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Speaker 3: My obsessed friend keeps harassing me, leave me alone. About

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Speaker 3: a month ago, I, thirty six female, realized that every

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Speaker 3: time I saw a post from her, thirty seven female,

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Speaker 3: it made me upset. We don't even live in the

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Speaker 3: same state anymore, but I don't want her to have

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Speaker 3: this kind of control over my emotions anymore. By the way,

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Speaker 3: slash owcase stories. I'm Subredding, I'm Sophia, and I'm Riley.

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Speaker 4: Did you forget your Dave for second? There?

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say I was key On, I'm Riley,

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Speaker 3: I'm not key on.

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Speaker 2: I'm Sophia.

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Speaker 4: I think I'm key On.

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Speaker 3: There we go and OPI says background we weren't together

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Speaker 3: about ten years ago. For two years when we met,

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Speaker 3: she was incredibly negative and controlling, constantly telling me how

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Speaker 3: to make decisions in my life, like not getting a

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Speaker 3: dog because I wouldn't care for it properly. Well, ha,

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Speaker 3: my puppa will be seven this Halloween.

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Speaker 2: Joke's on you.

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Speaker 3: At the same time, she seemed to idolize me and

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Speaker 3: Claire I was her best friend almost.

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Speaker 2: Immediately interesting interesting dynamic.

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Speaker 3: There After knowing her for only two weeks, she became

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Speaker 3: upset and started crying because I didn't invite her to

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Speaker 3: a girl's night with my friends I'd known since high school.

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Speaker 3: She said she didn't have many friends and thought I

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Speaker 3: was really awesome. Hmmm. She begged me to invite her

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Speaker 3: to everything I did, and would bring up any instance

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Speaker 3: about it.

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Speaker 2: I know someone like this.

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Speaker 4: Do we know them?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Wait, can you make her? Can you meet?

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Speaker 4: Her?

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Speaker 3: Remarks?

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Speaker 2: No, it's all it's fine.

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Speaker 3: I want to know. Ah, I thought, Okay, everyone struggles sometimes.

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Speaker 3: Maybe she's just looking for friends. About three months after

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Speaker 3: meeting her, she started dating a guy from work. Cool.

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Speaker 3: I thought, perhaps it's the come boost she needed. To

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Speaker 3: feel better about herself. Fast forward a year and a half,

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Speaker 3: my friend insisted I'd be a bridesmaid one of two

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Speaker 3: at her wedding. Fine. She and her new husband bought

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Speaker 3: a house a mile and a half away from mine,

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Speaker 3: loudly proclaiming there will be much better houses, but we

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Speaker 3: got this one because we're so close now to you.

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Speaker 2: Guys, why are they trying to be so close to

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Speaker 2: you now?

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Speaker 3: We're so close to you? We love you? Omg josh okay.

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Speaker 3: Six months later, my fiance cheated on me. Yikes, I

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Speaker 3: left him, sold the house should My friend was furious

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Speaker 3: awful friend.

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Speaker 2: Girl Obi was cheated on.

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Speaker 3: She said she never would have bought that house if

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Speaker 3: she'd known I was gonna move?

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Speaker 2: Why are you buying houses based off of Op's whereabouts?

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Speaker 3: And that there was no point in her living there

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Speaker 3: now and complain that we aren't two couples anymore.

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Speaker 2: Dude at that born and I would cut her off

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Speaker 2: like if she said that, I'd be like, girl, do

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Speaker 2: you understand you gotta live your own life?

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Speaker 3: What we're getting out here going on? But a year later,

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Speaker 3: I was healthy and happy when I met some awesome

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Speaker 3: moved to another state. When I decided to marry my Brazilian,

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Speaker 3: I stupidly let her guilt trip me into making her

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Speaker 2: Girl, you can't let these type of people guilt trip

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Speaker 4: Things you didn't learn the first time.

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Speaker 2: Just let them be sad, yeah, or don't tell them

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Speaker 2: about I don't know.

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Speaker 4: That's also very crazy that you just call your partner

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Speaker 4: my Brazilian.

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Speaker 2: When I went to marry my Brazilian.

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Speaker 3: Whatever I think Brazilian man, I think of a hot

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Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, I don't think about it.

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Speaker 3: I think about or maybe that guy in Riley's mom's head.

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Speaker 4: Sure huh.

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Speaker 3: My soon to be Osmond invited his huge family. About

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Speaker 3: fifty people traveled from Brazil alone. She insisted on coming

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Speaker 3: was friends with her husband too. She missed her first flight,

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Speaker 3: as planned. She got so wasted at the rehearsal dinner

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Speaker 2: Isn't she like married? Uh?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yikes. After she'd been missing for about an hour,

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Speaker 3: other guys found them and alerted me, causing the entire

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Speaker 3: wedding to come crashing with the halt while more than

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Speaker 3: one hundred people ask each other, but isn't she married?

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Speaker 2: That's what I asked? Isn't she married?

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Speaker 3: This was especially frustrating after she'd insisted on dancing alone

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Speaker 3: during the anniversary dance because she wouldn't let her husband attend.

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Speaker 2: Because she wanted to go hook up with another guy.

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Speaker 3: She scowled me and made angry faces in every wedding picture,

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Speaker 3: even during her bridesmaid speech that she insisted on giving.

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Speaker 2: Oh pee, You need to learn a fantastic word. It's

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Speaker 2: called now. It works in any situation.

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Speaker 3: Fun fact, it's a complete sentence too.

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Speaker 2: A complete sentence.

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Speaker 4: You can also do the Spanish version, No for.

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Speaker 3: The German version yet or the Australian version nor Claire.

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Speaker 3: A year later, my husband and I were happily married

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Speaker 3: while she left her American husband and was trying to

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Speaker 3: immigrate to Brazil to be with the guy she cheated

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Speaker 3: on at my wedding. Hum. She constantly complained about how

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Speaker 3: things weren't going well or how she was somehow wronged.

