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Speaker 1: because like JG said today, there's gonna be a lot
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Speaker 1: Big Red Rage because guests who Tonight's very special guest
Speaker 1: is this same guest we had for show number four hundred,
Speaker 1: Go for it, Wolf present our special guest tonight, ladies
Speaker 1: and gentlemen, we give you Larry Fitzgerald. And I'm also
Speaker 1: known as the Japanese Fighting Fish. Paul. No, absolutely not.
Speaker 1: Let's leave that out when we talk to Larry next segment. Okay,
Speaker 1: so Larry's on deck, can't wake got a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff to talk about, just Larry being Larry and winning
Speaker 1: a life as everyone likes to say. And then what
Speaker 1: he sees in the Arizona Cardinals going forward? What needs
Speaker 1: to happen. Of course, he's been part of that ESPN
Speaker 1: Monday Night Football crew. So okay, we'll get all his thoughts,
Speaker 1: but right now, give me your thoughts just on what
Speaker 1: you've seen so far of the Jonathan Gannon era. And
Speaker 1: it's not so much what you see, it's almost palpable.
Speaker 1: It's what you feel. Is it not just the ultra
Speaker 1: high energy that looks to be more the norm than
Speaker 1: the exception. Yeah, first of all, Paul, I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: to get used to going with JG. I mean, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I mean, you're you're, you're down
Speaker 1: to the initials. I just Jonathan Gannon. I don't know
Speaker 1: if I can go JG. Just ye had Paully having
Speaker 1: said that, Um, this is a young staff that is
Speaker 1: being put together right now. I don't know. There's there's
Speaker 1: a couple of guys. Well, I do know, as a
Speaker 1: matter of fact, at least from the coordinators, there are
Speaker 1: two of their coordinating coordinators that are under forty years old.
Speaker 1: In that Polly, I don't know if that sets a
Speaker 1: record and the National Football League, I don't know where
Speaker 1: else that's been the case where you got a thirty
Speaker 1: five year old and Drew pet Sing and then you've
Speaker 1: got Nick rawlis at twenty nine years of age, and
Speaker 1: the only thing that offsets it a little bit is
Speaker 1: Jeff Rogers coming back as you're special team coordinator. This
Speaker 1: is a young staff that has been put together, Paully,
Speaker 1: Jeff Rogers, a venerable forty four years of age. Right, Yes,
Speaker 1: at this point, think about that. Yeah, Nick row is
Speaker 1: the NFL's youngest coordinator, the defensive coordinator the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 1: He was introduced yesterday. We'll hear from him a little
Speaker 1: bit later. We'll get into that. True Petson was introduced today.
Speaker 1: We'll talk all about the Cardinals offense a little bit later.
Speaker 1: We'll hear from the new OC along with the head
Speaker 1: coach who was alongside for both of those press conferences. Yesterday,
Speaker 1: Wolf we heard from the owner of Michael Bidwell. He
Speaker 1: was on the Dave Pass podcast and we learned a lot,
Speaker 1: a lot of really good insight. Highly recommend dialing up
Speaker 1: the Dave Pass podcast. And here the owner of Michael Bidwell, who,
Speaker 1: as Dave said, the busiest man in sports over the
Speaker 1: last month or so, hosting the Super Bowl, filling the
Speaker 1: GMA head coach spots in fact, speaking to the GM.
Speaker 1: Here's Michael on his conversations with Mannie Asenford about this
Speaker 1: Cardinals roster number one. We spent a lot of time
Speaker 1: talking about Kyler and what type of offense we should
Speaker 1: be running, and how to protect him, and where we
Speaker 1: should be spending our money. We've got a lot of
Speaker 1: money tied up in a couple of different positions, and
Speaker 1: so I think you're gonna see that change. We're gonna
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna see us beefing up the offensive line,
Speaker 1: the defensive line. We've got to get help at corner.
Speaker 1: We've got to get them just more protection for Kyler,
Speaker 1: and then we've got to be able to rush the passers,
Speaker 1: especially in the NFC West. So and well, you've talked
Speaker 1: about it at length. We talked about it all last season.
Speaker 1: You got to win to the line of scrimmage before
Speaker 1: you can win on the scoreboard. And it looks like
Speaker 1: the Cardinals and the new decision makers have identified as much. Yeah, Polly,
Speaker 1: you know, my first thought here is, of course they've
Speaker 1: talked about the offense, the type of offense that Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray's got to be in. You know, how I feel
Speaker 1: about this. Polly been talking about it for years now,
Speaker 1: but I'd love to see Kyler Murray more under center.
Speaker 1: And that is something that Jonathan Gannon already has talked about.
Speaker 1: I'm sure. I'm sure Drew Petsingh did not like that.
Speaker 1: It did not like them out there actually talking about it,
Speaker 1: because why would you talk about it at all? You
Speaker 1: don't ever want to let the opponent know what it
Speaker 1: is that you're thinking. Yet at the same time, I
Speaker 1: think it's it's important that you manage expectations. And it's
Speaker 1: not only the expectations I think of your coaching staff,
Speaker 1: it's also more importantly of your players. And that's what
Speaker 1: I liked about JG. I like the fact he did
Speaker 1: come out and say we're going to put him under
Speaker 1: center more and you know it's going to be shotgun
Speaker 1: of course, and under center. I think you need that. Paul.
Speaker 1: I think you need to blend the old and the new,
Speaker 1: and that's why I was glad to hear Michael actually
Speaker 1: talk about the fact they talked a long time with
Speaker 1: Mannie Asenford about what kind of offense he needed to
Speaker 1: be in. Look, the reality is, you can't put Kyler
Speaker 1: under center, basically any less than what they've done, right,
Speaker 1: So I don't know how we're revealing it really is.
