WEBVTT - Ep. 108 - Open preview with Brad Faxon

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Clubhouse with Shane Bacon, presented by TIF

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<v Speaker 1>Shane Bacon, and it is Open Week, British Open Week,

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<v Speaker 1>Open Championship Week. You can really call it whatever you want.

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<v Speaker 1>I will unfortunately not be in Scotland because we at

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<v Speaker 1>Fox have the unique opportunity to bring you a little

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<v Speaker 1>afternoon golf after you finish up watching the Open in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning. The US Junior Amateur will be on FS

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<v Speaker 1>one uh the semifinals or Friday two to four pm Eastern.

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<v Speaker 1>The Championship is on Saturday one to four pm Eastern,

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<v Speaker 1>so make sure you check that out once you wrap

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<v Speaker 1>up with your Open Championship viewing, because it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>great stuff. These young kids get just better and better

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<v Speaker 1>and it really looks like you're watching professional golf when

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<v Speaker 1>you watch this. And it's at Baltics Roll of course,

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<v Speaker 1>a major championship venue. So headed out that way tomorrow

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll be there for the week and the weekend

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<v Speaker 1>and then Sunday morning. I'll be able to get up

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<v Speaker 1>after we wrap up the Championship on Saturday and check

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<v Speaker 1>out check in with Carnousti, which looks extremely dried out,

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<v Speaker 1>which is awesome, very brown, which is awesome, and the

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<v Speaker 1>greens look like they're in unbelievable shape. So it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a fun one. It brings. I think I think

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<v Speaker 1>the conditions bring in a lot more players. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna hear a lot of people talk about Tiger Woods.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked with that about I talk about that with

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<v Speaker 1>Brad facts and the guests this week just about um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what type of player can benefit from conditions

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<v Speaker 1>like this, So it should be a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>The Open is one of the most fun viewing weekends

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<v Speaker 1>of the entire year, just because you get to get

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<v Speaker 1>up super early and you know, get the coffee brewing

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<v Speaker 1>and lay on the couch and watch golf, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you get to go play golf in the afternoon, that is,

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<v Speaker 1>after you watch the US Junior Ameter on the f

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<v Speaker 1>S one C. I am such a business guy. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you hear that? That was I didn't even miss a beat.

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<v Speaker 1>And before we get to Brad, I just wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>let you know that when it comes to golf equipment,

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<v Speaker 1>we always want the newest driver. Of course, we always

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<v Speaker 1>want a golf ball that goes five yards further. We

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<v Speaker 1>All right, to my summer best friend, That's what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>calling them, My best buddy of the summer, A guy

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<v Speaker 1>that I spend more time within my wife Brad facts

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<v Speaker 1>and up next, and we welcome back into the clubhouse,

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<v Speaker 1>a man that has avoided my request to quote unquote

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<v Speaker 1>pot it up. That's why you get so annoyed, is

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<v Speaker 1>it's the way I referenced brad facts and you hate

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<v Speaker 1>the way that I say pott it up. I love

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<v Speaker 1>come never. You know, you're such a millennial. You know

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have that vernacular in my vocabulary, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna start using that. Maybe people think I'm cooler more

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<v Speaker 1>contacts that way. Yeah. So you and I have spent

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<v Speaker 1>basically the entire summer together, and I hate to even

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<v Speaker 1>bother you on a day that that we're not having

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<v Speaker 1>to work together, but I appreciate you coming on. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I I love chatting with you about kind of golf

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<v Speaker 1>courses because you and I are both kind of golf

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<v Speaker 1>course nerds. For goodness, say so, we just got a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to do the US Senior Women's Open at Chicago

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<v Speaker 1>Golf Club, and we're basically salivating the entire broadcast. But

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<v Speaker 1>when you look at pictures of what we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>see this week at the Open Championship, you're seeing a

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<v Speaker 1>golf course today is a historic Open Championship golf course,

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<v Speaker 1>But it looks the way that if you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>close your eyes and think about an open venue, it

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<v Speaker 1>looks exactly like you'd think it's burnout. The fairways look

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<v Speaker 1>like they're gonna run forever, but the greens are still

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<v Speaker 1>in good shape. And you know, for people like you

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<v Speaker 1>and I, it's gonna be an exciting week to watch

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<v Speaker 1>because it feels very much like a real Open. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're ready, it feels and it looks it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>burned out, no control over the golf ball in atlant

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<v Speaker 1>and you know a lot of rubbed the green bouncing

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<v Speaker 1>and Carnewsti or or is affectionally known by many of the

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<v Speaker 1>the players as car Nasty. When the Open was there

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<v Speaker 1>in ninety nine, you know, Paul Lord somehow managed to

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<v Speaker 1>win that thing in a mere seven over part, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>roughly eight ft high, and then the finish by John Vanderbilt.

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<v Speaker 1>People remember those two Opens there. But I'll tell you what.

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<v Speaker 1>We played the Senior British Open there a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, and you know I've played Carnusti in the

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<v Speaker 1>Dunhill Links Championship. It's a fabulous golf course until the

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<v Speaker 1>last couple of holes and then it's very I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>out of character, what would think of Links golf and

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<v Speaker 1>British golf with these creek beds that run through those

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<v Speaker 1>two holes. But nevertheless of those two holds are impossible too.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's one of my favorite courses and the same

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite story is when when Ben Hogan came over

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<v Speaker 1>to plays one and only British Open he played at Carnews.

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<v Speaker 1>The d ended up winning that event to win the

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<v Speaker 1>first three majors of nineteen fifty three. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't get back in time to play the PA Championship

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<v Speaker 1>to win the Grand Slam because he took the boat

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<v Speaker 1>back and it wouldn't get back in time. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>take the boat anymore, you're telling me that's not that's

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<v Speaker 1>not an option. No, I don't want to be on

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<v Speaker 1>the q E two. But it's just it's just there's

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<v Speaker 1>so much great history there the course. You're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to have a little bit of everything here. And and

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<v Speaker 1>I love the RNA's approach to the Open Championship is

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<v Speaker 1>unlike what we expected a US Open, for um hard

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<v Speaker 1>to be the score of the winning score around part.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the U s g A has a different

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<v Speaker 1>amount mentality of the RNA. The RNA so dependent on weather,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know that's gave me course is difficult Ternbury

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<v Speaker 1>and eighty six when Norman one mirror field when Els

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<v Speaker 1>one had very very high if I don't remember hitting

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<v Speaker 1>so right rough there and it was over my belt

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<v Speaker 1>high obviously Carnoustian. It can be as difficult as they

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to be. But it's fun when it's fast, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when it's narrow, and when the wind blows so that

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<v Speaker 1>the RNA hopes to have some wind. It looks like

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<v Speaker 1>the forecast is for some steady, um warmest weather for

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<v Speaker 1>over their high sixties. Nothing crazy, but as you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it changes in a minute. Yeah, it was. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to get into kind of a couple of names and predictions,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course we'll talk a little tiger there as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But I wanted to ask you, because I know you've

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<v Speaker 1>got some interesting stories across the pond in your career.

