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Speaker 2: Uh? Tybee? What's what's up? Dude? How is life?

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Speaker 1: You have? You just caught me at the perfect time?

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Speaker 1: I just finished I just finished the most cathartic yoga session,

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Speaker 2: It must have been the universe working its magic on you.

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Speaker 1: I swear it was the fruit snacks.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I so you here's what the call screen I

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Speaker 2: uh I looked at it and it's it. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: YEA clear up?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna say, Can I tell can? I?

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Speaker 2: Okay? Tevy thirty years old from Colorado. It says here

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Speaker 2: that you started living your best life once you made

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Speaker 1: But you like kind of explain it. It's not like

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Speaker 2: Okay, so let's go real slowly on this. You built

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Speaker 1: It's made me take care of myself. It's made me

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Speaker 1: I've been able to save money for the first time

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Speaker 2: So to summarize where we are at so far, you

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Speaker 2: it is that created you, and your desire to honor

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're so conciseed.

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Speaker 2: Wow, we did it. You know. We started out this

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Speaker 2: Okay, so let me ask you this, Uh where does

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Speaker 1: that I make out of Milly Clay. I do Milly

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Speaker 1: I do strongly believe in them, like a Karmix cycle.

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Speaker 2: So so, Tbby, tell me before we go, this has

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Speaker 1: Any visions? Well, right now, I'm working on an Avatar,

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Speaker 1: the Last Airbender Millie series and uh.

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Speaker 2: Oh, like literally the best show.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I'm deriving like lessons than learning from each

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Speaker 1: me I almost forgot what the hell? Okay, did you

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Speaker 2: You sent me a drawing?

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Speaker 1: Yah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all the ship that was you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah it's me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah I did get that.

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Speaker 1: Hell yeah, fucking.

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Speaker 2: Fuck damn, yeah, I did get that. It's it's it's

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Speaker 2: well ship, what's your name again? Tebby?

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Speaker 1: Uh I'm Tybee.

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Speaker 2: Tybee well Tyby. Thank you first for sending me that.

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Speaker 1: You go by what no doubt. Thank you for doing

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Speaker 2: Do you have for people who are interested in you

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Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah, I only have an Instagram. It's it's meta

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Speaker 1: pilot M E D A H P E I one

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Speaker 1: three seven. Yeah, check me out if you want to

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Speaker 2: Uh, Tybee? Anything else? Any final words for the people

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Speaker 1: Try tbd out.

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Speaker 2: Perfect, simple, clean, efficient? Uh, good luck to you, Tyby.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much for calling.

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Speaker 1: Thank you Lyle Geck Nations plus.

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Speaker 2: Well. That was fascinating. I love calls like that, where

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna pick for this show. Anytime I see something

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Speaker 2: was fascinating. I don't know what my own. You know.

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Speaker 2: It's it's interesting because it comes off as like bizarre

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, obviously that method of living a better

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Speaker 2: is for talking to that guy. To me is further

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Speaker 2: you for calling. I think you're again for that drawing

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Speaker 2: that shit is sick? Hello? Is this Morgan? This?

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Speaker 4: This is her?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 2: What's what's going on with you? Morgan? What are you

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna like I just got done having a

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Speaker 4: little bit of a menty breakdown.

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Speaker 2: A mental breaky. Okay, yeah, just like a.

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Speaker 4: Little break everyone's got to break every once in a while.

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Speaker 2: I fully agree. I think the the human capacity for

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Speaker 2: a MENTI break ye every every now and then. Absolutely

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Speaker 4: So today, specifically, what I what I kind of called

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Speaker 4: I know you always say like after five minutes, I'll

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, it's just the phone. It's just the phone.

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Speaker 2: It's not even real.

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Speaker 4: It's just a phone. Well, listen, I've tried to call

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Speaker 2: Oh hell yeah, I'm glad you had. What did you

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Speaker 2: think of the show?

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Speaker 4: It was great that woman sat on a cake, but

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Speaker 2: Of fucking okay, yeah that was fun. Well, I'm glad

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Speaker 4: Oh yes, yes, I did see her sit on a

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Speaker 2: So what is uh, what is driving your mental breakdown?

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Speaker 4: So do you ever feel like, I want to call

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Speaker 4: it imposter syndrome kind of, but like you ever feel

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Speaker 4: like your actions don't really like, I don't know, match

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Speaker 4: and they all seem to like love me, like think

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Speaker 4: I'm great, you know what I mean. I'm not trying

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Speaker 4: to like suck my own dick or.

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Speaker 2: Anything, but like, sure, suck your own deck all you want.

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Speaker 4: They all appreciate what I do, I guess, and I

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Speaker 2: That's great.

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Speaker 4: But sometimes like I feel like I'm not actually nice.

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Speaker 2: Hmmm, Like okay, so your thoughts can I well, it

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Speaker 4: Well that's pretty serious, Like, yeah, I do.

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Speaker 6: But it's just like.

