1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:01,840 Speaker 1: Hi, Casey, what's happening? 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 2: Hi? Millie. It's so good to see you again, it 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 2: really is. It's good to see you. It's good to 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: hear you. It's good to be in each other's presences. 5 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 2: This is a romantic episode we're about to talk about, Millie. 6 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 2: It's thrilling romance baby coming up in this episode. We're 7 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 2: gonna do another installment of our film diary segment, and 8 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 2: I believe we're gonna be talking about some romantic movies. 9 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: Isn't that right, Millie? 10 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna do a thing where Casey and I 11 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: are both gonna pick our top three favorite romantic films. 12 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 2: Right, that's right. And Mill's got another game for me. 13 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 2: She tried to stump me last time with her. Actually 14 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 2: I didn't stup you at all, Dixie dream Girl trivia, 15 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: and it didn't work. She didn't jump stump me. 16 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: Oh, I through the soft of softballs at you this time, though. 17 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: Bet you're gonna fucking cry, You're gonna You're gonna fail it. 18 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: I just know it. 19 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 2: We'll see, we'll see. You don't know, you don't know. 20 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: Uh, it's gonna be a great episode, don't you think 21 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: I know? 22 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 2: It's gonna be a great episode. 23 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: Yes, we are gonna be in love with this episode 24 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: for sure, and hope that you are too. On this 25 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: episode of Dear Movies, I Love You. 26 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 3: Dear, I love you, and I've got to know you 27 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 3: love me to check the box. 28 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome to another episode of Dear Movies, I 29 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: Love You. This is the podcast where we talk about 30 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: movies as if they were our romantic partners and whatnot. 31 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: My name is Millie to Jericho. 32 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 2: That's right, and in case your brain the other host, yes, 33 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 2: I mean it's very apropos We're talking about love, we're 34 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 2: talking about romance, and this is a podcast all about 35 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 2: our love and romantic feelings towards movies. So it's very 36 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 2: simpatico with the theme of today's show. But we have 37 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 2: a great show today. Millie, I'm so thrilled to be 38 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 2: talking about romantic movies. But first we must get into 39 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: our film diary. We have to open up our diaries 40 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 2: and read aloud our innermost thoughts, basically just pertaining to 41 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 2: the movies we watched. But what movies have you seen 42 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 2: in the past week or so? 43 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: Hold on, I'm unlocking my diary with the tiniest little key. 44 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: Yep. And the key is on a necklace around your neck. 45 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 2: Is that correct? 46 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: And the key is so flimsy that it sometimes bends 47 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: in the lock and then you're just like you have 48 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: to pop it open with like a pen or something. 49 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: All right, it's open now, Okay. So this week I 50 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: rewatched Slow or the One hundred and Twenty Days of 51 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: Sodom by Pierre Paulo Pasolini. Very not for the faint 52 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: of heart, very notorious film. As you know. 53 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 2: I would say it's in the top five most notorious 54 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,399 Speaker 2: films of all time, wouldn't you say. I would argue 55 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 2: out there, I. 56 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: Would argue it's number one. 57 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 2: It could be number one. That's not a crazy thing 58 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 2: to say. 59 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: That's not crazy. Let me tell you right now. I 60 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: have not seen Solo since the late nineties. I mean 61 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: I watched it pretty much when I was in film 62 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: school because it was again, it was like this, it 63 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: feels like it feels like an achievement or something. When 64 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: you've watched it for the first time, you're like, oh, 65 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: I went I went through some shit. Literally, okay, I 66 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: watched well here did that come out? Let us say 67 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: it's like seventy oh yeah, seventy five, seventy five, Okay, 68 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: but I saw it again. And the reason why I 69 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: saw it again is because it was playing at my 70 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: local movie theater. You know, I think we all know why, 71 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: because we have a new president in office and there 72 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: was a series that has been going on there called like, 73 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: you know, Cinema of Resistance or Resistance Cinema or something, 74 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: which is brilliant, brilliant programming by the Plaza Theater by 75 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: the way. But yeah, so I saw it in the 76 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 1: movie theater. I'm thirty five, and I mean it is 77 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: such a film like it it is. There are moments 78 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: of disgusting this I mean, obviously the whole thing is 79 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: is basically, you know, an allegory for fascism, right yeah, 80 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: And it's very intense, a lot of nudity, a lot 81 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: of you know, body fluid stuff. Obviously really crazy. However, 82 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: as an artistic statement, I gotta say it is fucking insane, 83 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: Like it is such such a big swing and I 84 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: think that's why it's number one, because it's just it 85 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 1: is literally like one of the hardest but most interesting 86 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: films I've ever seen in my life. 87 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 2: For those who haven't seen it, it is about it's 88 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 2: set in World War two and it's a group of fascists. 89 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 2: It's kind of like during wartime when people are like 90 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: kind of getting away with just doing horrible stuff. And 91 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 2: it's set it's a group of fascists round up nine 92 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,679 Speaker 2: adolescent boys and girls and subject them to one hundred 93 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 2: and twenty days of physical, mental, and sexual torture. And 94 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 2: these group of fascists are kind of like, oh, won't 95 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 2: it be interesting to do these little experiments and do 96 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 2: these little games. It's all kind of like fun and 97 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: or it's just they're doing it at their own sort 98 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 2: of fancy because they want to and they can, you know, and. 99 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: Right, the representative is this sort of like bourgeoisie, these 100 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: like you know, leaders in power who are like walking 101 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: around in their opulent outfits and then like torturing young 102 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: people sexually and physically and emotionally. So it's really but 103 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: you know, again, like as a person who has written 104 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: and studied and been a part of like cult movies 105 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: for you know, twenty years, you know, there are like 106 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: films that you're kind of like, oh, this is a 107 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: big one. This is like one of the big you know, 108 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: this movie is a challenge and is unpleasant, and you know, 109 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: but but I have to say, like, I'm glad I 110 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: saw it again. I'm so glad I saw it now 111 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: that I'm as old as I am, versus what I 112 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: saw it when I was in college and I was, 113 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: as you call, in your shithead phase where you're just 114 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: watching provocative things just to watch them. And now I'm like, oh, 115 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: I can watch this as an adult and process at 116 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: at you know, a higher level, if you will. So 117 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: I don't know it was. I still think it's It's 118 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: one of the most interesting movies I've ever seen in 119 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: my entire life. 120 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 2: So there's that. I would say, Cello, is you know, 121 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 2: if this was a ski mountain grade, it would be 122 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: a black diamond in terms of difficulty to like in 123 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 2: your film journey. It's a tough one. It ain't the 124 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 2: Bunny slopes, So I would you know, if you don't 125 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 2: know what it is and you don't know what you 126 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 2: you might want to do some research on it before 127 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 2: you watch that one. But it is. I it's a 128 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 2: it's amazing, it exists, and it is wild. 129 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: Yes, it is wild. Speaking of wild, and maybe wild 130 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: in a slightly different way, maybe not. I also watched 131 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: for the very first time this movie called Two Moon Junction, 132 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: which is this movie from nineteen eighty eight, and it 133 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: was directed by another sort of notorious director, Zalman King. 134 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: If you don't know Zalmon King, he was kind of 135 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: a director and peddler of sort of what they would 136 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: call like softcore porn in the eighties and nineties. He 137 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: would responsible for the Red Shoe Diaries. Ah, yes, you know, 138 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: he did a couple of great like there was a 139 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: couple of films that he did early on that I 140 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: had actually programmed on TC Underground, like some call it 141 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: Loving and Blue Sunshine and whatnot. But he is mostly 142 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: known for kind of like that Wild Orchid slash, Red 143 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: Shoe Diaries, softcore porn stuff. Now Two Moon Junction, this 144 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: was something that I watched with my I have a 145 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: group of friends who I started a club with actually 146 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: many many many many years ago before I moved to 147 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: La actually, and it was called and I gotta tell you, 148 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: we were ground floor about this. We decided to create 149 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: a film club called Consenting Adults, and it was all about, 150 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: you know, our movie club was going to watch erotic thrillers. 