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<v Speaker 1>What was your first introduction to links golf? Not in America,

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<v Speaker 1>if you will, but links golf, you know, in Scotland

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<v Speaker 1>and England and Ireland. First time I ever played in

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<v Speaker 1>England was in the Walker Cup at Royal Liverpool or

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<v Speaker 1>hoy Lake as we called it, and it was the

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<v Speaker 1>first time I crossed the Atlantic and that hotbed of

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<v Speaker 1>golf and Royal Liverpool looking at St Anne Birkedale, you

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<v Speaker 1>know they're all tied in there within a half an

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<v Speaker 1>hour's drive of each other, and some other great qualifying courses.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think what blew me away was, well, there

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<v Speaker 1>were two things that brew me away, but playing the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Part that brew me away was how irrelevant yardage was.

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<v Speaker 1>And what I mean by that you played over there

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<v Speaker 1>to know that you could be in a in a

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<v Speaker 1>situation where you might be in the rough down wind

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<v Speaker 1>from two hundred yards and hit a nine iron and

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<v Speaker 1>it just bounces and bounces and bounces, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>could have a shot from a hundred and thirty yards.

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<v Speaker 1>It could be a foreign and might not be enough.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's I love the old school mentality, even with

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<v Speaker 1>the technology and new equipment, of having to think about

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<v Speaker 1>a trajectory rather than what club and what yards. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really about containing and controlling the golf ball. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, so many people talk about you being a

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<v Speaker 1>great putter. I know that that's something that's followed you

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<v Speaker 1>around your entire career, but I don't think you've ever

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<v Speaker 1>really gotten the credit. This is a compliment you're getting,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, I don't think you've ever gotten the

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<v Speaker 1>credit for being such a great pitcher. I mean, your

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<v Speaker 1>your ability to get the ball up and down from

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<v Speaker 1>around the greens is something that a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>people that played golf with you throughout your professional career

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<v Speaker 1>talk about. You had to have loved being over there

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<v Speaker 1>just simply because you could be so creative around the greens,

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<v Speaker 1>not just with these approaches that you're talking about, but

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, looking at a pitch shot knowing there's

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<v Speaker 1>twelve ways to play it. We felt we saw a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit at Shinnikock. We're gonna see a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>of that at Carnoustie, I'm sure, yes. And it's a

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<v Speaker 1>different kind of chipping and pitching. You'll see a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more guys bouncing the ball along the ground, putting from

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<v Speaker 1>farther away because it's so baked out and dry. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll see less sixty degree wedges used for pitching. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you might see you know, the odd pop punker shot

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<v Speaker 1>around the green where guys taking a sixty outer has

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<v Speaker 1>to get a lopshot over one of those those bunkers.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, the greens of Carnunsity have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of folk to them, and there's a lot of rough

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<v Speaker 1>around the greens. So finding a fairway, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>everybody to play. If you can find the fairway, find

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<v Speaker 1>the greens, you're gonna be a big advantage and the

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<v Speaker 1>start of carnysity. I mean, the holes are so different.

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<v Speaker 1>You have holes where you gotta draw it. You got

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<v Speaker 1>hole where you gotta fad. You got a long part,

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<v Speaker 1>four sharp parforce. You've got holes that go into the

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<v Speaker 1>way and against the wind, and it's it comes at you.

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<v Speaker 1>In the first four or five holes, they turn every

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<v Speaker 1>different way. And then when you get to the par

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<v Speaker 1>five six, that famous hole or Hogan took it down

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<v Speaker 1>to the left side between the bunkers and the obi

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<v Speaker 1>where most players lay it out to them right now. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's there's so much choice, and you know, you and

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<v Speaker 1>I would have a battle to see who has the

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<v Speaker 1>most great logos and who has played the most top

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<v Speaker 1>hundred courses. And I bet if we sat in the

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<v Speaker 1>room and had a beer and just said, Okay, what

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<v Speaker 1>are your favorite courses? Those courses have so much choice

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<v Speaker 1>and so much option, and that's what you'll see it.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you feel like you're a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the things we're hearing from the players

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<v Speaker 1>is that driver is going to be out of these

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<v Speaker 1>guys hands. And you already mentioned hoy Lake. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>if you had a dollar every time somebody says who

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<v Speaker 1>we like this week, you're not gonna have to retire

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<v Speaker 1>and never have to worry about working on the broadcast

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<v Speaker 1>team anymore. But it's it's gonna be brought up a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna look like when Tiger one, when you hit

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<v Speaker 1>one driver. All week long, we've heard Phil Nicholson say

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<v Speaker 1>you might not have a driver in the bag. Tiger

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<v Speaker 1>said to day he feels like this is his best

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<v Speaker 1>chance ever. Does this eliminate distance? And when I say that,

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<v Speaker 1>does it mean does this eliminate the bombers? And allow

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<v Speaker 1>basically everyone that's a media medium distance short distance hitter

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<v Speaker 1>to contend this week if they play well around the greens. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>And and you know when Tiger won there and Mcarroy

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<v Speaker 1>want at Wylak, they did it in different ways, but

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't hitting driver and every hole for sure. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's not that you can't, but you have to be precise.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, it's amazing that You could have a

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<v Speaker 1>bunker that's you know, seven yards by seven yards wide,

0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:09.600
<v Speaker 1>and it seems like a ball that's ten yards left

0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:11.720
<v Speaker 1>or right of it. They all end up in that bunker.

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<v Speaker 1>For some reason. The way that the design works, balls

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<v Speaker 1>end up kicking to those bunkers, which, as you know,

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<v Speaker 1>or death. On the golf course, it's like a hazard.

