours to spend the week with him.

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<v Speaker 2>The week was wonderful and there were no signs of issues,

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<v Speaker 2>and the day after I made my drive back home,

0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:19.439
<v Speaker 2>he started texting me a little less frequently. Then he

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<v Speaker 2>called me that evening and said he wanted to break

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<v Speaker 2>off the relationship. For context, he's thirty four and came

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<v Speaker 2>out just a year ago. Shortly after he came out,

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<v Speaker 2>he got into a six month relationship with a man

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<v Speaker 2>which ended out of the blue. We met maybe a

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<v Speaker 2>month and a half after that last breakup. His reasoning

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<v Speaker 2>for ending it with me was that he needed space

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<v Speaker 2>to be a single, openly gay man. He also cited

0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:43.679
<v Speaker 2>the long distance and his demanding job. I'm just at

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<v Speaker 2>a complete loss. We both communicated our intent that this

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<v Speaker 2>relationship was a long term, and he just flipped the

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<v Speaker 2>switch completely one day. Like him, I have my own burdens,

0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:55.399
<v Speaker 2>but those burdens became completely eclipsed by the feelings I

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<v Speaker 2>have for him. We ended the breakup call with the

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<v Speaker 2>possibility of getting in touch and rekindling at some point,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever that means. Chelsea, Please help me process what's going on. Brian.

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<v Speaker 4>Hi, Brian, Hi there, Hi.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, Brian. That happened, thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>It happened two days ago now, so it's very very recent,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And how many months were you guys together? Five? Did

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<v Speaker 1>you say?

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<v Speaker 4>Just one month? Actually?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Sorry, okay, so you were oh so one month? Okay. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the good news is it's going to take you a

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<v Speaker 1>much quicker time to get over a one month dalliance.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds a lot like uh, love bombing from just

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<v Speaker 1>hearing your letter to be that intense that quickly. I

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<v Speaker 1>was reading about love bombing once because my girlfriend was

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<v Speaker 1>going through the same thing. And it's like somebody's explosively

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<v Speaker 1>in love with you right just on. You're facetiming all

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<v Speaker 1>day long, you're telling you're making future plans premature to

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<v Speaker 1>when that's appropriate. And if you guys, doing all of

0:28:56.080 --> 0:28:59.000
<v Speaker 1>that with inside of one month is a big red flack.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's an unhealthy dynamic. Anyway, you know you're supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to you can totally be into somebody that much, but

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<v Speaker 1>starting to make plans like that and acting like that,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it's not stable, do you know what I mean? Like,

0:29:10.920 --> 0:29:13.720
<v Speaker 1>it's not a slow burn and a slow growth where

0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:16.680
<v Speaker 1>it goes like this in a regular ascent, in a

0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:20.440
<v Speaker 1>healthy way. So it sounds a little bit unhealthy, which

0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:23.040
<v Speaker 1>is why you probably feel spun out right now.

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<v Speaker 4>The reason for it kind of escalating that quickly was

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<v Speaker 4>that it was long distance and we just had this

0:29:30.080 --> 0:29:33.280
<v Speaker 4>strong media connection right from the get go. It had

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<v Speaker 4>a conversation at the very beginning of the relationship ship

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<v Speaker 4>saying this is long term and we're gonna see it through,

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<v Speaker 4>and we committed to that throughout the month, and just

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<v Speaker 4>the other day, out of the blue, it was like

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<v Speaker 4>a switch and he said, no, I can't do this.

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<v Speaker 4>I do understand what you're saying about love bombing though

0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:53.560
<v Speaker 4>that it seemed like it was too quick, But and

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<v Speaker 4>in the breakup call, I tried to almost negotiate with him, saying,

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<v Speaker 4>why don't we just like blow it down instead of

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<v Speaker 4>just having this clean break, given that we are so

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<v Speaker 4>into each other and he just wasn't really seeing my

0:30:07.960 --> 0:30:08.840
<v Speaker 4>perspective on that.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you bring up, Hey, what about everything you said

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<v Speaker 1>and the commitment that we were making.

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<v Speaker 4>I did a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Because that is also part of love bombing, making big

0:30:18.320 --> 0:30:21.680
<v Speaker 1>commitments and then turning off immediately like a switch. You

0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:23.920
<v Speaker 1>shower someone with love, shower them with love, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you're gone.

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<v Speaker 2>And big promises and big stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that Brian, it doesn't really matter what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on with him. It matters what's going on with you.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, because I'm talking to you right now and

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<v Speaker 1>I understand how you're feeling. I've been there, We've all

0:30:39.040 --> 0:30:41.080
<v Speaker 1>been there. You feel like you have the rug pulled

0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:43.320
<v Speaker 1>out from underneath you. But there's a lot of advantages

0:30:43.320 --> 0:30:45.280
<v Speaker 1>to the situation that I don't think you can see yet.

0:30:45.320 --> 0:30:47.880
<v Speaker 1>A it was a very short amount of time. You

0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:50.680
<v Speaker 1>will get past this sooner than later. I know it

0:30:50.680 --> 0:30:53.240
<v Speaker 1>doesn't feel like that in this moment, but after a

0:30:53.240 --> 0:30:56.640
<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks, your feelings will subside. I promise you

0:30:56.680 --> 0:30:58.960
<v Speaker 1>that your feelings will subside. You're still going to be

0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 1>hurt because it's hurt. It's not leaving it open ended.

0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:04.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess you're kind of leaving it open ended.

0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:07.440
<v Speaker 1>But that was at your behest, not his. So I

0:31:07.480 --> 0:31:10.200
<v Speaker 1>think that look at his behavior for what it is

0:31:10.400 --> 0:31:13.280
<v Speaker 1>and what it was. You made that commitment to him,

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:16.760
<v Speaker 1>barely knowing him, getting to know him long distance, and

0:31:16.840 --> 0:31:19.640
<v Speaker 1>you meant it, and he made that commitment and he

0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 1>didn't mean it right. So I think that character assessment

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:27.720
<v Speaker 1>is really integral into your healing and understanding. You don't

0:31:27.720 --> 0:31:30.040
<v Speaker 1>want to be with someone who says things like that

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<v Speaker 1>and then turns around and freaks out. Now, listen, if

0:31:33.120 --> 0:31:35.440
<v Speaker 1>he comes back to you in a couple of weeks

0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:38.040
<v Speaker 1>or a couple months and says, oh my god, I'm

0:31:38.040 --> 0:31:40.320
<v Speaker 1>so sorry. I want to do this again, Like you

0:31:40.400 --> 0:31:43.200
<v Speaker 1>need to set some boundaries and ground rules. That's not

0:31:43.320 --> 0:31:45.200
<v Speaker 1>cool what you did. I was in it with you.

0:31:45.280 --> 0:31:47.160
<v Speaker 1>We made a commitment. I thought we were working in

0:31:47.200 --> 0:31:51.000
<v Speaker 1>a unified front together, and then you pulled the rugout

0:31:51.000 --> 0:31:53.520
<v Speaker 1>from under me. I don't think you've done anything wrong.

0:31:53.920 --> 0:31:56.239
<v Speaker 1>I think you're just going to need some time to

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<v Speaker 1>get around it. But I don't think you should have

0:31:57.960 --> 0:32:00.360
<v Speaker 1>any contact with him. I don't think you should reach

0:32:00.360 --> 0:32:01.840
<v Speaker 1>out to him. I think you should give him. I

0:32:01.840 --> 0:32:03.920
<v Speaker 1>think when somebody asks for space, you should give them

0:32:03.960 --> 0:32:05.200
<v Speaker 1>double Okay.

0:32:05.760 --> 0:32:09.280
<v Speaker 4>Unfortunately, yesterday I wrote him a letter. Okay, It's very

0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:12.200
<v Speaker 4>cathartic for me, given that it was a quick thirty

0:32:12.240 --> 0:32:14.760
<v Speaker 4>minute phone call with a lot of awkward pauses. I

0:32:14.840 --> 0:32:18.080
<v Speaker 4>was just totally in shock. So instead I wrote him

0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:20.800
<v Speaker 4>a letter like twelve hours later, and I nailed it

0:32:20.840 --> 0:32:24.520
<v Speaker 4>to him, explaining like how I was so hurt given

0:32:24.720 --> 0:32:30.000
<v Speaker 4>the circumstances, and as far as moving forward, I only

0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:32.160
<v Speaker 4>want to hear from him if he's in the space

0:32:32.240 --> 0:32:33.440
<v Speaker 4>that he wants to reach out to me.

0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:34.080
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

0:32:34.120 --> 0:32:39.040
<v Speaker 4>So I left the possibility open. And I've spoken to

0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:43.000
<v Speaker 4>some of my friends about this, given them the context,

0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:45.800
<v Speaker 4>and they keep saying they expect him to come back

0:32:45.800 --> 0:32:49.000
<v Speaker 4>at some point, and I'm wondering if that's your take

0:32:49.040 --> 0:32:52.120
<v Speaker 4>on it too. You kind of alluded to that, but.

0:32:52.920 --> 0:32:55.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know. Yeah, there's a possibility, and

0:32:55.640 --> 0:32:58.040
<v Speaker 1>I think that sometimes helps people get over their healing,

0:32:58.160 --> 0:33:01.600
<v Speaker 1>the idea that someone's going to come back. And that's fine.

0:33:01.680 --> 0:33:03.959
<v Speaker 1>Whatever you need to do to move on. The important

0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:07.440
<v Speaker 1>thing is like, yeah, you can assume that. I don't

0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:09.040
<v Speaker 1>know if he's going to come back. I have no

0:33:09.120 --> 0:33:11.760
<v Speaker 1>idea who this guy is, obviously so and I'm not

0:33:11.880 --> 0:33:16.280
<v Speaker 1>a palm reader, but I think it's an opportunity for

0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:20.520
<v Speaker 1>you to kind of restabilize now that he's out of

0:33:20.560 --> 0:33:22.800
<v Speaker 1>the picture. If he does come back, I want you

0:33:22.880 --> 0:33:26.040
<v Speaker 1>to be have a stronger sense of self and of

0:33:26.120 --> 0:33:29.240
<v Speaker 1>boundaries and what's healthy and what isn't if and when

0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:31.480
<v Speaker 1>that does happen, and if it's not him, for the

0:33:31.520 --> 0:33:35.120
<v Speaker 1>next person. It's not healthy to get that crazy and

0:33:35.160 --> 0:33:38.400
<v Speaker 1>that together in a month. It's understandable that you have

0:33:38.400 --> 0:33:41.440
<v Speaker 1>an attraction, but long distance. I've had long distance relationships,

0:33:41.640 --> 0:33:44.400
<v Speaker 1>I've dated long distance. It's not necessary to get like that,

0:33:44.640 --> 0:33:46.880
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. That's a build because if

0:33:46.920 --> 0:33:49.440
<v Speaker 1>you start in one month and you guys are on

0:33:49.520 --> 0:33:52.080
<v Speaker 1>the phone however many hours a day, you're facetiming all

0:33:52.120 --> 0:33:54.600
<v Speaker 1>that stuff that's never going to last, and you have

0:33:54.640 --> 0:33:57.560
<v Speaker 1>nowhere to go from the first month, you have nowhere

0:33:57.600 --> 0:34:00.840
<v Speaker 1>to climb. You know, you want like a healthy long

0:34:00.960 --> 0:34:04.240
<v Speaker 1>term relationship, right, is that what you're after? Ultimately?