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Speaker 3: In every situation, nothing was ever her fault. She blamed

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Speaker 3: her ex husband for their divorce and never told him

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Speaker 3: she cheated on him at my wedding. So yeah, if

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Speaker 3: she has no idea why I removed her from my life,

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Speaker 3: she's completely oblivious. Is it even worth responding? I feel like,

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Speaker 3: if you don't have anything nice to say, why light

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Speaker 2: You know, I would just cut her off, talk to

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Speaker 2: but definitely just cut her off. This woman is obsessed

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Speaker 2: with you. Yeah, and she models her entire life after you,

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Speaker 2: and that's just too much.

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Speaker 3: It is weird. Oh yeah, that's why she's getting after

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Speaker 3: the Brazilian guy.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 3: Comment number one. Here's the deal. If you had set

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Speaker 3: boundaries sooner, I'd say ignore her. But you have a

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Speaker 3: zero backphone in this relationship. You willingly participate in the

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Speaker 3: blossoming of the friendship. You let her into your life

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Speaker 3: despite allegedly not wanting to. You don't just ask people

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Speaker 3: to be a bridesmaid because they annoy you and not

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Speaker 3: I agree. You don't spend genuine and significant time with

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Speaker 3: the person and then act like it's all on them

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Speaker 3: and that they are just some nuisance. You completely enabled

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Speaker 3: her behavior. I agree, given the history of your relationship

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Speaker 3: with her, it seems typical now that you would do

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Speaker 3: another spineless thing, not confront her at all, and delete

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Speaker 3: her out of nowhere. This lady is clearly unhealthy and

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Speaker 3: probably codemindent, but you have not helped the situation. You

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Speaker 3: are no better. Please respond to her and be very

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Speaker 3: clear about what you did and why you did it.

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Speaker 3: You are one hundred percent correct to detach from her,

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Speaker 3: but ghosting is cruel and in this situation unjustified. Comment

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Speaker 3: to Yes, respond to her. She is a person and

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Speaker 3: used to be your friend. The compassionate thing to do

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Speaker 3: is respectfully respond to her once. Only once is enough.

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Speaker 3: Being compassionate also benefits yourself, not just the other person.

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Speaker 3: Tell her very respectfully why you did the thing that

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Speaker 3: Make it short and direct, Do not send her a paragraph,

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Speaker 3: say something like I value you as a person and

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Speaker 3: respect the friendship we used to have, but at this

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Speaker 3: point in my life, I just think we are two

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Speaker 3: our separate ways. Something like that, but obviously not the

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Speaker 3: exact same thing. Tailor it to fit your situation, but

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Speaker 3: make sure it's objective and clean.

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Speaker 2: I I agree. I think they talk.

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Speaker 3: We got an update.

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Speaker 2: I think talking to her is good just because you guys,

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Speaker 2: I mean, she was in your wedding. But yeah, I

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Speaker 2: agree with those comments in terms of Op's kind of

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Speaker 2: which it kind of seems like, oh, he never really

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Speaker 2: to lie and like have like continue that friendship. And

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Speaker 2: I'm not talking about I'm not talking about the type

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Speaker 3: It feels like you're leading them on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but like having this woman in your bridal party,

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Speaker 2: hanging out with her one on one, like living near her,

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Speaker 2: that is that's leading her on, and it's it's cruel. Yikes,

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Speaker 2: you know it's it's very reasonable that you don't want

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Speaker 2: her to be your friend, but like, like stop hanging

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Speaker 2: out with her at this point. Maybe tell her why.

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Speaker 3: I agree, Yeah, tell her why make it? Just say

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Speaker 3: it once and be done with it. I don't think

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Speaker 3: you gotta spend a lot of time.

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Speaker 2: Just be like, hey, I don't think this friendship is

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Speaker 3: About two weeks after I posted here, she sent a

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Speaker 3: message to my sister saying that I'm a lot of

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Speaker 3: trouble that after my last relationship ended, I forgot what

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Speaker 2: Her everything revolves around her.

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Speaker 3: Told my sister, I was jealous because her Brazilian man

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Speaker 3: is hotter than mine. What my husband that has a

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Speaker 3: six pack, where's a thong occasionally and it's just hot.

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Speaker 2: That's not what it says.

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Speaker 4: That's what I read Riley's projecting between the lines.

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Speaker 3: I don't want that. That's just what's embedded to my brain.

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Speaker 3: What did you Whenever you think of a goth chick,

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Speaker 3: you think of a chick wearing makeup and black hair, don't.

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Speaker 4: You, because that's what it is.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, that's what a Brazilian man is to me, hot.

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Speaker 2: Man in the speedo?

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Speaker 4: What did you grow up with that? Brazilian men?

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Speaker 3: Why are you so concerned with this? Keon?

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Speaker 4: You?

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Speaker 3: Good bro?

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Speaker 4: I'm so great, but I'm just concerned. I'm not concerned.

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Speaker 4: I think about Ail, I think about soccer.

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Speaker 4: And on and guess what easy thing you can also do?

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Speaker 3: I agree, I agreed. Hope you continues. She showed up

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Speaker 2: M boo good day.

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Speaker 3: Knows what that woman would have done if you lived

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you found out how Brazilian man.

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Speaker 3: Yay. Sophia's favorite part of the day is reading stories.

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Speaker 2: I stepped back from our friendship after she had a date,

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Speaker 3: You can't have your cake and eat it too, So I.

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Speaker 2: Twenty six mail talked to my close friend twenty four

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Speaker 3: Come on, it's like four What are you someone that

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Speaker 2: Out of this and this yet.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you are five, you are right now, it's not

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Speaker 2: we could talk and hang out pretty often, platonically, at

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Speaker 3: See why are you not with her if I'm talking

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Speaker 3: to three am every night? Yeah, you're in banking, you're

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Speaker 2: I don't talk to anyone until three am at night.

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Speaker 3: Actually, I've pulled like every time we see my boy

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I'm not.

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Speaker 3: We have a lot to catch up on.

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Speaker 2: We've known each other for a few years and met

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Speaker 3: And then you got her.

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Speaker 2: Now. Of course, I think both guys and gals can

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Speaker 3: I like Opie's respective on this, giving the you know respective, He's.

