WEBVTT - The Seasoned Lawry’s Episode

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to save your prediction of iHeartRadio. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Annie Reason and I'm Lauren Vogelbaum, and today we have

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<v Speaker 1>an episode for you about Lowry's Yes, the seasoned salt

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<v Speaker 1>and the restaurant. It's both. I didn't really realize this,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is very much both.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't realize it either. I didn't know about the restaurant,

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<v Speaker 2>so this was a fun one. I learned a lot

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<v Speaker 2>me too. Yes, yes, genuinely really fun. Like, yes, genuinely

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<v Speaker 2>really fun. Opened up a lot of rabbit holes as always.

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<v Speaker 2>But was there any particular reason this was on your mind?

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<v Speaker 1>Lauren?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Was there? I should be better prepared for this question.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that you're not. It's great. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>had been on my list for a while as one

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<v Speaker 1>of those things that I kind of sometimes my episode

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<v Speaker 1>topic selection process involves like going to my kitchen cabinets

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<v Speaker 1>and digging through them and seeing what brands we haven't

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<v Speaker 1>talked about yet, and I strongly suspect this was one

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<v Speaker 1>of those, but who knows. It is also, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like grilling season here in the United States and Lowry

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<v Speaker 1>Season salt is a very popular addition to grilled proteins,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, and all kinds of things and everything else.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, as we were doing this research, I looked in

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<v Speaker 2>my own cabinets as well, and I do have some Lowy's.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I have.

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<v Speaker 2>Womon pepper Okay, yeah, it wasn't the original flavor.

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<v Speaker 1>I have some other interesting huh. Yeah. Yes, Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>I would love listeners write in about you'll look in

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<v Speaker 2>your own dabit and see what you have.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm positive that some of

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<v Speaker 1>y'all already are composing emails, so we're ready looking forward

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<v Speaker 1>to hearing from you. Yes, also unrelated to Lowry's, but

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<v Speaker 1>we do have a bit of an announcement to make.

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<v Speaker 1>So there is a PRX Podcast Creator Summit, which is

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<v Speaker 1>an ongoing series of podcast conventions for creators to get

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<v Speaker 1>together and kind of talk about how to do like

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<v Speaker 1>like like what what the podcasting field is like, and

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<v Speaker 1>how to make one and put it out there and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the entire creative process. And it's coming to

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta in July, and they got in touch with us

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<v Speaker 1>and asked us to come do a panel about food podcasting.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you are in the Atlanta area and would

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<v Speaker 1>like to come see us talk to some they're really

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<v Speaker 1>cool humans, possibly cooler than us humans about food podcasting

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<v Speaker 1>that is happening on July thirtieth from seven to nine

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<v Speaker 1>pm here in Atlanta. The panel is called Feeding the

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<v Speaker 1>Culture telling Atlanta's Food Stories. So yes, definitely come check

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<v Speaker 1>it out. And they have a lot of other content.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, so much programming. I think I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be super cool. Yes, I do too, So yes,

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<v Speaker 1>let us know if you're coming. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but okay, yeah, So back to back to Lowri's. For

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<v Speaker 1>other related topics, you can definitely see are McCormick episode.

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<v Speaker 1>This one reminded me a little bit of Stofers as

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<v Speaker 1>well in terms of brands that I didn't know had

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<v Speaker 1>a bustling restaurant industry.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's true, you're right, I forgot about that. But

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<v Speaker 2>I guess this does bring us to our question. Sure, yes, Lowries,

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<v Speaker 2>what is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Lowy's is a brand of seasonings that originated in

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<v Speaker 1>a steakhouse by the name of Lowy's The Prime Rib.

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<v Speaker 1>The seasonings and the restaurants are two different companies. Now

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to be talking about both of them. So

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<v Speaker 1>the Prime Rib is a place that literally only served

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<v Speaker 1>prime rib as an entree only entree on their menu

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<v Speaker 1>for fifty five years. Yep. It's a very old fashioned

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<v Speaker 1>white tablecloth everything table side, kind of like theatrical dining experience.

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<v Speaker 1>And they created the original seasoning to go on their

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<v Speaker 1>prime rib but also their salads and sides. That original

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<v Speaker 1>seasoning is a seasoned salt blend made up of salt, sugar, peprika,

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<v Speaker 1>celery seed, turmeric, onion, and garlic, a few things for

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<v Speaker 1>texture and or to prevent caking, and smaller amounts of

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<v Speaker 1>a few other herbs and spices like basil, for example.

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<v Speaker 1>And people will use this seasoning on anything and everything

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<v Speaker 1>as a dry rub on proteins of whatever kind, on

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<v Speaker 1>vegetables or potatoes or casseroles in the flour dredge for

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<v Speaker 1>breaded fried foods, as a table seasoning for things that

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<v Speaker 1>we're not cooked with it to begin with. It is

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<v Speaker 1>very popular, if perhaps considered like a little bit basic

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<v Speaker 1>in these are modern times. It's a really pretty orange

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<v Speaker 1>color from the paprika, and it's just it's a good

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<v Speaker 1>balance of like salty, sweet, heady savory. So it adds

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<v Speaker 1>just like a nice little zing but not too much

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<v Speaker 1>zing to whatever you're making or eating.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's really pleasant. It's like a nice Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>so good. Yeah, kind of easy, you know what. I

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<v Speaker 2>just want to give this a little bit more flavor.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I don't want to think about it too hard.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to shake something on it. Oh, I've

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<v Speaker 1>done that. Great, let's go. And I forgot to write

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of poetic thing into here, and we

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<v Speaker 1>just got a lot of Supreme Court cases in this morning,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm just going to keep going. I'm not sorry

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<v Speaker 1>about it, y'all. Well, we'll come back and be poetic

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<v Speaker 1>about something else later. A heck all right. So Lowry's

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<v Speaker 1>Restaurants is a family owned group that currently operates and

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<v Speaker 1>or licenses fourteen restaurants, all beef heavy in the United

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<v Speaker 1>States and internationally. Like literally every single one of them

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<v Speaker 1>features Prime Rib. This is sort of a theme. The

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<v Speaker 1>Prime Rib flagship location is in Beverly Hills. There's one

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<v Speaker 1>in Vegas. They do have other entrees now, like lamb chops,

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<v Speaker 1>lobster tails, salmon rockefeller, even a cauliflower steak or other

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<v Speaker 1>seasonal vegetarian offering. They offer apps like shrimp cocktail or

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<v Speaker 1>steak tartar or lobster bisk Sides like creamed corn, creamed spinach,

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<v Speaker 1>baked potatoes, mashed potatoes, and gravy, maybe a grilled asparagus.

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<v Speaker 1>The baked potatoes are dressed table side with toppings like

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<v Speaker 1>bacon bits and shives and sour cream and butter. The

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<v Speaker 1>basic salad, which is lettuce and chopped eck and croutons,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe with other vegs added in, It is also mixed

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<v Speaker 1>table side, like in this specific nested bowl setup. It's

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<v Speaker 1>called the spinning salad, And so it's a nested bowl

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<v Speaker 1>set up. They've got crushed ice in the outer bowl

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<v Speaker 1>and the server will spin the inner bowl real fast

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<v Speaker 1>to like distribute the vinegarette and chill the salad. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a whole thing. But yeah, just like really classic mid

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<v Speaker 1>twentieth century American steakhouse kind of situation. They also have

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<v Speaker 1>locations of the Prime Rib in nine or ten real

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<v Speaker 1>swanky neighborhoods and cities around East and Southeast Asia, with

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<v Speaker 1>like the same table side carts and the same staff

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<v Speaker 1>uniforms and mostly all the same menu items, which at

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<v Speaker 1>a certain point is wild to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, but they are definitely the restaurant that gives

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<v Speaker 2>a restaurant that gives that vibe of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the experience. Yes, yeah, this is what it is. Oh, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk a lot about that, but probably

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<v Speaker 1>more humans are familiar with the seasoning. The brand is

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<v Speaker 1>now owned by McCormick and Company. And yeah, that original

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<v Speaker 1>blend also has a low sodium version and a version

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<v Speaker 1>with black pepper added. The brand does have other seasoning

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<v Speaker 1>blends like a garb like salt lemon pepper, Jerk Seasoning,

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<v Speaker 1>Cajun Seasoning, Nashville Hot seasoning mixes for things like tacos, chili,

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<v Speaker 1>spaghetti sauce, and Sloppy Joe's, plus a line of bottled

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<v Speaker 1>sauces and or marinades like a like a honey taraiaki

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<v Speaker 1>and a Cuban style mahome. There's also a few like

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<v Speaker 1>just straight up spices under the Lowry's label, like you

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<v Speaker 1>know Bay leaves. Here's some Cuban. Yeah. There's one blend

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<v Speaker 1>name that I find a little bit aggressive. It's called

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<v Speaker 1>Total Seasoning. Oh no, I mean it's just like garlic

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<v Speaker 1>and onion and like a Regino Parsley's Lantro extract. But

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<v Speaker 1>total seasoning, I mean emphasis added. But yes, I think

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<v Speaker 1>they probably wanted to be there. I think you're correct.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say that you can definitely make your own

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<v Speaker 1>seasoning blends at home, and there are many do recipes

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<v Speaker 1>out there if you want to look them up.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, yes, this is something I sometimes encounter because

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<v Speaker 2>I just grew up. You know, you reach for like

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<v Speaker 2>Chinese fi spies, for example, and I find so many

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<v Speaker 2>recipes that are like, you can just make that.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't have it, do you have these things?

