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Speaker 1: fact that Jonathan Gannon is a defensive minded head coach. Now,

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's a problem with with having that, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, badest things. It's important to be able to

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Speaker 1: have somebody that can communicate UM effectively, what the expectations

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Speaker 1: are offensively, because you know, often when you have a

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Speaker 1: defensive coach, they they spend you know, the lion's share

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Speaker 1: of their time with the defense, and when you hired

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Speaker 1: offensive staff, usually they spend the lion's share of their

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Speaker 1: time focus on the offense. And I think that, you know,

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Speaker 1: to to really develop, you know, a young team like

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals are, um, you know, you have to be

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Speaker 1: all hands on, and you know, I just hope that

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Speaker 1: he really, you know, can surround Kyler with the things

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Speaker 1: he needs, you know, so he can so he can

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Speaker 1: be effective. Do you remember Ba's first training camp. Early

439
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Speaker 1: in camp, he yelled at you in front of everyone.

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Speaker 1: When you look back at that, do you think that

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Speaker 1: was by design that he said, you know what, if

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Speaker 1: I'm holding the superstar layer for his should accountable, then

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Speaker 1: everyone's gonna have to fall in line. Yeah. I had

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Speaker 1: no problem being coached like whatsoever. Like in you know,

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Speaker 1: I think the best I ever was is when I

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Speaker 1: had guys who were really really hard on me. I

447
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Speaker 1: mean Todd Haley. I mean he was, he was, He

448
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Speaker 1: was miserable to be around. Mostly he was the bad

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Speaker 1: cause I'm not saying that as in a negative way.

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Speaker 1: But he knew what I needed to take me to

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Speaker 1: the level that I was trying to go to. And

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Speaker 1: often players don't know what you need. Um. You know,

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Speaker 1: when you're really good and you've had success in every

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Speaker 1: single level, you don't always have an understanding of what

455
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Speaker 1: you really need to take yourself to that to that

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Speaker 1: next level. Right. Um. And you know Todd was able

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Speaker 1: to extract, you know, every ounce of that out of me,

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Speaker 1: and it was by any means necessary. I didn't necessarily

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Speaker 1: like the way he did it, but he brought the

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Speaker 1: best out of me. And like, you know, you need

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Speaker 1: to find that out from your players, like what can

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Speaker 1: they take? What can they tolerate? Before you know, they

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Speaker 1: become despondent and unwilling to learn and participate any longer. Right,

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Speaker 1: And everybody has a different leash, right, Um, you know

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Speaker 1: I could. It didn't matter what you said to me,

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Speaker 1: as long as it wasn't like a personal thing. You know,

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Speaker 1: you said, I was playing like crap and I need

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Speaker 1: to be better, like I had no problem with that,

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Speaker 1: And I had no problem with it being done loud,

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Speaker 1: because if because everybody can see the tape, if I'm

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Speaker 1: not making the plays that you expect me to make,

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Speaker 1: that's not like you're telling me something that everybody else

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Speaker 1: in his locker room, everybody else in the world can't see.

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Speaker 1: You're not getting open and you're not making the play.

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Speaker 1: It's not it's just not personal. This is just business, right, UM.

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Speaker 1: And I think you know, guys need to be you know,

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Speaker 1: held accountable. You need to be talked to, UM and

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Speaker 1: held to a high standard. You know, Larry, you were

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Speaker 1: involved obviously in the Super Bowl host committee. UM, what

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Speaker 1: did you do and did you enjoy that? I love

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Speaker 1: UM And I think Michael Bill will for you know,

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Speaker 1: connecting me and getting getting me involved in it. You know,

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Speaker 1: I remember the call, you know, a year and a

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Speaker 1: half ago when he called me and asked me, Um,

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Speaker 1: you know that the host committee was considering offering me

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Speaker 1: a position, and I kind of asked him what it

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Speaker 1: what it would entail. He gave me a you know,

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Speaker 1: a lengthy explanation of what exactly will happen and how

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Speaker 1: how it will go, and it went exactly the way

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Speaker 1: he explained it to me, I was really really privileged

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Speaker 1: to be a part of it. You know. I told

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Speaker 1: a story and an introduction press conference, you know, when

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl kicked off on Monday, about how when

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Speaker 1: you're a player playing any game, you have no idea

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Speaker 1: about how any of these things are happening. You get

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Speaker 1: off the plane and the buses are they're waiting for you.

