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Speaker 2: Hello everybody, this is Sebastian Dina Tal, segment director for
Speaker 2: the Daily Show, and we are back with another You
Speaker 2: gotta be quiet because I gotta intro you.
Speaker 1: Well, don't, ok, I have to introduce you a surprise.
Speaker 1: Today we're here with Daily Show correspondent and guest host
Speaker 1: for one entire show. And it's interesting because most people
Speaker 1: got a whole week to host the other show, but
Speaker 1: for you, they said, now you know what this guy
Speaker 1: his perspective, He's got about twenty two.
Speaker 3: Minutes of it and that's what we need from him,
Speaker 3: including the guests. And it's including the guests, which went
Speaker 3: very long. And it's mister funny pants himself. We call
Speaker 3: him mister Ronnie Chang.
Speaker 4: Thank you, thanks for having me. This is a side
Speaker 4: of you I have never seen. Oh, come on all
Speaker 4: this present us.
Speaker 1: Oh please, I'm very very unlike your day to day
Speaker 1: stop stop. That's so fun. So you were corresponding here
Speaker 1: for a long time and you recently posted, well you're
Speaker 1: a course, but you've been a corresponding here for a
Speaker 1: long time. But then you got asked to host, yes,
Speaker 1: which was very cool, and what was that like, what
Speaker 1: was your hosting day? Like it was great.
Speaker 4: It felt like I was in charge of like cleaning
Speaker 4: the floors in the kitchen for eight years and then
Speaker 4: one day to ask you to, you know, be the chef,
Speaker 4: and you're like, oh, I've seen this for eight years.
Speaker 1: I kind of know what you know.
Speaker 4: At the very least, I didn't feel nervous about it
Speaker 4: because I trusted everyone around.
Speaker 1: Me, and you were witnessing all of the chefs and everyone.
Speaker 4: Exactly every day, and so I kind of I couldn't
Speaker 4: have been more prepared for it, you know, quite frankly.
Speaker 1: Was there a big transition between correspondent hat and host
Speaker 1: hat for me?
Speaker 4: No, because one I maybe I downplayed it. I didn't
Speaker 4: want to get in my head too much. And two,
Speaker 4: if you really break it down, there's not much more
Speaker 4: other than the topics you're talking about. So as the host,
Speaker 4: you you have to cover everything. But as the correspondent
Speaker 4: you get to come in and kind of hit on
Speaker 4: a very specific topic or segment and then get out.
Speaker 4: Because the host, you're kind of like, whatever happened that day,
Speaker 4: it's on you. You got to talk about everything that day.
Speaker 4: So apparently close to a truce in the Middle East.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 4: I accomplished what no other daily show hosts could. Sure,
Speaker 4: maybe if you gave me the job permanently, I could
Speaker 4: solve this, But for now, here's what you get, the
Speaker 4: difference between being a five second kind of joke versus
Speaker 4: you have to maintain the pace for the whole show.
Speaker 4: So you can't go too hard the whole time. You know,
Speaker 4: you have to have a good pace flow.
Speaker 1: You got that flow.
Speaker 4: Whereas a correspondent, your only job was to hit a
Speaker 4: home run any way you could as much as you
Speaker 4: could just keep hitting it.
Speaker 1: You yeah, yeah, And so for when you went into
Speaker 1: the host chair, you recognize, like there will be some
Speaker 1: lulls here, there's be some momentum bill thing, Yeah, momentum building.
Speaker 4: Also, I think the biggest thing on that idea was also,
Speaker 4: like I have to be more likable as the host.
Speaker 4: You can't just come in and do your correspondent persona.
Speaker 1: You want to Yeah, you're basically kind of straight manning
Speaker 1: for the show. You kind of stream with the audience
Speaker 1: to be on your side.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, you want them on your side, and you
Speaker 4: want them, Like I said, it's kind of about pace,
Speaker 4: Like you don't want to burn out the pace too soon.
Speaker 1: I think did you feel like hosting the show, were
Speaker 1: you able to slip into like a stand up mentality
Speaker 1: in terms of how you were presenting to the audience,
Speaker 1: how you were reacting to the audience, or was it
Speaker 1: kind of a different perspective.
Speaker 4: That's yeah, that's a very nuanced question. I think, like
Speaker 4: the show and stand up has always been pretty different.
