WEBVTT - Listen: Wayne Chrebet (12/17) 0:00:02.080 --> 0:00:05.560 Welcome back to the Official Jets Podcast, presented by Amazon 0:00:05.640 --> 0:00:09.000 Web Services. Here at the bet MGM Casino studio, Ethan Greenberg, 0:00:09.039 --> 0:00:12.280 Eric Allen joined by Wayne Crabett. Wayne, thanks for joining us, 0:00:12.360 --> 0:00:15.520 Thanks for having me listen. I gotta ask this to 0:00:15.600 --> 0:00:17.680 you right now, right off the bat. I was thinking 0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:19.680 about this. Every time you come back and you go 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:24.239 out there in the field house and you see yourself 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:28.720 hanging a monster image of you and all of the 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:33.520 Ringer Honor inductees of this organization that's been around since 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:37.479 nineteen sixty, do you take a look at it just 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:41.040 for a second and doesn't make you reflect. It's funny 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:43.080 you say that, because I actually took a picture of 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:45.120 it today when I was at practice just I can 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:48.560 show my kids. But yeah, talking to Christopher Johnson to practice, 0:00:48.560 --> 0:00:49.800 and I'm just like, I come here and I just 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:53.080 feel so happy seeing that, and you know, I thank 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:55.920 them for making me part of the organizations still put 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:57.640 me in a ring Honor the all time team, So 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:02.639 it's still kind of dream like. You know what, what 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:06.400 was the first we've talked before? I mean, I remember 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:09.759 reading the story that we did together on New York 0:01:09.800 --> 0:01:12.120 just dot com and I feel like there's a thousand 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:14.480 different things we can talk to you about. But one 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:18.440 of my favorite things that that you told me when 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:22.920 you signed with the Jets. You obviously it's still lived 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:25.440 in the dorm and just walked to practice every day, 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:28.240 Like is how weird? Was that? It was really weird, 0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:30.480 But it was kind of an advantage because EVER was 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:33.560 kind of homesick coming from all over the country. But 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:36.480 my wife was my wife now was a year behind me, 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:38.720 so I just stayed in the dorms. So I go 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:40.920 to practice and still at my backpack from class on 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:43.640 my hat low and like just kind of blended in, 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:45.840 like I didn't have a care in the world. I 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:48.360 had nothing to lose, you know what I mean. So 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:52.400 UM definitely helped me out. But you were attending practices 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:56.160 when you were a student there, obviously an accomplished receiver 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:59.400 at Hofstra, But would you go across the street in 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:03.280 attend training. Can't practice this before you? When it got 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:05.240 to try out with the Jets, I had seen it. 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:07.480 I didn't think much of it, that I'd be out 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:11.239 there someday, but um, it was it was a nice 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:15.079 thing to have there. UM, especially once I started playing 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:17.679 and I knew everybody there. You know, I was a 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:21.400 local guy, But um, I missed those days. I miss 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:25.000 it being in Long Island. Yeah, just a Long Island 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:27.960 fans are gonna love hearing about. Yeah, because you you 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:31.000 grew up in Jersey, you live in Jersey, but you 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:33.200 miss it being out there. Yeah, just a lot of 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:37.160 good memories. I mean when I played, I wish the 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:39.440 facility was here though, because it's like forty or five 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:41.920 minutes and I could have lived home. But that's why 0:02:41.960 --> 0:02:46.720 I enjoyed my time in Long Island. So can you 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:49.920 take us and whoever is listening, whether it be video 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:53.280 or audio whatever, when you were when you found out 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:56.560 that you were calling to the Godfather by Julian Edelman 0:02:56.880 --> 0:03:01.080 and Danny Amondola, Like where were you? What happened? And 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:05.720 do you almost feel like that's a rite of passage now? Actually, um, 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:09.240 we got in touch with Avendola. Um, just I had 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:11.000 been in finance and I was just helping some of 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:15.160 the younger guys get adjusted to life in the league 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:17.840 and what comes after the league. And I said, if 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:19.800 you're ever in town, we'll go out to eat. And 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:21.919 he said, um, I'm when being town, I said, we'll 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:24.280 go out and get some good checking farm in New York. 