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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Hammer Territory Podcast. My name is Sean Coleman. Hope,

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Speaker 1: wherever you are and wherever you are listening, you are

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Speaker 1: having a great start to your weekend, a great end

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Speaker 1: to your Friday night, a great start to your Saturday.

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Speaker 1: And I can tell you this in terms of results

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Speaker 1: on the field, it's a pretty positive time to be

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Speaker 1: a bravesman. Two straight wins, and it's two wins in

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Speaker 1: which our offense, you know, I had a bit of life,

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Speaker 1: had a bit of success. Will break that down from

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Speaker 1: a seven to three victory over the Tampa Bay Rays

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Speaker 1: to get a win in the series opener, plus the

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Speaker 1: latest when it comes to the fact that when the

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Speaker 1: Braves get any type a positive momentum, it seems like

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Speaker 1: that they've also got to couple it with some type

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Speaker 1: of negative development. Of course, this time around it was

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Speaker 1: Michael Harris the second leaving the game early with a

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Speaker 1: hamstring injury. We'll cover all that in this abbreviated version

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Speaker 1: of the Hammer Territory Podcast, part of the Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: family of podcasts. My name is Sean Coleman. You can

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Speaker 1: find me at Stat's sec on Twitter. Five Flying Solo

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Speaker 1: Tonight It was great to be back with Stephen Tolbert

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Speaker 1: last night. Make sure you check out all the podcasts

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Speaker 1: that we've done this week. Both Brad Rowland and Scott

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Speaker 1: Coleman will be back on Sunday. But hey, there's some

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Speaker 1: fun things to talk about. As we started off this

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Speaker 1: the scene a bit. This is something that me and

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Speaker 1: Stephen talked about. You know, we talked about the fact

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Speaker 1: that you know, Thursday was such a needed win for

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Speaker 1: this Braves team and the way that they went about

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Speaker 1: doing it was needed as well. Getting some runs early.

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Speaker 1: That was the big thing for the Braves. That was

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Speaker 1: what was such a defining characteristic of all the Braves

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Speaker 1: to access in twenty twenty three, offensively, was the fact

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Speaker 1: they were so good at getting the lead early. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's what they did on Thursday, and they were able

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Speaker 1: the Orioles. Well that's exactly what they did once again,

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Speaker 1: and in an even better fashion on Friday evening. You know,

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Speaker 1: Chris Sale was on the mound the Brave you could

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, even though Ronaldo Lopez has had

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Speaker 1: would think that Chris Sale probably has been the braves

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Speaker 1: comfortable with Chris Sale on the mound for the Braves

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Speaker 1: against again a Ray's team that was struggling offensively. Me

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Speaker 1: and Stephen talked about a big factor coming into this

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Speaker 1: series against the Rays was the fact that but the

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Speaker 1: Braves and the Rays had so many of their players

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Speaker 1: who were struggling through the first two months of the

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Speaker 1: season offensively well, the Rays actually got off to a

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Speaker 1: better than expected to start against Chris Sale. He only

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Speaker 1: allowed one run in the first inning off on an

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Speaker 1: Ahmed Rosario double, but it looked like that the Raids

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Speaker 1: keep it to only one run. And then that's when

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Speaker 1: the Braves bats came to life, a five run first

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Speaker 1: to a five to one lead. Of course, the big

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Speaker 1: hit Marcelo Zuna for the second straight day. Again, I

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Speaker 1: I don't feel it's far fetched to say Marcelo Zuna

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Speaker 1: the MVP conversation so far in the National League, my

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Speaker 1: Marcelo Zuna for the second straight day, connecting with the

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Speaker 1: big hit a three run homer. Nineteen homers sixty RBIs

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Speaker 1: for him through sixty seven games so far this season.

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Speaker 1: He has just been an absolutely magnificent force in the

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Speaker 1: and then of course Matt Olsen giving an extra base hit,

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Speaker 1: but perhaps the biggest development of all. Talked about it

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Speaker 1: again yesterday with Steven the biggest development of all a

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Speaker 1: and then after the fifth run scored on the drab

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Speaker 1: Austin Riley is making hard contact at similar levels this

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Speaker 1: the seven to three victory. And that's where you know

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Speaker 1: it starts and stops with this Brave Braves team. I've

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Speaker 1: be in the conversation about a championship pursuit this season,

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Speaker 1: it's Austin Riley getting back to being Austin Riley last

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Speaker 1: year when we were so historic, the biggest reason why

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Speaker 1: we had three top ten MVP candidates Akunya, Olson and Riley.

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Speaker 1: This year it's Ozuna, who's been the constant MVP candidate.

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Speaker 1: We know Riley and Olsen can perform at that level

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Speaker 1: and that's exactly what we saw tonight. The big bats Riley,

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Speaker 1: and the big hope for the Braves is is that

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Speaker 1: this Braves team, with their pitching, can get back to

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Speaker 1: winning and winning three. Of course, Chris Sale seven innings

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Speaker 1: Of course, as mentioned, the offense getting going was a

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