Speaker 4: The skill sets overlap, but I think I was trying
Speaker 4: to channel not so much channeling stand up. I was
Speaker 4: definitely trying to channel everyone I've been watching over the
Speaker 4: last eight years, Trevor and John and how they would host,
Speaker 4: and how their pacing would go, and how they.
Speaker 1: Would bring you into stories.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think John and Trevor are really
Speaker 4: good at bringing you into a story, which again it's
Speaker 4: different skill set to like hitting a home run. So
Speaker 4: I was very conscious of trying to bring people into
Speaker 4: stories of like, hey, this is what's happening today, this
Speaker 4: is crazy, and then you know, making sure the jokes
Speaker 4: that were doing would want to one dimensional in terms
Speaker 4: of yelling or just being angry or whatever. I was
Speaker 4: conscious of kind of being a bit more multi dimensional
Speaker 4: of the jokes you know, instead of just being a
Speaker 4: correspondent character, which which sometimes is one dimensional, and it
Speaker 4: works because that's the point of it is that you're
Speaker 4: you're playing a one dimensional character, ironically, but as a host,
Speaker 4: you're you know, you're not supposed to do that.
Speaker 1: You co hosted an app with Costa, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Welcome to the I might go Costa and I'm Rodney Shang.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 4: So now you're getting two hosts for the price of.
Speaker 5: One, but.
Speaker 1: Where they're cutting our paychecks and.
Speaker 4: Have no, they're just not paying you, all right, So
Speaker 4: let's just get right into the headlines.
Speaker 1: What was that like compared to solo host?
Speaker 4: Yeah, host co hosting it wasn't a way easier because
Speaker 4: it's a much lighter lift in terms of just pure
Speaker 4: minutes on the screen, in terms of minutes you have
Speaker 4: to perform.
Speaker 1: It was just less, but it was a bit.
Speaker 4: The difficulty was in getting a rapport with Casta that
Speaker 4: makes sense for the show and not just being you
Speaker 4: do a joke, I do a joke, you do Joe,
Speaker 4: I do a joke. We were trying to get some
Speaker 4: kind of rapport and and we really had nothing to
Speaker 4: go off of, so we we had to kind of
Speaker 4: develop it.
Speaker 1: You know ourselves report in chemistry basically.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, not even just report in chemistry because we're
Speaker 4: good friends. But it's more like, how are we going
Speaker 4: to do this on the show? How we're going to
Speaker 4: present this to host thing without it being very siloed off.
Speaker 1: Sure, because you need kind of a person. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: you're co hosting, you have to be a team. So
Speaker 1: how how does that even what does that even look like?
Speaker 1: Co hosting also made it less scary hosting kind of
Speaker 1: for the teammate. Yeah, I literally got I got to
Speaker 1: see what it was like to half host a show. Sure.
Speaker 4: Sure, I couldn't have had better kind of skill set
Speaker 4: build up, you know. Yeah, cost one years, I got
Speaker 4: the half hosts show and then I got a host
Speaker 4: of show. Yeah, I felt like I could have been
Speaker 4: more prepared. And John Oliver came in and he was
Speaker 4: a great guest.
Speaker 1: You know, John Oliver is a British guy, has a
Speaker 1: former correspondent on the show. He's a very former host
Speaker 1: of the show for a small period of time. And
Speaker 1: you guys talked about being immigrants doing comedy in America,
Speaker 1: coming over doing comedy in America.
Speaker 4: You told me it took you two years to relearn
Speaker 4: how to do comedy in America.
Speaker 6: I think that's probably true.
Speaker 4: You want spot onto the day, By the way, I
Speaker 4: was in hindsight, I was sorry, oh my god, because
Speaker 4: I remember there was a day I was in New
Speaker 4: York City gigging at some comedy club and it was
Speaker 4: two years in literally almost to the day, and I
Speaker 4: remember things are trying to click a little bit of
Speaker 4: like relearning how to do comedy because again, like you,
Speaker 4: like me, we were doing comedy outside of America before
Speaker 4: we even came here.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and so I think the outside the perspective and
Speaker 6: comedy always works. The thing with being an immigrant here
Speaker 6: is you kind of have to learn the exact way
Speaker 6: that your outside a perspective can translate. So you kind
Speaker 6: of have to learn basically how that can work. And
Speaker 6: once it does, you're fine. But until that point it
Speaker 6: does feel a little bit like uncharted waters.