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Speaker 4: It hurts my heart sometimes and the place is sad,

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Speaker 4: Like, because I get so mad, like not at them,

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Speaker 2: A little okay, So I'm gonna let's get all right,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna go We're gonna we're gonna go here real quick.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna go here real quick. All right. So you,

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Speaker 2: So you're with this patient who has dementia and you're

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Speaker 2: you become annoyed. But no, but here's the thing. But

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Speaker 2: here's the beautiful thing is you? Is it? Actually? I

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Speaker 2: It makes it even more beautiful because you're putting it

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Speaker 2: all aside to help them. You know, you're not letting

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Speaker 2: have the it silenced to me at least, like you

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Speaker 2: have this conveyor belt system where the annoyance comes to

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Speaker 2: shouldn't feel bad about it. You should feel you're you're

439
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 2: doing a good thing. You're not letting your gut reaction

440
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 2: dictate You're not letting your gut thoughts dictate your actions

441
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 2: as part of being a human.

442
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I couldn't.

443
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,239
Speaker 2: I would leave there immediately and I would cuss them

444
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,719
Speaker 2: all out on my way out. You know.

445
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 4: Sometimes I do just get in my car and like

446
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 4: I just dream, like I don't even bother pulling out

447
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 4: of the parking lot. I'm just like streaming in there,

448
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 4: and you know what, That's fine.

449
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 2: But it is fine. You deserve it, you know more,

450
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 2: and your your car screams are deserved. Okay, car screams

451
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 2: are because you're you're like, it's it's the courtesy of like,

452
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 2: let's say you're on You're hanging out with a bunch

453
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 2: of people and you really have to fart, and you

454
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 2: know that your fart's so horrible and so but now,

455
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 2: but for the courtesy of those people, you don't fart,

456
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 2: and then you go into your car and then you

457
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 2: fart all you want. That was the courteous thing of

458
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 2: you to do. You know the fact that you had

459
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 2: to fart. There's no evil in that, it's just what

460
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 2: was going.

461
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 4: On with you. That's an amazing analogy.

462
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 2: So I I think as long as you're not letting

463
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 2: your annoyance cause you to lash out at elderly dimension

464
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 2: dementia patients, which I don't think it is. I think

465
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 2: you're doing.

466
00:28:53,040 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, yeah, I just you know, I feel like

467
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 4: like anger is a really weird thing that I think

468
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 4: about a lot because I feel like I've had so

469
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 4: much forever. It's just like balled up inside of me.

470
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 4: But like I've always tried to be like nice. So

471
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 4: it's like, am I actually nice? Or am I just

472
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 4: trying to like cover up the fact that I'm like

473
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 4: pissed off all the time, like a like an angsty teenager.

474
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 2: Like I'm what what what other? What other things are

475
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 2: you angry about?

476
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 4: I get angry at my roommate a lot.

477
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 2: Okay, what about.

478
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 4: Well, like she bought a new vacuum. I have a vacuum, right,

479
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 4: We have a vacuum that we use. It kind of sucks.

480
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 4: It's a shitty vacuum, but I bought it right first

481
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 4: time ever moving out, And she bought a new vacuum

482
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 4: this week. And then I come home and my vacuums

483
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 4: like on the curb, by the by the trash be

484
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 4: thrown away vacuum. She threw out my vacuum without asking me.

485
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 2: Did you Did you say anything to her?

486
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 4: I said, I texted her and I said, because she's

487
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 4: at work, and I said, hey, if you're gonna throw

488
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 4: out something that's that's mine, could you just ask? And

489
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 4: then she just read it like we just left me

490
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 4: on red?

491
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 2: So oh, well, you know, Morgan, You're doing the best

492
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 2: you can, I think. Can I tell you one I'm

493
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 2: gonna tell you one thing before we go. I hope

494
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 2: you're not don't get two in your head about whether

495
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 2: or not you are a good person or a bad

496
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 2: person as like a general overall label. I don't think

497
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 2: that ship is real. You're doing the best you can

498
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 2: out there, controlling your angry thoughts and uh transmuting them

499
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 2: into productive actions. I think I'm smart.

500
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 4: Holding in a fart until I get to.

501
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 2: The car or who else are you with? Are you

502
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 2: with anyone?

503
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 4: I'm meant like.

504
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 2: Metaphors metaphors, metaphor, metaphor, I'm holding I am I am

505
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 2: also holding in a far but mine is not metaphorical.

506
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 2: Mine is very, very.

507
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 4: Real, and so you can always let it rip like

508
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 4: it's this the world is your oyster.

509
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 2: Let it rip, you know, Morgan? Is there anything else

510
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 2: you want to say to the people of the computer

511
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:28,479
Speaker 2: before we go?

512
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 4: People the computer? Be nice to people I don't know,

513
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 4: be kind lyle is it is?

514
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 7: It?

515
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 4: Is it awful of me to ask you a question?

516
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 4: Just one more question? You can answer?

517
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 2: What's the question? Yeah? Hit me?

