WEBVTT - "I BECAME A GOD"

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<v Speaker 1>Shut helone front door. Hello, no way is that you? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Is this?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? Tybee? What's what's up? Dude? How is life?

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<v Speaker 1>You have? You just caught me at the perfect time?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Why is it? Why is it the perfect time?

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<v Speaker 1>I just finished I just finished the most cathartic yoga session,

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<v Speaker 1>just like stepped out of tadasana, which is a corpse pose.

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<v Speaker 1>And I looked it right at my point, open Welch's

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<v Speaker 1>fruit snacks package and then I hear a beep and

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<v Speaker 1>it's you.

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<v Speaker 2>It must have been the universe working its magic on you.

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<v Speaker 1>I swear it was the fruit snacks.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I so you here's what the call screen I

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<v Speaker 2>wrote down about what you wanted to talk about, and

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<v Speaker 2>uh I looked at it and it's it. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>make a lot of sense, but I I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>talk to you about it.

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<v Speaker 1>YEA clear up?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm gonna say, Can I tell can? I?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? Tevy thirty years old from Colorado. It says here

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<v Speaker 2>that you started living your best life once you made

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<v Speaker 2>yourself out of clay and started living as this clay figure. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>what does that mean? How did you make yourself out

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<v Speaker 2>of clay?

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, I wouldn't have even been able to tell you

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<v Speaker 1>all this time until the moment happened. And even now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still wrapping my head around how it got to

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<v Speaker 1>this point and why it had to be this way.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm just super happy and excited that it did.

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<v Speaker 1>But you like kind of explain it. It's not like

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<v Speaker 1>I made It's not like I made a realistic rendition

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<v Speaker 1>of myself like someone else may assume, maybe like I

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<v Speaker 1>made a small version of my body. I made like

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<v Speaker 1>a character. I guess you can call him an avatar

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<v Speaker 1>that represents me on like the deepest level. And he's

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<v Speaker 1>like three inches tall. And ever since I made him,

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<v Speaker 1>he's had it. He has his own house, now, he

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<v Speaker 1>has his own car, he has a whole bunch of friends,

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<v Speaker 1>he has like new teachers, he's starting his own restaurant,

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<v Speaker 1>and the whole time he's doing all this crazy stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>like very ambitious. I finally found my body that was

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<v Speaker 1>in pain for so long in the process of chasing

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<v Speaker 1>what society kind of makes you think you need to

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<v Speaker 1>do to be happy. And since I found my body,

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<v Speaker 1>like I've done everything I guess I should do, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've let go of things that I should have let

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<v Speaker 1>go of years ago. And I have found the most

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<v Speaker 1>relief in real like body, my corporeal self. But I

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<v Speaker 1>blame it. I don't blame it. I just I think

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<v Speaker 1>this little dude has something to do with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so let's go real slowly on this. You built

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<v Speaker 2>a little you, it's talking about it's okay, that's a

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<v Speaker 2>good that was a good top line. Okay. You built

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<v Speaker 2>a little guy at a clay that is not necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>looks like you, but it's a representation of you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and the little guy is living his own little guy life.

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<v Speaker 2>You've created for it because you are in control of

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<v Speaker 2>this little guy. You have created for this little guy

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<v Speaker 2>a house and a family, and and and you've basically

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<v Speaker 2>orchestrated for this little guy a nice life.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it was me. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>we did it together.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So you worked with the little guy to orchestrate

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<v Speaker 2>a nice life for him. Yeah, okay, and you've noticed

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<v Speaker 2>that as the little guy's life is getting better, are

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<v Speaker 2>you sitting there and making a house out of clay,

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<v Speaker 2>making a wife out of clay, making children out of clay?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he wants children he's not there yet.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's old enough in his realm, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's living it up. Like I'm telling you, he's

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<v Speaker 1>doing things.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I saw the point of the question. Are

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<v Speaker 2>you are you making stuff for him out of clay?

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<v Speaker 2>That's what That's what I wanted to ask.

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<v Speaker 1>My hands are yeah, okay, uh, And.

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<v Speaker 2>You feel as though your hands are are like, like,

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<v Speaker 2>are you channeling something? And the thing that you have

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<v Speaker 2>challenged is channeled is working with you to create these things.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm on like this, like I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of like a spiritual domino effect of understanding

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<v Speaker 1>the universe via this process, and I hope it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not digressing, but I feel like as I've been

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<v Speaker 1>making things for him and living my life through him,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been understanding how our creator, if you believe in that,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever angle you have on that, how they view us

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<v Speaker 1>and how they made us in their quote unquote image,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe not exactly their image, but how they feel. And

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<v Speaker 1>then as we live our best lives, it's like we're

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<v Speaker 1>honoring our creator. And I almost feel like when this

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<v Speaker 1>little guy's living his best life, he's honoring me. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I feel better, and then I can relax and

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<v Speaker 1>the stress is gone and I let go of things,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I handle myself and then it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>back and forth of treating each other right. And then

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<v Speaker 1>now I'm like thinking about how I must maintain this

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<v Speaker 1>conversation with myself in order to maintain spiritual connection with

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<v Speaker 1>the universe, like and whatever is responsible for it.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, actually it does make a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of sense. So as you have created this thing, and

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<v Speaker 2>as you have worked with this thing to create its

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<v Speaker 2>own life, it has shindy light perhaps on your relationship

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<v Speaker 2>with whatever it is you believe created you. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and tell me how it has influenced that relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>It's made me take care of myself. It's made me

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<v Speaker 1>honor myself. It's made me reach out for things I

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<v Speaker 1>never thought I had the confidence or the gusto to

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<v Speaker 1>reach out for, just because I feel like the creator

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever you want to call it, or them or

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<v Speaker 1>her or him, like that's what they would want, like that,

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<v Speaker 1>like they're up there and they want to see us

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<v Speaker 1>live our best life. Okay, So just like you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm gonna do it?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. Interesting, So so to the point that you just said,

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<v Speaker 2>you're reaching out for things you never would have thought.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get specific here, what specific things have you been

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<v Speaker 2>doing for your life that are positive as a result

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<v Speaker 2>of all of this, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Guess to start on some more primal levels I've I've

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<v Speaker 1>I think maybe you would be interested in this one.

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<v Speaker 1>I stopped masturbating, which was interesting because you know, as

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<v Speaker 1>a as a as a human being, it's the natural thing,

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<v Speaker 1>or it's built into you to feel like you want

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<v Speaker 1>to satisfy yourself in that way in order to I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>honor yourself in a certain type of way, like it

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<v Speaker 1>must deserve a little relief for something. And because I

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<v Speaker 1>found relief elsewhere in this more deep way, I've let

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<v Speaker 1>go no pun intended, but I've let go of that

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<v Speaker 1>part of myself interesting and it's as a result, hell

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<v Speaker 1>my lower back, it helped me spot my pelvic floor.

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<v Speaker 1>It's helped me stop producing so much cortisol or stress

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<v Speaker 1>inducing chemicals in my body. Yeah, it's just been really

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<v Speaker 1>good in that way. I stopped smoking. I've been smoking

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<v Speaker 1>weed for like fifteen years, actually, no seventeen now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>misused to saying fifteen. For the past couple of years,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a nice number. But like seventeen years I've

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<v Speaker 1>been smoking I would, you know, everything, I could take

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<v Speaker 1>PC and I would, And now I've been like, I

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<v Speaker 1>switched over to CVD and it's been like, maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>best choice I could have made. I didn't even take

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<v Speaker 1>it seriously until now.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so I stopped masturbating, you stopped smoking weed. Anything else.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been able to save money for the first time

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<v Speaker 1>in my life. I have my own place confidently now.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a better relationship with my family. What else,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been able to drop traumatic relationships in my life

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<v Speaker 1>without reaching out or even having thoughts to reach out,

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<v Speaker 1>and I could talk about it without feeling triggered. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, just primal things that kind of bleed out

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<v Speaker 1>into I guess bigger things. And I'm really only at

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning of this, but I can tell it's in

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<v Speaker 1>a good path.

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<v Speaker 2>So to summarize where we are at so far, you

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<v Speaker 2>have created a small figure that has a representation of yourself,

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<v Speaker 2>and that figure, being the creator of it, has given

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<v Speaker 2>you greater perspective of the relationship between you and whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it is that created you, and your desire to honor

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it is that created you, has caused you to

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<v Speaker 2>make positive lifestyle changes, such as not masturbating, not smoking weed,

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<v Speaker 2>and forming better relationships with people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're so conciseed.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, we did it. You know. We started out this

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely no sense and uh we kind of got somewhere

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<v Speaker 2>with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're good at putting things into smaller sentences.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so let me ask you this, Uh where does

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<v Speaker 2>it go with this figure? Like, how long have you

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<v Speaker 2>been have you been doing this? This project, A jacked

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even whatever you call it, this thing with

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<v Speaker 2>this figure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. The odd thing is is this figure started out

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<v Speaker 1>or emerged from a reoccurrence of a imaginary friend I

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<v Speaker 1>had when I was younger that I abandoned when I

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<v Speaker 1>was younger due to a friend stealing him in some

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<v Speaker 1>really weird way that's too long of a story to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about. But as a result, I lost my path.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I thought of him again and I thought

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<v Speaker 1>about where this imaginary friend was, he brought me back.

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<v Speaker 1>And I didn't even make him correctly until like two

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<v Speaker 1>years later, after I realized I should honor this imaginary friend.

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<v Speaker 1>And then now he became like I finally made a

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<v Speaker 1>figure for myself and that figure is me. And that happened,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess several months ago. And since then, I've built

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<v Speaker 1>a house for him. It's like a three story house,

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<v Speaker 1>four rooms, like a balcony where they can DJ and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>He's had a driveway. But the next project is I'm

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<v Speaker 1>making a restaurant for him to serve up these dishes

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<v Speaker 1>that I make out of Milly Clay. I do Milly

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<v Speaker 1>Clay work. That's what the figure is made out of.