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Speaker 2: I think that if Opie and his friend had kind

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Speaker 3: I agreed. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: She said no, because she deserves a private life too. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 3: If Angie and I started dating today and we were

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Speaker 3: she's awesome, she's great. You'd love her. And I mentioned

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Speaker 2: No, I do you think it's kind of weird when

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Speaker 3: Also, I'm okay with girls having guy friends, but this

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Speaker 3: If that makes sense. You know what you see? Do

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Speaker 2: Well, I think there is a difference here because you're

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Speaker 3: Kind of dipping into the emotional assistance.

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Speaker 2: I would agree, which is which Opie understands. I completely

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Speaker 2: it can seem dang sucks. As for the boyfriend, I

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Speaker 2: to me more often than him. She's also mentioned that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I h why is she lying?

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Speaker 3: Why are you not dating?

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Speaker 2: Though?

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Speaker 3: Op?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think that if she's using you to talk

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Speaker 3: Like, for example, my girlfriend has a guy be's friend.

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Speaker 3: It's her neighbor that she grew up with. All the time,

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Speaker 3: let's catch up in great And I feel like you

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Speaker 4: I absolutely agree for guys not to have anything incommon. Oh,

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Speaker 4: you'll be like at least one thing.

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Speaker 3: Gold Star FORPI.

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Speaker 2: I do genuinely care for her and want the best

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Speaker 3: That's probably why she doesn't want to date you, is

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Speaker 2: Because you're ugly.

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Speaker 3: Dang Probably. I mean, the emotional side seems to be there,

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Speaker 2: Yesterday morning I woke up to some messages from some

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Speaker 2: I'll meet her again today to see just what is

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Speaker 2: I do want us to stay friends, of course, and

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Speaker 4: And also I'm doing this for you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just trying to create you know, I'm trying

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Speaker 3: She's probably going to everyone yeah, saying, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 3: he doesn't want to talk to me anymore, he hates me,

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Speaker 3: blah blah blah blahh.

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Speaker 2: That's not at all what's going on? Why are you

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Speaker 3: And some people are saying that the boyfriend's.

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Speaker 4: Fake, oh to get op jealous or something.

444
00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:55,000
Speaker 3: Ooh see how he really feels about the Relationshipah.

445
00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,200
Speaker 4: Get gem jealous or wound him up or something.

446
00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:01,479
Speaker 2: Like that blank Lizard says, definitely establish the boundaries. Let

447
00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,919
Speaker 2: her know you don't want any part in her dishonesty

448
00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,280
Speaker 2: with her boyfriend. I think it would probably help all

449
00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,720
Speaker 2: parties if you did meet. Could help put everyone at ease.

450
00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,560
Speaker 2: I think it's a little bizarre that she's keeping you

451
00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,359
Speaker 2: away from him, so I definitely ask her why that is.

452
00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,600
Speaker 2: It's also not your job to moderate her relationship with

453
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,080
Speaker 2: her boyfriend and who she talks to and how often.

454
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,800
Speaker 2: If boyfriend has a problem with how much she talks

455
00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:24,720
Speaker 2: to you, that's up to him to bring it up.

456
00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,359
Speaker 2: You sound like a supportive friend. I don't think you're

457
00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:31,280
Speaker 2: overstepping by maintaining that friendship. That said, if she's being

458
00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,359
Speaker 2: cagy over introducing the two of you for other reasons,

459
00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,200
Speaker 2: that's something you're gonna want to find out. Boo boop

460
00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:42,399
Speaker 2: boop boop beep, boop boop beep. She's acting weirdly possessive

461
00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,679
Speaker 2: of you. I would never talk to a friend the

462
00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,800
Speaker 2: way she's talking to you. Please think would you do

463
00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,239
Speaker 2: or say these things to a friend? And if your

464
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,720
Speaker 2: answer is no, then why are you making excuses for

465
00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,560
Speaker 2: this friend? Because she's never mahade like this before. It's

466
00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,280
Speaker 2: just your way of trying to minimize the situation. The

467
00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,200
Speaker 2: comments from mutual friends, such as her boyfriend is better

468
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 2: than you did not just come out of nowhere. She's

469
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,719
Speaker 2: talking negatively about you to others. There's just a lot

470
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,159
Speaker 2: of inappropriate behaviors going on here that should not be

471
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:14,400
Speaker 2: excused or minimized. Yum and Opie says, Yeah, you're probably right.

472
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 2: I don't really know what they talk about, as I

473
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,640
Speaker 2: don't appear in our friend group pretty often, so I'm

474
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,439
Speaker 2: not as tightly interwoven with them as her. I've just

475
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 2: been thinking back on a lot of the things and

476
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,960
Speaker 2: started noticing the small stuff when I was more oblivious

477
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 2: at the time. She always did this thing where she

478
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,720
Speaker 2: would tug on my shirt to get my attention or

479
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:34,920
Speaker 2: lightly slap my back when excited.

480
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 3: She likes you, well you.

481
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,560
Speaker 2: She would laugh really hard at dumb jokes so much

482
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 2: you then go really quiet if it seemed like I

483
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 2: ignored her when spacing out. When hanging out in group

484
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,200
Speaker 2: with said mutuals, she'd always be glued to my side,

485
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 2: even when I went to talk to some others across

486
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 2: the room.

487
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 3: Oblivious.

488
00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,439
Speaker 2: She would also interject when any of our female friends

489
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,119
Speaker 2: came up to talk to me about something and changed

490
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,199
Speaker 2: the subject to something else. If she wasn't invested. Thinking

491
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 2: on it, it's a tad creepy in a way. Her possessiveness,

492
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 2: as you call it, has sort of ramped up since

493
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 2: she announced to me that she was in a relationship.

494
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 2: One moment that stands out to me now is recently,

495
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 2: at a party, I jokingly asked her to wingman me tonight,

496
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 2: and she vehemently denied in all seriousness, stating, none of

497
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 2: these girls are good for you.

498
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,120
Speaker 3: Trust me, There's only one girl good enough for you here.

499
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,359
Speaker 2: Why are another girls good for ope?

500
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,920
Speaker 3: Oh girl, because there's only one that is worthy. Yeah,

501
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 3: it's her of unlocking his chastity belt, you know.

