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Speaker 1: This is up on Game Nights camera hatch.

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Speaker 2: You start to show we are backing.

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Speaker 1: You want thatfl experience, then this is the show for you.

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Speaker 1: It's our time with LeVar Ary ten.

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Speaker 2: Has this team been exposed?

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Speaker 1: TJ Hushman, Zanna, let the players aside the game and

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Speaker 1: Plexico Burress.

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Speaker 2: All I gotta say is this don't pump the bear man.

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Speaker 1: It's a show with three of the best to ever

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Speaker 1: do it on and off the field, and no lie

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Speaker 1: from the Fox Sports radio studios. Here's Pro Bowlers, LaVar

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Speaker 1: Ary Tent, TJ. Hushman, Zanna, and super Bowl Chippy and

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Speaker 1: Plexico Burrets.

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Speaker 3: All right, all right, Happy Saturday to everybody out there.

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Speaker 3: Welcome into the show. Yes, this is up on Game

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Speaker 3: It's Panteen Man himself and Stretch Armstrong. You may know

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Speaker 3: them and it's either superhero names or you just made

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Speaker 3: no them by.

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Speaker 2: TJ and the Flats. Yeah, I'm LeVar Arrington.

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Speaker 3: I'm just the commentator, the hype man, the gast up

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Speaker 3: man for the superheroes. Let's have a great show today, guys.

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Speaker 3: You know a lot to get to. Unfortunately, one of

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Speaker 3: the opening topics that we will discuss it involves me

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Speaker 3: a little bit. And by the way, I'm broadcasting live

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Speaker 3: from Spike Stadium in State College, so if you hear

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Speaker 3: a lot of noise, it's because, well, I'm in a

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Speaker 3: football pregame environment that I'm in right now. So thanks

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Speaker 3: to Spike Stadium for lett me heir from here as well.

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Speaker 2: But fellas, how.

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Speaker 3: Are y'all doing? I mean, the weather looks really nice.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking over a baseball diamond. I can see the

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Speaker 3: football programs going on on the jumbo tron, so it's

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Speaker 3: kind of a cool little deal.

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Speaker 2: What y'all got going on? Man?

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Speaker 4: Well, LeVar A, you not out here, clear skies, palm trees.

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Speaker 4: A great day, man, last night was great man. You know,

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Speaker 4: I'm coaching at Santa Margarita. We beat Modern Day for

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Speaker 4: the first time. Nice fifteen years. Congrats, congrats, yeah yeah yeah,

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Speaker 4: you feeling good?

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah? Man, weekend it's gotten onto. Okay, let's start here.

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Speaker 5: Okay, all right, man, you know me man three point

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Speaker 5: thirty oh not then will be getting it on the

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Speaker 5: versus NC State in South Bend. So I chose to

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Speaker 5: sneak in the back door late last night. Okay, you know, quietly,

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Speaker 5: I will make my entrance after this show and walk

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Speaker 5: across the street and enjoy a nice football game.

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Speaker 4: What a beautiful in south. But this is real football

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Speaker 4: weather right here? You hanging out O what's real? What's

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Speaker 4: real football weather? What's the world?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 5: It's probably about sixty seven sixty eight degrees not a

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Speaker 5: cloud in the sky.

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Speaker 2: That is real football weather.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, won nice nice fall Saturday afternoons.

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Speaker 3: Cut you on overheat, right, you don't You don't want

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Speaker 3: to be too warm, so you over you don't want

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Speaker 3: the cold versus just being.

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Speaker 2: Loose to play.

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Speaker 4: That is so yes for player, that's perfect for us

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Speaker 4: sitting in the stands watching that game and make it

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Speaker 4: a little chillian in But.

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Speaker 2: For they all, nothing like it. Hey, let me.

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Speaker 3: Ask you all a question, man, because it opens up

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Speaker 3: an interesting kind of conversation. I was somebody was asking

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Speaker 3: after you know, Bratt b Jake's podcast where Buddy was

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Speaker 3: saying that you know what he was saying. Somebody asked

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Speaker 3: me about, like, how would you have done in today's NFL?