0:34:04.760 --> 0:34:05.120
<v Speaker 6>Yes?

0:34:05.480 --> 0:34:08.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I think this is a lesson for you

0:34:08.320 --> 0:34:11.080
<v Speaker 1>to just consider all of those things and think about

0:34:11.080 --> 0:34:13.400
<v Speaker 1>how you want to move forward in the next relationship

0:34:13.560 --> 0:34:15.320
<v Speaker 1>or if this guy does return.

0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:19.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think there's a little bit of guarding your

0:34:19.360 --> 0:34:22.200
<v Speaker 2>heart that should happen if you do hear from him again.

0:34:22.280 --> 0:34:25.040
<v Speaker 2>And I also think, you know, having written him the letter,

0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:27.799
<v Speaker 2>jives with what Chelsea was saying. You said, the door

0:34:27.880 --> 0:34:30.320
<v Speaker 2>is open if you want to contact me, but I'm

0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:34.080
<v Speaker 2>not gonna chase you. I also think when you're long distance,

0:34:34.480 --> 0:34:37.960
<v Speaker 2>especially from the beginning, there's an opportunity for you to

0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:40.920
<v Speaker 2>live in the fantasy of this is going to be

0:34:40.960 --> 0:34:44.160
<v Speaker 2>so amazing, it's going to be great, all the amazing

0:34:44.239 --> 0:34:46.920
<v Speaker 2>things were so in love, but you're not dealing with

0:34:46.960 --> 0:34:49.279
<v Speaker 2>the day to day of like being around each other,

0:34:49.719 --> 0:34:53.279
<v Speaker 2>of like the everyday annoyances of you know, you came

0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:55.160
<v Speaker 2>home pissed because you had a bad day at work

0:34:55.239 --> 0:34:57.040
<v Speaker 2>and he's got to deal with you. You know, all

0:34:57.080 --> 0:34:59.600
<v Speaker 2>of that stuff is not present, and so it's very

0:34:59.600 --> 0:35:03.719
<v Speaker 2>easy to only experience like the exciting part of it.

0:35:04.239 --> 0:35:05.880
<v Speaker 2>Who knows if he's going to come back, but if

0:35:05.880 --> 0:35:07.920
<v Speaker 2>he does, I think you got to guard your heart

0:35:07.960 --> 0:35:09.520
<v Speaker 2>a little bit right.

0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:12.719
<v Speaker 4>I'm just in shock, given that I have a tendency

0:35:12.760 --> 0:35:16.920
<v Speaker 4>to not be vulnerable and put up balls, and I

0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:18.759
<v Speaker 4>have made a conscious effort at the beginning of this

0:35:19.040 --> 0:35:23.200
<v Speaker 4>relationship to not do that, let everything go, and was

0:35:23.239 --> 0:35:25.480
<v Speaker 4>like totally myself around him, And that's why it hurts

0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:25.919
<v Speaker 4>so bad.

0:35:26.480 --> 0:35:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know, I can tell you're hurting obviously, and

0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:33.000
<v Speaker 1>I just want you to remember this is a month

0:35:33.040 --> 0:35:35.759
<v Speaker 1>of your life and it seems like the biggest month

0:35:35.800 --> 0:35:38.279
<v Speaker 1>of your life right now. Once you get a little

0:35:38.280 --> 0:35:40.040
<v Speaker 1>bit of distance from this, it's not going to be

0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:42.400
<v Speaker 1>so big in your mind. It just won't be. And

0:35:42.440 --> 0:35:43.919
<v Speaker 1>I know if you want to hold onto the idea

0:35:43.960 --> 0:35:46.960
<v Speaker 1>that he's coming back, that's fine too. That sometimes helps people.

0:35:46.960 --> 0:35:49.440
<v Speaker 1>I've done that in the past, and to get over somebody,

0:35:49.520 --> 0:35:51.839
<v Speaker 1>you know, like they'll be back, they'll be back, and

0:35:51.840 --> 0:35:54.200
<v Speaker 1>by the way, they always are. I mean for women,

0:35:54.320 --> 0:35:55.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, I can't speak for gay man because it's

0:35:55.920 --> 0:35:58.600
<v Speaker 1>a little bit different. But you know, I just really

0:35:58.600 --> 0:36:01.200
<v Speaker 1>want you to look inward and focus on yourself and

0:36:01.239 --> 0:36:05.200
<v Speaker 1>you're healing and positive vibrations for you, you know, instead

0:36:05.239 --> 0:36:09.320
<v Speaker 1>of obsessing about what he's doing, which is sometimes you know, unavoidable.

0:36:09.400 --> 0:36:11.400
<v Speaker 1>I know how the brain works, and you're going to

0:36:11.440 --> 0:36:13.919
<v Speaker 1>be obsessing over him because you care so much about

0:36:14.000 --> 0:36:16.880
<v Speaker 1>him and you are so hurt. I just think, you know,

0:36:17.040 --> 0:36:19.640
<v Speaker 1>hold your head high. You sent him that letter and

0:36:19.680 --> 0:36:22.680
<v Speaker 1>act with integrity, and now you can step away from him.

0:36:23.040 --> 0:36:25.000
<v Speaker 1>And if and when he comes back, then it's going

0:36:25.080 --> 0:36:26.919
<v Speaker 1>to be a different story. If it's like a few

0:36:27.000 --> 0:36:29.280
<v Speaker 1>days and he's like, I fucked up, then that obviously,

0:36:29.360 --> 0:36:31.600
<v Speaker 1>then okay, you're on the same page. But if it's

0:36:31.640 --> 0:36:34.120
<v Speaker 1>a couple months and he comes back and says like, Okay,

0:36:34.160 --> 0:36:35.399
<v Speaker 1>now I want to come back, and be like, well,

0:36:35.480 --> 0:36:37.879
<v Speaker 1>not so fast. We have to have some ground rules now.

0:36:38.360 --> 0:36:40.879
<v Speaker 1>But I want you to think about how you can

0:36:41.040 --> 0:36:45.040
<v Speaker 1>be stronger and better and more grounded in every relationship

0:36:45.080 --> 0:36:48.680
<v Speaker 1>moving forward, and focus on that skill set while you're

0:36:48.719 --> 0:36:51.120
<v Speaker 1>going through this time. I think when you try to

0:36:51.280 --> 0:36:53.880
<v Speaker 1>like look at yourself and you try to better yourself

0:36:53.920 --> 0:36:56.400
<v Speaker 1>and maybe read a book about breaking up.

0:36:56.560 --> 0:36:59.120
<v Speaker 6>Do you read books a little bit? Yeah?

0:36:59.239 --> 0:37:01.640
<v Speaker 1>Okay. I just wanted you to keep yourself busy and

0:37:01.680 --> 0:37:04.080
<v Speaker 1>just try and get through the initial blunt force of

0:37:04.120 --> 0:37:07.000
<v Speaker 1>the trauma of breaking up with somebody after a month,

0:37:07.360 --> 0:37:09.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, and I think once you get past like

0:37:09.600 --> 0:37:13.400
<v Speaker 1>two weeks, you're gonna feel a lot differently than you

0:37:13.440 --> 0:37:15.480
<v Speaker 1>do feel now. You might still have the same feelings,

0:37:15.480 --> 0:37:17.640
<v Speaker 1>but they won't it won't be such a dagger in

0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:18.480
<v Speaker 1>your chest.

0:37:18.600 --> 0:37:21.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. One thing that I keep I'm thinking about now.

0:37:22.000 --> 0:37:25.480
<v Speaker 4>I keep trying to theorize, like, what was going in

0:37:25.520 --> 0:37:29.360
<v Speaker 4>his mind this entire month and at the moment of breakup.

0:37:29.560 --> 0:37:32.000
<v Speaker 4>Is it just simply he got cold feet? Or was

0:37:32.040 --> 0:37:35.399
<v Speaker 4>it that the entire month he was being superficial and fake.

0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:39.400
<v Speaker 4>I keep going back to that, but I hear what

0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:43.680
<v Speaker 4>you're saying about I need to stop belaboring that point

0:37:43.760 --> 0:37:45.960
<v Speaker 4>and just move forward with my life.

0:37:46.080 --> 0:37:47.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you can try. And you know, I think

0:37:47.800 --> 0:37:50.880
<v Speaker 1>a good exercise is sending him love in your own mind.

0:37:51.280 --> 0:37:54.280
<v Speaker 1>I want to send him peace, happiness, and love anytime

0:37:54.360 --> 0:37:56.479
<v Speaker 1>he comes into your mind, to just give out love.

0:37:57.040 --> 0:37:59.200
<v Speaker 1>You may not get these answers. And to be quite

0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:02.319
<v Speaker 1>frank with you, it doesn't matter what his mo is,

0:38:02.560 --> 0:38:05.480
<v Speaker 1>what he was doing. It matters what you're doing. It

0:38:05.480 --> 0:38:07.480
<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter if he was manipulating you or if he

0:38:07.560 --> 0:38:09.319
<v Speaker 1>really felt it and he got cold feet. I know

0:38:09.360 --> 0:38:12.279
<v Speaker 1>it matters to you psychologically, right, now, but ultimately, in

0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:15.520
<v Speaker 1>the bigger scheme of things, his behavior doesn't matter, yours does.

0:38:16.960 --> 0:38:19.680
<v Speaker 4>That's how I ended the letter I sent him, saying like,

0:38:19.760 --> 0:38:22.040
<v Speaker 4>I want you to be happy, and I'm glad to

0:38:22.160 --> 0:38:24.000
<v Speaker 4>have been on that journey with you, even if.

0:38:23.840 --> 0:38:25.480
<v Speaker 6>It was just for the short moment.

0:38:25.680 --> 0:38:26.160
<v Speaker 1>That's good.

0:38:26.719 --> 0:38:28.280
<v Speaker 4>I tried to like push that forward.

0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:32.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, great, keep writing that train. That's exactly what you

0:38:32.480 --> 0:38:33.319
<v Speaker 1>need to do to heal.