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<v Speaker 1>You probably have these other things. Yeah, you can make it.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, what about the nutrition. Okay, don't eat brands,

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<v Speaker 1>don't brands, steakhouse experiences like the Prime Rib, do Countess treats.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't worry too hard about salt unless that is specifically

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<v Speaker 1>a thing that like your personal health or family history

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<v Speaker 1>tell you that you should worry about. There was an

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<v Speaker 1>over emphasis for a long time, I think on worrying

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<v Speaker 1>about salt in the United States, like drink water for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, yeah, yeah, if you're worried about it,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah yeah, a medical professional.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah absolutely, And you know, and if it's a thing

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<v Speaker 1>that you do need to be worried about, then yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe make your own at home that doesn't contain salt.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I did want to put in here,

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<v Speaker 1>And this is one of many side quests that, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I argued with myself about including, but I found this

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<v Speaker 1>so interesting that I wanted to say it out loud. So, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States, you don't have to list all

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<v Speaker 1>of the ingredients in a packaged food if they're in

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<v Speaker 1>there in small enough amounts and or if they can

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<v Speaker 1>be lumped under certain terms like spices or natural flavors.

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<v Speaker 1>And it seems that Lowerries will not post a list

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<v Speaker 1>of everything that it contains, but if you ask a

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<v Speaker 1>specific question on the McCormick's product page for Lowries, they

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<v Speaker 1>will answer. That is why I specifically listed basil in

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<v Speaker 1>the description above that is not on their ingredients list.

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<v Speaker 1>And I can furthermore tell you that Lowry's Seasoned Salt

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<v Speaker 1>does not contain tomatoes, mustard, or yeast extract. It's also

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<v Speaker 1>suitable for vegans.

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<v Speaker 2>That's interesting, Okay, Yeah, I mean I like that they respond,

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<v Speaker 2>But you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I love prompt and decisive customer service so much. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's why I made this note because I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, ooh, this is thorough customer service.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, probably don't want anybody, I would hope don't

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<v Speaker 2>want anybody to get sick.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh sure, no. And that's exactly the thing, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like like people are writing in based on like specific

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<v Speaker 1>food allergies or like you know, alpha gl syndrome or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that, and so so, so it's really cool

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<v Speaker 1>that they respond, yes, very well, we do have some

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<v Speaker 1>numbers for you. Okay. So Lowry's, the Prime Rib restaurant,

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<v Speaker 1>has served over ten million pounds of beef over its

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<v Speaker 1>eighty plus years of service every month. Every month they

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<v Speaker 1>serve an average of eleven thousand, six hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>pounds of potatoes if you consider both mashed and baked.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my, you can order twenty two ounce steaks there.

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<v Speaker 1>They come in sizes up to twenty two ish ounces.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen up to twenty four at some locations or

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<v Speaker 1>at some points in the past. Those two ounces. It's

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<v Speaker 1>still is that yes, yes, wow. And the restaurant side

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<v Speaker 1>of the business is now a fourth generation, family owned

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<v Speaker 1>and full of personalities. I adore it out in La

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<v Speaker 1>You used to be able to tour the Lowry's seasoning factory,

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<v Speaker 1>and at its peak they hosted about fifty thousand visitors

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<v Speaker 1>a year. On the seasoning side, because the seasoning brand

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<v Speaker 1>is now owned by McCormick, you can obtain Lowry seasoned

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<v Speaker 1>salt in a one hundred and eighty pound drum. That's

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<v Speaker 1>like eighty kilos. That is, that's if I were to

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<v Speaker 1>turn into a pillar of season salt, that would be

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<v Speaker 1>more than one Lauren pillar worth of salt.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that's a lot. I mean again, my brain

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<v Speaker 2>is blue screening a little bit. Well, we do have

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<v Speaker 2>quite the history for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh we do. I'm so excited. Okay, Yes, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to get into that as soon as we get back

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you sponsor, Yes, thank you. Okay, So yes. The

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<v Speaker 2>history of Lowry's is a fascinating one, and it starts

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen thirty eight in Beverly Hills, Los Angeles, with

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<v Speaker 2>the opening of a very pash restaurant called Lowry's Prime Rib.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the brainchild of business partners and brothers in law,

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<v Speaker 2>Lawrence Frank and Walter Van de Camp. They served one thing,

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<v Speaker 2>Prime Rib with sides. It was meant to be a

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<v Speaker 2>whole production too, and it was. It was served off

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<v Speaker 2>of gleaming silver carts tableside as the meat was heated

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<v Speaker 2>from underneath by hot coals. When full, these carts could

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<v Speaker 2>weigh up to nine hundred pounds about four hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>eight kilos, heavy enough that the floor needed to be

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<v Speaker 2>reinforced with asphalt. The size included classics like cream spinach

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<v Speaker 2>and creamed corn.

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<v Speaker 1>Which arrived on the cart along with the beef and

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<v Speaker 1>the prime rib. Dinner included mashed potatoes and gravy Yorkshire

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<v Speaker 1>pudding which is like a sort of custardy popover bread,

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<v Speaker 1>a creamy horse bradish sauce, and that spun salad. And

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<v Speaker 1>the price at the time a dollar twenty five. That's

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<v Speaker 1>around twenty eight bucks in today's money, accounting for inflation,

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<v Speaker 1>which is still like a pretty awesome deal. You can

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<v Speaker 1>order the same thing from the same carts to this day,

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<v Speaker 1>but I will say it costs a bunch more than

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eight bucks. Yes it does.

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<v Speaker 2>Those cards, however, they were not so cheap, hmm. The

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<v Speaker 2>stainlessteel carts were designed in house, and the first two

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<v Speaker 2>alone represented twenty percent of their initial capital investment.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say, like, if you've never been to this place,

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<v Speaker 1>if you've never seen photographs from it. The carts are

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<v Speaker 1>like it's not just it's not like just like a

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<v Speaker 1>little serving trolley like it is this it looks kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like a like one of those streamliners. Like it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's like this very art deco just huge thing because

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<v Speaker 1>they've got an entire rack of prime rib inside of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And when they roll up, the server asks you what

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<v Speaker 1>specific cut of meat you would like and proceeds to

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<v Speaker 1>carve it off for you or I'm sorry, the carver,

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<v Speaker 1>not the server. Those are two different jobs, as I learned.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes we're speaking of okay, yeah, yeah, okay. So the

0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:58.800
<v Speaker 2>restaurant also makes other claims like being responsible for the

0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:02.480
<v Speaker 2>doggie bag and valet parking, which if so, I really

0:18:02.480 --> 0:18:08.480
<v Speaker 2>don't like valet parking. But and they only hired women servers,

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<v Speaker 2>and the servers had specific outfit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a uniform. It's this like kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>late eighteen hundreds inspired English made type uniform, not like

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<v Speaker 1>sexy maid like normal maide. It's like a it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a brown dress trimmed with like with like white cuffs

0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:28.840
<v Speaker 1>and collar and like a starched white apron and little

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<v Speaker 1>starched hat. Situation Yeah, the table side meat carvers can

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<v Speaker 1>be and usually are dudes. They wear like white chef

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<v Speaker 1>type uniforms with white gloves and a gold medallion on

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<v Speaker 1>like a big red piece of THI fabric, which signifies

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<v Speaker 1>that they have been through the carver training, which these

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<v Speaker 1>days takes you six months.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, they are very A lot of the things they

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<v Speaker 2>have are very specif think about like how high do

0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:04.119
<v Speaker 2>you have to stand aboor the gravy. They have a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of exact procedures. But I mean it seems to

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<v Speaker 2>have worked for them.