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Speaker 1: You're not telling the bus where to go. They know

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Speaker 1: exactly where to go and drop you off at a

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Speaker 1: designated location. The room keys, they're sitting there waiting for you.

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Speaker 1: When you get off the bus, you go up to

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Speaker 1: your room, the bags are waiting. They come up in

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Speaker 1: a few a few minutes after that, Like you really

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Speaker 1: don't have to think about any of those things. But

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Speaker 1: now being a part of such big how the Sasage

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Speaker 1: was made, Like there's a lot of planning and meticulous

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Speaker 1: detail that goes into that, you know, in terms of

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Speaker 1: the money that's raised to go to all these wonderful

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Speaker 1: causes and charities around in the city. You know, to

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Speaker 1: make sure that the financial impact is not just the

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Speaker 1: one weak financial impact, that it has a trickle down

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Speaker 1: effect to a lot of the wonderful things that you're

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Speaker 1: joining those communities and the planning that goes behind that.

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Speaker 1: And so it was great to be able to see that,

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Speaker 1: to be able to meet some some prominent business associates

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Speaker 1: and see how you know government, you know from every

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Speaker 1: level to corporate America, I can work together to create

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Speaker 1: such a magnificent event. Last question for Larry Fitzgerald. He

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Speaker 1: might be busier now than he was as a player.

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Speaker 1: Part of it is you're a part owner and a

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Speaker 1: pickle ball team. Well, what intrigues you about pickle ball

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Speaker 1: and what sort of future do you see for the sport? Well,

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Speaker 1: I see, I see a really big future for it.

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Speaker 1: It's the fastest growing sport in the game. It's one

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Speaker 1: of the few games that I've ever seen and played

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Speaker 1: that you can in ten minutes, you know, four people

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Speaker 1: start playing they've never played it before. You explained the rules,

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Speaker 1: the dudes and the don'ts, and in ten minutes those

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Speaker 1: four players could be having a great time. If I

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Speaker 1: told you I handed you a golf club, I said,

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Speaker 1: I want you to be able to hit this golf

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Speaker 1: club straight, and I want you to be able to

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Speaker 1: hit to draw tomorrow and a cut the next day.

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Speaker 1: It would take that person seven eight months of hitting

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Speaker 1: balls every single day. You know, if I gave you

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Speaker 1: a tennis racket and say, look, I want you to

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Speaker 1: be able to have an effective serve, it would take

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Speaker 1: you a year a practice for you to be able

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Speaker 1: to go out there and have a serve that you

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Speaker 1: can win with. You know, those games are really hard

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Speaker 1: to pick up and adopt. You know, pick a ball

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Speaker 1: is very different from that. And also, my six year

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Speaker 1: old son can play, and so and so can ninety

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Speaker 1: ninety year old grandmas. They can have fun. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's not many games where you can see that they

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Speaker 1: can span that um that larger of an age gap.

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Speaker 1: So I think it's a really really great game, wonderful

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Speaker 1: way for people to get together and and be a

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Speaker 1: part of the community. And I think there's a there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of out of where the game can continue

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Speaker 1: to grow. Know fits a from what I hear, Pitt's

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Speaker 1: pickleball team sucks, butterball is that true. I'm I'm there

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Speaker 1: that that Pity even has a pickleball team, but I'm

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Speaker 1: pretty I'm pretty sure if they do, it would be

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Speaker 1: wester Larry. We know you got stuff to do. You

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Speaker 1: gotta pick up Devin Man. We thank you seriously, thank

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Speaker 1: you for the time. Appreciate it us. I was good

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Speaker 1: to hang with you guys. And congratulations on six hundred

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Speaker 1: and I hope for another six hundred. Absolutely appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: And we're gonna blame five hundred on COVID or Wolf

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Speaker 1: one of the others. So thanks, Larry. I know, I

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Speaker 1: know is West Virginia roots. I understand a buffalo alert.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. There you go, Larry Fitzgerald, who retired without

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Speaker 1: ever using the word retirement. It's it was a masterful plan.

