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Speaker 1: All right, brand new episode of the I Am Rappaport

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Speaker 1: Stereo podcast that's coming up. Wishing everybody a happy, healthy,

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Speaker 1: and safe, very very safe Thanksgiving Day. Weekend, we got

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Speaker 1: a special wacky, way out there episode of the Iron

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Speaker 1: Wrap Ports Stereo podcast with d Dr Drew Dr fucking Drew.

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Speaker 1: You know Dr Drew from the Love Line Show with

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel and Adam Carolla, Doctor Drew from Family Therapy,

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Speaker 1: Celebrity Rehab. I love fucking Dr Drew, So he came

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Speaker 1: right to the Gloom to and we talked about all

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Speaker 1: my bronchial issues, my social anxieties, uh, all sorts of

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Speaker 1: questions and answers. I told him I had problems. I

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Speaker 1: told him I have issues. Uh, and Dr Chew tried

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Speaker 1: to figure it out the best he can. Talked about

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Speaker 1: his career, talk about if he's actually a doctor, like

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Speaker 1: are you a doctor? You're just like a screen actor's guild. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, actitude got to all that um. And then

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Speaker 1: on this episode we also have Beyond the Shame Game

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Speaker 1: After the Shame Game with me and Dean Collins. If

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Speaker 1: you haven't ever seen the Shame Game on my Instagram,

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Speaker 1: my Facebook my Snapchat or my Twitter. Um miles, please

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Speaker 1: play an episode of the shame Game. Welcome to the

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Speaker 1: first ever edition of this same game. This is where

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Speaker 1: we take people's messages of men with private accounts who

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Speaker 1: have split up into my d m s and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna shame you. Motherfucker's it's the same What time is

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Speaker 1: it shame time? What time is it shame time? Any

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Speaker 1: wins in the house? Who? Any groups in the house?

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Speaker 1: Same time? Dean, what do we got today? Okay? So

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Speaker 1: the first one from Huey J three he's got a

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Speaker 1: wife and kids in the phone. Oh yeah, he said,

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Speaker 1: you're a piece of ship, low life N word. Lover

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Speaker 1: stopped acting like an N word. You're just a low

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Speaker 1: life piece of ships? Am I gonna if I see

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Speaker 1: you on the street, I'll punch the piss out of you. Huie,

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Speaker 1: you ain't doing jack shit? How r d else you got? Okay?

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Speaker 1: So the next one is from Nick Levitt Underscore, who

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Speaker 1: says you're a disgrace to the Jewish people when hey,

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Speaker 1: sucking N word Cox makes you money? Right money, wigger

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Speaker 1: clown Nick Levitt with your private account and your discount tattoos,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna shit okay. So the shame game was created

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Speaker 1: by me and my young shooter Dean Collins, uh friend

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Speaker 1: and recurring guests of the Iron Rapports Stereo Pockets. He's

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Speaker 1: a family member, My shooter, Dean Collins is a family member.

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Speaker 1: So it was derived. It was created because I get

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Speaker 1: all kind of vicious, vicious, wild, off the wall, wacky

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Speaker 1: shit okay from people in my d ms. People feel

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Speaker 1: free to talk. People feel so comfortable to talk greasy

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Speaker 1: saying things about Jews, saying that I'm an N word, lover,

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Speaker 1: all sorts of crazy ship. Look, if you want to

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Speaker 1: talk about me, that's fine, that's fine. You want to say, uh, Mike, uh,

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Speaker 1: I saw you on the Celebrity All Star Game. You

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Speaker 1: and say, oh, Mike, look at your nose. Why is

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Speaker 1: it so big? I have no problem with that. Oh

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Speaker 1: your movie suck. Fine. And that's when you get into

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Speaker 1: burning Jews and you get you take it across the line.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna shame you. Okay, you want that fame, but

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get that shame Okay. So just like watch

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Speaker 1: what Happens Live NBA with T and T uh the

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Speaker 1: After Game, Uh, the Talking Dead we created after the

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Speaker 1: Shame Game, okayis on this particular episode of the Shame

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Speaker 1: Game with me and Dean Collins, things got whacking. High

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Speaker 1: school principles were involved, teachers were involved, other students were involved,

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Speaker 1: parents got involved. Okay, So we made a post game.

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Speaker 1: It's after the Shame Game. See Iron Rapports Stereo podcast

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Speaker 1: then after the Shame Game Live with Me and the

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Speaker 1: All right, I'm in here with the jet lagged time zone.

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Speaker 1: I'm challenged time zone challenge. Dr Drew, Dr Drew Pinsky.

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Speaker 1: Michael cad said, let's do it right now, let's go.

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Speaker 1: I'm ready to go, man, and and you're in my home.

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Speaker 1: The first thing I was asking because you said about

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Speaker 1: your phone? Yea, I know, is there actual because I seriously,

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Speaker 1: I think I'm phone addicted. I think we all are.

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Speaker 1: what has happened to humanity. It's like saying we're car addicted.

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Speaker 1: If you we should be riding a horse. I don't

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Speaker 1: sure there's a timehen people went, yeah you should be

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Speaker 1: need No, I need that thing, but you don't need it.

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Speaker 1: I'm dependent on it. I don't know that I'm not.

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Speaker 1: Addiction means it keeps getting worse and you want to stop,

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Speaker 1: I'm not happy with it. I'm not proud of it,

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Speaker 1: are like freaking out because they're like thinking a little

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00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,680
Speaker 1: like they're hallucining, not hallucing. They just like like it's

422
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,440
Speaker 1: like what it must be like to see Harvey Weinstein

423
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,439
Speaker 1: do his thing, Like it's confusing, was like, what's going on? Right?

424
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:10,720
Speaker 1: And then they again they would just go, okay, I

425
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 1: just helped me and we were we did a great job,

426
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,119
Speaker 1: and so they were happy to and they'd immediately forget

427
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,480
Speaker 1: about all that. They would very quickly forget about all

428
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 1: of it because they their in need. They're in need,

429
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 1: they're sick, they're gonna get better. We do a good job,

430
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,919
Speaker 1: they're happy. And Celebrity Rehab okay, because Love Line was

431
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,920
Speaker 1: sort of the classic show that sort of got you

432
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,120
Speaker 1: out of just being a doctor, like people found out

433
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,160
Speaker 1: like this doctor Drew guy. But Celebrity Rehab for me

434
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 1: was number one because I knew there was people on

435
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:41,920
Speaker 1: there that I knew size more um Jeff Conway, I

436
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,679
Speaker 1: had knew. I was a fan. I mean, you know

437
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 1: great I mean great guys, right, I mean just like

438
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 1: the greatest guys with bad, bad addiction, like terrible. So

439
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 1: how does it work? Like how does a show like that?

440
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,639
Speaker 1: Because it's so serious and then it's being filmed, like

441
00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 1: are they in there being treated? So at the big

442
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 1: inning at the beginning I think the producers thought they

443
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,639
Speaker 1: were filming a reality show, and I didn't know what

444
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 1: that meant. I was just doing treatment and I just

445
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 1: and I always be tellin things always get interesting in

446
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 1: drug treatment. Just just just probably Jane cameras. But the producers

447
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 1: started going in and going, this is the very beginning.

448
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,919
Speaker 1: They go, Mary carry Jessica Sierra. Do you know what

449
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 1: she said about John? I heard this. I was like,

450
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 1: what are you doing? These are sick people, are you?