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<v Speaker 1>He's made out of a MILLI do you know what

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<v Speaker 1>a MILLI is?

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<v Speaker 2>No? But you know I have a question for you.

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<v Speaker 2>So h so your next thing for this h this

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<v Speaker 2>Clay person is to make them a restaurant.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so he can sern So.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you is any part of you living vicariously through

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<v Speaker 2>this figure? Like are you taking your own desires for

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<v Speaker 2>your life and giving them to this figure and the

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<v Speaker 2>idea that perhaps it will come back to you? Like

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<v Speaker 2>do you have a desire to open a restaurant? Do

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<v Speaker 2>you want to have a house? And all the sort

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<v Speaker 2>of things that you're giving to this this figure.

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<v Speaker 1>I do strongly believe in them, like a Karmix cycle.

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<v Speaker 1>So I do think, whether I like it or not,

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<v Speaker 1>these things may blossom into larger versions. Like these are

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<v Speaker 1>almost like dream boards someone might like perceive them to be,

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<v Speaker 1>but they also are very like internal like their external projects,

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<v Speaker 1>but their internal conversations with myself, Like like the house

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<v Speaker 1>that I built helped me find my body, and when

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<v Speaker 1>I found my body, I was able to recognize my

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<v Speaker 1>friends and my family. I was somewhere to be. But

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<v Speaker 1>now that I recognize my friends and my family, I

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<v Speaker 1>need to build a restaurant within myself to invite in

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<v Speaker 1>more people with this attitude that I've developed through building

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<v Speaker 1>this thing for this character, and the restaurant is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be something that helps me with my business and art,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's also something that will help me invite more

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<v Speaker 1>people just generally into my life. And I just felt

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<v Speaker 1>like I wasn't inviting healthy people until now, and I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to like reinforce that with these spiritual projects.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know the spiritual is the right word, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>to answer your question specifically, maybe I'll make a restaurant

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<v Speaker 1>or a gallery that is posed as a restaurant, and

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<v Speaker 1>I serve delicious artworks to people to enjoy with their

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<v Speaker 1>you know, internal conversations and maybe spark their own little

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<v Speaker 1>karmic circle.

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<v Speaker 2>So so, Tbby, tell me before we go, this has

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<v Speaker 2>been very interesting, this has been you know, I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 2>glad for you. You know, look, I think you know

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<v Speaker 2>that this is definitely not a traditional thing that you're doing,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm glad that it is. It sounds like it's

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<v Speaker 2>been helpful to you therapeutically. It's reinforcing this idea, this

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<v Speaker 2>sort of hypothesis that you know, everyone has their own

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<v Speaker 2>way of of dealing with the problems and the stuff

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<v Speaker 2>going on in their life, and that there are various

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<v Speaker 2>creative solutions to doing so. And it sounds like you've

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<v Speaker 2>very much found your own that's working for you. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm happy to hear that. I guess before we go,

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<v Speaker 2>what what does the future look like for you, Tabby?

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<v Speaker 2>Are there any visions that you wanna share with us

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<v Speaker 2>before before we move on?

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<v Speaker 1>Any visions? Well, right now, I'm working on an Avatar,

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<v Speaker 1>the Last Airbender Millie series and uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, like literally the best show.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, I'm deriving like lessons than learning from each

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<v Speaker 1>book all the way through Kora uh to help me

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<v Speaker 1>fully locked down who I am and what I want

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<v Speaker 1>to be As the server in this restaurant and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>if anyone wants to check that out, all they would

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<v Speaker 1>have to look up is uh pilot. Actually, this reminds

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<v Speaker 1>me I almost forgot what the hell? Okay, did you

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<v Speaker 1>ever get that drawing I sent you?

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<v Speaker 2>You sent me a drawing?

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<v Speaker 3>Drawing?

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<v Speaker 1>Yah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all the ship that was you?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah it's me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah I did get that.

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<v Speaker 1>Hell yeah, fucking.

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<v Speaker 2>Fuck damn, yeah, I did get that. It's it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's back. It's back at my parents' place. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I did get that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, that's amazing. Yeah, well god damn yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, with the line work and everything. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I did get that. Man, it's cool to like talk

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<v Speaker 2>to you. And now the next time I see that,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be like, man, that's the figure guy. Yes, sir,

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<v Speaker 2>well ship, what's your name again? Tebby?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh I'm Tybee.

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<v Speaker 2>Tybee well Tyby. Thank you first for sending me that.

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<v Speaker 1>You go by what no doubt. Thank you for doing

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<v Speaker 1>all of this. You've you've kind of led. You're the

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<v Speaker 1>last thing that I drew in that style, Like you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of broke me through that edate this style I

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<v Speaker 1>was in m M and I wanted to return the

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<v Speaker 1>savor and then I just I didn't even know it

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<v Speaker 1>was going to do my last drawing, And ever since then,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been chasing myself, Tybee.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have for people who are interested in you

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<v Speaker 2>and what you're doing? Anyone who maybe this call connected

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<v Speaker 2>with in particular? Do you have an Instagram or something

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<v Speaker 2>where they can connect with you on?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh? Yeah, I only have an Instagram. It's it's meta

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<v Speaker 1>pilot M E D A H P E I one

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<v Speaker 1>three seven. Yeah, check me out if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>see the avatar.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, Tybee? Anything else? Any final words for the people

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<v Speaker 2>the computer before we go?

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<v Speaker 1>Try tbd out.

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<v Speaker 2>Perfect, simple, clean, efficient? Uh, good luck to you, Tyby.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much for calling.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you Lyle Geck Nations plus.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. That was fascinating. I love calls like that, where

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<v Speaker 2>something every time, whether it's in a live show or

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<v Speaker 2>on the street or when I'm like looking at calls,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna pick for this show. Anytime I see something

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm like, what the fuck does that mean? The

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<v Speaker 2>only the only way to figure it out is to

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<v Speaker 2>dive into it with the parson. That was fascinating. That

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<v Speaker 2>was fascinating. I don't know what my own. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's interesting because it comes off as like bizarre

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<v Speaker 2>and foreign, this thing he's talking about of like he

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<v Speaker 2>created himself out of clay and that's caused him to

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<v Speaker 2>live his best life. You know, what the fuck does

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<v Speaker 2>that mean? And then he kind of gets into it

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<v Speaker 2>and it made sense in a way. It's like if

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<v Speaker 2>he is really diving into his role as like a

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<v Speaker 2>creator of another entity, and that gives him perspective of

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<v Speaker 2>of himself, like as the god that created him, and

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<v Speaker 2>how he wants to serve that God by not jacking

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<v Speaker 2>off or eating shitty and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, obviously that method of living a better

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<v Speaker 2>life is not going to appeal to everyone, but it

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<v Speaker 2>is for talking to that guy. To me is further

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<v Speaker 2>evidence of the creative ways in which people can come

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<v Speaker 2>up with, can go through to kind of deal with

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<v Speaker 2>their own ship. So props to tout to Tybee, thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for calling. I think you're again for that drawing

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<v Speaker 2>that shit is sick? Hello? Is this Morgan? This?

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<v Speaker 4>This is her?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>What's what's going on with you? Morgan? What are you

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<v Speaker 2>up to? What you know?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not gonna like I just got done having a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit of a menty breakdown.

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<v Speaker 2>A mental breaky. Okay, yeah, just like a.

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<v Speaker 4>Little break everyone's got to break every once in a while.

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<v Speaker 2>I fully agree. I think the the human capacity for

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<v Speaker 2>stimulus and the amount of stimulus in the universe have

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<v Speaker 2>not been keeping at good consistency with one another over

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<v Speaker 2>the years, and so it's it's inevitable to have a

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<v Speaker 2>a MENTI break ye every every now and then. Absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely what has been the driver of your mental breakdown?

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<v Speaker 4>So today, specifically, what I what I kind of called

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<v Speaker 4>in about, is like, you ever feel sorry. I'm so nervous.

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<v Speaker 4>I know you always say like after five minutes, I'll

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<v Speaker 4>be fine. I believe you, but like, wow.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, it's just the phone. It's just the phone.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not even real.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just a phone. Well, listen, I've tried to call

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<v Speaker 4>so many times, and I saw you in Philly, so like,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm so excited.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh hell yeah, I'm glad you had. What did you

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<v Speaker 2>think of the show?

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<v Speaker 4>It was great that woman sat on a cake, but

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<v Speaker 4>I had to it like the end because we had

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<v Speaker 4>to get our train back a kind.

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<v Speaker 2>Of fucking okay, yeah that was fun. Well, I'm glad

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<v Speaker 2>to see that you at least got to see the

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<v Speaker 2>beginning of the woman sitting on a cake.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yes, yes, I did see her sit on a

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<v Speaker 4>cake and she complimented my shoes in the bathroom. So

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<v Speaker 4>that's that's amazing. That's like a w for me.

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<v Speaker 2>So what is uh, what is driving your mental breakdown?

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<v Speaker 1>Morgan?

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<v Speaker 4>So do you ever feel like, I want to call

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<v Speaker 4>it imposter syndrome kind of, but like you ever feel

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<v Speaker 4>like your actions don't really like, I don't know, match

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<v Speaker 4>your thoughts? Like everyone. What I told the screener was

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<v Speaker 4>that I work with the elderly. I work in retirement home,

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<v Speaker 4>and they all seem to like love me, like think

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<v Speaker 4>I'm great, you know what I mean. I'm not trying

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<v Speaker 4>to like suck my own dick or.

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<v Speaker 2>Anything, but like, sure, suck your own deck all you want.

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<v Speaker 4>They all appreciate what I do, I guess, and I

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<v Speaker 4>love them. Then I want to take care of them.

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<v Speaker 2>That's great.