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<v Speaker 1>People like it. Yeah, they were inspired partially by like

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<v Speaker 1>this famed nineteenth century English restaurant, Simpson's in the Strand,

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<v Speaker 1>which is famed for roast meats, carved tableside and other

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<v Speaker 1>marks of classic service.

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<v Speaker 2>So yes, and until the nineties their menu only changed

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<v Speaker 2>in response to beef rations during World War Two and

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<v Speaker 2>they offered roast turkey in its place. We'll get more

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<v Speaker 2>into that later, Oh yes, we will. The menu changes.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness. So how does this relate to the seasoning? Well,

0:19:49.600 --> 0:19:52.640
<v Speaker 2>after the prime rob was carved, it needed to be seasoned.

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<v Speaker 2>It was supposed to be seasoned.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right, because it's not the kind of thing that

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<v Speaker 1>you cook with seasoning on it, other than maybe like

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<v Speaker 1>like cooking it on a bed of salt or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, which I would love to come back to

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<v Speaker 2>because I recently have prime rib and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>it could use some seasoning, but I feel like it's

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<v Speaker 2>rude in the United States something, so I didn't season it.

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<v Speaker 2>But now I read this and I was like, that

0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:19.720
<v Speaker 2>makes so much sense. Yeah, anyway, all right, so co

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<v Speaker 2>founder of the restaurant, Lawrence Frank, wanted to come up

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<v Speaker 2>with their own seasoning that was more than salt, according

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<v Speaker 2>to his son Richard Frank, for months, he tested out

0:20:30.119 --> 0:20:33.080
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of combinations of herbs and spices until he

0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:35.959
<v Speaker 2>arrived at something that he liked. It worked well, not

0:20:36.040 --> 0:20:39.119
<v Speaker 2>just for the prime rib, but also the sides. This

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<v Speaker 2>original mixture contained onion, garlic, paprika, turmeric, salt, and sugar

0:20:44.080 --> 0:20:46.639
<v Speaker 2>and was placed on all the tables next to the

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<v Speaker 2>salt and pepper.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it apparently contained seventeen herbs and spices and write

0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:54.679
<v Speaker 1>like the servers like tossed it with the salads and

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<v Speaker 1>we're told to suggest it for everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, And the customers really liked it, and they started

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<v Speaker 2>kind of pocketing it to take it home with.

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<v Speaker 1>Them, just just like oops and does that shape now yeap.

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<v Speaker 2>However, other sources claim that Frank came up with the

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<v Speaker 2>seasoning first at his in Vandicamp's other restaurant, which also

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<v Speaker 2>still exists, a Scottish tavern called tam O'Shanter, and that

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<v Speaker 2>it was originally used there under the name season all

0:21:24.520 --> 0:21:25.199
<v Speaker 2>spelled with a ze.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yes, whatever the case.

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<v Speaker 2>This pocketing of their salt gave Richard the idea to

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<v Speaker 2>sell it outside of the restaurant, and I read that

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<v Speaker 2>the first sales were made literally outside of the restaurant,

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<v Speaker 2>like from the back of a World War two jeep.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, you really liked it so so Richard set

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<v Speaker 2>up a separate company to make and distribute this salt,

0:21:51.760 --> 0:21:54.400
<v Speaker 2>and the grocery chain Ralphs became the first major chain

0:21:54.440 --> 0:21:56.880
<v Speaker 2>to start offering it in nineteen thirty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, the separate company was called logically Lowry's Foods, and

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<v Speaker 1>I read that Ralphs wound up carrying it because the

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<v Speaker 1>buyer for the grocery chain like eight at Lowry's restaurant

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<v Speaker 1>one day and liked the stuff so much that he

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<v Speaker 1>put in an order. But also okay, so like we

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<v Speaker 1>need to point out here that seasoned salt was a

0:22:20.560 --> 0:22:24.119
<v Speaker 1>new concept at the time, Like Lowry's was I believe

0:22:24.240 --> 0:22:27.680
<v Speaker 1>the first commercial brand of seasoned salt on the market.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it was a little bit revolutionary. You know, a

0:22:30.600 --> 0:22:34.000
<v Speaker 1>home cook could buy this one jar of seasoning. You

0:22:34.040 --> 0:22:35.359
<v Speaker 1>don't have to spend a bunch of money on a

0:22:35.359 --> 0:22:37.720
<v Speaker 1>bunch of different spices and like learn how to blend

0:22:37.760 --> 0:22:40.560
<v Speaker 1>them yourself, and it just ritzes up whatever you add

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<v Speaker 1>it to.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and for people who couldn't go to this fancy

0:22:46.440 --> 0:22:49.760
<v Speaker 2>restaurant for what one reason or another, it was nice.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like, okay, we go a little bit of

0:22:52.200 --> 0:22:55.440
<v Speaker 1>accessibility of the of the brand, sure, exactly.

0:22:55.640 --> 0:22:58.920
<v Speaker 2>And they were pretty they were pretty aggressive and advertising.

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<v Speaker 2>Reasoning was an early advertiser in Ebony magazine, for example,

0:23:03.720 --> 0:23:08.000
<v Speaker 2>which first debuted in nineteen forty five. I don't know

0:23:08.040 --> 0:23:10.800
<v Speaker 2>when they first ran the ads, but they said it

0:23:10.800 --> 0:23:11.399
<v Speaker 2>it was early on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. In nineteen fifty three, they opened a manufacturing

0:23:17.680 --> 0:23:21.280
<v Speaker 1>plant for Lowry's Foods out a little bit further east

0:23:21.280 --> 0:23:24.000
<v Speaker 1>in La Out on the northeast edge of Allegian Valley.

0:23:24.880 --> 0:23:28.919
<v Speaker 1>It served also as the headquarters for both branches of

0:23:28.960 --> 0:23:32.320
<v Speaker 1>the brand and included like test kitchens and labs and

0:23:32.440 --> 0:23:34.159
<v Speaker 1>the production lines for the spices.

0:23:35.520 --> 0:23:39.600
<v Speaker 2>And then in nineteen fifty nine, the company tapped designing

0:23:39.680 --> 0:23:42.960
<v Speaker 2>legend Saul Bass to design the L logo that is

0:23:42.960 --> 0:23:43.879
<v Speaker 2>still in use today.

0:23:44.600 --> 0:23:47.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like the guy who did the title sequences for

0:23:47.720 --> 0:23:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Vertigo and Psycho. That guy. Yeah. The logo's official name

0:23:55.359 --> 0:24:01.720
<v Speaker 1>is the Fanciful L, which which I think is some

0:24:01.800 --> 0:24:02.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of stage name for me.

0:24:03.680 --> 0:24:08.200
<v Speaker 2>But that's how you should introduce yourself at the podcast

0:24:08.240 --> 0:24:10.800
<v Speaker 2>thing we're doing, the Fanciful OL.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh. Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh. It was one of the first seasoning salts sold commercially,

0:24:18.200 --> 0:24:20.520
<v Speaker 2>and it was a real hit all across the US.

0:24:21.440 --> 0:24:24.720
<v Speaker 2>In the seventies, President Nixon enjoyed a snack of cottage

0:24:24.800 --> 0:24:28.080
<v Speaker 2>cheese seasoned with lowries. I have to say a lot

0:24:28.119 --> 0:24:29.720
<v Speaker 2>of stuff I read about this, I couldn't tell if

0:24:29.760 --> 0:24:30.920
<v Speaker 2>people were making fun.

0:24:30.720 --> 0:24:34.119
<v Speaker 1>Of him or not. But hard to say, hard to

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<v Speaker 1>say it, hard to say. Sounds good to me. Yeah, sure,

0:24:37.880 --> 0:24:43.600
<v Speaker 1>that sounds delicious. Uh Okay. Over the years, they expanded

0:24:43.800 --> 0:24:49.520
<v Speaker 1>that La Plant headquarters into this whole thing, this whole

0:24:49.560 --> 0:24:55.919
<v Speaker 1>like mission revival like hacienda themed tourist center where you

0:24:55.960 --> 0:25:00.399
<v Speaker 1>could tour the factory and like buy local Mexican Calie

0:25:00.480 --> 0:25:04.040
<v Speaker 1>themed gifts and Lowry's seasonings and like have like a

0:25:04.080 --> 0:25:07.440
<v Speaker 1>breezy lunch or dinner and drinks out on the garden grounds.