Speaker 1: When the stat I saw on ESPN today was that
Speaker 1: on six of four hundred and thirty seven dropbacks last year,
Speaker 1: Kyler was under center. Think about that. So it was
Speaker 1: the lowest percentage in the NFL. What's intriguing is the
Speaker 1: second lowest percentage of being under center as a quarterback
Speaker 1: on dropbacks was Jalen Hurts. So yes, we'll see what
Speaker 1: that means exactly, because Jonathan Gannon has said that is
Speaker 1: a very specific idea in mind of how he wants
Speaker 1: to play offense. So he will be involved with Drew
Speaker 1: pet seen in the construction and the calling of this offense,
Speaker 1: the philosophy as for Kyler, who's Michael Bidwell in the
Speaker 1: Day Pash podcast just on Kyler's return. You know, I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be earlier than you know this mid season,
Speaker 1: so hopefully it's towards the beginning of the season. But
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to put any specific dates
Speaker 1: because there could be setbacks, there could be the progress
Speaker 1: could slow. But I think right now, I mean, he's
Speaker 1: a young man. It looks like he's a fast healer.
Speaker 1: Things are going well. Let's hope that keeps going the
Speaker 1: way it is and then that there are no setbacks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: no timetable. In fact, Jonathan Gannon said as much again today.
Speaker 1: But I think both are bullish optimistic that it doesn't
Speaker 1: have to be mid season. It could be earlier, It
Speaker 1: could be towards the beginning of the season just as easily. Yeah, Pauli,
Speaker 1: you know, once again, I like to use a nine
Speaker 1: more when you're talking about an ACL I like to
Speaker 1: use a nine month window right there, that's right in
Speaker 1: the middle. There are guys where it does take longer
Speaker 1: than nine months, Paulie. There are guys that does take shorter.
Speaker 1: They recover quicker and they're out there before that nine
Speaker 1: month mark in terms of rehab. But using that right
Speaker 1: there would put him when he did it, right in
Speaker 1: the middle of September for the most part. And you know,
Speaker 1: I think that's a good place to start. Now. It
Speaker 1: could be sooner, it could be later, But I think
Speaker 1: you've got to manage expectations to some degree on this.
Speaker 1: And yet the mid season stuff that I agree with
Speaker 1: Michael on that, I think that's really being pessimistic. Well,
Speaker 1: and everyone's different obviously, and also he had some meniscus damage,
Speaker 1: so how does that factor in. That's an unknown. But
Speaker 1: when Jonathan Gannon tells the story of leaving the building
Speaker 1: the other day at nine o'clock at night and there's
Speaker 1: a really nice car park to his and he did
Speaker 1: a one eighty when back into the building and was
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray still rehabbing nine o'clock at night. So from
Speaker 1: all accounts, he's really attacked this process, and I think
Speaker 1: that's why there's definitely some optimism. And then when they
Speaker 1: get back to playing offense. You heard what Jonathan Gannon
Speaker 1: or may have seen the quotes to Peter King, and
Speaker 1: he said, among other things, quote this offense will look
Speaker 1: much different. And we got maybe a little bit more
Speaker 1: in terms of elaborating on how and where. When Michael
Speaker 1: Bidwell was talking about just making things easier for Kyler, well,
Speaker 1: I think what we're gonna do is try to take
Speaker 1: some of the pressure off of him. The way the
Speaker 1: offense was before, he had a choice on almost every
Speaker 1: play we ran, and so we were making him think
Speaker 1: too much and we were making him put too much
Speaker 1: pressure on him. And what we need him to do
Speaker 1: is to play faster and to play with that confidence
Speaker 1: that will come with Okay, I don't have to get
Speaker 1: every first down. I can hand the ball off. I
Speaker 1: know they're going to put him under center quite a
Speaker 1: bit and that's going to take some of the pressure off.
Speaker 1: By the way, we're going to see some of these
Speaker 1: conversations here, these four ourselves. We're gonna see Kyler behind
Speaker 1: the scenes rehabbing tonight. Cardinals Flight Plan the debut episode
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, seven o'clock tonight. You catch it live
Speaker 1: right after the Big Red Rage, or on demand later
Speaker 1: via YouTube dot com slash as Cardinals Cardinals flight Plan
Speaker 1: the Emmy Award winning But based on what Michael said
Speaker 1: right there, I mean wolf translate, what are you expecting?
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, I love what he said right at
Speaker 1: the end, Polly about the under center a little bit
Speaker 1: more and take the pressure off of Kyler Murray. That's
Speaker 1: exactly what you do when you put you when you
Speaker 1: put that quarterback under center. Man, here it goes. Snap
Speaker 1: the ball and guess what, Polly, you run to that
Speaker 1: mesh point. You run to that mesh point with James Connor,
Speaker 1: and you hand the ball off to James Connor. You
Speaker 1: hand the ball off to the running back, and you
Speaker 1: let the running back attack the line of scrimmage. You
Speaker 1: let him do what he does. You let that offensive
Speaker 1: line eat. You let them come off the ball with
Speaker 1: a dark heart and a painted face and try to
Speaker 1: drive somebody into the ground. When you run the ball
Speaker 1: with a quarterback under center, you're taking the pressure off him.
Speaker 1: Because now also too, when you run bootlegs off that
Speaker 1: which you know, okay, you're going to fake the handoff
Speaker 1: and now you're going to bootleg, you're going to roll
Speaker 1: out to the strong side, or a waggle is rolling
Speaker 1: out to the weak side, whatever way it is. There's
Speaker 1: an immediate read on that. So much of the time,
Speaker 1: if the guy in the flat is open, put it
Speaker 1: on him, dump it on him right now. It's there.
Speaker 1: There is no decision. It's like one simple decision, you know.
Speaker 1: And I think that's something that they want to do.
Speaker 1: They want to take the pressure off of Kyler Murray
Speaker 1: by putting him under center more and I oversimplified all
Speaker 1: of that, Paul, But I can just tell you right now,
Speaker 1: I know what Michael is saying, and I believe it's
Speaker 1: going to work in terms of alleviating a lot of
Speaker 1: the stress on Kyler Murray. There was a Browns beat writer.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's on with you, but it's
Speaker 1: on ninety eight seven FM Arizona Sports, just talking about
Speaker 1: how he fully expects Drew pet seem to really special.
Speaker 1: Lies in the bootleg a lot of play action moving
Speaker 1: the pocket, so it's intriguing. It's definitely intriguing how the
Speaker 1: Cardinals are gonna use Kyler Murray. And you can catch
Speaker 1: all of Michael's comments. And I highly recommend the pash
Speaker 1: Pod wherever you get your podcasts. It just dropped the
Speaker 1: owner with Dave pash up. Next, how about the legend
Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald. We talk all thing Cardinals and the future
Speaker 1: with fitz Next on the Big Red Rage with the
Speaker 1: third Choice and then two thousand four NFL Draft the
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. Just like Larry Fitzgerald wide receiver, University of
Speaker 1: Fitzgerald's wandered to pass with time, fires over the middle
Speaker 1: of the fits caught in the forty five five day
Speaker 1: fitzst thirty good Bye five Cardinals Land put down Larry Fitzgerald.