518
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 4: If you had to choose which muppet would you fuck?

519
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 2: Which muppet would I fuck? Which? Which one is the

520
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 2: most the only I only really know Miss Piggy. But

521
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 2: she's an animal, so I feel like that's ethically But

522
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 2: I guess she's a talking animal.

523
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 4: They're all animals.

524
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 2: Okay, well then I guess, Yeah, I guess Miss Piggy.

525
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 4: Is that Miss Piggy?

526
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 2: Yeah? I could go for miss I don't know if

527
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 2: are there any other? Who are the other girls?

528
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 6: Kermit?

529
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 4: You know you got Kermit? Mine personally is animal? The drummer.

530
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I bet he would be pretty good. You know what,

531
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 2: I would suck him. I take back what I said.

532
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 2: I'd fuck him.

533
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 4: Really, So we're like, what are what do you.

534
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 2: What do you call it?

535
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 4: Whenever? You like not Irish twins. The is that I don't.

536
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 5: Know Eskimo brothers, brothers.

537
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 2: That's it's it's been an honor being an Eskimo brother

538
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 2: with you, Morgan, have a good rest of your entire life.

539
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 4: Thank you, Gek. I hope you do too. Keep doing

540
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 4: you doing.

541
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 2: I like to say she was nice. Yeah, that whole

542
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,719
Speaker 2: thing of the thought to your thoughts? What are your

543
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 2: thoughts say about you? I personally don't. I don't think

544
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 2: thoughts are worth much. I don't. I don't think thoughts

545
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 2: are worth much. I you know what, I don't work

546
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 2: on the subject of intrusive thoughts. I was walking down

547
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 2: the streets the other day and there was a guy

548
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 2: carrying a tiny baby, and I had a I've had

549
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 2: a thought popped into my head. I was like, what

550
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 2: would happen if I ran up to that guy and

551
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 2: I just punched his baby in the face. I would

552
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 2: never do I would never do that. I would never

553
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 2: do that. I would never do that. But I have

554
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 2: that thought almost I didn't have anything to do with

555
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 2: that thought. It just came to me, what if I

556
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 2: punched that guy's baby in the face. What does that

557
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 2: mean I'm a bad person? Fucking maybe Honestly, now I'm

558
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 2: thinking about it, but I wouldn't punch the baby. I

559
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 2: think the thinking about punching the baby and the actually

560
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 2: doing it are two different things. Again, for the record,

561
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 2: I would not punch a random person's baby, unless if

562
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 2: they did something to piss me off. Hello, Hello, what

563
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 2: is going on?

564
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 8: Oh wow?

565
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 7: This is Low? What a dream man?

566
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 2: This is Low. It's dream to talk to you. Man.

567
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 2: You're in London, right.

568
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: Yeah?

569
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, well just sound for London, but yeah, no

570
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 7: one would ahead of it.

571
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm coming. I'm coming there at twenty twenty three.

572
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do a live gecko thing. You should come.

573
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, you can promise.

574
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 2: I I'll prom us I'll do it. If you promise

575
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 2: to come.

576
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 8: I promise I'll be there.

577
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 7: Man, that'll be ding come true for me. Can I

578
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 7: just thought, I just want to ask you a questions

579
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 7: your your glove.

580
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know I know what you're going to say.

581
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 2: I know what you're going to say. I've said this

582
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 2: a bunch of I put. I cut two holes in

583
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 2: my gloves that I can use my MacBook.

584
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 7: It's a simple no, no, no, no, I wanted to know

585
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 7: if you could push your fingers all the way to

586
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,240
Speaker 7: the end of the gloves or if they're like made

587
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 7: to these permanent pets.

588
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 2: Okay, now, okay, okay, yeah I could. I could theoretically

589
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 2: push my I mean, the gloves are oversized as to

590
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 2: simulate sticky gecko hands, of course.

591
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 7: Okay, well, thank you for clearing that up to me.

592
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,439
Speaker 2: That's a funny thing to say, of course too. What's

593
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 2: your name again, Sam?

594
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 8: My name is Sam. Yeah.

595
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 2: Sam. What's going on with you in your life?

596
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 8: So, of course, not for some advice you man.

597
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 2: I moved.

598
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 7: Well, I've lived in an apartment for about coming up

599
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 7: to four years now, and eighteen months ago there was

600
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 7: a new girl who moved into the building, and like,

601
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 7: I didn't really get to speak to her much, but

602
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 7: I saw her in the corridor she's moving in, and

603
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 7: she seems okay. And then one morning I wake up

604
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 7: and she's left her number outside my door, and I think,

605
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 7: I don't really want to give this girl the wrong impression,

606
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 7: but like, I've got all the other neighbors numbers in

607
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 7: the building, so I should, you know, just be polite.

608
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 7: So I wait a few days and just said, Yo,

609
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,919
Speaker 7: it's Sam from that five.

610
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 8: Here's my number.

611
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 2: Do you do you believe that this girl left her

612
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 2: number outside of your door in a flirtatious way or

613
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 2: in a neighborly way.

