Speaker 1: It's one thirteen am in hadden Field, Illinois, and you're
Speaker 1: listening to Night Call. Hello, and welcome to Night Call,
Speaker 1: a podcast to keep you company during those strange days
Speaker 1: and only nights. My name is Emily Oshida. I am
Speaker 1: here in New York, and with me on the other
Speaker 1: line in Los Angeles, I have Molly Lambert and Tess Lynch.
Speaker 1: I was just thinking when we all recorded together recently
Speaker 1: that Emily was noting that we all bob our heads
Speaker 1: silently to the theme music that does not play. Yes,
Speaker 1: I think we're all in a little bit of a
Speaker 1: time work now, because it feels like we've been in
Speaker 1: Halloween Land for a Night Call for the last month, um,
Speaker 1: which I mean it's never not really Halloween time for
Speaker 1: Night Call, but you know, actual for Halloween time. But
Speaker 1: now we're recording this on October. Yeah, it's before Halloween.
Speaker 1: In real life, it's before Halloween, but by the time
Speaker 1: you listen to this, it'll be after Halloween. But we
Speaker 1: still wanted to talk about Halloween just a little bit,
Speaker 1: because why not. I think Halloween springs eternal, and yeah,
Speaker 1: what I really like about Halloween because like I was
Speaker 1: talking about this, because I love Halloween. I get really
Speaker 1: excited for Halloween. I love people decorating their houses because
Speaker 1: it's so tacky and great. Well, you've had a lot
Speaker 1: of good Instagram action on your personal Instagram account with
Speaker 1: really super Halloween decked out houses. That's like what I
Speaker 1: like tonight crawl for. I like to just like have
Speaker 1: something to play bingo with in the world. Speaking of which, Molly,
Speaker 1: can you please tell us about the Halloween mansions that
Speaker 1: you build. I made as spooky Halloween village for my cast.
Speaker 1: They're so good out of the plug free plug. They're
Speaker 1: welcome because my cats love any boxes. They like anything
Speaker 1: that's like a square or a rectangle they will sit
Speaker 1: on or in no matter like what size they are.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I just had a bunch of boxes that
Speaker 1: I was like letting them hang out and play with,
Speaker 1: and then I turned it into a spooky Halloween town
Speaker 1: and it was the most gratifying thing I've done. They
Speaker 1: were they had lighting. I was just thinking, like ten
Speaker 1: minutes ago, I was like, Oh, I'm going to turn
Speaker 1: it into a Christmas village later, because cats are always
Speaker 1: so drawn to Christmas presents and they want to sit
Speaker 1: on them. But then you're like Oh, are they going
Speaker 1: to pee on that box? So better give them their
Speaker 1: own boxes to pee from their own world. I mean, obviously,
Speaker 1: the New Halloween has been out and theater now for
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. I have not seen it. Um
Speaker 1: have rather? Have you seen it? The David Gordon Green No,
Speaker 1: we were supposed to see it together and then I
Speaker 1: got food poisoning. Yeah, and I have I was too tired. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I did have to review it, but I just wanted
Speaker 1: to see it for fun. I do want to see it.
Speaker 1: I saw a really good couple's costume at Amy Nicholson's
Speaker 1: Halloween party that she invited me to. That was old
Speaker 1: Jamie Lee Curtis uh and Michael Myers. I was like,
Speaker 1: is that woman dressed as like the older Jamie Lee
Speaker 1: Curtis Lorie Strode? And then she was just with Michael Myers.
Speaker 1: I hate to keep leading us a stray, but also, um,
Speaker 1: you drew my attention Molly to the best Halloween costume
Speaker 1: I've ever seen, which was the brown Recluse. Yeah, which
Speaker 1: was half spot. That was Emily Heller, right, I think
Speaker 1: so Hellor is awesome. She has a podcast with Lisa
Speaker 1: Hannah called Baby geniuses. It was an inspired Halloween costume. Yeah,
Speaker 1: spider eaty beal. Yeah. Can I tell you, guys the
Speaker 1: one amazing one I saw on Twitter? The other I
Speaker 1: think it was today actually, which was But you know
Speaker 1: that painting of Saturn eating his children, it's like that terrifying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they dressed up as that, all the blood coming off.
Speaker 1: It's really scary actually, because that painting is really scary.
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Speaker 1: I watched the original this last weekend because my computer
Speaker 1: was lost slash probably got stolen, and I just watched
Speaker 1: a bunch of movies. Also because film Struck is going away,
Speaker 1: so I was like, gotta watch all the film Struck
Speaker 1: I possibly can. I used it to watch all I
Speaker 1: watched all the Stars Borns. It was useful. It's so
Speaker 1: useful to have something that just has old movies. Well,
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Speaker 1: new Apple TV for film Struck and it's still buggy
Speaker 1: as hell on it. Film Strucks buggy also for me,
Speaker 1: but I'm still sad it's going away and Canopy you
Speaker 1: just need a library card, right, You need a library card.