0:38:33.840 --> 0:38:37.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, there's also in your letter. You guys

0:38:37.320 --> 0:38:39.640
<v Speaker 2>got close enough that he opened up to you about

0:38:39.640 --> 0:38:42.600
<v Speaker 2>other relationships that have ended really abruptly, and I'm glad

0:38:42.640 --> 0:38:45.560
<v Speaker 2>you included that in your letter. So that may just

0:38:45.640 --> 0:38:49.960
<v Speaker 2>be kind of how he operates. And it's kind of

0:38:49.960 --> 0:38:51.799
<v Speaker 2>a good thing that you guys weren't together for six

0:38:51.880 --> 0:38:55.400
<v Speaker 2>months or a year or engaged before he suddenly was

0:38:55.680 --> 0:38:56.359
<v Speaker 2>out of your life.

0:38:57.440 --> 0:38:59.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree with that. Be grateful that it was

0:38:59.560 --> 0:39:02.360
<v Speaker 1>a month this happened and not six months, because that

0:39:02.400 --> 0:39:05.200
<v Speaker 1>would have been really, really, even more painful than what

0:39:05.239 --> 0:39:08.319
<v Speaker 1>you're going through right now. I know that's unimaginable to you,

0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:10.719
<v Speaker 1>but I promise you it would have been worse if

0:39:10.719 --> 0:39:13.080
<v Speaker 1>it had. You know, sometimes in our lives and I

0:39:13.080 --> 0:39:16.360
<v Speaker 1>know I've felt this way sometimes when we can't recognize

0:39:16.360 --> 0:39:19.919
<v Speaker 1>the situation we're in, there's a bigger higher power that's

0:39:19.960 --> 0:39:23.200
<v Speaker 1>pulling us out of it. And I think it's helpful

0:39:23.239 --> 0:39:25.640
<v Speaker 1>to sometimes look at things like that. Not everything is

0:39:25.640 --> 0:39:29.200
<v Speaker 1>in your control, and sometimes you're someone's doing you a

0:39:29.239 --> 0:39:31.120
<v Speaker 1>favor and you don't even know it's a favor until

0:39:31.200 --> 0:39:32.279
<v Speaker 1>much later, right.

0:39:32.400 --> 0:39:35.440
<v Speaker 4>I think another point similar to that is in the

0:39:35.440 --> 0:39:38.000
<v Speaker 4>beginning of my letter to you, I had mentioned I

0:39:38.040 --> 0:39:40.560
<v Speaker 4>had been content with the idea of being single for

0:39:40.840 --> 0:39:43.759
<v Speaker 4>a very long time, and then this happened. So this

0:39:43.880 --> 0:39:47.800
<v Speaker 4>kind of changes my perspective of relationships, knowing that I

0:39:48.520 --> 0:39:52.120
<v Speaker 4>do have the ability to love another person business it

0:39:52.160 --> 0:39:54.840
<v Speaker 4>may not be this person, but it can happen in

0:39:54.840 --> 0:39:55.320
<v Speaker 4>the future.

0:39:55.560 --> 0:39:58.719
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, absolutely, You're not a victim. This is a

0:39:58.760 --> 0:40:02.000
<v Speaker 1>good empowering situation, and I beg you to use it,

0:40:02.120 --> 0:40:04.239
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Use it to make you stronger,

0:40:04.600 --> 0:40:07.560
<v Speaker 1>to make you more aware and to be the person

0:40:07.960 --> 0:40:10.520
<v Speaker 1>that is going to attract the person that you're looking for.

0:40:10.920 --> 0:40:12.680
<v Speaker 1>And in order to be that person, you know what

0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:14.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean, sometimes we have to do a little bit

0:40:14.400 --> 0:40:16.520
<v Speaker 1>of extra work, and there are lessons along the way.

0:40:16.800 --> 0:40:18.920
<v Speaker 1>And then all of a sudden, you're at this like

0:40:19.040 --> 0:40:22.920
<v Speaker 1>higher level of vibration and you're attracting somebody who's really

0:40:22.960 --> 0:40:25.440
<v Speaker 1>on the level and can see you exactly for what

0:40:25.560 --> 0:40:28.600
<v Speaker 1>you are, and then you join forces and it's explosive.

0:40:29.120 --> 0:40:32.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, don't neglect the slow burn. I mean I when

0:40:32.440 --> 0:40:35.480
<v Speaker 2>I first started dating my husband, I had gotten out

0:40:35.480 --> 0:40:38.480
<v Speaker 2>of a relationship that was very like tons of love bombing.

0:40:38.600 --> 0:40:41.400
<v Speaker 2>It wound up becoming very abusive. It was eleven months

0:40:41.400 --> 0:40:44.400
<v Speaker 2>of bad stuff and I, you know, a single for

0:40:44.440 --> 0:40:48.279
<v Speaker 2>a little while. I met Brad, and compared to what

0:40:48.440 --> 0:40:51.200
<v Speaker 2>I had come from, this was just sort of like

0:40:51.400 --> 0:40:55.320
<v Speaker 2>a very nice guy who pursued me and wanted to

0:40:55.360 --> 0:40:58.080
<v Speaker 2>trick me right. And there's something about it if you've

0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:00.520
<v Speaker 2>gone through a relationship where there is a lot of

0:41:00.520 --> 0:41:04.880
<v Speaker 2>love bombing, that a more healthy, stable relationship can seem

0:41:05.040 --> 0:41:07.640
<v Speaker 2>almost boring or a lot less exciting because you don't

0:41:07.640 --> 0:41:11.319
<v Speaker 2>have these extreme high highs and extreme low lows. But

0:41:11.360 --> 0:41:15.000
<v Speaker 2>that stability is also what a healthy relationship is built on.

0:41:15.520 --> 0:41:18.640
<v Speaker 2>So don't neglect the guys that might seem a little

0:41:18.719 --> 0:41:22.160
<v Speaker 2>less exciting at the very beginning. Please take that the

0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:26.319
<v Speaker 2>right way, Brad, But you know it can be good

0:41:26.360 --> 0:41:27.680
<v Speaker 2>for longer term.

0:41:28.280 --> 0:41:31.200
<v Speaker 1>You have to get to know somebody. When there's electricity,

0:41:31.600 --> 0:41:34.120
<v Speaker 1>that's great, but that's not all it takes to be

0:41:34.160 --> 0:41:37.680
<v Speaker 1>in a relationship. That's just chemistry, you know, And that's

0:41:37.719 --> 0:41:40.200
<v Speaker 1>when you spark with someone. And sometimes you know, you

0:41:40.239 --> 0:41:42.600
<v Speaker 1>can get carried away, and it sounds like you got

0:41:42.640 --> 0:41:45.239
<v Speaker 1>carried away. You don't really know him. You don't know

0:41:45.280 --> 0:41:47.279
<v Speaker 1>his character, you don't know his background. You just know

0:41:47.320 --> 0:41:49.919
<v Speaker 1>what he's told you. You know you haven't spent enough

0:41:49.920 --> 0:41:52.080
<v Speaker 1>time with him, with his family, with his friends, all

0:41:52.120 --> 0:41:55.200
<v Speaker 1>of those things matter, and vice versa. He has to

0:41:55.239 --> 0:41:58.360
<v Speaker 1>spend time with you. It's fun and it's great, but

0:41:58.440 --> 0:42:02.680
<v Speaker 1>it's not healthy. How old are you, Brian, I'm thirty.

0:42:03.320 --> 0:42:06.239
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, Well listen, you're gonna have plenty of people.

0:42:06.239 --> 0:42:07.600
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna have plenty of time to get your heart

0:42:07.600 --> 0:42:10.560
<v Speaker 1>broken again and break other people's hearts. So, you know,

0:42:10.600 --> 0:42:13.160
<v Speaker 1>when you get stuck and miired in it, just try

0:42:13.200 --> 0:42:15.879
<v Speaker 1>and pull yourself out and get that perspective of your

0:42:16.040 --> 0:42:19.080
<v Speaker 1>entire life, not just this moment, and look at your

0:42:19.120 --> 0:42:22.520
<v Speaker 1>whole life and your past and your future. And then

0:42:22.560 --> 0:42:24.520
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna understand that a month is nothing.

0:42:25.200 --> 0:42:29.239
<v Speaker 4>M I really appreciate place outsider perspective. Since I've been

0:42:29.239 --> 0:42:32.399
<v Speaker 4>getting the comments from my friends, it's all they're trying

0:42:32.400 --> 0:42:34.879
<v Speaker 4>to support me and saying, oh, he's gonna come back.

0:42:35.239 --> 0:42:37.919
<v Speaker 4>It's kind of like myopics I've been thinking versus year,

0:42:38.400 --> 0:42:41.680
<v Speaker 4>giving me a more holistic picture, which I really appreciate.

0:42:42.160 --> 0:42:43.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that's important.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, will you check back in with us in a

0:42:45.440 --> 0:42:48.799
<v Speaker 2>few weeks, Brian, I will, all right, let us know

0:42:48.840 --> 0:42:49.399
<v Speaker 2>how it's going.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I will thank you so much.

0:42:52.000 --> 0:42:53.920
<v Speaker 2>Thank thanks, Brian, talking to you.

0:42:54.320 --> 0:42:55.760
<v Speaker 4>Bye bye bye.

0:42:56.640 --> 0:42:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh what a sweetie.

0:42:58.080 --> 0:42:59.239
<v Speaker 1>Oh heartbreak.

0:42:59.480 --> 0:43:00.719
<v Speaker 2>I know, you know.

0:43:01.000 --> 0:43:04.600
<v Speaker 1>I remember meeting this fucking guy on MySpace remember my Space?

0:43:05.280 --> 0:43:09.280
<v Speaker 1>And I went out with him. Oh god, I forget

0:43:09.320 --> 0:43:12.880
<v Speaker 1>how many times, but enough, you know, for a couple months,

0:43:12.880 --> 0:43:15.839
<v Speaker 1>maybe a month and a half, but intense. We were

0:43:15.840 --> 0:43:17.680
<v Speaker 1>into each other. Not to the degree that this guy's

0:43:17.680 --> 0:43:20.160
<v Speaker 1>talking about, because I would never FaceTime that long. But

0:43:20.560 --> 0:43:22.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know about FaceTime at that point. I

0:43:22.480 --> 0:43:24.240
<v Speaker 1>don't know if we had it because MySpace.

0:43:24.520 --> 0:43:26.399
<v Speaker 2>I don't even think we had iPhones like then.

0:43:26.520 --> 0:43:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think we had the Internet. And he blew

0:43:29.520 --> 0:43:31.000
<v Speaker 1>me off. He goes to me. I was like in

0:43:31.040 --> 0:43:37.000
<v Speaker 1>my twenties, and I was obsessed with finding out what happened.