614
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 7: I didn't know, but I just wanted to sort of

615
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 7: put the line down. I had something that happened before

616
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 7: and it ended really badly, so I'm just trying to

617
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 7: avoid that. So, you know, she asked me if I

618
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 7: had any like numbers forweed or ever a couple of times,

619
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 7: and I gave her that and that was chill. But

620
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 7: then it slowly started getting to the point where she

621
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 7: would be texting me sort of ten times a day

622
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 7: telling me that she missed me, and she couldn't stop

623
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 7: thinking about me, and she would be calling my phone

624
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 7: all the time, and it was just how pretty wild?

625
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 2: So I had how how long into how much? How

626
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 2: much interaction had you had with this person before she

627
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 2: started sending you those messages?

628
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 8: Nothing apart from giving her some numbers for some weird

629
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 8: because that's the enablest thing to do, you know, bizarre. Okay,

630
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 8: I keep going, She's telling me that she missed me anyway,

631
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 8: so I had to tell her to leave me alone, and.

632
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 7: Like in the end, I had to block that number

633
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 7: because she just would not take the take the hint.

634
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 7: And then it slowly started that she was going through

635
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 7: my mailbox to find all my details, and she found

636
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 7: on my socials and started added me and following me

637
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 7: on social and liking all my shit, and when I

638
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 7: mean like like in like fifty pictures in a row

639
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 7: at once, And then I would know that she'd been

640
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 7: going through my mouth because she'd start kissing it and

641
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 7: leave like lipstick marks on my post. Well unless it

642
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 7: could have been the postman, but I don't know. I

643
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 7: don't think so it.

644
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 2: Could maybe it could have most has a crush on you,

645
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 2: but she was going through mail and kissing it.

646
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, And then so like she started like.

647
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 7: She started again, and I had to tell her to

648
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 7: leave me alone. She got a new phone number she

649
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 7: started texting me from that, and I said, look like

650
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 7: this isn't cool, man, Like you got to leave me alone.

651
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 7: And she would like wait for me to leave my

652
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 7: apartment and start walking down the stairs and then open

653
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 7: her door to like try and get me in her

654
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 7: apartment while I was just like leaving for work, and

655
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 7: I'd be like, you've got to leave alone. So then

656
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 7: I told her to leave me alone again.

657
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 8: I have a text just so you've got to stop.

658
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 8: You just gotta leave me, Like, man, this is weird.

659
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 7: And I woke up the next day and she'd spray

660
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 7: painted asshole on my door and there was like I

661
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 7: had no improof, but like it was definitely her. And

662
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 7: then as I left the building, I saw on like

663
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 7: our bin that we have at the end of our

664
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 7: walkway that she'd.

665
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 8: Spray painted I Love You.

666
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 7: And God's spray paint as well.

667
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 2: So how long ago does all this happen?

668
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 8: So this has been ongoing for like a year. I

669
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 8: know that.

670
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 7: Yeah, So I know that she's suffered from mental health problems,

671
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 7: Like she's been sectioned three times now, and every time

672
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 7: that she's sectioned, she calls me up from the hospital

673
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 7: and she's like because it's an unknown number, I don't

674
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 7: know who it is, and it'll be like midnight and

675
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 7: it'll be like, oh, it's so nice to hear your voice,

676
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 7: like I really miss you. Yeah, So it's kind of

677
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 7: like weird behavior, but I know she's not well.

678
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 8: So my problem is is like I don't really want

679
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 8: to get the police involved, because you know Aca B

680
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 8: and I feel like they'll probably only make it worse

681
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 8: or not do what she needs to do.

682
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 2: Is genuine question. What is it that makes you think

683
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 2: that the police will only make it worse?

684
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,240
Speaker 7: Because I think if they come round and say something

685
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 7: to her, I've got no I've got hardly any evidence

686
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,280
Speaker 7: of any of this apart from a few text messages

687
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 7: and loads.

688
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 8: Of miss calls, and I don't know a.

689
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 7: Picture of some lipstick on the letter, you know, I've

690
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,399
Speaker 7: got like no proof that it was her very paint

691
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 7: at the door. And I just think if they come

692
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 7: round and turn off at her door and just knock

693
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 7: on her door and they don't do anything, it will

694
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 7: just make her lose it.

695
00:40:58,719 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 2: Sure.

696
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, she's got these crazy eyes man, Like

697
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 7: I swear any any of my name, Like my friends

698
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,479
Speaker 7: who come around they know about her. When they see

699
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 7: her for the first time, they're like, dude, she is

700
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 7: so fucking scary man.

701
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 2: So okay, if you're not going to go to the police,

702
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,399
Speaker 2: what other things have you considered doing?

703
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 7: So, Like, because we are as human that she's like

704
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 7: on some sort of like watch list or careless now

705
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 7: so that we have tried speaking to like our social workers, and.