151 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: And know we were, like I said, ground floor on 152 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: the resurgence of erotic thrillers. I mean, it was like 153 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: a decade before Baby Girl. Okay, so you know, but 154 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: we were kind of interested in rewatching a lot of 155 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: these sort of erotic thriller classics, and we've seen them 156 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: all at this point, it's been going for years and years, right, 157 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: So Two Moon Junction literally just came up and we 158 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: decided to watch it. And I gotta tell you, it 159 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: is fucking fantastic. Yeo. 160 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 2: I mean the cover looks great. There Shehriylyn Fenn is 161 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 2: in the throes of passion with who's that actor? The 162 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 2: actor is name Richard Tyson. 163 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: Yes, who played the bad guy from Kindergarten Cop if 164 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: you'll remember. Yes, Yes, he is wild in this. So 165 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: this movie is so insane and Sherylyn Fenn, I gotta 166 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: tell you, Like, I know. 167 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 2: That twin peaks fame. 168 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: Of course, she was known for being in kind of 169 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: risque and slightly controversial films in her career, and this 170 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 1: was definitely one of them. I know that she has 171 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: talked about being in this movie, uh subsequently, and you know, 172 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if she had like such a positive experience. 173 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, you're gonna have to go 174 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: and do your research about that. But basically, like in 175 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 1: this film, it's kind of this like crazy southern gothic 176 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: erotic thriller where she plays like this woman who's about 177 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: to be married to this like fucking southern college football 178 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: nightmare guy. And then she meets the Richard Tyson character 179 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 1: at the carnival and he's this like total like Brando, 180 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: wanna be like fucking Tennessee Williams guy. He doesn't wear 181 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: a shirt ever, He's never wearing a shirt, and they 182 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: end up having this like affair, and I mean, there's 183 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: so many wonderful details in this movie. It's so good 184 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: and funny and weird and corny and amazing. So anyway, 185 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: gotta tell you, if you're into this kind of weird 186 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: world of like the kind of shitty skin type of stuff, 187 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: this is really this is for you. This is the 188 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: fil a baby you are gonna eat. 189 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 2: Well, so it's it for me, wonderful, wonderful. Well, let 190 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 2: me crack my knuckles, crack open my diary here. Uh okay. 191 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 2: I finally saw Anora, which we discussed on a previous episode. 192 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 2: Loved it, Love Sean Baker. This is a very fun movie. 193 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 2: I had a great time. It's not as it's not you. 194 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 2: You worry with movies like these that it's gonna be 195 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 2: you super tragic, but it's just I just had a 196 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 2: great time. Okay, then you know this. We recorded an 197 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 2: episode of my favorite Murder. You remember that I do 198 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 2: Karon and Georgia. 199 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: Of course I remember that. 200 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 2: And I mentioned that I saw this movie truly, madly, deeply. Yes, 201 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 2: so that's in my film diary here. Watched truly madly, 202 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 2: deeply and loved it five stars on letterbox. 203 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: Oh wow, wow wow. 204 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. I was just very deeply moved by that film. 205 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 2: More people should see it. It's from nineteen ninety. It 206 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 2: stars Alan Rickman. It's directed by Anthony mcguela, stars Juliet Stevenson. 207 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 2: Her boyfriend dies and he comes back as a ghost, 208 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 2: and you're like, why is he coming back as a ghost? 209 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 2: What unfinished business? Mighty have? Well watch the movie and 210 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 2: you'll find out. And recently, I don't know if I 211 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 2: log this on letterbox, but I recently rewatched Romey and 212 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 2: Michelle's High School Reunion, which is one of my favorite 213 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 2: movies of all time. I think came out in nineteen 214 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 2: ninety seven, mi Or Cervino and Lisa Kudro. They go 215 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 2: to their high school reunion and it is just a silly, bright, 216 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 2: fun I love friendship movies, and it's a really great 217 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 2: girl friendship galpal friendship movie. And yes, it's very sweet 218 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 2: and I love it. And I wish more movies took 219 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 2: big swings like that movie did. 220 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: In the you know who I love in that movie? 221 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: Uh uh duh, are you kidding me? Like she's amazing 222 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: in that she makes the cigarette paper that burns faster. 223 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 2: Our cigarette smoking queen. You know, I was thinking about this, Millie. 224 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 2: We should do a whole cigarette episode. 225 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: Oh I would love that, as you know, I would. 226 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 2: Love and maybe we can smoke cigarettes while we the episode. 227 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: We'll be like, you know, French new wave directors while 228 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: we're like puffing away at the end of this episode. Yeah. No, 229 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: she's fantastic my movie. I just like love her whole vibe, 230 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: like her like she just hates everybody in her high school. 231 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: I mean that was me. I mean I won't say 232 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: she's exactly me, uh because I wasn't that antagonistic. She 233 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: like fucking hates it and eviscerates everyone. In their high school. 234 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 1: Uh I was. I still wanted to be liked by 235 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: all the people that I hated, but it was pretty 236 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: much like I hate you all, you know? 237 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I just I've never been to a 238 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 2: high school reunion, and I don't think I ever will. 239 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 2: I kind of I wish I had one like Rome 240 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 2: and Michelle, but I don't think. I don't think my 241 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 2: school organ I don't think those happen anymore because Facebook 242 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 2: destroyed the high school reunion. 243 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, oh I could never. Sorry, I could never. 244 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: I've been invited, I think like twice, and I'm just 245 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: like nope, Like, do not have enough positive memories about 246 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: that experience? Unfortunately I really don't. And the people that 247 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: I liked for my high school I more or less 248 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: still talk to, which is like literally like a tiny 249 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: handful of people. So why do I need to go 250 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: to a reunion? Who gives a shit? 251 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 2: That's true? Very true? Sorry, that is my film diary. 252 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: Alrighty, well that was fun. Yeah, pretty ready to talk 253 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: about love. 254 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 2: Talk about LORV, Millie. Let's talk about LORV. Are you 255 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 2: do you like romantic movies? Milly? 256 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: Of course I do? Are you kidding? I I've got 257 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: a record so much about this On my previous podcast, 258 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: I saw what you did, which is that I I 259 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: fronted for so many years, maybe decades, in fact of 260 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: being a type of person that was not interested in 261 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: like romance and you know, kind of like lovey Dovey's stuff. 262 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: I was like, come on, I was watching Salo and 263 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: Kennibal Holocaust and things of that nature. I was like, 264 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: too based for love, right, Yeah, but you want to 265 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: watch Harmony Kareem's trash humpers. 266 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 2: You don't want to watch something about love. 267 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, oh, God, like whatever, like uh, when 268 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: Harry met Sally. But now I'm here to admit, and 269 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: I've admitted most recently in the past several years that 270 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: I actually secretly loved romance and I snuck movies like 271 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: when Harry met Sally. So I was like, yeah, my 272 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: friends were watching fucking Wake and fright, yeah, fucking yeah. 273 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: And then I'm like secretly at home rewatching Untamed Heart 274 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: for the eighth time. I was like obsessed with love 275 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: and wanting boyfriends and having crushes on people, and you know, 276 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: I like would like really watch a lot of romantic stuff, 277 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: especially the stuff that would come on TV, like you know, 278 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: reruns of you know, rom coms and stuff that they 279 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: play constantly. I just was in front of that stuff 280 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: all the time, and I'm like, oh god, thirteen going 281 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: on thirty, I gotta watch it again. I've still loved 282 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: this movie. Yeah, but no one will know about it 283 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: because I'm too cool. 284 00:16:55,280 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. So anyway, the smoking SIGs with dark eyeshadow. 285 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: Oh yeah. I was like, I put I'd rather put 286 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 1: this out in my eye, is what I was telling you. 287 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: But inside I was, you know. 288 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 2: Feeling all sorts of feelings. Of course, I guess what 289 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,959 Speaker 2: I guess. A question at the foundation of all of 290 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 2: this is what do you think makes a movie romantic? 