0:25:08.280 --> 0:25:11.480
<v Speaker 1>It was called Lowry's California Center, and by the mid

0:25:11.560 --> 0:25:15.119
<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventies they had like two or three restaurants on site,

0:25:15.640 --> 0:25:19.400
<v Speaker 1>one known for stake Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, stepping back a bit. In nineteen fifty six,

0:25:24.640 --> 0:25:27.320
<v Speaker 2>Lowry's Restaurant kicked off a tradition they called.

0:25:27.119 --> 0:25:29.000
<v Speaker 1>The Beef Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>Every year before the Rose Bowl, the restaurant invites teams

0:25:33.720 --> 0:25:36.320
<v Speaker 2>playing in the Rose Bowl to dine with them on

0:25:36.400 --> 0:25:37.080
<v Speaker 2>different nights.

0:25:37.840 --> 0:25:40.600
<v Speaker 1>Don't want to calls chaoss by having them on the

0:25:40.640 --> 0:25:41.080
<v Speaker 1>same night.

0:25:42.359 --> 0:25:46.440
<v Speaker 2>It started out as kind of an eating contest predictor

0:25:46.480 --> 0:25:51.240
<v Speaker 2>of who would win, but nowadays there is a per

0:25:51.320 --> 0:25:55.680
<v Speaker 2>person limit on meat portion size. I have to say

0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:59.679
<v Speaker 2>it is still pretty big to my non football playing

0:26:01.400 --> 0:26:05.520
<v Speaker 2>sixteen ounce serving followed by a twelve ounce second helping

0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:06.520
<v Speaker 2>if you would like.

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<v Speaker 1>It, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would say that. I would

0:26:10.440 --> 0:26:14.359
<v Speaker 1>say that twenty eight ounces is a hefty, hefty portion.

0:26:16.119 --> 0:26:22.120
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, apparently like that's relatively small potatoes or small

0:26:22.400 --> 0:26:26.320
<v Speaker 1>prime beef compared with what some of the players would

0:26:26.320 --> 0:26:29.760
<v Speaker 1>put away before the relative limitation.

0:26:32.080 --> 0:26:35.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I mean you can look it up some

0:26:35.560 --> 0:26:38.960
<v Speaker 2>of the past, like the teams who won versus what

0:26:39.040 --> 0:26:40.000
<v Speaker 2>they ate at this.

0:26:40.240 --> 0:26:41.000
<v Speaker 1>How much they ate.

0:26:41.440 --> 0:26:45.919
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's to me it was pretty shocking, but

0:26:48.080 --> 0:26:52.119
<v Speaker 2>it exists, should you like to look into it. Lowry

0:26:52.200 --> 0:26:55.760
<v Speaker 2>started expanding their restaurants to other cities in the nineteen seventies,

0:26:56.320 --> 0:27:00.840
<v Speaker 2>and they opened their first international location in nineteen ninety nine.

0:27:01.000 --> 0:27:07.359
<v Speaker 2>They also we mentioned menu changes. They added lobster and

0:27:07.440 --> 0:27:10.440
<v Speaker 2>fish to their menu in nineteen ninety three.

0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:16.320
<v Speaker 1>As alternative entrees, and this was again the first time

0:27:16.440 --> 0:27:19.560
<v Speaker 1>they had offered an entree other than prime rib in

0:27:19.640 --> 0:27:25.800
<v Speaker 1>fifty five years. It wasn't until twenty thirteen, I believe,

0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:30.439
<v Speaker 1>that they debuted another new entree, a grilled ribbi, for

0:27:30.480 --> 0:27:34.480
<v Speaker 1>their seventy fifth anniverse. Right, I want to point out

0:27:34.560 --> 0:27:36.760
<v Speaker 1>that a ribbi is the same cut as prime rab

0:27:36.920 --> 0:27:42.800
<v Speaker 1>It's just cooked differently. At the time, the publication Nation's

0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:46.199
<v Speaker 1>Restaurant News called it a bold move, but I'm not

0:27:46.400 --> 0:27:48.760
<v Speaker 1>entirely sure if they were being like a little sarcastic.

0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:53.600
<v Speaker 2>It's hard to say, because you and I were discussing before.

0:27:55.080 --> 0:27:59.840
<v Speaker 2>People took this real seriously, seriously customers.

0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:04.000
<v Speaker 1>They genuinely did. So. Part of this was right before

0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:08.800
<v Speaker 1>all of this happened. I think the grandson had taken

0:28:08.800 --> 0:28:13.720
<v Speaker 1>over for the restaurant group, and he had some bright

0:28:13.800 --> 0:28:18.879
<v Speaker 1>new ideas, you know, not to you know, he wanted

0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:25.080
<v Speaker 1>to respect the tradition. He didn't want to pivot, but compound,

0:28:25.359 --> 0:28:25.560
<v Speaker 1>you know.

0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:31.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he wanted to make sure the restaurant could continue

0:28:31.440 --> 0:28:35.800
<v Speaker 2>to thrive, staying what it is, but maybe also adding

0:28:35.800 --> 0:28:39.760
<v Speaker 2>a little bit based on what was going on at

0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:41.160
<v Speaker 2>the time trend wise.

0:28:41.360 --> 0:28:46.719
<v Speaker 1>Some people were mad. Oh yes, oh yes, they were oof.

0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:54.600
<v Speaker 1>At any rate, the restaurant, the Prime Rib, started hiring

0:28:54.680 --> 0:28:57.680
<v Speaker 1>men as servers in two thousand and four, amidst a

0:28:57.680 --> 0:28:59.960
<v Speaker 1>class action lawsuit that they wound up settling for like

0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:03.840
<v Speaker 1>over a million bucks. Men were previously able to work

0:29:03.920 --> 0:29:07.160
<v Speaker 1>as carvers or bussers, neither of which get tips, and

0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:13.600
<v Speaker 1>so a group of men sued for discrimination. Yes, and

0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:15.800
<v Speaker 1>that brings us to some more changes.

0:29:16.160 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 2>In twenty eighteen, Lowry's expanded their bar and menu options,

0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:24.440
<v Speaker 2>including offering vegetarian items.

0:29:24.720 --> 0:29:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they like literally expanded their bar area to include

0:29:28.560 --> 0:29:32.160
<v Speaker 1>more seating and allow for more casual dinner service at

0:29:32.240 --> 0:29:35.600
<v Speaker 1>the bar, including a few lower priced options like a burger.

0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:38.920
<v Speaker 1>They've been seeing good results at some of their other

0:29:39.000 --> 0:29:43.400
<v Speaker 1>restaurant concepts and had just named another new CMO, the

0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:47.720
<v Speaker 1>great grandson himself a chef, right, Yeah, I just wanted

0:29:47.720 --> 0:29:50.840
<v Speaker 1>to help the brand revitalize.

0:29:50.040 --> 0:29:57.520
<v Speaker 2>Perhaps, Yes, And some people similarly did not like him.

0:29:58.480 --> 0:30:01.240
<v Speaker 2>And he's very like af bowl about it, and.

0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:08.040
<v Speaker 1>He is he is, he seems. He seems aware and

0:30:09.640 --> 0:30:11.680
<v Speaker 1>cautious and good humored.

0:30:11.960 --> 0:30:16.840
<v Speaker 2>Yes, which I imagine it is good to have undertaking

0:30:16.920 --> 0:30:19.320
<v Speaker 2>something like this that's so so fond.

0:30:19.080 --> 0:30:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Of, so old and so beloved. Yeah. In the past

0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:27.280
<v Speaker 1>several years, the Lowry's Restaurant Group has closed a few

0:30:27.720 --> 0:30:31.480
<v Speaker 1>locations of their restaurants. I you know, I imagine it's

0:30:31.560 --> 0:30:37.560
<v Speaker 1>rough running theatrical steakhouses during a pandemic and then during

0:30:37.640 --> 0:30:39.000
<v Speaker 1>an ensuing recession.

0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:42.840
<v Speaker 2>So yes, I did look it up now because I

0:30:42.840 --> 0:30:45.240
<v Speaker 2>was curious. And you can get it delivered.