Speaker 1: You gotta meet hid a sixty four yard touchdown passed
Speaker 1: by Warner to Fitzgerald and the Cardinals lead. Super Bowl
Speaker 1: forty three. Palmer setting up, He's in trouble. He's hit,
Speaker 1: gets out of there and rolls right, throws back to
Speaker 1: the left, fits us White open one of the thirty
Speaker 1: five bow. He's there. He's at the forty at the fifty,
Speaker 1: turns up field in the forty five ten the forty
Speaker 1: thirty five stiffis thirty twenty five twenty fitch to the
Speaker 1: near side, ten to the five and tackled there staffed
Speaker 1: the Palmer rolls off pit. It's a pitch the fitz
Speaker 1: Triennis Rady ahead, hit of the ends, out of the
Speaker 1: shovel fast, but a touchdown of the windows. But Cardinals
Speaker 1: at dance to the NFC Championship game on a shovel pass,
Speaker 1: of all things, and one of the craziest games ever.
Speaker 1: Still love the no look stiff arm love it. Show
Speaker 1: number six hundred Wolf you gotta go big or go home?
Speaker 1: And uh yes, that's foreshadowing right there. Yes. He was
Speaker 1: also our guest for show number four hundred and if
Speaker 1: memory serves, that was the show on site on location
Speaker 1: where he gave away one of tim Hovick's cars, unbeknownst
Speaker 1: to Tim Hovec, who was having a beer and then
Speaker 1: realized he was giving away one of his cars up
Speaker 1: on stage. Yea. In fact, most recently you might have
Speaker 1: seen our special guest tonight as the frontman of the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl Host Committee, Wolf Big Title, Executive Chair of
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl Host Committee ESPN Monday Night Football. We've
Speaker 1: seen him there always got a podcast with Tom Brady
Speaker 1: by the way right and a multi sport athlete these days, golf, chess,
Speaker 1: pickle ball, and he played a little football along the way. Yes,
Speaker 1: we're introducing Larry Fitzgerald here on the Big Red Rage,
Speaker 1: presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert Larry, how is you?
Speaker 1: I'm doing great, man. I hope Tim is listening so
Speaker 1: we can make sure we'll be giving another car away.
Speaker 1: And for some reason, I'm going back to my text message.
Speaker 1: I don't see the text for show, but I'm glad
Speaker 1: I could be back foots man. It's so good to
Speaker 1: hear you. How's everybody doing. Everybody doing okay, everybody's great.
Speaker 1: Then Devin got a lacrosse game later, so you know,
Speaker 1: just doing the daddy duty, you know, how it is
Speaker 1: what kind of parent are you on the sidelines, Larry,
Speaker 1: Come on, be honest. Now, Wolf Wolf has to control
Speaker 1: himself on those flag football sidelines, how about you. No,
Speaker 1: I try to keep a little profile and trying not
Speaker 1: to make it about myself. Man, it's I just want
Speaker 1: to support them. I don't want to put any pressure
Speaker 1: on them and just you know, just make sure they're
Speaker 1: having a good time. That's most important, and staying healthy.
Speaker 1: But I don't get too involved. I try to ask
Speaker 1: me a question, and Devin asked me a question, I'll
Speaker 1: answer it, but I don't try to interject too often.
Speaker 1: So fits to you. It is your first year in broadcasting.
Speaker 1: Are you enjoying it? My brother, Yeah, it was a
Speaker 1: lot of fun this year. I enjoyed you know. They
Speaker 1: asked me initially to do a little bit more, but
Speaker 1: I wanted to take a little bit more, you know,
Speaker 1: scarce approach, to make sure there's something I really enjoy it,
Speaker 1: and I did. I enjoyed the camaraderie, not only in studio,
Speaker 1: but you know, being um you know, they're alive for
Speaker 1: the games and Monday night was really cool. And it'll
Speaker 1: be able to be that close to the games and
Speaker 1: be able to interact with, you know, Steve Young's and
Speaker 1: RG threes and Booker McFarlane, some very knowledgeable guys that
Speaker 1: I got. I learned a great deal from anything. Surprise
Speaker 1: you about the broadcasting business now that you're in front
Speaker 1: of the camera and you see what's going on behind
Speaker 1: the scenes, surprise me. Um, anything you learn, maybe you're like, okay,
Speaker 1: I didn't quite realize that. Now you can really differentiate yourself,
Speaker 1: you know, if you put in the work and do
Speaker 1: the homework in terms of studying right. Um. I think
Speaker 1: a lot of guys, you know, when they play the game,
Speaker 1: they think like, what if you can attest to this,
Speaker 1: you know, you think that you can just walk off
Speaker 1: the field and do the media at a high level
Speaker 1: by just just because you played. But that's not that's
Speaker 1: not realistic. There's a reason that there's people out there
Speaker 1: been doing this for twenty five and thirty years at
Speaker 1: the highest level is because they have a look commitment
Speaker 1: and dedication that makes them special. And you have to
Speaker 1: take that same level of dedication that you took when
Speaker 1: you were you know, a professional athlete and take that
Speaker 1: same motivation to broadcasting or to whatever media platform you're
Speaker 1: you're going to be in and you know, there's no shortcuts.
Speaker 1: If you want to be good, you got to put
Speaker 1: the work in like anything else in life. What was
Speaker 1: the hardest part about that, Larry specifically, what was the
Speaker 1: hardest part about broadcasting? Uh? You know, I mean, like
Speaker 1: you guys are on radio, right, so you get a
Speaker 1: chance to be on air, um, you know, regularly, and
Speaker 1: you have a lot of time that you have to
Speaker 1: feel Like on TV, you know, you literally have you know,
Speaker 1: four or five segments, so you don't have a whole
Speaker 1: lot of things you can talk about. You just have
Speaker 1: to high level thoughts. You know that that the audience
Speaker 1: can really understand and relate to it. I can't go
Speaker 1: out there and talk X and os and you know,
Speaker 1: depths on certain routes and this coveras because most of
Speaker 1: people are listening don't have any idea what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: So billing condensed down to make you know, valid points
Speaker 1: that are facts, will you know, utilizing you know, the
Speaker 1: relationships that you have around the league with coaches and players, etc.