291 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 2: Because you'll watch you know, you watch these Hallmark and 292 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 2: this is no slight to Hallmark movies, but they don't 293 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 2: necessarily make my heart feel that romantic pull that some 294 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 2: really excellent films. Do you know what is it that 295 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 2: makes you know, makes you yearn makes you feel romantic, 296 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 2: makes makes you want to experience love? What is it 297 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 2: in a movie? I know this is kind of a 298 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 2: big question, but what is it that makes a romantic movie? 299 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 2: For me? 300 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: This is right off the dome. If you asked me 301 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: about this in like a week, I probably have a 302 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: more opinionated answer. I think there's two things for me 303 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 1: that really get me. Number one is longing, so wanting 304 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: to be with someone or a character that wants to 305 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: be with someone but can't. That might come up in 306 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: my choices for this one for this episode. And the 307 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: other is the idea of like two people against the 308 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: world or two people against society, right, because, like, let's 309 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: get serious, like, you know, I'm a I'm a fucking 310 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: I am Janine Garofflo. I was like really into goth 311 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: and punk and sort of less obvious forms of romance 312 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: my entire life, right, because I think a lot of 313 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: this is gonna get kind of deep and you'll have 314 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: to bear with me on this. But I think as 315 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 1: somebody who was not like really into dating and sort 316 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: of I wasn't like, you know, a personal experience sort 317 00:18:56,520 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: of like this really like you know, happy, sappy like 318 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 1: love life. When I was growing up, like I always 319 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 1: was like the obsessively crushed out like weirdo in the 320 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: back of the classroom. I was not like, you know, 321 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: some popular girl bouncing around like boyfriend or boyfriend, right, 322 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 1: So in my mind, I think, you know, I'm sitting 323 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: here being like all the stuff that I liked, which 324 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: was art and music, and you know, I was like 325 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: listening to the Smiths, dude, like sure. So that to 326 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 1: me when I when I watch films, those sort of 327 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 1: like unobvious forms of romance are the ones that get 328 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: to me. So, like, you know, a love I will 329 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: call it generically a sort of Bonnie and Clyde scenario 330 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: of like two people who are like kind of destined 331 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:45,959 Speaker 1: to be together and then the world is against them 332 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: or society is against them, and they're they've got each other. 333 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: Or yeah, I mean tales about people who you know, 334 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: like maybe you mentioned this one car Wise in the 335 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: Mood for Love, two people that want to be together 336 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: but can't because there are external forces that keep them apart, 337 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: or you know, any kind of movie like that. So 338 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 1: those are what I think are or what make romantic 339 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: movies for me. But I don't know you have a 340 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: different answer. 341 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 2: Maybe No, I think you answered exactly. The movie needs 342 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 2: to make me feel like they really might not end 343 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 2: up together. I feel like there needs to be that 344 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 2: tension in the movie for it to feel romantic, because 345 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 2: if it just is like lovey dovey the whole time. 346 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 2: And it's like, you watch these rom coms and you're like, oh, 347 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 2: obviously they're gonna get together, but I think you have to. Like, 348 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 2: I think, actually that's what makes When Harry Met Sally 349 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 2: a good movie, because you're like, I don't like, I 350 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 2: don't remember the first time I watched it, but you know, 351 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,199 Speaker 2: it feels like they might not end up together, you know, 352 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 2: and kind of hand in hand with that that longing 353 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 2: you mentioned. I love the visualization of longing. I'm bringing 354 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 2: up Wang kar Wai again. Wang in the Mood for 355 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 2: Love is such a romantic movie because there's all these 356 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 2: shots of Tony Lung like smoking a cigarette and slow 357 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 2: motion and you're like longing, I am longing actively on screen, 358 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 2: you know, and it's it's just it's just pulling these 359 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 2: feelings out of you because you just see these people 360 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 2: staring at each other. They're just looking at each other. 361 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 2: And I love that feeling. I love that that. That's 362 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 2: like what makes it a romantic genre is like that 363 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 2: palpable longing on screen. 364 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh man, I have something to recommend for you 365 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: later than in our employee picks, because we'll put a 366 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: pin in that we'll talk about that later. 367 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 2: Put a pin. 368 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: In and yeah, no, I agree, And like it's funny 369 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 1: because you know, I think that again, I want I 370 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: keep going back to this idea of uh, sort of 371 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 1: the ways in which love had been presented to me 372 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: when I was a young person. So again, like I 373 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: think that part of like what I leaned into when 374 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,719 Speaker 1: I was first sort of you know, when I was 375 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: like a little girl, right, was that I was watching 376 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 1: like sixteen Candles and you know, the John Hughes universe. 377 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: And again, I was like pretty young when those movies 378 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: came out, like in the mid eighties, and you know 379 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 1: those were all about like invariably like nerdy people or 380 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 1: poor people who had crushes on people who were quote 381 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: unquote out of their league, and I was just status 382 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: higher status or like you know just sort of like 383 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: different vibes. And I mean, I will I can't even 384 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 1: tell you like when you know, I was presented with 385 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: the whole like sixteen Candles scenario of like Jake Ryan 386 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: and you know Molly Ringwold's character where he was this 387 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: like beautiful popular guy and she was this kind of 388 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: you know, boring nerd show. I don't even think she 389 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: was a nerd. I think she was just sort of 390 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: like a quiet, quiet or just sort of like cool 391 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 1: into music, and that that was the literal blueprint for 392 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: everything that I would love about romance. Subsequently, is the 393 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: like popular guy from high school who like hates being 394 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: popular and wants to get with like the cool girl 395 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: that likes music and is like has a good family 396 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 1: and is like an you know, like that kind of thing, 397 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: like she like loves hanging out with her parents or 398 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: something like that. Like that dynamic to me, I mean 399 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: it ruined my life, Casey, it has ruined my life. 400 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 1: It continues to ruin my life. But that's like the 401 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: thing is I think that's what creates the tension of 402 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 1: the will they are, won't they? It's just like there's 403 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 1: no way these two people can be together. He is 404 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: like he dates you know Carolyn, who you know, is 405 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: like the most beautiful blonde in their high school. He 406 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: could never find you know, interesting Molly Ringwall, but odd Tzar. 407 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 2: I you know, I think we share a history here 408 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 2: because I think both. I think the shared history is 409 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 2: that romantic movies have ruined our lives and have made 410 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 2: us worse people. And because I think that I was 411 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 2: like not a dater. I mean, I you know, I 412 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 2: kind of dated here and there, but I never had 413 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 2: a long term girlfriend in well into my twenties. And 414 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 2: I feel like how I thought romance was supposed to 415 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 2: go is very much based on movie romance, which real 416 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 2: life is not like that. Sadly, yeah, it's not like that. 417 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 2: And if you get caught up in that narrative of 418 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 2: wanting your real life romance is to always feel sometimes 419 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 2: they do, but they don't always feel like they do 420 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 2: in the movies. 421 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 1: Well, I think when you go to therapy and you 422 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: grow up a little bit or something, you realize that 423 00:24:54,359 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: those that dynamic of being like of like the int intense, 424 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: insane longing is sort of disordered. 425 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 2: It's disordered, it's unsustainable, and uh it certainly you have 426 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 2: that at the beginning of relationship and when that fades away, 427 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 2: that doesn't mean it's indicative of a bad relationship or anything. 428 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 2: But you can't you just can't. I think this really 429 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 2: got me in trouble in high school and college, where 430 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 2: I'm like, this is how romance needs to feel, or 431 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 2: it's fake. So Milli and I have picked our three 432 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 2: favorite romantic movies most romantic movies, and I don't know 433 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 2: what hers are. This is a complete surprise. So, uh, Millie, 434 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 2: what is your first These don't have to be in 435 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 2: our any particular order, but what. 436 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: I'm put them in order, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna 437 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: go from like three to one. How about that? 438 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 2: If you pick one that I picked, I'm gonna be 439 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 2: so fucking pissed. 