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<v Speaker 4>But sometimes like I feel like I'm not actually nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Hmmm, Like okay, so your thoughts can I well, it

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<v Speaker 2>says here that can I tell people what the what

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<v Speaker 2>the call scrator wrote down? Okay, the call scrator wrote

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<v Speaker 2>down that that Morgan works with old people and has

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<v Speaker 2>quote horrible intrusive thoughts about them.

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<v Speaker 4>Well that's pretty serious, Like, yeah, I do.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, listen, Okay, they don't, you know what, Listen. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>here's the thing. Here's the thing is, I don't really

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<v Speaker 2>care about like thoughts. Who really gives a shit. Thoughts

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<v Speaker 2>are only worth anything when they become actions. Now, actions

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<v Speaker 2>start as thoughts. So like, I think that whatever thoughts,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, you're innocent to any thoughts that pops into

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<v Speaker 2>your head until it becomes an action. So don't freak

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<v Speaker 2>out about yourself about any thoughts that happen. And your

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<v Speaker 2>humanity is the fact that you can act in uh,

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<v Speaker 2>contradiction to your thoughts. So yeah, which of these old

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<v Speaker 2>people are you thinking about murdering?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not, I'm not. I'm not planning any one's murder,

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<v Speaker 4>I promise. And they are not sexual. I promise. That

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<v Speaker 4>would be haunting for me, honestly.

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<v Speaker 6>But it's just like.

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<v Speaker 4>I love so I love working with them, and some

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<v Speaker 4>of them have some like really bad dementia, sure, and like.

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<v Speaker 6>It hurts.

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<v Speaker 4>It hurts my heart sometimes and the place is sad,

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<v Speaker 4>and we I do activities. I do therapeutic recreation. So

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<v Speaker 4>like I kind of keep them moving, keep their brains thinking,

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<v Speaker 4>do some bingo with them. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>So good. So I mean, in what way do you

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<v Speaker 2>feel like your thoughts are incongruent with your actions here?

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<v Speaker 4>Like, because I get so mad, like not at them,

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<v Speaker 4>but like internally when they just you know, even the

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<v Speaker 4>little repeating. I think it's overstimulation. Honestly, I think a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of it is over stimulations, like all the noises

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<v Speaker 4>and like they'll say the same thing over and over again.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm always patient, I'm always like okay, but sometimes

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<v Speaker 4>just sometimes when it's just me and like all of

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<v Speaker 4>the ones with dementia, yeah, snap.

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<v Speaker 2>A little okay, So I'm gonna let's get all right,

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna go We're gonna we're gonna go here real quick.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna go here real quick. All right. So you,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, you're doing a great thing. You're helping

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<v Speaker 2>out people with dementia. Okay, and okay, and you and

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<v Speaker 2>you do it a great thing.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're with this patient who has dementia and you're

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<v Speaker 2>really trying your best to help them. But after they

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<v Speaker 2>repeat the same thing over and over again, and they

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<v Speaker 2>are kind of acting towards you in a certain way

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<v Speaker 2>that is annoying as a result of their dementia. You

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<v Speaker 2>become annoyed because they're being annoying. Yeah is that Okay,

0:26:07.840 --> 0:26:10.000
<v Speaker 2>you become annoyed. But no, but here's the thing. But

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<v Speaker 2>here's the beautiful thing is you? Is it? Actually? I

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<v Speaker 2>almost think the fact that you are getting angry and

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<v Speaker 2>you are getting annoyed at these annoying dementia patients makes it.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes it even more beautiful because you're putting it

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<v Speaker 2>all aside to help them. You know, you're not letting

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<v Speaker 2>your annoyance stop you from helping these folks because you

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<v Speaker 2>have the it silenced to me at least, like you

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<v Speaker 2>have this conveyor belt system where the annoyance comes to

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<v Speaker 2>you and it's your instinct, it's your central nervous system,

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<v Speaker 2>and then that's your primal side. And then your human

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<v Speaker 2>comes in and you're like, well, okay, they're acting like

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<v Speaker 2>this because they have a mental illness. I need to

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<v Speaker 2>be more understanding and forgiving and patient and human with

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<v Speaker 2>these people. And then you are, yeah, I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>a beautiful thing. You know, your your okay, Yeah, because

0:27:18.119 --> 0:27:23.159
<v Speaker 2>you should. I like your gut reaction being annoyed. She

0:27:23.200 --> 0:27:25.880
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't feel bad about it. You should feel you're you're

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<v Speaker 2>doing a good thing. You're not letting your gut reaction

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<v Speaker 2>dictate You're not letting your gut thoughts dictate your actions

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<v Speaker 2>as part of being a human.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I couldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I would leave there immediately and I would cuss them

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<v Speaker 2>all out on my way out. You know.

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<v Speaker 4>Sometimes I do just get in my car and like

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<v Speaker 4>I just dream, like I don't even bother pulling out

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<v Speaker 4>of the parking lot. I'm just like streaming in there,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know what, That's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>But it is fine. You deserve it, you know more,

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<v Speaker 2>and your your car screams are deserved. Okay, car screams

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<v Speaker 2>are because you're you're like, it's it's the courtesy of like,

0:28:09.000 --> 0:28:11.680
<v Speaker 2>let's say you're on You're hanging out with a bunch

0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:14.080
<v Speaker 2>of people and you really have to fart, and you

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<v Speaker 2>know that your fart's so horrible and so but now,

0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:20.720
<v Speaker 2>but for the courtesy of those people, you don't fart,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you go into your car and then you

0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:25.359
<v Speaker 2>fart all you want. That was the courteous thing of

0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:28.040
<v Speaker 2>you to do. You know the fact that you had

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<v Speaker 2>to fart. There's no evil in that, it's just what

0:28:31.440 --> 0:28:31.920
<v Speaker 2>was going.

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<v Speaker 4>On with you. That's an amazing analogy.

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<v Speaker 2>So I I think as long as you're not letting

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<v Speaker 2>your annoyance cause you to lash out at elderly dimension

0:28:49.200 --> 0:28:52.560
<v Speaker 2>dementia patients, which I don't think it is. I think

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Yeah, yeah, I just you know, I feel like

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<v Speaker 4>like anger is a really weird thing that I think

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<v Speaker 4>about a lot because I feel like I've had so

0:29:05.240 --> 0:29:09.720
<v Speaker 4>much forever. It's just like balled up inside of me.

0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:13.000
<v Speaker 4>But like I've always tried to be like nice. So

0:29:13.040 --> 0:29:14.760
<v Speaker 4>it's like, am I actually nice? Or am I just

0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:16.360
<v Speaker 4>trying to like cover up the fact that I'm like

0:29:16.960 --> 0:29:22.000
<v Speaker 4>pissed off all the time, like a like an angsty teenager.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm what what what other? What other things are

0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:26.000
<v Speaker 2>you angry about?

0:29:28.360 --> 0:29:30.040
<v Speaker 4>I get angry at my roommate a lot.

0:29:31.520 --> 0:29:32.520
<v Speaker 2>Okay, what about.

0:29:34.240 --> 0:29:38.280
<v Speaker 4>Well, like she bought a new vacuum. I have a vacuum, right,

0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:40.080
<v Speaker 4>We have a vacuum that we use. It kind of sucks.

0:29:40.080 --> 0:29:43.600
<v Speaker 4>It's a shitty vacuum, but I bought it right first

0:29:43.600 --> 0:29:47.560
<v Speaker 4>time ever moving out, And she bought a new vacuum

0:29:47.560 --> 0:29:50.200
<v Speaker 4>this week. And then I come home and my vacuums

0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:53.800
<v Speaker 4>like on the curb, by the by the trash be

0:29:53.840 --> 0:29:59.480
<v Speaker 4>thrown away vacuum. She threw out my vacuum without asking me.

0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:02.480
<v Speaker 2>Did you Did you say anything to her?

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<v Speaker 4>I said, I texted her and I said, because she's

0:30:05.160 --> 0:30:08.200
<v Speaker 4>at work, and I said, hey, if you're gonna throw

0:30:08.240 --> 0:30:13.680
<v Speaker 4>out something that's that's mine, could you just ask? And

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<v Speaker 4>then she just read it like we just left me

0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:16.760
<v Speaker 4>on red?

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<v Speaker 2>So oh, well, you know, Morgan, You're doing the best

0:30:24.440 --> 0:30:27.040
<v Speaker 2>you can, I think. Can I tell you one I'm

0:30:27.040 --> 0:30:29.920
<v Speaker 2>gonna tell you one thing before we go. I hope

0:30:29.920 --> 0:30:33.320
<v Speaker 2>you're not don't get two in your head about whether

0:30:33.400 --> 0:30:35.760
<v Speaker 2>or not you are a good person or a bad

0:30:35.840 --> 0:30:39.320
<v Speaker 2>person as like a general overall label. I don't think

0:30:39.320 --> 0:30:42.920
<v Speaker 2>that ship is real. You're doing the best you can

0:30:42.960 --> 0:30:53.480
<v Speaker 2>out there, controlling your angry thoughts and uh transmuting them

0:30:53.520 --> 0:30:58.640
<v Speaker 2>into productive actions. I think I'm smart.

0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:01.920
<v Speaker 4>Holding in a fart until I get to.

0:31:01.880 --> 0:31:04.640
<v Speaker 2>The car or who else are you with? Are you

0:31:04.720 --> 0:31:06.320
<v Speaker 2>with anyone?

0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:07.520
<v Speaker 4>I'm meant like.

0:31:09.960 --> 0:31:15.200
<v Speaker 2>Metaphors metaphors, metaphor, metaphor, I'm holding I am I am

0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:17.840
<v Speaker 2>also holding in a far but mine is not metaphorical.

0:31:17.920 --> 0:31:19.360
<v Speaker 2>Mine is very, very.

0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:22.440
<v Speaker 4>Real, and so you can always let it rip like

0:31:22.480 --> 0:31:24.200
<v Speaker 4>it's this the world is your oyster.

