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Speaker 1: Radio your Network alongside Frankie Stamfell. I am Greg Sauceman.
Speaker 1: Frank what's going on? Yes, that is what's going on.
Speaker 1: Tell me that like whenever from probably three but like
Speaker 1: three hours or four hours from now, I'm gonna feel
Speaker 1: I'm gonna run home. I'm gonna feel like Cory. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I'm going to run home. Open whatever is in the
Speaker 1: apartment and immediately down it the closest I PA that
Speaker 1: you can closest I V I could find the ivy's
Speaker 1: gonna get you man, like I had a buddy those things.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's part of the reason why it probably
Speaker 1: takes me a little more. Like I drink crappy like
Speaker 1: whatever bud light. Yeah, don't mock you background dude, Like
Speaker 1: I didn't. I feel so old in saying this, and
Speaker 1: I never felt like this before. But like, I had
Speaker 1: a housewarming last night for a buddy, like within a
Speaker 1: new apartment whatever. So we all went somebody's birthday also,
Speaker 1: and I had like, I jook him quickly because I
Speaker 1: enjoy them, you know, And then next thing, you know,
Speaker 1: it's just like you're feeling something when you just did
Speaker 1: not expect that. I don't feel that often because personally,
Speaker 1: I don't like I p a. I will tell you this, Greg,
Speaker 1: I've ventured outside of crappy light beer a little bit
Speaker 1: more recently. I've been drinking blue Point summer ow very good.
Speaker 1: Oh you're you're in the summer else. That's cool? Yeah
Speaker 1: you madam somewhere else? Pretty good. Favorite. I love the
Speaker 1: blue Have you tried the Bluepoint suwherew I have? It's good,
Speaker 1: It's very good. It's good. It's a little too um
Speaker 1: no like, but it's pretty good. Someone's buying us drink today.
Speaker 1: Is that correct? Yes, our guy Constantine said he's going
Speaker 1: to meet up like four thirty here, be fantastic. So
Speaker 1: he already bought me a beer at the game. He'll
Speaker 1: probably buy me another beer. You have to. He doesn't
Speaker 1: have to write, but I have a feeling he will,
Speaker 1: and he in turn he will earn himself a beer.
Speaker 1: We will be happy to buy him a beer. Look,
Speaker 1: we've advertised this deal for a long time. Constantine is
Speaker 1: can take yourself on it. Probably about I want to
Speaker 1: see six to eight months down. No one has seen
Speaker 1: myself on the offer like that except Constantine. Yeah. I'm
Speaker 1: excited to have a drink the Constantine, and hopefully more
Speaker 1: than one. Yeah, you guys want a beer, come here,
Speaker 1: you can see it last beers. I like look in
Speaker 1: the mirror today and like looking at the bags in
Speaker 1: your eyes and like they're only getting worse. You noticed
Speaker 1: that also, you're starting to look like a little bit
Speaker 1: you think, so, yeah, I see it's not gonna shave
Speaker 1: you start you start doing like a little little fox
Speaker 1: hawk thing. You just try it, but like let the
Speaker 1: let the goatee come in, just let everything hang out.
Speaker 1: You what's funny? So last night, I matter not this thing,
Speaker 1: and my friend's girlfriend was literal or fiance was literally like,
Speaker 1: do you need a haircut? Like she? It wasn't like
Speaker 1: my friend or my girlfriend, it was her. This is
Speaker 1: a need a haircut. Haircuts is where we've gotten. What
Speaker 1: do you think of my hair? Greg? I ask you
Speaker 1: this earlier. I said, I have a very serious question.
Speaker 1: How does my hair look? That's fine? Well Max Massive
Speaker 1: doesn't like my hair like hair. I'm sorry, Greg, Yo, Frank,
Speaker 1: your hair sucks. What is this? It's kind of fair,
Speaker 1: kind looks like boy meets the world type thing. I'm
Speaker 1: totally down with it, though. Yeah, I think that's kind
Speaker 1: of what I was. I don't really know him anymore. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's honestly just too long. I don't know what to
Speaker 1: do in the morning with it. Why does you shave
Speaker 1: it off? I don't know a good question. That you're
Speaker 1: gonna let let it grow for a while and then
Speaker 1: you're done with that. It's just I One of the
Speaker 1: things I hate in this world is well, that too,
Speaker 1: is showering in the morning. I just want to roll
Speaker 1: out of bed and just like brush my teeth and
Speaker 1: go to work. I love showering. The morning shower at night. UM,
Speaker 1: I just want to do as little as possible before
Speaker 1: I have to leave us go to work and coming
Speaker 1: here that are coming here that early, I know it's
Speaker 1: not a morning person, Like, yeah you're not. Frank's very
Speaker 1: ground you early in the morning. Um has been terrible
Speaker 1: for a week or two now. So like your okay,
Speaker 1: like my hair, so okay. We have we spent all
Speaker 1: we talking about running backs. We're gonna do that today.
Speaker 1: Monday's to be an auction show. Drew, I don't think
Speaker 1: that have Drew Dickmyer on the program as well, so
Speaker 1: that canna be cool. But today we want to we
Speaker 1: want to to finish out the running backs, the names.
Speaker 1: We haven't gotten to the handcuffs, and I wanted to
Speaker 1: start kind of where we ended yesterday, which was with
Speaker 1: Kenyan Drake. Now you said I'm still buying Kenyan Drake
Speaker 1: and you're still off of j G. I. Those are
Speaker 1: the last two, if I'm I'm correct, Frankie, that we
Speaker 1: ended with. Yeah, we spoke a little bit of teammates
Speaker 1: mark Ingram Yeah, I think yeah. We ended around that
Speaker 1: like top twenty four range. We didn't really get into
Speaker 1: like the rookies, carry On Johnson, Ronald Jones, Isaiah Crowell.
Speaker 1: Look a little bit about Jamal Williams, who did get
Speaker 1: banged up last night, so we have to see what
Speaker 1: happens there. But yeah, I think that's kind of the
Speaker 1: range we were at. We're like just outside the top twenty. Okay,
Speaker 1: So what you want to talk about those guys now? Yeah? Right, Well,
Speaker 1: you know, I love carry On Johnson. I've been talking
Speaker 1: about him for a while. Now. I look, it's just
Speaker 1: a lot of the same that I've been saying. I
Speaker 1: think the offensive line, I think they're one of the
Speaker 1: most underrated groups. They drafted Frank right now, um Taylor
Speaker 1: Deck is healthy again. With this team, I think they're
Speaker 1: gonna be a more balanced approach. We saw carry On
Speaker 1: Johnson did in that first game, what his usage was.
Speaker 1: We saw that long run that he ripped off. I
Speaker 1: think that they're grooming this guy to be their work
Speaker 1: horse running back. Eventually, it's not gonna happen out of
Speaker 1: the gate. They signed with Garrett Blunt for a reason.