0:43:37.120 --> 0:43:38.719
<v Speaker 2>Ghosting is the worst.

0:43:39.000 --> 0:43:43.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, obsessed with finding out what happened? What is it

0:43:43.280 --> 0:43:45.240
<v Speaker 1>because of something I did? Is it because of something

0:43:45.239 --> 0:43:47.760
<v Speaker 1>I said? Did I do that? Did I get too drunk?

0:43:47.800 --> 0:43:53.280
<v Speaker 1>Did I whatever? Just obsessed there had to be a reason.

0:43:53.320 --> 0:43:56.000
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, sometimes there just isn't a fucking reason.

0:43:56.040 --> 0:43:59.080
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter, It doesn't matter at all. It just

0:43:59.120 --> 0:44:02.319
<v Speaker 1>matters how you kind of react to those situations, and

0:44:02.320 --> 0:44:05.240
<v Speaker 1>when you let them envelop you and take over your mind,

0:44:05.600 --> 0:44:07.960
<v Speaker 1>it just has such a negative impact on everything else

0:44:07.960 --> 0:44:09.600
<v Speaker 1>that's going on in your life at that moment.

0:44:10.040 --> 0:44:13.560
<v Speaker 2>Yep, it definitely does. I think he's gonna be just fine,

0:44:13.760 --> 0:44:16.000
<v Speaker 2>And I'm glad that he sort of learned how to

0:44:16.040 --> 0:44:19.520
<v Speaker 2>be vulnerable in this situation and he could rain that

0:44:19.560 --> 0:44:22.680
<v Speaker 2>into a healthy degree in his next interaction. I think

0:44:22.719 --> 0:44:25.600
<v Speaker 2>that's perfect. That's exactly what he's But he met the

0:44:25.600 --> 0:44:28.279
<v Speaker 2>person who wanted to take advantage maybe of that vulnerability,

0:44:28.320 --> 0:44:30.359
<v Speaker 2>Like right at the moment he decided to like give

0:44:30.400 --> 0:44:32.439
<v Speaker 2>it all away, and you got to give it out

0:44:32.480 --> 0:44:34.600
<v Speaker 2>in increments, you know, people have to earn it.

0:44:35.080 --> 0:44:37.200
<v Speaker 1>I like the phrase welcome the pain, you know.

0:44:37.920 --> 0:44:38.400
<v Speaker 2>I like that.

0:44:38.520 --> 0:44:41.279
<v Speaker 1>I read that in some book and it ran deep

0:44:41.320 --> 0:44:44.360
<v Speaker 1>with me because I just it's a great way to

0:44:44.400 --> 0:44:48.319
<v Speaker 1>look at a hard situation, because I feel like, you know,

0:44:48.360 --> 0:44:50.359
<v Speaker 1>we all go through difficult breakups and we all get

0:44:50.360 --> 0:44:54.399
<v Speaker 1>our hearts broken and we all heal. Yeah, so you're

0:44:54.440 --> 0:44:57.200
<v Speaker 1>not some you know people think it's it's never gonna

0:44:57.200 --> 0:45:00.400
<v Speaker 1>be okay again. It's gonna be okay again. You're everyone

0:45:00.440 --> 0:45:02.480
<v Speaker 1>just survives this. There's not a lot of people who

0:45:02.480 --> 0:45:04.360
<v Speaker 1>haven't been in love or haven't had their heart broken.

0:45:04.600 --> 0:45:07.399
<v Speaker 1>It happens a lot, and I think welcoming the pain

0:45:07.520 --> 0:45:10.680
<v Speaker 1>is a great idea to think about. Welcome it. The

0:45:10.760 --> 0:45:13.279
<v Speaker 1>sooner you go through it, the sooner it is out

0:45:13.320 --> 0:45:15.799
<v Speaker 1>of you, and the sooner the next adventure is right

0:45:15.840 --> 0:45:18.480
<v Speaker 1>around the corner. Yeah, so welcome it, bring it in,

0:45:18.719 --> 0:45:20.520
<v Speaker 1>let it run through you, and then you're going to

0:45:20.560 --> 0:45:21.799
<v Speaker 1>be moving on. Yeah.

0:45:21.840 --> 0:45:24.080
<v Speaker 2>And you you said something like this when we were

0:45:24.080 --> 0:45:26.359
<v Speaker 2>talking to him as well. But one of my girlfriends says,

0:45:26.400 --> 0:45:30.200
<v Speaker 2>rejection is protection, and that's exactly what the situation feels

0:45:30.239 --> 0:45:30.600
<v Speaker 2>like to me.

0:45:31.120 --> 0:45:32.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I agree with that.

0:45:33.480 --> 0:45:34.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, should we take another caller.

0:45:35.520 --> 0:45:39.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, hey, yeah, yeah, I like our one on one episodes.

0:45:39.600 --> 0:45:40.640
<v Speaker 2>No, they're kind of fun.

0:45:41.160 --> 0:45:42.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we can really get down.

0:45:42.360 --> 0:45:50.319
<v Speaker 2>To business, Yes, exactly, get gran yellow with people. This

0:45:50.360 --> 0:45:54.320
<v Speaker 2>call is from Maggie. She says, Dear Chelsea, in the

0:45:54.360 --> 0:45:56.960
<v Speaker 2>spring of twenty sixteen, I had to end a toxic

0:45:57.040 --> 0:45:59.759
<v Speaker 2>friendship with someone I had considered a best friend and

0:45:59.800 --> 0:46:03.520
<v Speaker 2>so of six years let's call her Amanda. Amanda had

0:46:03.560 --> 0:46:07.400
<v Speaker 2>been exhibiting problematic, manipulative, and abusive behavior towards me and

0:46:07.520 --> 0:46:09.880
<v Speaker 2>others that I had been clocking for a while and

0:46:09.920 --> 0:46:13.480
<v Speaker 2>could no longer handle or tolerate in my life. Ultimately,

0:46:13.560 --> 0:46:16.719
<v Speaker 2>I've not regretted this decision, except for genuinely missing her

0:46:16.800 --> 0:46:18.480
<v Speaker 2>and the best of times we had in the past.

0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:21.080
<v Speaker 2>But I've completely moved on and I'm so happy in

0:46:21.120 --> 0:46:24.439
<v Speaker 2>the friendships I have kept and cultivated before and since then,

0:46:25.239 --> 0:46:28.520
<v Speaker 2>things have been relatively easy to navigate, minus one mild

0:46:28.600 --> 0:46:30.960
<v Speaker 2>run in at an event, especially since I have the

0:46:30.960 --> 0:46:33.800
<v Speaker 2>positive mindset about my decision and hold no hard feelings

0:46:33.840 --> 0:46:37.400
<v Speaker 2>towards Amanda. I genuinely wish are the best. Until now,

0:46:37.840 --> 0:46:40.399
<v Speaker 2>our mutual best friend is getting married and we will

0:46:40.400 --> 0:46:43.880
<v Speaker 2>be attending the same bridal party events together. Now, I

0:46:43.920 --> 0:46:45.840
<v Speaker 2>don't know how it can be more clear to everyone

0:46:45.840 --> 0:46:48.759
<v Speaker 2>that it's all good. We chill, at least on my end,

0:46:49.080 --> 0:46:51.080
<v Speaker 2>but the bride to bee has asked me if things

0:46:51.120 --> 0:46:54.200
<v Speaker 2>will be awkward and uncomfortable. Of course not, is my answer,

0:46:54.239 --> 0:46:57.320
<v Speaker 2>but I can see it's weighing on her. I can't

0:46:57.360 --> 0:46:59.719
<v Speaker 2>help but think that Amanda has mentioned something or given

0:46:59.719 --> 0:47:02.560
<v Speaker 2>them impression to the bride that things could be uncomfortable.

0:47:02.800 --> 0:47:05.840
<v Speaker 2>The bride has always been very conscious of not mentioning

0:47:05.920 --> 0:47:07.520
<v Speaker 2>us to the other, which I have told her a

0:47:07.560 --> 0:47:11.120
<v Speaker 2>few times is not necessary because I'm frickin' good. To

0:47:11.160 --> 0:47:13.560
<v Speaker 2>ease the bride's nerves, I have offered to reach out

0:47:13.600 --> 0:47:16.239
<v Speaker 2>to Amanda and say hello and gently let her know

0:47:16.360 --> 0:47:18.640
<v Speaker 2>everything is good on my end, and I look forward

0:47:18.680 --> 0:47:20.640
<v Speaker 2>to enjoying the events leading up to the wedding together

0:47:20.719 --> 0:47:24.840
<v Speaker 2>in an amicable fashion. However, I'm finding the words to

0:47:24.880 --> 0:47:28.040
<v Speaker 2>be really difficult to get down in a draft. Amanda

0:47:28.080 --> 0:47:31.759
<v Speaker 2>is an incredibly sensitive and intelligent person whose ability to

0:47:31.800 --> 0:47:35.360
<v Speaker 2>pick apart a well meaning message and its unsaid quote

0:47:35.360 --> 0:47:40.480
<v Speaker 2>potential demeaning nature is astounding. Her superpower is to take

0:47:40.480 --> 0:47:43.440
<v Speaker 2>offense to anyone who even breathes wrong around her, and

0:47:43.480 --> 0:47:46.160
<v Speaker 2>that's what worries me. If I don't choose my words

0:47:46.200 --> 0:47:49.400
<v Speaker 2>ever so carefully. Instead of diffusing and creating a positive

0:47:49.480 --> 0:47:52.200
<v Speaker 2>environment for the bride, things will be awkward and tense

0:47:52.239 --> 0:47:55.160
<v Speaker 2>because she's incapable of letting go and letting these special

0:47:55.239 --> 0:47:58.719
<v Speaker 2>days be about someone else. Please help Maggie.

0:47:59.160 --> 0:48:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Hi, Maggie, Hi, Chelsea, Hi, good, this is Catherine. Who

0:48:03.760 --> 0:48:05.480
<v Speaker 1>you know? How are you? Yeah?

0:48:05.520 --> 0:48:06.520
<v Speaker 2>I got there? Good?

0:48:06.600 --> 0:48:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Thank you?

0:48:07.040 --> 0:48:07.800
<v Speaker 5>How about yourself?

0:48:08.000 --> 0:48:11.279
<v Speaker 1>We're good, We're good. Okay, so this is a good situation. Well,

0:48:11.360 --> 0:48:13.720
<v Speaker 1>let's write this letter together. First of all, my question

0:48:13.880 --> 0:48:17.360
<v Speaker 1>is what is her relationship with the bride these days?

0:48:17.719 --> 0:48:19.799
<v Speaker 1>Is the bride aware of her toxicity?