440 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: I'm gonna this fist is gonna come through the screen 441 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: and punch. 442 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 2: You right there. I'm gonna like, I'm gonna scream. 443 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 1: But it wouldn't be cute. It wouldn't be cute. If 444 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 1: we picked things act saying three, it would be cute. Okay, 445 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 1: so let me go, let me go number three. So 446 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:19,479 Speaker 1: my third most favorite romantic movie is a movie from 447 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: nineteen forty five. It was directed by a man named 448 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: David Lane. Mellie, No, did you counter? 449 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 2: Did you break? 450 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: Breathing counters? 451 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 2: It's on my list, I swear to god, it's the 452 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 2: first one on my list, the first one. 453 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: My god. Oh, okay, this we should have checked. We 454 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: should have fucking checked. Okay, so we both have this 455 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: one on our list. This is sort of okay? Would 456 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: you say this? This movie feels a little bit like 457 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 1: the blueprint for in the Mood. 458 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 2: For Love, right in the Mood for Love and Carol. 459 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 2: This tell people what Brief Encounter is about. A perfect film. Oh, it's, 460 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 2: in my estimation, a perfect film. 461 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 1: So this is a film about two strangers who meet 462 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: in a train station. Okay, they're both married. They're played 463 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 1: by the actors Celia Johnson and Trevor Howard. 464 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 2: Okay, beautiful, there is so beautiful. 465 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: Beautiful, black and white, completely British. Wouldn't you say, like 466 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: there's this restraint to it that I feel like is 467 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: a British thing. They meet in this train station, they 468 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 1: fall in love, and then they're just sort of like 469 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: going through the machinations of like wanting to be with 470 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 1: each other, but they can't because it's they have a 471 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 1: lot of there's societal expectations. I mean, this is nineteen 472 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: forty five. I mean this is a different era for women, 473 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 1: but for men too. So it's like it's just this 474 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: like completely beautiful, tender, restrained film about unfulfilled desire. 475 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 2: They are both yeah, they're both married, they can't. They 476 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 2: kind of fall in love accidentally, like they kind of 477 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 2: bump into each other a couple times randomly, and then 478 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 2: it's kind of like, oh, let's go see a movie. 479 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 2: And then they both I think there's a scene where 480 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 2: they're I think I can't remember who says it, but 481 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:31,439 Speaker 2: they're like we both realized what has happened, don't we? 482 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's like, you know, also like don't you 483 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: think sorry to mean they're upchu No? But also, isn't 484 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: this movie this movie is like a pure example of 485 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: how other people can fuck up your shit so badly? 486 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yes, like all the. 487 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: People that they run across, like they just they have 488 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: such a finite amount of time to be around each 489 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: other because they're both waiting for trains, and then it's 490 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: like they're trying to sit there and look into each 491 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: other's eyes and have a moment, and then this fucking 492 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: I know and like the fucking you know porter comes 493 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: in is like wassoup, Like can you get this fucking 494 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: guy out of here? He's routed vibe. 495 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 2: Like yeah, yeah. They literally have like thirty seconds in 496 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 2: between trains just to like look at each other, and 497 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,959 Speaker 2: this guy's like, how's it going there? When I went, yeah, unbelievable. 498 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 2: What a film. Celia Johnson's face tells an entire story. 499 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 2: She has these big eyes, she looks like Audrey Tautteau, 500 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 2: and she just communicates this longing and this sadness and 501 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 2: this desire like, oh, it is a such good. 502 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: And the ending is gonna put your fucking heart in 503 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: a vice and crush it forever. 504 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 2: The ending you're you're gonna actually this is actually gonna 505 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 2: ruin your life forever. You will be sadder and in 506 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 2: a worse place. If you see this movie, Oh. 507 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: Big to say. Movie that's so fucking funny. 508 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 2: Oh my god. Okay, so I'm I but I have 509 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 2: to say three. I need to say a different one now, Okay, 510 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,479 Speaker 2: so that one's been scratched, all right, Okay, I'm gonna 511 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 2: say number three. For Me is a film from nineteen 512 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 2: forty six, directed by Faint Frank Capra. It's a Wonderful Life. 513 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: Okay, I was getting nervous. Uh what a come on? 514 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: What a great movie. 515 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 2: I love this movie. And there's a scene where, uh. 516 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: Don't say it, don't say it? Is it the scene 517 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: that I'm thinking of with Donna. 518 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 2: Reid with the phone. Oh my god, Casey what the 519 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 2: phone scene? They're both listening on a phone and he's 520 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 2: like smelling her hair. Uh, is that her? Is it? 521 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 2: Donna Reid? Yes, Donna Reid, Jimmy Stewart. It's a wonderful life. 522 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 2: It's known as a Christmas movie, but it's so much 523 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 2: more than and I love Christmas movies, but it's so 524 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 2: much more than that. It's like about life and romance 525 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 2: and the fulfillment of life. And I think it gets 526 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 2: to something that I think I really love in romance 527 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 2: movies too, where part of the romance is discovering the 528 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 2: joy of life rather than just the love of this person. 529 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 2: It's discovering yourself too. I think that's what makes a 530 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 2: good romantic movie too, where it's like a person is 531 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:32,479 Speaker 2: going through self discovery. And you know, Jimmy Stewart, you know, 532 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 2: down on his luck guy, he's visited by. He's like, 533 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 2: I wish I was dead, I wish I was never born, 534 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 2: And an angel comes and shows him his life and 535 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 2: what the world would be like without George Bailey. And 536 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 2: there's this beautiful scene. Yeah, like I already mentioned, he's 537 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 2: smelling her hair while they're listening on the phone and 538 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 2: it is hoked. It's hoked, and they look great and 539 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 2: it's beautiful. 540 00:31:55,800 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, Like I I think that there 541 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: are a few moments in early Jimmy Stewart's career where 542 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: I was like, I would kiss that man on the 543 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: mouth with tongue perhaps. 544 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 2: And this is the number one, like he has kissable 545 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 2: mouth syndrome. 546 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: Oh my god, he was so cute, like back in 547 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: his early career, I mean later, like every a lot 548 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: of people think, oh yeah vertigo, no, no, uh uh now, 549 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: oh man, like everything. I mean even in Mister Smith 550 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: Ghost Washington, I'm like that little wispy hair when he 551 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: gets all stressed out, I'm like, he's so cute. So 552 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: but this one is. I mean honestly, every time I 553 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: watched that scene of them on the phone, I get 554 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: butterflies in my stomach. 555 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, And then he's all like, oh no. 556 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: Oh god, now you just ruined it. You've ruined my fush. 557 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:53,239 Speaker 2: I thought that was pretty good. 558 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: Impress, You've completely nailed it. But then you remember Jimmy 559 00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: Stewart tall, tall, like. 560 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 2: Not on the bank, it's out of the Frank's house. 561 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 2: I love that. WIT's a wonderful life, just such a 562 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 2: beautiful I love a scene too where someone's running happily. 563 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 2: It's like a great Marry Chrissmass. You know where he's running. 564 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 2: It's great. Ye okay, that's my number three. 565 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks, thanks for picking that American classic my number 566 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: two selection. I hope to God even pick this, because 567 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: we are fucked if you did. But this movie is 568 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: from nineteen fifty and h it was directed by Joseph H. Lewis. 569 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: It's called Gun Crazy. 570 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 2: Gun Crazy. I have not seen this movie. 571 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so you gotta fix that asm. This better 572 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: be on your film diary next week or else. Gun 573 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: Crazy is a noir, a noir film. It is an 574 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: early entry into that sort of thing that I mentioned earlier, 575 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: that kind of Bonnie and Clyde set up. It's you 576 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: know very much that it's so it's and you're thinking, 577 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,720 Speaker 1: I'm saying this right now, and you're thinking, what about 578 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 1: this is romantic? I'll tell you two people against the world, 579 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: two people who are misunderstood by literally everybody but themselves, 580 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: And that to me is I mean, I cannot think 581 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 1: of a more romantic scenario. 