Speaker 1: They still have Theo Riddic, But I think people are
Speaker 1: overrating THEO Rick a little bit too much. Like if
Speaker 1: carry On Johnson performs well in what they want him
Speaker 1: to do in both running and catching the ball out
Speaker 1: of the backfield. I can see THEO Riddick's role really
Speaker 1: diminishing this season. Yeah so so for me, I was
Speaker 1: not the hot guy on carry On Johnson. Early on, UM,
Speaker 1: I had a pretty low He's my lowest ranked rookie
Speaker 1: running back. Now I believe it's the second highest due
Speaker 1: to some injuries and whatnot. I have Kerry and Johnson
Speaker 1: twenty six in my rankings, UM, and I think, okay,
Speaker 1: so we're we're right along. Um, we're right along the
Speaker 1: same line. So so carry on Johnson. He's twenty six,
Speaker 1: and I just hope it doesn't turn into another mirror
Speaker 1: duel situation where he has a really good preseason game,
Speaker 1: we all jump on him as his RB two that
Speaker 1: we're gonn believe in or RB two issue that we're
Speaker 1: gonna believe in, and then he comes up small. You
Speaker 1: look at the Garrett Blunt, who I believe is the
Speaker 1: goal line back, look at THEO Ritic who I believes
Speaker 1: the third down back, and then you have carry On Johnson,
Speaker 1: Aramir and Amir of Doulas. Still there a lot of
Speaker 1: names in one backfield and that's what scares me ultimately
Speaker 1: that carry On Yeah, I think that is baked into
Speaker 1: his price somewhat though, right because you're getting him in
Speaker 1: the sixth round. He might rise a little bit up
Speaker 1: into the fifth round. But you know, if those guys
Speaker 1: weren't there, if they didn't sign the Garrett Blunt, we'd
Speaker 1: probably be drafting carry On Johnson in the same range
Speaker 1: as like a Royce Freeman. I think he would be
Speaker 1: going in that fourth round range now, So that's baked
Speaker 1: into his price a little bit. I just don't really
Speaker 1: trust la Garrett Blunt. I know Matt Patricia, the head
Speaker 1: coach of the Lions now, brought in the Garrett Blunt
Speaker 1: and they have that familiarity together. They've worked together before,
Speaker 1: so they bring him in. But I just I don't
Speaker 1: trust like Garrett Blunt. What is he at this point
Speaker 1: his career. He's just a goal line guy. He's thirty
Speaker 1: one years old. I think if carry On Johnson takes off,
Speaker 1: they're not going to let let le Garrett Blunt be
Speaker 1: in the way of him. And I wouldn't be surprised
Speaker 1: if know, if they run a mirror dula out a
Speaker 1: little bit more throughout this preseason game so they could
Speaker 1: shop him, potentially trade him to a team that needs
Speaker 1: of running back Washington. I think that makes a lot
Speaker 1: of sense to well the person that I had um
Speaker 1: carry on John's next two in my rankings with Jamal Williams,
Speaker 1: I wanted to bring up certainly today given the ankle
Speaker 1: injury suffered last night. He was the clear cut starter
Speaker 1: ahead of Time Montgomery last night. Obviously Aaron Jones still
Speaker 1: a bit banged up, but Jamal Williams carry On Johnson, uh,
Speaker 1: two guys next to each other in my rankings. It
Speaker 1: sounds like a low ankle sprain. I doubt he plays
Speaker 1: the third preseason game. I think it'll be fine by
Speaker 1: the time the season rolls around. We've spoken a lot
Speaker 1: about mark ingram over the past couple of days, and
Speaker 1: Jamal Williams as the CBS guys pointing out like he
Speaker 1: is the perfect guy. If judging my preseason is any indication,
Speaker 1: I really really like Jamal Williams. I really really like
Speaker 1: this price. Yeah. I think this is a good range
Speaker 1: where ideally you don't want one of these guys as
Speaker 1: your RB two, but if you end up with a
Speaker 1: carry On Johnson or Jamal Williams or Day. Well, really,
Speaker 1: you know, just outside the top twenty four, you end
Speaker 1: up with one of those guys as your flex or.
Speaker 1: Is your r be three. I think this is a
Speaker 1: great range to kind of jump in on that. And
Speaker 1: Jamal Williams, we're still getting him in that sixth round range. Look,
Speaker 1: at some point this year it could be a frustrating
Speaker 1: situation with Aaron Jones. But the way everything that they've
Speaker 1: said about this team right now is that Dema Williams
Speaker 1: is the starter on his team. Aaron Jones seems to
Speaker 1: be the backup and time on Gary is going to
Speaker 1: have third down duties. Jamal Williams the best, the best
Speaker 1: at past protection on this team. That means a whole
Speaker 1: lot when you have a quarterback like Aaron Rodgers. He
Speaker 1: can catch the ball out of the backfield. Had that
Speaker 1: receiving touchdown in the first week of the preseason. He
Speaker 1: had a few receiving touchdowns last year as well. Remember
Speaker 1: everyone talks about the yards per carry. He didn't get
Speaker 1: the chance to play with Aaron Rodds, right, So I look,
Speaker 1: I don't think he's ever gonna be great in terms
Speaker 1: of is he gonna have a lot of breakout runs.
Speaker 1: Is he gonna average five yards per carrying? Probably not.
Speaker 1: He'll probably be in that low four maybe high three range. Um,
Speaker 1: But just playing with Aaron Rodgers, we saw a guy
Speaker 1: like Eddie Lacey who he didn't have the best yards
Speaker 1: per carry either. Just playing with Aaron Rodgers, you're gonna
Speaker 1: have an opportunity to score a ton of touchdowns. I
Speaker 1: that range that he's going in sixth round. I have
Speaker 1: him right now as RB twenty nine, but I have
Speaker 1: to edit this a little bit because of the Birkhead
Speaker 1: injury now as well. Yeah, I have him twenty nine.
Speaker 1: I have Isaiah Kwell one spot ahead of him, so
Speaker 1: I have listen, these guys are in the same range
Speaker 1: for me. Also, um, I have Jamal Williams carry On
Speaker 1: Johnson backs back. I think probably. I don't know does
Speaker 1: they take Williams first, just because I don't know that's
Speaker 1: whether back to back, very very close to Yeah, yeahs ahead,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I would undoubtedly take him a kind of
Speaker 1: Jamal Williams and I did in the flex draft last weekend,
Speaker 1: and Florio texted me afterwards he said, there was one
Speaker 1: one running back you took carry on over that I
Speaker 1: was very surprised, and I said, oh, Jamal Williams. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's exactly it. So you know, some people like Jamal
Speaker 1: Williams a little bit very close. It is close, but
Speaker 1: you know, both guys have their flaws. They have other
Speaker 1: guys around. You can definitely say that the Packard's offense
Speaker 1: is better than the Lions. I just think that there's
Speaker 1: a chance. I think carry On has more upside that
Speaker 1: if he becomes like the workhorse here, I think his
Speaker 1: upside is higher than I can get it. But I
Speaker 1: also think it's more limited, dude, because I think he's
Speaker 1: never going to be the PPR back in this offense.
Speaker 1: It's never gonna happen. Yeah, And I don't think he's
Speaker 1: gonna be the goal line back. That's literally why they
Speaker 1: signed like Garrett Blunt. I think that if Karen Johnson
Speaker 1: just takes off early on in the season, that those
Speaker 1: guys are not going to get in the way of
Speaker 1: If they want to give him like touches a game,
Speaker 1: I don't think those guys are gonna get in the
Speaker 1: way of it. If he is performing, which I think
Speaker 1: he is going to. Two more names that are in
Speaker 1: this mix that you have mentioned Rex Burkhead and Isaiah Crowell. Now,
Speaker 1: I was the high guy in Isaiah Crowell a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, and then he didn't start that first
Speaker 1: preseason game. It was Blot Howell that started. Then he
Speaker 1: got concussed, and that's where we are now with crow
Speaker 1: Rex Burkhead, he's gotta quote small tear in his knee.
Speaker 1: Of Patriots believe it's minor and that he can play
Speaker 1: through it. It all sounds terrible to me. What is
Speaker 1: this new direct Burkehead? What is his due to Isaiah Crowell? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you have to lower Rex Burkhead a little bit.
Speaker 1: I mean, you look at what happened last night. They
Speaker 1: used James White a ton in that game. This Patriot
Speaker 1: backfield is just an absolute mess. Tony Michelle that used
Speaker 1: the first round pick on him. We spoke about him
Speaker 1: a little bit yesterday as well. But when is he
Speaker 1: going to get an opportunity to, you know, have a
Speaker 1: significant role with the Patriots. I think it's gonna come
Speaker 1: a couple of games into the season, maybe closer to
Speaker 1: mid season. But this is something that can linger for
Speaker 1: the entirety of the season. This knee injury with Rex Burkeheads.
Speaker 1: So really now it's crazy to say. I mean, we
Speaker 1: could be looking at Jeremy Hill on early downs and
Speaker 1: James White on passing downs to it. It's just it's
Speaker 1: a messy situation. I think Rex Burkehead should be dropped
Speaker 1: a little bit in the rankings. Uh. Originally he was going,
Speaker 1: he was starting to go in like that fifth round
Speaker 1: range cemented ahead of these guys harry On Johnson, Jamalba Williams,
Speaker 1: Isaiah crow Well, he was going ahead of them. Now
Speaker 1: I think with this injury, uh and the way it
Speaker 1: can linger, I think you dropped him behind all those names.
Speaker 1: Greg I wouldn't be surprised if he's in the next
Speaker 1: tier with you know, Dion Lewis. For me, it's havin
Speaker 1: call the next tier. I think I'm gonna so I
Speaker 1: have I while you were talking, literally I dropped Rex
Speaker 1: Burken into my Ronald Jones or shot Penny Tire, which
Speaker 1: is I guess right above the literally all the guys
Speaker 1: you were just talking about. I have all those guys
Speaker 1: in the same tier right now. They're like, you know,
Speaker 1: either're like round six running, you know what. I think
Speaker 1: that's my issue. I think I need to cut the
Speaker 1: tier off earlier. I think that's where I'm going wrong,
Speaker 1: because like because I was looking and we're gonna get
Speaker 1: to Carlos Hide in the second and I was looking
Speaker 1: at Carlos Hide and I'm just like, how he belongs higher,
Speaker 1: and so does Chris Carson. But maybe it's just the
Speaker 1: fact that I need to start the next tier in
Speaker 1: a different spot. Maybe that's where I'm wrong. Okay, My
Speaker 1: Tier five is RB twenty four mark Ingram then carry
Speaker 1: on Johnson, Isaiah Crowe, Well, Jamal Williams, Carlos Hide, Ronald Jones,
Speaker 1: shot Penny, Rex Burk Okay, so the end of the tier,
Speaker 1: and then it starts with like Dean Lewis and seven
Speaker 1: coman Okay, So for me, I'm a little bit different.
