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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbo.

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Speaker 2: I'll that for me. I'm a man, I'm for I've

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Speaker 2: heard so many players say, well, I want to be happy.

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Speaker 2: You want to be happy for Dake Edith State. Is that?

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Speaker 2: Woom woom? And Dan and Tie.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the solid verbal boys and girls. My

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Speaker 1: name is Ty Hildenbrand, joining me as always over there

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Speaker 1: in beautiful New York City, the one, the only Dan Ruberstein.

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Speaker 2: Sir, how are you. I'm good. I am mentally preparing

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Speaker 2: to fly with a ten month old across the country.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what will your podcast playlist be looking like?

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Speaker 2: Oh my, there will be no podcast. It's just survival.

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Speaker 2: Tie is just.

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Speaker 1: Podcast at that point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm and we're really trying not to do the

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Speaker 2: screen thing, trying to keep his eyes just on real

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Speaker 2: life items and objects. But I don't know if we're

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Speaker 2: gonna make it.

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Speaker 1: Tie does he does he respond to the screen?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the zombies out. Yeah, okay, I mean it's

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Speaker 2: all incidental contact to bring it back to football, sure,

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Speaker 2: but it's a challenge. So if anybody, by the way,

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Speaker 2: before we get into week thirteen, action and naming and

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Speaker 2: all sorts of picks and locks and traps and sandwiches.

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Speaker 2: If anybody's got any advice on non screen, because we're

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Speaker 2: going to try to make this work as long as

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Speaker 2: humanly possible, because eventually we're going to give in to

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Speaker 2: sweet ladies' screen time. Tie, right, but to prolong that

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Speaker 2: on a flight with a pretty active ten month old,

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Speaker 2: hit me up solid verbal at gmail dot com, Dan

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Speaker 2: Rubinstein on Twitter or Instagram or wherever you want. But

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Speaker 2: now tie. Now that I've gotten past that mental hurdle,

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty ready to talk Week thirteen before my travels.

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Speaker 1: What about savor the screen Saturday? Given your cross country

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Speaker 1: flying predicament, it's not bad.

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Speaker 2: I don't hate it because we're also savoring our screen

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Speaker 2: time with exactly as the season winds down.

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Speaker 1: Exactly.

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Speaker 2: I was thinking, because I have your document in front

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Speaker 2: of me. In the way that you've talked about games

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Speaker 2: or rivalries or odd lines and such, and obviously Patriot

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Speaker 2: League stuff. I think you're under selling once again, like

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Speaker 2: you've done many weeks, the excitement of week thirteen and

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Speaker 2: what I immediately went to as I walked past a

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Speaker 2: my Malana grade Korean restaurant. I'm super into bon chan

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Speaker 2: and I already talked about but I know you're not

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Speaker 2: going to be very inside baseball, isn't it. So bon

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Speaker 2: Chan is your little side dishes, A lot of pickled items,

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Speaker 2: pickled vegetables, broths that are not the big, large format

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Speaker 2: meal portion of a Korean feast. And I say this

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Speaker 2: as a Korean food amateur, but the small little dishes

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Speaker 2: of kimchi and the like that they get me going ty.

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Speaker 2: Boise State, Utah State gets me going.

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Speaker 1: I have never heard of any of these dishes.

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Speaker 2: Boise State is a pretty successful program in the Mountain region.

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Speaker 1: Now I've heard of Boise, I haven't heard of the dish.

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Speaker 1: Oh you never heard of kimchi? No, no, no, I haven't.

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Speaker 2: I haven't heard of Slytherin. But I think kimchi is

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Speaker 1: Right Solibo at gmail dot com. I don't know about that.

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Speaker 2: Kimchi is pickled cabbage. It smells pretty funky, but it's

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Speaker 1: I could go side dish Saturday.

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Speaker 2: It's not bad. We be a little bit pached that

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Speaker 2: with like the appetizer thing spicy meball Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm intrigued by Michigan, Indiana, I'm intrigued by

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Speaker 2: The Stanford Acts, Cal Stanford. Of course, it's it's you

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Speaker 1: How about this? How about this? How about I go

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Speaker 1: back to something else, simple, Cincy. How about I go

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Speaker 1: Thought was good because with a lazy Susan, you've got

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, we can whitewash my idea, Tye, lazy Susan Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Hello, swelcome back to the show Spin that bad boy around.

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Speaker 1: We're here to talk about all things Week thirteen. I'm Tye,

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Speaker 1: He's Dan. Don't forget to give us a call at

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Speaker 1: saying hell, guys and girls. The reverbline at gmail dot

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Speaker 1: every Sunday courtesy of our friend Ryan, who puts them together.

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Speaker 1: dot reddit dot com. There's also a pick a pool

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Speaker 1: where all the games we're talking about tonight will be featured.

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Speaker 1: You go to soliverble dot com slash pick them. It's

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Speaker 1: free to play, play against your friends, send them an email,

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Speaker 1: get it in on a pool. It's week to week.

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Speaker 2: We've done some some animosity in the air after this, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: We've got LSU, Ohio State and Clempson one, two, three,

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Speaker 2: So? I saw that there was some curious eyebrows, some

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Speaker 2: head the Nitney Lyons clear as day they won. Yep,

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Speaker 2: So there are two spots ahead. And was there any

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Speaker 1: Right? I would be inclined to put Minnesota above Penn State.

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Speaker 1: No. I get the reasoning, I get the rationale, but

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Speaker 1: Enough, fair enough, fair enough. I think that's a valid point,

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Speaker 2: Damn it is Week thirteen.

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Speaker 1: Lazy Susan Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Do you like a good lazy Susan.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited to get feedback that they spent more time

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Speaker 1: That's fine, cool, that's fine. High Noon, Big Noon on

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Speaker 2: You think it's closer, I do, I do.

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Speaker 1: I totally get the logic behind making this a nineteen

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Speaker 2: Who's the best quarterback that Ohio State has played this year?

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Speaker 2: this point. It's probably him or Travis Dtn. I'll respect

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00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 2: to Jonathan Taylor. But in terms of changing a game

435
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 2: and going deep, I guess with the ball, I think

436
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 2: I think it's just gonna play out a lot like

437
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,120
Speaker 2: the Wisconsin game did. So I have it forty two

438
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:38,160
Speaker 2: to twenty Ohio State for Yeah, you know, could beah

439
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 2: seventy ten at halftime or something like that, and you're like,

440
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 2: we've bought ourselves a game. And then it's a special

441
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 2: teams play and a pick and all of a sudden

442
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:48,360
Speaker 2: it just opens up.