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:26.760 And uh, he's like, you mind if I bring somebody 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:29.160 Like sure, He's like, I'm gonna bring an Edelman. Like 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:32.560 that's great. So we're just talking, had a great dinner 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:34.239 and they're like, you know, we don't call you Wayne, 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:36.400 we call you the guy father, the guy father. A 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:39.080 slap like that. I appreciate that. And they're just talking 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:41.840 about how they used to watch my film and Amundola 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:44.640 at a poster me in his in his bedroom, and 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:46.640 I appreciate. I was humbled by it because those guys 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:50.800 are great and they certainly carried the torch, you know 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:53.600 for the slot receivers. But um just you know, I 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:57.000 was part of the beginning and that is great. And uh, 0:03:57.160 --> 0:04:00.360 I don't know, it's just a weird experience thought of 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:02.240 that way. But what's it? What's it like being in 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:07.520 the city. You three guys at a table. Are folks like, yeah, 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:11.000 you wouldn't see that? Is that? Is that? Why is 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:13.040 that waiting for? And then they're like, oh, there's the 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:18.960 guy with the beard. Is that Yeah? Did people pop in? Yeah? 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:21.800 But it was weird because we um all posted a 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:24.520 picture of the three of us said little put across 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:28.680 the middle till we die hashtag to Godfather and uh 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:32.680 but um it just you know, I've never really met 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:37.040 those guys before, but their respect was mutual. So, um, 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:38.880 I don't want to give out him in too much love. 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:43.040 Obviously everybody else can do that. But what do you 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:46.960 appreciate about his game? He's this tough guy. Yeah, he's 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:48.960 he does it right, you know, and he's been doing 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:51.320 it for a long time and he still haven't figured 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:53.960 him out, which is great. Keeps adjusted. I mean, it's 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:57.800 nice to have a quarterback like that for your whole 0:04:57.839 --> 0:05:00.680 career that bleesing you. But um, now he wants some 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:03.800 super Bowls. He's done well for himself. So the question is, 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:06.120 you know, is he getting nearer Hall of Fame status? 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:08.640 And I think you know, there's another year or two 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:10.880 like that, you know, winning super Bowls. He's got a chance. 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:14.120 What does it mean to you to be recognized as 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:19.120 the Godfather from two guys that are very successful in 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:21.720 the slot and almost you know, I feel like you're 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:24.200 almost a trend setter because you were the slot receiver 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:27.520 before the slot receiver made it big. Yeah. Um, no, 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:30.440 it's great. I don't be arrogant, but they really didn't 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:33.080 have that when I started. Now they drafting guys just 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:36.279 to be in the slot. But when I started doing 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:38.720 that on third downs and stuff, people like, oh, you're 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:41.760 best third down receiver this net. And I was offended 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:44.240 by it. I was like, Oh, I catched the ball 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:46.359 first and second to him, not like some sub that 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:49.200 comes on the third down. And my dad's talking to 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:52.320 me about it, and I said, he said, if I'm 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:55.400 gonna be you know, coined that phrase, I'm gonna be 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:57.440 the best there ever was at it, and I kind 0:05:57.440 --> 0:05:59.760 of embraced it and from the fans the third down 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:02.480 thing and um, just kind of character of my whole career. 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:05.760 I know the majority of my catches were third or 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:10.719 first down conversions. That's just kind of happened. Receptions and 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:18.559 definitely over three. Now, you said they didn't really play 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:23.640 offense like that. Who do you credit for changing that? 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:27.719 Dan Henning was a parcelves when you go back to 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:33.040 what you guys did in that transformation where it was like, hey, 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:36.440 Jets are gonna play different offensive football and they're gonna 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:39.440 use the receiver a lot differently than what we've seen. Yeah, 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:41.080 when Henning came in, he did a great job, and 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:44.920 Charlie Weiss was there, but um, they just put you 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:48.040 the best position to succeed where your strengths were. So 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:50.719 they just kept me in there. And you know, I 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:52.520 did my thing on the inside and the other guys 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:56.279 did their things on the outside. And this was perfect chemistry. Um. 0:06:57.000 --> 0:06:58.719 Like I said, everybody was doing their strength. But it 0:06:58.800 --> 0:07:01.719 was just uh, some good years with those guys. Did 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:03.760 you have to ask the coaching staff at the time, 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:08.280 because we all now or no now about option roths, right, 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:10.840 you know, you can go this way if they're sitting here, 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:13.000 if leverage here and things like that. Did you have 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:17.640 to convince the coaching staff for more freedom? No? No. 