Speaker 1: And it's like the collection resembles a library DVD section
Speaker 1: two because it's actually runs pretty deep and international and
Speaker 1: art house stuff just because it's like, I don't know
Speaker 1: whoever's in charge of buying up that stuff for for
Speaker 1: libraries tends to be like pretty academic about it. So
Speaker 1: you can have a pretty good film education for free
Speaker 1: with Canopy, and I highly recommend it. Um, it's a
Speaker 1: good company libraries. Yes, yeah, get a library card. Anyway,
Speaker 1: Off topic once again, Um, I had not seen Halloween
Speaker 1: for a second. I'm not that into the slasher genre,
Speaker 1: to be honest, so that's why I haven't. I still
Speaker 1: have seen any of the other Halloween's other than the
Speaker 1: first one. Three Yeah, I mean, I just I mean,
Speaker 1: are they all built around the the slasher kind of No? Three?
Speaker 1: Three is the one I was telling you about last Yeah,
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with regular Halloween mythology, and it's
Speaker 1: about like a scary Halloween mask that gets stuck to
Speaker 1: kids faces terrifying. Yeah, but do people get stabbed or
Speaker 1: stocked at night or anything like that? I mean they
Speaker 1: don't not get stocked at night. I like Slashers T
Speaker 1: what do you fall in Slashers middle It depends on
Speaker 1: the slasher. I was never that big into Halloween. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I love when we all represent the different viewpoints on
Speaker 1: I did like three I did. I liked the first one,
Speaker 1: but I didn't feel any need to revisit it. Um.
Speaker 1: I like the third one, but yeah, it's not like
Speaker 1: something I returned. I love John That's what I was
Speaker 1: going to say, Like, there's so many more interesting John
Speaker 1: Carpeenter movies that are not Halloween. In my in my
Speaker 1: humble opinion, I love Halloween because it's like it's like
Speaker 1: such a seventies movie. I love when her Laurie Strode
Speaker 1: and her friend or just smoking pot in the car,
Speaker 1: because whenever I watched that scene, I'm like, oh, you
Speaker 1: don't ever see this passing the beck Deel test. Girls
Speaker 1: are just hanging out. They just want to babysit Kyle
Speaker 1: Richards from Real Housewives with Beverly Hills, isn't it. I
Speaker 1: feel like that started the kind of trendo of like
Speaker 1: really like almost all horror movies, especially that genre of
Speaker 1: horror movie past the beck del Test because they tend
Speaker 1: to be female victims. Well, that is why I like slashers.
Speaker 1: And this is like an argument that comes up in
Speaker 1: horror a lot. You know, some people think slashers are
Speaker 1: sexist because it's just all women getting killed. Usually, well
Speaker 1: it's sometimes don't get killed, see that. Like I didn't
Speaker 1: come up with slashes at all. I wasn't allowed to
Speaker 1: see any of that stuff, so I didn't really start
Speaker 1: seeing it to like late high school and mostly college,
Speaker 1: and I would like catch up on this stuff. And
Speaker 1: I think because I was sheltered from it and the
Speaker 1: whole like the sensibility of a slasher and what happens
Speaker 1: in the slasher movie was not something that I was like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, that's like a kind of movie, like you know,
Speaker 1: like a romance or something. I still find it really
Speaker 1: hard to get past that, Like all of them kind
Speaker 1: of feel like you're looking forward to the penetration basically
Speaker 1: like that, right, but you are, and that's like what
Speaker 1: happens in horror movies. That is what horror movies are about. Right.
Speaker 1: I wrote about this with Alien because I I like
Speaker 1: Alien because it's a reverse penetration that you're waiting for. Well,
Speaker 1: I like seeing men, you know, I don't. I don't. Like. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say I like seeing men get killed.
Speaker 1: But what I mean, it's like space, it's the same.
Speaker 1: That's the whole point of it is it's like a
Speaker 1: safe space for like horrible things to happen and there
Speaker 1: to be no real life consequences because it's all like imaginary.
Speaker 1: But I don't sort of see it that way. Like
Speaker 1: I just imagine all the boys who came up watching
Speaker 1: those movies and like got not necessary, like I want
Speaker 1: to be Michael Myers, but we're like just like normalize
Speaker 1: it in their heads that like this is right. I
Speaker 1: never think about it from the point of view of
Speaker 1: not being like I'm Laurie Strode. I'm just like yeah,
Speaker 1: and and like I get like, I'm very bored of
Speaker 1: Final Girls as a trope because it is sort of
Speaker 1: like one of the only ways where you get a
Speaker 1: female protagonist in a movie. But that's the thing. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you get female protagonists and horror movies because it's all
Speaker 1: about like are they going to get stabbed? But I
Speaker 1: still get they did they not have sex to earn
Speaker 1: not getting stabbed? No, I mean, like, don't do you
Speaker 1: guys like scream, not that in the stream I've only
Speaker 1: seen the first time. What are your top what do
Speaker 1: you watch like again and again in this scary movie space?