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Speaker 2: Bro?

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Speaker 3: Have you got to a point now where you can't

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Speaker 3: understand how you were able to play football because I'm

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Speaker 3: there now. Like when I was asking a question, I

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Speaker 3: can't even can y'all still recall what it feels like

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Speaker 4: I mean for me, yeah, And I'm different than y'all two,

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Speaker 4: for me it's completely news tackle. I didn't really start

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Speaker 2: You saw every game, LeVar.

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Speaker 4: We only saw when we get the ball a lot

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Speaker 4: and we take a lot of big hits. But I

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Speaker 4: do it all over again me because I started, like,

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Speaker 4: I still love football and I don't care if I'm

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Speaker 4: how did I do this? Why did I do this?

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Speaker 4: And I'm assuming it's because I wasn't forced to do

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Speaker 5: Yeah, man, I don't really think I like to I

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Speaker 5: don't really think I say to myself that, you know,

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Speaker 5: a different, you know way. I said, Man, we used

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Speaker 5: to just run into each other fast as we possibly could.

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Speaker 5: And I couldn't even imagine my body hitting the ground

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Speaker 3: You dig what I'm saying, right, You remember stirring them up?

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Speaker 3: I can't raised the shoulder. I can't remember how to

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Speaker 3: like four days, Like I'm not moving for four days,

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Speaker 3: Like you stub a toe, yea, go straight to it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm talking about like real football twenty five years ago.

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Speaker 2: Yeah man, yeah, man, that's interesting. Man.

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Speaker 4: That's when somebody got the ball plex and we're trying

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Speaker 4: to crack back levard. You see us at the last

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Speaker 4: to with that still got to you gotta keep rolling.

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Speaker 3: I never had the opportunity to catch up with with

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Speaker 3: an amazing I really wanted to bless plex you.

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Speaker 2: You were crazy when I was crazy. You were psycho. Bro.

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Speaker 2: I was really good. I was out there.

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Speaker 3: I was like playing I was playing like like Bro.

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Speaker 3: I was playing on a different planet, Bro. Like I

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Speaker 2: Bro like that. You played a psycho brand of football,

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Speaker 2: and now I feel a brand of almost.

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Speaker 3: Now my body feels like why was you a psycho?

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Speaker 2: But it's interesting, you know, we we were talking about football.

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Speaker 3: You know, being rated high is an interesting thing. You know,

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Speaker 3: we've seen Penn State and we've seen Texas fall out

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Speaker 3: of the top twenty five after being rated very high

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Speaker 3: to start the season. It begs the question fellas, should

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Speaker 3: there be a ratings coming into you know, the season,

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Speaker 3: wait and see who's who, what's what, what type of

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Speaker 3: the you know, the College Playoff Committee or whatever it

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Speaker 3: may be. But come up with with a ranking after

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Speaker 3: they start playing. What do you guys say, Oh, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I believe it should be a rating.

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Speaker 4: And for the most part, let's be honest, the majority

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Speaker 4: but they normally stay there. In the instance of Texas

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Speaker 4: and Penn State, Texas first year starting quarterback, they lost

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Speaker 4: them and keep it rolling. That didn't happen. Penn State

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Speaker 4: don't earn a hand. You got a quarterback that's coming

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Speaker 4: back that's been starting for years. You lose Tyler Warren,

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Speaker 4: but your offensive line is pretty good, you have better receivers.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna use them. Oh they say they gonna use them,

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Speaker 4: but they really don't want to use them. And so

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Speaker 4: for me, Penn State is more they're beating themselves because

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Speaker 4: they have weapons and they don't use them until it's like.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, we gotta score. Okay, let's start throwing.

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Speaker 4: You're like, oh, they can really throw the ball, But

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Speaker 4: is out of hand, and it's like, what are you

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Speaker 4: lose instead of playing to win. That's what I get

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Speaker 4: because when you're being chased, you gotta be ready to

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Speaker 4: you're playing a team and you're a good team, you

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Speaker 4: really want to beat them. And so because they're ranked

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Speaker 4: so high, So me personally, I love it. It's just

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Speaker 4: certain teams can handle it and others can't. But specifically

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Speaker 4: those two teams, I don't understand what Penn State is doing. Like,

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Speaker 4: you got a quarterback that started a ton of games, Man,

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Speaker 4: let this boy air it out.