0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:50.320
<v Speaker 1>You can, you can, I mean not like we actually

0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:52.760
<v Speaker 1>I think that I think that there might be a

0:30:52.800 --> 0:30:55.360
<v Speaker 1>service where they will mail it to you. But like

0:30:55.440 --> 0:30:58.960
<v Speaker 1>a shipping. Yeah, shipping situation, but I didn't look that

0:30:58.960 --> 0:31:00.840
<v Speaker 1>hard into it. Don't take our word for it. You

0:31:00.840 --> 0:31:06.680
<v Speaker 1>can ask the Google about that. Meanwhile, though, we kind

0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:10.360
<v Speaker 1>of consolidated all of our restaurant news up there. Meanwhile,

0:31:10.680 --> 0:31:15.520
<v Speaker 1>Lowry's Foods Company was doing good. Lipton bought them in

0:31:15.600 --> 0:31:21.400
<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy nine under Unilever. By nineteen eighty eight, their

0:31:21.440 --> 0:31:25.160
<v Speaker 1>seasoned Salt was the top selling seasoning blend in the

0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:28.719
<v Speaker 1>United States. At that time, they were making some one

0:31:28.800 --> 0:31:32.520
<v Speaker 1>hundred and ten products and distributing them worldwide, though mostly

0:31:32.560 --> 0:31:35.320
<v Speaker 1>in the US and Canada, with sales of about one

0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:39.840
<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty million bucks a year. They continued manufacturing

0:31:40.080 --> 0:31:44.320
<v Speaker 1>and other shenanigans at the Lowry's California Center until Lipton

0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:47.000
<v Speaker 1>closed it in nineteen ninety two as part of like

0:31:47.040 --> 0:31:52.320
<v Speaker 1>a general corporate consolidation move. It was well loved by

0:31:52.320 --> 0:31:56.160
<v Speaker 1>locals as a lunch spot, but apparently never profitable, and

0:31:56.240 --> 0:31:58.640
<v Speaker 1>I will say the center has since been reopened as

0:31:58.640 --> 0:32:02.120
<v Speaker 1>a public park, the Los Angeles River Centering Gardens. It

0:32:02.200 --> 0:32:05.760
<v Speaker 1>sounds lovely. You can like rented for special events. You

0:32:05.800 --> 0:32:09.600
<v Speaker 1>can have your wedding on the site of Lowry's season

0:32:09.720 --> 0:32:17.560
<v Speaker 1>salt history through Lowry's season Salt ride and grew the beast.

0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:19.120
<v Speaker 1>I'll do that. I don't do as good idea for

0:32:19.200 --> 0:32:23.000
<v Speaker 1>the garden grounds. Yeah, don't. Don't through assault in gardens.

0:32:23.280 --> 0:32:26.840
<v Speaker 1>No no, no, no. Well.

0:32:26.880 --> 0:32:30.200
<v Speaker 2>In two thousand and eight, McCormick purchased Lowry's for six

0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:32.480
<v Speaker 2>hundred and four million dollars.

0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:36.800
<v Speaker 1>At the time, Lowry's dry seasonings were about sixty five

0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:40.200
<v Speaker 1>percent of their business, their bottled marinads were twenty three percent.

0:32:40.840 --> 0:32:45.560
<v Speaker 1>Both as sold to consumers. Their marinads were the market

0:32:45.680 --> 0:32:49.400
<v Speaker 1>leader in that category. It was the first time that

0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:53.880
<v Speaker 1>McCormick got into bottled marinades. Food service sales made up

0:32:53.880 --> 0:32:57.280
<v Speaker 1>the last twelve percent of the total corporate sales. If

0:32:57.280 --> 0:32:59.800
<v Speaker 1>you were wondering where that last little smitch was, it was,

0:33:00.280 --> 0:33:03.440
<v Speaker 1>it was in food service. Yeah. And this, this whole

0:33:03.480 --> 0:33:08.840
<v Speaker 1>deal was actually a really big situation in the seasoning

0:33:09.120 --> 0:33:14.160
<v Speaker 1>business world, Like the FTC got involved because Lowry's was

0:33:14.240 --> 0:33:18.960
<v Speaker 1>big enough that they had anti trust concerns about McCormick

0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:22.680
<v Speaker 1>owning them, Because McCormick then would have controlled eighty percent

0:33:22.800 --> 0:33:27.680
<v Speaker 1>of the seasoned salt market in the United States. In

0:33:27.760 --> 0:33:30.240
<v Speaker 1>order for the FTC to allow the deal to go through.

0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:35.800
<v Speaker 1>McCormick had to sell its own brand, Seasonal to Morton

0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:41.760
<v Speaker 1>Salt Company. Seasonal spelled without a zee with the normal

0:33:41.840 --> 0:33:45.720
<v Speaker 1>the normal way that you would spell season, and McCormick

0:33:45.760 --> 0:33:48.320
<v Speaker 1>had to promise to not buy any other season salt

0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:55.880
<v Speaker 1>brands for the next decade. Wow, legal season salt drama

0:33:56.120 --> 0:34:01.200
<v Speaker 1>like anti trust salt. I love it? Uh pretty good.

0:34:02.760 --> 0:34:08.080
<v Speaker 1>They did release lines of lower sodium seasoning blends starting

0:34:08.120 --> 0:34:10.920
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twelve, yes.

0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:15.120
<v Speaker 2>Which might have been in response to shifting dietary preferences

0:34:15.160 --> 0:34:19.640
<v Speaker 2>and health concerns. So some are moving away from using

0:34:19.680 --> 0:34:23.000
<v Speaker 2>season salts like Lowry's as we mentioned, and spicing things

0:34:23.520 --> 0:34:24.200
<v Speaker 2>on their own.

0:34:24.520 --> 0:34:27.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'd say that there's also more of a desire

0:34:27.760 --> 0:34:31.279
<v Speaker 1>these days to like experiment with your own seasonings, like

0:34:31.400 --> 0:34:37.040
<v Speaker 1>find the exact blend that you like and make it yourself. Yeah. Yeah,

0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:43.520
<v Speaker 1>I think so too. Also, Okay, so that's our timeline.

0:34:43.960 --> 0:34:49.359
<v Speaker 1>I think that's the end of our timeline. I there

0:34:49.360 --> 0:34:51.719
<v Speaker 1>are more things, y'all. I like resubscribe to the La

0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:54.799
<v Speaker 1>Times in order to write this outline because there were

0:34:54.960 --> 0:34:59.319
<v Speaker 1>so many just just weird, little little tidbits in their

0:34:59.400 --> 0:35:02.360
<v Speaker 1>articles that I was like, this is entirely worth my

0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:07.480
<v Speaker 1>subscription money. There are stories about like about like so

0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:11.640
<v Speaker 1>like that original Beverly Hills location like was on one

0:35:11.680 --> 0:35:13.680
<v Speaker 1>side of the street and then at a certain point

0:35:13.840 --> 0:35:16.800
<v Speaker 1>moved to a new building or to a different building

0:35:16.880 --> 0:35:18.200
<v Speaker 1>and the other on the other side of the street,

0:35:18.239 --> 0:35:21.520
<v Speaker 1>and then moved like built a new location, like built

0:35:21.520 --> 0:35:25.880
<v Speaker 1>a new fancy place on the original side and moved

0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:30.120
<v Speaker 1>back there. And like this entailed you know, like a

0:35:30.120 --> 0:35:34.640
<v Speaker 1>lot of restaurant moving and shaken. But specifically they had

0:35:34.640 --> 0:35:37.080
<v Speaker 1>to like have traffic cops come out and stop traffic

0:35:37.239 --> 0:35:39.520
<v Speaker 1>so that the servers could push these like seven hundred

0:35:39.560 --> 0:35:47.760
<v Speaker 1>pound carts back and forth across the road. Listen, Prime

0:35:47.880 --> 0:35:57.000
<v Speaker 1>rib is no joke. It's not It's not no, but okay,

0:35:57.040 --> 0:36:01.480
<v Speaker 1>so so yeah, so that's one more, one more cultural

0:36:01.520 --> 0:36:08.040
<v Speaker 1>tidbit before I'm done, because whenever I find an example

0:36:08.280 --> 0:36:11.960
<v Speaker 1>of like the Internet maybe not being all a mistake

0:36:12.360 --> 0:36:17.080
<v Speaker 1>to begin with, in my in my searching, I found

0:36:17.080 --> 0:36:21.440
<v Speaker 1>this Reddit post discussing whether lowries can be used to

0:36:21.520 --> 0:36:25.800
<v Speaker 1>protect against supernatural beings the same way that plain salt can.