451
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 1: And it got to the point a couple of seasons

452
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,879
Speaker 1: down the line where I was like, Okay, guys, if

453
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 1: we're going to do this, no producer can get anywhere

454
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 1: near my patients under any circumstances. Under and for me,

455
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,439
Speaker 1: you fucking do not speak to me. You can do

456
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 1: not make eye contact with me. Nobody know what that

457
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 1: makes eye contact with me. You can ask I'm willing

458
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 1: to answer for a question doctor, how's the patient doing,

459
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 1: what's the aftercare plan? How much is gonna cost? What's

460
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 1: the family therapy? You asked me, one more goddamn thing,

461
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 1: I'll walk off the Essentially, they're there to stir things up. Yeah,

462
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,360
Speaker 1: they think they have to stir stuff up, and it's like, no,

463
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 1: no no, no, no no, no no no, you just roll

464
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 1: cameras everything, believed me. Things happen on a drug treatment center,

465
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 1: it's it's always high drum people a people are sick

466
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: and intense and things come up and it's just always

467
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 1: that way. And so they didn't have to stay there

468
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,400
Speaker 1: they were having eventually just let cameras roll. They finally

469
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:15,400
Speaker 1: trusted it. And when they're when they're the cameras are rolling, yeah,

470
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 1: they're and they're guys running around all over the place.

471
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 1: You know, there's cameras in every corner of everything. They

472
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 1: pick up everything, and then there are guys you know,

473
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 1: there's like five camera teams. Right, So but how do

474
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 1: you mix that? Like so like like sort of your doctor,

475
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 1: you deal with real people with real ship. But then

476
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 1: like producer are not producer. This show is coming backtally

477
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 1: like in your head, Like how do you sort of

478
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: balance that? Now? Yeah? Now, well it's different balance what

479
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,160
Speaker 1: I'm trying to do with television versus what I'm doing

480
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 1: when we're doing a show like Slippy Rehab, where to me,

481
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 1: it's about the patients and just getting it done without

482
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 1: them getting interfered with, right, and much to my amazement,

483
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 1: those patients did very well, better than average, even though

484
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 1: some horrible things happened, and we can talk about that.

485
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm devastated with the ones that happened. And

486
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,120
Speaker 1: of course it was my peer is that killed these patients.

487
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 1: No one gets that. It's I got them off everything.

488
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 1: They were doing great, Jeff Conway's tap dancing, Mike Starr

489
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: was living independently. One of my piers put them back

490
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:15,160
Speaker 1: on opiates because they say, my back hurts. Back on opiates. Dead, Piers,

491
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 1: I mean other doctors put them back on opius dead

492
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 1: three weeks later. So let's talk about the opiate because

493
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,719
Speaker 1: like you're doing a documentary now on opiates. Yeah, I'm

494
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 1: gonna work on that. Yet It's been discussed a lot.

495
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: Trump is talking about it. It's like, you know, the

496
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 1: closest thing that I could recollect it is like the

497
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 1: crack cocaine. This is way worse. Why and what are

498
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 1: opiates like? Explaining basic, hundred fifty people dead a day,

499
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 1: and fifty people in this country die a day because

500
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 1: they're addicted to Oh no, well there's there for everyone

501
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 1: that dies, is five that overdose that don't die, so

502
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 1: that yes, they're addicted to opiates, and usually it's one

503
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 1: of two things. They're giving a benzo diaze me with

504
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 1: the opiates. So I've valium like drug with the opiate,

505
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 1: which is a deadly combination given all the time and

506
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 1: by doctors or their IV drug users, and they get

507
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: exposed to fat mail. That's a that's a heavy it's

508
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 1: like a hot shot. Okay, So how are the doctors

509
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,120
Speaker 1: still doing this when they stopping? It's slowing down now

510
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 1: they did, Mike, there there was a the part that

511
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: people don't know that you want to blame the drug companies,

512
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 1: which no doubt they were duplicitous. The way this all

513
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:31,439
Speaker 1: happened was in the nineties, well meaning patient advocacy groups

514
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 1: hired attorneys and started muscling doctors to treat pain more aggressively.

515
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 1: And I'm sure the drug companies were behind the scenes

516
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,199
Speaker 1: of funding some of this stuff, I'm sure of it.

517
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 1: But it got so out of control where doctors were

518
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 1: being prosecuted as reckless negligence if they didn't treat pain adequately,

519
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: they were going to prison, they were getting fined. There's

520
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 1: a famous case in California and it freaked us out.

521
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 1: We all just went, oh my God, and they got

522
00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 1: it to the point where there was an absolute discipline

523
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: of had the following three priorities, and all doctors knew

524
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: it and practiced it. Pain is what the patient says

525
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 1: it is. Paining controls what the patient says it is,

526
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: and pain assessment is the fifth vital sign. Remember this

527
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 1: bullshit from the pain the fifth vital side as important

528
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 1: as your pulsar blood pressure. Your pulse is zero. What's

529
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 1: your pain control? Right? It's like what you pult under

530
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 1: fifth I don't care what's you're paining, right? Like, think

531
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: about how insane that that's crazy insane. And most of

532
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: us kind of opted out and started sending anybody with

533
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: pain that we couldn't easily control. There's your bronchiactusis whatever

534
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: you've got, bronchiolitis. Bronchia is nothing nasty. I could hear

535
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 1: the obstruction broncuolitis is a is a long collapse of

536
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: the airways, right because the problem, probably the immune system

537
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 1: was backed up. I don't fight it. It broke down

538
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 1: the airways and now you gotta broken down airway. Yeah

539
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: you can heal it, can hear? I need help, but

540
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 1: but I want to dog here this question for later.

541
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 1: Why did Jews perpetually, especially oscanaz Jews have a propensity

542
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: for flem. Later we get to that, I want to

543
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: know why. I don't know what it is or what

544
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,719
Speaker 1: it isn't, but I know that the Jews in the

545
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,959
Speaker 1: East Coast, particularly in my family, we have a propensity

546
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: for FLEM. I don't know why I do that. Okay,

547
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: we have lots of crappy jeans though, I want to

548
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 1: hear about. Okay, we're gonna finish with We're gonna test

549
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 1: you for that too. You know I need full testing.

550
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: I need full I got. I know that's from the neuroses.

551
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: It's from the people say, I'm not so sure that's true.

552
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: You know what, let me tell you something. I truly

553
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 1: believe it's from the neuroses and its nerves because through

554
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 1: I've had it since I'm sixteen, and when I know

555
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: it's from like, I don't know what it starts from.

556
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: When I was sixteen, I was going through a stress

557
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,360
Speaker 1: induced thing and it came and I believe that it's

558
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: from that. And I believe that stress and like and

559
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 1: and concern alleviates it and doesn't alleviate I know it.

560
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 1: There there's the for sure, there is an interaction, there's

561
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 1: an overlap. I don't think it causes it, let's put

562
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: it that way, but I can see where it can

563
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: make it worse. Let me tell you something, doctor, I've

564
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: had it for so long, and there should be groups

565
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 1: because there are. Where are they? Because like you know,

566
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 1: flamet balve support groups. I'm sure that I need you

567
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 1: need to hook me up with it doing I could

568
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: run the groups because I've tried all the goddamn medicines,

569
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: and I know that there's other people out there that

570
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: have had to take ships like you. Right on the

571
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: one on one freeway, that's a freeway to you, that's

572
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: a public bathroom. To me, that's like a place to

573
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 1: use the now. Luckily I've been in remission for fuse.

574
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 1: But I have no problem like flower pots bathrooms, like

575
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: I have a whole the whole procedure I need to do.