0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:26.600
<v Speaker 2>Let it rip, you know, Morgan? Is there anything else

0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:27.880
<v Speaker 2>you want to say to the people of the computer

0:31:27.960 --> 0:31:28.479
<v Speaker 2>before we go?

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<v Speaker 4>People the computer? Be nice to people I don't know,

0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:40.960
<v Speaker 4>be kind lyle is it is?

0:31:40.960 --> 0:31:41.320
<v Speaker 7>It?

0:31:41.360 --> 0:31:43.600
<v Speaker 4>Is it awful of me to ask you a question?

0:31:43.720 --> 0:31:45.120
<v Speaker 4>Just one more question? You can answer?

0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:47.360
<v Speaker 2>What's the question? Yeah? Hit me?

0:31:49.040 --> 0:31:52.520
<v Speaker 4>If you had to choose which muppet would you fuck?

0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:57.520
<v Speaker 2>Which muppet would I fuck? Which? Which one is the

0:31:57.520 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 2>most the only I only really know Miss Piggy. But

0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:06.600
<v Speaker 2>she's an animal, so I feel like that's ethically But

0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:08.120
<v Speaker 2>I guess she's a talking animal.

0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:10.200
<v Speaker 4>They're all animals.

0:32:10.680 --> 0:32:13.880
<v Speaker 2>Okay, well then I guess, Yeah, I guess Miss Piggy.

0:32:14.600 --> 0:32:15.800
<v Speaker 4>Is that Miss Piggy?

0:32:16.480 --> 0:32:18.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I could go for miss I don't know if

0:32:18.760 --> 0:32:21.880
<v Speaker 2>are there any other? Who are the other girls?

0:32:22.200 --> 0:32:22.600
<v Speaker 6>Kermit?

0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:27.680
<v Speaker 4>You know you got Kermit? Mine personally is animal? The drummer.

0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:31.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I bet he would be pretty good. You know what,

0:32:31.480 --> 0:32:33.480
<v Speaker 2>I would suck him. I take back what I said.

0:32:33.480 --> 0:32:34.280
<v Speaker 2>I'd fuck him.

0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:37.680
<v Speaker 4>Really, So we're like, what are what do you.

0:32:37.760 --> 0:32:38.320
<v Speaker 2>What do you call it?

0:32:38.360 --> 0:32:42.600
<v Speaker 4>Whenever? You like not Irish twins. The is that I don't.

0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:48.320
<v Speaker 5>Know Eskimo brothers, brothers.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it's it's been an honor being an Eskimo brother

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<v Speaker 2>with you, Morgan, have a good rest of your entire life.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, Gek. I hope you do too. Keep doing

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:00.440
<v Speaker 4>you doing.

0:33:03.440 --> 0:33:06.800
<v Speaker 2>I like to say she was nice. Yeah, that whole

0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:09.719
<v Speaker 2>thing of the thought to your thoughts? What are your

0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:15.400
<v Speaker 2>thoughts say about you? I personally don't. I don't think

0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:19.560
<v Speaker 2>thoughts are worth much. I don't. I don't think thoughts

0:33:19.560 --> 0:33:21.480
<v Speaker 2>are worth much. I you know what, I don't work

0:33:21.600 --> 0:33:25.440
<v Speaker 2>on the subject of intrusive thoughts. I was walking down

0:33:25.520 --> 0:33:29.720
<v Speaker 2>the streets the other day and there was a guy

0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:33.800
<v Speaker 2>carrying a tiny baby, and I had a I've had

0:33:33.840 --> 0:33:35.520
<v Speaker 2>a thought popped into my head. I was like, what

0:33:35.560 --> 0:33:39.120
<v Speaker 2>would happen if I ran up to that guy and

0:33:39.200 --> 0:33:43.040
<v Speaker 2>I just punched his baby in the face. I would

0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:45.360
<v Speaker 2>never do I would never do that. I would never

0:33:45.400 --> 0:33:47.960
<v Speaker 2>do that. I would never do that. But I have

0:33:48.080 --> 0:33:51.760
<v Speaker 2>that thought almost I didn't have anything to do with

0:33:51.800 --> 0:33:54.200
<v Speaker 2>that thought. It just came to me, what if I

0:33:54.240 --> 0:33:56.880
<v Speaker 2>punched that guy's baby in the face. What does that

0:33:56.960 --> 0:34:02.280
<v Speaker 2>mean I'm a bad person? Fucking maybe Honestly, now I'm

0:34:02.320 --> 0:34:06.040
<v Speaker 2>thinking about it, but I wouldn't punch the baby. I

0:34:06.040 --> 0:34:09.280
<v Speaker 2>think the thinking about punching the baby and the actually

0:34:09.440 --> 0:34:16.920
<v Speaker 2>doing it are two different things. Again, for the record,

0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:24.719
<v Speaker 2>I would not punch a random person's baby, unless if

0:34:24.719 --> 0:34:32.560
<v Speaker 2>they did something to piss me off. Hello, Hello, what

0:34:33.280 --> 0:34:34.840
<v Speaker 2>is going on?

0:34:36.840 --> 0:34:37.560
<v Speaker 8>Oh wow?

0:34:37.800 --> 0:34:40.040
<v Speaker 7>This is Low? What a dream man?

0:34:40.160 --> 0:34:43.000
<v Speaker 2>This is Low. It's dream to talk to you. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>You're in London, right.

0:34:45.880 --> 0:34:46.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:34:46.160 --> 0:34:48.560
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, well just sound for London, but yeah, no

0:34:48.560 --> 0:34:49.480
<v Speaker 7>one would ahead of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm coming. I'm coming there at twenty twenty three.

0:34:52.520 --> 0:34:54.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do a live gecko thing. You should come.

0:34:56.280 --> 0:34:57.120
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, you can promise.

0:34:58.800 --> 0:35:01.000
<v Speaker 2>I I'll prom us I'll do it. If you promise

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<v Speaker 2>to come.

0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:04.000
<v Speaker 8>I promise I'll be there.

0:35:04.000 --> 0:35:07.160
<v Speaker 7>Man, that'll be ding come true for me. Can I

0:35:07.280 --> 0:35:08.960
<v Speaker 7>just thought, I just want to ask you a questions

0:35:08.960 --> 0:35:10.120
<v Speaker 7>your your glove.

0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:16.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know I know what you're going to say.

0:35:16.320 --> 0:35:17.960
<v Speaker 2>I know what you're going to say. I've said this

0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:19.960
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of I put. I cut two holes in

0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:22.520
<v Speaker 2>my gloves that I can use my MacBook.

0:35:23.840 --> 0:35:25.920
<v Speaker 7>It's a simple no, no, no, no, I wanted to know

0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:28.000
<v Speaker 7>if you could push your fingers all the way to

0:35:28.080 --> 0:35:31.240
<v Speaker 7>the end of the gloves or if they're like made

0:35:31.360 --> 0:35:33.279
<v Speaker 7>to these permanent pets.

0:35:33.880 --> 0:35:37.000
<v Speaker 2>Okay, now, okay, okay, yeah I could. I could theoretically

0:35:37.400 --> 0:35:40.040
<v Speaker 2>push my I mean, the gloves are oversized as to

0:35:40.239 --> 0:35:45.600
<v Speaker 2>simulate sticky gecko hands, of course.

0:35:45.640 --> 0:35:47.600
<v Speaker 7>Okay, well, thank you for clearing that up to me.

0:35:48.400 --> 0:35:50.439
<v Speaker 2>That's a funny thing to say, of course too. What's

0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:52.680
<v Speaker 2>your name again, Sam?

0:35:53.280 --> 0:35:54.560
<v Speaker 8>My name is Sam. Yeah.

0:35:54.760 --> 0:35:56.239
<v Speaker 2>Sam. What's going on with you in your life?

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<v Speaker 8>So, of course, not for some advice you man.

0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:03.640
<v Speaker 2>I moved.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I've lived in an apartment for about coming up

0:36:07.719 --> 0:36:10.680
<v Speaker 7>to four years now, and eighteen months ago there was

0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:14.960
<v Speaker 7>a new girl who moved into the building, and like,

0:36:15.080 --> 0:36:17.000
<v Speaker 7>I didn't really get to speak to her much, but

0:36:17.600 --> 0:36:20.120
<v Speaker 7>I saw her in the corridor she's moving in, and

0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:24.640
<v Speaker 7>she seems okay. And then one morning I wake up

0:36:24.680 --> 0:36:27.160
<v Speaker 7>and she's left her number outside my door, and I think,

0:36:27.320 --> 0:36:30.440
<v Speaker 7>I don't really want to give this girl the wrong impression,

0:36:30.600 --> 0:36:33.520
<v Speaker 7>but like, I've got all the other neighbors numbers in

0:36:33.560 --> 0:36:36.560
<v Speaker 7>the building, so I should, you know, just be polite.

0:36:36.800 --> 0:36:38.640
<v Speaker 7>So I wait a few days and just said, Yo,

0:36:38.760 --> 0:36:40.919
<v Speaker 7>it's Sam from that five.

0:36:41.040 --> 0:36:41.680
<v Speaker 8>Here's my number.

0:36:42.440 --> 0:36:44.319
<v Speaker 2>Do you do you believe that this girl left her

0:36:44.360 --> 0:36:47.400
<v Speaker 2>number outside of your door in a flirtatious way or

0:36:47.400 --> 0:36:48.319
<v Speaker 2>in a neighborly way.