582 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 2: Right. 583 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: You've got John Dall. If you were a fan of 584 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: the actor John Dall like I am, please for the 585 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: Love of God. Email me at Deer Movies at exactlyrightmedia 586 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 1: dot com. I'm a huge John dolphan. He wasn't in 587 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,359 Speaker 1: a ton of films, but like the movies that he 588 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: was in are fantastic. Speaking of Jimmy Stewart, he was 589 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: in Rope. That's probably his most famous movie. He was 590 00:34:55,520 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: the guy that wasn't Farley Granger. But he plays basically 591 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,879 Speaker 1: this kid, like a wayward kid that grows up that's 592 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,919 Speaker 1: obsessed with guns, just like wants to shoot shoot shoot guns. 593 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:08,720 Speaker 2: He's gone crazy. 594 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: He's absolutely goun crazy. It's like that Nirvana song in 595 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: bloom Right. So basically he goes to a carnival and 596 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: he meets like you know, goes to the sharpshooter tent 597 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 1: and it's this hot lady who was played by the 598 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: actress Peggy Cummins, and he's like, I have to have her, 599 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: I need to know her, like she loves guns just 600 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 1: as much as me. And then they get together and 601 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: it was like, let me tell you right now, the 602 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,720 Speaker 1: actor John Dall from all accounts was a gay man, right, 603 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: but him and Peggy Cummings in this film, their chemistry 604 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 1: is unfucking real and what I've read, you know a 605 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: little bit about the production. I mean basically the director 606 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 1: was basically like, all right, you guys act like you 607 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 1: want to fuck each other all day and all night, 608 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 1: and they like did the task. They basically were like, 609 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: that's what this is on screen in the nineteen fifties, 610 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: like production code way. It's about as sexy as you 611 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,720 Speaker 1: can get nice in that way. And they're so good 612 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,240 Speaker 1: and it's romantic, and they're lovers on the run because 613 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: of course, you know they love guns. They gotta start 614 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: Robin Banks, and it's so wonderful, and like again you're thinking, 615 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 1: oh my god, a noir, how can it be romantic? 616 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: It is, I'm telling you it is. It's so so romantic. 617 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 2: Love it fabulous? Pick I need to see it. I 618 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 2: got to add it to my cue. Yeah, yeah, So 619 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,280 Speaker 2: I'm eliminating. I had some other things on my list. 620 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,720 Speaker 2: In the Mood for Love. We talked about that movie already. 621 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 2: I don't want to discuss that, so I'm booting it 622 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 2: from my list. But I really think the movie Eternal 623 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 2: Sunshine of the Spotless Mind is a very romance from 624 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 2: two thousand and four with Kate Winslet, directed by Michelle Gondry. 625 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 2: Is a very romantic movie in the sense it all 626 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 2: takes place in Jim Carrey's mind, So that is kind 627 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 2: of a romantic notion too, that things are happening within 628 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 2: your own mind. But it's also sort of the dissection 629 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 2: of what you liked about that person and basically the 630 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 2: whole In this world, you can erase people from your memories. 631 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,320 Speaker 2: And Jim Carrey had a bad breakup with Kate Winslet, 632 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:38,959 Speaker 2: and he's erasing her from his memories, and the movie 633 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 2: takes place in his brain and he's like, I regret it. 634 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:50,240 Speaker 2: I regret this procedure and erasing her. So he's running 635 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 2: through his brain trying to save these memories basically, and 636 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 2: I feel like there's all this is. There's a lot 637 00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:02,760 Speaker 2: of sadness because it's about the end of a relationship, 638 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:07,399 Speaker 2: but it is there's a lot of longing and there's 639 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 2: a lot of introspection about this person that you love 640 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,760 Speaker 2: and you know it didn't work out necessarily in this movie, 641 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 2: but I don't know. I think there's something very sweet 642 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 2: about that and sad and I just love that movie 643 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 2: so much and I like that romance is the it's 644 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 2: like a relationship is the center of It's not like 645 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 2: there's a plot, something else is happening, and then there's 646 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 2: a romance in the movie. The romance is the structure 647 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 2: of the film, or a relationship is the structure of 648 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 2: the film, you know what I mean. So I love it. 649 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:52,799 Speaker 1: I mean, lit'sten. There's something super romantic about somebody who 650 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,360 Speaker 1: against sort of like their better judgment, is like desperate 651 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 1: to like remember this person, you know what I mean. 652 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,439 Speaker 1: So there's that I think that's such a romantic concepts right, 653 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 1: But also it goes back to what I was saying 654 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,839 Speaker 1: earlier about these kind of like oddball romances. I mean, 655 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 1: that's the thing about that movie that I love about 656 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,879 Speaker 1: it is that, like, you know, you've got like these 657 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,360 Speaker 1: two people who are kind of like good for nobody 658 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 1: except for each other in a way, Like Jim Carrey 659 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: is is kind of like depressed, like you know, teetering 660 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 1: on sort of like I don't know, having like maybe 661 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,839 Speaker 1: a mental break, and he finds like this kind of 662 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 1: like I mean, we we've talked about this in the 663 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 1: in the in the second episode about you know, kind 664 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 1: of the manic pixie ish kind of dreamgirl trope. But 665 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,279 Speaker 1: she is also kind of like quirky and maybe like 666 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,320 Speaker 1: you know, has her own stuff, but did they find 667 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 1: each other and they have like this whirlwind romance and 668 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 1: I know there's it's such a romantic movie. I'm so 669 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 1: glad you picked up. 670 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you. Okay, you're number one. 671 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 1: Oh my god, my number one most romantic movie of 672 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 1: all time. I actually rewatched it before we recorded to 673 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 1: make sure that it was still my number one, and 674 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: it is. This is another classic film. And I gotta say, 675 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 1: like the movies that I picked, you know, are all 676 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 1: basically old films, like they're made in the forties and fifties. 677 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 1: And I feel like that's just my brain, Like I 678 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 1: love classic romances. I mean, no disrespect to the eternal sunshines, 679 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 1: but come on, like I got you gotta pick a 680 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 1: movie like this when you when you're shooting your shot, right. 681 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 1: So my number one, maybe the most romantic movie I've 682 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 1: ever seen in my life is a movie from nineteen 683 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 1: forty six. It was directed by a couple of fellows 684 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:48,280 Speaker 1: who called themselves the Archers, but it was Michael Powell 685 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 1: and Emeric Presburger, and the movie is called A Matter 686 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 1: of Life and Death. 687 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 2: I this is like the one Powell and Pressburger movie 688 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 2: I haven't seen. 689 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:02,840 Speaker 1: Oh my god, dude, you like fucking scrap what I 690 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,839 Speaker 1: just said earlier. You gotta see this movie. 691 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 2: Okay. 692 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 1: It is beautiful. It's this beautiful romantic fantasy film. It's 693 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 1: about this pilot, this like British pilot World War two, 694 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 1: played by David Niven, and he's like, at the very 695 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,760 Speaker 1: beginning of the movie, the plane is fucking going down 696 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 1: and he's like, there's no fucking parachute and he's just 697 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,399 Speaker 1: like it's going there, and he's like fuck and he's 698 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,840 Speaker 1: like on the radio with like the radio operator be like, 699 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,359 Speaker 1: my plane's going down. I'm sorry if illas love Joe, 700 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And like the radio operator 701 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 1: is this woman who's played by Kim Hunter, the actress 702 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,800 Speaker 1: Kim Hunter, who was you probably know her from a 703 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,399 Speaker 1: street card name Desire, amongst many other things. But she's 704 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:58,320 Speaker 1: this American radio operator who like talks him through the crash, 705 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 1: like she's basically like, you know, I'm with you, and 706 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,360 Speaker 1: they fall in love in that moment. And so what 707 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:09,879 Speaker 1: happens is he's supposed to die in the crash, right, 708 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:14,720 Speaker 1: turns out he didn't I, and they end up meeting 709 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:19,719 Speaker 1: randomly after this horrific event, they fall in love. But 710 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 1: then it turns the movie is fucking so brilliant. It 711 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 1: basically is this I would say, like a scenario modeling 712 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 1: of like what would happen if Heaven was like, Okay, 713 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:37,239 Speaker 1: we're expecting this guy because he died in an airplane 714 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:41,399 Speaker 1: crash over the water in World War Two, but wait 715 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,880 Speaker 1: a minute, he actually survived. Well, now we gotta go 716 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,280 