Speaker 1: Obviously it's a wrong color. I think that was terrible.
Speaker 1: You gotta see Greg's rank because he's just it's like
Speaker 1: taste the Rainbow. It's like Marshall lint on that. Because
Speaker 1: so my Tier four um is Derrick Henry h Dream Williams,
Speaker 1: and I have that as a tear. And then the
Speaker 1: next year begins with Birkhead, Crowell, Ronald Jones, Rashad Penny
Speaker 1: and then gets into Chris Thompson, carlos Hi, Dan Lewis,
Speaker 1: Chris Carson and those guys. Um, so I we have
Speaker 1: a little bit different. He said a lot about Birkehead.
Speaker 1: What about Crowell, Yeah, I was. I was intrigued by
Speaker 1: the way that they used him in that first game.
Speaker 1: Gonna continue to talk about that. They split him out
Speaker 1: wide as a wide receiver. He caught that ball across
Speaker 1: the middle from Teddy Bridgewater and really ran it in
Speaker 1: a violent touchdown there at the goal line. A big
Speaker 1: collision he is can cost. But look, this team has
Speaker 1: showed time and time again that they really don't trust
Speaker 1: ball Powell. While he has started the first two games
Speaker 1: of the preseason for the Jets, they haven't really trusted him.
Speaker 1: I think he has his role. I think he'll see
Speaker 1: anywhere from like two ten touches per game. But I
Speaker 1: think when it's all said and done, Isaiah Crowell leads
Speaker 1: this team and carries leads his team and touches overall.
Speaker 1: And don't forget he had forty receptions a few years
Speaker 1: ago back with the Cleveland Browns. So he can catch
Speaker 1: the ball to the backfield. I have some stump can
Speaker 1: turns over the Jets offensive line. But even last year,
Speaker 1: these guys, Matt forte, Um, even Elijah McGuire, they were
Speaker 1: fantasy relevant, and I think that's gonna be the case
Speaker 1: again this year. I think Crow l leads a team
Speaker 1: in in Harry's touches. Overall, I just don't think that
Speaker 1: that the respect the ball Powell that much. I don't
Speaker 1: think agree to use him more than they have in years.
Speaker 1: I agree, as long as I can see that Isaiah
Speaker 1: Crowe is healthy, I'm very excited to go and get
Speaker 1: a share of him. I think we talked about carry
Speaker 1: On Johnson and he's playing time issues and all the
Speaker 1: other guys there. I look at Green Bay and I
Speaker 1: don't see I'm sorry, I look at the Jets and
Speaker 1: I don't see that green You can see where I'm
Speaker 1: with there, um bla, how I don't think they like
Speaker 1: and Bowls has been there long enough time to nobody
Speaker 1: has a blof how Elijah McGuire is hurt. That's it is, Latmos.
Speaker 1: Crow is healthy, He's going to get every opportunity. An
Speaker 1: opportunity doesn't always create production, but I think in this
Speaker 1: case it will. When it comes to Carol in the Jets, Yeah,
Speaker 1: especially where you're getting him to that six seventh round
Speaker 1: race to Elijah McGuire will be back. That was the
Speaker 1: guy they were talking up. I think if he broke
Speaker 1: his leg, they might have even cut balal pal That's
Speaker 1: something that they were totally so, you know, you don't
Speaker 1: talk about cutting a player that you're enamored with or
Speaker 1: that is gonna end up being the starter. Yes, he
Speaker 1: started the preseason games. I think that's more so he's
Speaker 1: a veteran, he's been with the team a couple of years.
Speaker 1: But you know, once McGuire's back, you'll get a few touches.
Speaker 1: I think, well, we'll probably be somewhere in that like
Speaker 1: fourteen to sixteen touch range per game. Maybe a little
Speaker 1: bit inconsistent, but I think that's fair for where you're drafting.
Speaker 1: When when we come back, we're gonna take your calls
Speaker 1: eight four four eight four three seven nine. And what
Speaker 1: I want to do next, Frankie is is kind of
Speaker 1: go over the best of the rest. We're gonna do
Speaker 1: the handcuffs to end the show, to end the week,
Speaker 1: as we wanted to talk about that, but I want
Speaker 1: to do the best of the rest because there's only
Speaker 1: a couple more guys here that I'm actively looking for, right, Like,
Speaker 1: I really like Carlos Hide. You know that we're gonna
Speaker 1: get into him next. We want to talk about Chris
Speaker 1: Carson will get into him next. And all of these
Speaker 1: other guys. There's no one really that stands out to me,
Speaker 1: and I was like, Oh, I really want that guy.
Speaker 1: Maybe there are for you. But as I look at
Speaker 1: the last thirty or so running backs, there's not that
Speaker 1: many that I'm circling with the red bar, with the
Speaker 1: red markers. We'll take your calls at eat four or
Speaker 1: four eight, four, three, seven nine, and we will do
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Speaker 1: All right. I went back to your calls three six
Speaker 1: st seven nine. We said we'd lead it off, and
Speaker 1: let's do it. Gentlemen. Let's bring in Randy from Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: What's going on, Randy? Do we have Randy? No? R Ko?
Speaker 1: All right, Let's go to Drew in Indiana. What's up, Drew?
Speaker 1: It seems like, Hey, Drew, what's up? Dude? Hey? Uh?
Speaker 1: So I had a running back question in a tight
Speaker 1: end question. Shoot, all right, So my running backs, I've
Speaker 1: got Freeman, Gordon, and Ingram. I did trade Ronald Jones
Speaker 1: to acquired Coleman. I did like the upside of Jones,
Speaker 1: but I figured out I need that handcuff for Freeman.
Speaker 1: And then I picked up Correl yesterday. Uh, I've got
Speaker 1: Freeman and Gordon on a bye week, both at the
Speaker 1: same time Week eight, and Coroll is playing in Chicago.
Speaker 1: Should I take Pal or Coel for a week to
Speaker 1: match up against Chicago. I know it's like a question question.
Speaker 1: I know, I know it sounds crazy, but my thought
Speaker 1: is Donald with Pou, I feel like kind of a
Speaker 1: Cohen with Robisky. Look, you know, maybe he's gonna get
Speaker 1: more touches. Questions. Have Devontae Freeman, You got Tevin Coleman,
Speaker 1: so you have the handcuff there, you have Melvin Gordon.
Speaker 1: By that time week tend, you have mark ingram As well.
Speaker 1: I think you hold Isaiah for Well more so than
Speaker 1: a ball all Powell. Anything can happen by weeks end.
Speaker 1: I mean, isaih Well could be heart vice versa for
Speaker 1: ballal Pal. So I think you just hold the running
Speaker 1: backs you have right now, and you know the season
Speaker 1: will play itself out by the time we get to
Speaker 1: weeks ending. Well, we'll be taking your calls then as
Speaker 1: eight four four, eight, four, three, six, eight, seven nine,
Speaker 1: it's gotta don in Wisconsin's I've done? Hey, how are
Speaker 1: you doing? Guys doing great, man, what's up? Okay? I'm
Speaker 1: on the two separate ten team half point PPR leagues.
Speaker 1: Each of them have three flex spots available. One of
Speaker 1: the flex spots can be a quarterback, tight end, wide receiver,
Speaker 1: running back. So my question to you, I normally carry
Speaker 1: two QB's, Should I carry three? Or should I just
Speaker 1: stick with a quarterback or excuse me, running back, wide receiver,
Speaker 1: tight end. So I think it's a great question because
Speaker 1: you are in a super flex league. Now, one of
Speaker 1: the flexes are available for a quarterback. You know normally
Speaker 1: carry two. Now to it's not normally it has to
Speaker 1: be you have to have with quarterbacks on your team,
Speaker 1: can you have three? Yes? I absolutely, Um do you
Speaker 1: need to have three? I don't think you need to
Speaker 1: have three, But as you're going down your draft board,
Speaker 1: if you believe the quarterbacks, the best player on the
Speaker 1: board a little bit later on is your third quarterback.
Speaker 1: I'm cool with taking a third. You don't like Greig
Speaker 1: said you don't need to have three, but I agree
Speaker 1: that you know, with the super flex I would have
Speaker 1: a third quarterback. We did the Scott Fishball draft a
Speaker 1: couple of months ago. That's deeper. It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: over twenty rounds, I think I ended up with like
Speaker 1: four quarterbacks. And that is a super flex format as well.