Speaker 4: I feel like he's one of the few people who
Speaker 4: could relate such a specific experience being a non American
Speaker 4: correspond on a daily show. You know, technically send by
Speaker 4: Jason Jones a Canadian.
Speaker 1: Canadians are basically Americans, get more polite American, Yeah, Jason
Speaker 1: but man, really going for this. He's a great guy.
Speaker 4: And then so not technically the first non American correspondent,
Speaker 4: but still in many ways the first very foreign correspond
Speaker 4: on a daily show.
Speaker 1: So did you find coming in like I'm going to
Speaker 1: give an international perspective, I'm going to do this the
Speaker 1: immigrant way versus trying to do it the American way
Speaker 1: or is there an American way?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a really good question. I think I think
Speaker 4: Trevor was already there. So he kind of set the
Speaker 4: bar for being non American and having a non American perspective,
Speaker 4: very non American perspective, I would say, And so I
Speaker 4: didn't feel the pressure to bring that. And in some ways,
Speaker 4: you know, the Daily Show and American entertainment, I would say,
Speaker 4: they don't always want a foreign perspective. Sometimes it's too foreign.
Speaker 4: And it's not even a conscious thing. It's not even
Speaker 4: racism or anything. It's just like it's too alien, it's
Speaker 4: too the perspective is literally, we don't understand how you
Speaker 4: could be from a country that doesn't have guns and
Speaker 4: has good health care, sure, and why you would think
Speaker 4: that's a good thing. And when you when you start
Speaker 4: talking about it, because they haven't even experience what healthcare
Speaker 4: looks like.
Speaker 1: Right, And yeah, in terms of like a joke, that
Speaker 1: setup is completely different because you have a different basis
Speaker 1: of reality than an American audience.
Speaker 4: Right. And it's not racism, it's just it's just completely
Speaker 4: when you get into a very nuanced joke that they
Speaker 4: don't even get your perspective from what you're saying now
Speaker 4: that they don't want to.
Speaker 1: They just they haven't seen that, they don't have that basis. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that makes sense.
Speaker 4: So to answer your question, a lot of a lot
Speaker 4: of the time, I had to americanize more than give
Speaker 4: international perspective. I had to be more American to make
Speaker 4: sure I was landing the jokes because end of the day,
Speaker 4: the Daily Show is about American politics. Yeah, for the
Speaker 4: most part, you know, And so the international perspective helps
Speaker 4: a lot in terms of just giving a different look
Speaker 4: at something.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: So you have, hopefully you have an original idea that
Speaker 4: someone in America hasn't thought of just because of his
Speaker 4: new perspective. But the end of the day, we'll talk
Speaker 4: about American politics. The audience is predominantly American. If we
Speaker 4: tried to do Australian perspective, for the Daily Show. I
Speaker 4: think we all be out the door.
Speaker 1: So host, correspondent, yeah, and stand up comedian, three kind
Speaker 1: of different types of comedic roles. You also for your week,
Speaker 1: and you've done this repeatedly, but you also are a
Speaker 1: sketch actor as well. Oh, an actor. You're an actor
Speaker 1: as well, act in movies. You're not playing a stand
Speaker 1: up in your in megans, that's right. So for your sketches,
Speaker 1: because you and I did a sketch for your week. Yes,
Speaker 1: thank you very much, Thank you so much for doing it.
Speaker 1: So one of the sketches we do these people behind
Speaker 1: the people, where it's kind of a sort of look
Speaker 1: into these more mundane figures in non mundane characters.
Speaker 4: Wow, that was the most boring description of economy so much. Well,
Speaker 4: you know, it's truth in comedy. But you played Trump's scheduler,
Speaker 4: and that was a funny premise because he has a
Speaker 4: really busy schedule.
Speaker 5: I have a color coded system that falls apart every
Speaker 5: ten minutes. But red is for state court prep, blue
Speaker 5: is for federal court cases, yellow is New York City
Speaker 5: court cases.
Speaker 1: Purple is for time he spends with his kids.
Speaker 4: But I also use it for fraud charge cases because
Speaker 4: they basically overlap.
Speaker 1: How do you approach comedic acting versus correspondenting or is
Speaker 1: it the same.
Speaker 4: Thing when it comes into sketch. I tried to get
Speaker 4: into the zone more like when you're doing stand up.