0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:23.320
<v Speaker 1>You got to hit it out sideways. So um, you

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<v Speaker 1>can play a strategy that takes all that out of play,

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<v Speaker 1>but then you've got to really play some controlled iron

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<v Speaker 1>Now let's get back to Mr faxon do you believe

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<v Speaker 1>that that this is Tiger's best chance, not just this

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<v Speaker 1>week but the Open Championship in general. Do you feel

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<v Speaker 1>like this is Tiger's best chance to contend? Considering he

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<v Speaker 1>can look at holes, green back to the t he

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<v Speaker 1>can use strategy, you can hit a lot of those

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<v Speaker 1>long irons. Do you feel like going forward? Uh, and

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<v Speaker 1>and focus is always around Tiger Woods, that this is

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<v Speaker 1>the best major he's going to have to win. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it depends are you're talking about this year in the

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<v Speaker 1>next few years that he plays. I mean, he seems

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<v Speaker 1>to be getting back and stronger and um contending in

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<v Speaker 1>different ways. Now, you know, we used to see Tiger

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<v Speaker 1>win by driving it far, hitting great approach shots, and

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<v Speaker 1>putting like nobody's ever putted before. And now you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we see him contend by having one of those three

0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:22.760
<v Speaker 1>things working, but never all three things working. So he

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<v Speaker 1>needs to find a way to ramp up the consistency.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Shamblie's comment that when he went around carn

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<v Speaker 1>Neusti yesterday that it will be the best chance Tiger

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<v Speaker 1>has to win because he doesn't have to draw the

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<v Speaker 1>ball and there were only two holes that he has

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<v Speaker 1>to draw the ball. And I'm pretty sure if if

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<v Speaker 1>that's the place Shamblie is accurate, those will be three

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<v Speaker 1>with or two iron holes for him. Yeah, it's it's just,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the comments we're getting from carnoustis crazy. I mean,

0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:52.040
<v Speaker 1>these guys are hitting thirty yard drives. We saw it

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit last week at the Scottish Open. Ricky

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<v Speaker 1>was hitting forward in fifty yard drives and uh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna take. I don't think patients is the right word.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think a game plan. Whoever has the game

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<v Speaker 1>plan that I feel like it works the best, not

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<v Speaker 1>for Thursday, not for Friday, but for all four days

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<v Speaker 1>and I wonder if if you have to look at

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<v Speaker 1>at a guy that's really really smart when you know

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<v Speaker 1>the guns go off. I mean, I I know Jordan's

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<v Speaker 1>speed struggled this year with his game, and I know

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<v Speaker 1>if he doesn't win this week, it's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the first calendar year that he hasn't won since he

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<v Speaker 1>was a kid. If ever, but you think about a

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan's speed, and you think about a guy that has

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<v Speaker 1>has has definitely I would say, you know, taking a

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<v Speaker 1>bigger leap than most of these young guys as somebody

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<v Speaker 1>that can outthink a golf course, no doubt. And the

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<v Speaker 1>variable is going to be the wind in the wind direction,

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<v Speaker 1>strength and wind and where it blows from. And an

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<v Speaker 1>experience always makes a big difference if you've played the

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<v Speaker 1>course in these different conditions. But there are some players

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<v Speaker 1>and speak your games. I would put Justin Rose in

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<v Speaker 1>that category of guys that know how to be precision

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<v Speaker 1>like a machine like when they play, but still have

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<v Speaker 1>a knack. They have the ability to to find a

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<v Speaker 1>way when they're they're awf a little bit to get

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<v Speaker 1>the ball up and down or get it in the

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<v Speaker 1>fairway with enough length or enough pop and that's why

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<v Speaker 1>Tigers got a chance here. And there's something about I

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<v Speaker 1>would maybe you should have said this earlier this year.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a spirit that comes out when you go over

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<v Speaker 1>to play in Scotland, and I think you throw away

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<v Speaker 1>the rules and I don't mean the rules of golf,

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<v Speaker 1>but the rules of what you normally do, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know you're you're hitting shots to avoid pop bunkers, to

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<v Speaker 1>leave yourself longer on approaches because you know they're dead,

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<v Speaker 1>or else you're you're getting up and hitting a four

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<v Speaker 1>hundred yard drive so that you can have a two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred yard eight iron to a six hundred yard part five,

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's so many or else you'll play on number six,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll play with three iron, five iron, seven iron and

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<v Speaker 1>walk away with the best part of your life. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's going to be so many different options, so many

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<v Speaker 1>different choices out there that that a player. And you

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<v Speaker 1>you said you don't like the word patients. Maybe it's persistence.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got to have something that keeps your nose to

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<v Speaker 1>the grindstone here and realize that this isn't a normal

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<v Speaker 1>Open championship. Carnousti is different um and then it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make you hit some shots, and especially these last three

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<v Speaker 1>holes seventeen and eighteen, two tough parfloors that are parallel

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<v Speaker 1>to other different directions. Um one of them is always

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<v Speaker 1>amazingly difficult. So it'll be it'll be interesting to see

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<v Speaker 1>what wind comes up the carnst and what type of

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<v Speaker 1>player or players can do the best there. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure I've ever played a golf course for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time. When I first played Carnousti, where I

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<v Speaker 1>stood on the t on, I would say three, four,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe five holds. You mentioned seventeen this is the best

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<v Speaker 1>example of it, and had no clue where to go

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<v Speaker 1>and stand on seventeen for the first time, I had

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<v Speaker 1>no deal where the fairway was. I mean, you know

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<v Speaker 1>that's I think seventeen is tougher than eighteen, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>ten times out of ten unless the winds right behind you.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, when you I was watching I was

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<v Speaker 1>watching the Sergio Padrick Open the other day on they

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<v Speaker 1>had on Golf Channel, and you know, you're hitting long iron,

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<v Speaker 1>long iron. It's like you said, it's a completely different

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<v Speaker 1>strategy and you have to commit to it, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to go out there and hit the golf shots,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you know, you can stand on sixteen T

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<v Speaker 1>two three four five under par and feel pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>about yourself, and you can walk off shooting even very

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<v Speaker 1>very easy. I mean, it has to be the toughest

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<v Speaker 1>three whole stretch that you finish in just about any

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<v Speaker 1>major championship, right. No, I agree with you that I'd

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<v Speaker 1>love to see by the end of the week what

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<v Speaker 1>the percentage of Green's hit on sixteen are, especially when

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<v Speaker 1>the ts way back there. It's two D twenty yards. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's a complete inverted saucer. It's a Donald Ross

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<v Speaker 1>style degree not a Donald Ross screen, but the style

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<v Speaker 1>where it's high in the bill and it runs off

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<v Speaker 1>on all the sides. If if you're gonna land it short,

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<v Speaker 1>it's got to be just a perfectly placed, a shaped shot, uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And it goes off far enough that there's never an

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<v Speaker 1>easy pitch or chip or whatever it is that you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna hit. And then seventeen, you know, if it's down wind, Yeah, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a short, shorter T shot, but you've