706
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 2: That's a good idea. That's probably what I would do,

707
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 2: is is I fuck, I don't know if you can

708
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 2: get in contact with her social workers or whatever and

709
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 2: get you know, their advice on it.

710
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, but I mean I think because like the service

711
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 7: is associate around here, it's like unless they're immediately gonna

712
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 7: hurt someone or themselves, they don't do anything. So like

713
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 7: at the moment, she's going through this obsessive phase. This

714
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 7: is the other thing that she does. She get obsessed

715
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 7: with these random theories and she thinks that someone is

716
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 7: repeatedly breaking into her apartment and pissing in her purse

717
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 7: and then just like leaving her apartment, and she thinks

718
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 7: that this is like an ongoing Well, no, that's the thing.

719
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 7: So then she knocked on my door the other day.

720
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 7: She was knocking for about an hour and I was like, finally,

721
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 7: like fuck me, my dogs are going crazy.

722
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: I was like, what is up?

723
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 7: And she's like, can you smell this? And she had

724
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 7: like a carrier bag with her person and she was

725
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 7: tied up and she undid it and she sort of

726
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 7: held it up to me to smell him for the bag,

727
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 7: and I was like, yeah, man, I'm down, like the bag,

728
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 7: I don't know. So I smell it and it just

729
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 7: smells like nothing. And she's like, can you smell that?

730
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,919
Speaker 7: Isn't that disgusting? And her eyes are like well enough,

731
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 7: and I'm like, it doesn't smell anything. She's like, someone

732
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 7: has pissed into my purse again, and they keep coming

733
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 7: in and doing this. So yeah, man, I just never

734
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 7: know what I'm going to open my door to these days,

735
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 7: you know, when I come home from work or when

736
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 7: I leave in the morning.

737
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 2: I just's gonna be I mean, Sam, I gotta I mean, listen,

738
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: I got a couple of things that I'm thinking about.

739
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 2: Is I mean one, Okay, you're social The social worker said,

740
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 2: you can't really do anything unless if you know that

741
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,919
Speaker 2: this person has intent to harm anyone else or harm

742
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 2: herself at a certain point. And I don't know, I'm

743
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 2: not a lawyer or a social worker or anything, but

744
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 2: at a certain point, do you do you not have

745
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 2: enough evidence or could compile enough evidence to go and

746
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:44,280
Speaker 2: say I have reasonable belief that this person might attempt

747
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 2: to hurt me.

748
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 7: I mean I do, but I mean I just feel

749
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 7: like that there's not that much aggression in what she's

750
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 7: got apart from asshole on my door. But see that's

751
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 7: kind of I mean, that's kind of aggressive, isn't it.

752
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 7: Like see the rest of it's just mental. It's just

753
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 7: like wild behavior, you know, like how.

754
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: Much left do you have left on how much more

755
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 2: time do you have left on that least?

756
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 7: Oh? Man, I don't like four months?

757
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 2: How do you feel that booking it?

758
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 8: Yeah? Maybe you're right, man.

759
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 2: I mean I hate that. I I you know, I

760
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 2: hate that answer. I'm not saying it's the right answer.

761
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 2: I hate it because I don't think that, you know,

762
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 2: part you should let a person who is threatening you

763
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 2: or or causing you to feel unsafe. I don't think

764
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 2: you should, you know, vacate and let them win. But

765
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 2: also I think the idea of quote letting them win

766
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,439
Speaker 2: is stupid and you should just do whatever is best

767
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 2: for you.

768
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 8: Yeah.

769
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 2: I mean, look, if I were you, man, I would

770
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 2: just collect as much evidence as you can to you know,

771
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 2: make a compelling case to any kind of you know,

772
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 2: social or whatever police authority that you feel unsafe.

773
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 7: Maybe I should you know those Teddy bears where they

774
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 7: put the cameras in the eyes. Sure, I confession something

775
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 7: like that.

776
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 2: Well, I feel like that would be illegal on your part,

777
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 2: so I would avoid the teddy bear with the camera.

778
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 7: But I liked how when you were listening to me

779
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 7: for the most your eyes closed, by the.

780
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,760
Speaker 2: Way I do people who are listening on the podcast.

781
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 2: Can I see this? But I have my eyes closed

782
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:38,240
Speaker 2: because I I think I'm like partially blind right now,

783
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 2: and so I'm seeing if I close my eyes return,

784
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 2: so we'll see, we'll see.

785
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 7: But I was thinking, maybe you're imagining what I look like.

786
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 7: And then I was like, what does he imagine that

787
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 7: I look like?

788
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 2: I'm imagining what you look like right now?

789
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 8: Actually tell her?

790
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 2: Have I got blonde?

791
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 5: Oh shit?

792
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: Are you blinde?

793
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 8: Oh?

794
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 7: Man, you're fucking You're fucking well, dude, Yeah, I'm blown. Man,

795
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 7: that's crazy.

796
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 2: I'm secretly working together with your next door neighbor to

797
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 2: stalk you.

798
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:10,959
Speaker 8: Is it you piss?