502
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,159
Speaker 2: I just shrugged it off. Is she keeping me as

503
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 2: a backup or something? I really don't see platonic friendships

504
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 2: working like this, Boo Boo Beep says. It definitely sounds

505
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 2: like she wants to keep you as a backup or

506
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 2: just as her guy friend that gives her all the

507
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 2: attention she wants yep, without the commitment.

508
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 3: That's what I was about to say, yeap.

509
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 2: Yeap, Yeah, yeah, exactly what she wants. Let me ask

510
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 2: you this, what do you think what happen to your

511
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 2: friendship with her? Once you have a girlfriend? Do you

512
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 2: think she'll be nice? Do you think she'll respect your relationship?

513
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 2: Keep in mind she's not respecting her own relationship. And

514
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 2: there is an update two days later.

515
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 3: Oh boy, Yeah, this is definitely.

516
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 2: He's finally figuring it out.

517
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 3: This is definitely the girl has a backup or another

518
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 3: friend that she gets all the attention to. I've seen

519
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 3: this happen where this guy and girl will be hanging out.

520
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 3: The guy kind of has a crush on her, but

521
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 3: she's not. She's just like, oh, we'll just be friends.

522
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:31,880
Speaker 3: And the guy's hanging out because he thinks there's still

523
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,440
Speaker 3: a chance. But then the guys going out kind of

524
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:35,920
Speaker 3: dating know the girls, and that girl gets a little

525
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,919
Speaker 3: jealous and starts getting a little bit more snappy and spiteful.

526
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 2: Because she doesn't have that attention anymore.

527
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 3: That's who you are, Opie, and you've gotten yourself in

528
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 3: slippery sloued, which I think you could if you like

529
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 3: your back you can definitely get out of this.

530
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 2: But it doesn't seem like Opie does. It seems like

531
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 2: he just wants friendship update two days later. So we

532
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 2: met a couple days ago and talked at our usual cafe.

533
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,160
Speaker 2: As soon as I walked in, she seems really awkward

534
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 2: in fidgety. Not a second after I sat down, she

535
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 2: blurted out an apology for snapping and storming off, as

536
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 2: well as all the things that were said from her

537
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 2: and by our mutual friends. I was about to apologize

538
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 2: as well, However, she told me I didn't need to

539
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 2: apologize for anything, and she had to really tell me

540
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 2: something and asked me to just keep an open mind.

541
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 3: Keep an open mind.

542
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 2: I think she's gotta confess. Confused, I nodded. She told

543
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 2: me that she wasn't exactly honest with me oh a while,

544
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 2: and that she's been lying to me. It turns out

545
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 2: she never had a boyfriend.

546
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 3: You guys were right, What the hell?

547
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 2: I'm shocked. I was like, No, there's no way, there's

548
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 2: no way that she could lie to everyone.

549
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 3: Crazy did crazy?

550
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 2: No, wonder all your guys' friends were like, what, like, oh,

551
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 2: why are you switching up? Why are you not being

552
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 2: friends with her?

553
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 3: He lives in Canada, he goes to a different school,

554
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 3: all the things. He's just not in town right now.

555
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 2: I'm shocked. I'm shocked.

556
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 3: No sense you guys called that I was.

557
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 2: I didn't believe you, guys.

558
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 3: I was kind of on the fence about it, but

559
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 3: I was more on the no. I was on the

560
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 3: no side. I thought he was real. Also, OP never

561
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 3: said I know what a social looks like, yeah, or

562
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 3: try to reach out because Ope seems like the guy that.

563
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 2: Well, we just believe that he existed, So I believed Op.

564
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:15,880
Speaker 4: Again.

565
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 5: The thing that really stood out to me is like,

566
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 5: I've never met the guy or talked to the guy,

567
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 5: and we have nothing in common.

568
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing is Yeah, yeah, she called out. It turns

569
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 2: out that she has liked me for a long time.

570
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 3: Now I called it.

571
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 2: Well, that wasn't that well, But because of how long

572
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 2: we've been friends, she didn't know how to bring it

573
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 2: up and instead made a fake boyfriend. Our mutual friends

574
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 2: decided to help her out. Everyone was in on this

575
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 2: and cook up a story about her having a boyfriend

576
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,199
Speaker 2: to test the waters and see if I would be

577
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 2: jealous and awaken my feelings and fight for her. This

578
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 2: is becoming a TV drama. Oh my god, all of

579
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 2: your friends are dumb.

580
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 4: Also, they probably didn't know to that extent.

581
00:25:59,240 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 3: Nob they knew.

582
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:00,919
Speaker 2: They cooked up the story.

583
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 3: Also, if she's this crazy as friends as friends, think

584
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 3: how crazy it's gonna be under the sheets.

585
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 2: Oh wait, no, okay.

586
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,880
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, come on, Kean, back me up here,

587
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 3: don't back them up, back me up here.

588
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 2: Don't back them up, Kean, don't back them out. If

589
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 2: they're toxic out here, think about that and Mingming, I

590
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 2: think they're like twenty.

591
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 4: Five a starfish who knows no wonder.

592
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 2: I knew next to nothing about the boyfriend. She was

593
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 2: trying to spin the story that she was keeping our

594
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 2: friendship a secret as to, in her words, keep the

595
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 2: door open for me. She started hinting that her boyfriend

596
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 2: started getting nosy and a little jealous of how much

597
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 2: we talk as to start stirring the pot with me.

598
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:40,719
Speaker 3: Dude.

599
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 2: However, that had literally the opposite effect. As soon as

600
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 2: I started trying to help her fix her boyfriend issue,

601
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,360
Speaker 2: she thought it was a good sign and we could

602
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 2: start broaching the topic of relationships. I know the sounds

603
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 2: convoluted as f and I'm just as confused as y'all are.

604
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 3: You can watching too much TV, girl, This is crazy.

605
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 2: You just talk to him, talk to him, be an

606
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 2: adult your feelings.

607
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,919
Speaker 3: I like you also, Opie, how oblivious do you have

608
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 3: to be to now understand that, OPI, that this girl

609
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 3: has a crush on you, Like what talking to three

610
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 3: o'clock in the morning and you don't even think she

611
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 3: has a crush on you?