576
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: And it's not a joke. One one doesn't know. There's

577
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: there's tricks as a trade. You go on the side,

578
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: you pull under a tunnel, there's there's there's with friends

579
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: down there. There's all sorts of tricks. I I the

580
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: one who won the four oh five, the ten, like

581
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: I know all the plays, like any bathroom I could

582
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: tell from like a Starbucks, like the codes, I know

583
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: the whole thing. Well, but enough with that, Well we'll

584
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: get back to the oscanizes and the flem and the

585
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: bad moments, the opiates, the opiates. So so we we

586
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: punted to pain management doctors because we got everyone got

587
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: scared that they're gonna not treated atically. Sorry, okay, fine,

588
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: let the pain guys do it. And those guys were

589
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: the ones that were crazy, ridiculously agressive of the opiates.

590
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 1: I had many patients killed by those guys. Many, So

591
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: what's going to stop this? Because that's it stopped. It's better,

592
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: it's getting better. Finally, the CVS is only allowing a

593
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: week of prescribing at a time. California, most states have

594
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: an opioid monitoring system. Now doctors are finally going the

595
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: other way, even the ones that were trained the you know,

596
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: in a in a different manner. So it's it's slowing down,

597
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: it's slowing down. The problem now is we've got always

598
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: addicted people and what are we gonna do with that?

599
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: So what are you gonna do with that? I don't

600
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: have a good answer. The answer the government wants us

601
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: to do is put people on the box zone, which

602
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: is a replacement drug like methodone. Uh yeah, that's but

603
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: like it's a it's a major thousands and thousands or

604
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: millions in this country. Uh oh yeah, I think it's millions. Now,

605
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: I think it's millions. And where could people afford these drugs?

606
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: Is it seems like it's a it's a high end,

607
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: like to get a prescription, or it's on the street,

608
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: or people making me it's expensive on the street, the

609
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: insurance pace for it. A lot of times doctors are

610
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: prescribing this stuff by the ton, and when they cut

611
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: them off, they go to heroin, which is cheap. You're conscious,

612
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 1: you're a doctor, and you're also you're you're in the

613
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: public eye. Healthcare insurance not insurance. I'm so confused. Do

614
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 1: you have any I am as confused as anybody like

615
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: I don't have a good solution. I think the I

616
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: suspect the only way we're gonna solve this of some

617
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: sort of tiered system, which means like a public system

618
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: and a private system or something like they haven't written

619
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: where there's two tiers, like well, we'll get let's get

620
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,959
Speaker 1: better insurance, going for everybody, but not lock everybody into it.

621
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: Let's give everybody options of other ways of doing it, okay,

622
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: and not Canada? Canada, Oh my god, what's their situation.

623
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: They're they're locked in single payer system and it's just

624
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: if you really hear what's going on there, they accept

625
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: the level of care that would never go here, never.

626
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: People accept the level of care there that people would

627
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: not except. So what country in the world I was?

628
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: Germany had a pretty good prom they have good health care,

629
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: and again England does okay, but as a tour to

630
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: multi tiered system, you know, it's and people are really uncomfortable.

631
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: Is that fair? Is that not fair? You know? I don't.

632
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: I don't have a strong opinion. I just know that

633
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: that locking everybody and not giving people options does not

634
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: seem fair either and does not seem like it's gonna work.

635
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: What is the term this is a left turn? What

636
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: does the turn narcissist actually mean? It actually is a

637
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: description of a defensive strategy that comes from early injuries

638
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: what are called narcissistic injuries where kids aren't getting what

639
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 1: they need from their parents typically or they're getting traumatized

640
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: by them, so they aren't getting the kind of emotional

641
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: nourishment that they need, or they learn that the outside

642
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: world are other people are their emotions are a source

643
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: of distress, so they don't they either disconnect from those

644
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:06,479
Speaker 1: emotions or don't continue to develop a strong connection with

645
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: those emotions by virtue of their connection with adults, and

646
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: so they develop a layer on top. They leave the emotion,

647
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: they leave the spontaneous primary emotions behind, and they developed

648
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: sort of a pseudo self on top from which they

649
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: extract from the world what they need. And often because

650
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: they feel injured and tiny on the inside, they need

651
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: that extraction to make them feel pumped up. And so

652
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: narcissism is a sense of needing to get a lot

653
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: out of the world to buttress yourself. And it just

654
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: keeps going. You know, you keep feeling you need more

655
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: and more and more to feel okay. But really what

656
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: you are is injured, disconnected, and feelings don't matter. I

657
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: got you, I got you some feelings, and you have

658
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: to be in touch and acknowledge your feelings. Like if

659
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: it had been me who sent the magazines to Howard

660
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: and Robin and the rest of the savages jumped on it,

661
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: I would go right to fight or flight. You can

662
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: acknowledge right off the top disert my feeling. It hurt me. Yeah,

663
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: I was crushed. Okay, So so this term narcissist, this

664
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: has been thrown around a lot. It's not It's not egotism,

665
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: which is different, which is self preoccupation, which can be

666
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: part of you know, narcissum, but it doesn't. It's not

667
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: a self importance. In fact, underneath it's a deep sense

668
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: of longing and emptiness and oftentimes it's a feeling of smallness.

669
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: But you're using this kind of pseudo thing which is

670
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: all you really know is yourself because the injury was

671
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: a long time ago, got you get to interact in

672
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: the world. So what do you make of of a

673
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: diagnosis if you were just diagnosing just on everything you've

674
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: seen on TV Trump, the word narcissist, this is so

675
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: associated with him. Yeah, what just based on everything you've

676
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: seen from him on TV and and and his behavior?

677
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: What is that behavior? What you gotta remember, I I

678
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: don't think about narcissism as pejorative, right you Everyone was

679
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: to put it negative, and what does that word negative?

680
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: I don't think of it that. I think In fact,

681
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: I have great compassion for narcissists, right, And I also

682
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: think narcissists are very useful in certain situations like fighter pilot.

683
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: You want that guy to be a narciss You want

684
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: him to feel, you know, invincible and and huge and

685
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: big and you know whatever you want to know. Also

686
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: to be maybe an alcoholic too and love the thrill

687
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: because I don't have that proclivity to that, because those

688
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: people really are at their best when in extreme situations.

689
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: Got you, right? And so President United States, when I

690
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: look at most of the guys and gals that have

691
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: been in and around that office, they're all narcissists, right

692
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: to kind of have to be that to want to

693
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: be in that position. And I guess that's a reasonably

694
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: adaptive personality structure. The question that everyone has asked themselves

695
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: is someone a malignant narcissist? And a malignant narcissist is

696
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 1: somebody that really really can't empathize with other people. They

697
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 1: can't they don't really care about other people other people's

698
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: feelings based on what you see what the fund do

699
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 1: you think Trump is like? If you're just if you're

700
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 1: just diagnosing and you're not even Trump like, you're not

701
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: even diagnosed in the president. And you were just like

702
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: showing videotape of somebody's father, and they were showing that

703
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: narcissists looks hypomanic, which a lot of business guy as

704
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: are hypomanic. They lots done, they'd never sleep. There are

705
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: a lot of business guys are that way. And look

706
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,760
Speaker 1: a lot of successful people and athletes to like, you know, like, yeah,

707
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,959
Speaker 1: it's a common it's a common thing in successful people

708
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: and right, and so it looks kind of it looks

709
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 1: kind of you know, a narcissistic too. So then I'd go,

710
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: what's going on with the family? Are they okay? The

711
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: kids like him? Do they feel like they have a

712
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: good relationship with him? That's sort of the next way

713
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: you assess that. And I was thinking about this early

714
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: in the days when I was trying to understand the

715
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: whole phenomenon of Mr Trump. And again, I'm super moderate.

716
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 1: I can see both sides of everything. Right, I don't

717
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: know what's right for the world. I right personality. To me,

718
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 1: that's humristic to be able to know what another good word.