Speaker 1: I mean like, I like, oh really, yeah, I would
Speaker 1: much rather have Like I would much rather watch somebody horror,
Speaker 1: somebody horror. I'd rather watch the Thing or something like that,
Speaker 1: like I or that too, or Alien, Like I'd rather
Speaker 1: watch nasty, creepy aliens and slime and people getting torn
Speaker 1: up and stuff. Well, I love Alien, I mean Alien
Speaker 1: to me, honestly, this is to be the biggest nerd
Speaker 1: of all time. I'm like, Alien sci fi is more
Speaker 1: SAPIHI than horror. I agree, No, I think so though,
Speaker 1: because I think that horror I mean it's it's horrific.
Speaker 1: I mean it has horrific goods, but yeah, it's it's
Speaker 1: kind of rooted. I think I think we all really
Speaker 1: like The most is Rosemary's Baby, but also Carrie, because
Speaker 1: that's a movie that I think about consciences. Carrie is
Speaker 1: the greatest movie of all times. I'm sorry, I don't
Speaker 1: actually mean that, but I do. It's one of the
Speaker 1: best Halloween movies, and it's also kind of a flute
Speaker 1: because I don't think Brian to Palma is like the
Speaker 1: world's most amazing director. Well, I know, it's one of
Speaker 1: the rare cases of somebody doing like some of his
Speaker 1: best work super early in his career. It's just sissy
Speaker 1: space act No, but it's all it's a profer board
Speaker 1: because it also has some of the most intriguing both
Speaker 1: here was in villains and somewhere between. Who are female
Speaker 1: in a way that's I mean Carrie's mom, especially like
Speaker 1: in the novel. I was always just like whoa, I
Speaker 1: forget who plays the mom? I always want to be
Speaker 1: like Mercy everything there we go and remake too. I'm
Speaker 1: just I never saw that that remake that was the
Speaker 1: one with them. What's the phrase, Chloe Grace? Did you
Speaker 1: see Carrie first or read it first? I read it first? Okay,
Speaker 1: So Tessa was my friend who like read all the
Speaker 1: scary books and then would like, tell me what the
Speaker 1: part I remember you like describing the end of Thinner
Speaker 1: to me because I was like, I want to know,
Speaker 1: I want to know, but I'm too scared. Um, But
Speaker 1: it seems like all those books are also really good
Speaker 1: there they are really good, but a carry, I think
Speaker 1: it's particularly good. Um, and then I thought the movie
Speaker 1: was fantastic, and I was like, oh, it's really interesting
Speaker 1: to have, you know, a male author and male director
Speaker 1: kind of capture like they did a pretty good job
Speaker 1: at capturing the locker room period. Religious mom. That's like,
Speaker 1: that's so traumatic. That entire scene is super traumatic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why it's so good because again, it's like such
Speaker 1: a seventies movie. It's like the characters are all grounded
Speaker 1: in being real characters and you care about like their dynamics,
Speaker 1: and there's some sad stuff happens. Everyone's not just like
Speaker 1: a caricature of like a mean asshole in high school
Speaker 1: or like the good kids. And the dudes are mostly
Speaker 1: really hot, Like I think they suck, but they're really
Speaker 1: really Oh it's so nice. One thing I'll say about
Speaker 1: ta Palma that I do like is that he's very
Speaker 1: good at like shooting men in a way that's that's hot.
Speaker 1: He makes John Travolta look good in a lot of movies,
Speaker 1: and uh puts people in half shirts because it's also
Speaker 1: just the early seventies. There's a lot of good half shirts.