443
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 1: I could see it. I could totally see it. I

444
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 1: just the secondary and the deep coverage bunds. Man, it's

445
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 1: not even coverage. Bus.

446
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,919
Speaker 2: They just give too much of a cushion they do.

447
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,479
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to get up, been the grill of

448
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 1: some of these Ohio State receivers if they want to

449
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 1: have any success here and change the game, change the

450
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 1: game for Justin Fields in a way that it Nick

451
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 1: frankly hasn't been changed for him yet. So I think

452
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 1: we're in general agreement. We both favor Ohio State here.

453
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 1: I have final score, final score thirty one seventeen Ohio State. Okay,

454
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 1: so we sort of agree.

455
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we really haven't seen and I've talked about

456
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:32,639
Speaker 2: this on a show I was on, I think our

457
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 2: friend Tim Murray show, The Daily Line. We haven't seen

458
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 2: justin fields really pressed to make plays. No, we haven't

459
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,919
Speaker 2: a tight we have him in the second half, we

460
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,640
Speaker 2: haven't seen that. So data wise, we don't know. We

461
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 2: really don't know what to expect from an Ohio State

462
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 2: team who's deep into the third quarter only up by four.

463
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 2: But we've seen Penn State against some decent quarterbacks now

464
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,400
Speaker 2: and it's not the prettiest thing.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's jump around here. Let's talk about some

466
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Speaker 1: other action. Let's other games of interest that definitely deserve

467
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 1: preview treatment.

468
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 2: Here, Pitt at Virginia Tech. Yeah, look, you're laughing at

469
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 2: Bud Foster's final game in Lane Stadium. Tie.

470
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 1: Oh whatever, laugh whatever. Three point thirty ESPN two Pit

471
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 1: at Virginia Tech. Virginia Tech about a three and a

472
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 1: half four point favorite. We've been talking about the Hokies

473
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 1: a few weeks running. Now it does seem like they

474
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: found their quarterback, and Hendon Hooker started out one and two,

475
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 1: they've gone six and one since. They now sit at

476
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Speaker 1: seven and three, encouraging that the defense has progressively played

477
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,159
Speaker 1: better over the last three weeks. I think all that

478
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 1: stuff is very positive for Virginia Tech. Pitt is also

479
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 1: a very quiet seven to three. Their offense is a mess,

480
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: but defensively they're like top ten quality. This strikes me.

481
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: Ninety is a three point game one way or the other.

482
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Speaker 2: This is a close ACC game.

483
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Speaker 1: I think I favor Virginia Tech not just because they're

484
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 1: at home, but because I think Hendon Hooker, with what

485
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 1: he brings with his legs on the ground, could pose

486
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 1: a threat an issue against a Pitt defense that has

487
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 1: had some issues with the run. So I like Pitt's

488
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,959
Speaker 1: pass defense, but against the run, maybe not a stout.

489
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: This is something like twenty three to twenty one. This

490
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:24,120
Speaker 1: is definitely the kind of game that has something stupid,

491
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 1: like a doint de extra point or a safety, or

492
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 1: a fumble out of the end zone or just ah

493
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 1: one of those weird ACC games where something strange happens

494
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 1: and the team favor does not cover. So I'm taking

495
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 1: three and a half points.

496
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 2: Like a game where a team is down to a

497
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 2: crazy play needed to win the game on a kick

498
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 2: off return and they get two thirds of the way down.

499
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,199
Speaker 1: It's like a weird hooking ladder or a pass across

500
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: the field and alignment picks it up and uh huh

501
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 1: one of those deals. Yeah.

502
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 2: I have it thirty to twenty one. Virginia Tech emotional

503
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 2: spot because the Bud Foster thing, and you're right, Virginia Tech.

504
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 2: I think it was five of six, not six of seven,

505
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 2: but Pitt is six of seven. Virginia Tech obviously loses

506
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 2: to Notre Dame. Pitt to Miami Pitch shelled the Hokies

507
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 2: last year by thirty like fifty two to twenty two.

508
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 2: Kadri Allison and Darren Hall ran wild, Kenny Pickett was money.

509
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be a revenge spot for Virginia Tech.

510
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,120
Speaker 2: I think they momentum wise. It momentum is fake, I understand,

511
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,160
Speaker 2: but just the confidence with which they're playing. I think

512
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 2: there's something about the Virginia Tech passing attack. Now you

513
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 2: mentioned Hendon Hooker's legs. I think they're going to and

514
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 2: Pitt gives up some bigger plays through the air, even

515
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 2: though the defense has been pretty phenomenal this year. I

516
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 2: have thirty one, thirty to twenty one Hokies in a

517
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 2: cold and wet lane stadium, seven thirty ABC.

518
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 1: Your Red Box Bowl defending champions. Where's my have Oregon Ducks?

519
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 2: Where's my hair?

520
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: On the road at Arizona State, they are about a

521
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: fourteen and a half point favorite here, Dan, some yeah,

522
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: background quickly on the home team. ASU started three to zero,

523
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: went to Michigan State one, and everyone, ourselves included, we

524
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 1: were talking them up quietly. Now they've lost four in

525
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: a row, and they had all the way down at

526
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: five and five. Now they have an opportunity to play

527
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: a spoiler here, both nationally and within their own conference.

528
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 1: Is that something you find worrisome as an Oregon guy.

529
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 2: Sure, I've never really considered Oregon to be playoff caliber.

530
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 2: I think they're just short of playoff caliber. I've always

531
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 2: had a preference for Oregon to go to the Rose Bowl,

532
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 2: and still do. But Oregon's way better than ASU. Oregons

533
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:35,959
Speaker 2: should beat the Sun Devils. And as you mentioned, they

534
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 2: have lost four in a row, and the big part

535
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 2: of that is their defense has been totally shelled through

536
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 2: the air, and we saw it against Oregon State and

537
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 2: USC especially early, didn't I think Keidon Slovas through for

538
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 2: like two hundred yards in the first quarter. Yeah, Yeah,

539
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 2: it was something wild I don't know what to think

540
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 2: fully about this game. I think Oregon should be able

541
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 2: to jump on them early and run the ball distance themselves.

542
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 2: So I was going back and forth. It's not really

543
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 2: a look ahead spot, even though it's rivalry week ahead

544
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 2: for both of these with Oregon Oregon State and Arizona

545
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 2: State Arizona. I was texting with our pal Jeff Schwartz,

546
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 2: and he told me he loved Arizona State to cover.

547
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 2: Right now, I'm positive Oregon is going to cover because

548
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 2: he is always wrong. Jeff is always wrong about the

549
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 2: Oregon Ducks. Okay, So I am just fading Jeff and

550
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 2: I'm taking the ducks. And by the way, you should

551
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 2: listen to Jeff's podcast. I think it's called Jeff Schwartz

552
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 2: is Smarter than You. Yeah, it's produced by our friends.