612
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 2: Literally, I'm like, that was never that was never put

613
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 2: on it.

614
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 3: If I ever talked to a girl past three o'clock

615
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 3: in the mornings because I somewhat have a crush on

616
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 3: her multiple nights in a row or more than one night.

617
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 2: There's no way that you were disrupting your sleep schedule

618
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 2: that much, unless, like some or at least one person.

619
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 3: Has feeling I could probably chut out with Sophia like

620
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 3: once till three o'clock in the morning, but after that

621
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 3: it wouldn't be multiple nights. I couldn't do that. I

622
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 3: get so bored to her.

623
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 2: After that I would be asleep, She wouldn't be away.

624
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 3: Riley, you have to go to bed.

625
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 2: Okay, let's play red den redemption.

626
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 4: She probably thought, because this girl seems like the type

627
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 4: to overthink a bunch and like make this elaborate plan.

628
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 4: The fact that like she's probably like he doesn't get

629
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 4: the hint, like I touched his back.

630
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I touched his back.

631
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 4: I rubbed his back like multiple times, and I'm like

632
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 4: close to him. He should understand. Maybe he just like

633
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 4: needs the next an extra push.

634
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 2: Though, from my perspective, she flatly refused any of my

635
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 2: suggestions to assuage her imaginary boyfriend's jealousy, So I just

636
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 2: suggested to her that we should tone us down a bit.

637
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 2: This apparently frustrated her, and that led to her blow up.

638
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 2: She vented to her friends and they pestered me a

639
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 2: bit idiots, telling me I'm throwing away something good and

640
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,919
Speaker 2: all that. That's when some comments from our mutuals started

641
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 2: making even more sense.

642
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 3: They're just trying to you, knowing wing woman badly.

643
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 4: You think one of your friends would have been like, hey,

644
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 4: like low key, she like this is just because she

645
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 4: likes you.

646
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. Also, whatever TV show, reality TV show you

647
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 3: guys are all watching together on Thursday night, it pixel melts.

648
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 2: They're all watching the summer I Turn pretty, and they're

649
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 2: getting all of their advice from that check.

650
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 3: I was gonna say that, but I didn't want to

651
00:28:58,480 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 3: offend you some No, you said it.

652
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 2: If anyone's getting their relationship advice from the summer, I

653
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 2: turn pretty stop or Euphoria stop. Those those shows are

654
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 2: not for relationship advice. It's to point and be like, ah,

655
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 2: these people are terrible at relationships. At that point, I

656
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 2: just had a blank expression, trying to dismantle the most

657
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 2: complicated pick up attempt of my life. So I just

658
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 2: asked her what in her right mind would make this

659
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 2: entire setup even remotely work in the real world. Crickets,

660
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 2: but there is a little bit left to this story. Yeah,

661
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 2: these people are too old to be acting this stupid.

662
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Speaker 3: Honestly, this happened to me, and I found her attractive.

663
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Speaker 3: I'd be down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd be like kind of flattered, You're crazy kind

665
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Speaker 2: of flatter.

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Speaker 3: I like the intention here, I like the work and

667
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Speaker 3: efforts all for me. Yeah that I kind of would

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Speaker 3: in a way.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 3: But once we're getting that relationship, we're gonna boundaries. We're

671
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Speaker 3: gonna have to get some things.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna rework some stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna rewire some brains.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you okay, wait, poll, do you think that

675
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Speaker 2: Ope is going to go for this?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: No, I think no, I don't think so. I think no, Yeah,

678
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Speaker 3: never did we Once hear him say I like her,

679
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Speaker 3: but maybe it's pretty.

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Speaker 2: But maybe that maybe it's like a switcheroo, you know,

681
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Speaker 2: where he's like he realizes after, just like he realizes,

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Speaker 2: I don't know who's like. I didn't even consider her

683
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 2: before because she had a boyfriend. Okay, now I realized

684
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Speaker 2: she doesn't. I actually do like her.

685
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Speaker 3: Oh that there could be something there because they're no

686
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Speaker 3: longer dating.

687
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 4: So everyone saw something there.

688
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone saw something there except for OP.

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Speaker 2: Except for Op.

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Speaker 4: That's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 3: But then Op needed to come to his own consistence

693
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Speaker 3: about it exactly. They were broken up, so then he

694
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Speaker 3: could He was like, oh, wow, this actually might be something.

695
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Speaker 4: And OP was like, hmm, maybe I think I like this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that makes sense.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that makes sense for OP.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: She just apologized again for all this drama and was

700
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Speaker 2: bold enough to ask if we can be an item

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Speaker 2: or at the very least go back to how things were.

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Speaker 3: I don't. I don't, I don't.

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Speaker 2: We're not very split, but we got three votes yes,

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Speaker 2: nine votes no. At this point I just felt a

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Speaker 2: rolling headache and was still processing everything. Still am really

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Speaker 2: I just told her I need some space for now

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Speaker 2: to consider this fiasco here I am. Now I'm probably

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Speaker 2: not gonna dater.

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Speaker 3: No oh pay for love love.

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Speaker 2: I thought she'd known me long enough that she could

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00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 2: have just asked me to my face and I would

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00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 2: have given it serious consideration. Now I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: I'm still going through with it and taking a step

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Speaker 2: back from all of this, including the mutuals. Thanks for reading, guys.

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Speaker 2: It seems like, oh p he's.

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Speaker 3: No OPI is definitely not physically attracted to her, because

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Speaker 3: if he was, he would definitely make it happen because

718
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Speaker 3: the emotional aspect is there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we know they have emotional connection.

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Speaker 3: Oh you got to do is be like I find

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Speaker 3: you spicily like looking good, and I'm just I just

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Speaker 3: let's talk together, right. All that stuff can't fix crazy, no,

723
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Speaker 3: but you can sure have fun with it.

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Speaker 2: EWW, We've got another story, folks, because that one's over.

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Speaker 3: He's Johnny og host here.

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Speaker 3: our sponsors. I'm uninviting a friend I never actually invited

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Speaker 3: in the first place.

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Speaker 2: Well, then it's not a problem.