719
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 1: You're a smart guy. I mean, you got some good

720
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: fucking words. I'll come back, I'll come back. Uh, and

721
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 1: and I was thinking about it and the Trump they okay,

722
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: I wonder if you narcis And I started thinking, well,

723
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's been other guys like that. And I thought, well, yeah,

724
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: Andrew Jackson, oh yeah, total not total not And that

725
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: was kind of yeah. I had some problems with that.

726
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: I think, where is that? I went, oh, my god, Roosevelt,

727
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: Teddy Roosevelt, severe narcissist, manic as hell? And that worked out. Okay.

728
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 1: So just because somebody is one thing or another doesn't

729
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: mean they are or are not going to be a

730
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: good president, which is interesting, right, It's very interesting to me.

731
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: I'm like you think, like, oh, man, who would you

732
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 1: win with Teddy Roosevelt in an office with a red button?

733
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: But there he was, and he did pretty good. Now

734
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: is on Mount Rushmore. It doesn't have to be necessarily negative.

735
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to go badly put it that way.

736
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: It can go okay for the country, all right. But

737
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't what do I know. It's

738
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: like trying to predict that having a crystal ball or something.

739
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: It's it's uncomfortable, right, It's uncomfortable. And and for me,

740
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: I definitely see things about him and myself because like

741
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,439
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I've never given shit about

742
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: politics ever. You might say that stupid not but I've

743
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: always voted with my with my with my heart, not

744
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: with my tax I'm like, this person seems better than

745
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: this person. This motherfucker his Like I actually had a

746
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: dream about him. Wow, you met him? I've seen him

747
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: around New York. Have you ever met him? No, my

748
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: son my wife had and I've seen him around New

749
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: York to have in its places where he's been and stuff. Yeah.

750
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: But but but but but I had an actual dream like

751
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: like that I was like attacking him like a fight,

752
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like I was like I

753
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: just was hitting him and ship like and you know,

754
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: like people like you're hitting the president, You're gonna get

755
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: in so much trouble. And it wasn't like the violence

756
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: in the dream like I was making contact. That was

757
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: more like I think I stopped the dream because I

758
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: was like, I thought I was going to get in

759
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: trouble for like assaulting the president of the United States.

760
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: Um so, but I see things in him in myself

761
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: because I was like, why is it bothering me? Someonech

762
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: why is it bothering me? So much. I just see

763
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: stuff about it, you know what I mean, like stuff

764
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: about him, like in myself. But I'm not the president.

765
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: So some people are saying like, oh, you want the

766
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 1: president to be a regular person. I want the president

767
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: to be way better than me. What's the fact that

768
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: he's like you was? What really Bothers? Yeah, I know,

769
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: I shouldn't be the president saying yeah, I get it,

770
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like I shouldn't be I

771
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: shouldn't be the fucking president. The president shouldn't be um

772
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: stepping on toes, you know, and and and disrespectful and

773
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: and like that. That should be like every that's that's

774
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 1: fine to do that. There's no problem with that, you

775
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I don't, I don't have anything.

776
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: It's still but to be to be fair. I mean

777
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: when I when I think about the phenomenon historical phenomenon

778
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: that we're in, I think that's what the people that

779
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: voted him in want. They wanted a wrecking ball. They

780
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: were just so failed, so tired of the you know,

781
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: the way they I think people felt judged and put

782
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: upon and controlled and tyrannized a little bit by by

783
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: a political system, and they just want to wreck it.

784
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: And that's why the approval ratings stay for the people

785
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 1: that put him in stays where it is because they

786
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: kind of wanted that that wrecking that they want, they

787
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: want more. I think, right, I think that the whole

788
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: guy described it as a murder weapon. They wanted him

789
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,720
Speaker 1: to be a murder weapon in Washington, Like, wow, that's interesting.

790
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: Nobody that they conceptualized as him as a yeah, as

791
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,720
Speaker 1: murder weapon for a group of people that felt disenfranchised

792
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: and angry and upset, group of people that felt disenfranchise.

793
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: Give me a fucking break. I'm just saying that. No.

794
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know, it's crazy. All right,

795
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you go. So I got two more questions.

796
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 1: Marijuana legal, not legal California. It's legal. We're in California.

797
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,280
Speaker 1: Here's my deal. No opinion, because I don't make laws.

798
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: I don't, you know, if they want me advice. I again,

799
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: I can see frozen cons I I understand, Uh, Colorado

800
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: and Washington. There's been some problems medically, and you know,

801
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: in terms of young people and veterinary problems and a

802
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,720
Speaker 1: lot of stuff, a lot of consequences. But they seem

803
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: to feel like the net progress has been positive, like

804
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: they've learned from it and they're they're sorting it out, okay.

805
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: And I don't make laws. I I help people with

806
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: their medical problems within the socio historical context in which

807
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: we live. People make the laws, you know, if they

808
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: want that, fine. I will tell you that having something

809
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: illegal helps me help people that can't stop using that substance.

810
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: And I have certainly treated lots of marijuana addicts in

811
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 1: my day, but like actually addicted to it. Oh yeah,

812
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: oh it's yeah, And it's bad when they when it's

813
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: when they really get addicted, it's very hard for them

814
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: to stop. Talk to you. I've introduced you to some

815
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: of the marijuanacs. They are it's tough, man, but they're

816
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: not common. It's not it's not that common. And so

817
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: should everybody else be, you know, restricted because a small

818
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: group has a problem. And the are logic are the

819
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:32,720
Speaker 1: logic of our laws around substances are positively bizarre. LSD

820
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: is scheduled one that's that's therapeutic value, and m d

821
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: m A should be used for PTSD, but doctors can't

822
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:43,280
Speaker 1: even get near it because it's it's an evil cannot

823
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: be touched because I've only heard crazy stories. It may

824
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: have utility, is what I'm saying. And the and the

825
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:54,919
Speaker 1: fact that we we moralize chemicals a molecule as good

826
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 1: or bad is totally insane. I got totally insane. We

827
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: have chem coals and molecules that people have trouble get

828
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: out of control with, and we want to help them

829
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: with that short, fine, make it illegal and we can

830
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: help those people. But then don't just don't just throw

831
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: them in a can get them treatment for this medical problem,

832
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: you know. So I don't know. I Our laws are

833
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: very bizarre. And the fact that they have a moral

834
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 1: based to them is you know, a good drug and

835
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 1: a bad drug. Alcohol is good, Tobacco is good. M

836
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: D m A is horrible. I can't you know? It

837
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 1: has no potential to be around human beings. Like what

838
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:33,760
Speaker 1: It's bizarre. Alcohol is a cancer, carcinogen to every tissue

839
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 1: in our body. Alcohol alcohol tobacco is well known as

840
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: it's for heart disease and basketar these and carcinogenicity in

841
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: the lung, uh and mouth and head neck and whatnot

842
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: the same thing with with alcohol head neck cancer common.

843
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 1: So who who regulates this? Like would you ever think

844
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 1: about like being like the the doc what is it

845
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: the medical? I would rather people like you compacity. First

846
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: of all, there they end up being. Those are military

847
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: officers that end up with that. So they're always wearing uniforms,

848
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: right that those are military people to get that office.