0:48:20.320 --> 0:48:23.120
<v Speaker 5>I don't think that she's aware. They're still fairly close friends.

0:48:23.480 --> 0:48:26.160
<v Speaker 5>The bride and I, I think spend more time together

0:48:26.320 --> 0:48:29.600
<v Speaker 5>and we're a little bit closer. But the bride she's

0:48:29.680 --> 0:48:32.520
<v Speaker 5>just the sweetest person, and so I think she is

0:48:32.680 --> 0:48:36.560
<v Speaker 5>tolerant of a little bit more kind of toxic behavior.

0:48:36.160 --> 0:48:37.320
<v Speaker 1>That this girl has shown.

0:48:37.400 --> 0:48:39.200
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and I was kind of snapped out of it

0:48:39.239 --> 0:48:41.280
<v Speaker 5>a few years ago, but they're still close.

0:48:41.800 --> 0:48:44.560
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So when did your relationship end with this woman?

0:48:44.840 --> 0:48:45.800
<v Speaker 5>Twenty sixteen.

0:48:46.400 --> 0:48:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh, so it's been a while.

0:48:47.920 --> 0:48:51.200
<v Speaker 5>It's been a really long time. So I'm very good

0:48:51.239 --> 0:48:53.920
<v Speaker 5>where I'm at. There's been one or two times where

0:48:54.120 --> 0:48:57.120
<v Speaker 5>the ex friend has either tried to reach out to

0:48:57.160 --> 0:49:01.200
<v Speaker 5>me through the bride or another mutual friend, maybe trying

0:49:01.239 --> 0:49:03.120
<v Speaker 5>to rekindle things. But I've kind of said, you know,

0:49:03.200 --> 0:49:05.440
<v Speaker 5>enough time has passed and I like, I'm a.

0:49:05.480 --> 0:49:08.759
<v Speaker 1>Good Okay, you sound good. Listen everything you wrote in

0:49:08.760 --> 0:49:11.799
<v Speaker 1>that letter, you sound totally healthy and with it. So

0:49:11.960 --> 0:49:13.799
<v Speaker 1>let's just phrase how you're going to put this right.

0:49:13.880 --> 0:49:15.640
<v Speaker 1>I think you just make it all about your friend

0:49:16.120 --> 0:49:19.000
<v Speaker 1>that's getting married. Yeah, this is about her. I want

0:49:19.000 --> 0:49:20.919
<v Speaker 1>the focus to be on her. I have no ill

0:49:20.960 --> 0:49:23.719
<v Speaker 1>will towards you, and I'm looking forward to spending this

0:49:23.760 --> 0:49:25.080
<v Speaker 1>time with you. I think we're all going to have

0:49:25.120 --> 0:49:27.960
<v Speaker 1>a great time. Yeah right. I think short and sweet

0:49:28.000 --> 0:49:29.560
<v Speaker 1>is the best way so that she can't go in

0:49:29.600 --> 0:49:30.640
<v Speaker 1>and parse your language.

0:49:31.280 --> 0:49:33.839
<v Speaker 5>Yes, short and sweet, keep it positive, keep it about

0:49:33.880 --> 0:49:34.440
<v Speaker 5>the bride.

0:49:34.640 --> 0:49:37.240
<v Speaker 1>Okay, great, So what are you thinking about writing?

0:49:37.719 --> 0:49:37.919
<v Speaker 2>Hey?

0:49:38.080 --> 0:49:42.279
<v Speaker 5>I hope you're doing well. I'm so happy for our friends. Yes,

0:49:42.760 --> 0:49:45.680
<v Speaker 5>we know that moving forward we will be seeing some

0:49:45.800 --> 0:49:48.839
<v Speaker 5>of each other and just want to reach out and

0:49:48.880 --> 0:49:51.920
<v Speaker 5>say looking forward to having a really great time and

0:49:51.960 --> 0:49:54.719
<v Speaker 5>making it just about the bride, you know, and we

0:49:54.760 --> 0:49:56.640
<v Speaker 5>can enjoy ourselves too.

0:49:57.360 --> 0:49:59.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, I think everything you said is perfect. But

0:49:59.800 --> 0:50:02.000
<v Speaker 1>don't I don't say making it just about the bride

0:50:02.040 --> 0:50:04.520
<v Speaker 1>because that implies that there's tension. So I think you

0:50:04.560 --> 0:50:07.200
<v Speaker 1>should say I can't wait to celebrate her with you,

0:50:07.400 --> 0:50:09.480
<v Speaker 1>and I think we're all gonna and I'm looking forward

0:50:09.520 --> 0:50:12.120
<v Speaker 1>to having a great weekend and I just wanted to touch

0:50:12.040 --> 0:50:13.880
<v Speaker 1>base so that you know that I'm coming with a

0:50:13.880 --> 0:50:16.440
<v Speaker 1>heart full of love something like that, you know, And

0:50:18.040 --> 0:50:19.080
<v Speaker 1>I like that. Yeah.

0:50:19.120 --> 0:50:21.840
<v Speaker 2>I think Chelsea is right too, you know, especially because

0:50:21.880 --> 0:50:24.200
<v Speaker 2>this friend has reached out and made an attempt at

0:50:24.280 --> 0:50:27.279
<v Speaker 2>rekindling a relationship. You don't have to do that, but

0:50:27.320 --> 0:50:29.920
<v Speaker 2>I think Chelsea's right to be like, you know what,

0:50:30.040 --> 0:50:32.600
<v Speaker 2>let's go and have a great time. It doesn't mean

0:50:32.600 --> 0:50:35.319
<v Speaker 2>you have to become best friends with her again, being like, hey,

0:50:35.400 --> 0:50:37.839
<v Speaker 2>we're going to have a good time together at this event.

0:50:37.880 --> 0:50:39.719
<v Speaker 2>You know you're going to be at together. I think

0:50:39.800 --> 0:50:40.920
<v Speaker 2>it's safe.

0:50:40.719 --> 0:50:44.319
<v Speaker 5>Right, So not delving too much into the past or

0:50:44.360 --> 0:50:47.960
<v Speaker 5>focusing no, no, I know things have been Just keep

0:50:48.000 --> 0:50:49.800
<v Speaker 5>it for twenty sixteen.

0:50:49.880 --> 0:50:52.640
<v Speaker 1>You're talking about like seven years, you know what I mean,

0:50:52.800 --> 0:50:55.640
<v Speaker 1>don't even bring it up. Just move forward because who knows. Listen,

0:50:55.719 --> 0:50:57.839
<v Speaker 1>she might be different too. You don't know if she's

0:50:57.840 --> 0:51:00.239
<v Speaker 1>been to therapy and it has some self awareness now,

0:51:00.360 --> 0:51:02.520
<v Speaker 1>or if she's changed. So don't assume that she's the

0:51:02.560 --> 0:51:05.719
<v Speaker 1>same person she was. Absolutely, even if it comes up

0:51:06.000 --> 0:51:08.839
<v Speaker 1>at the wedding, which it shouldn't, you should be like, no, no, no, no,

0:51:08.880 --> 0:51:11.440
<v Speaker 1>this is about This is about the woman that's getting married.

0:51:11.520 --> 0:51:14.479
<v Speaker 1>This is your tribute to her. You're writing this letter

0:51:14.600 --> 0:51:17.200
<v Speaker 1>because of her. You're going to have a great time

0:51:17.360 --> 0:51:20.239
<v Speaker 1>and not focus on the past because of her. Just

0:51:20.320 --> 0:51:22.480
<v Speaker 1>be in the moment that you're in, you know, and

0:51:22.600 --> 0:51:25.800
<v Speaker 1>just spread positivity in that letter. Make it short and sweet,

0:51:25.920 --> 0:51:27.360
<v Speaker 1>no longer than five sentences.

0:51:28.000 --> 0:51:29.960
<v Speaker 2>Do you still have her phone number? Or do you

0:51:29.960 --> 0:51:32.120
<v Speaker 2>follow her on social media? I would have to.

0:51:32.080 --> 0:51:35.040
<v Speaker 5>Reach out on social media. I think back, however, many

0:51:35.080 --> 0:51:38.120
<v Speaker 5>years ago it was I probably did block her number,

0:51:38.440 --> 0:51:40.879
<v Speaker 5>probably on you know, whatever social media we were using

0:51:40.920 --> 0:51:42.640
<v Speaker 5>at the time. But I think I would still be

0:51:42.719 --> 0:51:44.880
<v Speaker 5>able to reach out as like a DM or something.

0:51:45.040 --> 0:51:47.320
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Okay, I mean, I honestly would say like a

0:51:47.400 --> 0:51:50.240
<v Speaker 2>DM or a text feels less formal than an email

0:51:50.360 --> 0:51:52.920
<v Speaker 2>or something like that. So maybe because you're keeping it

0:51:52.920 --> 0:51:55.520
<v Speaker 2>short and sweet, that might feel like a less pressure

0:51:55.600 --> 0:51:58.239
<v Speaker 2>just to be like, hey girl, looking forward to celebrating

0:51:58.280 --> 0:52:01.319
<v Speaker 2>our friend with you, excited to part whatever. But I

0:52:01.360 --> 0:52:03.200
<v Speaker 2>love Chelsea what you said about like coming with a

0:52:03.200 --> 0:52:05.080
<v Speaker 2>heartful of love. It's going to be exciting.

0:52:05.520 --> 0:52:07.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're going to be just fine. You're in a

0:52:07.280 --> 0:52:10.200
<v Speaker 1>good place. You're a good person. And this woman, I

0:52:10.239 --> 0:52:12.200
<v Speaker 1>bet has changed a little bit. I don't think she's

0:52:12.200 --> 0:52:14.399
<v Speaker 1>gonna want the drama, you know. I mean a lot,

0:52:14.560 --> 0:52:16.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of time has passed.

0:52:16.360 --> 0:52:19.560
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, and if she does, you know what, you

0:52:20.000 --> 0:52:21.839
<v Speaker 2>have to know that you did the right thing and

0:52:21.920 --> 0:52:24.800
<v Speaker 2>you can't control her behavior. So if she does snipe

0:52:24.960 --> 0:52:28.360
<v Speaker 2>about it to someone else, okay, then she's going to

0:52:28.440 --> 0:52:28.680
<v Speaker 2>do that.

0:52:29.120 --> 0:52:31.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just take a higher path and then that way,

0:52:31.440 --> 0:52:33.640
<v Speaker 1>there's like you haven't done any you haven't been bad

0:52:33.680 --> 0:52:36.800
<v Speaker 1>mouthing her. You're not going to that's not your game.

0:52:37.400 --> 0:52:40.600
<v Speaker 1>And you're just there to celebrate your girlfriend and her

0:52:40.680 --> 0:52:41.319
<v Speaker 1>special day.