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Speaker 2: He can do it. That hour are aired out.

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Speaker 4: Y'all treating him like he's a true freshman and not

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Speaker 5: Man, I'm looking at this whole You know, that ranking system.

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Speaker 5: I don't have a problem with the ranking system. But

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Speaker 5: you have to ask the questions, what are these teams

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Speaker 5: being ranked off of going into an entirely new season.

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Speaker 5: Last year, everybody pretty much crowned Archie man and as

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Speaker 5: the Heisman Trophy winner. He was supposed to be the

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Speaker 5: next great red freshman, true freshman quarterback red shirt at Texas,

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Speaker 5: and they come in with a number two ranking with

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Speaker 5: an unproven quarterback. That's the part that I don't understand

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Speaker 5: about it, because last year's team is not this year's team.

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Speaker 2: So that kind of hurt them, I think.

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Speaker 5: From their point of view, not even knowing how good

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Speaker 5: he has the quarterbacking pedigree. So Texas is automatically ranked

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Speaker 5: number two based off of what everybody think he's going

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Speaker 5: to be. But looking at the whole Penn State situation

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Speaker 5: when the rankers came out, I believe that I did

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Speaker 5: say that a lot of people are saying that Penn

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Speaker 5: State is ranked higher than they supposed to be, And

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Speaker 5: I said, for this reason, you don't lose a Tyler One,

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Speaker 5: you don't lose an ad Dude Carty, don't lose a

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Speaker 5: Jalen Red and expect for your team to be the

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Speaker 5: last year's defense. It doesn't happen that way. And we're

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Speaker 5: getting back to the same situation. And when I'm sitting

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Speaker 5: here watching the Penn State game with you guys, we're

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Speaker 5: going back and forth, like, Yo, why is there al

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Speaker 5: are not throwing the ball to the wide receivers. It's

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Speaker 5: like they want to throw the ball to the tight

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Speaker 5: end and run the football. Listen, you have to have

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Speaker 5: be able to have a stout defense if you want

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Speaker 5: to play a time control football game. Right down, the

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Speaker 5: putting Penn State and bad situations, bad down and distance,

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Speaker 5: and now they are getting out a character from what

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Speaker 5: Just like TJ said, Allan is winning what it's fourth

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Speaker 3: in theory, you're the you're the team that's xed out

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Speaker 3: But for TV and for entertainment purposes, and you know,

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Speaker 3: How do I measure what game I want to watch?

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Speaker 3: I think rankings play play a major role in the

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Speaker 2: Maybe we're gonna try to get there. You know, the

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Speaker 3: But fellas, I wanted to touch on this Jonathan Gannon story

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Speaker 3: And you know, obviously Jonathan Gannon gets fined one hundred

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Speaker 3: I gotta be honest. When I was thinking about it,

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Speaker 3: I gotta do it. Plex Hey, did you do this

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Speaker 3: when you played?

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Speaker 2: A coach?

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Speaker 4: Would never do that to me? Why you say that

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Speaker 4: I'm knocking him out on the sideline. I promise in

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Speaker 4: every coach I've had, they know that. They know that

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Speaker 4: he wouldn't do that to me. He wouldn't do that

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Speaker 4: to me, dnocking the mount, I promise you, and they

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Speaker 4: She louble to be like, oh, you want to raise

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Speaker 2: Got off a man first. Y'all ain't home.

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Speaker 4: Like gain it like, but I will say this, he

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Speaker 3: And I said the same thing before I even had

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Speaker 3: if you talk to me the wrong way, like you're

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Speaker 3: Talk to me a certain type of way, it says

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would even expect it at the college level,

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Speaker 3: on I was like, hey, I'm just being honest. Like

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Speaker 2: Easily coachable dude.