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Speaker 3: My fiance Mike thirty four. Mail has an acquaintance Jin,

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Speaker 3: thirties female, and it's looking like we will have to

733
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Speaker 3: uninvite her, though she was never actually invited to our

734
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Speaker 3: wedding to begin with. We know Jin through mutual friends,

735
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Speaker 3: but in our wider social circles she's on the fringe

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Speaker 3: due to incidents that happened years before we were around.

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Speaker 3: being in a serious relationship and moving in with her partner,

741
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Speaker 3: Gin has made it clear she has a crush on Mike,

742
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Speaker 3: my husband, oh sorry, my fiance. There was a period

743
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Speaker 3: where she was text bombing him constantly. On the most

744
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 3: active day, she see him over fifty messages fifty. She

745
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Speaker 3: tried flirting and asked him to meet up for drinks

746
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 3: alone after work. Mike doesn't reciprocate those feelings, and since

747
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Speaker 3: decline any one on one interaction good. He shared the

748
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Speaker 3: message threads with me because he saw the red flags

749
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Speaker 3: and didn't want any room for doubt. When things were

750
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 3: less obvious, she tried arranging double dates but we generally declined.

751
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 3: One time we went out with him, she made a

752
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Speaker 3: butt of herself at the restaurant with gross PDA displays

753
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 3: and trying to dive into spicy sleep talk with kids

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Speaker 3: with then earshot at the next table.

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Speaker 2: No, let's not do that. Let's be aware, be aware

756
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Speaker 2: when we're out and about.

757
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Speaker 3: I was a waiter one time and I walked in

758
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Speaker 3: on these adults sharing their Adam and Eve search histories

759
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Speaker 3: and showing what they were going to get each other.

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Speaker 3: And there was a double date. It was like two.

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Speaker 4: I was like, ah, I don't actually know what that

762
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Speaker 4: is they were telling you.

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Speaker 3: No, I just walked up on it while I was like,

764
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Speaker 3: what do you guys want to drink?

765
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 4: And they're like, they're like each other.

766
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Speaker 2: And you left. You walked around.

767
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Speaker 3: I wanted to. It was a weird table. All of us,

768
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 3: including her partner, told her we weren't comfortable with where

769
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 3: she was pushing the conversation. She pouted and said we

770
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Speaker 3: weren't any fun. She made a big show of wanting

771
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 3: to be girlfriends with me in front of Mike, but

772
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 3: I've never heard from her since. She's made zero effort.

773
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 3: This past weekend, we learned that Jin has been telling

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00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 3: others in our social circles that she's invited to our

775
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 3: wedding and asking about our gift registry. We don't have one.

776
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 3: We're having a tiny ceremony with less than ten people

777
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 3: and a bigger catered party, but the guest list is

778
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 3: still under fifty due to cost and our friend's backyard capacity.

779
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Speaker 3: And even if we weren't having an intentional small wedding,

780
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,240
Speaker 3: she still wouldn't be invited because neither of us considered

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00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 3: her an actual friend.

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Speaker 2: I have known people in my like throughout my life

783
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Speaker 2: as like, when you are the person who hosts parties,

784
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 2: there's always people that want to come to these parties,

785
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 2: and it's very hard to like invite certain people and

786
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Speaker 2: then not others, and you have to be very careful

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Speaker 2: about how you do that because you want to you

788
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 2: don't want to exclude people, but also don't want to

789
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 2: invite people that you don't like, and some people will

790
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 2: just invite themselves and you have to be like, Okay,

791
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 2: I guess they're coming to the party, but it is annoying.

792
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think I have two people in my mind.

793
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Speaker 2: You might know one of them, but this is just

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00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 2: kind of like throughout my life. Yeah, as a as

795
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Speaker 2: a person who hosts a lot.

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Speaker 3: She's herd. She wasn't invited to his stag party, which

797
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 3: was just a board game night, but she was never

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Speaker 3: in consideration. She also complained that I overlooked her for

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Speaker 3: a shower or bachelorette. I didn't even have a shower

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Speaker 3: because we already are established homeowners and have zero reason

801
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Speaker 3: to invite someone who's been disrespectful and isn't my friend.

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00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,919
Speaker 2: It's just you're not my friend.

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00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, two separate friends, let us know Jen is spreading

804
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Speaker 3: this tale.

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00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 2: I would be like, Oh, I'm just confused. We're not friends.

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00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 3: We're not friends. This is weird. We're trying to get

807
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 3: with my husband and it's not working. I feel like

808
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 3: she's doing anything she can to get to the husband.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.

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00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 3: One tried to understand why she was lying, but by

811
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 3: keeping casual and playing dumb, but she kept invading their questions.

812
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 3: My guess is she's doing this for two reasons. One,

813
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 3: she believes she and Mike are friends and her feelings

814
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 3: are hurt, and she's possibly trying to ferret out details

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Speaker 3: about the ceremony and party locations. We don't think anyone

816
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 3: we invited would share this information given the general history. No,

817
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 3: there's a chance she could manipulate it out of someone.

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00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 3: We decided we need a direct conversation with gen Via

819
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Speaker 3: text to make it clear she's not invited and that

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00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 3: her behavior is bizarre. After the conversation, we planned a

821
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 3: blocker on social media and messaging platforms. Is this unhinged? Yes?

822
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 3: Should I vote energy to a thirty something woman who

823
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 3: behaves this way? No? Is this totally absurd? Yes? Does

824
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 3: she need serious help? Definitely?

825
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Speaker 2: I just think if you've shown her no indication that

826
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 2: you guys are friends and she just keeps inviting her, like,

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00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 2: you can absolutely put boundaries down and say, hey, I

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Speaker 2: just like, these are kind of closer people in our

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Speaker 2: life that are coming to these events, So I'm gonna

830
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Speaker 2: have to put up some boundaries.

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Speaker 3: I agree, short and simple, to the point.

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Speaker 2: You've never you've never, seemingly never given her any indication

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Speaker 2: that you guys are friends. So I don't know why.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I really would like it's so weird. The thing

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Speaker 3: I don't like to read about Reddit stories is I

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Speaker 3: can't put face names to faces or understand dynamics of

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Speaker 3: you know whatnot. That would be so much nicer if

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Speaker 3: I know a friend dynamic and it would be helpful.