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:20.000 And the great thing was like when Vinnie came in 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:22.800 and I had the option rounds. I could go left, 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:25.840 that could go right, I could stop, um just by 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:28.520 the pre snap read. I could look at Vinnie. He 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:30.720 looked at me, and he know what I'm doing, because 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:32.440 obviously he has to be ready to throw the ball. 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:36.160 But we just kind of had that like special you know, 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:40.000 you know bond. I guess you could say unspoken bond 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:41.760 that you know he knew what I was doing, and uh, 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:43.440 we had a lot of access doing that, a lot 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:45.360 of success over the years. How rare is that way 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:48.400 you just described that unspoken bond because you see a 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:51.040 lot of the very good quarterbacks and very good receivers 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:54.640 have that bond. But how rare of a thing is 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:57.960 that to no pre snap, no communication. Yeah, I know, 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:00.800 Wayne's gonna break this way and if this I sits here, 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:03.400 I can fire it there. That's just for repetition, you know, 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:06.200 not just in practice after practice, going over, going over, 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:08.560 like you know, not the short routes, but when I'd 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:10.440 have to run steam routes and stuff like that poster 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:13.120 flag and you know I have a deeper route and 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:15.360 you know, I'm primary guy. I would look at Vinny, 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:17.360 he looked at me, and we'd be like do you 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:19.520 see what I see? And like this is this is 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:22.720 gonna work. So we were no pre snap, like, you know, 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:25.280 if it was gonna be successful player, you know, he 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:26.600 if he could just put it on me, I was 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:29.160 gonna catch it. But um, that's the kind of stuff 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:32.280 I miss, Little things like that, you know, little relationships 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:34.839 you have with all your teammates. Like sorry, I just 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:38.080 feel like it's one of those things where when your 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:40.880 buddies across the room and you both see something that's 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:42.560 really funny and you look at each other, you just 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:45.880 start cracking up. I feel like that's the football equivalent. Yeah, 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:49.160 it's just like you know you're looking at it's exactly 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:51.400 what it is. And we were best friends on the 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:55.280 on the field, off the field, and uh, I always said, 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:58.319 what would my career look like and what would the 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:01.720 Jets organization look like if he was played for the 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:03.880 Jets majority of his career. He was only here a 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:06.560 handful of years, and I think if we had him longer, 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:09.280 and when we had Bill longer and kept that you 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:12.360 know core piece together, does no reason we couldn't have 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:15.840 won a Super bowler too. What do you think most 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:22.040 about when is brought up? Just the word right? Um, 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:24.679 it's tough to know we were that close because I 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:28.600 know whoever won the game with the Broncos was going 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:33.000 to win the Super Bowl. We already killed the Falcons. Um. 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:37.560 But it's it's interesting people always I assumed we were 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:40.640 up tend nothing at the half stupid story. I would 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:42.560 bet my house on that we're up ten and a half. 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:44.360 And someone showed me We're only up three nothing at 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:46.080 the half, but then we went up ten nothing. I 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:48.520 was like, wow, So I guess I don't remember the 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:51.640 game that great, but we were essentially thirty minutes away 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:54.640 from winning a Super Bowl, I felt, and I'm like, 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:57.200 we're going right back. And Vinny tears as a chilled 0:09:57.240 --> 0:09:59.559 his first game, and I broke my foot in the 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:02.959 last season game. So we're during Sunday games. We both 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:05.960 got our legs up ice on him and we're sitting 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:07.680 there watching the game on TV in his house and 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:09.679 we're like, this was not how it was supposed to be, 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:13.800 so um and we never really got close after that. 