Speaker 1: get him. But now he's in love with this woman, 717 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 1: and it's so it's so lovely. It switches from black 718 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 1: and white to color, and so it's essentially like a 719 00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 1: fantasy film about, you know, these angels from Heaven needing 720 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 1: to go get this guy because he technically should have died. 721 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,919 Speaker 1: He's on their looks as a dead person who needs 722 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 1: to be in Heaven. But now it's complicated because he's 723 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 1: in love and sort of the whole thing, and now 724 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,960 Speaker 1: he's on Earth, he's talking to these angels. It is 725 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 1: so romantic. It's literally like hurts my heart to talk 726 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,799 Speaker 1: about it, that's how romantic it is. I love that 727 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 1: and beautiful shot beautifully. If you've ever seen an Archer's film, 728 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 1: if you've like a Powell press Reger movie. You know 729 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,800 Speaker 1: exactly what I'm talking about, Red shoes like Black Narcissus, 730 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 1: that kind of technicolory. Oh my god, it's the best. 731 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:43,800 Speaker 1: It is the best. 732 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:49,320 Speaker 2: Well, I'm kind of embarrassed by my number one, okay, 733 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 2: but you know romance is embarrassing. Sure, And the movie 734 00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:03,640 Speaker 2: i'm picking is a from two thousand and one, And why. 735 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 1: Would you be embarrassed about that? 736 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 2: Because it's it's sort of a basic bitch answer, I 737 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 2: feel like, but I just love Amillie so much. It's 738 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:20,279 Speaker 2: so tender and sweet, and it's from two thousand and one. 739 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,920 Speaker 2: It's French. It's stricted by Jean Pierre Janet, who you 740 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 2: might have seen direct other movies like Delicatessen or City 741 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 2: of Lost Children. He's a very fantastical, cartoonish director. But 742 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,400 Speaker 2: Omily is about this woman played by Audrey Tetto named Omii, 743 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 2: and it's sort of the goings on of her cute 744 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,440 Speaker 2: little life. She's trying to help out people in her 745 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 2: neighborhood by setting some people up in the cafe that 746 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,240 Speaker 2: our lonely get them together. She's sort of pulling pranks 747 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 2: on mean guys to get even with them, and she 748 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:07,080 Speaker 2: is trying to find this guy who keeps taking his 749 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,440 Speaker 2: picture in photo booths. There's a lot of little mysteries 750 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,319 Speaker 2: sort of going on, and all the while she's sort 751 00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:18,400 Speaker 2: of trying to figure out what she wants from life, 752 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:23,719 Speaker 2: and she sort of keeps circling this other guy, you know, 753 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,040 Speaker 2: and it's kind of long. There's like this other guy 754 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:30,319 Speaker 2: who works at a sex shop that they kind of 755 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:37,839 Speaker 2: keep almost connecting, and it's sort of scary and exciting, 756 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 2: and they're just sort of circling each other and you 757 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,080 Speaker 2: can just tell they're the same kind of people, and 758 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,880 Speaker 2: you just are like, these two are supposed to be together. 759 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,239 Speaker 2: I don't quite even remember how we know that, but 760 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:54,560 Speaker 2: you just know it. And there's a lot of like longing. 761 00:45:54,600 --> 00:46:01,520 Speaker 2: But it's very funny and cute, and it's such a 762 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 2: romantic world that it lives in. It's very red and 763 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:10,760 Speaker 2: I just feel all sorts of butterflies with that movie. 764 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 2: And I love that movie so much, and that's my 765 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:14,240 Speaker 2: number one. 766 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 1: Well listen, I even though you said it was a 767 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:25,960 Speaker 1: basic bitch answer, I won't say it's not. But sometimes 768 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,400 Speaker 1: the basic bitch answer is the answer. Do you know 769 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:32,279 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, uh, that's yes, it is. It is, 770 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,440 Speaker 1: and this is a preer example of that. I mean, honestly, Like, 771 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,480 Speaker 1: so we talked about this movie, by the way, when 772 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:39,719 Speaker 1: I saw what You Did, and I had a lot 773 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,560 Speaker 1: to say about this because it was that kind of 774 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,560 Speaker 1: thing where it felt like this movie like set the 775 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 1: table for like a lot of like kind of quirkburgery 776 00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:53,360 Speaker 1: romantic crap that I fucking hated in the two thousands. However, 777 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:58,960 Speaker 1: this movie is so lovely that I feel like it is, 778 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:04,600 Speaker 1: like it should be held up as a really beautiful, romantic, cute, 779 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,960 Speaker 1: sweet film. And even though they tried a hundred different 780 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,799 Speaker 1: ways to like remake it in the worst ways, like 781 00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,280 Speaker 1: this one, the og is still the best. And honestly, 782 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:18,040 Speaker 1: like it is so romantic, like it really is. Like 783 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,440 Speaker 1: by the end, you're just sort of like, oh my god, 784 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,719 Speaker 1: I'm like crying my fucking brains out. 785 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and it has I think one of 786 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:33,680 Speaker 2: the best kisses in film history, because a lot of 787 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,880 Speaker 2: times when like the characters of a film, you're like 788 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:37,480 Speaker 2: rooting for them to get together and then all of 789 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,680 Speaker 2: a sudden they're smashing their faces into each other, and 790 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 2: film you know, but it's a very good kiss at 791 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,080 Speaker 2: the end, which is sometimes hard to film. 792 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't blame it all for being your number 793 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:53,840 Speaker 1: one basic bitch, and that's totally fine with me. 794 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,040 Speaker 2: So that is my nature. Yeah, and I'm realizing that 795 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:04,399 Speaker 2: as this podcast goes on, well fabulous. Uh. I feel 796 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,440 Speaker 2: like we really did such a great job of getting 797 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:11,800 Speaker 2: into the nitty gritty of romantic movies and we do. 798 00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 2: You know, I think at our core we're just kind 799 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:16,480 Speaker 2: of we're both too MUSHes. 800 00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:18,960 Speaker 1: We are we are, and I hope that, like, if 801 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,640 Speaker 1: you've not seen any of those movies, especially the older 802 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 1: ones that we mentioned, you should really seek them out. 803 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,600 Speaker 1: I mean I think they're widely available. They're probably at 804 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,040 Speaker 1: least on Amazon Prime. Definitely a lot of them are 805 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 1: on Criterion Collection, So yeah, check them out. I mean 806 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:36,000 Speaker 1: they're just that's so fun to be to, you know, 807 00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,279 Speaker 1: have like actually to have a holiday like Valentine's Day 808 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 1: being an excuse to watch a bunch of romantic movies. 809 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 2: I don't know, I think it's kind totally totally. 810 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:58,239 Speaker 1: All right. So we got to move into this new section, yes, 811 00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,320 Speaker 1: because I have this game for you this week. 812 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,120 Speaker 2: That is is our game section. 813 00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:09,399 Speaker 1: Yes, this this is very very on topic for our 814 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:13,359 Speaker 1: episode this week. But I love creating games to break 815 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,520 Speaker 1: your brain. And hopefully this will because like we said, 816 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,560 Speaker 1: the last time we played a game, I said, I really, 817 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,239 Speaker 1: I mean, you've got every one of them right. 818 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:24,000 Speaker 2: So I got every single one of them right. It 819 00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:29,360 Speaker 2: was really embarrassing for you, and uh so, yeah, I'm 820 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:30,480 Speaker 2: excited to see what you got. 821 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:32,960 Speaker 1: All right. So this is a game. I don't have 822 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,279 Speaker 1: a title for the game. You can come up with 823 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:40,160 Speaker 1: it if you want. Listen, okay or casey, But these 824 00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,560 Speaker 1: are I'm gonna present to you five films, and I'm 825 00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:47,160 Speaker 1: gonna give you a synopsis of a film, okay, and 826 00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:51,239 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to name the film. Every film in 827 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,760 Speaker 1: this list has the word love in it. 828 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:57,520 Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I'm scared now because I made fun of 829 00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:01,200 Speaker 2: you for the previous game easy, and then you're like, 830 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:06,319 Speaker 2: I'm gonna fucking destroy you on this game, and so 831 00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,560 Speaker 2: I'm I am legitimately frightened. 832 00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,520 Speaker 1: Well, and here's to narrow the field a little bit, 833 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,520 Speaker 1: because there's a lot of movies with love in them. 834 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:20,560 Speaker 1: These five films are movies that I love, so I 835 00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,560 Speaker 1: love so these are movies that I like. So you 836 00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:27,800 Speaker 1: know you've done Potcas that's right. So these are movies 837 00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,120 Speaker 1: that if you know me and you know my sensibilities, 838 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,680 Speaker 1: you might get them. So, like, you know, think about 839 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 1: it that way. So guess what love actually and on 840 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:40,359 Speaker 1: this fucking list? Okay, get out of here. Yeah, so 841 00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,840 Speaker 1: this is stuff that I would like. So maybe something 842 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:47,880 Speaker 1: a little you know, I'm not saying like underground, but 843 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:49,759 Speaker 1: I'm saying, you know, a little off the beaten paths. 844 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,080 Speaker 1: So some of them. All right, So here we go 845 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:56,560 Speaker 1: number one. So the synopsis of this film is this 846 00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:02,360 Speaker 1: is a darkly comedic satire starring George C. Scott and 847 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:06,319 Speaker 1: Peter Sellers, in which a rogue US general triggers a 848 00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:08,080 Speaker 1: nuclear crisis. 