0:52:41.840 --> 0:52:44.560
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yes, okay, great, Well, thank you so much.

0:52:45.000 --> 0:52:47.399
<v Speaker 1>Oh, thank you. It's nice to talk to you. Good luck,

0:52:47.640 --> 0:52:48.000
<v Speaker 1>You too.

0:52:48.360 --> 0:52:49.120
<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much.

0:52:49.239 --> 0:52:50.239
<v Speaker 1>Let us know how it goes.

0:52:50.600 --> 0:52:51.799
<v Speaker 5>Oh well, thank you both.

0:52:52.440 --> 0:52:58.520
<v Speaker 2>Hi, Maggie, bye well. Our last caller is Farren. Farren

0:52:58.520 --> 0:53:01.759
<v Speaker 2>says Dear Chelsea. Years the hot Goss. I met a

0:53:01.800 --> 0:53:04.480
<v Speaker 2>guy on Hinge back in September. We had a lot

0:53:04.520 --> 0:53:07.280
<v Speaker 2>in common and it was lovely, but I wasn't feeling

0:53:07.280 --> 0:53:09.520
<v Speaker 2>it at the time. I told him I was not

0:53:09.600 --> 0:53:12.680
<v Speaker 2>interested in him romantically, and we decided to remain friends.

0:53:13.000 --> 0:53:15.239
<v Speaker 2>We attempted to make plans a couple times, but never

0:53:15.360 --> 0:53:18.480
<v Speaker 2>ended up hanging out. A while later, I realized I

0:53:18.520 --> 0:53:21.759
<v Speaker 2>had been closing myself off to potential romantic situations as

0:53:21.800 --> 0:53:25.799
<v Speaker 2>a defense mechanism. Subconsciously, I was rejecting myself first and

0:53:25.840 --> 0:53:28.479
<v Speaker 2>taking myself out of the situation before any man could

0:53:28.480 --> 0:53:32.879
<v Speaker 2>reject me. Thanks childhood conditioning. Anyway, I see things through

0:53:32.880 --> 0:53:34.520
<v Speaker 2>a different, more open hearted lens.

0:53:34.560 --> 0:53:34.799
<v Speaker 1>Now.

0:53:35.440 --> 0:53:38.319
<v Speaker 2>In December he reached back out. This is like two

0:53:38.320 --> 0:53:41.319
<v Speaker 2>months after they had originally gone out. With this new

0:53:41.360 --> 0:53:43.760
<v Speaker 2>and open mind, I decided to meet him for coffee

0:53:43.760 --> 0:53:46.279
<v Speaker 2>a few weeks ago. I had such a fun time

0:53:46.320 --> 0:53:49.440
<v Speaker 2>with him. He's easy to talk to. Where both spiritual

0:53:49.760 --> 0:53:53.200
<v Speaker 2>sit with plant medicine really into evolving, and it's really

0:53:53.239 --> 0:53:55.600
<v Speaker 2>meaningful to have someone to relate to those things about.

0:53:56.040 --> 0:53:57.920
<v Speaker 2>We ended up talking on the phone for over an

0:53:57.920 --> 0:54:01.239
<v Speaker 2>hour after the coffee hang. The problem is, now I'm

0:54:01.280 --> 0:54:03.799
<v Speaker 2>sure he sees me as just friendship vibes because I

0:54:03.840 --> 0:54:07.240
<v Speaker 2>previously told him I wasn't interested. Now I'm feeling interested

0:54:07.320 --> 0:54:09.920
<v Speaker 2>and having the option of this getting romantic down the line,

0:54:10.080 --> 0:54:13.000
<v Speaker 2>and definitely want to make out with him. However, even

0:54:13.040 --> 0:54:15.680
<v Speaker 2>though I do find him attractive, I'm not entirely certain

0:54:15.719 --> 0:54:18.080
<v Speaker 2>if I'm fully physically attracted to him or not. If

0:54:18.160 --> 0:54:21.360
<v Speaker 2>that makes sense, The question is do I say something

0:54:21.400 --> 0:54:23.799
<v Speaker 2>to him about how I'm feeling even though I don't

0:54:23.840 --> 0:54:25.480
<v Speaker 2>know if I'm one hundred percent into it or not,

0:54:26.040 --> 0:54:28.000
<v Speaker 2>or just go about being friends and leave it alone.

0:54:28.360 --> 0:54:31.319
<v Speaker 2>Who knows what may happen organically. I love you all.

0:54:31.400 --> 0:54:34.080
<v Speaker 2>This podcast is the fucking best, Chelsea. Your new Netflix

0:54:34.080 --> 0:54:38.280
<v Speaker 2>special is Bonker's hilarious. Farren Hi, Farren, Hi.

0:54:38.200 --> 0:54:44.760
<v Speaker 1>Farren Hi, thanks for having me. How are you? I'm good?

0:54:44.840 --> 0:54:45.840
<v Speaker 4>How are you guys?

0:54:45.960 --> 0:54:49.600
<v Speaker 1>We're good? Girl. I think you should go for it

0:54:49.680 --> 0:54:51.879
<v Speaker 1>and just ask him like this is a little life

0:54:51.880 --> 0:54:54.200
<v Speaker 1>situation that could turn into something great or it could

0:54:54.239 --> 0:54:56.080
<v Speaker 1>just be a blip. You're not trying to pursue a

0:54:56.120 --> 0:54:57.880
<v Speaker 1>friendship right with him.

0:54:58.360 --> 0:55:03.400
<v Speaker 7>I would so previous. I would pursue men or text

0:55:03.480 --> 0:55:05.239
<v Speaker 7>or try to make plans, but it was coming from

0:55:05.239 --> 0:55:09.480
<v Speaker 7>a very like scarcity mindset anxiety place. And now I

0:55:09.520 --> 0:55:13.160
<v Speaker 7>am really looking to be pursued. And I would continue

0:55:13.160 --> 0:55:15.120
<v Speaker 7>to be friends with him because it's nice to be

0:55:15.160 --> 0:55:18.800
<v Speaker 7>able to have these kind of deep conversations with someone

0:55:18.840 --> 0:55:21.080
<v Speaker 7>and be able to integrate with somebody who's on a

0:55:21.120 --> 0:55:24.799
<v Speaker 7>spiritual path as well. I would risk it too, but

0:55:24.840 --> 0:55:27.600
<v Speaker 7>I don't want to be in a position where I'm

0:55:27.640 --> 0:55:31.120
<v Speaker 7>doing that again, kind of pursuing, because that's not the

0:55:31.239 --> 0:55:31.879
<v Speaker 7>look I want.

0:55:31.960 --> 0:55:34.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you are though, I don't think you are.

0:55:34.320 --> 0:55:37.040
<v Speaker 1>You're judging yourself on your past behavior, not on your

0:55:37.080 --> 0:55:40.920
<v Speaker 1>present behavior. You don't have to be desperate about it.

0:55:41.000 --> 0:55:43.560
<v Speaker 1>You have to just be upfront, like, hey, I actually

0:55:43.640 --> 0:55:45.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of had like a little spark, or when you

0:55:45.960 --> 0:55:48.080
<v Speaker 1>go out again and you know, have a drink and

0:55:48.120 --> 0:55:51.160
<v Speaker 1>then see if that changes things, and you can say

0:55:51.160 --> 0:55:53.759
<v Speaker 1>it in person, just like hey, I'm feeling something. I

0:55:53.800 --> 0:55:55.799
<v Speaker 1>don't know if this is anything, but what about what

0:55:55.800 --> 0:55:59.040
<v Speaker 1>do you think that's not desperate. That's just being direct.

0:55:59.440 --> 0:56:02.000
<v Speaker 1>So make sure you know the distinction between the two.

0:56:02.120 --> 0:56:07.319
<v Speaker 1>Because your old behavior isn't relevant to this situation. We

0:56:07.400 --> 0:56:09.879
<v Speaker 1>get caught up in our past behavior instead of saying

0:56:10.000 --> 0:56:12.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm not like that anymore. Yeah.

0:56:12.280 --> 0:56:16.839
<v Speaker 2>I also think there are extraordinarily few straight guys who,

0:56:16.920 --> 0:56:20.720
<v Speaker 2>especially after they've expressed interest in a girl, are willing

0:56:20.760 --> 0:56:23.120
<v Speaker 2>to hang out just as friends if they're not eventually

0:56:23.200 --> 0:56:26.120
<v Speaker 2>trying to sleep with her. Like, I am sure he's

0:56:26.160 --> 0:56:27.000
<v Speaker 2>still interested.

0:56:27.480 --> 0:56:28.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I am too.

0:56:28.280 --> 0:56:30.800
<v Speaker 2>I would be shocked if he's not. And if he wasn't,

0:56:30.840 --> 0:56:33.080
<v Speaker 2>he wouldn't be going to coffee, you know, he just wouldn't.

0:56:33.120 --> 0:56:36.040
<v Speaker 2>He'd be like cool, Like just friends usually means like

0:56:36.040 --> 0:56:38.560
<v Speaker 2>I'll never see you again, especially with online dating. So

0:56:39.120 --> 0:56:40.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't think you have to worry about like, oh no,

0:56:41.040 --> 0:56:44.000
<v Speaker 2>he sees me as just a friend. No, flirt hard,

0:56:44.520 --> 0:56:46.480
<v Speaker 2>tell him you're into him. See what happens?

0:56:47.040 --> 0:56:48.120
<v Speaker 7>How do you flirt hard?

0:56:49.600 --> 0:56:53.120
<v Speaker 2>Touching on the hand, touching on the arm, basically what

0:56:53.160 --> 0:56:54.480
<v Speaker 2>I do with Chelsea where in person?

0:56:54.560 --> 0:57:00.279
<v Speaker 1>I just I mean, yeah, just go. That was such

0:57:00.320 --> 0:57:03.400
<v Speaker 1>a fun conversation. I really dug it, you know, or

0:57:03.440 --> 0:57:05.399
<v Speaker 1>whatever your language is, you know, what I mean, how

0:57:05.760 --> 0:57:07.600
<v Speaker 1>just go? That was really fun. I was kind of

0:57:07.600 --> 0:57:10.560
<v Speaker 1>surprised by how I felt when I left there. I

0:57:10.600 --> 0:57:13.120
<v Speaker 1>don't know, are you interested even if he says no,

0:57:13.280 --> 0:57:17.720
<v Speaker 1>which she's not going to. If he says no, who cares? Great? Okay,

0:57:17.800 --> 0:57:19.600
<v Speaker 1>check that and then you can be friends with him

0:57:19.640 --> 0:57:22.320
<v Speaker 1>if that's fine with you. But it's not a big deal.