Speaker 1: To be able to have and also using analytics to
Speaker 1: be able to tie those all in to make you
Speaker 1: know very tight you know, valid points. You know that
Speaker 1: the audience can resonate with Yes. Larry Fitzgerald is our
Speaker 1: guest here on The Big Red Rage presented by Santan
Speaker 1: Ford and Gilbert. By the Way, if You're Scoring at
Speaker 1: Home is thirteenth all time appearance on The Big Red
Speaker 1: Rage going back to OH four. Cardinals have a brand
Speaker 1: new head coach, Jonathan Gannon. He's talking about accountability, something
Speaker 1: Michael Bidwell's cited in the offseason as what's needed in
Speaker 1: this rebuild, trying to establish a culture. What's a common
Speaker 1: trait in your experience and having an effective culture? Larry,
Speaker 1: And what do you think is part of that accountability?
Speaker 1: Where does it start? What does it look like? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean you look around the league and you look
Speaker 1: at the best teams, right, you know, accountability is something
Speaker 1: that I hear a lot of people talk about, but
Speaker 1: it has to be something that the players, because the
Speaker 1: players police a locker. You know, when I got to Arizona,
Speaker 1: you know, our record wasn't wasn't great, but you know,
Speaker 1: the way Emma Smith went about his business, the way
Speaker 1: Adrian Wilson went about their business, it was something that
Speaker 1: I could look to and say, look, these guys are
Speaker 1: doing it at a high level, not only professionally on
Speaker 1: the football field, but they're doing as a high level
Speaker 1: as men and individuals and leaders. And so you have
Speaker 1: to develop that leadership, like like the players that you draft,
Speaker 1: the free agent that you bring in have to embody
Speaker 1: a lot of those characteristics because then then the coach
Speaker 1: doesn't have to talk about why you like to practice
Speaker 1: that the energy and practice needs to pick up, like
Speaker 1: those things not even happened to be addressed. You know,
Speaker 1: I look back to when Kurt came and you know
Speaker 1: how he really shifted, you know, how things were going. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I thought I was practicing hard up. I
Speaker 1: thought I was putting in the work. But no, Kurt said,
Speaker 1: Isaac Bruce and Tory Holt or doing it at this level.
Speaker 1: And if you want to be at that level, these
Speaker 1: are the things that you're gonna have to do. And
Speaker 1: so it's a trickle down effect. And I don't know
Speaker 1: it's necessary. I don't know if it's always on the
Speaker 1: coaches to bring those type of things. It really comes
Speaker 1: down to the players. And I think about the great
Speaker 1: leadership they have in that locker room. You know, Bude Baker,
Speaker 1: if you have fifty three Bude Bankers. You would never
Speaker 1: lose a football game ever because the guy is build
Speaker 1: but he has made of all the greatest things that
Speaker 1: you can ever have and a football player. I mean,
Speaker 1: the work ethic, you know, all the intangibles, the intelligence,
Speaker 1: willing to play through injuries for his brothers. I mean,
Speaker 1: all of these things are our model. Like you could
Speaker 1: you could build a model with that guy, right, So,
Speaker 1: you can't tell me that that there's not wonderful leadership
Speaker 1: in that in that locker room, Yeah, Larry, you know
Speaker 1: Jonathan Gannon was talking to Peter King about using Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray under center a lot more right now. Your thoughts
Speaker 1: on that, Larry, how do you think that might help
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray? And and theory you would like him to
Speaker 1: be able to do it because, um, you know, it
Speaker 1: opens us some things that weren't possible, you know, in
Speaker 1: previous years. But it's something that he's had to work on.
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't even tell you, you know, just
Speaker 1: looking back in college this wally last time he's actually
Speaker 1: taking a snap under center. You know, Um, that's not
Speaker 1: something that you just you know, get right into. Mean,
Speaker 1: you need you need lots of practice with the center
Speaker 1: that you have a great rapport with, so that that's
Speaker 1: gonna take time. What's this ceiling? You saw Jalen Hurts,
Speaker 1: you know, take a hugely forward second team All Pro
Speaker 1: this year. How much more potentially than Kyler has in
Speaker 1: this offense has well? I mean you look the Eagles,
Speaker 1: I mean they're just they're a really well solid built teams.
Speaker 1: Lan Hurst did not have to go out and win
Speaker 1: every single game. Um. You know those games of the
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles rush for three hundred and fifty yards, There's
Speaker 1: games that they threw for over three hundred and fifty yards.
Speaker 1: There's there's games where they had you know, double digit
Speaker 1: sacks where the defense you know, really was dominant. Now
Speaker 1: they could beat you in a play for a different ways. Um.
Speaker 1: I think Kyler has to play or had to play
Speaker 1: at a much higher level. Um, you know than Jalen
Speaker 1: Is has had to. And you know, to explain it, like,
Speaker 1: there's more that's required a Kyler for the Cardinals to
Speaker 1: win than there is for Jalen for the Equals to win. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, just because of how the team is built,
Speaker 1: fact that Jonathan Gannon is a defensive minded head coach. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a problem with with having that, um,
Speaker 1: you know, badest things. It's important to be able to
Speaker 1: have somebody that can communicate UM effectively, what the expectations
Speaker 1: are offensively, because you know, often when you have a
Speaker 1: defensive coach, they they spend you know, the lion's share
Speaker 1: of their time with the defense, and when you hired
Speaker 1: offensive staff, usually they spend the lion's share of their
Speaker 1: time focus on the offense. And I think that, you know,
Speaker 1: to to really develop, you know, a young team like
Speaker 1: the Cardinals are, um, you know, you have to be
Speaker 1: all hands on, and you know, I just hope that
Speaker 1: he really, you know, can surround Kyler with the things
Speaker 1: he needs, you know, so he can so he can
Speaker 1: be effective. Do you remember Ba's first training camp. Early
Speaker 1: in camp, he yelled at you in front of everyone.