849
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: But let me just say, I would rather if I

850
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 1: were gonna get involved in this, I would get involved

851
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: for reels like no, I'm saying, like on the get

852
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: voted in and really work on course. I mean there

853
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 1: are other physicians in I'm I'm we can do a

854
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: whole thing on my fascination with Washington and our founding

855
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,399
Speaker 1: fathers and how our gun was found in the great

856
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: ideas that I just fascinated by it, and so they

857
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: have ever been a part of that would be amazing,

858
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: But I don't know if the time left in my life. Yeah,

859
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: it's it seems like a real committee, all right. My

860
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 1: final question before it, let's go, You sing opera? Used

861
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: to used to you know, I'll do I'll do uh

862
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: sporting events. Now I'll do the national anthem and sporting

863
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: events as an opera singer. As a singer, Yeah, but

864
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: but do you sing it in an opera style? I

865
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: only have one style, so like, like, what do you mean,

866
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: let me let me find a video for you? Can

867
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,720
Speaker 1: I do that? Fine? All right? Did you see sixty

868
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,080
Speaker 1: minutes last night? I did not. You have to watch it.

869
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: You have to watch sixty minutes last Like, there's a

870
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: twelve year old prodigy. I believe she's from London or

871
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 1: Scotland or fucking Ireland. I don't know. You need to

872
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: watch this because number one, she's a genius. Uh, Emma,

873
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: did her name is? Emma? America's got talented, Britain's got no, no, no, no.

874
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: This this person's like she's for real, for reals. And

875
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: but as a personality, because you can see the genius inner.

876
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: But as a personality, I think you'll be fascinating fascinated

877
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: by it because you could tell right away she's truly genius.

878
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: But you you should watch it because it is a

879
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: trip is it? Musical genius? Total musical gene. Here's the

880
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 1: end of me saying for the King's just the very end,

881
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: ship man, let me see this. Holy shit, that's impressive.

882
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 1: That was that was That's intense thing at Fry's Hawker.

883
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,720
Speaker 1: Were you scared to death? First time? I was scared

884
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: crap less, yes, because it's you've been to a King's

885
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: game lately. I mean, I'm not a big hockey guy,

886
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: but I go to sporting events. But you walk out

887
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: on the ice, you're in the middle of the ice.

888
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: The guys are going around you, sixty right, hitting hot

889
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: pox the whole time, lasers, spotlight, the train horn, and

890
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: then it all stops, goes dark, and then a spotlight

891
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,280
Speaker 1: comes on you. And even if you rehearse beforehand, it doesn't.

892
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: The bells and whistles aren't tared craps, and you can

893
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: in stables, you can practically feel people breathing on you

894
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: because it's so close up. I did dodge your stadium

895
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,839
Speaker 1: a couple of times, and that was way easier because

896
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: you have your back to the stadium. You're singing to

897
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:32,240
Speaker 1: the bleachers in the outfield. That was easy, and there's

898
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 1: more of a distance. And they put the words up

899
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: on the on the just in case. They just do

900
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: it for the audience, and so I can that. You know,

901
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: one of the fears is I'm gonna forget the right Yeah,

902
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: all right, Dr Joe, listen, this is really fun, man.

903
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Thank you for inviting me. On my

904
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 1: radio show Day Graduation on the book thank You, This

905
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: isn't about me talk to this is about you. But

906
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: the one thing that about me. We're gonna get a

907
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: bronchial I need some doctors from you, you hope me.

908
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: It went like some doctors. Let me see who you're

909
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 1: saying and I'll verify. Okay, Yeah, because I feel comfortable

910
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: with the old Jews there. They make me feel like,

911
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: you know, like that's what I'm used to. Again, I

912
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: was delivered Dr grib buts he looked like a Jewish frog,

913
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: like a gigantic Jewish frog. So so I'm comfortable with that.

914
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: But I want to I want to run, you know,

915
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 1: run the paper because the coughing and and the throat

916
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: like challenging. It's challenging, man, I know because as you see,

917
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 1: everything we give you has side effects. So they don't

918
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: want to be the stuff you get for bronchiolitis. It's

919
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: kind of nasty. What is your take on holistic, Like

920
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 1: it's almost like doctor's medical doctors can't validate anything from holistic.

921
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: But you're a healthy guy. You're in l a like

922
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: you have to have when you've had to have done

923
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 1: a juice cleanse. You never did a jewice clean because

924
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: that's just the whole concept is bizarre to me. But

925
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: I listen, just Mike, Whenever somebody wants to cleanse toxins,

926
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: all I do to them is say, look, I'm a scientist.

927
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: Just put just here's a piece of paper showing me

928
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,280
Speaker 1: the chemical formula of a toxin, of which one toxin.

929
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: Forget all the time. Just just wrote there. And then

930
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: once you've written that chemical down, showing the stoichiometry of

931
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: how it's withdrawn from the physiology of the cells. And

932
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: then show me the mechanism of that of what, and

933
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: then what and when that toxin you've written down there,

934
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: tell me how it has effects in the liver or

935
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 1: wherever else you're saying it has an effect. Just write

936
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 1: that physiology down, just the basics, nothing fancy, no about chemistry.

937
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 1: Just give the structure. Of course, I don't know what

938
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:30,919
Speaker 1: they know what they're talking about. It's just the whole idea.

939
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 1: It's just it's just something that humans like. Yeah, it

940
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: just sounds like a good thing, and so people go

941
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: for it. You know, it makes no sense biologically whatsoever.

942
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 1: And all somebody has to do is just just write

943
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: down the biology for me and I'll take a look

944
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: at it. Three tips to being healthy basic tips. Basic

945
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: tips are, it's the old fat. You grandma knew it.

946
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 1: I work out thirty minutes every day, thirty You don't

947
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: have to do two hours. Do two hours resistance for

948
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 1: guys my age, some running is a good idea, right,

949
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 1: even though you gotta wash lips and knees and things.

950
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 1: But it's very important everyone knows the proper dietary issues

951
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: and limit your fats them at the animal products, watch

952
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: the dairy fats. You know. If you want to be vegetarian,

953
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: that's that's a tall order. Go ahead and talked to

954
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 1: you about that next time. It's fine. But fucking vegans

955
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: with their ship not my thing. I we have a

956
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: we have a generalized dentician and a generalized gut. We're

957
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: meant to be eating a lot of talk about that

958
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 1: next time. I'm not I'm not super schooled in it,

959
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: but I would just you know, okay. Uh And then

960
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: so actually adequate sleep. You know, I used to I

961
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: used to do a lot of work in a dementia home,

962
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 1: and uh, I noticed the first time I started walking

963
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 1: around there, all the men had pictures at the bedside

964
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: of them in their peak and their career with them

965
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: admiral in a ship standing outside the car dealership they owned,

966
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: and I thought, wow, what they're all demanded? All these

967
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: guys were super successful. So I started talking to the family.

968
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: I was like, what were they stress? Was it stress? No,

969
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 1: they love their work. Only the only common feature I

970
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 1: could find they didn't sleep. They stressed, they didn't sleep.

971
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: It could make you nuts. So I think sleep as

972
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: a particulars you age is a really important thing. So sleep,

973
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 1: actually the basic diet stuff. Treat medical problems when they occur. Right,

974
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 1: I've got high blood pressure, I've got hig cholesterol, I've

975
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: got you know, all that stuff, and I've been treated

976
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: along the way and with tiny little bits of medicine.

977
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: That's all I needed. Working great, it would I'd have

978
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 1: vascular disease now if I hadn't treated that in my forties. Right,

979
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: So anyway, So that's the basics, simple, basic, much more

980
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: important that we lead good lives. We we've lost. We've

981
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: lost really track of that. To leave a good life

982
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,760
Speaker 1: and good lives, you know, I mean having some fun,

983
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: but it mostly it's about too much fun, don't get crazy,

984
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 1: but it's mostly about other people and actively participating in

985
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: the world and doing things you like doing and creatively

986
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: leading and good. We've gotten way off track focusing on

987
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: things that aren't that important. Living forever, talked about narcissistic.