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<v Speaker 1>got to keep it short of those that burned the crosses.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's it's never in a situation where guys are

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<v Speaker 1>going to drive it across that burn. For some reason,

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<v Speaker 1>the founders of the game figured out that that t shot.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, if it is down when God bless you,

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<v Speaker 1>because when you play eighteen, you're gonna see the toughest shot. Yeah,

0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:36.359
<v Speaker 1>that eighteen toldly, you know, you cut the ball as

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<v Speaker 1>a lefty eye, draw it as the right. You can

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<v Speaker 1>land a shot of the ante screen, have it go

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<v Speaker 1>out of bounds, left of the green. It's it's the

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<v Speaker 1>damnest thing I've ever seen. And never mind the creek

0:19:45.800 --> 0:19:47.760
<v Speaker 1>you get across the O B on the left. The

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<v Speaker 1>ghost of John Vandervelt. I mean, it's I can't wait

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<v Speaker 1>to sit down and watch this. Then, yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you you think of Vandervelt and his name always comes up,

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<v Speaker 1>of course it does. I mean he makes triple on

0:19:59.880 --> 0:20:02.600
<v Speaker 1>the last it loses in a playoff, and we'll forever

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<v Speaker 1>in in a hundred years from now, if you're alive

0:20:05.480 --> 0:20:07.840
<v Speaker 1>in a hundred years, you'll remember him standing in the burn,

0:20:07.960 --> 0:20:09.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, with his pants rolled up. It's an image

0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:12.639
<v Speaker 1>that is forever burned in the golfer's memory. But you forget,

0:20:13.000 --> 0:20:17.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, Sergio Bogie's eighteen Padrick Harrington doubles eighteen. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>these are the guys that are contending to win this

0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:22.639
<v Speaker 1>Open Championship and they're playing it multiple over par on

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<v Speaker 1>that final day. I mean, it's not just Vandervelt that

0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:27.680
<v Speaker 1>struggle with it. And and I loved on Twitter last

0:20:27.680 --> 0:20:29.600
<v Speaker 1>week Scott van Pelle chimed in. I was talking a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about you know, they were showing a special

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<v Speaker 1>on Golf Channel about Vandervelt, and I said, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure I can watch it because it's still just it

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<v Speaker 1>just pains me. You know when you see somebody like

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<v Speaker 1>that melt down and he says, you know, he got

0:20:40.119 --> 0:20:42.320
<v Speaker 1>one of the worst breaks of all time Van Develle did,

0:20:42.320 --> 0:20:45.159
<v Speaker 1>and everybody forgets that. But uh, you know, I know

0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:47.080
<v Speaker 1>you didn't play in that Open in ninety nine. I

0:20:47.080 --> 0:20:49.000
<v Speaker 1>don't know if you're watching it. If you you had,

0:20:49.000 --> 0:20:50.399
<v Speaker 1>you were at the end of edge of your seat.

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<v Speaker 1>But I remember where I was during that whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And as you said, it's something that is so burned

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<v Speaker 1>in the memory of golfers that any professional on that

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<v Speaker 1>t you don't have to have a seven shot lead

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<v Speaker 1>to feel comfortable there, right, no no doubt. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's so easy after, you know, watching what happened

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<v Speaker 1>to Vanderbilt to say, why don't you just play six

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<v Speaker 1>R and six iron and six um. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>you could have hit the six iron in the creek,

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<v Speaker 1>you get hit the next six R and the funker

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<v Speaker 1>you get hit the next six tron out found um.

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<v Speaker 1>But Vanderbilt, you know, pulls driver out and it would

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<v Speaker 1>have been an easy decision to go wedge wedge, but

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<v Speaker 1>US two D ten yards. All he had to do

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<v Speaker 1>was hit it over the creek in the grand stands.

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<v Speaker 1>He gets a drop in front of him. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>an easy six if he hits it in the grandstands,

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<v Speaker 1>which you did, but it's somehow cams and ricochet back

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<v Speaker 1>over the creek. Even if it when in the creek,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a better shot, UM, a better break. And I was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, thinking about where you were. I was actually

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<v Speaker 1>in a car driving head just maybe I had I

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<v Speaker 1>had a broken wrist, so I didn't get to play

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<v Speaker 1>that one. I had landed somewhere and I was at

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<v Speaker 1>an airplane and I was called Rett Quickly's dad, Paul.

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<v Speaker 1>Paul is so consistent because he's always watching golf, and

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<v Speaker 1>he would be the great announcer like Brett is, and

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<v Speaker 1>and he was giving me the play by playing what

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<v Speaker 1>bandvelt he's doing? I had to stop the plot. You're

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<v Speaker 1>going to wait a minute, he's he's in the burn?

0:22:17.119 --> 0:22:18.760
<v Speaker 1>What does he doing? Just take a drop? I mean,

0:22:18.800 --> 0:22:21.760
<v Speaker 1>I think everybody, everybody's just sitting there was just staring

0:22:21.800 --> 0:22:24.320
<v Speaker 1>at the TV with their hands out, going what is happening?

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<v Speaker 1>You just hope it doesn't happen again. For goodness sakes,

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<v Speaker 1>just don't happen to anyone this week. We don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to see it. The train wreck is only fun once

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<v Speaker 1>every twenty years. I was gonna ask you a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit as I know Brett, I know you've worked with

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<v Speaker 1>some players with their putting lately. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>get in, you know, specifics with certain players, but I

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<v Speaker 1>did want to ask you about your philosophy when you

0:22:42.760 --> 0:22:44.879
<v Speaker 1>talk to players, and you've worked with some of the

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<v Speaker 1>best players in the world the last few months, in

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<v Speaker 1>the last couple of years. Is it a philosophy you

0:22:49.040 --> 0:22:52.080
<v Speaker 1>try to teach him or you're actually working on mechanics. Well,

0:22:52.119 --> 0:22:55.879
<v Speaker 1>there's always both, and it's it's up to the individual,

0:22:56.119 --> 0:22:58.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, and the coach to figure out what's the

0:22:58.119 --> 0:23:01.440
<v Speaker 1>plan for each person? I And there's no cookie cutter

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<v Speaker 1>to putting. And to me, I've seen guys that have

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<v Speaker 1>awkward strokes be great putters, and guys with beautiful looking

0:23:09.119 --> 0:23:12.240
<v Speaker 1>set ups, a beautiful look at mechanics be pour putters.