553
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 2: It's wonderful. He talked about wanting to sit down at

554
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 2: an EDM concert. It's great, Okay, Jeff is I.

555
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: Mean he's a big enough dude that he can get

556
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: away with that.

557
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 2: He can? He absolutely can. I have a forty five

558
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 2: to twenty one ducks.

559
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: I think I'm with you. I am very confident Oregon

560
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: wins this game. I don't see the firepower for asc.

561
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: You could talk about they have they have a wide

562
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: receiver who's excellent. But yeah, yeah, I get it. But

563
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: we can focus on their defense till we're blue in

564
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: the face. I just I don't see the firepower on offense.

565
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: I don't think they're good enough to overcome a good

566
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: Oregon defense and still score enough to win.

567
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 2: Here.

568
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: You can certainly exploit them through the air, as you mentioned.

569
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: So what'd you say your final is forty five to

570
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: twenty five.

571
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 2: To twenty one.

572
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure they get to twenty one. I'll

573
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: say I'll say thirty eight, thirty eight, seventeen, Okay, so yeah,

574
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: eight pm on the Fox Network TCU at Oklahoma. Another

575
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: big point spread here, Oklahoma by seventeen and a half

576
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: by eighteen points according to the S and P Plus.

577
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: Now tc is another top forty team, Dan and yeah,

578
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: for as much as it pains me with the horn Frogs,

579
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: you know my theory about Oklahoma and their separation anxiety

580
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: when it comes to top forty teams top forty opponents.

581
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 2: Right, especially on defense, they've been giving up some some leeway.

582
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: Granted, this is a really good test of that theory,

583
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: especially at home at night. Letdown spot sure, but I'm

584
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: going to go TCU to cover Oklahoma to win thirty

585
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: four to twenty four is my final. I want to

586
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: see if TCU can run on Oklahoma. I want to

587
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: see if they can control clock. I think that's the

588
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: move they can't score with Oklahoma. They're not good enough

589
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: on offense to do that. But Okay, run the ball,

590
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: control the clock, limit how many opportunities Jalen Hurts has

591
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: to kill you, and see how far it takes you.

592
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: Ten point win for Oklahoma at home.

593
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 2: I really wanted to take TCU outright. It feels like

594
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 2: because of the letdown factor, for Oklahoma to just put

595
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 2: everything into that second half comeback that they did on

596
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 2: both sides of the ball, they needed every second of

597
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 2: that second half, it felt like I wanted to take TCU.

598
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 2: It does feel like a game that you see scroll

599
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 2: across or you just stop paying attention to on a

600
00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 2: second screen all of a sudden, it's wait, what twenty

601
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 2: one three? Yeah, frogs, excuse me, I know, but just

602
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 2: like we felt seeing I mean, we were watching every

603
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 2: second of Baylor Oklahoma, so we were there when that

604
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 2: score got out of hand in the first half. But

605
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 2: Oklahoma's won five in a row against the Frogs, and

606
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 2: just in terms of explosion, I think you're right. TCU,

607
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 2: I don't think can keep up. You need to score

608
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 2: thirty points against Oklahoma, and I think it's possible. I

609
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 2: just don't know if it's possible for TCU. We saw

610
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 2: them score nearly forty against Texas. So if tc is

611
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 2: winning this game, it's a thirty four to thirty one,

612
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 2: thirty seven, thirty something like that, I think Oklahoma pulls

613
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 2: it out. I think they're getting healthier. I did see

614
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 2: Ceedee Lamb is still considered up in the air per

615
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley. Yeah, so I don't know at how strong

616
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 2: they will be on the outside, but they've recruited well enough.

617
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 2: I just at this point, I think we've seen enough

618
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 2: from Jalen Hurts both at Alabama and now at Oklahoma

619
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 2: to just say, yes, he's good, but I don't trust him.

620
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 2: I just don't. Against a DC team, he seems to

621
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 2: be good for two and a half what the hell

622
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 2: moments every game and against a defense that I still

623
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 2: think is pretty good in TCU, they're good enough to

624
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 2: take advantage of a short field if he just randomly

625
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 2: drops the ball, which he does well.

626
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: But the counterpoint is the Baylor game. The counterpoints the

627
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: Bailor game. Granted you had those three. The first half

628
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: was awful.

629
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 2: No, you had moments. I'm giving you that. And even Ty,

630
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 2: even when he makes terrific plays, he just drops back.

631
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 2: There's basically no footwork, and you're just sort of in

632
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 2: your mind saying, and I'm hoping he makes a good

633
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 2: play because I want it to be a good game,

634
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 2: and I'm in my mind, I'm saying, no, no, no,

635
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 2: what are you doing? Oh god, oh god? And then

636
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 2: he just makes an incredible play. I can't imagine what

637
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 2: it's like for Oklahoma fans to put so much emotion

638
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 2: into something either amazing happening or a disaster happening on

639
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 2: any given play. Let's live it on the edge.

640
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: But he did bring him back from totally a pretty

641
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: steep deficit against Baylor to win that game, keep them

642
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: alive in the playoff hunt. I don't know, we'll see.

643
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: I think we're in agreement that Oklahoma wins this game.

644
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: What is your final score?

645
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 2: Again? I have it, I didn't say it. I have

646
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 2: thirty to twenty four. Sooners. All right, so we agree,

647
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 2: then we agree points covered.

648
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, from great comebacks to how about our

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Speaker 1: Dan Yeah three thirty CBS Texas A and M at Georgia,

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Speaker 1: Georgia thirteen fourteen point favorite. Let me ask you this,

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Speaker 1: we got any let down here for Georgia After the

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Speaker 1: big win at.

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Speaker 2: Auburn potentially, sure, Yeah, hanging on like that on the

695
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 2: road in a rivalry game, and totally unfamiliar with Texas

696
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 2: A and M. By the way, and any personnel in

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Speaker 2: Texas A and M. Why they've been in the same

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00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 2: conference for eight years? How many times they've played? Zero times?

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00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 2: They played zero times, occupying the same conference, same major

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Speaker 2: conference in college football. Go to pods. Let's go to pod.

701
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: Has it been eight years?

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00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty twelve. Good hell, in the middle of the

703
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 2: eighth season of these two teams in the same conference.

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00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 2: I believe that the last time they played, period, it

705
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Speaker 2: was like nineteen eighty.

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Speaker 1: Geez, have you have you? By the way, I looked

707
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Speaker 1: at nm's final t games, I have it's Georgia LSU.