Speaker 1: And I like it because it's like the football players
Speaker 1: are like on a spectrum of good and evil. Everyone's
Speaker 1: on a spectrum of good and evil, right, Like you
Speaker 1: kind of want everyone to get not every wanted to
Speaker 1: get killed. But like I mean, I guess the thing
Speaker 1: that's good about Carrie and that's like, but I'm fine
Speaker 1: missing from something like Halloween and even like the original Suspiria,
Speaker 1: even though I like and I was thinking about that
Speaker 1: a lot when we're thinking about like seventies horror and
Speaker 1: kind of revisiting it and remakes now, which feels like
Speaker 1: in many ways the seventies three doo um is, Like
Speaker 1: I feel like those movies are are like Harry and
Speaker 1: I don't know what else I can think of off
Speaker 1: the top of my head, Like they're about being human
Speaker 1: in some ways, Mary's Baby, all those Rosemaries. Maybe yeah
Speaker 1: it's about humans. Yeah, they're like about characters, and they're
Speaker 1: all like a really slow build to horror, which is
Speaker 1: what really is good. Like what I don't like about Slashers,
Speaker 1: Like you know, later on in Slashers is when it
Speaker 1: does just sort of become like what's the craziest kill
Speaker 1: that we can do and like introduce like a bunch
Speaker 1: of characters and they're all interchangeable and then we just
Speaker 1: like kill them often increasingly like crazy ways. I don't
Speaker 1: actually like that stuff that much. And I just saw
Speaker 1: The Omen for the first time, which was good, not
Speaker 1: as good as The Exorcist, and also well, I I
Speaker 1: was pointing out that The Bad Seed is like a
Speaker 1: better version of the Omen. Yeah, and I love the
Speaker 1: Bad Seed. This is one of the seeds of our friendship.
Speaker 1: It's just about a little girl who's a sociopath and
Speaker 1: from the fifties mark even weirder. See, I think this
Speaker 1: is the thing though. There's so many good, interesting horror
Speaker 1: movies and concepts from the seventies and and we're in
Speaker 1: the similar territory but where people want to see that
Speaker 1: kind of thing now. But we're mostly making remakes of
Speaker 1: those movies, which is like cool and fine, and the
Speaker 1: Spirit remake is like different enough that that it does
Speaker 1: feel like its own thing kind of that I'm like,
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Speaker 1: Sabrina TV show Academy. Well, she's torn between two worlds.
Speaker 1: The human world is the witch world. The world the
Speaker 1: witchy world has a boarding school that I haven't gotten
Speaker 1: up to that yet because I'm only on episode three.
Speaker 1: The episodes are very long. It's called Chilling Adventures of
Speaker 1: Sabrina and it's a show on Netflix. It stars Kieranan
Speaker 1: Schipka Sally Draper as Sabrina. Um. I loved these comic
Speaker 1: books so much that I was like the number one
Speaker 1: most excited person about the show. And then I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm getting too excited about the show. What if it's
Speaker 1: not that good? Um, but it is really good so
Speaker 1: far that how can you see it's good? And that
Speaker 1: the episodes are long because they just are, like I thought,
Speaker 1: there's just a lot of things happened, and I was
Speaker 1: just watching them back to back, so I was like,
Speaker 1: I can't tell where it ends and begins because the
Speaker 1: way Netflix has it set up is to just like
Speaker 1: go into the next one. Yeah. This is like a
Speaker 1: symptomatic thing of Netflix shows, and not not just Netflix shows,
Speaker 1: but I think in general, like recent TV shows, is
Speaker 1: the recognizable arc or template that a TV episode is
Speaker 1: based on has been like stretched or something because everybody
Speaker 1: expects you're just going to keep watching the next episode anyway,
Speaker 1: so it doesn't have to have that like five acts
Speaker 1: structure necessarily, so it's really easy to be like, where's
Speaker 1: the time gone? What about that thing? A lot of
Speaker 1: horror fiction writers actually do where it's like everything ends
Speaker 1: with a cliffhanger, so you're like motivated to keep going
Speaker 1: just a little bit, and then you're watching a whole
Speaker 1: another episode. But Sabrina is a delight. It's super satanic horror,
Speaker 1: kind of seventies horror. It's heavy on the satan. It's
Speaker 1: heavy on the satan. There's so much satan. It's all about,
Speaker 1: like the witches are satanic witches, very explicitly, and it's
Speaker 1: genuinely and scary and creepy and like adult even though
Speaker 1: it's a teen show also and just great production design.
Speaker 1: I saw a part of it while waiting for Hot Chicken,
Speaker 1: and I at first I was like, is this flowers
Speaker 1: in the attic and that. I was like, oh no,
Speaker 1: but it has that like timeless I mean, she's she's
Speaker 1: always wearing the sixties. Is like the best coats show,
Speaker 1: coats and jackets. It's like the whole show is jackets. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The guy who plays Harvey, her boyfriend, who's like, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of a lovable lunkhead, has some really good jackets.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I saw, I was. I was eyeing
Speaker 1: here and his jacket. She had like a little peak coat. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's good. Um Bronson Pin show is the devil in it? Wait,
Speaker 1: what it's like. I don't like Bronson show no me neither,
Speaker 1: but he's good at playing the devil. He also plays
Speaker 1: at yuppy in the Lango years and is good at
Speaker 1: playing a person you hate. Yeah. So Sabrina is a
Speaker 1: great show. Everybody should try it out. I'm going to
Speaker 1: go watch the rest of it probably later. Sail Away
Speaker 1: tests what is the scary thing you've been watching recently?