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. We'll be back with more

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Speaker 1: of the big Red rage right after this. The vision

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Speaker 1: of how I want to play defense and how I

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Speaker 1: want defensive players to act and the coaches to serve

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Speaker 1: the players. He had that vision. He shared that vision

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Speaker 1: with me. Very high capacity, very high character, which were

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Speaker 1: those were the two most important part of pieces for

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Speaker 1: me hiring coaches. And he has those and complete faith

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Speaker 1: in Nick to run the defense, and he will run

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Speaker 1: the defense. Jonathan Gannon confirming, Then Nick Rowlis will call

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Speaker 1: the defense. So the Cardinals new head coach will be

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Speaker 1: a CEO overseeing the defense. And the offense, but he

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Speaker 1: will not be the play caller on defense like he

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Speaker 1: was with the Eagles. In fact, you're talking about the

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Speaker 1: Eagles linebackers coach Nick Rowlis, who is now on board

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Speaker 1: at age twenty nine, the NFL's youngest coordinator in the league.

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Speaker 1: It is the Big Red Rage presented by satan Ford

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Speaker 1: and Gilbert. We are Satan Ford, Paul kelbc, Ron Wolfley's

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Speaker 1: special thanks to Larry Fitzgerald, the Legend for joining us

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Speaker 1: in the last segment and hitting all things Arizona Cardinals

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Speaker 1: and look, it's a young staff. Wolf I don't know,

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Speaker 1: you know to what degree you view that as a

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Speaker 1: concern at all. It was brought up during the press

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Speaker 1: conference and it was a question posed right to Nick

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Speaker 1: Rowlis and his answer was exactly what Jonathan Gannon has

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Speaker 1: told him over the years, and they almost recited it

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Speaker 1: together and wrote fashion when they said, and I'm quoting,

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Speaker 1: experience is not synonymous with knowledge. In other words, capability,

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Speaker 1: not birth certificate. Just can you do the job? And

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Speaker 1: to what level? And Jonathan Gann it feels like he's

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Speaker 1: identified a lot of high performers. Yeah, you know what, Polly,

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Speaker 1: I love that attitude I really do, because it chose

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Speaker 1: an awful lot of confidence in yourself. And I'm not

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Speaker 1: disagreeing with anything that he implied or he said there, Polly,

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Speaker 1: but I will tell you right now, the proof is

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Speaker 1: in the pudding, so to speak. Going out and getting

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Speaker 1: it done on the field. That's the only way to

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Speaker 1: do it. And you know what I love, Paul. I

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Speaker 1: love this because the NFL, as you know, I've said

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Speaker 1: this many times, PAULI, it's a meritocracy, man. It's the

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Speaker 1: ultimate of meritocracy. It really is. You got to prove yourself.

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Speaker 1: I don't care if you're a holder on extra point

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Speaker 1: field goal ball. You've got to prove yourself that you

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Speaker 1: can actually catch that ball, put that ball down, and

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Speaker 1: hold that thing perfectly for the kicker so he can

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Speaker 1: kick the ball through. I don't care what position you're playing.

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Speaker 1: I don't care if you're a coach, a player, a trainer,

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Speaker 1: I don't care what it is. If you don't know

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Speaker 1: what you're doing, you will be exposed. You will if

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Speaker 1: you do, you will be glorified. There's no doubt about that.

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Speaker 1: And it's a prove it league, Paul, through and through.

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Speaker 1: And what I love about this is. Nick Rawllis knows

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Speaker 1: that better than anybody else. JG knows it better than

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Speaker 1: anybody else. Drew Petzing knows it better than anybody else.

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Speaker 1: It is a meritocracy that wouldn't have it any other way.