0:23:12.320 --> 0:23:17.119
<v Speaker 1>And there's no part of the game that tests a

0:23:17.200 --> 0:23:21.359
<v Speaker 1>player more than than the putter does. And I would

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<v Speaker 1>much rather be a confident putter than any other part

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<v Speaker 1>of the game, because it drives you crazy. The worst

0:23:26.920 --> 0:23:30.160
<v Speaker 1>thing is when when people tell let's call it Billy

0:23:30.280 --> 0:23:34.000
<v Speaker 1>ray Brown or Steve Ellington or whoever might be the

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<v Speaker 1>greatest swinger of the golf club, oh, you should win

0:23:37.160 --> 0:23:42.400
<v Speaker 1>every tournament with your swinging um, and then they put

0:23:42.400 --> 0:23:45.639
<v Speaker 1>more pressure on themselves to put better. You know, when

0:23:45.680 --> 0:23:49.560
<v Speaker 1>when players hit the ball well, they don't make seem

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<v Speaker 1>to make as many birdie putts as they do par putts.

0:23:52.119 --> 0:23:55.359
<v Speaker 1>And there's a psychology to that, and why so I

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<v Speaker 1>always try and ask the player what is it they've

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<v Speaker 1>felt the best that when they've putted their best? You know,

0:24:00.359 --> 0:24:02.840
<v Speaker 1>do they do they have thoughts? What are the thoughts

0:24:02.840 --> 0:24:06.879
<v Speaker 1>are they? Fields? Can you see shapes, colors, stripes? What

0:24:06.920 --> 0:24:08.520
<v Speaker 1>do you see when you're out there, do you do you?

0:24:08.760 --> 0:24:11.119
<v Speaker 1>What are your senses? Like? You know, you've got to

0:24:11.480 --> 0:24:14.359
<v Speaker 1>you've got to really get inside a player. And you

0:24:14.400 --> 0:24:16.200
<v Speaker 1>know there are times one of the players when you're

0:24:16.200 --> 0:24:20.960
<v Speaker 1>completely lost shame where they have ten fifteen swing thoughts,

0:24:21.000 --> 0:24:23.800
<v Speaker 1>stroke fought where you gotta say, Okay, I've got to

0:24:23.840 --> 0:24:25.960
<v Speaker 1>find a way to get this guy back to ground

0:24:26.040 --> 0:24:30.720
<v Speaker 1>zero where he has just one. And it takes time,

0:24:31.800 --> 0:24:36.359
<v Speaker 1>and it takes thoughtfulness. And and I'm a believer that

0:24:36.400 --> 0:24:39.000
<v Speaker 1>you don't have to be perfect to put you know,

0:24:39.040 --> 0:24:41.040
<v Speaker 1>there's there's too many guys I think that want to

0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:45.359
<v Speaker 1>make sure that putter faces aimed perfectly at address. They

0:24:45.359 --> 0:24:47.639
<v Speaker 1>want to make sure that ball starts directly on the

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<v Speaker 1>line every single time. And I'm not that guy. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe there's there's a lot of different ways that ball

0:24:53.680 --> 0:24:56.000
<v Speaker 1>can go on the whole um. The ball is much

0:24:56.000 --> 0:24:58.359
<v Speaker 1>smaller than the cup. You can you can pull or

0:24:58.359 --> 0:25:00.840
<v Speaker 1>push the shot and puttons to have them go in.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, there's there's guys that were risky strokers.

0:25:06.880 --> 0:25:10.440
<v Speaker 1>There were shoulder strokers or arms strokers, and and now

0:25:10.480 --> 0:25:13.119
<v Speaker 1>the way that players hold onto the putter, I mean,

0:25:13.160 --> 0:25:16.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't even think that the conventional right hand low

0:25:16.000 --> 0:25:18.960
<v Speaker 1>grip for right handed player, it's the most popular grip.

0:25:18.960 --> 0:25:21.879
<v Speaker 1>And if it is, it's not by much. So for

0:25:21.960 --> 0:25:25.199
<v Speaker 1>somebody to come up with a statement that says, well,

0:25:25.200 --> 0:25:28.120
<v Speaker 1>this is all you have to do is hunting takes,

0:25:28.160 --> 0:25:31.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, coming around too long. And I think I'm

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<v Speaker 1>proudest as a as a player and a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>had a reputation for being a good putter to have

0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:40.600
<v Speaker 1>been able to do it for decades. And I don't

0:25:40.760 --> 0:25:44.320
<v Speaker 1>I say that humbly. I don't say that, um with

0:25:44.400 --> 0:25:47.680
<v Speaker 1>any kind of ego, because I worked my tail off

0:25:47.880 --> 0:25:51.560
<v Speaker 1>at becoming a better putter. I spent a lot of

0:25:51.600 --> 0:25:54.720
<v Speaker 1>time with Scotty Cameron and the Scottie Cameron studio, looking

0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:57.080
<v Speaker 1>at strokes, different strokes, how the ball leaves the putter,

0:25:57.720 --> 0:25:59.639
<v Speaker 1>and talking to players, well, how do they think? What

0:25:59.680 --> 0:26:02.639
<v Speaker 1>do they thinking about? Um? So, you know, the hardest

0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:07.040
<v Speaker 1>question and the most often ask question I get is

0:26:07.359 --> 0:26:10.160
<v Speaker 1>can you just give me one thing? What's the one thing?

0:26:11.119 --> 0:26:13.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, God, I wish I had that one thing.

0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:16.040
<v Speaker 1>I could you know, put in a jar and put

0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:17.840
<v Speaker 1>it on the shelf at CBS and you could just

0:26:17.880 --> 0:26:20.280
<v Speaker 1>go by this one thing that would help everybody. We

0:26:20.400 --> 0:26:24.439
<v Speaker 1>would all be better off. Is this the easiest major

0:26:24.560 --> 0:26:29.080
<v Speaker 1>for a bad putter to win at? Well, that's a

0:26:29.080 --> 0:26:36.440
<v Speaker 1>great question, there's to To me, the hardest greens to

0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:40.880
<v Speaker 1>put were always the flattest greens to put. Remember going

0:26:40.920 --> 0:26:45.800
<v Speaker 1>to to best page black and early two thousand two,

0:26:45.880 --> 0:26:50.080
<v Speaker 1>I think um and a lot of people that were

0:26:50.080 --> 0:26:52.040
<v Speaker 1>familiar with the golf course said, oh, you're gonna play

0:26:52.080 --> 0:26:54.399
<v Speaker 1>great there. These greens are so simple. Every puts a

0:26:54.480 --> 0:26:57.960
<v Speaker 1>straight put. And what they meant by that was you

0:26:57.960 --> 0:26:59.520
<v Speaker 1>didn't have to play a lot of break. And I

0:26:59.560 --> 0:27:02.439
<v Speaker 1>thought they are the most difficult holes to read, dreams

0:27:02.520 --> 0:27:06.240
<v Speaker 1>to read. And I'd much prefer to put greens that

0:27:06.359 --> 0:27:09.840
<v Speaker 1>had a lot of obvious slope, like Augusta National Um

0:27:10.520 --> 0:27:13.360
<v Speaker 1>or Shinnecock, where you knew that there was a lot

0:27:13.400 --> 0:27:16.440
<v Speaker 1>of break, but it was obvious what that break was um.