Speaker 1: When you look back at that, do you think that
Speaker 1: was by design that he said, you know what, if
Speaker 1: I'm holding the superstar layer for his should accountable, then
Speaker 1: everyone's gonna have to fall in line. Yeah. I had
Speaker 1: no problem being coached like whatsoever. Like in you know,
Speaker 1: I think the best I ever was is when I
Speaker 1: had guys who were really really hard on me. I
Speaker 1: mean Todd Haley. I mean he was, he was, He
Speaker 1: was miserable to be around. Mostly he was the bad
Speaker 1: cause I'm not saying that as in a negative way.
Speaker 1: But he knew what I needed to take me to
Speaker 1: the level that I was trying to go to. And
Speaker 1: often players don't know what you need. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: when you're really good and you've had success in every
Speaker 1: single level, you don't always have an understanding of what
Speaker 1: you really need to take yourself to that to that
Speaker 1: next level. Right. Um. And you know Todd was able
Speaker 1: to extract, you know, every ounce of that out of me,
Speaker 1: and it was by any means necessary. I didn't necessarily
Speaker 1: like the way he did it, but he brought the
Speaker 1: best out of me. And like, you know, you need
Speaker 1: to find that out from your players, like what can
Speaker 1: they take? What can they tolerate? Before you know, they
Speaker 1: become despondent and unwilling to learn and participate any longer. Right,
Speaker 1: And everybody has a different leash, right, Um, you know
Speaker 1: I could. It didn't matter what you said to me,
Speaker 1: as long as it wasn't like a personal thing. You know,
Speaker 1: you said, I was playing like crap and I need
Speaker 1: to be better, like I had no problem with that,
Speaker 1: And I had no problem with it being done loud,
Speaker 1: because if because everybody can see the tape, if I'm
Speaker 1: not making the plays that you expect me to make,
Speaker 1: that's not like you're telling me something that everybody else
Speaker 1: in his locker room, everybody else in the world can't see.
Speaker 1: You're not getting open and you're not making the play.
Speaker 1: It's not it's just not personal. This is just business, right, UM.
Speaker 1: And I think you know, guys need to be you know,
Speaker 1: held accountable. You need to be talked to, UM and
Speaker 1: held to a high standard. You know, Larry, you were
Speaker 1: involved obviously in the Super Bowl host committee. UM, what
Speaker 1: did you do and did you enjoy that? I love
Speaker 1: UM And I think Michael Bill will for you know,
Speaker 1: connecting me and getting getting me involved in it. You know,
Speaker 1: I remember the call, you know, a year and a
Speaker 1: half ago when he called me and asked me, Um,
Speaker 1: you know that the host committee was considering offering me
Speaker 1: a position, and I kind of asked him what it
Speaker 1: what it would entail. He gave me a you know,
Speaker 1: a lengthy explanation of what exactly will happen and how
Speaker 1: how it will go, and it went exactly the way
Speaker 1: he explained it to me, I was really really privileged
Speaker 1: to be a part of it. You know. I told
Speaker 1: a story and an introduction press conference, you know, when
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl kicked off on Monday, about how when
Speaker 1: you're a player playing any game, you have no idea
Speaker 1: about how any of these things are happening. You get
Speaker 1: off the plane and the buses are they're waiting for you.
Speaker 1: You're not telling the bus where to go. They know
Speaker 1: exactly where to go and drop you off at a
Speaker 1: designated location. The room keys, they're sitting there waiting for you.
Speaker 1: When you get off the bus, you go up to
Speaker 1: your room, the bags are waiting. They come up in
Speaker 1: a few a few minutes after that, Like you really
Speaker 1: don't have to think about any of those things. But
Speaker 1: now being a part of such big how the Sasage
Speaker 1: was made, Like there's a lot of planning and meticulous
Speaker 1: detail that goes into that, you know, in terms of
Speaker 1: the money that's raised to go to all these wonderful
Speaker 1: causes and charities around in the city. You know, to
Speaker 1: make sure that the financial impact is not just the
Speaker 1: one weak financial impact, that it has a trickle down
Speaker 1: effect to a lot of the wonderful things that you're
Speaker 1: joining those communities and the planning that goes behind that.
Speaker 1: And so it was great to be able to see that,
Speaker 1: to be able to meet some some prominent business associates
Speaker 1: and see how you know government, you know from every
Speaker 1: level to corporate America, I can work together to create
Speaker 1: such a magnificent event. Last question for Larry Fitzgerald. He
Speaker 1: might be busier now than he was as a player.
Speaker 1: Part of it is you're a part owner and a
Speaker 1: pickle ball team. Well, what intrigues you about pickle ball
Speaker 1: and what sort of future do you see for the sport? Well,
Speaker 1: I see, I see a really big future for it.
Speaker 1: It's the fastest growing sport in the game. It's one
Speaker 1: of the few games that I've ever seen and played
Speaker 1: that you can in ten minutes, you know, four people
Speaker 1: start playing they've never played it before. You explained the rules,
Speaker 1: the dudes and the don'ts, and in ten minutes those
Speaker 1: four players could be having a great time. If I
Speaker 1: told you I handed you a golf club, I said,
Speaker 1: I want you to be able to hit this golf
Speaker 1: club straight, and I want you to be able to
Speaker 1: hit to draw tomorrow and a cut the next day.
Speaker 1: It would take that person seven eight months of hitting
Speaker 1: balls every single day. You know, if I gave you
Speaker 1: a tennis racket and say, look, I want you to
Speaker 1: be able to have an effective serve, it would take
Speaker 1: you a year a practice for you to be able
Speaker 1: to go out there and have a serve that you
Speaker 1: can win with. You know, those games are really hard
Speaker 1: to pick up and adopt. You know, pick a ball
Speaker 1: is very different from that. And also, my six year
Speaker 1: old son can play, and so and so can ninety
Speaker 1: ninety year old grandmas. They can have fun. You know,
Speaker 1: it's not many games where you can see that they
Speaker 1: can span that um that larger of an age gap.