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:17.719 What did you like most about Vinny Um? And what 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:20.200 do people not know about him? Because you mentioned how 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:22.560 good of a man he is. He's a gentleman, a 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:25.560 good husband, a great father. He was so well liked 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:28.200 inside the locker room. One of the strongest dudes I've 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:32.880 ever been around. I remember back at Hofstra hit him 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:35.000 doing all the things, taking care of his body, having 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:39.800 a low body fat, but his personality. Guys just gravitated 0:10:39.800 --> 0:10:42.000 towards him. Yeah, yeah, pound for pounding is one of 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:45.640 the strongest guys. But um, yeah, he led by example. 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:48.199 You know he didn't get in your face, but you knew, 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:50.720 you know, you better be listening when he's talking in 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:54.000 the huddle, no one, no one else is talking. But um, yeah, 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:56.160 he's been a great friend. He's been like a you know, 0:10:56.679 --> 0:11:00.480 big brother kind of figure. Um ten years older than me. 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:02.560 And his family has been great. Like I knew we 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:05.600 we met them when he signed, I guess we're on 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:07.880 the Intrepid. They had something going on in the Trepid. 0:11:07.920 --> 0:11:11.680 I met him and his wife, his young kids, and um, 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:14.680 they from from day when it was like that, and 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:16.280 then the first time we got on the field together, 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:18.760 I was like, oh, this is gonna be good. What 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:23.000 you you had said that? Sorry to bring him up again, 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:28.480 Edelman and both watch your film but being the Godfather, 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:31.760 was there anybody that you watched film of that you 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:33.880 or did you feel like you almost carved your own 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:36.840 role without looking at anybody in particular, saying I like 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:38.400 what that guy does, but I want to do a 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:41.640 little more. Right, Well, I mean they're watching game film. 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:43.280 I never read a chance to watch game film. But 0:11:43.440 --> 0:11:45.640 you know, I was a big football fan. I loved 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:48.560 watching guys like Jerry writes. Obviously but guys I really 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:52.480 took notice. Was like Andre Reid from Buffalo. Guys like 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:55.439 did that kind of stuff playing in the outside, inside 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:59.800 and outside. But uh, seeing him because you know, Jets 0:11:59.840 --> 0:12:02.160 play twice a year. Um, he's just one of the 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:05.560 guys larger and him. You guys, I kind of thought of, 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:08.120 you know, do the same thing they did, you know, 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:12.319 mimic third game Steve Large and Seattle Seahawks. Yeah, that 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:15.679 asked me. That's a guy who goes under the radar. Yeah, 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:18.200 why don't we think about history? They asked me. Because 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:19.800 I was number three in training camp. I don't know 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:23.120 if anybody knows that. So everybody thought I was a kicker, 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:28.360 you know. But when it was time the last preseason game, 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:30.880 Clay was like, what number do you want if you 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:32.480 meet the team? And he told me it was available. 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:34.280 I was like, oh, I want a D if it's available. 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:37.319 So the next day I came in and said it 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:40.280 the three carbet. It said Aidy Carbett, and I was like, 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:42.720 you know, I still didn't know if I made a team, 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:44.199 but I'm like they gave me the number. I was like, 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:47.360 supposed to be a good song. I call my my parents, 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:51.160 you know, I'm like, uh did She like, did did 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:53.360 you make it? I'm like I don't know. They're like, 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:56.680 ask somebody. I'm like, I'm not asking anybody. So I 0:12:56.760 --> 0:12:58.640 was like, said, I'm just gonna go to the meeting. 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:02.760 They say stay, I'm fine. So that was it. Seen 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:04.560 the ad crebit up there, I knew that I had 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:06.840 made it. Speaking of that, well, why don't you retell 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:09.120 the story because I know a lot of our listeners 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:12.839 who were out there, a lot of young folks definitely, 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:17.920 who probably are not familiar with this. In your old words, 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:21.360 what happened the day when you come over across the 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:26.000 street from Houstra your report for practice or tryouts in 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:29.080 the spring at that time, I believe, and you're stopped 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:32.240 at the security gate. What's the background here? No, yeah, 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:35.480 the same thing coming from class backpack on hot low 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:38.560 and um you know had that that gate that had opened. 