Speaker 1: So especially in the ten team, where you know, hypothetic
Speaker 1: theoretically speaking, there should be thirty quarterbacks drafted. I think
Speaker 1: that makes sense. Everyone should have that third kind of
Speaker 1: starter as a bye week super flex replacement. Alright, So
Speaker 1: there you go at eight four four, eight four, three,
Speaker 1: six eight seven nine. Um let me let me get
Speaker 1: to Carlos side, Frank, let me get to Carlos side.
Speaker 1: So uh, when it comes to Carlos side, that was
Speaker 1: my guy last year, right, Like, I love that dude.
Speaker 1: And they went over Cleveland. He gets his big money
Speaker 1: contract and everyone loves Carlos hide until they extend Duke Johnson.
Speaker 1: You're like, what it doesn't make sense. And then you go, okay, fine, alright,
Speaker 1: all good, and then they go and draft Nick Chubb
Speaker 1: and he's like what the hell. So we had people
Speaker 1: on here experts saying we love Nick Chubb. Nick Chubb's
Speaker 1: the long term play. Make sure you go get Nick Chubb.
Speaker 1: And then we watched the preseason and the only person
Speaker 1: get the first team reps is Carlos Hide. Carlos Hide
Speaker 1: has cost and nothing right now are you buy him
Speaker 1: back in I think especially where he's going to I
Speaker 1: like that. You know he's going even later than carry
Speaker 1: On Johnson, Isaiah Carol. You're getting Carlos Hide in the
Speaker 1: eighth round. And that's because everybody was unsure of what
Speaker 1: the Brown situation was going to be. And I think
Speaker 1: you just look at the first preseason game usage and
Speaker 1: you see how he was used. He played the first
Speaker 1: three snatch of the game. It didn't play the rest
Speaker 1: of the game. That tells me that Carlos Hyde is
Speaker 1: the starting running back on this team. Um due to
Speaker 1: financials after the season, they can cut him and they won't.
Speaker 1: You know, they can get rid of his money, his
Speaker 1: dead money. So I think it makes sense to just
Speaker 1: use Carlos Hide this year, maybe more so in the
Speaker 1: second half of the year. We see Nick Chubb start
Speaker 1: to emerge a little bit, but especially that first half,
Speaker 1: I think this is Carlos Hides job. I think he's
Speaker 1: the starting running back on this team. The Brown struggled
Speaker 1: mightily in the red zone last year when it came
Speaker 1: to their running backs. They had just five red zone touchdowns.
Speaker 1: Carlos Hide had eight by himself with the San Francisco
Speaker 1: forty niners, so he's a little bit better in that
Speaker 1: part of the field. I just think Nick Chubb he
Speaker 1: still has a lot to learn. Um. He has to
Speaker 1: learn about the past protection as well. So maybe later
Speaker 1: on in the year he starts to get a little
Speaker 1: bit more work. But I think Carlos Hide is the
Speaker 1: best of both worlds here. He can run the ball.
Speaker 1: We saw he could catch the ball. Yeah, last season,
Speaker 1: fifty nine receptions. I like Carlos Hide where he's going,
Speaker 1: especially in the first half of the season, and then
Speaker 1: if you want to so you can hear him with
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb. Nick Chubb is more of a stash candidate.
Speaker 1: But if anything were to happen to Carlos Hide, or
Speaker 1: if they start to face him out, then it would
Speaker 1: be Chubb. I like Carl's Hide, especially early on in
Speaker 1: the season. Great, Okay, so there you go. You're with me?
Speaker 1: Is he is he someone good to pair more Ingram? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think that makes sense to a lot of these
Speaker 1: guys that we're talking about. You need to find who
Speaker 1: is going to help you out early on in the season,
Speaker 1: wal mark Ingram's out those first four games. I think
Speaker 1: Carlos Hide fits that description purposely for for all the
Speaker 1: reasons I just mentioned. Okay, so there we go. Um,
Speaker 1: what about his teammate Duke Johnson, who I haven't heard
Speaker 1: anybody talk about this offseason. And I look at Duke Johnson,
Speaker 1: I look at my rankings, and I have Duke Johnson
Speaker 1: thirty four right now. I don't know, like when I
Speaker 1: would take to Johnson. I don't like know what I
Speaker 1: think of Duke Johnson I have. I have no idea
Speaker 1: What's what's Duke Johnson's deal. Duke Johnson is going as
Speaker 1: RB forty off the board right now according to Fantasy
Speaker 1: Frozen half point PPR drafts, and I have him, I
Speaker 1: think in a similar range. I have him RB four
Speaker 1: be three, so a little bit further down behind you.
Speaker 1: But I think that next year that we were talking
Speaker 1: about Dion Lewis, Tevin Coleman, Chris Thompson, they're all running
Speaker 1: backs that have a role with their team, and they
Speaker 1: might also be better as PPR specialists. So there's this
Speaker 1: whole tier. It's like Chris Carson gonna have a role
Speaker 1: with the team, especially early on. Jordan Wilkins now Rob Kelly,
Speaker 1: I think Duke Johnson just kind of fits into that
Speaker 1: tier as a guy who has a role one on
Speaker 1: the team. He's not necessarily the starter. Well we know
Speaker 1: he isn't the starter, but he might also be better
Speaker 1: in the full point PPR format. I don't think he
Speaker 1: has great upside overall. I think last year was a
Speaker 1: little bit flukey. But as a bye week replacement and
Speaker 1: half point pprs your RB four, I think that's I
Speaker 1: think that's fine. That's a guy just on your bench.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have a mental upside, though, would you rather
Speaker 1: draft one of these rookie looking like that that does
Speaker 1: have more ups And that's that's exactly how I have
Speaker 1: it ranked to like, I have Chris Carson ahead of him,
Speaker 1: I'd rather take that shot. Jordan Wilkins, a guy that
Speaker 1: I know that you're in on as well, I'll take
Speaker 1: I'll take a shot on him even in Aaron Jones like,
Speaker 1: I'll take a shot there in case he becomes as
Speaker 1: well in that offense with the Green Bay Packers. So
Speaker 1: I moved Duke Johnson down a little bit. To me,
Speaker 1: he's not much more than like a Byby replacement. He
Speaker 1: might also be better in best ball because he could
Speaker 1: have some big weeks. You don't really know when those
Speaker 1: are gonna come. Because I think his usage could be
Speaker 1: a little bit inconsistent. I would much rather have deal.
Speaker 1: I think they signed Dean Lewis for a reason, the
Speaker 1: reason why you like Jack McKinnon. I think it comes
Speaker 1: down to money here with Dean Lewis, and they gave
Speaker 1: him that solid contract. I think he's a perfect compliment
Speaker 1: to Derrick Henry. Is gonna catch the ball out of
Speaker 1: the backfield. I kind of mapped it out yesterday, how
Speaker 1: I think the projections canna work here. Derrick Henry maybe
Speaker 1: in that two D and thirty two hundred and forty
Speaker 1: Carrie range. I think that Dean Lewis, if healthy D
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty, carries himself with maybe you know, three
Speaker 1: or four receptions a game. I think he's right in
Speaker 1: that for Thompson range maybe a little bit higher. I
Speaker 1: think he has a pretty legitimate role with the Titans
Speaker 1: this season, all right, So maybe yeah, so doing Dean
Speaker 1: Lewis right now, I was my thirty third, thirty third
Speaker 1: ranked running having thirty second behind Burke. It he starts
Speaker 1: that next year, so I still have burked re significantly higher,
Speaker 1: like maybe I'll drop it. The more injury news that
Speaker 1: comes out, Um, that's not so often. I guess that's
Speaker 1: where he goes. Would you take him ahead of Chris
Speaker 1: Thompson because I know you're a Thompson guy. I have
Speaker 1: Chris Thompson three spots ahead, Okay, I have what do
Speaker 1: they I have him two spots behind Dean Lewis. Okay,
Speaker 1: I just I worry about you know, him saying he
Speaker 1: might not be mentally there until November. We've talked about
Speaker 1: this aton, but I just they're never gonna give him
Speaker 1: more of a workload just based on the injury that
Speaker 1: happened to guys. He has his role definitely, and I
Speaker 1: think Dean Lewis can have a similar role. I think
Speaker 1: the offense a little bit better with the Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 1: I like the offensive line as well. Um, they're both
Speaker 1: very explosive running backs. I think in very similar situations.
