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Speaker 1: an arrest in the disappearance of Colorado mom Kelsey Barrett.

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Speaker 1: a minute, these two already had records, Nicole Parton, they did, Nancy.

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Speaker 1: They both had records. They had both been previously investigated

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Speaker 1: I asked myself the same questions, How do you miss

425
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: something like that? I mean, you can't go back, you

426
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,479
Speaker 1: can't change it. But you know, you think about everything

427
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 1: that you do every day, and you think about all

428
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: the chaos and everything going on and every but he

429
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 1: in and out? Who was responsible for feeding this child? Right?

430
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: Did you know he wasn't feeding him? I mean, it's

431
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: obviously malnourished, He's obviously dehydrated. We know now from the

432
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 1: medical records that they had to start a refeeding process

433
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 1: with him on a tube. He could only process three

434
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:26,199
Speaker 1: hundred calories at a time. He was so malnourished. And

435
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: I didn't understand any of that because I did see

436
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 1: him eat, and he was eating. When the police showed up,

437
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 1: I gave him food myself. Oh my stars, you are

438
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: hearing our friend doctor phel who actually goes on a

439
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: tour of the home. This little boy, just five years old,

440
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: was starved, forced to wear a diaper, locked in a

441
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: quote Harry Potter room under the stairs, weighing just twenty

442
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: nine pounds. Listen, this is the closet. Now. What's interesting

443
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: about it is if you open it, and I'm probably

444
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: gonna it's actually off the hinge and you may have

445
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: to do it all right. Let me see that it's

446
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: off his hinge and it's been that way for quite

447
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: a while. It comes open, got it, got it? And

448
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: then if you go back here, let me help you

449
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: with it. How long have these clothes they stay here?

450
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: But back here if you move all of the stuff,

451
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: which is why it's it's just ridiculous that the sixteen

452
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 1: year old says that this is where he stayed. There's

453
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: baby clothes and baby items, all right, So this is

454
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: the stairway because it's slanted there. Okay, so this is

455
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: what maybe four by three. What the sixteen year old

456
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: was saying is that Jordan actually had to stay in

457
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: that room back in here, right, And as you can see,

458
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: not possibly. And these are all the one year old

459
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: because this is where it's basically her closet. And I

460
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: think you can see the plastic dwars where all of

461
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: her stuff is. So for her to get to one

462
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: year old stuff, she went under a solid row of clothes,

463
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: cut down on her knees, opened this and got stuff

464
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: up for a one year and have six kids. You

465
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: do what you can. I can show you also, I

466
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: mean this is where some of her kid's shoes are.

467
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: She keeps her shoes in the living room over there,

468
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: and her clothes in a closet upstairs. So Tammy's position

469
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,719
Speaker 1: that this child was never kept in this closet, never

470
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: kept in the class, never punished by being put in

471
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: this clouse, never punished, was never in here, never in

472
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: this coming gold crawl space. It didn't happen. What you

473
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: hear a woman defending how the boy was kept and

474
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: saying how big the claws it was. And it wasn't

475
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: as it was described, Nicole Parton. The cops got there

476
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: and they found where the boy was living, and it

477
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: was exactly as we are saying, alone mattress in there.

478
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: The boy starved within hours of death, foaming at the mouth,

479
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: forced to wear nothing but a diaper at age five,

480
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: covered and cuts and bruises. Describe the scene, Nicole Parton,

481
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: Nicole Parton joining me, reported with crime online dot Com.

482
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Nicole, It was exactly as we have been describing.

483
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: They found this tiny scraw cross space underneath the stairwell.