0:27:16.640 --> 0:27:19.480
<v Speaker 1>So straighter puts were tougher to me at most of

0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:24.200
<v Speaker 1>the times of British Open a road to the half

0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:27.520
<v Speaker 1>tamer greens or a little bit slower greens. And I

0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:30.600
<v Speaker 1>think slower greens test the quality of the player's stroke too,

0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:33.639
<v Speaker 1>because you have to be you know, you have to

0:27:33.680 --> 0:27:37.120
<v Speaker 1>take a longer stroke, the faces opening and closing. More so,

0:27:38.080 --> 0:27:40.840
<v Speaker 1>slower greens and flatter greens were always the most difficult

0:27:40.840 --> 0:27:43.600
<v Speaker 1>in my opinion. I just want to take one more

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<v Speaker 1>get back to Mr Paxon. All right, I need your pick,

0:28:26.960 --> 0:28:28.760
<v Speaker 1>I know, and I am good, for goodness sakes, I

0:28:28.800 --> 0:28:30.600
<v Speaker 1>know how you do this normally, Normally give me like

0:28:30.640 --> 0:28:35.639
<v Speaker 1>seven people. I need one person, Brad, just one that

0:28:35.760 --> 0:28:38.200
<v Speaker 1>you think we'll walk away with the Clare jugg And

0:28:38.240 --> 0:28:39.880
<v Speaker 1>I know picking is a little silly for any of

0:28:39.880 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 1>these major championships, but you know, somebody that I think

0:28:42.200 --> 0:28:44.920
<v Speaker 1>you feel like has a really, really good chance. I

0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:50.200
<v Speaker 1>think I think I'm gonna be very happy picking Dustin Johnson. Okay,

0:28:50.760 --> 0:28:53.400
<v Speaker 1>he's played well in British Opens. He's knocking on the door.

0:28:55.080 --> 0:28:57.280
<v Speaker 1>Like you said, if it's true that you don't have

0:28:57.360 --> 0:28:59.000
<v Speaker 1>to be the best putter in the world. I think

0:28:59.000 --> 0:29:01.400
<v Speaker 1>he's a confident putter now. I think he's been able

0:29:01.440 --> 0:29:07.160
<v Speaker 1>to keep it. I'm complicated that I looked up, you know,

0:29:07.320 --> 0:29:10.440
<v Speaker 1>and I very surprise if he's not at least in contention.

0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:14.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's it's silly. That's just one guy. I'm

0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:16.400
<v Speaker 1>im prised you picked the one number one player in

0:29:16.400 --> 0:29:18.320
<v Speaker 1>the world. Way to go on that um, but I

0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:19.920
<v Speaker 1>mean he is the guy that I think you you

0:29:20.000 --> 0:29:21.960
<v Speaker 1>have to look at as somebody that's coming in with,

0:29:22.360 --> 0:29:24.520
<v Speaker 1>as you mentioned, all of the tools for this type

0:29:24.520 --> 0:29:26.040
<v Speaker 1>of thing, and it's gonna be to me, it's going

0:29:26.080 --> 0:29:27.760
<v Speaker 1>to be kind of a second shot pitching kind of

0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:29.720
<v Speaker 1>golf course and it's very much a part of his

0:29:29.760 --> 0:29:33.760
<v Speaker 1>game that he's improved on. So would you say for

0:29:33.840 --> 0:29:36.320
<v Speaker 1>people out there that are looking at their pools and

0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:39.000
<v Speaker 1>they're looking at the guys to pick, and they they're

0:29:39.080 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 1>itching to pick Tiger, what do you say to those people?

0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:43.200
<v Speaker 1>Do you think Tiger's got a top ten and them

0:29:43.240 --> 0:29:44.960
<v Speaker 1>the top five in him? Do you think that he

0:29:45.200 --> 0:29:51.160
<v Speaker 1>legitimately can win this? Yes, yes to all of them. Um,

0:29:52.240 --> 0:29:56.040
<v Speaker 1>I think that CANUSI of of all the open courses

0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:58.320
<v Speaker 1>I've played it, it kind of can tell you what

0:29:58.320 --> 0:30:01.760
<v Speaker 1>shot you want to hit. But that being said, if

0:30:01.840 --> 0:30:05.840
<v Speaker 1>if he's not confident off the tea and I remember

0:30:05.920 --> 0:30:08.280
<v Speaker 1>him hitting I believe on the first t shot his

0:30:08.480 --> 0:30:10.320
<v Speaker 1>iron out of bounds, I got out of bounds, but

0:30:10.360 --> 0:30:13.680
<v Speaker 1>into the burn on the left. If he's not comfortable

0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:16.120
<v Speaker 1>off the team, we've seen that with him. You know,

0:30:16.160 --> 0:30:19.240
<v Speaker 1>he's been a little erratic, uh this year with his game.

0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:21.800
<v Speaker 1>He's he's had you know, stints where he looks like

0:30:21.880 --> 0:30:24.440
<v Speaker 1>Tiger Woods and then he says, since where you're going?

0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:29.640
<v Speaker 1>Who is this guy? It's it's it's definitely been kind

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:30.960
<v Speaker 1>of a role to die. Of course, you and I

0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:32.920
<v Speaker 1>were calling the U s open and he comes out

0:30:32.920 --> 0:30:34.440
<v Speaker 1>of the first hole and makes triple and we're going,

0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:36.760
<v Speaker 1>oh goodness, it was It was actually funny, I mean

0:30:36.840 --> 0:30:39.400
<v Speaker 1>funny for us. You and I had filmed something for

0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:43.680
<v Speaker 1>titlists and we did these little segments, these complete performance segments,

0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:45.760
<v Speaker 1>and you know, we we were kind of tricked trying

0:30:45.760 --> 0:30:48.120
<v Speaker 1>to sneak around Shinnecock to do him and not disturb

0:30:48.160 --> 0:30:50.480
<v Speaker 1>any of the players during their practice rounds. And it

0:30:50.560 --> 0:30:53.160
<v Speaker 1>was late I think it was Wednesday, and the first

0:30:53.160 --> 0:30:54.680
<v Speaker 1>hole was clear, so we got a chance to do

0:30:54.760 --> 0:30:56.560
<v Speaker 1>something on the first hole, and then we went to

0:30:56.600 --> 0:30:59.040
<v Speaker 1>the green and you were going to talk about pitching

0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:01.880
<v Speaker 1>the ball and kind of different options around Shinnecock, and

0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:03.280
<v Speaker 1>you were like, this is a great place to do it.