Speaker 1: So I just saw that Peee's Big Adventure was on
Speaker 1: Netflix and it has been maybe like fifteen years since
Speaker 1: I watched that movie. And I my kids are six
Speaker 1: and three, and I was like, I was probably six
Speaker 1: maybe when I saw this movie for the first time.
Speaker 1: I have no idea if that's accurate. Uh. And I
Speaker 1: showed it to my kids and it was great. I
Speaker 1: love that movie so much. Like that movie sucked me
Speaker 1: up so bad as a kids. So I made my
Speaker 1: kids watch it. That was implicit. And when I said
Speaker 1: I was about sick, everyone knows that there's large mark. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's scary. Yeah, there's Francis as the devil. So Peewee's
Speaker 1: Big Adventure really is so good. It's so good right now,
Speaker 1: I feel like it's a Halloween movie even though it is.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, it all it has like such an
Speaker 1: appealing I don't know, there's something like so frenetic about
Speaker 1: it and like just this like heightened tension. We were
Speaker 1: talking about the Ladies for a minute where it was
Speaker 1: like we liked such weird stuff as kids in the eighties,
Speaker 1: because Tess was saying that her husband was then like,
Speaker 1: all right, the kids are ready for RoboCop. He's counting
Speaker 1: down watch RoboCop with that. It's not time, So I
Speaker 1: have to watch that again for like the second time
Speaker 1: in a year or something because I'm going to talk
Speaker 1: about it on a podcast. Robo Copy. That's awesome. She
Speaker 1: was saying, like it was Peter's favorite movie as a kid,
Speaker 1: and he was Terminator in RoboCop. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: mean it's kind of hilarious, Like I remember that era
Speaker 1: where those movies were basically advertised like and marketed to
Speaker 1: explicitly marketed to children despite being kind of hard are violent.
Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't RoboCop even like flirting with n
Speaker 1: C seventeen at one point, I had like unprecedented levels
Speaker 1: of gore in it. Uh yeah, bless Paul Verhoe. Then hey,
Speaker 1: you guys, we had an important update, maybe the final
Speaker 1: update of Assaga. We've been following closely, the murder board.
Speaker 1: Should we check in with that? Yeah? Why don't we? Okay, Hey, so,
Speaker 1: if you sell the board, do you tell the buyer
Speaker 1: the whole history of the board? And, like I said,
Speaker 1: this is something I wouldn't have even thought about if
Speaker 1: not for all the discreptions you've had about it. But first,
Speaker 1: let's just say you don't tell them. I'm still not
Speaker 1: saying acent believe in all this spirit stuff and whatnot,
Speaker 1: but I'm definitely not sure it can't be real. What
Speaker 1: if you sell them the board without telling them about
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Speaker 1: something bad happens, then you gotta start to feel like
Speaker 1: it's at least partly your fault, right, But what if
Speaker 1: you do tell them? One of you? I I think
Speaker 1: it was Emily said that the girls are originally asked
Speaker 1: for it. Do what they wanted? Why they wanted a
Speaker 1: board made out of that piece of wood, and they
Speaker 1: wanted it for the bad stuff, like maybe it was
Speaker 1: gonna I don't know, power it up or supercharge it
Speaker 1: or something. So if you tell people about it and
Speaker 1: they still want to buy it, they probably just wanted
Speaker 1: for the bad stuff, right, And if they do something
Speaker 1: bad with it, you're still kind of on the hook
Speaker 1: for letting them have it, right, So no matter whether
Speaker 1: you tell them or not, just I'm just dwelling on
Speaker 1: all the stuff you've talked about, there's still sort of
Speaker 1: like a moral conundrum there. Anyway, I think those are
Speaker 1: the choices. And after listening to you guys hash over
Speaker 1: all this, I find myself honestly kind of conflicted. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you, or you and your listeners if
Speaker 1: you want what to do before deciding, I can wait
Speaker 1: a while for an answer. I guess though, I would
Speaker 1: like to get to fucking save out of my house
Speaker 1: at some point. But if you've got any feedback, I
Speaker 1: appreciate it. So thanks for all your insight and keep
Speaker 1: up the great show. Thank you so much for that update.
Speaker 1: This has been a wild ride. So we had an
Speaker 1: email proceeding this that said that, um, the person who
Speaker 1: had ordered the murder board, she was kind of shamed
Speaker 1: on social media called which all of this stuff, and
Speaker 1: then her parents found out and they're religious. H How did.
Speaker 1: How did they find her? I think ours No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I think she was talking about this. I think she
Speaker 1: told her parents or something. No she I think she
Speaker 1: told some of her friends, and then her friends started
Speaker 1: like giving her ship on social media. And then her
Speaker 1: parents found out, and her parents were are very religious,
Speaker 1: and they were furious. They forbade her from finishing the
Speaker 1: purchase of the murder board. So our woodworker was allowed
Speaker 1: to keep the deposit, but that wasn't very much money.