Speaker 1: I just trust Dion Lewis a little bit more based
Speaker 1: on what they paid him. I think his role is
Speaker 1: a little bit more cemento with yeah, maybe not a
Speaker 1: little bit, A little bit more cemented. Like Chris Thompson
Speaker 1: has a role, and I think people look at Alex
Speaker 1: Smith and I'm like, oh my god, that's perfect, perfect
Speaker 1: dude to vote with Chris Thompson, and I think it is.
Speaker 1: And about all the injuries. So that's that's exactly what
Speaker 1: I'm about to say, because that's all fair. Like we
Speaker 1: Jay Gruden knows, Chris Thompson knows, and the Redskins organization
Speaker 1: knows that Chris Thompson can't play aldred snaps a game,
Speaker 1: Like that's not realistic, that's not realist for anybody. But
Speaker 1: like he can't play fifty snaps a game, the snaps
Speaker 1: per game. Really he's gonna see about he's never going
Speaker 1: to touch the ball or really shouldn't more than twelve
Speaker 1: times a game. I believe that. Speaking about Washington. By
Speaker 1: the way, Sanja Pierre and turned his ankle last night.
Speaker 1: He had a really good run and we're watching this
Speaker 1: during the Jet game and he's a really good run
Speaker 1: down the right sideline and he's living off and then
Speaker 1: he actually what was limping off? That's right. I moved
Speaker 1: Rob Kelly all the way up to RB thirty nine
Speaker 1: and you're never gonna feel good about it. But he
Speaker 1: looks like the starter right now, like he started the
Speaker 1: game again yesterday. He started the game last week even
Speaker 1: before Darius Guys got hurt. For whatever reason, Jay Gruden
Speaker 1: and the Washington football team they like Rob Kelly. Uh.
Speaker 1: To be fair, he looked a little bit more spry
Speaker 1: last night, looked slim down. H He had a few
Speaker 1: receptions out of the backfield, to which I found interesting.
Speaker 1: Again the reason you like Chris Thompson Alex Smith. If
Speaker 1: he doesn't see a guy clearly opened down the film,
Speaker 1: Tom just going to dump the ball off. And if
Speaker 1: Rob Kelly is in the game, he is going to
Speaker 1: be the recipient of those receptions. Just because he didn't
Speaker 1: have receptions in the past, didn't really catch the ball,
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean he can't do it in the future.
Speaker 1: Based on the personnel he's playing with now, and I
Speaker 1: think that's Alex Smith. So I moved him all the
Speaker 1: way up to RB thirty nine. Now, if they were
Speaker 1: to make a trade or signed someone, that obviously changes,
Speaker 1: but I think as of right now, Rob Kelly cemented
Speaker 1: as this team starting running back. All right, So there
Speaker 1: you go, that Rob, not skinny Rob, skinny eer Rob Rob,
Speaker 1: what do you have? You moved them up I haven't
Speaker 1: moved them up yet. You don't know where to put him, right,
Speaker 1: I don't know. You don't want to do it. I
Speaker 1: think I have. I haven't at fifty four right now
Speaker 1: because I mean I have to move him up obviously. Um,
Speaker 1: that's kind of where he is, although just behind Chris
Speaker 1: Carson and Jordan Wilkins. I have those two guys, those
Speaker 1: are right ahead of Robert Kelly. All right, So right,
Speaker 1: so I should move him right behind Chris Carson and
Speaker 1: Jordan Wilkins. You can do whatever you want, Graham, just
Speaker 1: telling you what I did, all right. We just moved
Speaker 1: up fat Rob, Fat Rob, just like that in my rankings, Rob,
Speaker 1: Fat Rob is number thirty eight in the rankings. How's that?
Speaker 1: Are you copying me? We're in the same range? There
Speaker 1: is that? I just talked to you? Up so much
Speaker 1: on Rob Kelly. You moved in my head of where
Speaker 1: I have Rob Kelly in the ranking. Chris Carson, by
Speaker 1: the way, he's higher for me. He's ever thirty two
Speaker 1: for me. Why is that? Well, I mean, Penny is
Speaker 1: injured and everything you read about Chris Carson's he's about
Speaker 1: cow like everything you read. According to Ian Rappaport. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's everything I read. Seahawks are an absolute mess. We
Speaker 1: went over this as well yesterday. But I still believe
Speaker 1: that they drafted Rashott Penny for a reason in the
Speaker 1: first round. I think when he is healthy, whether that's
Speaker 1: you know, the second, third week, whatever it might be,
Speaker 1: he's going to eat into that. And I wouldn't be
Speaker 1: surprised if you know, a month of the season, he
Speaker 1: is the starting running back for this team. So I'm
Speaker 1: not buying all the way. You know, Chris Carson, I
Speaker 1: think you have to move them up based on the
Speaker 1: circumstances that have taken place. But I still don't really
Speaker 1: love him. I don't think he's all that great. I
Speaker 1: think last year when he scored one touchdown in five
Speaker 1: games and everyone was freaking out, that's just because all
Speaker 1: the other Seahawks running backs were absolutely abysmal. I don't
Speaker 1: want to overhype Chris Carson. I think he's fine where
Speaker 1: he is in that you know, mid thirties running back range. Alright,
Speaker 1: other names here that are in interest to me before
Speaker 1: we move on back to your telephone calls and we
Speaker 1: get to the handcuffs. The Colts guys, I have Jordan
Speaker 1: Wilkins and he minds Marlon Mack all back to back
Speaker 1: to back. I don't know which one to take first.
Speaker 1: I don't have There's no rhyme or reason to it
Speaker 1: to me. Frankie, Yeah, I think more and Mack, even
Speaker 1: with the injury, is still going to be the first
Speaker 1: one off the board, probably in like that eighth round range.
Speaker 1: But if you ask me, I'll wait around or two
Speaker 1: and take Jordan Wilkins or Niheim HEINZ one I would take. Well,
Speaker 1: it's it's format dependent, so I think standard even half
Speaker 1: point PPR, I'll take Wilkins because I think he can
Speaker 1: end up being the starter, the early down guy, maybe
Speaker 1: the guy that used in the red zone as well.
Speaker 1: In full point PPR, I wouldn't mind taking Niheim Heins,
Speaker 1: former wide receiver in college. People have talked him up
Speaker 1: as this year's Alvin Kamara. I think that's a little
Speaker 1: bit ridiculous. Um, but he is going to be the
Speaker 1: past catching running back on this team. I could see,
Speaker 1: you know, I could see a scenario where Niheim Heins
Speaker 1: catches fifty balls this year, um, where and Jordan Wilkins
Speaker 1: is the early down guy, the guy that used in
Speaker 1: the red zone. Remember the coaching staff that was brought
Speaker 1: in now, they don't owe anything tomorrolwon Mack. He was
Speaker 1: drafted by the previous regime. They went out, they drafted
Speaker 1: Niheim Heinz and Jordan Wilkins for a reason. I think
Speaker 1: those guys before long end up being the tandem here
Speaker 1: um really when they take on that committee approach. Early
Speaker 1: downs for Wilkins pass catching, running back now probably so
Speaker 1: as you were talking, looking at me like what the
Speaker 1: hell is he doing? And was I was moving guys
Speaker 1: around in my rankings because there was one more guy
Speaker 1: that kind of fits the mold that we're talking about
Speaker 1: that we've never mentioned. We talked about rookie running Max
Speaker 1: right ra Sean Penny, we talked about carry On Johnson,
Speaker 1: and we mentioned Nick Chubb and your boy Ronald Jones.
Speaker 1: Ronald Jones really struggled that first time out and because
Speaker 1: of that, Peyton Barber were like, wait, that guy's the starter.
Speaker 1: I know nobody wants Peyton Barber because everybody wants to
Speaker 1: love Ronald Jones, but from my understanding, Barber is the starter.
Speaker 1: As of now, where do you have Peyton Barber ranks?
Speaker 1: What do you think about him. So I have Peyton
Speaker 1: Barber ranks as running back forty four. Ultimately, I just
Speaker 1: don't really trust him being the starter for all that long.
Speaker 1: Um Ronald Jones, I still have him RB twenty nine,
Speaker 1: so I have him much higher. And if something that
Speaker 1: if you wanted to do with Ronald Jones falling down
Speaker 1: the board, you take Ronald Jones in the sixth round.
Speaker 1: You wait a couple of rounds, maybe round eight, round nine,
Speaker 1: you come back and you take a Peyton Barber. You
Speaker 1: just kind of lock up the Tampa Bay Bucks backfield.