0:31:03.360 --> 0:31:05.520
<v Speaker 1>Long on one is a really really bad spot. And

0:31:05.560 --> 0:31:07.320
<v Speaker 1>you hit a few shots, and you know, we did

0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:09.360
<v Speaker 1>a couple of takes of it and you and I

0:31:09.360 --> 0:31:12.480
<v Speaker 1>are calling action and Tiger hit it almost exactly where

0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:15.560
<v Speaker 1>we've done the complete performance thing from and you knew

0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:20.240
<v Speaker 1>how hard that shot was. Well that the green fell off,

0:31:20.800 --> 0:31:22.280
<v Speaker 1>you know a lot of the greens at that page

0:31:22.280 --> 0:31:25.360
<v Speaker 1>fell off on all sides. You know, the the new

0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:29.920
<v Speaker 1>architecture there closely mowing areas where that was the buzzword

0:31:29.960 --> 0:31:32.280
<v Speaker 1>and the first hole and when we tied was posing

0:31:32.280 --> 0:31:35.120
<v Speaker 1>on that second shot. It was into the wind. That

0:31:35.160 --> 0:31:37.840
<v Speaker 1>hole can be drivable, and you know he's looking at

0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:39.840
<v Speaker 1>his eight iron from a hundred and fifty yards and

0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:42.960
<v Speaker 1>this thing just sort over the green down into some

0:31:43.120 --> 0:31:45.800
<v Speaker 1>row exactly where we hit those shots, and the little

0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:51.000
<v Speaker 1>stiffets for titliston and we knew that, hey, let's not

0:31:51.040 --> 0:31:53.600
<v Speaker 1>be silly here. You've hit a bad shot here over

0:31:53.640 --> 0:31:56.240
<v Speaker 1>the green, this is the first hole. Five's okay, let's

0:31:56.280 --> 0:31:59.080
<v Speaker 1>just get out of there. And then you know, somehow

0:31:59.160 --> 0:32:01.600
<v Speaker 1>you eat doesn't get his first shot of rolls right

0:32:01.640 --> 0:32:06.280
<v Speaker 1>back to his feet, and uh, you felt so bad

0:32:06.360 --> 0:32:09.640
<v Speaker 1>for him because he didn't hit a shot. We watched

0:32:09.640 --> 0:32:13.600
<v Speaker 1>that happened to Jordan's speech on number Yeah, you get

0:32:13.600 --> 0:32:15.280
<v Speaker 1>you get out of position. It was It was a

0:32:15.280 --> 0:32:17.320
<v Speaker 1>perfect example of what us opens are about. Is like

0:32:17.320 --> 0:32:20.000
<v Speaker 1>you get out of position by a foot and you

0:32:20.200 --> 0:32:22.680
<v Speaker 1>are you might have ruined your tournament chances or your

0:32:22.720 --> 0:32:24.880
<v Speaker 1>championship chances. And we saw that with Speed on eleven,

0:32:24.880 --> 0:32:26.760
<v Speaker 1>and we saw it with Tiger one. It's been a

0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:29.360
<v Speaker 1>fun summer. We've got a chance to I would say

0:32:29.440 --> 0:32:33.000
<v Speaker 1>knockout in terms of broadcasting some of the best courses

0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:35.680
<v Speaker 1>that we that you'll ever see. And I mean last

0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:37.480
<v Speaker 1>week was was a great example that. I mean, a

0:32:37.560 --> 0:32:41.160
<v Speaker 1>chance to showcase Chicago Golf Club. You you're a guy

0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:43.920
<v Speaker 1>that loves the history of the game, and I know,

0:32:44.000 --> 0:32:45.760
<v Speaker 1>getting a chance to go there and do that was

0:32:45.760 --> 0:32:47.600
<v Speaker 1>pretty special. I know it was special for me. But

0:32:48.040 --> 0:32:50.120
<v Speaker 1>just to showcase a play like a place like Chicago

0:32:50.160 --> 0:32:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Golf Club, you know that maybe most of the people

0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:56.040
<v Speaker 1>that are watching have never seen even video of it.

0:32:57.480 --> 0:32:59.880
<v Speaker 1>And that's one of the reasons, Shane, that there were

0:33:00.000 --> 0:33:02.320
<v Speaker 1>so many spectators out there too that they obviously came

0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:04.880
<v Speaker 1>to watch good golf from the senior women, but they

0:33:04.920 --> 0:33:08.520
<v Speaker 1>wanted to be on the hallowed grounds of Chicago Golf.

0:33:08.560 --> 0:33:11.880
<v Speaker 1>And you know we've talked about see the McDonald and

0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:16.600
<v Speaker 1>Seth Rayner, this team that you could argue that they

0:33:16.680 --> 0:33:18.840
<v Speaker 1>build maybe the best course in the world at National

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<v Speaker 1>Golf Links of America. And if you just went down

0:33:22.120 --> 0:33:24.320
<v Speaker 1>the list of the golf courses, it's you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a who's who of courses and uh in features and

0:33:28.640 --> 0:33:32.840
<v Speaker 1>they have these different templates of holes that they've copied

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<v Speaker 1>and we we've we know these household words like red,

0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:42.680
<v Speaker 1>Dan h Eden bear, it's you know, it's just it's fun.

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<v Speaker 1>And and to watch these players try and figure out

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<v Speaker 1>ways to hit even just short shots and get them

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<v Speaker 1>somehow close to the green. I'll tell you what Chicago

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<v Speaker 1>Golf is that we got to go back there and

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<v Speaker 1>play shanks. It's so good. And you that's the one thing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I get a like, I'm sure you get

0:34:00.880 --> 0:34:03.400
<v Speaker 1>these questions too, but you know, I'll post a picture

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagram or talk about it on Twitter or something

0:34:05.720 --> 0:34:08.040
<v Speaker 1>when we first get there, and the most questions I

0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:10.080
<v Speaker 1>get are, you know, how was it? You know you

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<v Speaker 1>got to play it? Blah blah blah. And I said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we we really only play a media day

0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:15.640
<v Speaker 1>at the US Open. You know, we don't our schedules

0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:17.359
<v Speaker 1>so busy, we don't really have time to do that.