988
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: I mean, nobody's gonna live forever. Sorry, but if you

989
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: can live a good life while you're here, and by

990
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: a good life, I really means like make a difference,

991
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,240
Speaker 1: that that's the most important thing. All right, the good doctor,

992
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: Doctor Drew, thanks for joining the I Am Wrap Po

993
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: Stereo podcast. All Right, you've heard of Watch What Happens Live.

994
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: We've all seen the Post Game on T and T

995
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 1: with shack Ernie and Charles and company. Uh, and of

996
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: course you've all seen you know, After Stranger Things or

997
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: Beyond Stranger Things or uh the Talking Dead, after the

998
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 1: Talking Day. This is the first ever episode of After

999
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: the Shame Game. So if you don't follow me on

1000
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:43,240
Speaker 1: social media, you may not be aware of the shame Game. Okay,

1001
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,720
Speaker 1: the shame Game is when me Dean Colin's the Young Shooter.

1002
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: We take people who have split up into my d

1003
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 1: m s or openly criticized me in ways that we

1004
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:56,280
Speaker 1: don't think it's funny and we shame them on social media.

1005
00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: Here's two clips from the now controversial worldwide phenomenon shame Game.

1006
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to another edition of the shame game.

1007
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: My name is Michael Rappaport. So a lot of people

1008
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: like the pop shit on social media, like to slide

1009
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 1: up into the d M s and talk shot on

1010
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: Twitter and Instagram. What we like to give him that

1011
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 1: same name? Want that shame thing? Like? The first comment

1012
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: comes from who called you a clown? Oh? You called

1013
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: me a fucking clown. I see you got your coveted

1014
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,280
Speaker 1: Instagram checkmark. What's the application fee for a fucking nobody

1015
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: to get that checkmark? Your little fashionista funk boy, you're

1016
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: wearing Janet Jackson's gene from the nineteen nineties. You're a

1017
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: fucking motivational speaker. Motivating what dressing like a fucking douchebag?

1018
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: Nice arm patch? Fuck knows? Who says dude, you and

1019
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: your jew friends should have been gassed like you deserve

1020
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: to be. You go to Ottawa Glandorf High School in Ohio.

1021
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: You like to talk shit. I like to talk ship too.

1022
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: Mike drop twenty pounds. You're starting to look like shit.

1023
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: But when you start talking about burning Jews, we don't

1024
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: put your pictures on the shame Game. We call your

1025
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 1: fucking princess. That's exactly what I did. I called Principal

1026
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: Socklow of Ottawa Glandorf High School and you can expect

1027
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: the big announcement on that loud speaker. But you're getting

1028
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 1: cold at the Principle's office and you made the shaming.

1029
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: That's called a double whammy. Okay. So after that last

1030
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 1: clip of the Shame Game, there has been a major fallout,

1031
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 1: major blowback, major controversy from the Shame Game. As we said,

1032
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: we told this one kid who said he wanted the

1033
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 1: Jews to die. He no, no, no no, no, that's not

1034
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 1: what he said. He said he wanted to gas the

1035
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: Jews and your jew friends, I e me because I'm Jewish,

1036
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: all of them, all of them. So so we actually

1037
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: did call his principle. We're not fucking around with the shame.

1038
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 1: If you're gonna go on my d M s and

1039
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna slide on my page and say an N word,

1040
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: lover and a wigger this, and you're gonna burn Jews,

1041
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: we're gonna shames break, set it over and over and over,

1042
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: and we called the school and the blowback was big

1043
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 1: real Dean Collins was on the front lines. So Dean

1044
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: Colins this first episode of After the Shame Game explained

1045
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: to the people what has happened since we went live

1046
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: with the Shame Game episode three? Right, okay, So basically, um,

1047
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 1: you know, as you know, the kid said he wanted

1048
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,479
Speaker 1: to gas the Jews and and that was his really

1049
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: funny joke. Um, I found out exactly where he went

1050
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: to school, his high school, all that stuff, and I

1051
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 1: got on the phone. I called Principal cell Go, who's

1052
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:19,720
Speaker 1: actually a really nice guy. We spoke for a half

1053
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 1: hour this morning. Um, I got three missed calls from

1054
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 1: him and a voicemail six am my time, seven am

1055
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: my time, and so I returned the call. Um, he

1056
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:32,919
Speaker 1: was very aware of what was going on. Social Media

1057
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 1: is a motherfucker. Now, when you slide up into the

1058
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: d ms, that might be a motherfucker, But when you

1059
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: get put on the shame Game and it's on World Star, right,

1060
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: it's on bar stool, it's all over my page, then

1061
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: social media becomes a motherfucker. And it baffles me that

1062
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 1: these people do it with their their names. They're they're

1063
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: not anonymous. They don't create anonymous accounts. They they're private,

1064
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: and they have their name out there, and it's like, listen,

1065
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 1: that's that's written, that's on paper. You sent that out

1066
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,879
Speaker 1: and there's consequences. So and it's one thing to talks.

1067
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: It might grab you big nose right right, you put

1068
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: anything your movie saw cool, you're irrelevant. I'm irrelevant, but

1069
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: you're in my page. All that's cool. They're entitled to

1070
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 1: their entitle tripping. But when you get into racial, anti semitic,

1071
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 1: and and and then just going just going a little

1072
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: above and beyond the call of duty, you're gonna get

1073
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: put on the shame game. And and I'm gonna just

1074
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: say this, there's so many people we have lined up

1075
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 1: for the shame game. We can't even keep up. Oh no,

1076
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,280
Speaker 1: no, no no, we can't even keep up with the volume

1077
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 1: of the people that we have lined up for the

1078
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: shame game. Right, keep going, and yeah and so and

1079
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 1: just just a quick thing is the second that we

1080
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: put these people on blasting their user names, it's almost

1081
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: like a magic trick. When you say it's like it's

1082
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: like we put the techniques, don't do your techniques no, no,

1083
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: I'm just saying what it is. Once you put the

1084
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: thing up, poof their instagrams are gone. It's like we

1085
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:53,919
Speaker 1: we we did a trick for everybody. They're gone there.

1086
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,399
Speaker 1: They've deleted their accounts. They're ashamed of what they've said.

1087
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 1: They've tried to change their names. So I spoke to

1088
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: Principal cell Go. But I just want to say this, Dean.

1089
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 1: I just want to publicly acknowledge your greatness. You. You

1090
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 1: could be an FBI or like a like a like

1091
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 1: a p I p I because the way the shooter

1092
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: tracks them down. We're not going to give you our techniques.

1093
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say so don't tell. Don't tell your technique.

1094
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: I would never Okay, don't tell your technique. But I

1095
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: just want to publicly say thank you, thank you for

1096
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 1: uh for appreciating that, because I like to pride myself

1097
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 1: on my detective work. And I just want to let

1098
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: everybody know who is listening that if you decide that

1099
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: you want to pop ship and get into the d

1100
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: m s and say something horrible, I can guarantee you

1101
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: I will have your entire family's phone number in five minutes.

1102
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: And you hate Jews, You want to kill Michael Rapport.

1103
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 1: Do you want to threaten me with a baseball? We

1104
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 1: want your wife to know that you're into that. And

1105
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: I've done it and I've contacted many people. For instance,

1106
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: today I didn't even tell you this, Michael. Some guy

1107
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: said that he wanted to. Um. Some guys said that.

1108
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 1: By the way, this first ever shame game, we're doing

1109
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 1: it from Dean's car. So if it sounds a little funky,

1110
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: Miles Davis, producer short, he hates bad sounds. Sorry, we

1111
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 1: listen to shame game. We do it out in the streets,

1112
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: and we're doing after the same shame game out in

1113
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 1: those same streets where yeah, exactly. Anyway, No, that's fine. Um.