Speaker 1: I think maybe the first couple of weeks Peyton Barber
Speaker 1: out touches Ronald Jones. But I think Ronald Jones is
Speaker 1: very talented. He has to work on the past protection,
Speaker 1: for sure, But this is a team, the Tampa Bay Bucks,
Speaker 1: that have struggled to find a running back who has
Speaker 1: electric speed, who can make these breakaway runs. And that's
Speaker 1: exactly what Ronald Jones did in college, and I think
Speaker 1: that's what he will accept excel at whenever he gets
Speaker 1: the opportunity at the NFL level. So I still am
Speaker 1: buying in on Ronald Jones. I think Peyton Barber is
Speaker 1: a little bit higher than some of these handcuff guys. Um,
Speaker 1: but he's a little bit lower than like Chris Carson
Speaker 1: Jordan Wilkins, who I trust, um maybe have a little
Speaker 1: bit more upside. I just really don't think Peyton Barber
Speaker 1: is the starter for all that long, even if it
Speaker 1: is the first week or and I understand that he's
Speaker 1: number forty three for me once by ahead of Frank Gore.
Speaker 1: I may want to reverse that. Um, and she's about's
Speaker 1: head of Legarrett Blunt. One name here that comes to
Speaker 1: mind at Freeman. What about Tevin Coleman. Yeah, so Tevin
Speaker 1: Coleman is a guy who has standalone value even if
Speaker 1: DeVonta Freeman is on the field, we know that he
Speaker 1: has a role. Again, he's very similar in that range
Speaker 1: of Dion Louis, Chris Thompson. He's gonna tell you haven't there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's gonna because he's gonna touch the ball at least
Speaker 1: ten to twelve times per game. And then if something
Speaker 1: were to happen to Freeman, he legitimately has like top
Speaker 1: fifteen running back upside. So I think he has standalone value.
Speaker 1: He's more of like he's a handcuff as well. But
Speaker 1: me he goes a little bit too early if he
Speaker 1: goes in like that sixth round range. If I get
Speaker 1: him in the seventh, especially a pair with DeVonta Freeman,
Speaker 1: I think that makes a lot more sense. Do you
Speaker 1: want to remind you he only caught twenty seven basses
Speaker 1: all of last year because Steve Sarkasan didn't throw the
Speaker 1: ball to any running backs more and Tevin Coleman, your
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Speaker 1: Stanfel here with you hanging out the BFS. Before we
Speaker 1: get the calls, I want to finish the Tevin Coleman conversation.
Speaker 1: Who is the handcuff? We're gonna end the end the
Speaker 1: week with the handcuffs. Um, Coleman last year is really interesting,
Speaker 1: Like from weeks one for the middle to end of
Speaker 1: the season like that. That basically November he scored a touchdown, one, two, three,
Speaker 1: four street games. One game he had two touchdowns. I
Speaker 1: guess that's probably when Devonte Freeman missed time. Right, that's
Speaker 1: when Freeman was out with the concussion. I assume, all right,
Speaker 1: I could pull it up for you. I think was
Speaker 1: ultimately played four games, so he only was two, Okay,
Speaker 1: So basically the month of November was a month of
Speaker 1: Tevin Coleman. Like he was dominant in that month. He
Speaker 1: had twenty He had nineteen or twenty carries for three
Speaker 1: straight games. That's why I was assuming Devonte Freeman was
Speaker 1: out of those games. Um, it was awesome. He's like
Speaker 1: the is he the top handcuffed own Week eleven and
Speaker 1: Week twelve, which was November November twenty six. DeVonta Freeman
Speaker 1: missed those games and he only had two carries in
Speaker 1: on the twelve, So November Devanta Freeman was not really
Speaker 1: part of the team. Okay, is that when you were
Speaker 1: talking about I'm talking, I'm talking. No, he's November basically
Speaker 1: remember twelve, that's exactly, ex exactly his three best games
Speaker 1: all year. He's haf has to be he is, but
Speaker 1: you have to invest a lot. So do you want
Speaker 1: to lock up the Falcons backfield, it might take a
Speaker 1: second in a sixth round pick. That's where he's going.
Speaker 1: Sixth round man pull up Fantasy Pross. I've seen him
Speaker 1: go that high before. Maybe he's more like a seventh rounder,
Speaker 1: but I'm telling the eighth rounder Kevin Coleman sixty, which
Speaker 1: puts him in the sixth round RB twenty nine. According
Speaker 1: to Fantasy pros Greg, you have to invest a second
Speaker 1: and a six to lock up the Falcons backfield. It's
Speaker 1: a lot. It's a lot. It's very similar to last
Speaker 1: year the Titans. You had to invest a second and
Speaker 1: a seventh or DeMarco Murray and Harry that never even
Speaker 1: really worked out. It's a lot, I mean, it's a
Speaker 1: lot to ask for. Coleman might be a better best
Speaker 1: ball play because you well, Freeman is healthy. I will
Speaker 1: say he has standalone value. But you don't really ever
Speaker 1: know when Tevin Coleman is going to score a touchdown
Speaker 1: because it seems like they come from outside the red zone.
Speaker 1: Those are kind of hard to predict. We know once
Speaker 1: they get inside the red zone, DeVonta Freeman really does
Speaker 1: dominate the touches. So maybe Tevin Coleman better as a
Speaker 1: best ball play. But if you really really want to
Speaker 1: lock up the Falcons backfield, you have to invest that
Speaker 1: six or seventh round pick to Para Coleman with Devontay
Speaker 1: Freeman four three, six, seven nine George in Virginia, You're
Speaker 1: up next. But what's going on? Hey, what's going on? UM?
Speaker 1: Wanted to ask, like, since you guys are we talking
Speaker 1: about the handcuffs? Um about Oakland and Baltimore And I'm wondering, um,
Speaker 1: like you know behind um, what's his name? Marshawn Lynch?
Speaker 1: If that she and worth like investing in like something
Speaker 1: in like the tenth or of the eleventh round, like
Speaker 1: I'm going to have a draft um later on this
Speaker 1: month that is gonna be a twelve teen PPR, So
Speaker 1: I need to maximize my value in the draft. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So for the Raiders and the Ravens, I think the
Speaker 1: way that they talked of Doug Martin, you have to
Speaker 1: treat him as the handcuff right now. And looking at
Speaker 1: the history that John Gruden has used running backs in
Speaker 1: his past, he really has a one A and one beast,
Speaker 1: so a lot like these running backs that were talking
Speaker 1: about now, Doug Martin also has standalone value because I
Speaker 1: think he'll see anywhere from you know, seven to ten
Speaker 1: touches per game. Marshall Lynch not gonna really get twenty carries,
Speaker 1: but he'll be in that fourteen fifteen range. If anything
Speaker 1: were to happen to Marshall Lynch, I think Doug Martin
Speaker 1: steps steps up as that next one a running back
Speaker 1: that's getting around fifteen carries for game. Personally, I don't
Speaker 1: agree with it, but the way that that coaching staff
Speaker 1: has talked up Doug Martin, I don't think you can
Speaker 1: get away from that. Uh. And with the with the Ravens,
Speaker 1: if you draft Alex Collins, I think all Allen is
Speaker 1: more of just the PPR back. If anything works to
Speaker 1: happen to Alex Collins, I think Kennet Dixon would step
Speaker 1: in as the early downs back probably. I agree rob
Speaker 1: Ian Westchester, what's up? Rob? What's up? Guys? A couple
Speaker 1: of points. You guys actually just talked. I think the
Speaker 1: number one in comes football is UNIVERA seven Coleman, and
Speaker 1: he has running value already. He's just he just started
Speaker 1: running back in the second position for a lot of teams. Yep.
Speaker 1: And I think the second best hand coast is actually
Speaker 1: Doug Martin with that offensive rhane in Oakland. It's sick.
Speaker 1: So I'm going for those two guys in in the
Speaker 1: later rounds and hopefully taking up the wide receivers early
Speaker 1: and all. Pretty good. There we go. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: for what it's worth, he's not wrong. Last year, Tevin
Speaker 1: Coleman overall finishes RB twenty, the same exact spot as
Speaker 1: Marshall Lynch, so he has standalone value. A lot of
Speaker 1: it came in those three games when DeVonta Freeman was out,
Speaker 1: but he really needs those games that I you know,
Speaker 1: when Davonte Freeman misses, that's when Kevin Coleman really takes off.
Speaker 1: I think we all are in agreement that he is
Speaker 1: the number one handcuff. It's just what you have to
Speaker 1: invest to get that. A six seventh round pick, that's
Speaker 1: very early. Doug Martin a little bit more interesting. You
Speaker 1: get him late in drafts, you know, double digit rounds,
Speaker 1: ten eleventh round. Uh. If you draft Marshaw Lynch, I
Speaker 1: think that makes more sense. If you want to just
Speaker 1: lock up the Raiders backfield, use a sixth and a
Speaker 1: tenth round pick, you end up with Marshawn Lynch and
Speaker 1: Doug Martin. Let's head out to Virginia and talk to George. George.