0:57:22.720 --> 0:57:27.520
<v Speaker 1>It's a good exercise as a woman to demonstrate directness

0:57:27.920 --> 0:57:30.600
<v Speaker 1>and in a gentle, you know, kind of sexy way.

0:57:30.880 --> 0:57:33.800
<v Speaker 1>You can be flirty about it, and then that's your

0:57:33.840 --> 0:57:36.240
<v Speaker 1>new thing. Say he says no, then it's like, okay, great,

0:57:36.280 --> 0:57:38.360
<v Speaker 1>well we can still be friends, you know what I mean?

0:57:38.480 --> 0:57:40.480
<v Speaker 1>And then you can if you want, and if not,

0:57:41.120 --> 0:57:43.600
<v Speaker 1>something might happen with you, guys. And the other option

0:57:43.720 --> 0:57:45.400
<v Speaker 1>is that you know you will like him and that

0:57:45.480 --> 0:57:49.080
<v Speaker 1>you are attracted to him. It's totally normal to gain

0:57:49.120 --> 0:57:51.720
<v Speaker 1>attraction to somebody talking to them more, you know, and

0:57:51.760 --> 0:57:54.560
<v Speaker 1>having a real deep, meaningful conversation. Yeah.

0:57:54.680 --> 0:57:57.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I know you had mentioned that he's out

0:57:57.080 --> 0:57:59.320
<v Speaker 2>of town so you hadn't heard from him. But it's

0:57:59.320 --> 0:58:01.840
<v Speaker 2>also like friend, so why would he call? Like make

0:58:01.880 --> 0:58:03.760
<v Speaker 2>the next move be the next one to be like, hey,

0:58:03.840 --> 0:58:06.240
<v Speaker 2>let's go out again. Maybe let's grab a cocktail. That

0:58:06.320 --> 0:58:08.160
<v Speaker 2>will make it a little easier to flirt as well.

0:58:09.360 --> 0:58:10.320
<v Speaker 6>We both don't drink.

0:58:10.760 --> 0:58:11.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh well, then don't grab a car.

0:58:11.720 --> 0:58:13.040
<v Speaker 1>I knew you were going to say that. I knew

0:58:13.080 --> 0:58:14.919
<v Speaker 1>it when I said drink the first time. I could

0:58:14.920 --> 0:58:17.160
<v Speaker 1>sell by your face that you don't drink. But that's okay,

0:58:17.200 --> 0:58:19.800
<v Speaker 1>you don't need to drink. Go do whatever you do.

0:58:20.000 --> 0:58:23.640
<v Speaker 1>What do you just go to coffee yoga? What are

0:58:23.680 --> 0:58:24.120
<v Speaker 1>you in two?

0:58:24.880 --> 0:58:26.960
<v Speaker 7>Yeah? I mean I was trying to think of like

0:58:27.040 --> 0:58:29.439
<v Speaker 7>a night setting where it could be a little bit

0:58:29.520 --> 0:58:32.560
<v Speaker 7>more of a vibe, but not a bar.

0:58:33.000 --> 0:58:36.439
<v Speaker 1>Well, go listen to some live music or something. Even

0:58:36.480 --> 0:58:38.200
<v Speaker 1>if you go for a walk with somebody for a

0:58:38.240 --> 0:58:41.080
<v Speaker 1>long time. I think once you have a substantial conversation

0:58:41.160 --> 0:58:45.640
<v Speaker 1>with somebody, there's that that is the definition of chemistry, right,

0:58:46.000 --> 0:58:48.640
<v Speaker 1>And whether it's romantic or friendship, you already have the

0:58:48.720 --> 0:58:51.000
<v Speaker 1>chemistry there between each other if you guys sat and

0:58:51.040 --> 0:58:53.680
<v Speaker 1>talked for that long and then called each other afterward.

0:58:54.960 --> 0:58:57.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can also like wait a time or two

0:58:57.760 --> 0:58:59.640
<v Speaker 2>if you're not quite ready to be like, hey, I'm

0:58:59.640 --> 0:59:02.240
<v Speaker 2>super into wait a time or two. See if the

0:59:02.320 --> 0:59:05.280
<v Speaker 2>vibe sticks and take it from there. But I mean,

0:59:05.280 --> 0:59:08.360
<v Speaker 2>if you're feeling something, pursue it. You know, I agree

0:59:08.360 --> 0:59:09.920
<v Speaker 2>with Chelsea, like attraction grows.

0:59:10.000 --> 0:59:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, don't put so much weight on this situation. This

0:59:13.040 --> 0:59:15.080
<v Speaker 1>is one guy in a sea of and this is

0:59:15.080 --> 0:59:16.920
<v Speaker 1>one moment in your life. This is not the end

0:59:16.920 --> 0:59:19.880
<v Speaker 1>all be all, so don't think of it as such

0:59:20.040 --> 0:59:23.920
<v Speaker 1>an important thing. It's not. And if it's supposed to

0:59:23.920 --> 0:59:27.080
<v Speaker 1>be something and it grows into something, then you're gonna

0:59:27.080 --> 0:59:29.440
<v Speaker 1>be really happy that you did that. Thank you for

0:59:29.520 --> 0:59:33.960
<v Speaker 1>the clarity. That was awesome. Yeah, okay, great, good luck

0:59:33.960 --> 0:59:35.080
<v Speaker 1>and let us know what happens.

0:59:35.320 --> 0:59:36.680
<v Speaker 7>Thanks so much, thank you.

0:59:37.240 --> 0:59:39.320
<v Speaker 1>Okay, bye, fair and happy dating.

0:59:40.040 --> 0:59:40.480
<v Speaker 4>Bye.

0:59:41.160 --> 0:59:42.160
<v Speaker 2>She's so cute.

0:59:42.320 --> 0:59:44.240
<v Speaker 1>I know. I wish everyone just go for it. Everyone

0:59:44.240 --> 0:59:47.080
<v Speaker 1>needs to just go for things. Take a chance, take

0:59:47.120 --> 0:59:49.960
<v Speaker 1>a risk. It doesn't matter. So if somebody rejects you,

0:59:49.960 --> 0:59:52.080
<v Speaker 1>who gives a shit? It's like onto the next.

0:59:52.680 --> 0:59:56.920
<v Speaker 2>YEP. When I was in my early twenties or my

0:59:57.040 --> 0:59:59.360
<v Speaker 2>late teens, I guess I went through here and where

0:59:59.400 --> 1:00:01.000
<v Speaker 2>I just like, I'll like, I'm just gonna ask how

1:00:01.040 --> 1:00:02.880
<v Speaker 2>every guy that I find is cute half of them

1:00:02.880 --> 1:00:04.720
<v Speaker 2>turned out to be gay, which was like even better

1:00:04.760 --> 1:00:06.840
<v Speaker 2>because then I made a bunch of friends. But I

1:00:06.880 --> 1:00:08.720
<v Speaker 2>was just like, I'm just gonna ask people out to coffee.

1:00:08.760 --> 1:00:11.760
<v Speaker 2>And it was just so much fun just to be like, hey,

1:00:11.880 --> 1:00:15.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to take control of this. It was great. Yeah. Great, Well,

1:00:16.000 --> 1:00:18.439
<v Speaker 2>let's take a quick break, Chelsea, and we'll come back

1:00:18.520 --> 1:00:27.840
<v Speaker 2>to wrap up. Okay, and we're back back, and actually,

1:00:28.000 --> 1:00:29.480
<v Speaker 2>I do have one other quick question.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's do a quick question.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I will give you a choice because I don't

1:00:33.320 --> 1:00:35.400
<v Speaker 2>know if this one's a little tiggy. But there is

1:00:35.440 --> 1:00:39.000
<v Speaker 2>one about skid marks. And there is also another one

1:00:39.040 --> 1:00:43.000
<v Speaker 2>about should I tell the wife if someone said something

1:00:43.080 --> 1:00:43.520
<v Speaker 2>lude to.

1:00:43.480 --> 1:00:44.960
<v Speaker 1>Me skid marks?

1:00:45.000 --> 1:00:46.880
<v Speaker 2>What questions about marks?

1:00:47.040 --> 1:00:48.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but what's the question?

1:00:49.520 --> 1:00:52.320
<v Speaker 2>So her boyfriend is leaving skid marks everywhere?

1:00:52.920 --> 1:00:55.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh god, no, do the other one. I can't.

1:00:56.040 --> 1:00:57.640
<v Speaker 2>That's kind of what I figured. I was like, it's

1:00:57.680 --> 1:00:58.360
<v Speaker 2>pretty gross.

1:00:58.720 --> 1:00:59.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh gross.

1:01:01.680 --> 1:01:04.800
<v Speaker 2>She's wondering if it's a deal breaker. I'm like, it's yeah,

1:01:05.080 --> 1:01:10.480
<v Speaker 2>sort of, yeah, kind of okay, giving them everywhere.

1:01:10.000 --> 1:01:12.720
<v Speaker 1>Where in the kitchen, like where's the eaving?

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<v Speaker 2>Can't me just read it?

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<v Speaker 5>All?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>But let's do the other one to close it out,

1:01:16.560 --> 1:01:17.600
<v Speaker 1>because this is so gross.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so poppy, says. My boyfriend and I have been

1:01:21.560 --> 1:01:23.880
<v Speaker 2>in a long distance relationship for the last three years.

1:01:24.080 --> 1:01:24.760
<v Speaker 1>Thank god.

1:01:25.760 --> 1:01:28.160
<v Speaker 2>We're both in our early to mid thirties and are

1:01:28.200 --> 1:01:31.600
<v Speaker 2>planning our future together. He's my best friend, true partner,

1:01:31.680 --> 1:01:34.200
<v Speaker 2>and biggest supporter. I can talk to him about anything

1:01:34.240 --> 1:01:36.640
<v Speaker 2>and can be one hundred percent myself around him. But

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<v Speaker 2>I need help navigating a delicate situation. My boyfriend constantly

1:01:42.200 --> 1:01:46.160
<v Speaker 2>leaves poop skid marks around the house. I understand if

1:01:46.160 --> 1:01:47.760
<v Speaker 2>this happens after anal play, but.

1:01:47.640 --> 1:01:51.760
<v Speaker 1>That's not around the house. What does that mean goes

1:01:51.840 --> 1:01:52.440
<v Speaker 1>into it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's worse than you think.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I not.

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<v Speaker 2>The first time it happened. It was over a year ago.

1:02:00.120 --> 1:02:02.600
<v Speaker 2>I noticed a smell and saw marks on the sheets

1:02:02.600 --> 1:02:04.840
<v Speaker 2>out of the corner of my eye. I didn't know

1:02:04.840 --> 1:02:07.520
<v Speaker 2>what it was at first and asked, what's that. When

1:02:07.520 --> 1:02:09.760
<v Speaker 2>he saw what it was, he got super embarrassed and

1:02:09.800 --> 1:02:13.720
<v Speaker 2>apologized profusely. I, of course was understanding. It didn't draw

1:02:13.760 --> 1:02:16.960
<v Speaker 2>extra attention or make the situation worse. I simply changed

1:02:17.000 --> 1:02:19.320
<v Speaker 2>the sheets while he was in the bathroom cleaning himself up.