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00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 2: Of course they always finished with LSU now and I

709
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 2: was looking at their the entirety. I was approaching this

710
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 2: in a holistic fashion.

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00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: Tie. It's brutal. It is brutal.

712
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 2: They've only lost to legit teams, so they've got down

713
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 2: to teams.

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00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've got Georgia and LSU on the road, both

715
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: on the road to close out the year. And that's

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Speaker 1: on top of a schedule that featured Clemson Auburn and Alabama.

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00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: So yeah, seven and five feels very likely, but maybe

718
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Speaker 1: like the best seven and five team in the country

719
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Speaker 1: given the schedule.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they play with a what do we call a

721
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 2: quiet competence. Sure, somebody said that about me, I'd be

722
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 2: so pumped. Sure, they've won four straight. Again, they've only

723
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Speaker 2: lost to those legit teams. They haven't beaten necessarily what

724
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 2: I guess we would define to be a legit team.

725
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,959
Speaker 2: And the Eggs can run. Starting running back goes down

726
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 2: corbyin to you know, pretty early on in the season.

727
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 2: They've they've filled that in nicely. The passing game is

728
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:17,760
Speaker 2: still pretty rough downfield, I guess until proven otherwise against

729
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 2: a decent team. But if you play defense and run

730
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 2: the ball, that keeps you in a lot of games.

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Speaker 2: I have a twenty four to thirteen George, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: take the points.

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Speaker 1: I'm taking points here as well. Dan, I think there

734
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: is a bit of a hangover for Georgia. I think

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Speaker 1: A and M is good enough to score points. I

736
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Speaker 1: don't really trust Georgia's offense, So yeah, that seems like

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Speaker 1: a recipe to take points.

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Speaker 2: I agree. We're agreeing a lot tonight.

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00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: This is weird.

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Speaker 2: I know it is strange. Who They've just killed South Carolina? Right,

741
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 2: Texas A and M after a bye week, So I

742
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 2: got real close to taking A and M. But the

743
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 2: best thing in this game is George's defense, and it's

744
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 2: at home, so I'm not going to go too crazy.

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Speaker 1: Three point thirty FS one, Texas at Baylor. The Bears

746
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Speaker 1: are a five point favorite in What say you about

747
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:03,760
Speaker 1: a hangover for Baylor? Now?

748
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 2: Oh, it's a very real thing. It feels like, God,

749
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Speaker 2: it feels like every week for Texas right now, overtime,

750
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Speaker 2: last second kick. We saw you know, the Longhorns lose

751
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 2: on that last week. A lot of offensive issues in

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00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 2: Burnt Orange. Defensive issues have actually gotten a little bit better. Yeah,

753
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 2: but the yeah, the predictability. It's Sam Ellinger just it

754
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 2: doesn't feel like he's taking a step forward this year.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that's on the coaches. I don't

756
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 2: know if it's on injuries. You know, Colin Johnson's been

757
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 2: beat up. The running game hasn't been consistent. I don't

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Speaker 2: think you need a ton of points to beat Baylor, though, No,

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Speaker 2: so let me let me have it.

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Speaker 1: I have it, Okay, Sorry, jo, I was gonna say,

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Speaker 1: do we apply the good defense at home rule to Baylor,

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Speaker 1: because actually are pretty good on defense.

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Speaker 2: They're not dogs though they're not dogs, They're not dogs true,

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Speaker 2: So I'm not going to apply that right now. Baylor

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Speaker 2: and the Snow Advisor, if you want to play the

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Speaker 2: sound undeniably good.

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Speaker 1: This cloud cover coming up from Waco, Waco, Raco. The

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Speaker 1: snow Advisory is real and spectacular for sure.

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Speaker 2: I want to let people know you are not taking

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Speaker 2: a few seconds to find that when I just put

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Speaker 2: you on the spot. No, this is immedia. You're not

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Speaker 2: editing it to sound real quick. So great on you,

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Speaker 2: thank you. I think it's going to be sort of

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Speaker 2: a where was this game? For Texas fans watching? Ut

775
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 2: I have it as twenty one to twenty, a haunting score.

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00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 2: I know, Longhorns because of last week. I have Texas

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Speaker 2: winning it real twenty one to twenty, and I actually

778
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 2: am going to lock up Texas as foolish. Are you serious?

779
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 2: I am? Yeah, lock of the week? Okay, okay. They

780
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 2: just think there's something about Texas that, like, right when

781
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,479
Speaker 2: I thought you couldn't get any you know, that kind.

782
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Speaker 1: Of totally redeem yourself.

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00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think they're going to totally redeem themselves

784
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 2: in Waco in a letdown spot.

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00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: I hate the Texas defense, hate it, but I'm not

786
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 1: crazy about the Baylor offense right, and I do believe.

787
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 2: Once they score in a big game in the second

788
00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 2: half last week.

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Speaker 1: Zero zero, Yeah, big old goose egg, I'm gonna go

790
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: Texas plus the points. I don't know if I like

791
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 1: them to win, but I think they keep this one close.

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00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: It's still an in state game, It's still a big

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00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 1: game for Texas, and it would not at all surprise

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00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 1: me if Baylor is still sucking wind after that stomach

795
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 1: punch from a week ago.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, we agree again. Geez, you don't want to

797
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Speaker 2: double barrel lock though.

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Speaker 1: No, mine's coming up next.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: Three point thirty ESPN Michigan on the road at the

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Speaker 1: Indiana Hoosiers. Michigan is an eight and a half point

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Speaker 1: road favorite, which means that Indiana is an eight and

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00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 1: a half point home dog. Dan the Yukos home dog

804
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: of the week.

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00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,760
Speaker 2: So here is the thing, Daniel. Yeah, a lot of confusion.

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00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 2: By the way, about that ending sound really Yacko's home

807
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Speaker 2: dog of the weekend.

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Speaker 1: That's what I've seen in the the what's the confusion.

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00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 2: Some people thought it was like a motorcycle shorting out

810
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 2: a motorcycle. Yeah. Some people thought it's a ketchup bottle.

811
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 2: I thought that was obvious. Some people thought it was

812
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 2: what might happen to your body after eating greasy food.

813
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 2: Also true, also true, also true, not of Yako's no no,

814
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,720
Speaker 2: but greasy food in general. Sometimes here is ketchup bottle.

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00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 2: Here's the thing about Michigan. Yeah, a lot of momentum. Yep.

816
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 1: Certainly feels like something clicked and they're trending in the

817
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 1: right direction.

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00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 2: Right.

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00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that we agree on this point, Yes.

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00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 2: Yes we do.