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Speaker 1: Let me prove to you what it is that I

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Speaker 1: know well. Nick Rowlis had interests from the Broncos before

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Speaker 1: he took the Cardinals job. In fact, you might have

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Speaker 1: seen the Broncos today made it official advance. Joseph is

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Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator to the former head coach of Denver

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Speaker 1: and former Cardinals defensive coordinator. Obviously, Philly had interest in

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Speaker 1: retaining Nick Rowlis after Jonathan Gannon came to the Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: But there he is. He's on the Cardinals staff. He's

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Speaker 1: running the defense. And he was asked about keys defining

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Speaker 1: success as a DC being adaptable and more specifically, be

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Speaker 1: adaptable to the players that you have right, being able

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Speaker 1: to utilize our guys skill sets that puts them in

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Speaker 1: the best position to win games. Ultimately, what do we

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Speaker 1: have to do on a week tweek basis to beat

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Speaker 1: the opponent? And there's a whole other component of it's

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Speaker 1: as far as serving the players right and that's everybody

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Speaker 1: in the organization doing what their job is in order

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Speaker 1: to truly maximize the players ability and potential. Your reaction

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00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: to that, Wolf and Paul, I'm loving this when I'm

638
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: hearing from Jonathan Gannon, of course, and from Nick Rawlis.

639
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: I love this approach right here. They're not being ideologues, Paul.

640
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: They're not being dogmatic. They're not saying there's only one

641
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: way to skin a cat. There is not just one

642
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: way to skin a cat metaphorically speaking, of course, there

643
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: are many ways you can actually do this. I love

644
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: the fact that they're not saying there is only one

645
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: way to do it, and I happen to know how

646
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: to do it. They're using the adaptable word, Paul. We're

647
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: going to be adaptable offensively and defensively, and in transition,

648
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: we are going to adapt. I love that approach. And

649
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: you know what, there's a reason, I think and you're

650
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: onto it. There's a reason. That was the first word

651
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: he listed in his opening press conference, Jonathan Gannon, when

652
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: he was asked about the four pillars of his coaching philosophy,

653
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: he said adaptable, violent, explosive, and smart in that order,

654
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: and he went on to elaborate later that if you

655
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: are of the mindset that there's one way and it's

656
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: your way or the highway, you're d o way. You're

657
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: dead in the water because you are predictable and you

658
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: better be able to evolve. And let's face it, especially

659
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one wolf after the seven and oh

660
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: ten and two start, how many times in December and

661
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,959
Speaker 1: January did we say about the Arizona Cardinals they needed

662
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: to adjust to the adjustment A season is a constant evolution,

663
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: and I think we can look at that and cite

664
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: that as one of the culprits of the fact that

665
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: Cardinals have lost eighteen to the last twenty three and

666
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: why there was a house cleaning after this campaign. Yeah, no,

667
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: you're right on that, Paula. You really are. One of

668
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Speaker 1: the other things I want to say quickly about the

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00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 1: Nick Rowllis presser. In one answer, Paul, he used the

670
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: V word violence three times in one answer. He reference

671
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 1: that in Paula, you know, we all know we're talking

672
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 1: about the white lines, the paradigm of the football field

673
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: and being out on a football field and dog gone

674
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 1: at Paul. One of the great things about the game

675
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 1: of football is you can actually be violent in between

676
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: those white lines. And then Paul, you walk outside those

677
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: white lines, you love people, respect him, and treat him

678
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: better than yourself. It doesn't get any better. It's a

679
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 1: grown man, I'm telling you. And they're using that word,

680
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: and not only Jag using that word, but Nick rawleis

681
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 1: his defensive coordinator, is twenty nine years old. He's using

682
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: that word. Why because they're gonna demand you play that way, Paul.

683
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: That's something Rallis even pointed out. He said, we're going

684
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: to demand that they play violently out on the field,

685
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 1: with a lot of explosiveness. I'm paraphrasing him, but that's

686
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 1: what he said, Paul, And that, to me, that's how

687
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: you play the game of football. I'm sorry, let's playoff

688
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: football personified. The most physical team typically wins. It's the

689
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: NFC West against the Aaron Donalds and Nick Mosas and

690
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: now you got to try and tackle a Kenneth Walker

691
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,280
Speaker 1: in Seattle. So it's all that, and it's all wrapped

692
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: in this energy that is palpable when you're around this

693
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: coaching staff. In fact, the new DC Nick Rowlis was

694
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 1: asked just about the energy that comes with Jonathan Gannon

695
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: and company. Being energetic is not the same things as

696
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: being emotional. You know, one thing that I always strive

697
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 1: to be and that I expect from my staff defensively

698
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: is to be highly emotionally intelligent and to be the

699
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: same person every single day. And I kind of refer

700
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 1: to it often as emotional intelligence of ultimately being in

701
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: a state of mind where you are optimal to solve problems.