799
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 2: It's messing in her purse, Yeph was Sam. Well, I'm

800
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 2: sorry here. I I I am of no help because

801
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,720
Speaker 2: I have no authority in the u State of London

802
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 2: or in any state of any kind. But I hope

803
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,240
Speaker 2: that you find some way to mitigate the situation.

804
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 7: Thank you, man, I appreciate I just wanted to say.

805
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,720
Speaker 8: As well, I've just felt at a therapy.

806
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 7: Degree and you were fifteen percent of the breeding to

807
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 7: me doing that, man.

808
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 2: So fifteen percent. I'll take fifteen percent.

809
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that's pretty good. Like that's me being.

810
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 2: Honest, you know, No, I'm glad. I no, No, fifteen percent

811
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 2: is great because if you told me I was the

812
00:46:56,120 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 2: sole reason, I'd be like, I'd be concerned. But fifteen I.

813
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 7: Don't want to lie to you either, and you're not.

814
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 7: But thank you, man, I have the best evening.

815
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:08,760
Speaker 2: Hey you for the people.

816
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 7: I just want to say, Maroon Five's first album was

817
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 7: fucking so good.

818
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 8: So I don't know what happened. Goodbye, Thank you can later.

819
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 2: I don't know anything about maroon five, but I don't

820
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 2: know whatever, Sam says, I I second blindly Hello, Hello, Hi?

821
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:28,720
Speaker 2: Is this Kylie?

822
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 5: Yes?

823
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:32,439
Speaker 2: What's up?

824
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:33,959
Speaker 5: Nothing much?

825
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 2: What are you? What are you doing?

826
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:43,280
Speaker 5: I'm just chilling on my bed watching a live stream

827
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 5: of a gecko?

828
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 2: What that's that's that's that sounds stupid? A live stream

829
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:57,240
Speaker 2: of a gecko? We what even is that? What's what's up? Kylie?

830
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 2: What's is there anything in particular you called in to

831
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 2: chat about.

832
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:06,240
Speaker 4: Preull.

833
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 5: I didn't think I was gonna be able to talk

834
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 5: to you. So there's so many I am, You're right here,

835
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 5: you are, you are right now.

836
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 2: Feel your breath, feel your your your hands, feel your eyes,

837
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 2: your nose, your mouth. You're alive in the universe. I

838
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 2: mean billions of years, Kylie, billions and billions and billions

839
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 2: and billions of years in the past. You are not around.

840
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 2: In the future, you will be dead. You won't be around.

841
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 2: And we're living in the thinnest possible microscopic margin of

842
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 2: time in which you exist, in which I exist, and

843
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 2: where we both are living in this time together. I'm

844
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 2: feeling the camaraderie with everyone who can fucking hear my

845
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 2: voice right now with you about about living in this

846
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 2: margin together? What a crazy thing? What's up with you?

847
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 2: What is there? Is there anything you wanted to talk about?

848
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 2: I mean, how are you feeling this? Let's let's let's

849
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 2: talk about stuff.

850
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 5: Well, I've been a little bit stressed lately. Tell me

851
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 5: what I just Well, I just bought a new car

852
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 5: and it was this whole situation. It fucking ridiculous, first

853
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 5: of all, and so it's just really stressful. So I

854
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 5: went to a car dealership because I wanted to get

855
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 5: a new car. I wanted like a four x four,

856
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 5: like a I will drive, but like that kind of car.

857
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 5: I went to a dealership and they tried to sell

858
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 5: me this one car, and I bought it, and then

859
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 5: but the bank didn't approve it, so I kind of

860
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 5: get the car. They needed a co sign there. My

861
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 5: dad wanted to co sign for me, So then I

862
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 5: was looking around at different places to find this tight

863
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 5: kind of car. And then but then the dealership was

864
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 5: trying to sell me like cars like regularly, like sedans

865
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 5: and stuff like that, and I was like, uh, they

866
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 5: tried to sell me this one car, and I was like,

867
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 5: I haven't even seen it and I haven't even tested you.

868
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,919
Speaker 2: I have here the of of of what you told

869
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 2: the call screen or do you wanted to talk about

870
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 2: I don't know if you don't want to talk about

871
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 2: that anymore.

872
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 5: Oh no I do. I just was saying that this

873
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 5: was stressing me out for the past a couple of times.

874
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I'm sorry, I mean to cut you off.

875
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 5: No, you're good. No, it was just like they tried

876
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 5: to sell my car and then I made a bad

877
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 5: decision and bought the car.

878
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 7: And then now I'm kind of stuck with it.

879
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 5: So that's like the moral of the story.

880
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 2: Well, it's better than what, it's not better than Sometimes

881
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 2: I like I like walking, but I like driving to

882
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 2: Actually that's not sure. I don't driving. I've been watching

883
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 2: a lot of videos of car accidents on Reddit. Well,

884
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 2: you know what, Kylie, what did you want to talk

885
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 2: about today? Let's I'm done with cars, I'm done with myself,

886
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 2: I'm done with anything. Just let's talk about stuff.