Speaker 1: And then she said she she wouldn't take the murder board.
Speaker 1: So now he's left trying to figure out what to
Speaker 1: do with this thing if he wants to. I think
Speaker 1: the options were kind of like burn it, get rid
Speaker 1: of it. The other one was to keep it as
Speaker 1: kind of like a showcase, because he said, as pictures
Speaker 1: and it actually is like gorgeous, it's really so he
Speaker 1: could keep it as an example of what he can do,
Speaker 1: which I think is probably a pretty good choice other
Speaker 1: than it means keeping a cursed object. And then the
Speaker 1: third one is finding a different buyer, but one who
Speaker 1: won't or no. Well, I think he was asking if
Speaker 1: that's ethical. I actually don't think that is. I think
Speaker 1: you have to tell people. Yeah, he was saying he would.
Speaker 1: He wouldn't feel comfortable selling it to somebody without telling
Speaker 1: them it's cursed. But he also doesn't want to sell
Speaker 1: it to someone who knows it's cursed and wants to
Speaker 1: all that. Yeah, I think I think the right answer
Speaker 1: isn't the burnet category. I think he's just got I mean,
Speaker 1: if you get to keep the deposit, you know whatever,
Speaker 1: it's not a huge loss hopefully for you know it
Speaker 1: is the deposit was like, then you need to charge
Speaker 1: a bigger deposit, bro like for your fine word, would
Speaker 1: would working skills? I feel like she should have to pay?
Speaker 1: Is that crazy? Well she can't, I mean if she,
Speaker 1: I think that that's like the legality of that would
Speaker 1: be tricky. You can't force someone to complete a purchase,
Speaker 1: you know, if for whatever reason they have to back out, Like,
Speaker 1: what's he gonna do? Take a teenager at a small
Speaker 1: claims court as a teenager? I think because if her parents,
Speaker 1: if her parents forbade her from taking it, she's going
Speaker 1: to pay for this to begin with? This is uh interesting.
Speaker 1: I think I think you do have to destroy it
Speaker 1: and sorry, if that's that is indeed a huge loss.
Speaker 1: Both of time and resources. But I think I think
Speaker 1: you gotta and I don't know that we're necessarily the
Speaker 1: best authorities at this point for you as far as uh,
Speaker 1: properly cleansing your workshop and everything else of your involvement
Speaker 1: with this board. But I would, uh, I would, I
Speaker 1: would try to do a thorough job of it. I'm
Speaker 1: going to advocate for a different approach. So I have
Speaker 1: a neighbor um he lives a block over, and he
Speaker 1: is not evil, but he's very interested in satanic memorabilia,
Speaker 1: like cult stuff. He has all that stuff, Like it's
Speaker 1: just if you multiple, you know, just take like the
Speaker 1: murder board and come up with like six random examples
Speaker 1: of things exactly like that, like he owns them. But
Speaker 1: he's not a bad or creepy person. He's a person
Speaker 1: who is so he really doesn't believe in those kinds
Speaker 1: of things. Therefore he finds it novelty and so he's
Speaker 1: not collecting these things to like harness their evil power.
Speaker 1: He's just doing it to make people super uncomfortable and
Speaker 1: not want to stay at his house for a week,
Speaker 1: which is by the way, great insurance. So I think
Speaker 1: of satanic kitch in Los Angeles there's a lot of
Speaker 1: Satanic kitch, and most of the people who collect satanic kitch,
Speaker 1: I think I feel it's because like that's what's Satanism
Speaker 1: is really about. This is about like atheism basically, right,
Speaker 1: It's not really exact worshiping evil or like Satanism as
Speaker 1: a as a formal religion. Yeah, that exists, although some
Speaker 1: of some there are definitely people who are Satanic in
Speaker 1: a more formal sense and more power to them, but
Speaker 1: well maybe not more power to them, depends on how
Speaker 1: you think. But also, somebody owns a bunch of like
Speaker 1: Filima like Crowley stuff like that is normal to me.
Speaker 1: Somebody founded like a bunch of like Nazi memorabilia, and yes,
Speaker 1: exactly not cool. So I would say you could sell
Speaker 1: this board to someone who is so extremely secular that
Speaker 1: they have an interest in weird, culty creepy kind of stuff,
Speaker 1: just to kind of like feel it's almost like saying, like,
Speaker 1: I'm not afraid of this scary by board that was
Speaker 1: made from murder house, so sell it to them on eBay.