484
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: You can imagine the tiny size of this little hole

485
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: where he was being forced to stay. Nothing in the

486
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: room except a lone mattress, nails protruding out of the

487
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 1: walls and out of the roof because he's living in

488
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: a stairwell and unfinished room, so there's no sheet rock,

489
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: there's nothing like that to protect him. Wires hanging down

490
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: his body, fully emaciated, bruises, sores, It was exactly as

491
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: we are describing. Unbelievable. Some authorities say it was the

492
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: worst condition they had ever seen a little boy who

493
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: was steel alive. Listen, where was this closet in the house,

494
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: to your understanding, underneath the stairs. This is how they

495
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: were able to hide him with the CPS and the

496
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: police came out. They had an extra little room inside

497
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: of the room in the closet, and it was just

498
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: a small, little cubbyhole. But if you put stuff in

499
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: front of it, you can't even tell that there's a

500
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: door there. The children called it the Harry Potter room

501
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: because it was hidden. What did he tell you about

502
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: the closet? I asked him if he had a bed,

503
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: and that's when he told me he had one upstairs,

504
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: but not downstairs. And I asked him to have a

505
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: blanket and he said no. I said, what about a pillow? No.

506
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: I asked him if he had gone to a doctor

507
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: or a dentist, and he told me no. I understand that.

508
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: He said that he was locked up with a padlock

509
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: under the stairs, given drugs to sleep. When people came

510
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: over to the house, I was told by some of

511
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: Brad and Hamley's family friends that they were giving Jordan

512
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: adhd medication. I was also told that they were giving

513
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: him antidepressants to keep him groggy. So that when police

514
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: or anything came over, so they just didn't have to

515
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: deal with him, but not let him out. Just they

516
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: told the other children in the house that if they

517
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: went down there and tried to help him, that they

518
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: would get hurt too. And Bremner joining me, high profile

519
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: Seattle lawyer, this type of case is one of her

520
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: many specialties. And Bremner, what's crazy is when you look

521
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: at their home, the yard as well kept or shrubs

522
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: and bushes, the home looks fine. Neighbors had no idea

523
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: what was going on. And if you look at this stepmother, Blimeyer,

524
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: Timmy Blimeyer, she looks like a soccer mom that would

525
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: pull up at some fancy private school and pick up

526
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: for kids. You would never know she's starving and beating

527
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: a child to death and letting this this new stepfather

528
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: do the same thing. Oh absolutely, and with CPS knew.

529
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the thing is I think we need

530
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: in every Their worthless CPS is worthless. I really think

531
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: they should be criminally charged as well, because they had

532
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: been to the home and they left the boy that queen.

533
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: You know, when we see often in many states, including mine,

534
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: where their emphasis is on reunifying families any costs and

535
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: not the best interests of the child. And you know,

536
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: I have the Susan Cox pal case where that exactly

537
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: that happened. Remember where Josh, you know, it was found

538
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: with those kids. He was responsible for Susan's disappearance, for

539
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: her homicide, but judge had found that. And he was

540
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 1: living in a home with a news hanging from the

541
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 1: ceiling with his dad with all the porn remember Stephen Pallett,

542
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: all this porn and pictures of Susan, etc. And he

543
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: was the suspect and his wife's disappearance. Nevertheless, CPS led

544
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: him visit with those boys and he killed him with

545
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: the hatchet and blew up the house. You know, and

546
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: you look at things like that and you think, what

547
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 1: you know, reason dictates that is there's danger. You take

548
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: those kids, you don't let them be with that parent.

549
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: And so shame on CPS. And like he said, they

550
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: should be criminally responsible as well. And what really drives

551
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: me crazy to Francie Haiks Guys Francie Haiks former federal prosecutor,

552
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: typically on the other side of the fence from Anne Bremner.

553
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: But Francy Haiggs was appointed as the federal for the

554
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: entire United States Czar for Child Protection, Francy Higgs. It's

555
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: amazing to me that nobody on the outside knew what

556
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: was going on, and how these people could walk by

557
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: that closet every single day knowing that Jordan was in

558
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: their starving. You know, Nancy, your prosecutor's instincts are still

559
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: dead on, because that's exactly what I would have argued

560
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 1: to the jury in this case, talking about how many

561
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: times every single day that those parents walked by that

562
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: closet and neglected their child. How every single acts, every

563
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: single minute of that neglect should have been a new

564
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: charge of abuse. It doesn't surprise me that the neighbors

565
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: didn't know, because you can keep a child in the closet.