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:41.079 And the guy there, Harry Fisher, never forget it, he 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:43.719 was like eighty years old. Funny guy just went let 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:46.480 me in and man, I gotta go to practice. He's like, 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:48.439 no autographs. I'm like, I'm a player. I said, I 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:50.400 gotta go to practice, and he's giving me a hard time. 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:55.559 At all. It was hysterical, really, and then someone waved 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:57.480 me in and I was like, so, me and Harry 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:01.240 laughed about it forever. Um, he's a great guy. You know, 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:05.360 he passed recently. But um, that was my first experience 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:07.880 trying to be an NFL player was getting denied at 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:09.960 the gate. And was that in the spring. That was 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:15.360 mini camp. Yeah, and later on one of your old 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:18.840 heady coaches her mad Words is now, of course, the 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:23.600 head coach at Arizona State. He famously got locked out 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:29.520 his gate code wouldn't work at Hofstra, so he scaled 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:33.160 the gate together. Because her famously used to work out 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:35.880 every morning, probably still does, God bless him, Ountain Tempy 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:39.720 four thirty every morning. Yeah, the first guy there. Yeah, yeah, 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:43.000 he does running those drills to get his treadmill lifting 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:46.000 a little bit. And I saw one of the shows 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:48.280 they were showing on the Arizona State football and I 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:50.800 think they showed him doing the same thing. Yeah, yeah, 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:54.720 I saw that to Actually, can you tell the story 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:58.240 you told me once last year about your workout at 0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:01.840 Hofstra and I believe you were between there's some weird correlation. 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:04.080 You're you're either going to be with the Jets or 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:06.680 one of was it the Bengals or something. It was 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:09.960 the Bengals and the Saints or Jets for free agency 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:12.040 and so what can you just tell us the that 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:15.040 whole story and how you ended up in Green and white. Um, 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:16.960 you know, I had worked out for a couple of teams, 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:19.880 um try out sweet and they had a good couple 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:22.840 of scouts. The Canadian League was looking at you two, right, Yeah, 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:25.760 I went up there for workout, just to try to 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:30.520 get looks and um, so when the draft went on 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:32.560 the first day, obviously I'm not getting drafted, but the 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:34.880 Saints and the Bengals said maybe they'd picked me up 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:38.480 in the later rounds. So um. One of the guy's 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:41.600 name was John Griffin from the from the Bengals. So 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:47.560 I mean sorry John um Garrett. Yeah, Jay Garrett's brother. 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:49.600 So when I came in the house, you know, I 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:52.200 didn't get drafted. I was upset. And then I get 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:54.680 in the house, Mom was like John Griffin's on the phone, 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:57.200 like you mean John Garrett. Like no, John Griffin. I'm like, 0:15:57.200 --> 0:16:00.200 who's John Griffin. John Griffin is like, you know from 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:03.000 the Jets. We want you to come in. Um, you know, 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:05.240 do a workout for us. I was like, the Jets 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:08.800 never showed much interest. And then I went in. I 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:10.560 thought I was going to sign a contract. They're like, no, 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:13.120 you gotta work out. So they threw me like a 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:16.480 hundred passes, then dropped one and um, they brought me 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:18.040 in and they still didn't know if they're gonna sign me. 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:19.840 I'm like, there's nothing else I could do more to 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:22.120 get signed by them. So then they called me and 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:23.720 my agent. They said, we want to sign your free 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:28.080 agent contract, and um, my agents lied. He's like, well, 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:31.480 these other guys are offering the money to sign. So 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:34.480 he got me fift as a signing bonus, and I 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:36.520 thought I was rich man. It's like not, that's a 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:38.600 lot of nickel beer and ten cent wings in hospital. 