Speaker 1: There's like a shitty museum in Hollywood that has a
Speaker 1: lot of like serial killer artifacts and stuff called the
Speaker 1: Museum of Death. Um, I always got it confused with
Speaker 1: the other museum that is the Scientology Walk Psychiatry, Psychiatry
Speaker 1: and Industry of Death. It's like right across this Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're right across the street from each other, but uh,
Speaker 1: it's kind of arguable which one is scarier and why
Speaker 1: the Psychiatry Museum of Death. I've always been too scared
Speaker 1: to actually go in. With people who have gone it
Speaker 1: say there's a part where they put you in like
Speaker 1: a padded room, and they're like, this is what happens
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Speaker 1: Today's where's the possibility? Where like we are forced to
Speaker 1: take responsibility for the murder board? What do you mean?
Speaker 1: No publicized this saga? I think what we could do
Speaker 1: is if you want to list the murder board on
Speaker 1: eBay or something. I think to night call listener would
Speaker 1: like the murder board perhaps. If so, please give us
Speaker 1: a call at two four oh four six night or
Speaker 1: email us at Night Call podcast from putt. But I
Speaker 1: have to say, it's really nice. You guys really might
Speaker 1: not be able to afford it, it's not Should we
Speaker 1: share pictures of it? Yeah? Or if you'd like to
Speaker 1: commission more woodworking from this fine woodwork, Yes, that's what
Speaker 1: we should do, is that you should offset the cost
Speaker 1: of burning this thing by us. Being like every true
Speaker 1: die hard night call listener should have some kind of
Speaker 1: like a cool night night call wooden thing night called
Speaker 1: spirit board. Yes, perfect the next night call right? Yeah, Okay, Hey,
Speaker 1: Night Call. It's five one in Upstate New York, and
Speaker 1: I'm doing one of my favorite things, which is walking
Speaker 1: my dog and listening to your podcast. And the one
Speaker 1: I'm listening to today is the discussion about that cremine cookies,
Speaker 1: and it made me think of something my wife has
Speaker 1: joked about for the last five years, ever since previous
Speaker 1: dog died, which is eating his cremaines and not you know,
Speaker 1: like a whole bowl of a stinky into it and
Speaker 1: he's done with it. She hasn't done it yet, but
Speaker 1: you can all discuss whether it's better or worse if
Speaker 1: it's the family member or not. And I'm asking if
Speaker 1: it's better or worse if it's a pet. So anyway,
Speaker 1: night call, God bless you and your wife. Seriously, wait,
Speaker 1: he's like proposing like dipping the dog, like like a
Speaker 1: fun dip, to be the PG version of that. Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was for sure, Like she's going to snort a
Speaker 1: line of the dog and then just do a little chaser,
Speaker 1: which depends on the kind of dog likes. The idea
Speaker 1: that you like absorb your pets like life, life energy. Look,
Speaker 1: I get it. If I could clone my dog, Honestly,
Speaker 1: if if I could clone my dog even just by
Speaker 1: selling my house. I might have already cloned my dog.
Speaker 1: It's just that I need to sell my house and
Speaker 1: then like sell everyone else's houses, do you know, just
Speaker 1: selling off everything in your life in order to clone
Speaker 1: your dog. I've thought so much about cloning my dog.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what would it take to clone the dog?
Speaker 1: Kind of pro cloning? Right, Well, only when it comes
Speaker 1: to cloning my dog, it's the only one. Um, I
Speaker 1: think it's great that you want to dab your dog.
Speaker 1: I don't think that that. I mean, there's hasn't come
Speaker 1: out yet, but when people do see the movie Roma,
Speaker 1: and this is not a spoiler, but there is a
Speaker 1: very memorable image in it where they go to a
Speaker 1: rich person's house and they have a whole room that's
Speaker 1: just like like hunting trophy type heads of all their
Speaker 1: previous dogs. It's terrifying. It was like, that's one where
Speaker 1: you couldn't memorialize your dog. I'm sad. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't think you should eat your dog's ashes. I don't either.