1114
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: But yeah, so I'm trying to think of what I

1115
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 1: was saying. But you're saying today something happened, all right,

1116
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 1: So today something happened. So this this guy, he's he's

1117
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: in my comments and he says, come to my hood.

1118
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,720
Speaker 1: You will get murdered. This is what he said to me. Okay,

1119
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: so guess what. Two minutes later, I found him and

1120
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: I found his wife, and the wife was appalled. They

1121
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 1: have a little baby girl, um, and she could not

1122
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: believe and she sent me a photo that she had

1123
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 1: called him. She had texted him saying, this is not funny,

1124
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 1: and he said, I'm so sorry, babe. It was a joke.

1125
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: And she is like, I'm going to talk to him tonight.

1126
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 1: This is really fucked up, and she is absolutely appalled.

1127
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 1: And so they're just little things like that where I

1128
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: will call your fiance, I will call your kids when

1129
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: you're making threats like that, where it's like you can

1130
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 1: get the feeling where it's like, no, this is this

1131
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,479
Speaker 1: makes this is Yeah, I was uncomfortable. You're talking about

1132
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 1: murdering me the file of police report. You want to

1133
00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: call me a rat? You want to call me? Really?

1134
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: You watch Departed too many times? Yeah, you watched the Yeah,

1135
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: this is a good fellow. We're not we're gonna get

1136
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 1: that rat. You're not. You're a fifteen year old little

1137
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: wife Nicholson. You're not Leonardo Cover. Where's the rat? Play

1138
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 1: a clip from The Departed? Go ahead, got this rat? Annoying? Yeah,

1139
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: that's The Departed, directed by the great Martin Scorsesey. That's

1140
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:26,839
Speaker 1: Leonardo Jack Jack Nicholson. Okay, in real life, there's not rat.

1141
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: Not doing that. No, they're not doing that. So anyway,

1142
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 1: going back to Principal cell Go and making this kid

1143
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: an example, I want to let everybody know just like

1144
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,879
Speaker 1: what the repercussions were, because a lot of people don't

1145
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 1: think that I was for real and that I called

1146
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: this principle, And um, I just want to tell you

1147
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,839
Speaker 1: that we had a nice thirty minute conversation today and

1148
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: they that school, Ottawa Glandorf High School. I want to

1149
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 1: reiterate that the school, the principle, everyone in that community,

1150
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: they're all great people. That it doesn't reflect on their community.

1151
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 1: The kids said some horrible ship and that's on him.

1152
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: So they're doing a high school assemblief with the entire school, okay,

1153
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:09,280
Speaker 1: and they're making an example out of little and talking

1154
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: about gassing Jews and how your behavior over social media

1155
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 1: and the things that you say that you will be

1156
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: held accountable for. And and I just want to give

1157
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 1: a little a little tidbit right now of while I'm

1158
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: on the phone, this is a funny little thing. While

1159
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 1: I'm on the phone with the principle, okay of this school,

1160
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: one of classmates decides to d M me while I'm

1161
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,479
Speaker 1: on the phone, and what does he say? He says, Hey,

1162
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 1: you fucking pussy. You want to you you want to

1163
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 1: write out my classmates. Class you want to write out

1164
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 1: my classmates and I and I And he said, he said,

1165
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 1: you uncultured swine. That's what he said, right. So I

1166
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 1: said to him, my man, I'm on the phone with

1167
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 1: Principal cell Go, your principle right now, right now. He's

1168
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: tried me three different times this morning, this and that. Right,

1169
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 1: and I said, you have to be stupid. You have

1170
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 1: to be very palsy to be sending me these d

1171
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 1: m s after what you saw happening, whatever you saw. Right.

1172
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 1: So his response to that, Okay, this is a football player,

1173
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 1: a little beefhead. His name is uh So says, I

1174
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 1: don't give a fuck. Um. He says, we don't play

1175
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 1: like that, Dean. He says, He goes, we don't play

1176
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 1: like that over here, Dean. And then he says this.

1177
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 1: He says, you may have put on blast, but he

1178
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: put you on gas. And so I don't, right, more

1179
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,959
Speaker 1: juice stuff? Right, you want to talk about joking about

1180
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 1: the gas again, right, So I'm on the phone with

1181
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: Principal cell Go. I got no fucking problem talking about this.

1182
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 1: So he says, is there anymore any other people. I said, well,

1183
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 1: he had about fifteen of his friends hit me up

1184
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 1: and say horrible things. It's funny. I got a guy

1185
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: talking to me right now while we're on the phone.

1186
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: He goes, give me the name, give me the name.

1187
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 1: I don't want to put you in a bad position,

1188
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 1: but give me the name. I said, all right, you

1189
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 1: know what, fuck it, I'll give you the name. Give

1190
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 1: him the name. Three minutes later, I'm on the phone

1191
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 1: with it. You know, we're on the phone, we're having

1192
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: a great catch up, and he goes, you know what,

1193
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, didn't have to get off the phone. Outside

1194
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 1: my office. The kid that was talking shit is right

1195
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 1: outside the offer within three minutes of sending me that

1196
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 1: you want to get gassed. You just got pulled from

1197
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 1: lunch time or your class, and he's outside. And after

1198
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 1: that happened, I messaged him. I said, hey, buddy, how's

1199
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 1: your meeting go? And he said good, thank you, laugh

1200
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:17,919
Speaker 1: out loud and I said good, everything cool, And he said,

1201
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: I just want to tell you I don't condone what

1202
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 1: Carter said. I don't believe anything I want right And

1203
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 1: he says, I sincerely apologize to you, Mr Collins. I

1204
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 1: really don't want anything happens that good. And I blocked him.

1205
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 1: That will teach you. And we told the principle, we

1206
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 1: don't want this kid to get in trouble. We we

1207
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 1: we we we didn't know that the the the that

1208
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 1: this was gonna go so far. We said, we don't

1209
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: want the kid to get suspended. We don't want him

1210
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 1: to get us, so we don't want to ruin his life. Listen,

1211
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 1: let's and learn for everybody's a young kid. Young kids

1212
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 1: shouldn't be talking about And I'm gonna tell you something.

1213
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 1: And I talked to the Great Dr Drew and he

1214
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 1: explains this. If you send like yo, this kind of

1215
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 1: like ship on the internet, it's forever and you're breaking laws.

1216
00:59:56,480 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 1: You think you're just talking shop. Listen, people, I'm a

1217
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 1: professional ship talker. When I'm talking about Lonzo Ball or

1218
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 1: am I elowing I'm talking to about lebron or Donald Trump?

1219
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 1: I'm a professional ship talker. You'll notice I'm not making threats. No,

1220
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 1: there's no threats. Notice when I am doing my thing,

1221
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 1: I am not making Thus it's fun say I'm a

1222
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 1: professional ship talk The m v P of Talking Track.

1223
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 1: The book is called This book has Balls Sports trans

1224
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 1: from the m v P of talking. And if you

1225
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 1: don't have title, the title that's earned, not given, and

1226
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 1: you're not given right. Absolutely, if you don't have the book,

1227
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 1: I suggest you get out there and reading. I just

1228
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 1: want to say you should go out. It's at Barnes

1229
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 1: and Noble. It's it's everywhere writing books. You could listen

1230
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 1: to me audio narrate the whole book. But I'm just saying,

1231
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 1: I'm a professional ship talking. I'm not threatening Lonzo Ball.

1232
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 1: It's all in good You're you're not You're not saying

1233
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show up the stable center and and and

1234
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you. I'm not saying any of that stuff.