0:36:26.719 --> 0:36:31.880
<v Speaker 1>The The text of the post was simply kind of

0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:37.919
<v Speaker 1>in a situation here need to know fast yikes, which

0:36:37.920 --> 0:36:42.120
<v Speaker 1>I believe was a joke, but the thread the respondents

0:36:42.280 --> 0:36:46.160
<v Speaker 1>generally reasoned that like pure salt is best for ghosts,

0:36:48.280 --> 0:36:51.360
<v Speaker 1>a spice blend with larger grains might work on like

0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:55.839
<v Speaker 1>vampires and fae that compulsively count things. Something as fine

0:36:55.840 --> 0:36:59.640
<v Speaker 1>grained as Lowries probably isn't good for them, and for

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:03.239
<v Speaker 1>d like you'd really you'd really need to check whether

0:37:03.239 --> 0:37:07.480
<v Speaker 1>they're affiliated with McCormick and company, because demons are rules

0:37:07.560 --> 0:37:11.840
<v Speaker 1>lawyers and so like their corporate affiliations matter in situations

0:37:11.880 --> 0:37:16.080
<v Speaker 1>like this, there's good consumer service. We can just ask.

0:37:19.320 --> 0:37:21.560
<v Speaker 1>It's good to know, pardon, can you give us a

0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:24.920
<v Speaker 1>list of demons who currently work for McCormick and company.

0:37:25.920 --> 0:37:37.680
<v Speaker 1>It's urgent. This is fantastic. Yeah, yeah, I just I

0:37:37.760 --> 0:37:40.319
<v Speaker 1>just love that. Also, as y'all know, Annie and I

0:37:40.360 --> 0:37:44.000
<v Speaker 1>are nerds for the television show Supernatural and other such

0:37:45.680 --> 0:37:48.840
<v Speaker 1>speculative fiction. So that just made me really happy.

0:37:50.719 --> 0:37:52.759
<v Speaker 2>And I was telling Lauren before, I'm so happy that

0:37:52.840 --> 0:37:55.840
<v Speaker 2>you put this in, because I had stumbled on something

0:37:55.880 --> 0:37:58.279
<v Speaker 2>that said Lowry's was haunted, and then it was a

0:37:58.320 --> 0:38:00.720
<v Speaker 2>dead end everywhere I went and I was so sad,

0:38:01.280 --> 0:38:04.640
<v Speaker 2>and then I see this note and I was like, Okay,

0:38:04.800 --> 0:38:08.240
<v Speaker 2>at least we've still got We've still got this element

0:38:08.280 --> 0:38:12.120
<v Speaker 2>of supernatural here, and I think it's great. I love

0:38:12.360 --> 0:38:16.000
<v Speaker 2>people really put some thought into they did. They did,

0:38:16.440 --> 0:38:20.719
<v Speaker 2>and I generally agree uh with their what they came

0:38:20.800 --> 0:38:21.359
<v Speaker 2>up with here.

0:38:21.520 --> 0:38:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. No, I think that that's all sage advice. I

0:38:26.960 --> 0:38:28.600
<v Speaker 1>mean in a pinch, you know, like do what you

0:38:28.640 --> 0:38:29.839
<v Speaker 1>gotta do, but in a.

0:38:29.800 --> 0:38:35.960
<v Speaker 2>Pinch, yeah, get the lorries, hope for the best.

0:38:36.160 --> 0:38:44.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that is but yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, Well,

0:38:45.480 --> 0:38:48.200
<v Speaker 1>I think that is officially what we have to say

0:38:48.280 --> 0:38:51.879
<v Speaker 1>about Lowry's for now. It is.

0:38:52.040 --> 0:38:54.600
<v Speaker 2>But we really want to hear from you listeners if

0:38:54.640 --> 0:38:56.799
<v Speaker 2>you have any ways that you like to use it,

0:38:56.880 --> 0:38:58.640
<v Speaker 2>memories with it, if you've been to the restaurant, or

0:38:58.680 --> 0:39:01.920
<v Speaker 2>you've got any ghost or related.

0:39:01.680 --> 0:39:08.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, please let us know. Absolutely. But in the meanwhile,

0:39:08.440 --> 0:39:10.960
<v Speaker 1>we do already have some listener mail for you, and

0:39:11.000 --> 0:39:12.480
<v Speaker 1>we are going to get into that as soon as

0:39:12.480 --> 0:39:14.360
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0:39:40.440 --> 0:39:45.520
<v Speaker 2>That was like fireworks, you know, sure, yeah, yeah, okay,

0:39:46.400 --> 0:39:50.120
<v Speaker 2>So Peter wrote, since you asked, I thought i'd tell

0:39:50.120 --> 0:39:53.120
<v Speaker 2>you about my childhood cafeteria which has much more history

0:39:53.120 --> 0:39:57.040
<v Speaker 2>and good vibes than I knew as a child. Clifton's Cafeteria,

0:39:57.160 --> 0:40:00.719
<v Speaker 2>which I knew through their Lakewood Mall brand. Surely the

0:40:00.760 --> 0:40:03.520
<v Speaker 2>most pedestrian and norm core of the lot was a

0:40:03.560 --> 0:40:07.280
<v Speaker 2>lot like your description of Southern style cafeterias, although perhaps

0:40:07.360 --> 0:40:10.920
<v Speaker 2>less focused on the heavy fried side of things, including

0:40:11.000 --> 0:40:15.120
<v Speaker 2>no hush puppies that I recall, quite a variety of

0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:20.120
<v Speaker 2>healthier salads, and the iced tea was not sweet, but

0:40:20.360 --> 0:40:23.560
<v Speaker 2>there were still big tam roast beef, my personal childhood

0:40:23.600 --> 0:40:27.880
<v Speaker 2>favorite roast turkey, and all the various carbon vegetable sides

0:40:27.880 --> 0:40:32.200
<v Speaker 2>and casseroles. Their dessert offerings were okay, but not stellar,

0:40:32.520 --> 0:40:35.279
<v Speaker 2>various pies and cakes, two flavors of ice cream you

0:40:35.280 --> 0:40:38.760
<v Speaker 2>could probably guess which flavors those would be, and oddly

0:40:38.960 --> 0:40:44.120
<v Speaker 2>three or four Surbet flavors, yes, Surbet, not Sherbert Jess.

0:40:44.200 --> 0:40:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Had to get that off my chest.

0:40:47.160 --> 0:40:50.560
<v Speaker 2>But the normy Clifton's I knew was connected to an

0:40:50.600 --> 0:40:54.320
<v Speaker 2>illustrious and laudable history. The main branches in Los Angeles

0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:56.520
<v Speaker 2>were opened in the depths of the Great Depression and

0:40:56.560 --> 0:40:58.960
<v Speaker 2>had a policy that no one would go hungry even

0:40:59.000 --> 0:41:02.120
<v Speaker 2>if they had no money. Their target profit per customer

0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:04.919
<v Speaker 2>was only one half cent, which was a lot more

0:41:04.960 --> 0:41:08.520
<v Speaker 2>back then, but still. The Los Angeles branches were also

0:41:08.760 --> 0:41:12.160
<v Speaker 2>much more creative in their diner experience, having a very

0:41:12.239 --> 0:41:15.640
<v Speaker 2>unusual design sensibility that some claim was the precursor to

0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:20.680
<v Speaker 2>the mid centry tiki barklays. Sadly, the Lakewood branch closed

0:41:20.680 --> 0:41:22.960
<v Speaker 2>in two thousand and one due to low customer demand,

0:41:23.320 --> 0:41:26.360
<v Speaker 2>and the last Cliftons, the one in downtown LA closed

0:41:26.400 --> 0:41:29.239
<v Speaker 2>in twenty eighteen, and it is now only represented by

0:41:29.239 --> 0:41:32.440
<v Speaker 2>a bar called Clifton's Republic, which has a bunch of

0:41:32.520 --> 0:41:36.600
<v Speaker 2>small plates with modern fusion inventions which might be very

0:41:36.640 --> 0:41:41.719
<v Speaker 2>good but have none of the tradition of Clifton's past. Yeah,

0:41:41.800 --> 0:41:46.520
<v Speaker 2>I do have to say, small plates sort of antithesis.