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Speaker 3: But if you put your hands on me and you

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Speaker 2: How he reacted to the dude? Is one hundred grand

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Speaker 2: for what he did? Is that? Is that right? Is

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Speaker 2: that wrong? Like? Where do you y'all fall on that?

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Speaker 4: Listen for me and let's talk about it again. I

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Speaker 4: understand where Gannon is coming from. You lost a touchdown

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Speaker 4: that probably ices the game for you, cost the game.

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Speaker 4: Imari de Mercado is a backup. He's not in a

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Speaker 2: We all know that.

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Speaker 4: And that's the part I don't like, because we know

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Speaker 4: Gannon wouldn't have done it to him. Because we've been

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Speaker 4: have had to hold you back. You're not many messages

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Speaker 4: I got like that Because that I don't know why

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Speaker 4: I'm like that. I have no idea why, but I'm

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Speaker 4: just not letting anyone do that to me. And for

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Speaker 4: getting one hundred thousand dollars fine, Yeah, I don't even

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Speaker 4: know if he should have been fined.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, we got some.

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Speaker 4: LeVar Arrington on a lot of teams, and if you

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Speaker 4: do that to them, it's gonna be a scene on

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Speaker 4: know that, like, yeah, de Mercado messed up. Yeah, I

434
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 4: don't understand why these dudes keep dropping the ball before

435
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 4: they get in to the end zone. Like, do you

436
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 4: guys not watch TV? But at the end of the day, Ganny,

437
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 4: you know there's cameras everywhere. You know this, Why would

438
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 4: you embarrass this young man like that? He already embarrassed himself.

439
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 4: He embarrassed himself by dropping the ball, and now you go,

440
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 4: he gonna have to live with that the rest of

441
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 4: his Oh I'm sorry sorry, is not going to undo

442
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 4: what you've done. And that, to me is the biggest

443
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 4: problem with that, because the player would have been released

444
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 4: one hundred thousand dollars coaching, that's nothing. The player would

445
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 4: have been released livelihood it over because nobody would have

446
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 4: signed him one hundred thousand dollars five.

447
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 2: It just shows you.

448
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,679
Speaker 4: The way you are when it's a coach and a player,

449
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 4: because we know coach okay, one hundred thousand player out

450
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 4: the league.

451
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 5: M yeah, man, when I sit here, I saw the

452
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,919
Speaker 5: whole situation. Man, I've been in some dust up with

453
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 5: coaches for less than that. So when I saw the

454
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 5: whole thing happen, you know, it's automatic fireworks for me.

455
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 5: It's like the dude at the Alaballa, remember front that

456
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,199
Speaker 5: Thoses had up in there. You're like, well, I just

457
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 5: lost my job because there ain't no way no coach

458
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 5: gonna be able to come over there and put his

459
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 5: hands on me on a play. Obviously they did lose

460
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 5: the football games, but you know, I'm I'm I'm not

461
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 5: taking you know, anything like that from a coach.

462
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 2: I don't. You can ask everybody that I played with.

463
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 5: The coaches wouldn't even wouldn't even talk to me, crazy

464
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 5: like they was talking to everybody else.

465
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:03,719
Speaker 2: Be carried out.

466
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 5: Listen, somebody going there, I'm a grown man. You a

467
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 5: grown man. You gotta fast. I got a family. That's

468
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 5: my whole thing.

469
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 3: It's got to be a respect factor there, right, Like

470
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 3: I mean when when these types of things take place,

471
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 3: I mean again, sometimes nowadays, you know, and even back then,

472
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 3: I mean, you could be the same age as somebody

473
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 3: who's coaching you.

474
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. Like, so this isn't like

475
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 2: there's the idea of.

476
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 3: This authoritative figure that's thirty forty fifty years older than

477
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 3: you and you know it's an old man grabbing you

478
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 3: by your face. Man's like, I get that, But I

479
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 3: think there's also this should be said as well.

480
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 2: It's in scenarios like that, if.

481
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 3: It were to be a coach that were to be

482
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 3: able to do it, it would be because of what

483
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 3: our relationship dynamic was leading up to a moment like that.