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Speaker 3: I just need five minutes of a video of who

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Speaker 3: everyone is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just give me a whole Mmm.

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Speaker 5: I would love like especially when when you like read

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Speaker 5: their like they're like their parentheses, you know what they said. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I want a voice recording how they actually sound like,

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Speaker 5: because sometimes we could be misconstruing it, where like she

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Speaker 3: I agree, because some stories, some things could be misconstrued

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Speaker 3: over text and actually means another thing than the tone

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Speaker 3: that was said.

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Speaker 2: But here does seem pretty straightforward that she's just not

851
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Speaker 2: your friend.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's weird behavior.

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Speaker 3: Opie seems to be snippeted in the bud right now

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Speaker 3: in this update.

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Speaker 3: Three months later, it's been a while to get back

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Speaker 3: to this. Summer has been busy with final wedding planning details. Previously,

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Speaker 3: I posted about having to uninvite my soon to be

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Speaker 3: husband's acquaintance Jin, even though she was neither invited and

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00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 3: would never be invited. The background is that Jin was

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Speaker 3: interested in Mike and making it obvious despite being in

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Speaker 3: a committed relationship. Mike wasn't interested and thought that politely

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Speaker 3: showing no reciprocation would let her crush run its course. Instead,

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Speaker 3: she started telling mutual friends we had invited her when

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Speaker 3: we had it, and complained about never being invited to

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Speaker 3: stag or bachelorette parties despite lacking friendship with either of them.

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Speaker 2: That's so weird. And her friends weren't like, well, you

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Speaker 2: guys aren't that close. Yeah, why would you be invited

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Speaker 2: to those? You're not that close.

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Speaker 3: Some friends just want you to hear what you want

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Speaker 3: to hear.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just like, yeah, yes men.

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Speaker 3: Uh nev nevan Eva. We weren't initially concerned about her

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Speaker 3: upon us that we should be more worried. We took

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Speaker 3: those comments to heart, and we set up measures with

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Speaker 3: vendors to prevent her from meddling. The venue owner our

881
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 3: friend whose backyard were using agree she likely won't show up,

882
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 3: but has security measures in place. Oh wow, including voice

883
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 3: and movement activated cameras that would alert him if she

884
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 3: appeared at the driveway. Okay, how did the voice thing when?

885
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh it's weird. It's like you hear you hear

886
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 2: like a scuffle, someone's whispering in the bushes, and it's

887
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 2: like someone's in the bushes.

888
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 3: The way the property is configured, she'd have to go

889
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 3: through the house and she wouldn't make it that far.

890
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 3: The conversation with Gin happened while I was helping a

891
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 3: friend who broke their wrist and needed a ride to

892
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 3: the er. Mike added me as a third to the

893
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 3: text conversation, so I caught up to it afterward in

894
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 3: the waiting room. Mike opened by wanting to understand if

895
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 3: there was some misunderstanding, noting the confusion it was causing. Surprisingly,

896
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 3: Jin didn't object to my inclusion and feigned concern about

897
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 3: the stress those rumors were creating, rumors you started.

898
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, She's like, oh, it's terrible, it's terrible that

899
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 2: these rumors are are flying around.

900
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

901
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 2: I would never want that, And they're like you, you

902
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 2: you started them.

903
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 3: No, I would never want that for you guys, she

904
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 3: started a wildfire and isn't giving Opie or Mike a

905
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 3: bucket of water.

906
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 2: She's actively fanning the flames, and she's like, Oh, this

907
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 2: is terrible. Oh it's gonna burn your house down. Oh

908
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 2: it's so bad.

909
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 3: He pointed out that two separate people had noted her

910
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:21,399
Speaker 3: complaints about being excluded from pre wedding celebrations and her

911
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 3: claims about being invited to our wedding. Jen denied it

912
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 3: at first. She insisted she had it spoken to at

913
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 3: least one of them, and that whatever she said to

914
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 3: the other was probably a misunderstanding. Her vision was that

915
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 3: she understood she hadn't been invited and assumed her exclusion

916
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 3: was expense spase. She also said she didn't expect to

917
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 3: be invited to pre wedding events because it would be

918
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 3: weird to have a girl at an all male bachelor party,

919
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:55,240
Speaker 3: assuming it would involve spicy gloves. Mike's actual stag party

920
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 3: is a board game night, because that's a hobby that

921
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 3: gives him joy. But he didn't get into those details.

922
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 3: He just responded that he chose an activity he liked,

923
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 3: he had nothing to do with gender, and he was

924
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 3: keeping it small. Mike responded to her wedding invite denial

925
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 3: was showing her screenshots conversations with the people who brought

926
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 3: this to our attention. They'd given full permission to share. Wow,

927
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 3: He's like receipts, Yeah, he's got it all. Liar.

928
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 2: He's like, I know you're a liar, and I proove.

929
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 3: Jen's tone immediately shifted and she started insisting on moving

930
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,399
Speaker 3: to video chat. Weird, if if you're kind of losing

931
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 3: about it, why are you going to video chat?

932
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 2: I don't know what Jen wants here?

933
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 3: Jen is mysterious, Mike denied. She kept denying what she said,

934
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 3: insisted those people were lying and causing drama, and got

935
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:54,240
Speaker 3: increasingly upset with all caps, typing and excessive exclamation points,

936
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 3: claiming people in our social group never let her move

937
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 3: on from the past, and we're out to her, and

938
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 3: then you.

939
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 2: Send that to all the people that she's that have

940
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 2: said that she's spreading the rumors.

941
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 3: And then you block her exactly. Mike responded, and he

942
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 3: was sorry if that was the case. He didn't hold

943
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,439
Speaker 3: those sentiments and wasn't around when that all went down,

944
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 3: but wanted to emphasize two points. First, an invitation to

945
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,760
Speaker 3: the wedding was absolutely not on the table, and second,

946
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 3: while he considered them friendly, his takeaway from their interactions

947
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 3: was that she was interested in him in a way

948
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 3: that he could not reciprocate if he misread her intentions.