887
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 5: Oh okay, okay. So I have this tool worker at

888
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 5: work and he's like, what like fifty four or fifty

889
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 5: five okay, and I have I think I have a

890
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 5: crush on him. Okay, I'm twenty four.

891
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:29,280
Speaker 2: Okay.

892
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 5: I don't know what to do because he was like

893
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 5: at one point he was like he like asked me

894
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 5: if like I signed him attractive or something like that.

895
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 4: I was like no, And then later on I'm.

896
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 6: Like, yeah, So I'm a little in a pickle, and

897
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 6: but I don't know if I would ask him out

898
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 6: or not, because I haven't decided if I actually like

899
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 6: him or not.

900
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 5: So I'm kind of like, oh, what do you.

901
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 2: Want to do?

902
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 1: What do you what?

903
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 2: Do you want to do?

904
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:16,879
Speaker 5: I don't know. He he's really cool. And I think

905
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 5: I had a crush on one of my old coworkers.

906
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 5: He was forty five, okay, and I asked him out

907
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 5: and he said no. And then my ex was thirty. No, yeah, thirty.

908
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,280
Speaker 5: So like I guess I have a thing for older

909
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 5: guys or something like that. So like maybe it's like

910
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 5: the age, so like he's really cool, you know.

911
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 2: Okay, Well you said you're twenty four, right, yeah, okay,

912
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 2: you're twenty four. I'm twenty four as well. I feel

913
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 2: like at twenty four you uh you. I mean, look,

914
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 2: you can do whatever you want with your life, you know,

915
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 2: I mean what what are you? What? Where is where

916
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 2: I want to know for you? In your brain and

917
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 2: your thought processes. Where the conflict comes from?

918
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 5: Well, I think I have a little bit of daddy issues,

919
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:24,720
Speaker 5: So I I think I have a thing for older men, right,

920
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 5: And so the conflict is is that it's like while

921
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 5: I'm so young, and he obviously like jokes about he

922
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 5: jokes about like how young I am all the time,

923
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 5: and like all this other kind of stuff is like

924
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 5: would he even like me like that? Because I'm so young?

925
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 5: You know, and so there's that, and then you're like

926
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 5: the typical like I don't like myself type of stuff.

927
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,800
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean I mean hold on, stop, stop, stop,

928
00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 2: stop right there. And you said, do you you do

929
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 2: you feel as though? You said, you feel as though

930
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 2: you don't like yourself? Yeah, and you feel as do

931
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 2: you feel as though that is like having an effect

932
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 2: on the decisions you make? Is you navigate the relationships

933
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,240
Speaker 2: in your life?

934
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 5: Oh definitely?

935
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean listen, yeah, the relationships are hard at

936
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 2: fucking age or amount of fucking thrupple or gender or

937
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,439
Speaker 2: any of that stuff. Throw every throw it all out

938
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:46,919
Speaker 2: the window for a second here. Fucking relationships are tough

939
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:57,240
Speaker 2: to navigate. And with any of the relationships stuff is about,

940
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 2: you know, if you have this thing that's going going

941
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 2: on with you, and I don't know, I'm not going

942
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 2: to tell you how to live your life, but if

943
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 2: you have a thing that's going on with you, I

944
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 2: would i'd hope that you are prioritizing dealing with with

945
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 2: that before you, uh, you know, focus on your engagements

946
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 2: with other people. Does that make sense? Is it? Is

947
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 2: it valid? I don't know.

948
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 5: It's the you know, love yourself before you you can.

949
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 5: You have to love yourself before you can love others.

950
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 2: Of course, right, yeah, of course, of course do you Okay?

951
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:50,720
Speaker 2: So I no, go ahead, and go ahead, I'm interrupting you.

952
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 5: No, I was just gonna say, and I and I

953
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 5: agree with that, But I also feel like you don't

954
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 5: have to love you don't have to love yourself to

955
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 5: love someone at the same time, because you can love

956
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 5: anybody you want if you don't love yourself, you know, yeah.

957
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 2: One hundred percent, I think you should go and do

958
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 2: whatever you want. Well, let's talk about this, okay. You

959
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,240
Speaker 2: said that you feel as though you not liking yourself

960
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 2: influences the way you navigate relationships. Why why do you

961
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 2: think that is or in what way do you think

962
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 2: it affects navigate it affects how you navigate relationships?

963
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 5: I think mostly for me is that I just don't

964
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:50,320
Speaker 5: believe that anyone could ever love me for me, you know, yeah,

965
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 5: and I there's that, and I just so like when

966
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 5: it's such a comes up, like if someone's angry at

967
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:04,439
Speaker 5: me or something like that, I have a really hard

968
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:05,800
Speaker 5: time with confrontations.

969
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 3: So like.

970
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,760
Speaker 5: Navigating through a relationship, trying to build that relationship with someone,

971
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 5: I always go for the like I always go for

972
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 5: the what I'm what's what I'm looking for?