0:41:48.960 --> 0:41:52.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean type of cafeteria. I mean, you know, it's

0:41:52.400 --> 0:41:56.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of like you're ordering a number of things to

0:41:56.920 --> 0:42:00.840
<v Speaker 1>make up your meal. It's true, but not in a

0:42:00.880 --> 0:42:02.160
<v Speaker 1>similar way.

0:42:02.480 --> 0:42:07.840
<v Speaker 2>No, No, but I'm really glad you shared this because

0:42:07.920 --> 0:42:10.480
<v Speaker 2>we did focus specifically on the South, but I know

0:42:10.600 --> 0:42:14.200
<v Speaker 2>that there are pockets that had.

0:42:14.080 --> 0:42:19.879
<v Speaker 1>Oh absolutely, yeah. And California. California is a big cafeteria

0:42:20.080 --> 0:42:26.000
<v Speaker 1>like mid century cafeteria area in general. So yes, yeah,

0:42:26.280 --> 0:42:29.520
<v Speaker 1>it's so fascinated by all of this. I would not

0:42:29.600 --> 0:42:31.680
<v Speaker 1>have expected y'all to have had hushpuppies out there.

0:42:34.920 --> 0:42:36.800
<v Speaker 2>I have to say. I don't even drink like sweet

0:42:36.920 --> 0:42:39.040
<v Speaker 2>iced tea. And I was a little guest.

0:42:39.280 --> 0:42:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, that's a definite, Like like whenever someone

0:42:44.000 --> 0:42:49.239
<v Speaker 1>who is not from the South starts talking about iced tea,

0:42:49.520 --> 0:42:53.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, let us specify just for one moment. Are

0:42:53.160 --> 0:42:55.920
<v Speaker 1>we talking about sweet tea? Because that's what a Southerner

0:42:56.040 --> 0:43:02.920
<v Speaker 1>means when they say iced tea.

0:43:03.480 --> 0:43:10.359
<v Speaker 2>Oh it's so ingrained. I was almost gast out. But yeah,

0:43:10.360 --> 0:43:13.080
<v Speaker 2>thank you so much for sharing and this history. I'm

0:43:13.160 --> 0:43:17.040
<v Speaker 2>sad that it closed. I at least it still has

0:43:17.080 --> 0:43:22.799
<v Speaker 2>this little outpost. Yeah, you know, people like you to

0:43:22.880 --> 0:43:28.759
<v Speaker 2>remember it. Yeah, and I am. I am intrigued in

0:43:28.840 --> 0:43:33.160
<v Speaker 2>the the differences between regions of the items they offer,

0:43:33.360 --> 0:43:40.719
<v Speaker 2>and so I like the healthier salads, not as much

0:43:40.800 --> 0:43:41.560
<v Speaker 2>fried food.

0:43:41.760 --> 0:43:49.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but again, again this makes sense, it does it does, Yes, yeah,

0:43:49.480 --> 0:43:55.479
<v Speaker 1>and uh is it sure? But for sure Bay sure did?

0:43:55.560 --> 0:43:58.160
<v Speaker 1>We We have no idea. We did an episode about it,

0:43:58.280 --> 0:44:00.759
<v Speaker 1>Go see that one. We figured I figured it out

0:44:00.800 --> 0:44:04.880
<v Speaker 1>at some point in the past. But now it's gone.

0:44:04.960 --> 0:44:12.160
<v Speaker 1>It's blonde done. Christine wrote, this is a message I

0:44:12.200 --> 0:44:15.200
<v Speaker 1>meant to send a while ago, because this is my

0:44:15.320 --> 0:44:17.960
<v Speaker 1>curry leaf plant. I've had it for a few years now,

0:44:17.960 --> 0:44:20.960
<v Speaker 1>and I deliberately keep it small. The leaves are very

0:44:21.040 --> 0:44:24.160
<v Speaker 1>nice to graze on and very tasty if flash fried,

0:44:24.800 --> 0:44:27.760
<v Speaker 1>the flavor tends to not last in long slow cooks.

0:44:28.360 --> 0:44:31.160
<v Speaker 1>I did have a brief flurry of research into when

0:44:31.160 --> 0:44:34.040
<v Speaker 1>it was introduced into Australia, because Australia has a long

0:44:34.080 --> 0:44:37.799
<v Speaker 1>fascinating relationship with the food and plants of the Indian subcontinent.

0:44:38.200 --> 0:44:39.960
<v Speaker 1>From what I can tell, it only started to be

0:44:40.040 --> 0:44:44.319
<v Speaker 1>sold commercially in nineteen ninety, so quite recent. But the

0:44:44.400 --> 0:44:46.400
<v Speaker 1>main reason I wanted to write was to provide some

0:44:46.440 --> 0:44:51.560
<v Speaker 1>more details about Australian coffee. I think I rather shocked you,

0:44:51.640 --> 0:44:55.680
<v Speaker 1>particularly Lauren, with my declaration that Australians have the best coffee.

0:44:56.200 --> 0:44:58.920
<v Speaker 1>It's not just me who thinks this, based on some

0:44:59.239 --> 0:45:03.480
<v Speaker 1>not very exten research of Reddit and Cora forums, Australians

0:45:03.480 --> 0:45:06.600
<v Speaker 1>who have lived in the US, Americans who live in Australia,

0:45:06.920 --> 0:45:10.880
<v Speaker 1>and some globe trotting content creators. Australian coffee is often

0:45:10.920 --> 0:45:13.440
<v Speaker 1>considered as among the best in the world, if not

0:45:13.600 --> 0:45:16.680
<v Speaker 1>the best. I think this has to do with migration

0:45:17.320 --> 0:45:21.279
<v Speaker 1>because of what socialists call targeted ethnic persecution and I

0:45:21.400 --> 0:45:24.360
<v Speaker 1>call white people being racist to other white people. Australia

0:45:24.440 --> 0:45:27.440
<v Speaker 1>didn't have a huge number of Southern and Eastern Europeans

0:45:27.520 --> 0:45:30.879
<v Speaker 1>prior to World War Two. After World War Two, there

0:45:30.960 --> 0:45:33.800
<v Speaker 1>was a drive to encourage migration, and for the first

0:45:33.840 --> 0:45:37.240
<v Speaker 1>time this included Southern and Eastern Europeans in larger numbers,

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<v Speaker 1>probably because we couldn't get enough from Britain and had

0:45:40.239 --> 0:45:44.080
<v Speaker 1>to relax our standards. This meant for the first time,

0:45:44.200 --> 0:45:47.759
<v Speaker 1>an influx of Italians and Greeks, in particular. The US

0:45:47.800 --> 0:45:50.080
<v Speaker 1>also had waves of migrants from these places after World

0:45:50.120 --> 0:45:54.640
<v Speaker 1>War Two, but they were absorbed into already substantial populations here.

0:45:54.719 --> 0:45:57.200
<v Speaker 1>They were establishing little Italyes and little Greece's. For the

0:45:57.200 --> 0:46:01.120
<v Speaker 1>first time. They brought with them trattria and taverna culture

0:46:01.360 --> 0:46:05.120
<v Speaker 1>which adapted to various Australian institutions very well, such as

0:46:05.200 --> 0:46:09.319
<v Speaker 1>the burgeoning cafe culture of Melbourne. I think it's also

0:46:09.360 --> 0:46:12.799
<v Speaker 1>important to remember this coincided with the industrial development of

0:46:12.880 --> 0:46:17.400
<v Speaker 1>single serve espresso machines. Australia didn't really have a coffee presence,

0:46:17.520 --> 0:46:20.920
<v Speaker 1>so Italian and Greek cafes with these interesting new machines

0:46:20.960 --> 0:46:25.279
<v Speaker 1>and this interesting new drink really took off. Melbourne is

0:46:25.320 --> 0:46:30.040
<v Speaker 1>particularly significant in Australian and world coffee history. I went

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<v Speaker 1>back and listened to your McDonald's episode, and while you

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned McCafe stealth McDonald's, you didn't talk much about the history.

0:46:37.560 --> 0:46:41.480
<v Speaker 1>The first McCafe opened in nineteen ninety three in Melbourne

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<v Speaker 1>as the brainchild of McDonald's Australia Managing director Charlie Bell.