949
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 3: There was at least a desire for friendship he didn't

950
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 3: feel was appropriate to pursue because much of what she

951
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 3: wanted to discuss was awkward and inappropriate given that he

952
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 3: really doesn't know her. He's engaged and she has a

953
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 3: long term partner.

954
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, they both they all are taken.

955
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 3: And Jin's gonna take this. Yeah, well no with a

956
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 3: maturity No, and in a way probably moved past this

957
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 3: with humility. No. At that point, she kept reiterating how

958
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 3: no one would ever let her move on from ten

959
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:13,240
Speaker 3: years ago.

960
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 2: It's like, no, that was yesterday girl, and was.

961
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 3: Upset that no one would recognize her efforts at changing,

962
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 3: claiming the wider social group went out of their way

963
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 3: to bully neurodivergent people. She didn't provide a reason or

964
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 3: apology for making things uncomfortable with her flirting attempts. I'm

965
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:31,879
Speaker 3: confused what happened ten years ago?

966
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like she's claiming that all

967
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 2: of this stuff that's coming up right now happened ten

968
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 2: years ago, when it's like, no, like you're actively creating

969
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:39,760
Speaker 2: issues today.

970
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I don't really did she cheat or something?

971
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 3: And then she feels like these friends are trying to

972
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 3: come after her.

973
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 2: I don't understand.

974
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 3: Did we miss something?

975
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 2: I don't know? She does keep bringing up the ten

976
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 2: years thing.

977
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 3: He started to tell her it was probably good in

978
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 3: the conversation since they weren't going to resolve this, but

979
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 3: she beat him to it by blocking him. A few

980
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 3: days later, Mike got messages from her partner, who was

981
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 3: upset that Jin was being attacked and bullied by us

982
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,800
Speaker 3: because of her checkered past and present.

983
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 2: Her checkered present, she's annoying. What Also, your freaking partner

984
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 2: is in love with another guy. Dude, why are you

985
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 2: defending her?

986
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 3: The guy was trying to defend her, which I understand,

987
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 3: and he wasn't around for those past events. Also, Jin's

988
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 3: not giving him the full idea of what's happening.

989
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 2: Absolutely lying to him as she has done to everyone else.

990
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 3: Based on his messages, I assume Jin misrepresented the past

991
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 3: to him as well. Mike thank him for reaching out,

992
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 3: said he understood he was being protective and asked what

993
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 3: the partner understood about everything. The partner repeated Jin's version

994
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 3: that her good friend Mike was being a bad friend

995
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 3: by excluding her and allowing others to bully her about

996
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 3: being autistic and past behavior, and that we had abruptly

997
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 3: uninvited her because I decided she was a threat and

998
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 3: was jealous. Mike sat him straight by explaining he never

999
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 3: considered Jin a close friend, friendly at best, and wasn't

1000
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 3: around for those past events, so his opinions of Gin

1001
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 3: were his own. He made it clear Jin had never

1002
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,240
Speaker 3: been invited to the wedding in the first place.

1003
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 2: Yes, she was never supposed to come.

1004
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 3: He also shared that Jin had been inappropriate in communication

1005
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 3: with flirty texts, emojis and request to meet one on one,

1006
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 3: offering to share those messages.

1007
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, show this guy that good, show him the proof.

1008
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,240
Speaker 3: Keon, have you seen this happen before?

1009
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 4: Not to this extent?

1010
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 5: No, okay, No, It's it's like we did have somebody

1011
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 5: that we're like, we don't want you to hang out

1012
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 5: with us anymore. Yeah, and they're like, oh okay, and

1013
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 5: they would keep asking, but they wouldn't like do this.

1014
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:49,240
Speaker 4: This is this is weird?

1015
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 2: Is bad?

1016
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 4: This is really bad.

1017
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 2: This is bad. She keeps doing it. Yeah, I think that, Like, uh,

1018
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 2: I think you've done it. You give the proof to

1019
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 2: the partner and then you say, hey, we're really just

1020
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 2: not friends with her.

1021
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 3: Sorry.

1022
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 2: If you're upset about this, goodbye, block.

1023
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 3: Onto my neurodivergent thing. If she is autistic, and she

1024
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 3: might have trouble understanding social cues, but Mike did the

1025
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 3: right thing by telling her straight up how he felt

1026
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 3: and doing it bluntly. Not bluntly, but clearly. But she

1027
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 3: still went out of her way to lying to her partner.

1028
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, you don't just get away with everything

1029
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 2: just because you say you're a nerd A version.

1030
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:26,760
Speaker 3: It's weird.

1031
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 2: It's not a free pass.

1032
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 3: We got a little bit left here. Jin's partner asked

1033
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 3: to see some of it. Ooh uh oh, and Mike

1034
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:39,919
Speaker 3: shared the more obvious, blatant examples. The partner didn't say

1035
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:44,439
Speaker 3: much after that, just thanked Mike and the conversation went away.

1036
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 3: We haven't heard from him since. But my guess is

1037
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 3: our version didn't match hers, and the jig was up.

1038
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 3: Jin made some vague social media posts about being betrayed

1039
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 3: and misunderstood, but Mike didn't take debate. He hasn't blocked

1040
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 3: her on Instagram because he wants to keep tabs for now,

1041
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 3: but she's mostly back to her usual content selfies. About

1042
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 3: a month later, we ran into her at a birthday party.

1043
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,720
Speaker 3: She didn't say anything to either of us, but didn't

1044
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 3: look happy to see us. We kept our distance, stayed cordial.

1045
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 3: No drama resulted, no word on her partner. All I

1046
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 3: know is he didn't come with her that night. We

1047
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 3: weren't going to ask.

1048
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 2: There we are and they broke up. Yeah, they broke

1049
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 2: up and you never have to see Jen again.

1050
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 3: Yay kind Oh no, she has a mastermind plan to

1051
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,240
Speaker 3: get Mike into her pants.

1052
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 2: I surely hope not. Watch out for Jen.

1053
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 3: People are smart.

1054
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:40,280
Speaker 2: She's a tricksy one.

1055
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 3: She might you never know.

1056
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 2: That's the end of that story and the end of

1057
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 2: this episode. So if you love us, make sure to subscribe.

1058
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Speaker 3: We love you and see you tomorrow.