Speaker 1: It feels like there's a lot of things you could
Speaker 1: land on before you and meeting your dogs ashes. But
Speaker 1: I like the idea of endlessly questioning this, like every
Speaker 1: night before you go to bed. Did you talk about
Speaker 1: Disneyland ashes on the podcast yet or was that just
Speaker 1: on an email? I think let's talk about that for
Speaker 1: a moment. Uh. There was an article in the Wall
Speaker 1: Street Journal this past week about the the secretly, very
Speaker 1: popular practice of scattering a loved one's ashes at um
Speaker 1: Disney parks. I think Disney World is the one that
Speaker 1: they were talking about in the article, but it I
Speaker 1: think that it happens on on both coasts, and uh yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like they have you have a loved one who
Speaker 1: they were never more happy than when they were in
Speaker 1: the happiest place on earth, and why not? Why not
Speaker 1: let them live there for eternity. But the hilarious thing
Speaker 1: in the article is all the protocol around it, because
Speaker 1: it's so I guess it happens so often that there
Speaker 1: are codes, like for the janitorial staff, like I think
Speaker 1: they called a heap alert or something. Um like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they got all kinds of Disneyland, but you just don't see. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they shut down the ride, they say, they say
Speaker 1: there's a technical difficulty with the ride, and then somebody
Speaker 1: goes through with a heap of vacuum and cleans up
Speaker 1: the ashes. Um. I knew about this because I'm a
Speaker 1: Disneyland nerd and they were like, they've it happened so much,
Speaker 1: I guess. And the number one ride, so that happens
Speaker 1: on our haunted mansion. And it's a small world, which
Speaker 1: is by the way, I'm like, oh, you might have
Speaker 1: just hated them, And it's a small world. Can you
Speaker 1: imagine being stuck in It's a small world. So my
Speaker 1: parents had a friend they were stuck on It's a
Speaker 1: small world if the ride broke down and they were
Speaker 1: just like held hostage in there for hours and hours
Speaker 1: listening to that song. I don't know why if you died,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't want to be on like Tom Sawyer Island
Speaker 1: or whatever it is where it's like you would want
Speaker 1: to be. Where would you like to be buried in Disneyland? Everybody, Oh,
Speaker 1: this is a good question. The area with the ducks
Speaker 1: that's right outside the castle where the baby ducks, you know,
Speaker 1: the baby's I'd be in the baby Duck zone because
Speaker 1: that's like this weird overlap between nature and fantasy. I
Speaker 1: love the real animals in the park. I have never
Speaker 1: been so I love when the rides breakdown because then
Speaker 1: you get to see the light. You get to look
Speaker 1: at every mouth. Broke down on Indiana Jones last time
Speaker 1: I went on it, and I was like so happy
Speaker 1: because they turned on the lights and a mechanic came
Speaker 1: out to fix the fake sheep, and I was like,
Speaker 1: like a jumpsuit, like a real mechanic. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: like a real mechanic. And I was like, how do
Speaker 1: you get that job? My friends were just laughing at
Speaker 1: me because they were like, you're more excited about this
Speaker 1: than like the ride working. I love Indiana Jones. I
Speaker 1: went on the one at euro Disney and it was
Speaker 1: Indiana Jones and the tomplo peri um. I would I
Speaker 1: would want to be scattered into one of the oldest
Speaker 1: attractions still still running more or less unchanged in Disneyland,
Speaker 1: which is the train ride. But when you go through
Speaker 1: the primeval Worlds, which is so beautiful and so peaceful,
Speaker 1: where would you want to be? Mr Toad? Oh, Mr,
Speaker 1: that's good, but then you go to hell? But then
Speaker 1: you go to hell if you got your ashes, just
Speaker 1: thrown an all on one throw into what they say
Speaker 1: is like because it happens so much that they want
Speaker 1: to discourage people from doing it. As they say, like
Speaker 1: it doesn't end up in the ride, it ends up
Speaker 1: in a vacuum, and it goes in the trap. But
Speaker 1: as we now know, nothing bad can happen to you,
Speaker 1: even if you like just accidentally eat all those ashes,
Speaker 1: and even if the funnel cake is just someone's grandma
Speaker 1: has been like, put in the funny, you'll be fine,
Speaker 1: it won't hurt you. Although actually in one article it
Speaker 1: did say that the level of formalde hyde would still
Speaker 1: be in the ashes. I don't really believe that. What
Speaker 1: do you guys think there's really there's different camps because
Speaker 1: the Kremaine's cookies, it was widely agreed, like it's no
Speaker 1: big deal. You can eat cremines. Everybody you can't, you shouldn't.
Speaker 1: But like I don't think that, you know, everyone needs
Speaker 1: No one needs to shut down a ride and grab
Speaker 1: a vacuum. You can just let it be. They should
Speaker 1: let people throw the ashes into like sleeping beauties. Well
Speaker 1: people probably one there too. I bet I could think
Speaker 1: of places you could throw ashes that they wouldn't find them. Thum,
Speaker 1: when we have our Patreon, you can we'll give the
Speaker 1: hot tips that'll be the bonus content. Well, we've all
Speaker 1: been given a lot to think about this week. If
Speaker 1: you've got thoughts about what the wood workers should do
Speaker 1: with the murder board, including if you would like to
Speaker 1: purchase a murder board and serious series and crews only,
Speaker 1: and if you'd like to tell us where you think
Speaker 1: the best places to put ashes at Disneyland is or
Speaker 1: a better place than Disneyland to scatter ashes which could
Speaker 1: be like many other places. Uh, give us a call
Speaker 1: it too four O four six night or a night
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