0:36:50.920 --> 0:36:53.359
<v Speaker 7>I didn't know, but I just wanted to sort of

0:36:53.760 --> 0:36:56.960
<v Speaker 7>put the line down. I had something that happened before

0:36:57.000 --> 0:36:59.440
<v Speaker 7>and it ended really badly, so I'm just trying to

0:36:59.480 --> 0:37:04.200
<v Speaker 7>avoid that. So, you know, she asked me if I

0:37:04.239 --> 0:37:06.840
<v Speaker 7>had any like numbers forweed or ever a couple of times,

0:37:06.880 --> 0:37:09.440
<v Speaker 7>and I gave her that and that was chill. But

0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:12.080
<v Speaker 7>then it slowly started getting to the point where she

0:37:12.120 --> 0:37:15.280
<v Speaker 7>would be texting me sort of ten times a day

0:37:16.120 --> 0:37:18.200
<v Speaker 7>telling me that she missed me, and she couldn't stop

0:37:18.239 --> 0:37:21.560
<v Speaker 7>thinking about me, and she would be calling my phone

0:37:21.640 --> 0:37:23.839
<v Speaker 7>all the time, and it was just how pretty wild?

0:37:23.960 --> 0:37:26.799
<v Speaker 2>So I had how how long into how much? How

0:37:26.840 --> 0:37:30.560
<v Speaker 2>much interaction had you had with this person before she

0:37:30.640 --> 0:37:32.080
<v Speaker 2>started sending you those messages?

0:37:34.000 --> 0:37:37.160
<v Speaker 8>Nothing apart from giving her some numbers for some weird

0:37:37.280 --> 0:37:41.040
<v Speaker 8>because that's the enablest thing to do, you know, bizarre. Okay,

0:37:41.080 --> 0:37:44.800
<v Speaker 8>I keep going, She's telling me that she missed me anyway,

0:37:44.840 --> 0:37:46.839
<v Speaker 8>so I had to tell her to leave me alone, and.

0:37:47.000 --> 0:37:48.600
<v Speaker 7>Like in the end, I had to block that number

0:37:48.600 --> 0:37:50.839
<v Speaker 7>because she just would not take the take the hint.

0:37:52.040 --> 0:37:55.839
<v Speaker 7>And then it slowly started that she was going through

0:37:55.840 --> 0:37:58.600
<v Speaker 7>my mailbox to find all my details, and she found

0:37:58.600 --> 0:38:01.480
<v Speaker 7>on my socials and started added me and following me

0:38:01.560 --> 0:38:03.800
<v Speaker 7>on social and liking all my shit, and when I

0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:07.200
<v Speaker 7>mean like like in like fifty pictures in a row

0:38:07.239 --> 0:38:11.120
<v Speaker 7>at once, And then I would know that she'd been

0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:13.520
<v Speaker 7>going through my mouth because she'd start kissing it and

0:38:13.600 --> 0:38:17.440
<v Speaker 7>leave like lipstick marks on my post. Well unless it

0:38:17.480 --> 0:38:21.080
<v Speaker 7>could have been the postman, but I don't know. I

0:38:21.120 --> 0:38:22.600
<v Speaker 7>don't think so it.

0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:25.000
<v Speaker 2>Could maybe it could have most has a crush on you,

0:38:25.080 --> 0:38:29.560
<v Speaker 2>but she was going through mail and kissing it.

0:38:31.719 --> 0:38:35.520
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, And then so like she started like.

0:38:37.400 --> 0:38:39.600
<v Speaker 7>She started again, and I had to tell her to

0:38:39.800 --> 0:38:41.960
<v Speaker 7>leave me alone. She got a new phone number she

0:38:42.040 --> 0:38:44.799
<v Speaker 7>started texting me from that, and I said, look like

0:38:44.880 --> 0:38:47.880
<v Speaker 7>this isn't cool, man, Like you got to leave me alone.

0:38:47.920 --> 0:38:49.960
<v Speaker 7>And she would like wait for me to leave my

0:38:50.040 --> 0:38:53.160
<v Speaker 7>apartment and start walking down the stairs and then open

0:38:53.280 --> 0:38:55.040
<v Speaker 7>her door to like try and get me in her

0:38:55.080 --> 0:38:58.239
<v Speaker 7>apartment while I was just like leaving for work, and

0:38:58.239 --> 0:39:02.520
<v Speaker 7>I'd be like, you've got to leave alone. So then

0:39:03.200 --> 0:39:04.520
<v Speaker 7>I told her to leave me alone again.

0:39:04.520 --> 0:39:06.120
<v Speaker 8>I have a text just so you've got to stop.

0:39:06.400 --> 0:39:08.000
<v Speaker 8>You just gotta leave me, Like, man, this is weird.

0:39:08.480 --> 0:39:10.560
<v Speaker 7>And I woke up the next day and she'd spray

0:39:10.600 --> 0:39:16.400
<v Speaker 7>painted asshole on my door and there was like I

0:39:16.400 --> 0:39:19.960
<v Speaker 7>had no improof, but like it was definitely her. And

0:39:20.000 --> 0:39:22.920
<v Speaker 7>then as I left the building, I saw on like

0:39:22.960 --> 0:39:24.680
<v Speaker 7>our bin that we have at the end of our

0:39:24.719 --> 0:39:26.320
<v Speaker 7>walkway that she'd.

0:39:26.160 --> 0:39:27.560
<v Speaker 8>Spray painted I Love You.

0:39:29.680 --> 0:39:31.160
<v Speaker 7>And God's spray paint as well.

0:39:32.239 --> 0:39:33.960
<v Speaker 2>So how long ago does all this happen?

0:39:35.800 --> 0:39:40.000
<v Speaker 8>So this has been ongoing for like a year. I

0:39:40.040 --> 0:39:40.319
<v Speaker 8>know that.

0:39:41.920 --> 0:39:45.239
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, So I know that she's suffered from mental health problems,

0:39:45.400 --> 0:39:49.160
<v Speaker 7>Like she's been sectioned three times now, and every time

0:39:49.200 --> 0:39:52.000
<v Speaker 7>that she's sectioned, she calls me up from the hospital

0:39:52.080 --> 0:39:54.719
<v Speaker 7>and she's like because it's an unknown number, I don't

0:39:54.760 --> 0:39:58.080
<v Speaker 7>know who it is, and it'll be like midnight and

0:39:58.120 --> 0:40:01.160
<v Speaker 7>it'll be like, oh, it's so nice to hear your voice,

0:40:01.280 --> 0:40:06.799
<v Speaker 7>like I really miss you. Yeah, So it's kind of

0:40:06.800 --> 0:40:09.000
<v Speaker 7>like weird behavior, but I know she's not well.

0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:13.239
<v Speaker 8>So my problem is is like I don't really want

0:40:13.280 --> 0:40:18.800
<v Speaker 8>to get the police involved, because you know Aca B

0:40:19.000 --> 0:40:21.880
<v Speaker 8>and I feel like they'll probably only make it worse

0:40:22.160 --> 0:40:26.000
<v Speaker 8>or not do what she needs to do.

0:40:26.040 --> 0:40:29.239
<v Speaker 2>Is genuine question. What is it that makes you think

0:40:29.280 --> 0:40:30.640
<v Speaker 2>that the police will only make it worse?

0:40:32.400 --> 0:40:35.240
<v Speaker 7>Because I think if they come round and say something

0:40:35.280 --> 0:40:38.160
<v Speaker 7>to her, I've got no I've got hardly any evidence

0:40:38.160 --> 0:40:40.280
<v Speaker 7>of any of this apart from a few text messages

0:40:40.280 --> 0:40:40.880
<v Speaker 7>and loads.

0:40:40.640 --> 0:40:42.839
<v Speaker 8>Of miss calls, and I don't know a.

0:40:42.800 --> 0:40:45.160
<v Speaker 7>Picture of some lipstick on the letter, you know, I've

0:40:45.160 --> 0:40:47.399
<v Speaker 7>got like no proof that it was her very paint

0:40:47.440 --> 0:40:50.759
<v Speaker 7>at the door. And I just think if they come

0:40:50.880 --> 0:40:52.799
<v Speaker 7>round and turn off at her door and just knock

0:40:52.880 --> 0:40:56.560
<v Speaker 7>on her door and they don't do anything, it will

0:40:56.680 --> 0:40:57.640
<v Speaker 7>just make her lose it.

0:40:58.719 --> 0:40:59.040
<v Speaker 2>Sure.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, you know, she's got these crazy eyes man, Like

0:41:03.120 --> 0:41:05.600
<v Speaker 7>I swear any any of my name, Like my friends

0:41:05.600 --> 0:41:07.479
<v Speaker 7>who come around they know about her. When they see

0:41:07.480 --> 0:41:11.000
<v Speaker 7>her for the first time, they're like, dude, she is

0:41:11.360 --> 0:41:13.160
<v Speaker 7>so fucking scary man.

0:41:14.239 --> 0:41:16.520
<v Speaker 2>So okay, if you're not going to go to the police,

0:41:17.560 --> 0:41:19.399
<v Speaker 2>what other things have you considered doing?

0:41:21.280 --> 0:41:24.160
<v Speaker 7>So, Like, because we are as human that she's like

0:41:24.280 --> 0:41:27.000
<v Speaker 7>on some sort of like watch list or careless now

0:41:27.880 --> 0:41:31.719
<v Speaker 7>so that we have tried speaking to like our social workers, and.

0:41:33.520 --> 0:41:35.360
<v Speaker 2>That's a good idea. That's probably what I would do,

0:41:35.520 --> 0:41:37.520
<v Speaker 2>is is I fuck, I don't know if you can

0:41:37.560 --> 0:41:40.960
<v Speaker 2>get in contact with her social workers or whatever and

0:41:41.040 --> 0:41:43.520
<v Speaker 2>get you know, their advice on it.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, but I mean I think because like the service

0:41:48.680 --> 0:41:52.320
<v Speaker 7>is associate around here, it's like unless they're immediately gonna

0:41:52.400 --> 0:41:55.960
<v Speaker 7>hurt someone or themselves, they don't do anything. So like

0:41:56.080 --> 0:41:59.000
<v Speaker 7>at the moment, she's going through this obsessive phase. This

0:41:59.120 --> 0:42:01.160
<v Speaker 7>is the other thing that she does. She get obsessed

0:42:01.160 --> 0:42:05.719
<v Speaker 7>with these random theories and she thinks that someone is

0:42:05.800 --> 0:42:10.600
<v Speaker 7>repeatedly breaking into her apartment and pissing in her purse

0:42:11.520 --> 0:42:15.040
<v Speaker 7>and then just like leaving her apartment, and she thinks

0:42:15.040 --> 0:42:21.520
<v Speaker 7>that this is like an ongoing Well, no, that's the thing.