821
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 1: But it's a week after Michigan State, a week before

822
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: Ohio State. Indiana is not a bad team, Dan, look

823
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Speaker 1: godd sandwich. I'm so hungry, I'm.

824
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 2: So strongly.

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00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: Classic letdown look ahead sandwich one. We've been talking about

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00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: for weeks on end. It would be malpractice of me

827
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: to not go all in in this football game.

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00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 2: You've been talking about this as a letdown look ahead

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00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 2: since like early July, it might be since March. Honestly, Yeah,

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00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 2: that's true. We've been in a lot of shows.

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Speaker 1: Indiana is not a bad team. They're they're good on offense,

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00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: they're better than they used to be on defense. They've

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00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: made some serious strides there. They could have beaten Penn

834
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: State a week ago. They were close, they had opportunities.

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Speaker 2: It was what on side at the end, YEP. I

836
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 2: don't want to.

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Speaker 1: Go so far as to say that Indiana wins this

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00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: game out right, but there are a number of atmospheric

839
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: factors to use a big word yeah, that I think

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00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: are going in Indiana's direction here. My only concern is

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Speaker 1: that there might be a little bit of a hangover

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00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 1: for Indiana as well after getting so close against Penn State.

843
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: But sure, I think yeah, on the road, I think

844
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: they keep this one close. And I think offensively and

845
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 1: defensively they're good enough to hang with Michigan. I've got

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00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: Michigan winning this one. I think it's close. I think

847
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: it's something like twenty seven twenty three. Michigan wins, but

848
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: does not cover Indiana home Dog of the Week covers

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Speaker 1: point spread at home.

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Speaker 2: I saw a stat and it would have been really

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Speaker 2: professional and responsible of me to actually copy paste it

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Speaker 2: or something into our document, but I didn't. It was

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00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 2: from Chris Filika from ESPN talking about how Michigan and

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Speaker 2: Ohio State have done against the spread. And you can

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Speaker 2: look this up perhaps as I'm talking ahead of playing

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Speaker 2: each other, obviously both teams with tough games this week,

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Speaker 2: and it was the stat was something like Michigan is

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Speaker 2: oh for their last three under Jim Harbaugh before Ohio State,

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Speaker 2: you know, against the spread and playing against whoever they're

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Speaker 2: playing against, and Oiso State was over their last six

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Speaker 2: and covering a spread as double digit favorites. And so

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Speaker 2: there is I see the inclination to go with the

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Speaker 2: home team, a pretty good team at home, and a

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Speaker 2: look ahead spot, and honestly, yeah, you're right, it is

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Speaker 2: a letdown spot for Michigan is well because of the

866
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 2: Michigan State. When you win a rivalry game, you're gonna

867
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 2: be feeling pretty good.

868
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: But but you're going to disagree.

869
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 2: I think you have an attraction to Indiana in this

870
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 2: situation that's been building since the spring, that's probably a

871
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 2: little bit too robust. Michigan is not going to have

872
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 2: the the lapses I think Penn State had Defensively, I

873
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 2: think they're too talented on defense and two together on

874
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 2: defense all over, on all three levels. I think offensively

875
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna be able to move the ball

876
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 2: pretty well over the course of this game. I don't

877
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 2: think it's going to be runway. I don't thin they're

878
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 2: gonna be up fourteen to nothing at the end of

879
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 2: the first quarter. I think it's going to be slow,

880
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 2: maybe a crock potting of sorts. But the last time

881
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 2: Indiana beat Michigan tie, and I know there's an attraction

882
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 2: for you for this game was nineteen eighty seven. Yeah,

883
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 2: that was the year after Jim Harbaugh graduated. And the

884
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 2: number one movie in America October the weekend of October

885
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 2: twenty fourth, nineteen eighty seven, when Indiana beat Michigan. It

886
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 2: was a beauchemb Decker loss for the Mazing Blue, the

887
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 2: number one movie in America.

888
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: It was Mowana, Right.

889
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 2: Fatal attraction. Wow, fatal attraction. And that's what I think

890
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 2: you have with your lust for the Hoosier saying there's

891
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 2: nothing wrong with that. Thirty to thirteen. Michigan says me.

892
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 2: We disagree.

893
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 1: I'm walking up in but I'm wearing.

894
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 2: Okay, luck of the week. Fatal attraction.

895
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,959
Speaker 1: All right. Some other quick ones that we got to mention.

896
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: I put this one on the slate because a verballer

897
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 1: brought it to our attention, and frankly, it confused me

898
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: as well. It's at high noon, it's on ABC, it's

899
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 1: Minnesota on the road at Northwestern. Now, the point spread

900
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 1: here is currently up around thirteen and a half fourteen points,

901
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: but it opened at Minnesota minus seven. Yeah, a lot

902
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: of action came in on that, as you might expect

903
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: a lot of people and.

904
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 2: You beat you mass right, it's a game changer, Tye.

905
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: A lot of action coming in on Minnesota, which is

906
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 1: why the point spread has just not doubled. But I'll

907
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: be honest, Dan, I'm still scratching my head. I haven't

908
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: found anything at all indicating that this would be remotely close.

909
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: And even though the line isn't currently so egregious, I

910
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: sort of want to steer into the weird opening line here, Like, right,

911
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: what does Vegas know that we don't? Why why did

912
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: they open it so low? So against better judgment and

913
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: really without any supporting evidence. I'm going to go Northwestern

914
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 1: plus the points.

915
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:35,919
Speaker 2: Just because of the weird line.

916
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 1: Just it's so weird, right, we steer into that. That's

917
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: our model right here.

918
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 2: I couldn't talk myself The only positive thing I could

919
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 2: find was that Minnesota has had a lot of success

920
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 2: going downfield, and Northwestern's defense has done a good job

921
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 2: limiting those types of plays. But that's not enough for

922
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 2: me when you haven't historically historically not like a down year.

923
00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 2: Northwestern's offense in general has been bad, really bad thing

924
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 2: new the year. Over years, I'm saying they've been bad,

925
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 2: but good enough to win games. They're not good enough

926
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 2: to be below average. They're got good enough to be bad. No,

927
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 2: So I have this one, thirty one to ten Minnesota.

928
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 2: Northwestern went stretches. The Northwestern has been a The last

929
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 2: time they scored a touchdown was September twenty Yeah, they

930
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 2: and half year they had. Yeah, Like you have to

931
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 2: google twenty nineteen calendar to realize how long it's been.

932
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 2: So I have a thirty one to ten Minnesota. If

933
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 2: you like Northwestern in this game, that's great.

934
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: Ty.

935
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 2: Who's the best picture in baseball right now?