Speaker 1: So I think it's a really really great game, wonderful
Speaker 1: way for people to get together and and be a
Speaker 1: part of the community. And I think there's a there's
Speaker 1: a lot of out of where the game can continue
Speaker 1: to grow. Know fits a from what I hear, Pitt's
Speaker 1: pickleball team sucks, butterball is that true. I'm I'm there
Speaker 1: that that Pity even has a pickleball team, but I'm
Speaker 1: pretty I'm pretty sure if they do, it would be
Speaker 1: wester Larry. We know you got stuff to do. You
Speaker 1: gotta pick up Devin Man. We thank you seriously, thank
Speaker 1: you for the time. Appreciate it us. I was good
Speaker 1: to hang with you guys. And congratulations on six hundred
Speaker 1: and I hope for another six hundred. Absolutely appreciate it.
Speaker 1: And we're gonna blame five hundred on COVID or Wolf
Speaker 1: one of the others. So thanks, Larry. I know, I
Speaker 1: know is West Virginia roots. I understand a buffalo alert.
Speaker 1: Thank you. There you go, Larry Fitzgerald, who retired without
Speaker 1: ever using the word retirement. It's it was a masterful plan.
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. We'll be back with more
Speaker 1: of the big Red rage right after this. The vision
Speaker 1: of how I want to play defense and how I
Speaker 1: want defensive players to act and the coaches to serve
Speaker 1: the players. He had that vision. He shared that vision
Speaker 1: with me. Very high capacity, very high character, which were
Speaker 1: those were the two most important part of pieces for
Speaker 1: me hiring coaches. And he has those and complete faith
Speaker 1: in Nick to run the defense, and he will run
Speaker 1: the defense. Jonathan Gannon confirming, Then Nick Rowlis will call
Speaker 1: the defense. So the Cardinals new head coach will be
Speaker 1: a CEO overseeing the defense. And the offense, but he
Speaker 1: will not be the play caller on defense like he
Speaker 1: was with the Eagles. In fact, you're talking about the
Speaker 1: Eagles linebackers coach Nick Rowlis, who is now on board
Speaker 1: at age twenty nine, the NFL's youngest coordinator in the league.
Speaker 1: It is the Big Red Rage presented by satan Ford
Speaker 1: and Gilbert. We are Satan Ford, Paul kelbc, Ron Wolfley's
Speaker 1: special thanks to Larry Fitzgerald, the Legend for joining us
Speaker 1: in the last segment and hitting all things Arizona Cardinals
Speaker 1: and look, it's a young staff. Wolf I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know to what degree you view that as a
Speaker 1: concern at all. It was brought up during the press
Speaker 1: conference and it was a question posed right to Nick
Speaker 1: Rowlis and his answer was exactly what Jonathan Gannon has
Speaker 1: told him over the years, and they almost recited it
Speaker 1: together and wrote fashion when they said, and I'm quoting,
Speaker 1: experience is not synonymous with knowledge. In other words, capability,
Speaker 1: not birth certificate. Just can you do the job? And
Speaker 1: to what level? And Jonathan Gann it feels like he's
Speaker 1: identified a lot of high performers. Yeah, you know what, Polly,
Speaker 1: I love that attitude I really do, because it chose
Speaker 1: an awful lot of confidence in yourself. And I'm not
Speaker 1: disagreeing with anything that he implied or he said there, Polly,
Speaker 1: but I will tell you right now, the proof is
Speaker 1: in the pudding, so to speak. Going out and getting
Speaker 1: it done on the field. That's the only way to
Speaker 1: do it. And you know what I love, Paul. I
Speaker 1: love this because the NFL, as you know, I've said
Speaker 1: this many times, PAULI, it's a meritocracy, man. It's the
Speaker 1: ultimate of meritocracy. It really is. You got to prove yourself.
Speaker 1: I don't care if you're a holder on extra point
Speaker 1: field goal ball. You've got to prove yourself that you
Speaker 1: can actually catch that ball, put that ball down, and
Speaker 1: hold that thing perfectly for the kicker so he can
Speaker 1: kick the ball through. I don't care what position you're playing.
Speaker 1: I don't care if you're a coach, a player, a trainer,
Speaker 1: I don't care what it is. If you don't know
Speaker 1: what you're doing, you will be exposed. You will if
Speaker 1: you do, you will be glorified. There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 1: And it's a prove it league, Paul, through and through.
Speaker 1: And what I love about this is. Nick Rawllis knows
Speaker 1: that better than anybody else. JG knows it better than
Speaker 1: anybody else. Drew Petzing knows it better than anybody else.
Speaker 1: It is a meritocracy that wouldn't have it any other way.
Speaker 1: Let me prove to you what it is that I
Speaker 1: know well. Nick Rowlis had interests from the Broncos before
Speaker 1: he took the Cardinals job. In fact, you might have
Speaker 1: seen the Broncos today made it official advance. Joseph is
Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator to the former head coach of Denver
Speaker 1: and former Cardinals defensive coordinator. Obviously, Philly had interest in
Speaker 1: retaining Nick Rowlis after Jonathan Gannon came to the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: But there he is. He's on the Cardinals staff. He's
Speaker 1: running the defense. And he was asked about keys defining
Speaker 1: success as a DC being adaptable and more specifically, be
Speaker 1: adaptable to the players that you have right, being able
Speaker 1: to utilize our guys skill sets that puts them in
Speaker 1: the best position to win games. Ultimately, what do we
Speaker 1: have to do on a week tweek basis to beat
Speaker 1: the opponent? And there's a whole other component of it's
Speaker 1: as far as serving the players right and that's everybody
Speaker 1: in the organization doing what their job is in order
Speaker 1: to truly maximize the players ability and potential. Your reaction
Speaker 1: to that, Wolf and Paul, I'm loving this when I'm
Speaker 1: hearing from Jonathan Gannon, of course, and from Nick Rawlis.
Speaker 1: I love this approach right here. They're not being ideologues, Paul.