0:42:21.600 --> 0:42:23.200
<v Speaker 7>So then she knocked on my door the other day.

0:42:23.239 --> 0:42:25.560
<v Speaker 7>She was knocking for about an hour and I was like, finally,

0:42:25.600 --> 0:42:27.520
<v Speaker 7>like fuck me, my dogs are going crazy.

0:42:28.080 --> 0:42:29.040
<v Speaker 1>I was like, what is up?

0:42:29.040 --> 0:42:33.200
<v Speaker 7>And she's like, can you smell this? And she had

0:42:33.239 --> 0:42:35.520
<v Speaker 7>like a carrier bag with her person and she was

0:42:35.560 --> 0:42:37.279
<v Speaker 7>tied up and she undid it and she sort of

0:42:37.280 --> 0:42:39.640
<v Speaker 7>held it up to me to smell him for the bag,

0:42:40.560 --> 0:42:43.040
<v Speaker 7>and I was like, yeah, man, I'm down, like the bag,

0:42:43.080 --> 0:42:45.480
<v Speaker 7>I don't know. So I smell it and it just

0:42:45.520 --> 0:42:48.480
<v Speaker 7>smells like nothing. And she's like, can you smell that?

0:42:48.640 --> 0:42:51.919
<v Speaker 7>Isn't that disgusting? And her eyes are like well enough,

0:42:51.960 --> 0:42:55.040
<v Speaker 7>and I'm like, it doesn't smell anything. She's like, someone

0:42:55.239 --> 0:42:58.360
<v Speaker 7>has pissed into my purse again, and they keep coming

0:42:58.400 --> 0:43:03.640
<v Speaker 7>in and doing this. So yeah, man, I just never

0:43:03.680 --> 0:43:05.640
<v Speaker 7>know what I'm going to open my door to these days,

0:43:05.719 --> 0:43:07.799
<v Speaker 7>you know, when I come home from work or when

0:43:07.800 --> 0:43:09.120
<v Speaker 7>I leave in the morning.

0:43:09.360 --> 0:43:11.800
<v Speaker 2>I just's gonna be I mean, Sam, I gotta I mean, listen,

0:43:11.800 --> 0:43:13.520
<v Speaker 2>I got a couple of things that I'm thinking about.

0:43:13.640 --> 0:43:18.120
<v Speaker 2>Is I mean one, Okay, you're social The social worker said,

0:43:18.160 --> 0:43:20.080
<v Speaker 2>you can't really do anything unless if you know that

0:43:20.120 --> 0:43:23.919
<v Speaker 2>this person has intent to harm anyone else or harm

0:43:23.960 --> 0:43:28.040
<v Speaker 2>herself at a certain point. And I don't know, I'm

0:43:28.040 --> 0:43:30.920
<v Speaker 2>not a lawyer or a social worker or anything, but

0:43:31.719 --> 0:43:35.279
<v Speaker 2>at a certain point, do you do you not have

0:43:35.440 --> 0:43:39.960
<v Speaker 2>enough evidence or could compile enough evidence to go and

0:43:40.000 --> 0:43:44.280
<v Speaker 2>say I have reasonable belief that this person might attempt

0:43:44.280 --> 0:43:44.759
<v Speaker 2>to hurt me.

0:43:47.880 --> 0:43:50.040
<v Speaker 7>I mean I do, but I mean I just feel

0:43:50.080 --> 0:43:54.000
<v Speaker 7>like that there's not that much aggression in what she's

0:43:54.040 --> 0:43:56.160
<v Speaker 7>got apart from asshole on my door. But see that's

0:43:56.239 --> 0:43:58.839
<v Speaker 7>kind of I mean, that's kind of aggressive, isn't it.

0:43:59.400 --> 0:44:03.200
<v Speaker 7>Like see the rest of it's just mental. It's just

0:44:03.239 --> 0:44:05.640
<v Speaker 7>like wild behavior, you know, like how.

0:44:10.080 --> 0:44:12.040
<v Speaker 2>Much left do you have left on how much more

0:44:12.040 --> 0:44:13.239
<v Speaker 2>time do you have left on that least?

0:44:15.640 --> 0:44:18.360
<v Speaker 7>Oh? Man, I don't like four months?

0:44:18.760 --> 0:44:19.840
<v Speaker 2>How do you feel that booking it?

0:44:21.920 --> 0:44:23.400
<v Speaker 8>Yeah? Maybe you're right, man.

0:44:24.160 --> 0:44:26.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean I hate that. I I you know, I

0:44:26.239 --> 0:44:28.120
<v Speaker 2>hate that answer. I'm not saying it's the right answer.

0:44:28.200 --> 0:44:30.319
<v Speaker 2>I hate it because I don't think that, you know,

0:44:31.239 --> 0:44:35.120
<v Speaker 2>part you should let a person who is threatening you

0:44:36.680 --> 0:44:39.160
<v Speaker 2>or or causing you to feel unsafe. I don't think

0:44:39.320 --> 0:44:43.239
<v Speaker 2>you should, you know, vacate and let them win. But

0:44:43.320 --> 0:44:46.520
<v Speaker 2>also I think the idea of quote letting them win

0:44:46.640 --> 0:44:48.439
<v Speaker 2>is stupid and you should just do whatever is best

0:44:48.440 --> 0:44:48.719
<v Speaker 2>for you.

0:44:50.960 --> 0:44:52.800
<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

0:44:52.960 --> 0:44:55.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, if I were you, man, I would

0:44:55.239 --> 0:44:57.920
<v Speaker 2>just collect as much evidence as you can to you know,

0:44:58.719 --> 0:45:02.920
<v Speaker 2>make a compelling case to any kind of you know,

0:45:03.160 --> 0:45:08.080
<v Speaker 2>social or whatever police authority that you feel unsafe.

0:45:09.719 --> 0:45:12.120
<v Speaker 7>Maybe I should you know those Teddy bears where they

0:45:12.120 --> 0:45:16.120
<v Speaker 7>put the cameras in the eyes. Sure, I confession something

0:45:16.200 --> 0:45:16.600
<v Speaker 7>like that.

0:45:17.560 --> 0:45:20.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, I feel like that would be illegal on your part,

0:45:20.680 --> 0:45:22.880
<v Speaker 2>so I would avoid the teddy bear with the camera.

0:45:23.000 --> 0:45:28.120
<v Speaker 7>But I liked how when you were listening to me

0:45:28.200 --> 0:45:30.120
<v Speaker 7>for the most your eyes closed, by the.

0:45:30.120 --> 0:45:32.760
<v Speaker 2>Way I do people who are listening on the podcast.

0:45:32.760 --> 0:45:34.320
<v Speaker 2>Can I see this? But I have my eyes closed

0:45:34.320 --> 0:45:38.240
<v Speaker 2>because I I think I'm like partially blind right now,

0:45:38.719 --> 0:45:41.320
<v Speaker 2>and so I'm seeing if I close my eyes return,

0:45:41.680 --> 0:45:42.640
<v Speaker 2>so we'll see, we'll see.

0:45:42.680 --> 0:45:45.440
<v Speaker 7>But I was thinking, maybe you're imagining what I look like.

0:45:45.520 --> 0:45:47.200
<v Speaker 7>And then I was like, what does he imagine that

0:45:47.280 --> 0:45:47.799
<v Speaker 7>I look like?

0:45:48.600 --> 0:45:50.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm imagining what you look like right now?

0:45:50.080 --> 0:45:53.040
<v Speaker 8>Actually tell her?

0:45:53.080 --> 0:45:55.239
<v Speaker 2>Have I got blonde?

0:45:56.960 --> 0:45:57.600
<v Speaker 5>Oh shit?

0:45:59.520 --> 0:46:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Are you blinde?

0:46:00.120 --> 0:46:00.480
<v Speaker 8>Oh?

0:46:00.480 --> 0:46:03.680
<v Speaker 7>Man, you're fucking You're fucking well, dude, Yeah, I'm blown. Man,

0:46:03.719 --> 0:46:04.680
<v Speaker 7>that's crazy.

0:46:04.800 --> 0:46:07.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm secretly working together with your next door neighbor to

0:46:07.520 --> 0:46:07.920
<v Speaker 2>stalk you.

0:46:10.280 --> 0:46:10.959
<v Speaker 8>Is it you piss?

0:46:12.040 --> 0:46:21.440
<v Speaker 2>It's messing in her purse, Yeph was Sam. Well, I'm

0:46:21.440 --> 0:46:23.399
<v Speaker 2>sorry here. I I I am of no help because

0:46:23.440 --> 0:46:26.720
<v Speaker 2>I have no authority in the u State of London

0:46:26.920 --> 0:46:29.799
<v Speaker 2>or in any state of any kind. But I hope

0:46:29.800 --> 0:46:32.240
<v Speaker 2>that you find some way to mitigate the situation.

0:46:34.320 --> 0:46:36.320
<v Speaker 7>Thank you, man, I appreciate I just wanted to say.

0:46:36.160 --> 0:46:38.720
<v Speaker 8>As well, I've just felt at a therapy.

0:46:38.320 --> 0:46:41.000
<v Speaker 7>Degree and you were fifteen percent of the breeding to

0:46:41.040 --> 0:46:41.960
<v Speaker 7>me doing that, man.

0:46:41.840 --> 0:46:46.200
<v Speaker 2>So fifteen percent. I'll take fifteen percent.