702
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,280
Speaker 1: And that is not the same thing as being energetic.

703
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: I think you have to have both. Wolf. Here's a

704
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: little anecdote for you. In the one week the Jonathan

705
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: Gannon has been head coach, just walking around the Dignity

706
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: Health Training Center of the Cardinals headquarters. You can hear him.

707
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: You can hear him from the other side of the building.

708
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: You can hear the enthusiasm. When you came into the

709
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: press conference yesterday to introduced Rowlis. We had our backs

710
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: to the door and all of a sudden, all you

711
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: hear Wolf. It's like, guys, okay, all right, let's go

712
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 1: here we are and everyone turns around the media and

713
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: there's the head coach and he's talking about how the

714
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: meetings are gonna be very interactive, that he doesn't want

715
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: guys regurgitating. He's gonna be calling on guys and he

716
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: wants input in feedback, and so it's you know, when

717
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: he says buckle up, he means it, and I think

718
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: you'll get a sense of that Tonight on Cardinal's Flight Plan,

719
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: You're gonna be on that plane flight from Philadelphia to

720
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 1: the az with Jonathan Gannon and his family. You're gonna

721
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: be with Michael Bidwell. A Day in the Life at

722
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: debuts tonight at seven, the Emmy Award winning series. Catch

723
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: it live on the Cardinals YouTube channel that's YouTube dot com,

724
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 1: slash as Cardinals, or on demand thereafter. As Cardinal's Flight

725
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: Plan debuts, We'll talk offense with a brand new offensive

726
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: coordinator next on The Big Red Rage, presented by Santan

727
00:37:51,480 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: Ford and Gilbert. I structured everybody that interviewed around Kyler.

728
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 1: The questions I was asking about philosophically, how we're going

729
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: to play on offense. What I think is really hard

730
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: for defenses moving forward into twenty twenty three and beyond,

731
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 1: a lot of those had to do with Kyler. In

732
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: my opinion, that's the number one of the number one

733
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: jobs of the offensive coordinator is to maximize the skill

734
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: set of the quarterback and the other positions as well,

735
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 1: but we know that's the position that makes it go.

736
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: So that was very centric around all the interviews, and

737
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 1: I liked his answer. That is Jonathan again and hours

738
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 1: ago during the introductory press conference their new offensive coordinator,

739
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: Drew Petsn just done Kyler Murray being the focal point

740
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 1: of those offensive coordinator interviews and that's usually where it

741
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: began and ended. And well, it's a good example as

742
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: this show is so what you like to talk about

743
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 1: blending the new and the old, right, the traditional and

744
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: the innovative, because here on this episode of The Big

745
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: Red Rage, it is show number six hundred, thinking about

746
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,439
Speaker 1: that right, going back more than two decades, and we're

747
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: introducing a brand new coaching staff and hearing for the

748
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: first time from the new coordinators. So in that way,

749
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: we're sort of blending the new and the old here

750
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: on The Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert.

751
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: Where earlier we heard from Larry Fitzgerald, Larry Legend himself

752
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: and now look Larry played with Kyler. We heard some

753
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 1: of the comments about Kyler, and I think everyone agrees

754
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,959
Speaker 1: there's still a lot of upside, wouldn't you say, Wolf

755
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: that needs to be unlocked with Kyler Murray. Yeah, oh,

756
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: no doubt about that, Pauli. And again I've been saying

757
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,760
Speaker 1: this and I'll continue to say it. I think Kyler

758
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 1: Murray needs to fall in love with the game of

759
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: football all over again. He's got to learn the old,

760
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 1: if you will. He's got to learn how to play

761
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: from under center, learn that package of plays that the

762
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals I think are going to have him run

763
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: and master those plays, and if in fact he does,

764
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: that allows himself to fall in love with the game

765
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 1: all over again, not just what he's already experienced, not

766
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 1: what he knows just now with a new offense, the

767
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: New Age offense, but also blending it with some of

768
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: the old elements that to me gets me all fired up.

769
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: And one of the one of the things that fires

770
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,879
Speaker 1: me up about Drew Pets and Polly just gotta say

771
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: this right now. Hired as the new offensive coordinator at

772
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: the age of thirty five, the Cleveland Browns quarterback coach.