Speaker 4: It's basically your trying to, in my opinion, get to
Speaker 4: your own true opinion on a subject. So in many ways,
Speaker 4: you're trying to get to your own point of view
Speaker 4: as soon as you can and no one else's. You're
Speaker 4: trying to be as specific to your own point of
Speaker 4: view as possible.
Speaker 1: Sure, as a.
Speaker 4: Correspondent, you are working for other people to get to
Speaker 4: a middle ground perspective, meaning your own point of view
Speaker 4: plus other people's mixed in, And with sketch you're completely
Speaker 4: someone else's point of view. It is my opinion on it.
Speaker 4: So when you're doing sketch, you totally got to get
Speaker 4: into a character. You have to like think like the
Speaker 4: character in the scene. You have to emote like the character.
Speaker 4: Do you try to bring truth to your acting roles?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I do. That's the only way I can do it. No,
Speaker 1: that's good, that's great.
Speaker 4: If I don't do that, I feel like I'm doing
Speaker 4: a bad job. If I don't get into the character.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I think I'm half asking this, And even
Speaker 4: for a comedy sketch, you know you don't want to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, that's great. And a lot of comedic actors,
Speaker 1: especially will you know, either pretend or they'll they'll just.
Speaker 4: I used to do that probably, but I think I've
Speaker 4: got more experience of acting and I kind of know
Speaker 4: where I have to go to get into a zone
Speaker 4: a little bit better. So yeah, but you know, it's
Speaker 4: so funny we're talking so seriously about all this stuff.
Speaker 4: At the end of the day, it's like so much
Speaker 4: of it is just an odd feel, right, Like when
Speaker 4: you're doing comedy don't you feel like there's a feel
Speaker 4: for it that you sure?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you mean, like in terms of the what the
Speaker 1: audience is getting out of it or what I'm getting
Speaker 1: out of it.
Speaker 4: For you to make something that you think is good,
Speaker 4: don't you think a lot of it is feel instincts,
Speaker 4: instincts you know, you can't you can't like, So for me,
Speaker 4: the best comedy sketches are the ones that are funny
Speaker 4: on the page and then we find magic on the day.
Speaker 1: Sure, And if you rely too.
Speaker 4: Much on either, I'm like, it's it will be good,
Speaker 4: but it's not gonna be great totally.
Speaker 1: You have to have the preparation. And I still am
Speaker 1: a huge proponent of like rehearsal, for example, because once
Speaker 1: you know the lines, you can change the lines. And
Speaker 1: then on the day because we found a lot of
Speaker 1: funny stuff on that day.
Speaker 4: Your huge stickler for a rehearsal, which is good hash
Speaker 4: task mask at well you know it's in a good way.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's what the you know, best way takes.
Speaker 1: The best things you can get out of people is
Speaker 1: when they know what at least the baseline is and
Speaker 1: they can go off the rails a little bit.
Speaker 4: You want good writing on a page, and you want
Speaker 4: to find the magic on the day, which you're always
Speaker 4: great at finding, you know.
Speaker 1: So are you, Ronnie? He's great. Did you find did
Speaker 1: you find that for this character? You played like a
Speaker 1: very frustrated guy? Was that hard for you? It's hard
Speaker 1: for you to find like that was angry? Do you
Speaker 1: like do you like being type cast for that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff, for being younger stuff as wholeish? You weren't
Speaker 1: as wholish for this, but in some of your other pieces,
Speaker 1: like some Anger, some kind of.
Speaker 4: Uh, you know, I am I tired of it. It depends
Speaker 4: on the thing. It's very easy for me to do,
Speaker 4: so in that sense, I don't hate it because I
Speaker 4: feel like I can.
Speaker 1: Type I can tap into that very easily. But do
Speaker 1: you wish you had opportunities to play against type or
Speaker 1: play sure?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and I do. I do get opportunities to
Speaker 4: play against type sometimes. You know, I don't be grudge you.
Speaker 4: I mean, if it's a good I think what I
Speaker 4: don't like is when it's you know, kind of for
Speaker 4: lack of type cast for the sake of being type cast.
Speaker 1: Sure. Sure, that's when it is like, yeah, we should
Speaker 1: do this one because Ronnie's angry.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but if it's like, oh, this is a situation
Speaker 4: and he's an angry persident.