Speaker 1: They're not being dogmatic. They're not saying there's only one
Speaker 1: way to skin a cat. There is not just one
Speaker 1: way to skin a cat metaphorically speaking, of course, there
Speaker 1: are many ways you can actually do this. I love
Speaker 1: the fact that they're not saying there is only one
Speaker 1: way to do it, and I happen to know how
Speaker 1: to do it. They're using the adaptable word, Paul. We're
Speaker 1: going to be adaptable offensively and defensively, and in transition,
Speaker 1: we are going to adapt. I love that approach. And
Speaker 1: you know what, there's a reason, I think and you're
Speaker 1: onto it. There's a reason. That was the first word
Speaker 1: he listed in his opening press conference, Jonathan Gannon, when
Speaker 1: he was asked about the four pillars of his coaching philosophy,
Speaker 1: he said adaptable, violent, explosive, and smart in that order,
Speaker 1: and he went on to elaborate later that if you
Speaker 1: are of the mindset that there's one way and it's
Speaker 1: your way or the highway, you're d o way. You're
Speaker 1: dead in the water because you are predictable and you
Speaker 1: better be able to evolve. And let's face it, especially
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one wolf after the seven and oh
Speaker 1: ten and two start, how many times in December and
Speaker 1: January did we say about the Arizona Cardinals they needed
Speaker 1: to adjust to the adjustment A season is a constant evolution,
Speaker 1: and I think we can look at that and cite
Speaker 1: that as one of the culprits of the fact that
Speaker 1: Cardinals have lost eighteen to the last twenty three and
Speaker 1: why there was a house cleaning after this campaign. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: you're right on that, Paula. You really are. One of
Speaker 1: the other things I want to say quickly about the
Speaker 1: Nick Rowllis presser. In one answer, Paul, he used the
Speaker 1: V word violence three times in one answer. He reference
Speaker 1: that in Paula, you know, we all know we're talking
Speaker 1: about the white lines, the paradigm of the football field
Speaker 1: and being out on a football field and dog gone
Speaker 1: at Paul. One of the great things about the game
Speaker 1: of football is you can actually be violent in between
Speaker 1: those white lines. And then Paul, you walk outside those
Speaker 1: white lines, you love people, respect him, and treat him
Speaker 1: better than yourself. It doesn't get any better. It's a
Speaker 1: grown man, I'm telling you. And they're using that word,
Speaker 1: and not only Jag using that word, but Nick rawleis
Speaker 1: his defensive coordinator, is twenty nine years old. He's using
Speaker 1: that word. Why because they're gonna demand you play that way, Paul.
Speaker 1: That's something Rallis even pointed out. He said, we're going
Speaker 1: to demand that they play violently out on the field,
Speaker 1: with a lot of explosiveness. I'm paraphrasing him, but that's
Speaker 1: what he said, Paul, And that, to me, that's how
Speaker 1: you play the game of football. I'm sorry, let's playoff
Speaker 1: football personified. The most physical team typically wins. It's the
Speaker 1: NFC West against the Aaron Donalds and Nick Mosas and
Speaker 1: now you got to try and tackle a Kenneth Walker
Speaker 1: in Seattle. So it's all that, and it's all wrapped
Speaker 1: in this energy that is palpable when you're around this
Speaker 1: coaching staff. In fact, the new DC Nick Rowlis was
Speaker 1: asked just about the energy that comes with Jonathan Gannon
Speaker 1: and company. Being energetic is not the same things as
Speaker 1: being emotional. You know, one thing that I always strive
Speaker 1: to be and that I expect from my staff defensively
Speaker 1: is to be highly emotionally intelligent and to be the
Speaker 1: same person every single day. And I kind of refer
Speaker 1: to it often as emotional intelligence of ultimately being in
Speaker 1: a state of mind where you are optimal to solve problems.
Speaker 1: And that is not the same thing as being energetic.
Speaker 1: I think you have to have both. Wolf. Here's a
Speaker 1: little anecdote for you. In the one week the Jonathan
Speaker 1: Gannon has been head coach, just walking around the Dignity
Speaker 1: Health Training Center of the Cardinals headquarters. You can hear him.
Speaker 1: You can hear him from the other side of the building.
Speaker 1: You can hear the enthusiasm. When you came into the
Speaker 1: press conference yesterday to introduced Rowlis. We had our backs
Speaker 1: to the door and all of a sudden, all you
Speaker 1: hear Wolf. It's like, guys, okay, all right, let's go
Speaker 1: here we are and everyone turns around the media and
Speaker 1: there's the head coach and he's talking about how the
Speaker 1: meetings are gonna be very interactive, that he doesn't want
Speaker 1: guys regurgitating. He's gonna be calling on guys and he
Speaker 1: wants input in feedback, and so it's you know, when
Speaker 1: he says buckle up, he means it, and I think
Speaker 1: you'll get a sense of that Tonight on Cardinal's Flight Plan,
Speaker 1: You're gonna be on that plane flight from Philadelphia to
Speaker 1: the az with Jonathan Gannon and his family. You're gonna
Speaker 1: be with Michael Bidwell. A Day in the Life at
Speaker 1: debuts tonight at seven, the Emmy Award winning series. Catch
Speaker 1: it live on the Cardinals YouTube channel that's YouTube dot com,
Speaker 1: slash as Cardinals, or on demand thereafter. As Cardinal's Flight
Speaker 1: Plan debuts, We'll talk offense with a brand new offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator next on The Big Red Rage, presented by Santan
Speaker 1: Ford and Gilbert. I structured everybody that interviewed around Kyler.
Speaker 1: The questions I was asking about philosophically, how we're going
Speaker 1: to play on offense. What I think is really hard
Speaker 1: for defenses moving forward into twenty twenty three and beyond,
Speaker 1: a lot of those had to do with Kyler. In
Speaker 1: my opinion, that's the number one of the number one
Speaker 1: jobs of the offensive coordinator is to maximize the skill
Speaker 1: set of the quarterback and the other positions as well,
Speaker 1: but we know that's the position that makes it go.
Speaker 1: So that was very centric around all the interviews, and
Speaker 1: I liked his answer. That is Jonathan again and hours
Speaker 1: ago during the introductory press conference their new offensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: Drew Petsn just done Kyler Murray being the focal point
Speaker 1: of those offensive coordinator interviews and that's usually where it
Speaker 1: began and ended. And well, it's a good example as
Speaker 1: this show is so what you like to talk about
Speaker 1: blending the new and the old, right, the traditional and
Speaker 1: the innovative, because here on this episode of The Big
Speaker 1: Red Rage, it is show number six hundred, thinking about
Speaker 1: that right, going back more than two decades, and we're
Speaker 1: introducing a brand new coaching staff and hearing for the
Speaker 1: first time from the new coordinators. So in that way,
Speaker 1: we're sort of blending the new and the old here
Speaker 1: on The Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert.