773
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: I love the fact that he's coming from an offense

774
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 1: that I think blends the old and the new better

775
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: or as well is anybody that is out there. When

776
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: you look at Nick Chubb and how they use Nick

777
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: Chubb where they would put their quarterback under center, and

778
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: they would use Nick Chubb attacking the line of scrimmage

779
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: and then the bootlegs and the waggles that come off

780
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: of that, and the play action that comes off of

781
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: that as well. Paul, they were in two back in Cleveland. Now,

782
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: that's not going to happen here, okay, but they were

783
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: in two back in Cleveland twenty two percent of the time.

784
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: And rundown situation, they're typically an eleven personnel team. Fifty

785
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: percent of the time, they were in eleven personnel. But

786
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 1: this is a team, the Cleveland Browns, that blended the

787
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 1: old and the new. And I'm really jacked up because

788
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: I'm hoping Drew Petsing is definitely going to bring that here. No,

789
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 1: it's a great point. You're absolutely right. In fact, he

790
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: was asked about Kyler Murray just whether he can still

791
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 1: be expected to be a running quarterback, and Drew Petzing

792
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: said yes, that that will continue to be a big

793
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: part of Kyler's game and E quote doesn't expect that

794
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: to change. So I have to be Paulie, I think

795
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 1: there's absolutely going to be those aspects of that Brown

796
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 1: And by the way, the Browns, by the way, we're

797
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 1: without Deshaun Watson for two thirds of last season, which

798
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: might be real similar to where the Cardinals are. We'll

799
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 1: see on the timetable for Kyler Murray. But he's been

800
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: there and done that, missing his franchise quarterback and having

801
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 1: to figure something else out. And you know, because Kyler's rehabbing.

802
00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: In fact, Drew Pets and the new OC was asked

803
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: about how Kyler can just learn the offense while he's

804
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 1: in rehab, A lot of that's going to come from

805
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: the meeting rooms. Certainly, you know, expect him to still

806
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: be involved in the meetings that walk throughs. I know,

807
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: it's something you know, we'll meet with him and he's

808
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: you know, he puts in time to make sure that

809
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: he's ready to go. So a lot of it may

810
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 1: be more oriented to the classroom, whether it's quizzes or

811
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: watching tape or asking questions, what do you think, well,

812
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: the learning curve and yeah, what kind of challenge is

813
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: that going to be when he's going to be limited

814
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: obviously physically, Yeah, you know, and I don't know, Paul

815
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 1: I don't know what to say on that, because you

816
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: do want to get out there and you do want

817
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 1: to wrap it. You want to know what that bootleg

818
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: is like and what that what that seventh step drop

819
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: is gonna be like. Um, I don't know. He's going

820
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: to be able to see it real after real after

821
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: reel on tape, he's going to be able to see it.

822
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: But I don't think we're really going to know Pauli

823
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: until he gets the opportunity to do it. And it's

824
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: just the way that it is. It's the nature of

825
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: the beast right now is he's trying to rehab. He's

826
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: got to get himself right, number one. But so much

827
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: of getting yourself right physically is also about overcoming mentally.

828
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: And it's also interesting to note that Colt McCoy is

829
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 1: dealing with injury right now as well, and yeah, it

830
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 1: will impact his offseason to a certain degree. So as

831
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: if the Cardinals weren't already in the market for a quarterback,

832
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: we'll see exactly what happens. A lot of people speculating

833
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 1: already Jacoby Brissette Fright could be headed to the ac

834
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 1: from Cleveland. Obviously, that direct connection to Drew Petsing, and

835
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: not only that, PAULI, here's a guy, if it were

836
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: to be Jacoby Brissette, that you would bring in here

837
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 1: and say, okay, you know what, just in case, we're

838
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 1: gonna bring him in here knowing that Kyler is going

839
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: to miss probably at least a few games in the

840
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: beginning of the season, and Colt McCoy should be okay

841
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: for that, but still you're going to bring somebody in

842
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 1: with experience. And the Cleveland Browned offense once again, is

843
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: a blending of the old the new one. Jacobe Pursat

844
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 1: could really help the other quarterbacks in that room absorbed

845
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: this offense, Paul, especially if he knows the language right. Yeah.

846
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if Drew Petsy is going to use

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