Speaker 1: But okay, I can you can tap into that, I
Speaker 1: think the easiest.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think the correspondence, yes, especially so in
Speaker 4: a way it's authenticity, right yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Part of the big component of art is your audience. Okay, right, yes,
Speaker 1: you would, especially for comedy, I would imagine stand up especially, Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: they are the instrument that you play. Yes, So what
Speaker 1: happens when we go into this online world of comments,
Speaker 1: blog posts, reviews, because I know you're a big anti
Speaker 1: comment guy. You have bits in your stand up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm anti comment.
Speaker 4: I'm anti unqualified people on social media kind of you know,
Speaker 4: whatever they feel in a given second, as though it's gospel.
Speaker 1: You don't like that, I don't. Don't You don't like people?
Speaker 1: Do you like? Do not like the judgment? Or do
Speaker 1: you not like that they're not of the caliber to
Speaker 1: be able to make such claims.
Speaker 4: I don't like the lack of qualifications in the claims,
Speaker 4: and also don't like the emphasis we put on on
Speaker 4: that claims. So even who who puts like even us
Speaker 4: right now? I asked talking about it. Someone was like, well,
Speaker 4: we shouldn't really care about it, you know.
Speaker 1: Do you feel the same way about like, just like
Speaker 1: art critics in general or critique in general? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think so.
Speaker 4: I think there's a I think there's qualified critics, sure,
Speaker 4: you know, I think there's a lot of unqualified critics.
Speaker 4: I think we can universally agree that unqualified critique is
Speaker 4: kind of like unnecessary noise. I think it helps anything. Sure,
Speaker 4: So we all agree on that. So meaning that not
Speaker 4: all criticism is valid.
Speaker 1: Or not all criticism is equal. You know, I think
Speaker 1: that you don't necessarily need to go to like journalism
Speaker 1: school or like right for the Wall Street Journal to
Speaker 1: have as critique of like a play for example, as
Speaker 1: like a guy that goes to a play. And you know,
Speaker 1: I think I think there is kind of a sort
Speaker 1: of what's it called a gatekeeping for art criticism.
Speaker 4: Yes, and you agree with that. I like that on
Speaker 4: your episode. I love gatekeepers. I love I think gatekeepers
Speaker 4: are what make it. I mean that's why you know,
Speaker 4: when you got a job, I knew you were good
Speaker 4: because of the gatekeepers sure to get into the Daily Show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I agree, But I think when it
Speaker 1: comes to commentary, it's and speech right, because it's a speech,
Speaker 1: it's a little bit no icer than a gatekeeper that's like, oh,
Speaker 1: do you know how to use a camera? Do you
Speaker 1: know how to craft a story? Gatekeeping opinions to me
Speaker 1: is kind of I don't know. Elitis is very elitist.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't call it like classist, but I would say
Speaker 1: that it dead classes. But no, but here's your point though.
Speaker 4: I take your point about like you're trying to open
Speaker 4: up the ability for people to the validity of people
Speaker 4: to criticize or give comments. And you could say I
Speaker 4: don't agree with this person, yes, but he has kind
Speaker 4: of my broad up point because I can't accept that
Speaker 4: as what you said as a like, okay, that's a
Speaker 4: reasonable point of view, which is not completely wrong. And
Speaker 4: you know, obviously when we say like funk, all these
Speaker 4: its a there's a bit of hyper bullet in hyperbole,
Speaker 4: hyperbolic involvement. But the truth of the hyperbole is that
Speaker 4: it's very hard to make things.
Speaker 1: Sure, we can all agreeree.
Speaker 4: With that making anythings very difficult. Yes, it's very easy
Speaker 4: to shit on things. I agree with shitting on things
Speaker 4: takes zero effort, yes, And so that's kind of the
Speaker 4: core of my it on that, sure is that, yeah,
Speaker 4: we spend a lot of time making stuff, and we
Speaker 4: will profess, you know, we put our effort to making things.
Speaker 4: And so for people to sit on a toilet while
Speaker 4: taking a shit, right and look at something for two
Speaker 4: seconds and blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I've been doing comedy not that long, you know, since
Speaker 4: two thousand and nine. So what I'm in my fourteenth
Speaker 4: year now, not not that long, you know, still baby,
Speaker 4: by comedy standards, I think at least midlife or early
Speaker 4: you know, twenties, and like whatever the analogy is. But like,
Speaker 4: I've seen a lot of criticism, you know, of myself,
Speaker 4: of other people, and a lot of it was like
Speaker 4: this is totally not valid. Like the way which they
Speaker 4: come at it, like they don't even get the originating premise.