484
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 3: If I'm not clear on what our trust level is

485
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 3: and our admiration and even love.

486
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 2: Like I've had coaches that I love.

487
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 3: Now, if you're a coach that I love, and you're

488
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 3: a coach that I trust, and you came over and

489
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 3: you chewed me out, and I knew that that was

490
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 3: your style of how you coach, and I knew that

491
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 3: that's our relationship, and now that's how that I respond,

492
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 3: That's how I'm hyped to respond to that. I get

493
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 3: that if there's a true understanding, there's a true care

494
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,199
Speaker 3: or true accountability for one another.

495
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 2: So I don't want to make it seem like.

496
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 3: This is like some hothead or, like you said, a

497
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 3: tough dude type of deal. The reality of it is

498
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 3: is that if I ever felt like we went in

499
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 3: from friend to foe, then I saw you professionally as

500
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 3: my coach. Right, if you're professionally on a professional level,

501
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 3: this is what we are to one another, and this

502
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 3: is our relationship and it doesn't go any further than that,

503
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 3: then you have to respect the fact that you have

504
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 3: to approach me as a professional and I have to

505
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 3: approach you as a professional. And I feel like that

506
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 3: makes a ton of sense when you take it outside

507
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 3: of the realm offism, because in reality, if he had

508
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 3: did that to somebody in a public space, he's getting arrested.

509
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 2: He's getting arrested. You can't just.

510
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 3: Punch somebody like, oh, you upset me with what you said.

511
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 3: Now you're gonna punch me in my stomach like like

512
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 3: or whatever it is he did, like, You're they're going

513
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 3: to take you off to jail. So it's clearly not professional.

514
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 3: It doesn't really make a ton of sense to even

515
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 3: think that it would have a place anywhere, but it

516
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 3: does have a It has happened in football, Like we

517
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 3: would be naive to sit there and say that coaches

518
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 3: don't get hyped up and do crazy silly stuff like that,

519
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 3: or the way they talk to players.

520
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 2: They talked to players pretty crazy too, So I.

521
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 3: Mean, right, I mean, I mean think about it like

522
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 3: bro talk about I mean, I'd like to believe I'm

523
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 3: not I'm not hyping it.

524
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 4: No, no, no, And it's our generation of football because

525
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 4: they came from coaches that did a lot of crazy talking.

526
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 4: And that's why I wasn't able to play much in

527
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 4: high school because I would go out to for practice

528
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 4: and the coach would just start yelling and cursing, and

529
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 4: then I yell and curse back at him, and he'd

530
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 4: be like, taking shoulder pads off and get the s

531
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 4: out of here. I'd be like, Hey, I'm waiting on

532
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 4: you after practice, right, you know here, I am fifteen

533
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 4: years old tonight.

534
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 2: Our high school.

535
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 4: Coach is a former D lineman at Nebraska, Right, so

536
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 4: what I'm gonna do with him? But you know I

537
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 4: thought I could, right, I was ready though if he

538
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 4: was ready though, yeah, yeah, I was ready. I couldn't.

539
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 4: I couldn't take somebody yelling at me and talking to

540
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 4: me that way. And so we finally talked going into

541
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 4: my senior year of high school, and he understood where

542
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 4: I was coming from and we got along. And then

543
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,239
Speaker 4: you get to the league and I never had a

544
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 4: coach yell at me really crazy because I think they

545
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 4: see how I am in practice in games with other

546
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 4: with my teammates and my opponents, that they were like, nah,

547
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 4: we not gonna try him like that. And that's what

548
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 4: when the viewers that are listening to coach knows your

549
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 4: personality because he sees you in practice, he sees you

550
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 4: in the game, and he knows like, oh this dude, Nah,

551
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 4: I can't mess with him like that. That's where the coaches.

552
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 4: I've never had a coach really yell at me like that.