566
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: How are the neighbors supposed to know? But who is

567
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: charged with knowing, Nancy, Who is supposed to be protecting

568
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: that child besides his parents? The government, The government agency

569
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: in charge of making sure we don't abuse our children,

570
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 1: Child Protective Services, de facts and they utterly and absolutely failed.

571
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: I can't help but agree with you. I don't think

572
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: they'll be criminally charged, but boy, wouldn't I like to

573
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,479
Speaker 1: look at the statutes in that stake, This little boy,

574
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: just five years old, was starved, forced to wear a

575
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: diaper lock can they quote Harry Potter room under the

576
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: stairs the boy little Jordan, weighing just twenty nine pounds.

577
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: Listen to what happened in court jury heavy Tammy Blimeier

578
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: guilty of injury to a child. Her face buried in

579
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 1: her hands as the judge read Tammy Blimeyer's feet and

580
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 1: can find in the Institutional Division of the Texas Department

581
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 1: Criminal Justice. For twenty eight years, Blimeyer nearly starved to

582
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 1: death her then five year old steps on and kept

583
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: him in a small closet under the stairs. Once the

584
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: judge read the sentence, Blameyer's children were overcome with mixed

585
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,720
Speaker 1: emotions inside the courtroom, her eighteen year old son Cody,

586
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,720
Speaker 1: speaking on behalf of his siblings during the victim impact statement.

587
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: History here give made a big mistake and ultimately at

588
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,240
Speaker 1: the big consequences. I'm up here to ask a rhetorical

589
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: question of how how would you put all that? Her

590
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 1: twenty one year old son Dylan, notified authorities of torture

591
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: also spoke and ever forget all the good things that happened,

592
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: and the good things that you did for us, I

593
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: hope that you take care of yourself and fix whatever.

594
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 1: Harris County District Attorney's Office is calling this sentence justice.

595
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 1: This was a very bittersweet moment. Jordan suffered a very

596
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: terrible injury at the hands of his biological father and

597
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: Tammy Blimeyer, and as you heard, Jordan's biological father played

598
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: a part in his abuse. He fled guilty in twenty

599
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 1: sixteen and was sentenced to fifteen years behind bars. Jordan

600
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: is now staying with his biological mother. When I walked

601
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 1: into that room, the child laying in that bed had

602
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: the same eyes, and the same smile and the same voice,

603
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: but he did not look like the baby that I

604
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: had seen two years before that, and it to burn

605
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: my heart up. What did you say to him when

606
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: you first saw him? I told him that I missed

607
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: him so much, and then I promised that I would

608
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: never never be away from him again. You know, the

609
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: sister and brother, Cody and Alison, actually testified against the

610
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: evil mother, Timmy Blimeyer, in a horrific child abuse case,

611
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: and they described had their five year old old step brother, Jordan,

612
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 1: ago days and days and days without food unless they

613
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: managed to sneak a tiny piece of bread to him

614
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: and reth the wrath of their mom and stepdad. They

615
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: say how they wished someone would have acted sooner, they

616
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: were too afraid to. They had reached out to teachers

617
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: and friends to tell them about the little brother, but

618
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: nobody seemed to do anything. The dad, Brad Blamire, would

619
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: beat and starve and even taser baby Jordan for no

620
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: reason at all, keeping him a lot in a cold,

621
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: dark hole within a cupboard under the stairs. It wasn't

622
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: even big enough for Jordan to stand up in. Slowly,

623
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: Jordan had everything stripped away from him, food, clothes, even

624
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: his pillow in blanket. He would be left wearing nothing

625
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: but a diaper in that tiny crawl space, surrounded by

626
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: nails and exposed wires. His brothers and sister would say

627
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: he would quote disappear for days, to the extent they

628
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 1: would think he was out of the house, but actually

629
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:02,280
Speaker 1: he was locked in his tiny room is jail telle.

630
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: That's called the Harry Potter cupboard because it's in under

631
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: a crawl space. I just don't understand it, the brother says.