0:46:48.000 --> 0:46:50.280
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I think that's pretty good. Like that's me being.

0:46:50.120 --> 0:46:54.160
<v Speaker 2>Honest, you know, No, I'm glad. I no, No, fifteen percent

0:46:54.239 --> 0:46:56.120
<v Speaker 2>is great because if you told me I was the

0:46:56.120 --> 0:47:01.560
<v Speaker 2>sole reason, I'd be like, I'd be concerned. But fifteen I.

0:47:01.560 --> 0:47:04.319
<v Speaker 7>Don't want to lie to you either, and you're not.

0:47:04.560 --> 0:47:06.480
<v Speaker 7>But thank you, man, I have the best evening.

0:47:07.160 --> 0:47:08.760
<v Speaker 2>Hey you for the people.

0:47:08.760 --> 0:47:11.200
<v Speaker 7>I just want to say, Maroon Five's first album was

0:47:11.200 --> 0:47:12.279
<v Speaker 7>fucking so good.

0:47:12.400 --> 0:47:16.759
<v Speaker 8>So I don't know what happened. Goodbye, Thank you can later.

0:47:17.040 --> 0:47:20.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't know anything about maroon five, but I don't

0:47:20.239 --> 0:47:27.839
<v Speaker 2>know whatever, Sam says, I I second blindly Hello, Hello, Hi?

0:47:27.960 --> 0:47:28.720
<v Speaker 2>Is this Kylie?

0:47:30.600 --> 0:47:30.880
<v Speaker 5>Yes?

0:47:31.920 --> 0:47:32.439
<v Speaker 2>What's up?

0:47:33.280 --> 0:47:33.959
<v Speaker 5>Nothing much?

0:47:35.120 --> 0:47:36.160
<v Speaker 2>What are you? What are you doing?

0:47:38.880 --> 0:47:43.280
<v Speaker 5>I'm just chilling on my bed watching a live stream

0:47:43.360 --> 0:47:44.120
<v Speaker 5>of a gecko?

0:47:45.440 --> 0:47:52.440
<v Speaker 2>What that's that's that's that sounds stupid? A live stream

0:47:52.480 --> 0:47:57.240
<v Speaker 2>of a gecko? We what even is that? What's what's up? Kylie?

0:47:57.320 --> 0:48:00.440
<v Speaker 2>What's is there anything in particular you called in to

0:48:01.080 --> 0:48:06.120
<v Speaker 2>chat about.

0:48:05.840 --> 0:48:06.240
<v Speaker 4>Preull.

0:48:06.280 --> 0:48:09.080
<v Speaker 5>I didn't think I was gonna be able to talk

0:48:09.120 --> 0:48:15.359
<v Speaker 5>to you. So there's so many I am, You're right here,

0:48:15.520 --> 0:48:17.000
<v Speaker 5>you are, you are right now.

0:48:17.160 --> 0:48:22.400
<v Speaker 2>Feel your breath, feel your your your hands, feel your eyes,

0:48:22.600 --> 0:48:26.560
<v Speaker 2>your nose, your mouth. You're alive in the universe. I

0:48:26.600 --> 0:48:32.000
<v Speaker 2>mean billions of years, Kylie, billions and billions and billions

0:48:32.040 --> 0:48:35.920
<v Speaker 2>and billions of years in the past. You are not around.

0:48:36.040 --> 0:48:38.840
<v Speaker 2>In the future, you will be dead. You won't be around.

0:48:38.920 --> 0:48:45.200
<v Speaker 2>And we're living in the thinnest possible microscopic margin of

0:48:45.320 --> 0:48:49.680
<v Speaker 2>time in which you exist, in which I exist, and

0:48:49.760 --> 0:48:53.040
<v Speaker 2>where we both are living in this time together. I'm

0:48:53.040 --> 0:48:58.000
<v Speaker 2>feeling the camaraderie with everyone who can fucking hear my

0:48:58.120 --> 0:49:01.279
<v Speaker 2>voice right now with you about about living in this

0:49:01.400 --> 0:49:06.000
<v Speaker 2>margin together? What a crazy thing? What's up with you?

0:49:06.200 --> 0:49:09.600
<v Speaker 2>What is there? Is there anything you wanted to talk about?

0:49:09.640 --> 0:49:12.799
<v Speaker 2>I mean, how are you feeling this? Let's let's let's

0:49:12.840 --> 0:49:13.920
<v Speaker 2>talk about stuff.

0:49:15.920 --> 0:49:18.719
<v Speaker 5>Well, I've been a little bit stressed lately. Tell me

0:49:18.760 --> 0:49:22.440
<v Speaker 5>what I just Well, I just bought a new car

0:49:23.280 --> 0:49:29.320
<v Speaker 5>and it was this whole situation. It fucking ridiculous, first

0:49:29.320 --> 0:49:37.319
<v Speaker 5>of all, and so it's just really stressful. So I

0:49:37.400 --> 0:49:39.080
<v Speaker 5>went to a car dealership because I wanted to get

0:49:39.120 --> 0:49:40.759
<v Speaker 5>a new car. I wanted like a four x four,

0:49:40.840 --> 0:49:43.520
<v Speaker 5>like a I will drive, but like that kind of car.

0:49:44.719 --> 0:49:48.560
<v Speaker 5>I went to a dealership and they tried to sell

0:49:48.600 --> 0:49:50.880
<v Speaker 5>me this one car, and I bought it, and then

0:49:51.480 --> 0:49:55.840
<v Speaker 5>but the bank didn't approve it, so I kind of

0:49:55.880 --> 0:49:57.920
<v Speaker 5>get the car. They needed a co sign there. My

0:49:58.000 --> 0:50:00.759
<v Speaker 5>dad wanted to co sign for me, So then I

0:50:00.800 --> 0:50:02.960
<v Speaker 5>was looking around at different places to find this tight

0:50:03.200 --> 0:50:06.360
<v Speaker 5>kind of car. And then but then the dealership was

0:50:06.360 --> 0:50:10.680
<v Speaker 5>trying to sell me like cars like regularly, like sedans

0:50:10.719 --> 0:50:18.440
<v Speaker 5>and stuff like that, and I was like, uh, they

0:50:18.480 --> 0:50:20.200
<v Speaker 5>tried to sell me this one car, and I was like,

0:50:20.320 --> 0:50:23.759
<v Speaker 5>I haven't even seen it and I haven't even tested you.

0:50:23.920 --> 0:50:26.919
<v Speaker 2>I have here the of of of what you told

0:50:26.920 --> 0:50:28.560
<v Speaker 2>the call screen or do you wanted to talk about

0:50:28.560 --> 0:50:29.839
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you don't want to talk about

0:50:29.840 --> 0:50:30.400
<v Speaker 2>that anymore.

0:50:32.440 --> 0:50:35.120
<v Speaker 5>Oh no I do. I just was saying that this

0:50:35.280 --> 0:50:37.920
<v Speaker 5>was stressing me out for the past a couple of times.

0:50:38.239 --> 0:50:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, I'm sorry, I mean to cut you off.

0:50:41.920 --> 0:50:45.200
<v Speaker 5>No, you're good. No, it was just like they tried

0:50:45.200 --> 0:50:46.799
<v Speaker 5>to sell my car and then I made a bad

0:50:46.840 --> 0:50:48.160
<v Speaker 5>decision and bought the car.

0:50:48.000 --> 0:50:49.440
<v Speaker 7>And then now I'm kind of stuck with it.

0:50:49.520 --> 0:50:51.320
<v Speaker 5>So that's like the moral of the story.

0:50:52.360 --> 0:50:55.640
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's better than what, it's not better than Sometimes

0:50:55.680 --> 0:50:58.759
<v Speaker 2>I like I like walking, but I like driving to

0:50:58.800 --> 0:51:00.960
<v Speaker 2>Actually that's not sure. I don't driving. I've been watching

0:51:01.000 --> 0:51:04.799
<v Speaker 2>a lot of videos of car accidents on Reddit. Well,

0:51:04.920 --> 0:51:06.759
<v Speaker 2>you know what, Kylie, what did you want to talk

0:51:06.760 --> 0:51:10.000
<v Speaker 2>about today? Let's I'm done with cars, I'm done with myself,

0:51:10.040 --> 0:51:13.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm done with anything. Just let's talk about stuff.

0:51:13.840 --> 0:51:18.400
<v Speaker 5>Oh okay, okay. So I have this tool worker at

0:51:18.440 --> 0:51:23.120
<v Speaker 5>work and he's like, what like fifty four or fifty

0:51:23.120 --> 0:51:25.759
<v Speaker 5>five okay, and I have I think I have a

0:51:25.760 --> 0:51:27.680
<v Speaker 5>crush on him. Okay, I'm twenty four.

0:51:28.920 --> 0:51:29.280
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

0:51:29.680 --> 0:51:33.040
<v Speaker 5>I don't know what to do because he was like

0:51:33.080 --> 0:51:37.160
<v Speaker 5>at one point he was like he like asked me

0:51:37.239 --> 0:51:39.440
<v Speaker 5>if like I signed him attractive or something like that.

0:51:39.560 --> 0:51:42.800
<v Speaker 4>I was like no, And then later on I'm.

0:51:42.680 --> 0:51:49.640
<v Speaker 6>Like, yeah, So I'm a little in a pickle, and

0:51:50.840 --> 0:51:53.680
<v Speaker 6>but I don't know if I would ask him out

0:51:53.960 --> 0:51:57.360
<v Speaker 6>or not, because I haven't decided if I actually like

0:51:57.440 --> 0:51:57.839
<v Speaker 6>him or not.

0:51:57.920 --> 0:52:01.560
<v Speaker 5>So I'm kind of like, oh, what do you.

0:52:02.200 --> 0:52:03.120
<v Speaker 2>Want to do?

0:52:02.960 --> 0:52:03.360
<v Speaker 1>What do you what?

0:52:03.400 --> 0:52:04.239
<v Speaker 2>Do you want to do?