Speaker 4: They don't get like, oh, you're trying to be ironic.
Speaker 1: They missed the whole thing.
Speaker 4: They missed the whole thing and sincerely missing it is
Speaker 4: just ignorance and stupidity, which is forgivable. But then there's
Speaker 4: another one which is like kind of more malicious. Whereas
Speaker 4: they're trying to critique and they're trying to they're trying
Speaker 4: to bring you down for no reasons.
Speaker 1: I agree, and that I don't. I don't like the energy.
Speaker 4: That's that's where all this comes from, is like I
Speaker 4: don't like the energy of people who just kind of
Speaker 4: complaining without making anything for themselves, you know, and thinking
Speaker 4: that that's legitimate.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think that's legitimate. I couldn't help.
Speaker 1: But notice you had a great Instagram post of you
Speaker 1: in front of Times Square fourteen years ago with Hannah,
Speaker 1: your then girlfriend their wife. Yes, and then another post
Speaker 1: where it was you nowadays. Nowadays it's you now and
Speaker 1: it's your your on Times Square Billboard to promote your
Speaker 1: radio city, which is easier than you think it would
Speaker 1: be to. No, it's hard to get to radio city.
Speaker 1: Real city is hot, but Billboard, Times Square Billboard's very double.
Speaker 5: Really.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good to know. So if you're out there
Speaker 1: that money getting it built. But doesn't I mean, aside
Speaker 1: from it being a nice humble brag, isn't that sort
Speaker 1: of the proof in the pudding that you don't even
Speaker 1: really need to address these people because you have Oh,
Speaker 1: you're making my point for me. Okay, That's what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: is you have the receipts, so to speak, to say
Speaker 1: that at least I'm doing something right in my industry
Speaker 1: that my industry is repaying me for.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know, I kind of I think to
Speaker 4: your point anyway, Yeah, A good evolution of yourself as
Speaker 4: an artist is when you truly don't care about that
Speaker 4: stuff and you're not just saying it, meaning when you
Speaker 4: truly don't care about the critics and you're letting your
Speaker 4: work speak for yourself. And I truly believe that now
Speaker 4: you know I'm not just saying it obviously, you know,
Speaker 4: shitty comments made me angry, but the time it makes
Speaker 4: me angry becomes less and less and if you truly
Speaker 4: move beyond it, meaning letting your work speak for yourself.
Speaker 4: And so I think that's where I am right now,
Speaker 4: where you just focus on the work and it's not
Speaker 4: so much like fuck the haters now, it's more like, no,
Speaker 4: I just want to make cool stuff now, gotcha? Yeah,
Speaker 4: And that's that's where I'm coming from. I think that's
Speaker 4: a that's a better energy I have as a comic,
Speaker 4: as a creator, as oddist. Right, I don't think you
Speaker 4: want to be making from hate.
Speaker 1: Do haters stick with you more than lovers or whatever
Speaker 1: you would call the opposite of a hater, But you
Speaker 1: have object I objectively tried to find more hateful comments
Speaker 1: on the YouTube videos to bring Here Today to Ride,
Speaker 1: and there were overwhelmingly more supportive comments. Now, most of
Speaker 1: the comments were like, uh wait. One of them they
Speaker 1: were like, oh, how how freaking extra cute is Ronnie
Speaker 1: with his messy hair? How cute is Ronnie with bang
Speaker 1: Ronnie Chang is adorable with his hair tussled? So other
Speaker 1: than being I guess in a weird way, like wanting
Speaker 1: to be taken care of like a baby to some
Speaker 1: of these people. I shared this clip with my aunts
Speaker 1: and they loved it. That was an interesting because, yeah,
Speaker 1: it seemed like that a lot of people, for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: seemed to love you and not shit on your art
Speaker 1: as much. But do you feel the same amount of
Speaker 1: because I feel like sometimes negativity can stick with people
Speaker 1: a little bit stronger than Yeah, I think support well,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of the to that. To answer
Speaker 1: your question, I think a lot of the job now
Speaker 1: as a comedian. I can't speak to other art forms,
Speaker 1: but as a comedian, a lot of it is not
Speaker 1: overreacting to people's overreaction because, like you said, it's a
Speaker 1: very small minority.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and sometimes we let that stick with us more,
Speaker 4: you know. And I'm not just saying this to sound cool,
Speaker 4: but like I think I've moved beyond that a lot,
Speaker 4: you know, in terms of not caring about you know,
Speaker 4: and and focusing more on like making good stuff and
Speaker 4: not overreacting to a minority of people who don't like it, because,
Speaker 4: like you said, like the proof of the pudding is
Speaker 4: in what you've accomplished in real life. You know, you've
Speaker 4: managed to sell real so I must be doing something right. Yeah,
Speaker 4: meaning when people don't like it, it's my job to know.