553
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 4: They if I messed up and I wasn't a starter,

554
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 4: they just take me out. But they weren't gonna yell

555
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 4: at me because of that. But today's generation of coach,

556
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 4: the Sean mcvay's, the Kyle Shanahans, will like look at you,

557
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 4: but they not the younger coaches. They not really doing that. Really,

558
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 4: That's what shocked me about Gannon. And that shows me

559
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 4: that Gannon feels like his ass is on the line

560
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 4: and he may lose his job because these younger coaches

561
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 4: aren't really yelling at you the wait we got yelled at,

562
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 4: or our generation of players got yelled at when we played.

563
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 4: I just think it's a different day and age, and

564
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 4: that just shows me the pressure that Jonathan Gannon is

565
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 4: on it, that he's feeling when you do something like that.

566
00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, it's interesting, but hey, we'll see

567
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 3: how that all continues to to to play out, and

568
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 3: you know, maybe it'll work out that way.

569
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 2: All right.

570
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 4: At an incident when none of your coaches before, I know,

571
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 4: we got to go to a break. You ain't never

572
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 4: had no incident before me?

573
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 2: Yeah I had, I had a Yes, don will. We

574
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 2: don't even have to name the coach because I want

575
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 2: de Dell Lindsey. I tell you. I'll tell you because

576
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 2: I have zero respect for him.

577
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 3: And I think that that's that's like the idea of

578
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 3: it is is that when when you're dealing with somebody

579
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 3: who's fake, somebody who is toxic, you know, got a

580
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 3: filthy mouth, no no regard, no no respect to how

581
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 3: they they communicate and how they handle things and how.

582
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 2: They do things.

583
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 3: There's is obviously going to be a volatile situation that

584
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 3: has the potential to turning into a more escalated situation.

585
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 2: Right.

586
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 3: So, there was a lot out of a backstory connected

587
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 3: to what ended up leading up happening with him and I.

588
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 3: But like basically, it was a long year.

589
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 2: It was my last year in Washington.

590
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 3: A lot had happened in terms of like what I

591
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 3: had going on relationship wise with the team and with

592
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 3: the ownership. But I ended up playing later in the year.

593
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 3: As I'm playing later in the year, we get to

594
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 3: a game. I forget what game it was. It was

595
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 3: a home game, and for the last few games that

596
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 3: I had, they had put me back on the field,

597
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 3: made me a starter. We start, you know, I noticed

598
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 3: the pattern of him talking crazy to me on the phone,

599
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 3: like he they called he called out. We get on

600
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 3: the phone and I'm playing ball like I'm doing everything

601
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 3: I'm asked to do. I'm not trying anything new. I'm

602
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 3: not like living on the adge or anything, just doing

603
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 3: what I'm told to do. Because that's where I was

604
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 3: at at the point, I knew they take me out

605
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 3: if I didn't. So he called down and just be

606
00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 3: dog cussing me out like mother effort as my mother for

607
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 3: that mother F and this F and that, And I'm like, bro,

608
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 3: I'm doing what I'm supposed to do. You don't really

609
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 3: have any reason to call down here with with all

610
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 3: like with with the disrespect. So I stopped taking his calls.

611
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 3: Like two games later, I stopped taking his calls. Like

612
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 3: he called down and be like, yeah, I'm good. I

613
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 3: stopped taking his calls. So the game ends, this one

614
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,959
Speaker 3: game in particular, it was a big win for us.

615
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 3: The game ends, and I do my my regular routine.

616
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 3: I go into the locker room. I go into the

617
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 3: training room and get my tape tape taken off. That's

618
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 3: how I like decompress from the game before we go

619
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 3: out and talk to the media.

620
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 2: Da da dad, this, that and the other.

621
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 3: So I'm in there and I'm sitting on the table

622
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 3: and and my guy's cut my tape off of my ankles,

623
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 3: and he comes walking in the room and he goes,

624
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 3: if you ever efing don't take my mother Evan called

625
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 3: during the mother avn name.

626
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 2: I said you're gonna what you're gonna be. You're gonna what?

627
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 2: And I pushed, you know how?

628
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 3: You know how the dudes like cutting off your tape,

629
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 3: go on taking your tape off.

630
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 2: They're right in front of you. So I took my head.