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:45.080 Hell yeah, so I got um um and uh, you 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:47.560 know the rest of his history speaking of nickel beer 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:53.640 ted cent wings. You obviously later took over this establishment, 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:58.120 but he used to be manna raise how about maybe 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:02.200 how different was maybe for you guys as players to 0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:05.440 get away a little bit, Because I remember a couple 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:08.200 of times i'd see you and Laverneus go over there 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:12.119 and just go upstairs and have your private time kind 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:14.359 of away from it where we don't live in a 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:16.800 day and age back then of where people got our 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:21.120 phones or cameras snapping shots, so trying to get video 0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:23.359 all of you. Yeah, they didn't have they didn't have 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:25.760 social media really back then when to play, which is 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:27.760 a good thing. I don't know how it dealt with that, 0:17:28.359 --> 0:17:31.560 but um, yeah, you really you really can't do anything 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:33.760 these days and people not knowing about it, and once 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:37.240 you it's out there and it's there forever. So I'm 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:39.359 kind of glad they didn't have camera phones when I 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:41.520 was playing. Speaking of Coles, was he also one of 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:44.879 your favorite teammates? Yeah? Um, yeah for our He's a 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:46.840 great friend, great teammate, and know he's coming to the 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:49.120 game this week. Can't wait to see him. Another guy 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:52.280 that's a tough guy, strong and uh you know, kind 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:55.760 of like your brotherhood with those guys. What a dang. 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:57.560 I just had a question in my head. Now, Oh, 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:00.680 do you ever go back to Ostra? No, not anymore 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:04.159 once I got rid of football. Yeah, how much did 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:07.280 that hurt? That hurt because it wasn't expected. I mean, 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:10.240 they could have talked to the alumni or the former 0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:13.920 players and could have raised the money somehow to save 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:17.000 the program, but it wasn't that much money. But you know, 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:19.840 they just didn't want anymore. And you know it's a 0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:21.920 shame because we had built it into a pretty good 0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:25.560 one double A program. But um, they did what they 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:27.960 had to do, and you know I cut cut ties 0:18:28.000 --> 0:18:29.880 with them. You know the day they did that. How 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:32.760 many years has it been, It's been probably what a 0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:36.200 decade it you're probably close to it. Yeah, yeah, I 0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:39.200 thought of you immediately. Obviously there are other guys who 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:41.800 played there, but over the years and things like that. 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:44.800 When you heard that a hostel disbanding the football program, 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:47.560 was like wow, yeah, so what are you gonna do 0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:51.320 with great great times there? But so shame doesn't continue, 0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:54.640 but maybe one day, you know, it'll come back. What 0:18:54.720 --> 0:19:00.000 was your favorite uh Parcels story? I mean, you were 0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:04.080 guy who would always put us that down when you 0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:08.040 had to speak, he spoke, you got firm opinions. But 0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:12.320 what was he like for you? Um? It was great 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:14.960 because I was a massive Giants fan growing up and 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:17.920 I always wanted to gatorade and build parselves. So Harry 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:20.959 Carson doing it, but he's like the great Wayne Carbett. 0:19:21.080 --> 0:19:22.919 I know you. I know everything about you. I know 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:25.720 all the cops and the judges in Burdon County because 0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:28.399 we're from the same area. He said, Corbet, if you 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:31.040 don't listen to me, your career it's going down. Heal 0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:35.280 faster than a dump truck would have cement parachute. That's 0:19:35.280 --> 0:19:36.560 what he said to me. And I was like, Wow, 0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:39.720 that's pretty harsh. But he made you play hard for him. 0:19:39.960 --> 0:19:43.359 Hit you know, he hit all the white buttons. And again, 0:19:43.440 --> 0:19:45.520 like I said, if we would have had him more 0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:47.920 years than he was here, I definitely could have seen 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:51.920 a Super Bowl or two. I feel like everyone that 0:19:52.080 --> 0:19:54.560 I've heard tell of parcelf story always says what you 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:57.760 just said. He knew exactly what button to press for 0:19:57.880 --> 0:20:00.520 what guy at the right time, just to get under 0:20:00.560 --> 0:20:03.320 their skin enough to like really fire them out. I 0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:06.439 feel like that's a that's a skill almost, It's like 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:08.960 a rare skill to be able to push you still 0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:11.119 keep in contact with him. I've seen him like up 0:20:11.119 --> 0:20:14.080 at Saratoga at the race track and now how all 0:20:14.080 --> 0:20:17.240