Speaker 4: Part of my job is to not overreact to the
Speaker 4: to the other, to the minority of people who don't.
Speaker 1: One of the comments for your host day was the
Speaker 1: Asian guy isn't very funny, but if he can fix
Speaker 1: the Middle East, hire him full time. Oh okay, Well
Speaker 1: is that a good one. I feel like that's a
Speaker 1: fifty to fifty right, that's not that's not entirely bad, right.
Speaker 1: That's well, he's saying you're not funny, and that's your career,
Speaker 1: that's basically your entire job. Yeah, but he's also saying
Speaker 1: you fix the Middle East crisis, which is not your job.
Speaker 1: Complimenting you for something you have really no authority. The
Speaker 1: other comment on the same video for the co host
Speaker 1: was Michael Costa made this funny. Oh okay, and then
Speaker 1: I guess the intended host got COVID if Ronnie is
Speaker 1: hosting tonight? Was the other one? Well, I'm as surprised
Speaker 1: that that person was that I got the host. The
Speaker 1: final question I had for you because I tried to
Speaker 1: find one legitimate as you said, review of any of
Speaker 1: your week of hosting, and there wasn't my day, Your
Speaker 1: day sorry. And the one review I kind of found
Speaker 1: was about the sketch that we made. It was in
Speaker 1: huff Po and I'm pretty sure it was written by AI.
Speaker 1: It was there was a there was a guy that
Speaker 1: it was a attached to a name of a man.
Speaker 1: But the way it was written the sit and not
Speaker 1: to like drag this guy, but the way it was
Speaker 1: also it was like Ronnie Chang is Trump's scheduler, like
Speaker 1: it didn't know that maybe they didn't watch it, they
Speaker 1: didn't know you were playing a character and it basically yeah,
Speaker 1: I was I was wondering, are you happy that AI
Speaker 1: is going to take over all of blog? Like the
Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated thing just happened, and I'm sure did you
Speaker 1: hear about that?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated which just found out most of their articles
Speaker 1: were written by AI, really and the people working there
Speaker 1: didn't even know about it, like the writer's working there.
Speaker 1: So instead of like addressing it, Sports Illustrated just deleted
Speaker 1: all of their articles from online that were AI. AI
Speaker 1: asking me, what would are you happy that AI will
Speaker 1: replace all these people you hate? Because a lot of
Speaker 1: AI review is just kind of like, it's more just
Speaker 1: here's what happened, here's what happened, and it and like
Speaker 1: they use words like humorous, and they use words like
Speaker 1: send up. Like it's very generic, but it's never bad.
Speaker 1: I would say, I haven't read an AI article that's negative.
Speaker 4: I love they haven't learned how to be negative. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I would say I'm glad that AI is replacing these
Speaker 4: idiots because I don't think one should be paid professionally
Speaker 4: to complain with paid like maybe like two dollars, hopefully
Speaker 4: paid less, but I guess it would just make it more.
Speaker 4: It'll add to the illegitimacy of critiquing, which helps me,
Speaker 4: it helps you because then I'm like, and then you
Speaker 4: could be like, this review is fake. I could be
Speaker 4: like all review is pointless because it's all you can't
Speaker 4: separate the good ones on the bad ones and just
Speaker 4: ignore all it and judge for yourself.
Speaker 1: And to that point, that's kind of why I think
Speaker 1: you gravitate towards stand up, because you have to have
Speaker 1: an in real person foundation. Yeah, that's like a physical
Speaker 1: you see that's real in the moment you see that
Speaker 1: validation or that scorn happening in real time. Yes, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: yeah all right, well well right, we saw the stand
Speaker 1: up comedy, but bring it. You know you're gonna bring
Speaker 1: in the hateful comments.
Speaker 5: I have so many.
Speaker 1: Again, not a lot of hateful comments. Everyone loves Ronnie
Speaker 1: Chang and uh yeah, thanks for joining us here in
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