631
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 2: I took my head, you know how?

632
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 3: You I took my head, put it on his chest,

633
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 3: and moved him to.

634
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,479
Speaker 2: The opposite side of where the coach was.

635
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 3: I sit up on the table, slide to the edge

636
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 3: of the of the sitting table, the taping table, and

637
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 3: I put my feet on the ground and I said,

638
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 3: and the next time, you're going to do what.

639
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 2: Right?

640
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 3: And he looked at me. He looked at me. He said,

641
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 3: you better take myf and call. I said, if you

642
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 3: say mother effort to me or you f for one

643
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 3: more time, I'm going to hurt you. I'm going to

644
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 3: hurt you. And then that was when everybody broke up,

645
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 3: like got involved, pulled him away, this, that and the other,

646
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 3: and that was. We never spoke again after that. I

647
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 3: think we went through the whole playoff run. When he

648
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 3: was coaching in the in the in the meeting rooms,

649
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 3: he would coach a different a different player, so he

650
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 3: would be correcting or talking about my film and talking

651
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 3: about what we need to do for my position. But

652
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 3: he would tell he was talking to somebody else like

653
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 3: you would say their name. So you know, coaches can

654
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 3: be bitches, you know what I mean, Like, let's be clear,

655
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 3: but it all depends and players can too. But it

656
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 3: just aught to me, it just all depends on what

657
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 3: the relationship is. I had a zero relationship with him.

658
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Speaker 3: I had a zero respect factor with him. He had

659
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Speaker 3: a zero relationship with me, a zero respect factor with me,

660
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Speaker 3: And I think that that was why you can't You

661
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 3: can't handle things in that type of manner because we're

662
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 3: already looking at each other as I don't mess with

663
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Speaker 3: you anyway, you know what I mean. If I love

664
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Speaker 3: the coach, I feel like the interaction, even if you

665
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 3: had a moment like that, the interaction, you know.

666
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Speaker 2: Would be received differently.

667
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 3: You know, I wouldn't feel like I needed to respond

668
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 3: that way if that was a coach I knew and

669
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Speaker 3: loved and respect it. And he came in there and

670
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 3: he said that first of all, I would be taking

671
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 3: the calls. Second of all, we would if we had

672
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Speaker 3: a situation that popped off like that, We'll still hug

673
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Speaker 3: it out and be cool later. We just you know,

674
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 3: our temperatures was up, and I can respect that. We

675
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 3: come back, we we apologize, we're good, we move on.

676
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 3: Everything is cool. But I just think that it's the

677
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Speaker 3: relationship between you know, the player and the coach that's

678
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 3: going to dictate the way that you're able to handle.

679
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Speaker 2: Things with them. You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, Yeah, trust factor. If I trust you,

681
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682
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683
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Speaker 3: I'm already disappointed. I disappointed you because we created that

684
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Speaker 3: level of accountability. But that's just how I roll. If

685
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna die for you, I'll die for you. If

686
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Speaker 3: I respect you, I'll lay it down for you, bro.

687
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Speaker 3: But if I have zero respect for you, then anything's

688
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 3: possible and you're dangerous to me. That's a liability. I

689
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 3: don't really get down with that. Only and the only

690
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 3: way I'm gonna have zero respect for you, LeVar. If

691
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 3: you talk to me like I'm your child, if you

692
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 3: talk to me like I'm more truth than you, that's

693
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Speaker 3: the only way I'm gonna.

694
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Speaker 2: Have that's true. That zero rs or less than that.

695
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 3: You don't talk to your child the way some of

696
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 3: these coaches communicate that I've been around the way they

697
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,280
Speaker 3: communicate to you. Bruh, you can't communicate to your There's

698
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Speaker 3: no way you can convince me you communicate to anybody

699
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700
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701
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702
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Speaker 3: comprehend that. But you don't even talk to your kids

703
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 3: that way. So where are you placing me if we

704
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 3: don't have a relationship, Where are you placing me anyway?

705
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Speaker 2: Coach?