Speaker 1: Where earlier we heard from Larry Fitzgerald, Larry Legend himself
Speaker 1: and now look Larry played with Kyler. We heard some
Speaker 1: of the comments about Kyler, and I think everyone agrees
Speaker 1: there's still a lot of upside, wouldn't you say, Wolf
Speaker 1: that needs to be unlocked with Kyler Murray. Yeah, oh,
Speaker 1: no doubt about that, Pauli. And again I've been saying
Speaker 1: this and I'll continue to say it. I think Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray needs to fall in love with the game of
Speaker 1: football all over again. He's got to learn the old,
Speaker 1: if you will. He's got to learn how to play
Speaker 1: from under center, learn that package of plays that the
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals I think are going to have him run
Speaker 1: and master those plays, and if in fact he does,
Speaker 1: that allows himself to fall in love with the game
Speaker 1: all over again, not just what he's already experienced, not
Speaker 1: what he knows just now with a new offense, the
Speaker 1: New Age offense, but also blending it with some of
Speaker 1: the old elements that to me gets me all fired up.
Speaker 1: And one of the one of the things that fires
Speaker 1: me up about Drew Pets and Polly just gotta say
Speaker 1: this right now. Hired as the new offensive coordinator at
Speaker 1: the age of thirty five, the Cleveland Browns quarterback coach.
Speaker 1: I love the fact that he's coming from an offense
Speaker 1: that I think blends the old and the new better
Speaker 1: or as well is anybody that is out there. When
Speaker 1: you look at Nick Chubb and how they use Nick
Speaker 1: Chubb where they would put their quarterback under center, and
Speaker 1: they would use Nick Chubb attacking the line of scrimmage
Speaker 1: and then the bootlegs and the waggles that come off
Speaker 1: of that, and the play action that comes off of
Speaker 1: that as well. Paul, they were in two back in Cleveland. Now,
Speaker 1: that's not going to happen here, okay, but they were
Speaker 1: in two back in Cleveland twenty two percent of the time.
Speaker 1: And rundown situation, they're typically an eleven personnel team. Fifty
Speaker 1: percent of the time, they were in eleven personnel. But
Speaker 1: this is a team, the Cleveland Browns, that blended the
Speaker 1: old and the new. And I'm really jacked up because
Speaker 1: I'm hoping Drew Petsing is definitely going to bring that here. No,
Speaker 1: it's a great point. You're absolutely right. In fact, he
Speaker 1: was asked about Kyler Murray just whether he can still
Speaker 1: be expected to be a running quarterback, and Drew Petzing
Speaker 1: said yes, that that will continue to be a big
Speaker 1: part of Kyler's game and E quote doesn't expect that
Speaker 1: to change. So I have to be Paulie, I think
Speaker 1: there's absolutely going to be those aspects of that Brown
Speaker 1: And by the way, the Browns, by the way, we're
Speaker 1: without Deshaun Watson for two thirds of last season, which
Speaker 1: might be real similar to where the Cardinals are. We'll
Speaker 1: see on the timetable for Kyler Murray. But he's been
Speaker 1: there and done that, missing his franchise quarterback and having
Speaker 1: to figure something else out. And you know, because Kyler's rehabbing.
Speaker 1: In fact, Drew Pets and the new OC was asked
Speaker 1: about how Kyler can just learn the offense while he's
Speaker 1: in rehab, A lot of that's going to come from
Speaker 1: the meeting rooms. Certainly, you know, expect him to still
Speaker 1: be involved in the meetings that walk throughs. I know,
Speaker 1: it's something you know, we'll meet with him and he's
Speaker 1: you know, he puts in time to make sure that
Speaker 1: he's ready to go. So a lot of it may
Speaker 1: be more oriented to the classroom, whether it's quizzes or
Speaker 1: watching tape or asking questions, what do you think, well,
Speaker 1: the learning curve and yeah, what kind of challenge is
Speaker 1: that going to be when he's going to be limited
Speaker 1: obviously physically, Yeah, you know, and I don't know, Paul
Speaker 1: I don't know what to say on that, because you
Speaker 1: do want to get out there and you do want
Speaker 1: to wrap it. You want to know what that bootleg
Speaker 1: is like and what that what that seventh step drop
Speaker 1: is gonna be like. Um, I don't know. He's going
Speaker 1: to be able to see it real after real after
Speaker 1: reel on tape, he's going to be able to see it.
Speaker 1: But I don't think we're really going to know Pauli
Speaker 1: until he gets the opportunity to do it. And it's
Speaker 1: just the way that it is. It's the nature of
Speaker 1: the beast right now is he's trying to rehab. He's
Speaker 1: got to get himself right, number one. But so much
Speaker 1: of getting yourself right physically is also about overcoming mentally.
Speaker 1: And it's also interesting to note that Colt McCoy is
Speaker 1: dealing with injury right now as well, and yeah, it
Speaker 1: will impact his offseason to a certain degree. So as
Speaker 1: if the Cardinals weren't already in the market for a quarterback,
Speaker 1: we'll see exactly what happens. A lot of people speculating
Speaker 1: already Jacoby Brissette Fright could be headed to the ac
Speaker 1: from Cleveland. Obviously, that direct connection to Drew Petsing, and
Speaker 1: not only that, PAULI, here's a guy, if it were
Speaker 1: to be Jacoby Brissette, that you would bring in here
Speaker 1: and say, okay, you know what, just in case, we're
Speaker 1: gonna bring him in here knowing that Kyler is going
Speaker 1: to miss probably at least a few games in the
Speaker 1: beginning of the season, and Colt McCoy should be okay
Speaker 1: for that, but still you're going to bring somebody in
Speaker 1: with experience. And the Cleveland Browned offense once again, is
Speaker 1: a blending of the old the new one. Jacobe Pursat
Speaker 1: could really help the other quarterbacks in that room absorbed
Speaker 1: this offense, Paul, especially if he knows the language right. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Drew Petsy is going to use
Speaker 1: the Kevin Stefanski system, you know, verbatim, but that could
Speaker 1: be a real asset in that room if that guy knows.
Speaker 1: You know, for example, a Drew Stanton was brought in
Speaker 1: with Bruce arians way back in the day, why because
Speaker 1: he knew be a system and he actually taught it
Speaker 1: to Carson Palmer. So it's a great example, Paul. Hey,
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