849 00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:14,120 Speaker 2: Doctor Strange Love or How I Learned to Love the 850 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:15,400 Speaker 2: Atomic Bomb? 851 00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,960 Speaker 1: I think it's technically how I learned to stop worrying. 852 00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,080 Speaker 2: And love it. 853 00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,680 Speaker 1: Thank you Sting from nineteen sixty four. 854 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:24,600 Speaker 2: There we go. 855 00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:28,799 Speaker 1: That was a little easy. Yeah no, yeah, So a 856 00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:33,200 Speaker 1: great film, A great film and actually features like maybe one. 857 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,560 Speaker 1: Speaking of old actors, Sterling Hayden, who is one of 858 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:41,399 Speaker 1: my favorite classic film actors, is great in this film. 859 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,600 Speaker 1: It's probably his best film, wouldn't you say? 860 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,759 Speaker 2: Maybe I have only I only saw him in The 861 00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:53,319 Speaker 2: Killing and Johnny Guitar and Nine to five. N I 862 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,640 Speaker 2: love George Scott so much. He's one of my favorite actors. 863 00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:02,760 Speaker 2: I just rewatched Hardcore Where's Yes? I love him so much. 864 00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,160 Speaker 1: Speaking of hotties, I gotta tell you George C. Scott 865 00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,799 Speaker 1: in Doctor Strangelove with his like sleeves rolled up on 866 00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,680 Speaker 1: the list, right, sure, Oh my goodness? 867 00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,920 Speaker 2: Great? All righty okay. 868 00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:21,120 Speaker 1: Second, So this is another film that we're doing for 869 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:26,120 Speaker 1: this quiz. It is this synopsis. This is a hypnotic 870 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:34,920 Speaker 1: romance directed by Jim Jarmush about two centuries old vampire 871 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,480 Speaker 1: lovers who are reuniting in a decaying world. 872 00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:43,120 Speaker 2: One of my faves, Only Lovers Left alivee A great film. 873 00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:44,960 Speaker 1: Very good, Yes, from twenty thirteen. 874 00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:48,279 Speaker 2: Of course I've never been to Detroit, I have that 875 00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:49,879 Speaker 2: movie said. 876 00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,719 Speaker 1: But goddamn, I love that movie so much. Yes, I mean, 877 00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:54,640 Speaker 1: and I love it more now than I ever have. 878 00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:56,840 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, why. 879 00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:00,799 Speaker 2: Would you say that's your favorite Jim Jarmush movie? 880 00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,719 Speaker 1: You know it's up there. I mean, honestly, Down by 881 00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:07,239 Speaker 1: Law was such a huge, huge movie for me that 882 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,319 Speaker 1: it feels like it's always gonna be my number one. 883 00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:13,160 Speaker 1: But like Only Lovers Left Life is definitely his. It's 884 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,200 Speaker 1: like a masterpiece of his later work. 885 00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,520 Speaker 2: Yes, totally and honestly. 886 00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,080 Speaker 1: Like I said, I don't think I think it's age. 887 00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,120 Speaker 1: But man, do I really love this movie now? Like 888 00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:25,200 Speaker 1: I love it, love it, love it. 889 00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:30,320 Speaker 2: One of our great indie directors, Yes, Jim Jarmush okay 890 00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:31,560 Speaker 2: old on number. 891 00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,640 Speaker 1: Three, Okay, I don't see let's see what you where 892 00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:35,439 Speaker 1: you follow on this one? 893 00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:35,760 Speaker 2: Okay. 894 00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:43,520 Speaker 1: This is a chilling horror tale about a brilliant but 895 00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:49,359 Speaker 1: deranged surgeon played by Peter Lorie who becomes obsessively infatuated 896 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:50,600 Speaker 1: with an actress. 897 00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:57,480 Speaker 2: Uh wow, getting harder baby with an actress, Peter Lourie. 898 00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,480 Speaker 2: So you know that's an old one. 899 00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:00,479 Speaker 1: Yeh. 900 00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:03,160 Speaker 2: I don't know. 901 00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,920 Speaker 1: You can use Google by the way that I mentioned. 902 00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,200 Speaker 2: I can use Google. Okay, I mean. 903 00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:11,600 Speaker 1: If you're stumped, you can look at your notes ri 904 00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:13,200 Speaker 1: open test. 905 00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:20,640 Speaker 2: Yes, my my favorite kind mad love that that is correct. Wow, 906 00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:23,840 Speaker 2: damn I've not seen this movie. 907 00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:29,360 Speaker 1: Oh man? Again another like weird like Hollywood film. I 908 00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,160 Speaker 1: mean it was just it's actually fantastic. It's really entertaining. 909 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:36,720 Speaker 1: The best part about it. That ship is sixty eight minutes. 910 00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:43,799 Speaker 2: Tight tight. I love the movie. M oh yeah with 911 00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:47,680 Speaker 2: how could you not Peter Lori, Yeah, yeah, such a 912 00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:48,120 Speaker 2: good movie. 913 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,160 Speaker 1: But yeah, I love it. If you can get a 914 00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,400 Speaker 1: movie under an hour and fifteen, Holy. 915 00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:56,600 Speaker 2: Fuck beautiful, that's beautiful. I'll watch the fut Okay, wow, 916 00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,160 Speaker 2: I got one wrong, my first ever. 917 00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,719 Speaker 1: You can well, you know, we'll see. We got two 918 00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:02,319 Speaker 1: more left. 919 00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:05,960 Speaker 2: Maybe this, maybe this segment could be called like it 920 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,960 Speaker 2: could be like a play on candy crush, Casey crush, 921 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:09,960 Speaker 2: crush casey. 922 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:14,399 Speaker 1: Let's call it casey crush Number four almost done, number four. 923 00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:19,760 Speaker 1: Synopsis is this? This is a stylish, brooding, neo noir 924 00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:25,279 Speaker 1: film about a motorcycle gang drifting through a small southern town, 925 00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,400 Speaker 1: and it just happens to be the directorial debut of 926 00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:34,399 Speaker 1: both Catherine Bigelow and Mony Montgomery and was the first 927 00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,520 Speaker 1: screen credit for the actor Willem Dafoe. 928 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:43,879 Speaker 2: I can see his face is the name of that movie? Uh, 929 00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,840 Speaker 2: I can see I know this movie. 930 00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,200 Speaker 1: Use your phone, call, use your phone. 931 00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:54,200 Speaker 2: Call my phone, call my my lifeline. I need my lifeline. 932 00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,920 Speaker 2: What is the I don't know what it is. I 933 00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:01,600 Speaker 2: have to look it up the list, that's. 934 00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,520 Speaker 1: Right, nineteen eighty one's the Loveless. 935 00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,560 Speaker 2: Okay, there's one more, one more, Okay, I got a 936 00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:08,839 Speaker 2: redeem You. 937 00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:12,080 Speaker 1: Gotta try to get over five hundred, right, I know. Okay, 938 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:17,240 Speaker 1: So last one in our love movie quiz or aka 939 00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:19,360 Speaker 1: Candy or Casey Crush. 940 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:20,120 Speaker 2: Casey Crush. 941 00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:22,960 Speaker 1: All right, you're if you get this one, I'll be 942 00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:24,160 Speaker 1: fucking amazed. 943 00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:24,640 Speaker 2: But no. 944 00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:34,239 Speaker 1: So this is a melancholic drama from the director of 945 00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:40,840 Speaker 1: the beloved cult hit Possession, all about a struggling actress 946 00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:45,160 Speaker 1: played by Romy Schneider who becomes entangled in a turbulent 947 00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,640 Speaker 1: love trigle with a photographer played by Fabio Testy and 948 00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,800 Speaker 1: her possessive husband played by Jacques dul Trunk. 949 00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,680 Speaker 2: I do not know this The only other the only 950 00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:59,200 Speaker 2: other movie I know that, uh, the Possession director did 951 00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,680 Speaker 2: was like on the Silver Globe or something like that, 952 00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:07,919 Speaker 2: which has been on my TikTok a lot for some reason. Yeah, 953 00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:09,920 Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not going to look it up. 954 00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:14,360 Speaker 1: Okay. This is the American title, the English title, okay, so, 955 00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,400 Speaker 1: I mean technically it's called something in French, right, but 956 00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:23,560 Speaker 1: it's called that Most Important Thing Love nineteen seventy five, 957 00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:28,000 Speaker 1: Andre's Mulwawski. If that's the that's the director you're thinking of, 958 00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,200 Speaker 1: dude Possession, Yeah, this is his, like I would say 959 00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,760 Speaker 1: probably his. Like second, I don't know, if you talk 960 00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,439 Speaker 1: about him and he's like pretty obscure director, I would 961 00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,439 Speaker 1: say yeah. But this is the other one that I think, 962 00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:42,280 Speaker 1: you know, people bring up from time to time only 963 00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:45,640 Speaker 1: because everybody knows, like you know, cenophiles know who Romy 964 00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:48,840 Speaker 1: Schneider and Fabio Testy is for sure. But anyway, it's 965 00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:55,440 Speaker 1: it's kind of nutty, very stylish. But yeah, I had 966 00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,440 Speaker 1: to add it at the end because I was like, yo, 967 00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,440 Speaker 1: if he gets this, I will I will write him 968 00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:05,280 Speaker 1: at check for ten. But you know this is to 969 00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:08,320 Speaker 1: make up for the softball quiz from last time. So 970 00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:09,240 Speaker 1: there you go. 971 00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:14,200 Speaker 2: Well, thank you Millie for another fascinating quiz. Last week. 972 00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:19,480 Speaker 2: I killed it. This week it killed me, so thank 973 00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:34,040 Speaker 2: you so much. Good effort though, good effort. Okay, moving 974 00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:41,200 Speaker 2: on to our final segment, Employee picks aka chicks picks. 