706
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Speaker 4: But I praise them. I'm a fiery coach, but I

707
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Speaker 3: let's let's jump into this conversation of who is the

766
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 3: backup in Cleveland. Kevin Stefanski was asked about that very thing.

767
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I guess it's more relevant now than

768
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 3: asking who is your third string quarterback, which has continued

769
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Speaker 3: to be questions in Clevelands as we know why.

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Speaker 2: But here's what Stefansk you had to say.

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Speaker 7: The Joe trade took us by surprise. That was not

772
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Speaker 7: something that we saw coming. You know, they called us

773
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,919
Speaker 7: and happened very fast, and happened not too long ago.

774
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 7: So still working through all roster type of things. I

775
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 7: always have to be mindful of our players and our

776
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 7: players development, and I want to make sure that I'm

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Speaker 7: always doing what's best for our players and of course

778
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Speaker 7: our team. But you know, with young players, I'm always

779
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 7: thinking about last week making the change with to Dylan.

780
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Speaker 7: You have to think long and hard about that because

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Speaker 7: these these are young players that you're so invested in

782
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Speaker 7: their development. So I'll let the week play out, make

783
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Speaker 7: a decision later on that.

784
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Speaker 3: So I know we don't have a lot of time.

785
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,760
Speaker 3: But I mean he goes with Dylan Gabriel. What's y'all's

786
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 3: take on that he didn't name definitively Shador or anyone

787
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:31,280
Speaker 3: else the backup.

788
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 2: What's y'all's take?

789
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Speaker 4: Listen, man, I don't know what the hell going on

790
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 4: with Kevin Stefanski. Is he being directed to do some

791
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 4: of these things and make some of the comments that

792
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 4: he's making. If Joe Flacco is traded and Shader Sanders

793
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 4: is on an active roster, who else gonna be the backup?

794
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Speaker 4: You're gonna bring baby Zappy off the practice squad to

795
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 4: be the backup when Shadura has been on an active roster? Like,

796
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 4: what was the hold up? This is killer player's confidence

797
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 4: one on one If that's what Kevin sefans should be

798
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 4: trying to build Shadir Sanders confidence. We believe in him.

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00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 4: Of course he's gonna be the backup if something happens

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Speaker 4: to Dylan. We have all faith that Shadirl Sanderson come

801
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 4: in the game and get it done.

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00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 2: Oh, we don't know who's gonna be the backup. We

803
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 2: gotta wait through the week of practice.

804
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 4: If he ain't good enough to be the backup, why

805
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 4: is he on an active roster over a quarterback that's

806
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 4: on the practice squad?

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00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 5: Super quick? Last word plex super quick. Yeah, I just

808
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 5: don't understand it. He just said that a Joe Flacco

809
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 5: trade came too kind of quick. Well, you didn't have

810
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 5: to trade him, but you still traded him. So that's

811
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Speaker 5: what I don't understand. But for Kevin Stefanski not to

812
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 5: mention and say, who's the backup quarterback? Who else do

813
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 5: you have on the roster? We all know that your

814
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 5: doll Sanders is going to be the backup to day

815
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Speaker 5: Dylan Gabriel. Listen, everything things happen in football games. He

816
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 5: could go down tomorrow. You never know. Then, then who

817
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 5: you're gonna put in a game. You're gonna have to

818
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 5: put ash your door, Sanders, because you're not gonna put

819
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 5: a practice squad quarterback in Belli Zappi in front of him,

820
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:04,439
Speaker 5: period point blank.

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Speaker 3: It'll be interesting to see how that situation continues to unfold. Uh,

822
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 3: there's a lot of different directions that it could go in,

823
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 3: and it'll be interesting to see how that again, how

824
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 3: that develops.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to up on game. We are at the

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Speaker 2: end of the first hour.

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Speaker 3: But the good thing for you is that we got

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Speaker 3: one more to go, so make sure you stay locked

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Speaker 3: in loaded, all right. We're gonna take a quick break

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Speaker 3: and then we will be right back.

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Speaker 2: This is TJ.

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Speaker 3: Huschman's out of Plexico Bert's LeVar Arrington up on game