936
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: Best picture in baseball? Gear Cole the Astro.

937
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, saying you you like Northwestern this game is saying

938
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 2: blindfold me, let me stand in the box, give me

939
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 2: one thousand swings, and I bet I can get a

940
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 2: single off of Garrett Cole. That's what it takes. Maybe

941
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 2: it'll happen. Maybe you just blind dumb luck. But you

942
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 2: gotta give me a reason why. You gotta give me

943
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 2: a sensible reason. I don't see it.

944
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: Noon Big ten Network Illinois at Iowa. Iowa is a

945
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: thirteen and a half point home favorite, but Illinois is

946
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: Revin for seven Dan.

947
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 2: They are Revin for said. I don't want to get

948
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 2: in the way of Lovey Smith's magnificent beard, his victory beard.

949
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 1: Where do we stand in this game? How do you feel?

950
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 2: A big letdown spot for Iowa? Speaking of Minnesota, Illinois

951
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,280
Speaker 2: is and has become the king of doing everything wrong

952
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 2: and stumbling into a win.

953
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,399
Speaker 1: The bull eligibility falling off the back of a truck.

954
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 2: This year, I don't know what it is. Illinois was

955
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 2: just born lucky. This year, Iowa feels like a team

956
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 2: who can oblige, a team doing everything it can to

957
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 2: lose and winning. So I'll just I'll happily take the

958
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 2: points because quiet competence describes Illinois sometimes and Iowa in

959
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 2: a letdown spot. I have a Hawkeyes twenty four to

960
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 2: twenty three. They win, but it's way closer than it

961
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 2: should be.

962
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:55,760
Speaker 1: I agree.

963
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 2: I agree.

964
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 1: I think a little bit of a letdown for Iowa

965
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: as well. And Illinois is yeah, sort of in that

966
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 1: weird we're heaven for seven and also sometimes being better

967
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: to be lucky.

968
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 2: You look at you look at Illinois numbers. By the way,

969
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 2: I was perusing some of the very specifics of their

970
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 2: year data wise. Yeah, it's like their pass efficiency is

971
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 2: one hundred and eighteenth in the country. They're like success

972
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 2: rate is one hundred and fourteenth through the air, and

973
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 2: then it's like explosive passing plays thirty eight. It doesn't

974
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 2: make It's like looking at air Force's numbers, and Illinois

975
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 2: is now a bowl team in the Big Ten. So

976
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 2: it's quite a year.

977
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:40,720
Speaker 1: Three thirty ABC, UCLA at USC. This is the victory

978
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 1: bill game.

979
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 2: Correct.

980
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,280
Speaker 1: USC is a thirteen and a half point home favorite,

981
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 1: dan mm hmm. Thirteen and a half points, so you

982
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: got I.

983
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 2: Have USC big? I do. I think it's a great matchup.

984
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 2: It looks like it's gonna be Clay Helton's last home game, right,

985
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 2: I would think so. Yeah, before James Franklin takes over

986
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 2: the Urban Meyer excuse me, sorry, USC fans will be

987
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 2: enthusiastic because their positive Urban Meyer is coming.

988
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 1: He's not coming.

989
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know. Maybe he will, he's not coming.

990
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 2: They seem to think he is tie and I don't

991
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 2: think you would know better. Yeah, there's a lot of like, listen,

992
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 2: my uncle is pretty connected and your uncle is not connected.

993
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 2: You're not getting Urban money next question. But in either case,

994
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 2: UCLA has a lot of difficulty keeping American footballs flying

995
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 2: through the air in front of them, and USC has

996
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 2: one of probably the Alabama has a better receiving core

997
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 2: than them, but probably one of the best three receiving

998
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 2: corps in the country. It's a bad matchup for UCLA.

999
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 2: I think Keaton Sullivis is coming into his own. It's

1000
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 2: a big emotional spot for USC to make a statement

1001
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 2: after losing this game last year, right, yep, can't do that.

1002
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 2: So I think they win big. I think it's going

1003
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 2: to be something like forty seven to fourteen. It's a

1004
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 2: comfortable win for the Trojans as they fight on into

1005
00:50:59,160 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 2: bull season.

1006
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: I guess UCLA's numbers against the pass are dreadful.

1007
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 2: Yes, did you watch any of the Utah game? I

1008
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 2: saw highlights, So UCLA was actually driving the ball, right

1009
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 2: running some option stuff with dtr and Kyle Phillips. I

1010
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,320
Speaker 2: think is a pretty good receiver. There are pieces on offense.

1011
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 2: But as soon as things went wrong, it was as

1012
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 2: if everybody in Blue and gold kind of threw up

1013
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 2: their arms. We're like, well, we tried, we had a

1014
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 2: good run. There were still three quarters ninety seven.

1015
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: It got ugly quickly in past defense one twenty and

1016
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: success rate one fourteen and marginal efficiency. This isn't good. No, no,

1017
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I agree, we agree, okay, And finally

1018
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: we got four pm.

1019
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 2: You just burp segue.

1020
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: There was a berth there.

1021
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 2: Nice leave that in.

1022
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: Please I will four pm PAC twelve network, Cal at

1023
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: Stanford got to talk about Cale at Stanford. We got, Yeah,

1024
00:51:56,280 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 1: Stanford here as two and a half point favorite.

1025
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna take Cal. I don't know why.

1026
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 2: I just Stanford's been a nightmare and Cal at least

1027
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,479
Speaker 2: will go week to week and sometimes show some fight,

1028
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 2: you know, to beat Wazoo that was in Berkeley. I believe.

1029
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1030
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 2: I don't have a good reason in this game. I

1031
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 2: just if I'm gonna give points, I'm going to be

1032
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 2: confident in a team as a as a favorite, and

1033
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 2: I just the Stanford team is too beat up on

1034
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 2: both sides of the ball. Uh yeah, I'm going Cal.

1035
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna agree with you again because like.

1036
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 2: The Cal secondary more than anything, even after being roasted by.

1037
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 1: Sc Evan Weaver is my favorite player in this game. Yeah,

1038
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 1: so I will side with him. And also it sets

1039
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: up really well for Stanford to lose this game and

1040
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: beat Notre Dame next weekend. In expect that's real, I do.

1041
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 2: Where's that game is in Palo Alto?

1042
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 1: In Palo Alto little house of Horrors?

1043
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 2: Have you? You've only been to La. You've never been

1044
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 2: anywhere else in California? Right, Okay, by the way to you,

1045
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 2: oh San Diego. If you're going to U Cucla and

1046
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 2: I guess it'll all be people from La anyway. Mostly

1047
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 2: get an La dog. I don't know if you know

1048
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,919
Speaker 2: what that is, but they're really good. It's bacon wrapped

1049
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 2: hot talks. There's vendors all over the place, right, that's it.