Speaker 1: We hit George. You're ready, right, So Kevin in Chicago,
Speaker 1: Hey you guys, sums for taking my call. All right,
Speaker 1: it's okay, Um, I appreciate it. No, So I'm in
Speaker 1: the league. Um. One of them is talk man league,
Speaker 1: And unfortunately they're trying to be a little different and cute.
Speaker 1: But that's what it is. There limiting Momana moves and
Speaker 1: her argument is that you know, it's about strategy and whatnot,
Speaker 1: So it's we're debating between dirty moves. With that being said,
Speaker 1: going to the draft, how are you are you more
Speaker 1: like to grab um higher cheering quarterback, and are you
Speaker 1: more likely to grab a backup quarterback? The bench is deeper,
Speaker 1: by the way, I have to mention that the bench
Speaker 1: we're debating between like somewhere between eight or nine. I
Speaker 1: don't know, alright, So it's a little bit deeper bench.
Speaker 1: Frank eight or nine bench spots. He says that league
Speaker 1: might limit his transactions to thirty, which I assume is
Speaker 1: throughout the entirety of the season. So if that's the case,
Speaker 1: an eight or nine man bench, I think you absolutely
Speaker 1: have to have a backup quarterback. And while we're on
Speaker 1: the discussion of handcuffs, um, I don't know if you
Speaker 1: use fab or if you just use like a first come,
Speaker 1: first serve um waiver process, but if you only have
Speaker 1: thirty moves, I'm probably more inclined to draft my handcuffs
Speaker 1: if I have like a workhorses running back, so I
Speaker 1: don't have to waste those, uh those transactions on the
Speaker 1: handcuff if something were to happen to my workhorse running back.
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I was leading towards handcuffs as
Speaker 1: well with a quarterback, Like if your quarterback goes down
Speaker 1: that won't. It's one move, right, like theoretic probably happen
Speaker 1: all that often. Right, No, it doesn't. And also the
Speaker 1: good news is you could just pick up a guy
Speaker 1: that's probabefully after his by and you don't have to
Speaker 1: waste another one, like just lock that guy in. I
Speaker 1: would rather scooper as many handcuffs as possible because that's
Speaker 1: where the majority of eater moves will probably be. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's fair. Do you think in a format like this
Speaker 1: where you have limited moves, are you more likely to
Speaker 1: draft one of the elite quarterbacks so you just don't
Speaker 1: even have to worry? Yeah? I want to do that anyway,
Speaker 1: So elite quarterback? Yes, yes, I think one of the
Speaker 1: guys that you could trust more even going into you don't.
Speaker 1: You don't. You don't want to have to mess around
Speaker 1: all year long about Tim And it's left in the program, Frank,
Speaker 1: we went over some of the top handcuffs, right, We
Speaker 1: went over Doug Martin, we went over Tevin Coleman, were
Speaker 1: hit in Washington. I know you've been talking up a
Speaker 1: lot Trey Aadmonds and Bow Scarborough. I've liked both Scarbrow
Speaker 1: since back in Alabama. And the reason that. I like
Speaker 1: him because I think he runs hard. He's got the
Speaker 1: Alabama pedigree, which I know isn't great for running backs
Speaker 1: these days outside of mark Ingram. But I think he's
Speaker 1: a very, very talented back. And I think he's a
Speaker 1: big back too, So I think if Elliott went down,
Speaker 1: he would really fit right into that role. I think
Speaker 1: they'd hand that rock to him repeatedly. I don't know
Speaker 1: what he was dreat in the passing game, but I
Speaker 1: don't think it would be a situation like we had
Speaker 1: last year, or like is it Rod Smith, is it
Speaker 1: Alfred Morris? What do we know? I think the answer
Speaker 1: is Bo Scarborough and we know that and we know
Speaker 1: what this offense is. That's why I really like Bo Scarborough. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think that's why they went out and drafted him.
Speaker 1: So if something were to happen to Zeke, they just
Speaker 1: know that he's the next man up. And you look
Speaker 1: at where he's being drafted, he's nothing. You get him
Speaker 1: the last pick of the draft, pick two sixty seven
Speaker 1: on Fantasy pros RB seventy three off the board. I
Speaker 1: think when you are ranking handcuffs specifically, you look at situation. Right,
Speaker 1: if something were to happen to this running back, Um,
Speaker 1: does he step into a situation right away where he's
Speaker 1: the starter, good offensive line, a potent offense. I think
Speaker 1: all those things work for the Cowboys. Maybe not the
Speaker 1: most potent offense, but they have a great offensive line.
Speaker 1: So if something were to happen to zeke Bo Scarborough.
Speaker 1: You mentioned Chase Edmonds, who has flashed a little bit
Speaker 1: here in the preseason. I got that. You know, Emery
Speaker 1: Hunt has been all over dating back to his days
Speaker 1: at college. He's right behind both Scarboro RB seventy four.
Speaker 1: And they've already said if something were to happen to
Speaker 1: David Johnson, Chase Edmonds will step in as the team starter.
Speaker 1: I think he can run the ball and catch the
Speaker 1: ball out of the backfield. And while we're on it,
Speaker 1: you just got to talk about you know who would
Speaker 1: who would uh take over for the Steelers if something
Speaker 1: would have happened to Levion Bell. I think that is
Speaker 1: James Conner. You saw him last night. Um looked very spry.
Speaker 1: He had like a thirty yard touchdown run RB sixty
Speaker 1: five off the board. That's another situation where anytime anything
Speaker 1: has happened to Levion Bell, regardless of who the backup
Speaker 1: is they feed that guy. We saw it a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago with Th'angela Williams. He had like twenty
Speaker 1: five plus touches in whatever games Levian Bell missed. So
Speaker 1: James Conner I think is also a name in that category.
Speaker 1: And Connors a dude that's lost a lot of weight
Speaker 1: to like he does not look spry. Last night he
Speaker 1: looked very good. He doesn't literally the massive dude that
Speaker 1: I think we saw last year. There's a little plotting
Speaker 1: for us. Um, he looked good last night. Yeah, in
Speaker 1: that category as well. Going a little bit higher, we
Speaker 1: spoke about Latavius Murray, who I think has standalone value
Speaker 1: as well. He should be see anywhere from you know,
Speaker 1: six to ten touches per game with the Vikings if
Speaker 1: anything were to happen in Dalvin Cook. We saw last
Speaker 1: year what let's Avias Murray can do. Um, he scores
Speaker 1: such downs. He does his work in the in the
Speaker 1: red zone as well. You know a guy who I
Speaker 1: think has valued by himself right now, Greg not even
Speaker 1: a handcuff. Who's no one's talking about Austin Ekeler with
Speaker 1: the Chargers. They're talking him up right now. That he's
Speaker 1: going to have the Danny Woodhead role in this offense.
Speaker 1: That worries me a little bit about Melvin Gordon's receptions.
Speaker 1: Maybe they take a step back, maybe he's more so
Speaker 1: in that forty to fifty range. But Austin Ekeler a
Speaker 1: guy who flashed a little bit last year. They seem
Speaker 1: to like him an awful lot. Maybe he doesn't see
Speaker 1: the same workload that a Danny Woodhead does. But especially
Speaker 1: in PPR, I think there's a chance that Austin Ekeler
Speaker 1: himself and catch forty to fifty passes, maybe even exceed
Speaker 1: fifty receptions this year. Greg, Yeah, you know, I thinks
Speaker 1: a fine handcuffed. He came out of nowhere last year
Speaker 1: is a really really nice story, and then he proved
Speaker 1: was fine. He was passing down back like nothing really
Speaker 1: to worry about. And I think he's a handcuff. I'm
Speaker 1: not worried about him replacing Melvin Gordon or taking over
Speaker 1: a lot of those receptions. Um. I think he's a
Speaker 1: fine handcuff and that's about it. I think he's gonna
Speaker 1: have a little bit more value than that, like as
Speaker 1: a bye week replacement in the PPR League. I think
Speaker 1: he's a guy that can maybe catch or to five
Speaker 1: passes per week. They've just been talking up a lot,
Speaker 1: and I think, um, that's I think that's for FA.