1:02:19.800 --> 1:02:22.120
<v Speaker 2>The same thing happened during his next visit, but this

1:02:22.240 --> 1:02:25.440
<v Speaker 2>time it got on my expensive duvet. I was grossed

1:02:25.440 --> 1:02:27.880
<v Speaker 2>out and ended up buying a new one. Another time,

1:02:27.920 --> 1:02:29.959
<v Speaker 2>he got a mark on my new couch one week

1:02:30.000 --> 1:02:31.240
<v Speaker 2>after purchasing it.

1:02:32.280 --> 1:02:33.800
<v Speaker 1>Sitting naked on the couch.

1:02:33.960 --> 1:02:36.680
<v Speaker 2>That's what I can't get past. I'm like, he's got

1:02:36.680 --> 1:02:37.720
<v Speaker 2>to put on some underwear.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, he needs to put on two pairs

1:02:39.480 --> 1:02:40.080
<v Speaker 1>of underwear.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, there are now countless examples of this happening, and

1:02:44.160 --> 1:02:47.160
<v Speaker 2>I can't take it anymore. The situation has started to

1:02:47.200 --> 1:02:50.320
<v Speaker 2>impact our sex life. Anytime his crouches near my face

1:02:50.400 --> 1:02:54.160
<v Speaker 2>during Bja's sixty nine ing sexy dancing during foreplay, I

1:02:54.200 --> 1:02:56.520
<v Speaker 2>am thinking about his poop and get turned off.

1:02:57.360 --> 1:03:01.720
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Chelsea, this is so so disturbing. Something's wrong. He

1:03:01.880 --> 1:03:04.360
<v Speaker 1>has to go. First of all, I learned this. There

1:03:04.360 --> 1:03:08.120
<v Speaker 1>are two sphincter holes. Okay, so I learned this on

1:03:08.160 --> 1:03:11.360
<v Speaker 1>a gay video about anal sex. There's some sort of

1:03:11.400 --> 1:03:13.840
<v Speaker 1>medical condition for what's happening to him. He shouldn't be

1:03:13.960 --> 1:03:16.400
<v Speaker 1>leaving skid marks everywhere he goes. You have to have

1:03:16.440 --> 1:03:19.080
<v Speaker 1>an honest conversation with him and nip it in the butt.

1:03:19.160 --> 1:03:21.960
<v Speaker 1>This is so gross and no one needs to deal

1:03:22.000 --> 1:03:24.280
<v Speaker 1>with skid marks other than the person who's leaving them,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. Of course it's affecting your

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<v Speaker 1>sex life. Of course, you can't sixty nine somebody if

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<v Speaker 1>you think there's shit coming out of their asshole. Fuck.

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<v Speaker 2>I also want to know what sexy dancing has his

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<v Speaker 2>ask near your face. I'm just really excited about that,

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<v Speaker 2>So I agree. I mean, if you've had a conversation

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<v Speaker 2>about like are you wiping appropriately? I mean you could

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<v Speaker 2>just like leave some cottonelle wipes in the bathroom that

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<v Speaker 2>might help to but you do have to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you have to tell him. It doesn't matter if

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<v Speaker 1>he's embarrassed. It's about fixing the problem because there could

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<v Speaker 1>be like some sort of reason for this. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think it there is because it's not natural or

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<v Speaker 1>he's not wiping properly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I feel like if he's not wiping properly,

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<v Speaker 2>then he wouldn't be that embarrassed. So like maybe it

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<v Speaker 2>is like a little leagy medical issue. Oh you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like maybe he's wiping fine, but then he's got a

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<v Speaker 2>litt leak happening, so he should talk to his doctor

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<v Speaker 2>for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm not that kind of doctor. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>about assholes.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Poppy, we wish you the best of luck. And also,

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<v Speaker 2>just like, have your boyfriend put on underwear in your

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<v Speaker 2>house it's.

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<v Speaker 1>While you're having sex. Make him wear underwear while you're

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<v Speaker 1>having sex.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe up a shower before four play?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe yeah, washing his asshole all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe only shower sex from now on?

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<v Speaker 1>Can we add on a better note than this? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you have another one?

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<v Speaker 2>We can't? Chelsea?

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<v Speaker 1>That was upsetting for her. I'm sorry, No, I'm so sorry. Okay, So,

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<v Speaker 1>dear Chelsea, I'm a big fan here. I'm a twenty

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<v Speaker 1>nine year old female working.

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<v Speaker 2>As a waitress. I waited recently on an older couple

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<v Speaker 2>sixty five or seventy five years old, and they seemed normal,

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<v Speaker 2>But when the wife stepped outside to take a phone call,

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<v Speaker 2>the husband or maybe he was her friend or brother,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no way to know, got weird. He called me

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<v Speaker 2>over to ask me a question, but then decided not to. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>weird but whatever. Then he continued to stare at me

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<v Speaker 2>as I was cleaning and waiting on the surrounding tables.

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<v Speaker 2>The wife returns, she pays, and he goes to the bathroom.

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<v Speaker 2>When he returned, I was at the computer putting in

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<v Speaker 2>an order when he got too close for comfort and

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<v Speaker 2>whispered something so vulgar to me it stopped me in

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<v Speaker 2>my tracks. All I could do was wave him away,

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<v Speaker 2>as I'm not a confrontational person and the owner of

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<v Speaker 2>the restaurant was sitting at the bar. They left shortly after.

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<v Speaker 2>As I was cleaning the perverts table, I noticed that

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<v Speaker 2>his wife, question Mark, had filled out the receipt to

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<v Speaker 2>sign up for our rewards program with her email. My

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<v Speaker 2>question is should I make a fake email and contact

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<v Speaker 2>her to tell her this guy as a sicko and

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<v Speaker 2>as a worthless pile of trash. I know it won't

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<v Speaker 2>really do anything, but god, it would feel so good.

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<v Speaker 2>This type of thing hasn't happened since I was twenty,

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<v Speaker 2>and I always said if it happened again, I would

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<v Speaker 2>ruin their day. And I bitched out again. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's the worst part. What should I do? Emily?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think it sounds like you're going to have

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity to say something to his face, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's the move, not saying something to his wife,

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<v Speaker 1>because what's the point of that. That's kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>cop out too, emailing her anonymously. I mean, a that's inappropriate.

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<v Speaker 1>He can't talk to you like that. Whatever he said

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<v Speaker 1>that was vulgar is not appropriate. And so I think

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<v Speaker 1>if they signed up for your rewards program, you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to see him again, and I think you should get

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<v Speaker 1>it straight in your head exactly what you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>say the next time, and also just don't wait on

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<v Speaker 1>them again. But I don't think you need to like

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<v Speaker 1>get involved with their marriage. I mean, he's gross. He's

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<v Speaker 1>probably been gross for a long time and she probably

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<v Speaker 1>does know. No, that's a good point, but if it

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<v Speaker 1>does happen again in person, just get something ready to say,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you could say it in front of him

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<v Speaker 1>and his wife if you want to, or you could

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<v Speaker 1>say to him person, or you can talk to your

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<v Speaker 1>manager about what you're going to say, and that you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to wait on them. I know what it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like to cop out and not say the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that you want to say and defend yourself. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you just have to wait for the moment to arise again,

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<v Speaker 1>and it kind of sounds like it will unfortunately, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you can say something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, agreed, I would talk to your manager and let

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<v Speaker 2>them know what happens, and your manager might say, fine,

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<v Speaker 2>then we'll ask them to leave next time they come.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think there's nothing wrong with if someone whispers

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<v Speaker 2>something shitty in your ear, saying loudly to them that like,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not appropriate and I can't believe you said that

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<v Speaker 2>to me, and please leave, even if it's your workplace.

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<v Speaker 2>But also like giving your manager a heads up about

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<v Speaker 2>that ahead of time, we'll probably save your ass a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit with them. All right, Well, Chelsea Catherine, we

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<v Speaker 2>did the Lord's work today.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, God, God, Now I'm going to go ski and

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, just let let this all roll off

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<v Speaker 1>my back like a water with duck or whatever the

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<v Speaker 1>fuck that's saying is exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Like water off a duck's back, exactly precisely.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk talk talk, good goose, Bye bye. Don't forget to

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<v Speaker 1>watch my special on Netflix, you guys. Revolution, it's a revolution. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going back on tour. Everybody. I have a new tour.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called a little big Bitch because I'm a little

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<v Speaker 1>big bitch and I always have been. Sometimes well now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a big little bitch. No, I'm still a little

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<v Speaker 1>big bitch. Whatever. Anyway, I'm going back on tour. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>warming up my new one hour that I have to

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<v Speaker 1>create from scratch, but I have some very strong ideas.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be at Zanies Nashville March twenty nine

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<v Speaker 1>through Sunday April six, and then Irvine improv and then

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<v Speaker 1>I have dates theater dates everywhere from Peoria, Illinois, Carmel, Calamus, Zeus, Spokane, Washington, Boise, Idaho, Vegas, Highland, California, Tulsa, Oklahoma,

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<v Speaker 1>and more and more and more. So go to Chelsea

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<v Speaker 2>A note on our segment calling in Back Up with

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<v Speaker 2>Better Help. David Yaddish's input is general psychological information based

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<v Speaker 2>on research and experience. It's intended to be general and

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<v Speaker 2>informational in nature. It does not represent or indicate an

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<v Speaker 2>established clinical or professional relationship with those inquiring for guidance.

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<v Speaker 2>David's feedback is in response to a written question, and

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<v Speaker 2>therefore there are likely unknown considerations given the limited context. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>just because you might hear something on the show that

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<v Speaker 2>sounds similar to what you're experiencing, beware of self diagnosis.

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<v Speaker 2>Diagnosis is not required to find relief, and you'll want

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<v Speaker 2>to find a qualified professional to assess and to explore

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<v Speaker 2>diagnoses if that's important to you. If you or your

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<v Speaker 2>partner or in crisis and uncertain of whether you can

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<v Speaker 2>maintain safety, please reach out for support to crisis hotlines

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<v Speaker 2>or local authorities have a safety plan and that can

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<v Speaker 2>be done with a therapist too, So if you'd like

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<v Speaker 2>advice from Chelsea, just send us an email at Dear

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<v Speaker 2>Chelsea podcast at gmail dot com. Dear Chelsea is a

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<v Speaker 2>Catherine Law, and edited and engineered by Brad Dickert.