1050
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 1: So I got them.

1051
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 2: I've got more. I have definitely have more. Because the

1052
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 2: ACC's number two offense is traveling to South Bend, Indiana.

1053
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: Oh boy, points.

1054
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 2: Per drive d Analytics. Boston College, even with their backup quarterback,

1055
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,919
Speaker 2: pretty identical to Penn State's offense. As it turns out,

1056
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 2: Notre Dame is nineteen point favorites. Do you think they

1057
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 2: keep their offensive fireworks going against Boston College and a

1058
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 2: pretty woeful defense.

1059
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 1: I do, Actually, I do. I think they keep it

1060
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 1: moving and I like Notre Dame big.

1061
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 2: As we saw last weekend. With Notre Dame, you can

1062
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 2: throw on Navy, SMU can throw. SMU is a dog

1063
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 2: on the road against Navy. I think I'm gonna take

1064
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 2: the Stangs here, really, yeah. I mean they're not defensively,

1065
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 2: We're not great. We saw the shootout against DCU. I

1066
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 2: think I'm gonna go with SMU, though, I'm.

1067
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:08,800
Speaker 1: Gonna go Navy. Weird, weird offense, tough to prepare for, granted,

1068
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: a week after Notre Dame when they got murdered, but

1069
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Navy.

1070
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 2: Temple at Cincinnati American Implications, a week after Cincinnati struggled

1071
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 2: against South Florida.

1072
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: What do you think give me Cincinnati? You like Cincinnati

1073
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:27,839
Speaker 1: at home against Temple? Yeah, cincinnat obviously Temple edging two

1074
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:31,760
Speaker 1: lane Boise State, Utah State with Mountain West implications. Boise

1075
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 1: State eight point favorites at Utah State, who have taken

1076
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,399
Speaker 1: a noticeable step down in the Mountain West but are

1077
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: still in it for the Conference Crown. I believe, so

1078
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 1: Broncos down to their third string quarterback. I believe or

1079
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 1: Utah State and Gary Anderson.

1080
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 2: I am gonna go.

1081
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: U TOAs State plus the points whoa Jordan love? Yeah,

1082
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 1: Utah State plus the points. Too much uncertainty with that

1083
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 1: Boise offense right now, especially our quarterback. So okay, let's

1084
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 1: go you toss State plus.

1085
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Boise on. It's actually been kind of a down

1086
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 2: year defensively for Boise. We saw a bit of a

1087
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 2: shootout against San Jose State. They gave a bunch of

1088
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 2: to Hawaii. But it's last couple of weeks have been good.

1089
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna take Utah State as well at home.

1090
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:17,879
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's at altitude, but let's assume,

1091
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 2: so we can assume it's at altitude. Chuirs compared to

1092
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 2: hear everything's altitude very true. Next game that I have

1093
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 2: down here is UCF Twulane. You have six point favorites.

1094
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 2: Now they've lost three times, but I still think they

1095
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,280
Speaker 2: can be a fun offense, and I actually think Tulane

1096
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 2: may struggle against UCF and their passing game. So I'm

1097
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 2: actually going to as much as I like Tulane in

1098
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 2: New Orleans, I'm gonna go with the Knights.

1099
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 1: Here on the road, and I'm with you. Bad matchup.

1100
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 2: The Tennissance continues. Both teams are five and five by

1101
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 2: both teams, I mean Tennessee and missoo, who are favored

1102
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 2: by four points. Really really and the last time that's

1103
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 2: what I saw. We can double chick that. The last

1104
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 2: time Missouri scored more than two touchdowns in a game

1105
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 2: October twelfth. Jeez, we are recording this on November twentieth.

1106
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 2: I like Tennessee here.

1107
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna go with you. We're greeting way

1108
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 1: too much here. But no, that's weird. That's a strange

1109
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 1: line for me, and Missouri has not given us anything.

1110
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 2: Oregon State wazoo ooh, another five and five matchup.

1111
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 1: Ooh. That's interesting to me, especially because Oregon State, you

1112
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: see all this bonch on around the around the day.

1113
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: Wazuo is favored by ten and a half at home.

1114
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: I think Oregon State can keep it within ten and

1115
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: a half. I think they could score and keep it

1116
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: with in ten and a half. I don't think they

1117
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: can win, but I think they can. They can keep

1118
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:51,720
Speaker 1: it within the number.

1119
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 2: I think Wazoo poul verises them all right. We just

1120
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 2: it's a bad matchup for Oregon State. Wazoos actually good

1121
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 2: in Pullman and just not as good outside of Pullman.

1122
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 2: I think it can comfortably win San Diego State Hawaii

1123
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 2: with obviously uh more Mountain West implications. Why three point favorites,

1124
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:15,240
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm just I'm gonna go with Hawaii.

1125
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 2: It's that's a long long even though San Diego State's

1126
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 2: as close as it gets, I assume still a long way.

1127
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: I'll go San Diego State. I guess. I don't know.

1128
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 2: San Jose State. At four and six, they march toward

1129
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 2: Bowl eligibility versus UNLV and Fresno. I'm not going to

1130
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 2: ask you to pick anything, but I'd just like to

1131
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 2: highlight the Spartans, That's all. And then ty if you

1132
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 2: can drop, just drop that big stanky Drummond Fife tie,

1133
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 2: keeping it simple, keeping it clivalry weekend. Yeah, okay, but

1134
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 2: we got Lee High. At three and two, Lafayette at

1135
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 2: three and two in the Pat League Goodman Stadium, Goodman,

1136
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 2: States where they play Goodman Stadium. Yeah, lim from Lamb Lafayette,

1137
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 2: Limb from damn Limb.

1138
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 1: TI, I gotta go Lee High. I'm married to Lehigh Grad,

1139
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: so I gotta go lee High. But you know that

1140
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 1: I also have strong rooting interest for Big John Burke

1141
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 1: over with Lafayette as well.

1142
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 2: So win win for me.

1143
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 1: But let's go Leehead.

1144
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 2: What were the there was a phase of TVs? Was

1145
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 2: it DLP?

1146
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 1: Yep?

1147
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 2: They have been showing the Lehigh Lafayette game from these

1148
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 2: past few years on the d LPs and the Lafayette

1149
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 2: and lee High locker.

1150
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. Yeah.

1151
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 2: Limb from Limb laps Georgetown at one and four at

1152
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 2: Holy Cross four and one.

1153
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 1: Gotta gotta go Cross Saders here, don't you? I think so.