0:46:46.280 --> 0:46:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Bell later became the McDonald's CEO and spearheaded the healthier

0:46:50.760 --> 0:46:54.200
<v Speaker 1>McDonald's options. By the time the first McCafe opened in

0:46:54.200 --> 0:46:56.160
<v Speaker 1>the US in two thousand and one, there were over

0:46:56.200 --> 0:46:59.200
<v Speaker 1>one hundred in Australia and today around ninety nine percent

0:46:59.200 --> 0:47:03.600
<v Speaker 1>of Australian mcdo donald's have a McCafe. But now I

0:47:03.719 --> 0:47:07.439
<v Speaker 1>realize why McCafe succeeded in Australia while so many other

0:47:07.560 --> 0:47:11.600
<v Speaker 1>US coffee chains have crashed and burned. McCafe is the

0:47:11.640 --> 0:47:15.680
<v Speaker 1>Australian cafe culture that adapted across the world instead of

0:47:15.719 --> 0:47:18.760
<v Speaker 1>a foreign coffee concept that couldn't force its way into

0:47:18.960 --> 0:47:26.279
<v Speaker 1>a well developed coffee culture. That's fascinating. This is all fascinating.

0:47:26.360 --> 0:47:26.480
<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, now we need to go back and do

0:47:28.080 --> 0:47:32.160
<v Speaker 1>an episode just about McCafe. Clearly, I would love to.

0:47:34.040 --> 0:47:36.640
<v Speaker 2>I would love to because we did mention it briefly

0:47:36.680 --> 0:47:39.680
<v Speaker 2>in that episode, But every time I've seen them when

0:47:39.680 --> 0:47:42.840
<v Speaker 2>I've traveled in another country, they look so nice.

0:47:42.880 --> 0:47:46.200
<v Speaker 1>They don't you know, they don't look like an afterthought,

0:47:46.400 --> 0:47:49.520
<v Speaker 1>Like I feel like an American McDonald's. It's kind of like, uh,

0:47:49.680 --> 0:47:56.359
<v Speaker 1>we vaguely shoved a espresso concept in here. Maybe it's

0:47:56.400 --> 0:47:59.319
<v Speaker 1>more likely that it's like a frozen drink kind of

0:47:59.640 --> 0:48:06.239
<v Speaker 1>situation and right, and then basically everywhere else it's like, oh,

0:48:06.239 --> 0:48:08.720
<v Speaker 1>you wanted a cafe, we can provide that for you,

0:48:08.760 --> 0:48:11.400
<v Speaker 1>no problem. Here. I feel like they were just like

0:48:11.440 --> 0:48:16.440
<v Speaker 1>there's a Starbucks across the street man, Yeah, yeah, and

0:48:16.520 --> 0:48:16.840
<v Speaker 1>you know that.

0:48:16.880 --> 0:48:19.200
<v Speaker 2>I think that's also interesting because there was sort of

0:48:19.200 --> 0:48:25.200
<v Speaker 2>a at least very public backlash about McDonald's expanding into

0:48:25.239 --> 0:48:29.960
<v Speaker 2>other countries. We've talked about how they're still pretty popular.

0:48:31.280 --> 0:48:36.759
<v Speaker 2>But if you get the McCafe and it has I

0:48:36.800 --> 0:48:38.719
<v Speaker 2>don't know, local coffee.

0:48:38.280 --> 0:48:40.600
<v Speaker 1>Decent coffee, and decent pastry, it's like, well.

0:48:41.520 --> 0:48:45.680
<v Speaker 3>That feels less of a American thing and more of

0:48:45.719 --> 0:48:49.720
<v Speaker 3>a like this is actually we have good coffee. Yeah,

0:48:49.719 --> 0:48:52.960
<v Speaker 3>Whereas for us, at least in my experience in the US,

0:48:53.680 --> 0:48:58.440
<v Speaker 3>the McCafe is just like, really, you're going to.

0:48:58.440 --> 0:49:01.319
<v Speaker 1>Go in there, all right, I'll go, yeah, you're going

0:49:01.400 --> 0:49:05.960
<v Speaker 1>there for coffee. You're getting a coffee from there. Partially

0:49:06.040 --> 0:49:09.400
<v Speaker 1>because for such a long time the coffee like you

0:49:09.440 --> 0:49:12.080
<v Speaker 1>could get a coffee at a McDonald's, certainly during the

0:49:12.120 --> 0:49:17.200
<v Speaker 1>morning hours, but it was not a high quality coffee, no,

0:49:17.280 --> 0:49:19.480
<v Speaker 1>and you knew what you were getting, yeah, oh yeah yeah.

0:49:19.520 --> 0:49:22.520
<v Speaker 1>And if you kind of want something that tastes like

0:49:22.760 --> 0:49:32.799
<v Speaker 1>diesel fumes, then you know, great, good for you. But yeah,

0:49:32.840 --> 0:49:35.040
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, no, I did not know about any of this.

0:49:35.200 --> 0:49:39.239
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, as always for writing in. This is super fascinating.

0:49:40.800 --> 0:49:44.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, of course, right, like coffee is so good,

0:49:46.080 --> 0:49:46.600
<v Speaker 1>that makes sense.

0:49:46.600 --> 0:49:49.360
<v Speaker 2>And I also love that you did some research on

0:49:49.440 --> 0:49:53.520
<v Speaker 2>Reddit for I'm so sad that when I was in Australia,

0:49:53.560 --> 0:49:56.880
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't a big coffee person. I drank coffee, but

0:49:56.960 --> 0:49:59.239
<v Speaker 2>it was it was literally like, what is the thing

0:49:59.280 --> 0:49:59.799
<v Speaker 2>that has.

0:49:59.719 --> 0:50:02.440
<v Speaker 1>Caffe in it? You can get through the Yeah.

0:50:02.560 --> 0:50:04.840
<v Speaker 2>I didn't have a lot of money either, Definitely, I

0:50:04.920 --> 0:50:09.239
<v Speaker 2>wasn't looking for the but that makes me so sad.

0:50:09.680 --> 0:50:11.080
<v Speaker 2>I would really appreciate it now.

0:50:11.440 --> 0:50:12.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:50:12.520 --> 0:50:16.960
<v Speaker 2>Also, Christine provided a picture of her curry plant. It

0:50:17.000 --> 0:50:23.759
<v Speaker 2>looks very healthy, very well. I still haven't had any,

0:50:23.880 --> 0:50:28.920
<v Speaker 2>but I did look into Lauren you mentioned Chaiapanni and

0:50:29.239 --> 0:50:31.840
<v Speaker 2>they do have it on their menu and it's several dishes.

0:50:32.280 --> 0:50:34.480
<v Speaker 2>But the problem is, and I've told you this is

0:50:34.480 --> 0:50:36.080
<v Speaker 2>a problem for me now, I want to order like

0:50:36.280 --> 0:50:40.080
<v Speaker 2>six things, so I need to get a group together, okay,

0:50:40.960 --> 0:50:43.560
<v Speaker 2>because I can't eat six things by myself.

0:50:44.000 --> 0:50:47.880
<v Speaker 1>Six things. I mean problem to have, but it's a

0:50:47.920 --> 0:50:50.919
<v Speaker 1>lovely problem to have. But yeah, yeah, no, the next

0:50:50.920 --> 0:50:55.759
<v Speaker 1>time that you have the opportunity to do it. They

0:50:55.800 --> 0:51:00.000
<v Speaker 1>were really good. Yeah, they yeah, Like I just ordered

0:51:00.080 --> 0:51:02.239
<v Speaker 1>one of the like chot kind of situations and it

0:51:02.320 --> 0:51:06.000
<v Speaker 1>had a bunch of little fried curleaves scattered over it

0:51:06.040 --> 0:51:11.880
<v Speaker 1>and they were so nice. They sound so nice. I

0:51:11.960 --> 0:51:16.360
<v Speaker 1>want them. It's like really really bright and heady. Yeah

0:51:17.080 --> 0:51:20.000
<v Speaker 1>yeah wow.

0:51:20.160 --> 0:51:23.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm very happy Christine that you wrote in about this

0:51:23.400 --> 0:51:26.560
<v Speaker 2>and that you you have these leaves to snack on.

0:51:27.880 --> 0:51:30.480
<v Speaker 1>I also graze on my herbs. I'm just like a, hey, Basil,

0:51:32.239 --> 0:51:36.160
<v Speaker 1>let's just do that. Dyl, Okay, let's go so good,

0:51:36.600 --> 0:51:37.080
<v Speaker 1>so good.

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