0:52:07.400 --> 0:52:16.879
<v Speaker 5>I don't know. He he's really cool. And I think

0:52:16.920 --> 0:52:19.600
<v Speaker 5>I had a crush on one of my old coworkers.

0:52:19.680 --> 0:52:23.960
<v Speaker 5>He was forty five, okay, and I asked him out

0:52:23.960 --> 0:52:30.360
<v Speaker 5>and he said no. And then my ex was thirty. No, yeah, thirty.

0:52:31.520 --> 0:52:33.280
<v Speaker 5>So like I guess I have a thing for older

0:52:33.320 --> 0:52:35.600
<v Speaker 5>guys or something like that. So like maybe it's like

0:52:35.680 --> 0:52:38.040
<v Speaker 5>the age, so like he's really cool, you know.

0:52:39.520 --> 0:52:44.400
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well you said you're twenty four, right, yeah, okay,

0:52:44.520 --> 0:52:47.200
<v Speaker 2>you're twenty four. I'm twenty four as well. I feel

0:52:47.239 --> 0:52:51.480
<v Speaker 2>like at twenty four you uh you. I mean, look,

0:52:51.520 --> 0:52:55.880
<v Speaker 2>you can do whatever you want with your life, you know,

0:52:56.040 --> 0:52:59.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean what what are you? What? Where is where

0:52:59.760 --> 0:53:03.080
<v Speaker 2>I want to know for you? In your brain and

0:53:03.120 --> 0:53:11.600
<v Speaker 2>your thought processes. Where the conflict comes from?

0:53:11.640 --> 0:53:14.640
<v Speaker 5>Well, I think I have a little bit of daddy issues,

0:53:15.360 --> 0:53:24.720
<v Speaker 5>So I I think I have a thing for older men, right,

0:53:24.800 --> 0:53:28.000
<v Speaker 5>And so the conflict is is that it's like while

0:53:28.040 --> 0:53:33.640
<v Speaker 5>I'm so young, and he obviously like jokes about he

0:53:33.760 --> 0:53:35.920
<v Speaker 5>jokes about like how young I am all the time,

0:53:36.040 --> 0:53:37.799
<v Speaker 5>and like all this other kind of stuff is like

0:53:38.719 --> 0:53:45.160
<v Speaker 5>would he even like me like that? Because I'm so young?

0:53:46.800 --> 0:53:49.520
<v Speaker 5>You know, and so there's that, and then you're like

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<v Speaker 5>the typical like I don't like myself type of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I mean I mean hold on, stop, stop, stop,

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<v Speaker 2>stop right there. And you said, do you you do

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<v Speaker 2>you feel as though? You said, you feel as though

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<v Speaker 2>you don't like yourself? Yeah, and you feel as do

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<v Speaker 2>you feel as though that is like having an effect

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<v Speaker 2>on the decisions you make? Is you navigate the relationships

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<v Speaker 2>in your life?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh definitely?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I mean listen, yeah, the relationships are hard at

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<v Speaker 2>fucking age or amount of fucking thrupple or gender or

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<v Speaker 2>any of that stuff. Throw every throw it all out

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<v Speaker 2>the window for a second here. Fucking relationships are tough

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<v Speaker 2>to navigate. And with any of the relationships stuff is about,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if you have this thing that's going going

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<v Speaker 2>on with you, and I don't know, I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to tell you how to live your life, but if

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<v Speaker 2>you have a thing that's going on with you, I

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<v Speaker 2>would i'd hope that you are prioritizing dealing with with

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<v Speaker 2>that before you, uh, you know, focus on your engagements

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<v Speaker 2>with other people. Does that make sense? Is it? Is

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<v Speaker 2>it valid? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>It's the you know, love yourself before you you can.

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<v Speaker 5>You have to love yourself before you can love others.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, right, yeah, of course, of course do you Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>So I no, go ahead, and go ahead, I'm interrupting you.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I was just gonna say, and I and I

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<v Speaker 5>agree with that, But I also feel like you don't

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<v Speaker 5>have to love you don't have to love yourself to

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<v Speaker 5>love someone at the same time, because you can love

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<v Speaker 5>anybody you want if you don't love yourself, you know, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent, I think you should go and do

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<v Speaker 2>whatever you want. Well, let's talk about this, okay. You

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<v Speaker 2>said that you feel as though you not liking yourself

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<v Speaker 2>influences the way you navigate relationships. Why why do you

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<v Speaker 2>think that is or in what way do you think

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<v Speaker 2>it affects navigate it affects how you navigate relationships?

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<v Speaker 5>I think mostly for me is that I just don't

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<v Speaker 5>believe that anyone could ever love me for me, you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>and I there's that, and I just so like when

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<v Speaker 5>it's such a comes up, like if someone's angry at

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<v Speaker 5>me or something like that, I have a really hard

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<v Speaker 5>time with confrontations.

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<v Speaker 3>So like.

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<v Speaker 5>Navigating through a relationship, trying to build that relationship with someone,

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<v Speaker 5>I always go for the like I always go for

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<v Speaker 5>the what I'm what's what I'm looking for?

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<v Speaker 4>The combination or the I can't think of the word

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<v Speaker 4>is it.

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<v Speaker 2>Or is it? Are you looking for the thing that?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, I can't think hold on, Are you looking

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<v Speaker 2>for the because you said that you feel as though

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<v Speaker 2>people can't just love you for you? Are you looking

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<v Speaker 2>for like the thing that they like you for?

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<v Speaker 8>No?

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<v Speaker 5>Not necessarily, because like I talk about this in therapy with.

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<v Speaker 3>My therapist, but the I know, like I know that

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<v Speaker 3>I'm beautiful and amazing and kind and.

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<v Speaker 5>All those great things, but like I don't feel like that,

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<v Speaker 5>So like trying to like navigate that relationship of like, well,

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like this, but I know that they do

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<v Speaker 5>love me for me, but like I feel like they don't.

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<v Speaker 5>So like are feelings or our thoughts more important? Like

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<v Speaker 5>which one is better?

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<v Speaker 7>Like which one?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 4>Which one do you go for?

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<v Speaker 5>It's like that kind of like toss up of like

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<v Speaker 5>which one is more important to you as a person?

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<v Speaker 2>And yes, so I mean look back to the central

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<v Speaker 2>issue that you you started with, which is not actually

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<v Speaker 2>the central issue, but just the issue that you started

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<v Speaker 2>with of whether or not you want to get involved

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<v Speaker 2>with this guy. Do you feel as though your journey

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<v Speaker 2>toward uh, trying to to not hate yourself will be aided, impeded,

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<v Speaker 2>or unrelated indifference to you pursuing something with this guy.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh, I know that he would treat me right as

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<v Speaker 5>a person.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, you listen, listen. You don't have to,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have to, you don't have to come up,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have to come up with an answer to

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<v Speaker 2>that right now. But I think that, oh, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if you're sitting here, you say you're in

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<v Speaker 2>a pickle. I think that that's the question as you're

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<v Speaker 2>navigating your pickle, uh, to think about.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, is it really like such a big deal?

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<v Speaker 5>You know, because like, but it is, but like it

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<v Speaker 5>isn't at the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Time, like, well, I mean, you you have your own

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<v Speaker 2>there's no right or wrong answer to any of this stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>whether or not's a big I mean, you decide whether

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<v Speaker 2>or not it's a big deal. I would if I

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<v Speaker 2>and here's I'll say this, I would take I would

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<v Speaker 2>really take any peripheral societal thoughts away for a second

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<v Speaker 2>and just think about what you believe is best for

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<v Speaker 2>you in your life. And also what I whatever your

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<v Speaker 2>therapist said, because I'm curious about that. What did your

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<v Speaker 2>therapists say about all this?

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<v Speaker 5>I actually haven't told her, Okay, so she she actually

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't know. Because the last time that we were talking,

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<v Speaker 5>we were talking about about my car situation and how

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<v Speaker 5>that made me feel.

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<v Speaker 2>And you did talk a lot about a car. I

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<v Speaker 2>do remember that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's really not that interesting, but at the time

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<v Speaker 5>it was very stressful, you know. But and then we

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<v Speaker 5>got talking about some things that happened to me in

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<v Speaker 5>my past and like pretty deep things, and yeah, it

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<v Speaker 5>was just I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Know if you want to talk about this, but or

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<v Speaker 2>is it a car thing? I kind of I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of have to move on. But no, is there anything

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<v Speaker 2>else you want to say with the people of the

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<v Speaker 2>computer before we go.

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<v Speaker 5>Anything?

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<v Speaker 4>I want to see the computer?

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<v Speaker 5>You people, You should definitely try to be kind to people,

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<v Speaker 5>even if they're mean to you, at least philosophy.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that. I like that, you know, being being

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<v Speaker 2>kind when it's hard. I like that. Yeah, thank you

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<v Speaker 2>very much for calling Kylie. I hope that you uh

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<v Speaker 2>figure out what to do.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you Lyle for your time. I really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 5>I have a good one, you too, all right bye.

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<v Speaker 2>On this stream, we talked to people and with their

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<v Speaker 2>people in thrupples, people and people in relationships of you

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<v Speaker 2>know whatever, straight relationships, gay relationships for the age, whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>relations relationships with four people in them, or any kind

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<v Speaker 2>of any relationship of any case. It's all complicated, tough

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<v Speaker 2>to navigate, and and I don't know, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>I know how I feel. I'm no expert on any

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<v Speaker 2>of that stuff. Uh well, people, one thing I'm learning

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<v Speaker 2>from all all these calls have taken over these people

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<v Speaker 2>that it's just it's a it's like maybe the most

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<v Speaker 2>common topic that people have there's navigating relationships. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>talking about it anymore. Goes on the line taking your

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<v Speaker 2>phone calls every night, ever, goes to is teaching you cloudy?

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<v Speaker 2>Not really an expert