1154
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 2: I think so. It hurts me, but I think so.

1155
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 2: You just when you get used to the comforts of

1156
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 2: the hornets, Nesta is multis yeh.

1157
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 1: By the way, did you see did you see the

1158
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: tweet that someone sent us of them actually playing like

1159
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 1: La Cross or a field hockey game on multi sport

1160
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 1: field this past week?

1161
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 2: I did, I did that was terrific. Was it broadcast

1162
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 2: on ESPN plus? I don't know.

1163
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 1: Okay, someone sent us to screen grab. It was terrific.

1164
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1165
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:55,439
Speaker 2: I would love a multi sport field shirt. Maybe we'll

1166
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 2: make one buck Nell at three and two at Fordham

1167
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:00,120
Speaker 2: right here in the Bronx.

1168
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 1: One and four. I I'm gonna go for to them

1169
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 1: nearest one.

1170
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 2: On RAMS too. I am going Rams as well.

1171
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1172
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 2: Also, we we got a request to mention the Crawl

1173
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 2: of the Wild. Oh yeah, big Sky. Is that what

1174
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 2: it's called? The Crawl of the Wild.

1175
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm pulling up the tweet now, okay, yes, it

1176
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 1: is the Brawl of the Wild.

1177
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 2: Oh, brawl of I'm an idiot. Brawl of the Wild. Montana,

1178
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 2: Montana State, Bobcats, Grizzlies. Huh, trophy looks like a scene

1179
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 2: in Jurassic Park. If you know what I'm talking about.

1180
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 2: Ty yep, Montana or Montana State. Who do you have?

1181
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Montana even the grizz I'm.

1182
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 2: Gonna go grizz as well. I'm gonna go grizz as well.

1183
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 2: Here to break the streak. I think it's been three

1184
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 2: straight from Montana State. Shout out to the big sky ty,

1185
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 2: I am plumb out of college football material.

1186
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,439
Speaker 1: Well, thank you to one and all for downloading the show.

1187
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:58,960
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1188
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1190
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1191
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1193
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1194
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1195
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1197
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1201
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Speaker 1: do a good job putting that together for us each week.

1204
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Yep, and now I think I am

1205
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 1: out as well. Dan here on Lazy Susan Saturday.

1206
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 2: Okay, God, I'm just thinking about kimchi. Ty would you

1207
01:00:59,240 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 2: try kimchi?

1208
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 1: I would try it.

1209
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 2: I have no idea. What cabbage. It's pickled cabbage. There's

1210
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 2: some gosh, there's all sorts of ingredients in it, but

1211
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 2: the paste is in it, and it's fermented, so people

1212
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 2: will like bury it. People will leave it on their counter,

1213
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 2: will leave it in their garage for a month, couple

1214
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 2: weeks a year. So it developed some funk, but it

1215
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 2: adds a lot of punch, some oumami to your diet.

1216
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 1: By the way, Dan, let's close out with this in

1217
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 1: case anyone's wondering. This is sent to us by a

1218
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 1: loyal overballer. They have now released a second trailer for Cats,

1219
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 1: a star studded movie based on the musical by Andrew

1220
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 1: Lloyd Weber.

1221
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 2: Ails.

1222
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it opens on December twenty fifth. So when we

1223
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: say there's people in it, right, yes. When we say

1224
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 1: during your window of opportunity, maybe during bowl season to

1225
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 1: go out and maybe see Cats again, you can now

1226
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 1: literally go see Cats again?

1227
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 2: Fyi?

1228
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 1: Oh?

1229
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 2: Also, ty, as what, it's November twentieth. What do we

1230
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 2: need as November comes to a close.

1231
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: My birthday? This weekend.

1232
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 2: For one, it's your birthday this weekend. Yep, we're also

1233
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 2: approaching and I don't know if you have the sound

1234
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 2: at the ready you probably don't. But a December to

1235
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 2: remember and I can't wait.

1236
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 1: No, you know I do, Dan, come on, yeah, I.

1237
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 2: Had a lot of holiday bull thoughts, Chamelliable bowl swag,

1238
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 2: the gasparable like that you doubled up the L and

1239
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 2: that sound. There's a lot that. I don't know if

1240
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 2: it's Foster Farms anymore, I don't know if it's there's

1241
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 2: probably one in Detroit again. I haven't looked at the schedule,

1242
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 2: but I love this time of year. It's tie, I

1243
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 2: really do, Daniel.

1244
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 1: I've had a chance to let me dim the December

1245
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 1: to remember very intoxicating. I have had the opportunity to

1246
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 1: go through and look at some of the bulls this year,

1247
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 1: and I'm not going to read through all of them.

1248
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 1: As you know, some of them have very funny names.

1249
01:02:57,760 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 1: Did you know that this year?

1250
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 2: This year bad.

1251
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 1: Are the bad Boy mowers, though I don't know how

1252
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 1: bad the Bad Boy Mowers are.

1253
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 2: Those bad boys and their mowers.

1254
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 1: In the Gaspari Bowl, but we do a cheese it

1255
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 1: bowl again, thankfully. Oh good, cheese a bull came back

1256
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 1: from more so did the red Box Bowl.

1257
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 2: How is how would the fine people at Cheese It

1258
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 2: Non not come to us? I don't know, rhesus. I've

1259
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 2: heard from doctor Pepper. They offered to send me a

1260
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 2: bunch of doctor Pepper and nothing sounded less enticing, But

1261
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 2: cheez It's hit me this year.

1262
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 1: There is a Tropical Smoothie Cafe Bowl.

1263
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 2: That's the name of a business.

1264
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 1: Tropical Smoothie Cafe Frisco.

1265
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 2: Bull that feels like a SimCity business.

1266
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 1: There is also a Tony the Tiger Bull.

1267
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I would eat some Frosted Flakes Tony the.

1268
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 1: Tiger Bowl on New Year's Freaking Eve.

1269
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 2: Baby, we will highlight I will will do it. If

1270
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 2: Frosted Flakes wants to send us food and maybe give

1271
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 2: us a little bit of that cage, we will do

1272
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 2: a dead cadd serial show.

1273
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, solid Verbal at gmail dot com.

1274
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 2: Please Solid Verbal at gmail at us, soliverbal at gmail

1275
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 2: dot com, get at us. Stanley Kellogg on that note,

1276
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 2: for that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein,

1277
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 2: for myself, te Hill and Brand, thank you so much

1278
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 2: for downloading for a listening for subscribing, rating, reviewing, and

1279
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 2: just being here with us on the show. We'll catch

1280
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 2: you all in a few short days.

1281
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 1: Enjoy your lazy Susan Saturday, and stay solid, hey,