973
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 4: The combination or the I can't think of the word

974
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 4: is it.

975
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:32,959
Speaker 2: Or is it? Are you looking for the thing that?

976
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 1: Oh?

977
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 2: No, no, I can't think hold on, Are you looking

978
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 2: for the because you said that you feel as though

979
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:40,959
Speaker 2: people can't just love you for you? Are you looking

980
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 2: for like the thing that they like you for?

981
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 8: No?

982
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 5: Not necessarily, because like I talk about this in therapy with.

983
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 3: My therapist, but the I know, like I know that

984
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 3: I'm beautiful and amazing and kind and.

985
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 5: All those great things, but like I don't feel like that,

986
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:11,959
Speaker 5: So like trying to like navigate that relationship of like, well,

987
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 5: I feel like this, but I know that they do

988
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 5: love me for me, but like I feel like they don't.

989
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 5: So like are feelings or our thoughts more important? Like

990
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 5: which one is better?

991
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 7: Like which one?

992
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 1: Like?

993
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 4: Which one do you go for?

994
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 5: It's like that kind of like toss up of like

995
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 5: which one is more important to you as a person?

996
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 2: And yes, so I mean look back to the central

997
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 2: issue that you you started with, which is not actually

998
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 2: the central issue, but just the issue that you started

999
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 2: with of whether or not you want to get involved

1000
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 2: with this guy. Do you feel as though your journey

1001
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 2: toward uh, trying to to not hate yourself will be aided, impeded,

1002
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:39,439
Speaker 2: or unrelated indifference to you pursuing something with this guy.

1003
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 5: Uh, I know that he would treat me right as

1004
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 5: a person.

1005
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 2: So you know, you listen, listen. You don't have to,

1006
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 2: you don't have to, you don't have to come up,

1007
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 2: you don't have to come up with an answer to

1008
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 2: that right now. But I think that, oh, I guess

1009
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 2: you know, if you're sitting here, you say you're in

1010
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 2: a pickle. I think that that's the question as you're

1011
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 2: navigating your pickle, uh, to think about.

1012
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, is it really like such a big deal?

1013
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 5: You know, because like, but it is, but like it

1014
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 5: isn't at the same.

1015
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 2: Time, like, well, I mean, you you have your own

1016
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 2: there's no right or wrong answer to any of this stuff,

1017
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 2: whether or not's a big I mean, you decide whether

1018
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 2: or not it's a big deal. I would if I

1019
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 2: and here's I'll say this, I would take I would

1020
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 2: really take any peripheral societal thoughts away for a second

1021
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 2: and just think about what you believe is best for

1022
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 2: you in your life. And also what I whatever your

1023
01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 2: therapist said, because I'm curious about that. What did your

1024
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 2: therapists say about all this?

1025
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 5: I actually haven't told her, Okay, so she she actually

1026
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 5: doesn't know. Because the last time that we were talking,

1027
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 5: we were talking about about my car situation and how

1028
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 5: that made me feel.

1029
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 2: And you did talk a lot about a car. I

1030
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 2: do remember that.

1031
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's really not that interesting, but at the time

1032
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 5: it was very stressful, you know. But and then we

1033
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 5: got talking about some things that happened to me in

1034
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 5: my past and like pretty deep things, and yeah, it

1035
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 5: was just I don't.

1036
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 2: Know if you want to talk about this, but or

1037
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 2: is it a car thing? I kind of I kind

1038
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 2: of have to move on. But no, is there anything

1039
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 2: else you want to say with the people of the

1040
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 2: computer before we go.

1041
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 5: Anything?

1042
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 4: I want to see the computer?

1043
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 5: You people, You should definitely try to be kind to people,

1044
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 5: even if they're mean to you, at least philosophy.

1045
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 2: I like that. I like that, you know, being being

1046
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 2: kind when it's hard. I like that. Yeah, thank you

1047
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 2: very much for calling Kylie. I hope that you uh

1048
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 2: figure out what to do.

1049
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 5: Thank you Lyle for your time. I really appreciate it.

1050
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 5: I have a good one, you too, all right bye.

1051
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 2: On this stream, we talked to people and with their

1052
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 2: people in thrupples, people and people in relationships of you

1053
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 2: know whatever, straight relationships, gay relationships for the age, whatever,

1054
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:58,959
Speaker 2: relations relationships with four people in them, or any kind

1055
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 2: of any relationship of any case. It's all complicated, tough

1056
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 2: to navigate, and and I don't know, I don't know,

1057
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 2: I know how I feel. I'm no expert on any

1058
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 2: of that stuff. Uh well, people, one thing I'm learning

1059
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 2: from all all these calls have taken over these people

1060
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 2: that it's just it's a it's like maybe the most

1061
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 2: common topic that people have there's navigating relationships. I'm not

1062
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 2: talking about it anymore. Goes on the line taking your

1063
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 2: phone calls every night, ever, goes to is teaching you cloudy?

1064
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 2: Not really an expert