975 00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:46,800 Speaker 2: But that's the box that my mom put at the 976 00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:53,240 Speaker 2: movie the video rental place. Your suffragette mom My suffragette mom. Yes, 977 00:58:54,200 --> 00:59:00,320 Speaker 2: Sandra O'Brien, we love her. Okay. So you know, I 978 00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:06,520 Speaker 2: was thinking about love a lot and love in movies, 979 00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:09,280 Speaker 2: and I think there's a like there was a lot 980 00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:11,320 Speaker 2: when we were trying to think of the most romantic movies. 981 00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:15,000 Speaker 2: I was trying to a lot of ideas came to 982 00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,840 Speaker 2: my mind, but they were I was like, this is 983 00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:22,720 Speaker 2: a really romantic movie, but I like love the romance 984 00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:26,280 Speaker 2: in it. If that makes sense it does to you. 985 00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:30,040 Speaker 2: So this is a movie that I've mentioned on this 986 00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:36,360 Speaker 2: show before, but I believe I have, but it is. 987 00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:42,040 Speaker 2: I wouldn't say it's a romance necessarily in a way 988 00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:47,200 Speaker 2: it is, but there's really good romance in it. And 989 00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:51,720 Speaker 2: that is a nineteen eighty five Japanese film called Tompopepo. 990 00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:53,960 Speaker 1: Ah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 991 00:59:54,000 --> 01:00:01,160 Speaker 2: And it's it's more about the love affair with Japanese cuisine, 992 01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:06,880 Speaker 2: but there's really sweet romances between a few different characters. 993 01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,280 Speaker 2: It's about a woman who owns a ramen shop and 994 01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:12,480 Speaker 2: this truck driver stops in town and he's kind of 995 01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:15,080 Speaker 2: a It happens in their shop, but he's stopping at 996 01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,120 Speaker 2: romen spots all over the country because he's a truck 997 01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:21,240 Speaker 2: driver and he decides to help her kind of revitalize 998 01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:26,680 Speaker 2: her ramen shop. Yes, and there is some romance between them, 999 01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:30,840 Speaker 2: but it's all very like will they won't they? And 1000 01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,760 Speaker 2: there's also there's a lot of different storylines in this 1001 01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:36,080 Speaker 2: and there is just sort of a more There's like 1002 01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:40,240 Speaker 2: a gangster character who has a romance with a woman 1003 01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:43,840 Speaker 2: that's very sexy and kind of fleeting. You don't really 1004 01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:45,960 Speaker 2: know exactly what's going on with that story, but they 1005 01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:50,080 Speaker 2: kind of just swoop through sometimes. But overall it is 1006 01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:54,920 Speaker 2: such a sweet, beautiful, funny movie. You can watch it 1007 01:00:55,000 --> 01:01:01,920 Speaker 2: on HBO Max right now. Tom Popo which means Dandelion 1008 01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:04,960 Speaker 2: Cues in Japanese, and I love that movie so much. 1009 01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:08,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good pick. Actually, that's kind of, you know, 1010 01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:11,439 Speaker 1: like not a completely obvious choice, but like once you've 1011 01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:16,600 Speaker 1: said it makes sense. Okay, So here's what I'm gonna do. 1012 01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:19,200 Speaker 1: I I am gonna fuck this shit up so badly 1013 01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:23,480 Speaker 1: because I'm this is technically not a movie. I gotta say, 1014 01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,920 Speaker 1: I I know, and I can't help it in the 1015 01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:31,800 Speaker 1: and the reason why I'm evoking these uh, these kind 1016 01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:36,440 Speaker 1: of exceptional rules for this episode is because I literally 1017 01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:41,000 Speaker 1: just finished it and I got it. I have to say, 1018 01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:46,120 Speaker 1: it's probably the most romantic thing I've seen in a 1019 01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:49,720 Speaker 1: very long time, maybe in years. And I'm not joking 1020 01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:54,920 Speaker 1: when I tell you, I cried literally every single episode 1021 01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:55,560 Speaker 1: of this show. 1022 01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:56,200 Speaker 2: WHOA. 1023 01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:00,160 Speaker 1: There was not one episode where I didn't cry. 1024 01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:00,600 Speaker 2: Wow. 1025 01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:05,080 Speaker 1: Okay, So I my so my nephew who is about 1026 01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,040 Speaker 1: to be nine or maybe he's about to be ten. 1027 01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:11,640 Speaker 1: I think he's nine. He is really into anime, right, 1028 01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,800 Speaker 1: and I have never really gotten into anime before. I mean, 1029 01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:17,560 Speaker 1: obviously I like know what it is, and I've seen 1030 01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:19,520 Speaker 1: like the Studio Ghibli movies and that kind of stuff, 1031 01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:23,240 Speaker 1: but I've never seen like anime shows or anything like that. 1032 01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:25,840 Speaker 1: Like I like, I know who like Naruto is, but 1033 01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,480 Speaker 1: I don't. I've never seen all of it. Right, So 1034 01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:34,880 Speaker 1: during the holidays, I started watching this. It's on Netflix. 1035 01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:40,920 Speaker 1: It's this anime series that's called kimmin Ta Dooke. I 1036 01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:44,600 Speaker 1: think I've said that right from me to you. It 1037 01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:48,360 Speaker 1: started out as a Japanese manga, it got made into 1038 01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:52,040 Speaker 1: a show. There was there's been three seasons of it. 1039 01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:55,520 Speaker 1: The first two seasons came out in like the late 1040 01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,640 Speaker 1: two thousands, So it's been like the first the very 1041 01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:02,280 Speaker 1: first like one or two season and were like late twenty's, 1042 01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,920 Speaker 1: early twenty tens. But then they made a third season 1043 01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:09,720 Speaker 1: that came out within the past like six months, okay, 1044 01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:16,960 Speaker 1: and it is this unbelievably sweet and adorable story of 1045 01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,800 Speaker 1: this little I wouldn't say she's a little girl, she's 1046 01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:23,760 Speaker 1: like a teenage girl. She the joke is that she 1047 01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:28,040 Speaker 1: looks like the girl from the Ring, you know that 1048 01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:30,760 Speaker 1: movie with the ring with the black hair. So she's 1049 01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:34,640 Speaker 1: at her school and she looks like this horror movie character, 1050 01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:36,880 Speaker 1: and everybody thinks she's weird and they don't like her. 1051 01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:40,000 Speaker 1: But of course there's this one guy in her high 1052 01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:44,240 Speaker 1: school that is like the nice popular guy sees beyond 1053 01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:48,680 Speaker 1: her freakiness, and they just like slow talk about a 1054 01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:53,920 Speaker 1: slow burn love holy fucking shit. Like over the course 1055 01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:58,040 Speaker 1: of like the three seasons, they just like hang out 1056 01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:00,520 Speaker 1: more and more and fall fall for each other, and 1057 01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:05,760 Speaker 1: it's like it's this whole It is agonizing. The willmaw 1058 01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:09,640 Speaker 1: won't they is so agonizing that I thought I was 1059 01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:11,919 Speaker 1: gonna have a heart attack. Like I was like, they 1060 01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:15,320 Speaker 1: have to get together or I will die. I will 1061 01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:19,120 Speaker 1: literally drop dead, and it was like every episode was 1062 01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:25,880 Speaker 1: so sweet and endearing, and like the girl Sodako, that's 1063 01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:29,240 Speaker 1: the little girl character, and then her the guy that 1064 01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:32,960 Speaker 1: she's in love with. His name is Kasa Hayah. Kasa 1065 01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:36,760 Speaker 1: Hyah is the model for every boyfriend. Like he's this 1066 01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:41,600 Speaker 1: like tall, dark haired guy with the messy, you know, BedHead, 1067 01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:45,600 Speaker 1: and he's so fucking nice and like he protects her 1068 01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:48,720 Speaker 1: from all these bullies and he's just like he always 1069 01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:51,360 Speaker 1: tries to make her feel comfortable because she's socially awkward 1070 01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,200 Speaker 1: because she was bullied in her school and so she 1071 01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:56,840 Speaker 1: doesn't know how to be around people and she has 1072 01:04:56,880 --> 01:05:00,360 Speaker 1: good intentions, but she's awkward and he's always like there 1073 01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:06,400 Speaker 1: for her. Dude, I loved it so much. It is 1074 01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:09,840 Speaker 1: unbelievable how much I loved it. I actually bought the 1075 01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:13,600 Speaker 1: first book in the in the series, which I've never 1076 01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:16,720 Speaker 1: even read manga before. I'm like a middle aged woman. 1077 01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:18,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I guess I'm gonna read this manga 1078 01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:20,960 Speaker 1: and it's like backwards, you know, I guess you have 1079 01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:22,920 Speaker 1: to read it from the back or something. Right, Is 1080 01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:24,240 Speaker 1: that right, good people? 1081 01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:28,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, it's I I have read a few manga 1082 01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:30,200 Speaker 2: and it is a little challenging at first to get 1083 01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:33,360 Speaker 2: that done. But it is good. 1084 01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:36,200 Speaker 1: Yes, it is so wonderful and I just had that 1085 01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:38,520 Speaker 1: is like I said, it's not technically a movie, it's 1086 01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:41,960 Speaker 1: technically a series. It's an animated series on Netflix. I've 1087 01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:44,200 Speaker 1: not seen a live action. There's a live action one 1088 01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:48,320 Speaker 1: on Netflix. I would say, start with the animated one 1089 01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,360 Speaker 1: and you will die over how cute it is. I 1090 01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:52,120 Speaker 1: loved it so much. 1091 01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:56,080 Speaker 2: Okay, well that thank you for that wreck. It sounds great. 1092 01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:56,960 Speaker 2: I'll have to check it out. 1093 01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:57,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, please do. 1094 01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:02,640 Speaker 2: Oh my god, we reach the end of another episode. 1095 01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:04,160 Speaker 2: Isn't that thrilling? 1096 01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:10,520 Speaker 1: It is thrilling. It's very, very very thrilling. So uh okay, yeah, listen, 1097 01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:15,040 Speaker 1: if you want to email us, we are at deer 1098 01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:18,480 Speaker 1: Moovies at exactlyrightmedia dot com. You could obviously tell me 1099 01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:22,840 Speaker 1: if you like obscure classic actors. I'm always here for 1100 01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:25,520 Speaker 1: that all day, every day. 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