632
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: The day I opened the closet and saw him in

633
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 1: the worst shape I had ever seen him in. I'm

634
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 1: just overwhelmed in a diaper covered in bruises and scrapes,

635
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: and on the back of his head. Jackie and I

636
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 1: are looking at a picture right now. You see a

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Speaker 1: huge bruise on the back of his head that looks

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Speaker 1: like it's been bleeding. She said, the sixteen year old

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Speaker 1: doesn't respect the father, so he's lying about the abuse. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what they told everybody, But about sixteen year old,

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Speaker 1: he's a hero. If he wouldn't have done for my

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Speaker 1: son what he did and allowed himself to be beaten

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Speaker 1: up by Bradley because he was trying to help Jordan,

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Speaker 1: my son, we would probably be having a funeral for

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Speaker 1: him right now. And he picked him up. He picked

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Speaker 1: Jordan up and gave him to his sister Alison, And

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Speaker 1: it's just amazing to me. I'm looking at a photo

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Speaker 1: of the little boy they took for trial purposes, and

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Speaker 1: his legs looked like bones with skin on them. You know,

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Speaker 1: the other children are also mistreated to a tiny degree,

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Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany. For instance, the mom would take away the

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Speaker 1: brother and sister's cell phones and not let them communicate

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Speaker 1: with the outside world. So is there any way, Bethany,

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Speaker 1: that this woman could be rehabilitated, Not that I care,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to Rotten Hill. No, she cannot be rehabilitated, Nancy.

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Speaker 1: This pattern of abuse reminds me of an adult female,

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Speaker 1: a mother who came to my practice who was very

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Speaker 1: preoccupied with talking about her thirteen year old daughter, and

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Speaker 1: she was obsessed with the perimeter of the daughter's room,

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Speaker 1: the idea that the daughter sometimes crossed the threshold to

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Speaker 1: come out into the hallway, or would look out the

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Speaker 1: screen window because boys would come to the screen window.

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Speaker 1: And there was all these thoughts about the daughter escaping.

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Speaker 1: And I eventually realized about two sessions in that the

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Speaker 1: mother had actually jailed the daughter in her bedroom. With

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Speaker 1: all this obsessional content about the daughter escaping or getting away. Well,

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Speaker 1: needless to say, I had to call a CPSS, and

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Speaker 1: it was a big deal. But I think this idea

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Speaker 1: that you're going to escape, you're my property. I own you.

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Speaker 1: If you get out into the world, something bad is

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Speaker 1: going to happen. These types of thoughts predominate for abuse

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Speaker 1: of parents, so I am not surprised that they took

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Speaker 1: away the other children's cell phones, and probably Nancy, I mean,

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Speaker 1: Cody and Alison were probably so brainwashed by their parents.

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Speaker 1: The fact that they actually told teachers and helped to

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Speaker 1: save their little brother is it's just so admirable to me,

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Speaker 1: because many siblings don't. They're just simply too afraid. Listen

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Speaker 1: to this. This is from the brother. When he picked

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Speaker 1: up Jordan, quote, it was like I wasn't holding anything.

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Speaker 1: He was so light. It wasn't like holding a kid

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Speaker 1: at all. He was so white, and his cheeks were sunken,

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Speaker 1: and he smelled terrible. I hadn't seen him in offer

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Speaker 1: a week before this, and he was scared and he

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Speaker 1: didn't know what was happening, and I told him everything

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Speaker 1: would be okay. He describes that the stepdad was aggressive

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Speaker 1: with baby Jordan, and it was quote like he was

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Speaker 1: trying to make Jordan's suffer. And I thought it was weird,

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Speaker 1: but it started getting worse. He would hit him around

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Speaker 1: the back of the head, take off his belt and

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Speaker 1: hit him with the belt, throw him around, throw him

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Speaker 1: on the ground. With the food. It started being taking

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Speaker 1: one dinner away from him. Then it turned into dinner

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Speaker 1: and lunch, then it turned into nothing at all May

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Speaker 1: they both. Can I just say it one more time,

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Speaker 1: rot in Hell. They now recovering. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: he will ever recover emotionally and mentally, but this is

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Speaker 1: going on in homes all around the country. God help us.

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Speaker 1: Nancy Gray's Crime Story, signing off, Goodbye, Fred,