0:34:17.800 --> 0:34:19.680
<v Speaker 1>And uh and those are the weeks where you walk

0:34:19.680 --> 0:34:22.320
<v Speaker 1>off and you go, it's like six pm. Maybe we

0:34:22.360 --> 0:34:24.719
<v Speaker 1>could sneak out on the back end of this championship

0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:27.080
<v Speaker 1>and get eighteen holes in And I know, uh, I

0:34:27.120 --> 0:34:29.080
<v Speaker 1>know you'd be there as well. I know you you

0:34:29.080 --> 0:34:30.759
<v Speaker 1>you you tow the clubs out there as well. When

0:34:30.760 --> 0:34:32.600
<v Speaker 1>we get a chance to go around those types of places.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, the schedule continues. You and I get

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<v Speaker 1>to do the Junior am at Baltic for all this

0:34:36.400 --> 0:34:38.600
<v Speaker 1>week and then and then we'll be at the Women's

0:34:38.640 --> 0:34:40.360
<v Speaker 1>Am and then the US Amateur which is at Pebble.

0:34:40.480 --> 0:34:43.480
<v Speaker 1>So the kind of our our great summer continues. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's been a lot of a lot of fun. And uh,

0:34:45.480 --> 0:34:47.160
<v Speaker 1>of course, you and I kind of getting a new

0:34:47.200 --> 0:34:50.040
<v Speaker 1>opportunity to do this, teamed up with Joe and Paul

0:34:50.120 --> 0:34:52.359
<v Speaker 1>on a lot of the championships has been a It's

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<v Speaker 1>been a ton of fun. I know, I've really enjoyed it,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, you know, I I hope it continues because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I get to sit next to you and

0:34:58.640 --> 0:35:00.560
<v Speaker 1>as much crap as I give you, it's been a

0:35:00.600 --> 0:35:03.480
<v Speaker 1>ton of fun. Hey, I love being able to do

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<v Speaker 1>There's nobody better in the business. It cares more than

0:35:05.760 --> 0:35:08.400
<v Speaker 1>you do. So I hope this parent goes on for

0:35:08.440 --> 0:35:11.279
<v Speaker 1>a long time. So I will see you. I will

0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:13.879
<v Speaker 1>see you at Baltic Rawl in a few days. Open

0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:17.000
<v Speaker 1>obviously starts on Thursday. You heard it from Brad Facts

0:35:17.040 --> 0:35:19.600
<v Speaker 1>and he's picking Dustin Johnson. I haven't decided who I

0:35:19.640 --> 0:35:21.960
<v Speaker 1>am picking yet. Uh. I think I'm gonna go with

0:35:22.040 --> 0:35:24.160
<v Speaker 1>the European but I haven't decided that yet. I gotta

0:35:24.160 --> 0:35:26.200
<v Speaker 1>figure it out. But Brad, I appreciate you taking the time.

0:35:26.200 --> 0:35:28.400
<v Speaker 1>I know you gotta jump on a flight and I

0:35:28.440 --> 0:35:30.040
<v Speaker 1>will see you. I will see you later this week.

0:35:30.160 --> 0:35:35.319
<v Speaker 1>Thank you. It looks like I'm a wreck. A big

0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:37.359
<v Speaker 1>thanks to Brad for jumping on. I know he's very

0:35:37.400 --> 0:35:39.799
<v Speaker 1>busy as our summer continues to roll on. Will be

0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:41.520
<v Speaker 1>at Baltic Raw at the US JR Ameter. If you

0:35:41.560 --> 0:35:43.400
<v Speaker 1>see us out there, make sure you say hello. And

0:35:43.440 --> 0:35:45.200
<v Speaker 1>the Open rolls through this weekend. We'll have a new

0:35:45.239 --> 0:35:49.040
<v Speaker 1>major champion or a repeat major champion comes Sunday at Carnoustie.

0:35:49.320 --> 0:35:51.080
<v Speaker 1>And just to reminder, when it comes to golf equipment,

0:35:51.080 --> 0:35:53.120
<v Speaker 1>we always want a new driver, we always want a

0:35:53.120 --> 0:35:55.160
<v Speaker 1>better golf ball. The one thing that never gets the

0:35:55.239 --> 0:35:58.040
<v Speaker 1>right attention is the thing that holds and protects your clubs.

0:35:58.320 --> 0:36:00.799
<v Speaker 1>It's an essential part of your encore fashion. It's your

0:36:00.840 --> 0:36:02.840
<v Speaker 1>golf bag. Treat yourself to an upgrade the day with

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0:36:05.719 --> 0:36:07.880
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0:36:07.880 --> 0:36:10.839
<v Speaker 1>hands on a Sirius today. Stop carrying around a golf

0:36:10.880 --> 0:36:12.799
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0:36:12.800 --> 0:36:15.720
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0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:19.439
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0:36:19.520 --> 0:36:22.680
<v Speaker 1>enjoyed the pod. We'll be back next week as as

0:36:22.760 --> 0:36:24.759
<v Speaker 1>kind of the summer of golf for rolls on for

0:36:24.880 --> 0:36:27.720
<v Speaker 1>us that at Fox and FS one. The schedule lightens

0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:29.040
<v Speaker 1>up a little bit after ball at this s raw

0:36:29.120 --> 0:36:31.400
<v Speaker 1>and then we get into the amateurs, both the Women's

0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:33.640
<v Speaker 1>and the US Amateur back to back, and then we're

0:36:33.640 --> 0:36:36.319
<v Speaker 1>gonna broadcast the mid Amateur as well, and then I

0:36:36.360 --> 0:36:38.759
<v Speaker 1>will lay in a prone position on my couch for

0:36:39.040 --> 0:36:41.680
<v Speaker 1>basically all of the end of September. We'll be back

0:36:41.719 --> 0:36:43.239
<v Speaker 1>next week. I hope you guys enjoy the Open. Hope

0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:45.560
<v Speaker 1>you enjoyed the enjoy the US Junior Amateur, and we

0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:47.120
<v Speaker 1>will chat with you and if you get a chance,

0:36:47.239 --> 0:36:49.520
<v Speaker 1>play a little golf on Sunday afternoon after the Open

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<v Speaker 1>ends and make a couple of birdies.