Speaker 1: I think they like him a lot there too, And
Speaker 1: we do have to mention. I mean, who is the
Speaker 1: backup to Todd Gurley if something were to happen. They
Speaker 1: went and they drafted John Kelly, who a lot of
Speaker 1: people were raving about throughout the draft. It's crazy. I
Speaker 1: saw somebody on Twitter. I forget who was. I hate
Speaker 1: that I gave him credit. Um maybe it was Might
Speaker 1: Claim maybe with somebody else, but they were raving as
Speaker 1: his deep sleever John Kelly that if anything happens, liked
Speaker 1: him a lot. I remember listening to me he was
Speaker 1: claimed cast throughout the draft process. This was a guy
Speaker 1: who really he hit in the metric department, so you know,
Speaker 1: using a lot of advanced metrics he was. They would
Speaker 1: looked at that throughout his college career, and the Rams
Speaker 1: went out and drafted him. So I think he is
Speaker 1: the guy to own if anything were to happen to
Speaker 1: Tid Gurley. So if you draft Gurley, maybe in the
Speaker 1: best ball format or in your deeper twelve team, leagues.
Speaker 1: If you're looking for that next man up, I think
Speaker 1: it is John Kelly for the Rams. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: so too, And I think it's really smart that you
Speaker 1: bring up, um, some of these big time guys, right,
Speaker 1: like first pick Todd Gurley, Right, who's the handcuff? It's
Speaker 1: you're literally your first overall pick. You want to make
Speaker 1: sure you get that handcuff? John Kelly got it? Uh?
Speaker 1: The Zeq Elliott we talked about Bot Scarborough, right, Cool?
Speaker 1: David Johnson, Jas Edmonds. You you mentioned that great awesome
Speaker 1: lady on Belle James Conner. Cool. Alvin Camara's interesting situation
Speaker 1: obviously with Mark Ingram there until Ingram gets back, it
Speaker 1: might be Jonathan Williams russurrected and dead was the answer
Speaker 1: to this one. I just hope that he doesn't get
Speaker 1: hurt the first four weeks and then you get the
Speaker 1: sake Kwon Barkley. Is there a Giants running back that
Speaker 1: is worth drafting as a handcuff? Is Wayne Gallman worth drafting?
Speaker 1: Is Jonathan Stewart worth drafting? I've drafted Wayne Gallman in
Speaker 1: one league where it has sae Kwon Barkley. It was
Speaker 1: a very deeply I think it was four rounds, so
Speaker 1: that deep I took a shot. But I think if
Speaker 1: anything were to happen to Sa Kwon Barkley, given the
Speaker 1: state of this offensive line, I still don't think they're great. Yes,
Speaker 1: they made some improvements, but it's pretty terrible. Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: gonna be bad. So I think if something were to
Speaker 1: happen to say Kwon Barkley, you wouldn't have much value
Speaker 1: out of either one. Wayne Gollman Jonan Stewart. Honestly, they
Speaker 1: probably just take away from each other if something were
Speaker 1: to happen. Yeah, okay, fair enough. I don't think I
Speaker 1: really want anymore. Wayne Golman got some first team action
Speaker 1: this week without say Kwon Barkley practicing. I watch to
Speaker 1: night and see what happened exactly. I want to see
Speaker 1: the what the differentiation is between Jonathan Stewart's carries and
Speaker 1: Wayne Gollman's carries. People like playing Golman. Last year we
Speaker 1: mentioned Melvin Gordon. Then he gets a Kareem Hunt in
Speaker 1: the first round. Who is Kareem Hunt's handcuff? I think
Speaker 1: it's Spencer ware again, and you know, similar to Austin Ekeler,
Speaker 1: there's a chance that Spencer Ware could still have a
Speaker 1: role on this team, you know, six to eight touches
Speaker 1: a game, maybe a couple of receptions. They liked him
Speaker 1: a lot before the Kareem Hunt before his injury last year.
Speaker 1: To Spencer weare so I think if anything were to
Speaker 1: happen again, it might not be Spencer where might not
Speaker 1: just step in and be like the workhorse. But I
Speaker 1: think if something were to happen to kare Hunt, he
Speaker 1: would see the bulk of the touches. They probably just
Speaker 1: get like Damian Williams involved as well. But in the
Speaker 1: league where I drafted Kareem Hunt, the Flex League last
Speaker 1: weekend that you took part in as well, Greg, I
Speaker 1: drafted Spencer were extremely late. I think one of my
Speaker 1: either my second or third to last pick. So I
Speaker 1: think Spencer wears the hancuff. Moving down the first round,
Speaker 1: two more spots left Jacksonville in Minnesota, and Letton Fournet
Speaker 1: has got a lot going on behind him, from Corey
Speaker 1: Grant to t J yelled into more is yelled in,
Speaker 1: stilled the backup and they want on there another another
Speaker 1: Alabama running back. I like, yeah, I think he probably is.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't see a full complement of work. If something
Speaker 1: happened to Leonard Fournett, I think it would kind of
Speaker 1: be like a Mishmas situation. They'd use multiple guys. But
Speaker 1: t J yelled in. We saw what he can do. Uh,
Speaker 1: not really great effective running between the tackles as a
Speaker 1: pure runner, but you can catch the ball out of
Speaker 1: the backfield. So he's probably the next man up. I
Speaker 1: think Grant is probably just like that speeds their chain
Speaker 1: ange of pace. I don't think that if anything would happened,
Speaker 1: he would step in on like early downs. It's probably
Speaker 1: t J. Yelden, But I don't feel great about like
Speaker 1: any handcuff there in Jacksonville, to be honest. And then
Speaker 1: you get to Minnesota, which we spoke about yesterday. Obviously,
Speaker 1: Uh that handcuff is Latavia's Murray. We saw it go
Speaker 1: into action last year. UM so LaTavia is very clearly
Speaker 1: the heck out of its own for Dalvin Cook. You
Speaker 1: want to get it in the second round. Um, I
Speaker 1: have to imagine Cincinnati's Gi Bonnie Bernard with Joe Mixon.
Speaker 1: He's talking about Atlanta with DeVante Freeman and Tevin Coleman
Speaker 1: and Carolina. You know c J. Anderson only played the
Speaker 1: fourth quarters. He's still the handcuff to c Hims. Yeah. Again,
Speaker 1: he's gonna have a role himself. They'll have that Jonathan
Speaker 1: Stewart role, maybe a little bit less than what Stewart
Speaker 1: did last year because he was around two hundred carries.
Speaker 1: But if anything happened to McCaffrey, Anderson would probably see
Speaker 1: around fifteen touches per game, and then I'm sure they
Speaker 1: would find someone else to end up being like the
Speaker 1: third down back or whatever. Al Right, so those those
Speaker 1: are your handcuffs, Frank. We have about a minute or
Speaker 1: so minute a half left in the week. Are there
Speaker 1: any other running backs that we have not talked about
Speaker 1: all week long that you're like, I gotta I want
Speaker 1: to mention him for whatever reason. Yeah. I think we've
Speaker 1: mentioned Time Montgomery a little bit while talking about the
Speaker 1: Packers running backs. But if this Jamal Williams situation is serious, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, Time Montgomery is probably the next man up.
Speaker 1: I think he, like Austin Ekeler, like some of these
Speaker 1: past catching running backs, has standalone value as well. Uh,
Speaker 1: Corey Clement didn't talk about him all that much, but
Speaker 1: when we mentioned j j. I, we kind of talked
Speaker 1: about him in passing another guy who's going to have
Speaker 1: a role on this team. They like him for sure,
Speaker 1: probably a better best ball running back. I don't know
Speaker 1: that you'll be able to trust Corey Clement at any
Speaker 1: certain time this year, but if something were to happen
Speaker 1: to j J I, I think Corey Clement would have
Speaker 1: a pretty legitimate role with you, more so than a
Speaker 1: um wind SMALLO. Yes, okay, I think they're done with
Speaker 1: window Smaller. I don't know, man. They talked up Corey
Speaker 1: Clement a lot, and they used him throughout the playoffs,
Speaker 1: so I think they I think that coaching staff trust
Speaker 1: Corey Clement. Okay, So there you go. Next week on
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Speaker 1: starting Tuesday, we're gonna do our wide receiver rankings. Everything
Speaker 1: we did this week, from the first two rounds wide receivers,
Speaker 1: to your middle rounds, to your late rounds, and to
Speaker 1: your handcuffs because your hand you can a handcuff wide
Speaker 1: receiver like Franks, so you can handcuffs tight ends right
Speaker 1: with Jordan Reed and Ernie Davis. You could probably do
Speaker 1: that in Green Bay with a guy Davante Adams. With
Speaker 1: Jona Allison and Davanta Adams. You worry a little bit
Speaker 1: concussions with Davante Adams pretty much every injury with Randall Cobb.
Speaker 1: One more name that we didn't mention. Greg Yeah's Ivory
Speaker 1: very much so. A guy that you should pay attention
Speaker 1: to lay in drafts as well. All Right, there you go. Uh,
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