1235
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 1: It's all in good funds. So when you slide up

1236
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 1: in the d m s and you're making threats and

1237
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 1: all the uncomfortable, I'm uncomfortable and I'm uncomfortable too. Yeah,

1238
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 1: and we're uncomfortable with it. Now you say, well, Mike,

1239
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 1: you could just stop the shame game. No, we're not

1240
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 1: stopping the shame game. Okay, we're gonna continue. In fact,

1241
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 1: we're just getting started. We're just listen. I'm gonna tell

1242
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 1: you right now that the shame game is going to

1243
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 1: continue to get bigger and bigger, and it might be

1244
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 1: coming to a theater near you. That's all I'm saying,

1245
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 1: or or or there's a little screen. That's all I'm

1246
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 1: saying to you. Okay, because people are into the shame

1247
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 1: game and I'm just saying I'm not gonna tip anything off.

1248
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 1: And this is Michael Rappaport, Okay, I'm not I don't

1249
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 1: just talk out my ass. And I tell you I'm

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Speaker 1: coming out with a book. I'm not saying they're not

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Speaker 1: selling it at hot dog stands. You're coming out with

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01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 1: the book and you're going out Simon and Schuster. When

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Speaker 1: I say it's the worldwide phenomenon, I am Rapports stereo podcast.

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Speaker 1: It's the worldwide phenomenon. I am rap Reports stereo podcast.

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Speaker 1: We were number two last week. We were number two

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Speaker 1: last week. We're not fucking around here. Might tell you

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01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:43,959
Speaker 1: when Yeah, we were a both part of my take.

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Speaker 1: They know what the deal is. We're coming for that

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Speaker 1: fucking crown. They listen right now, they're the champs. We're

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Speaker 1: coming for that number one. And that's not a threat,

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Speaker 1: by the way he's saying, it's coming for that crown.

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Speaker 1: It's competitive. It's those guys at the top. We're just

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Speaker 1: little guys were coming for the crown. I'm just saying

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Speaker 1: when I say that people really want that shame game,

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Speaker 1: and when I say that the shame Game might be

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Speaker 1: coming to a theater near you, it might be coming

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Speaker 1: to a theater near you. That's it. Now, What was

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Speaker 1: the what was the rest of the blowback from this

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Speaker 1: episode the shame on this first ever episode of After

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Speaker 1: the Shame Game? Right, So, and you're only gonna hear

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Speaker 1: it here first, because we haven't said what's actually happened.

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Speaker 1: There's been a lot of comments what's been going on? Right? So,

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Speaker 1: I had an elementary school kid from Ottawa Glandorf High

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Speaker 1: School say, the entire elementary school knows about this case,

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Speaker 1: and everybody knows at the high school his Carter. Carter

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Speaker 1: did not show up to school today, but his mother

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Speaker 1: did show up to school today and she had a

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Speaker 1: nice one on one This is I'm not I'm not bullshit.

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Speaker 1: We're not making this up. Okay. I spoke to the

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Speaker 1: principle No, So his mother came in and they are

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Speaker 1: going to make an example out of out of people

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01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 1: like this, and this will hopefully teach young kids a

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01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 1: lesson not to fucking pop ship and say things that

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Speaker 1: they wouldn't. You know, you know these kids, um you

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01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 1: know people, people are scouting them looking immediately at their

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01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 1: social media's and that ship stays online forever. Kids understand

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01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 1: this social media ship is no joke and we're not

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01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 1: joke joke. Sex thing is no joke if you if

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Speaker 1: you're doing it with underage people. When you ask for

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Speaker 1: sex thing, you're breaking the law. And if you be careful,

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Speaker 1: not if you just send a picture, If you ask

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Speaker 1: for for an underaged person, you're breaking the law. And

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Speaker 1: I do also like to talk about breaking the law.

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01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 1: I'd i'd like to say that if you said you

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Speaker 1: are going to gas us, you're gonna gas the Jews

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Speaker 1: to my face, that's a hate crime. That's a fucking

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Speaker 1: hate that's an actual hate crime. Okay, okay. This is

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Speaker 1: the first ever episode of After the Shaming. We're just

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Speaker 1: here to help and if need be, to bring that

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Speaker 1: shame right and same shame. And I'm sorry that shame fame,

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Speaker 1: that shame fame right. And this is the shame. This

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01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 1: is after the shame game. After the shame game. We're

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01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 1: just shame talking. It's after the shame game. Shame Game Live.

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Speaker 1: It's shame game Live. It's after the shame game, discussing

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01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 1: shame right, everything in all shamers, um and um and yeah,

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01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 1: and if you want to d m me find my

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01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 1: instagram at Dean Collins. And if there's anybody that has

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01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:14,479
Speaker 1: been saying anything horrible that you've seen, We're gonna start

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01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 1: bringing in guests. We're gonna start bringing in We want

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01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 1: to start bringing in guests, particularly vulnerable, like we want

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01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 1: to stop the fucking cyber bullying. I think you know

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Speaker 1: what I think, honestly, and I'm just telling you, Michael,

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Speaker 1: this shame game is is bigger than us. Yes, it

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01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 1: started out as like a fun thing like oh, you're

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Speaker 1: saying no people and people think that we're doing it

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Speaker 1: for likes and comments, and says I, I get enjoyed

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Speaker 1: this loaf, right, this, this loaf is relevant. Okay, well

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't know that, but but if you tell me

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Speaker 1: that it's relevant, then it's relevant. This, this loaf is relevant,

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Speaker 1: Okay saying no, it's fine, but anyway, this, this pipe,

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Speaker 1: this pipe is I get I understand what the loaf

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Speaker 1: and the pipe is I understand what you're saying. But anyway, um,

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01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 1: but yeah, just DM me and let me know if

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Speaker 1: you see you horribly racist ship or people that are

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Speaker 1: fucking with you. And we are going to start bringing

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Speaker 1: in celebrity guests. We're gonna start talking to porn stars

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01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 1: because you know what, we've had a lot a lot

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Speaker 1: of people, believe it or not, that want to be

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Speaker 1: on this show. A lot of people are trying to

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Speaker 1: get on the Shame Game, and we're just trying to

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Speaker 1: find the right person to bring in the first ever

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Speaker 1: guess for the Shame Game, right, and and and and

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Speaker 1: we are full proof a hundred percent of the time

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Speaker 1: everybody that lands on the Shame Game, their Instagrams are

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Speaker 1: gone within the hour. So that's that's that's not talking

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Speaker 1: crazy for some reason. When you get that fame that

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Speaker 1: you want, when you get the attention that you want,

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Speaker 1: presto change up. Bye bye? Right and what do you

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Speaker 1: what do you? What's your take on? Because you know,

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Speaker 1: we released the Shame Game today, a new one, and

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Speaker 1: we had a a NYPD officer. You know he wasn't

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Speaker 1: n y p D, was he? Oh yeah, we had

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Speaker 1: a cop and and and say some terrible things he does,

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Speaker 1: anti Semitic, anti semitic, and we shame that fuck we

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Speaker 1: shamed him. And then the internet, you know, the vultures,

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Speaker 1: you know, the the Internet takes it from there, and

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Speaker 1: they found out what his precinct was. Did they really,

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now. They they've already filed complaints.

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Speaker 1: Did they really? I'm telling you right now. They all

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Speaker 1: want this funk gone. And this guy has changed his

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Speaker 1: account ten different times, different user names, different handles, different names. Um,

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Speaker 1: just get off the internet. Get the you're not you're

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Speaker 1: not doing any good, my man, and you're the Internet.

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Speaker 1: Get off the Internet. You're not the dingo, you're not me,

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Speaker 1: and you don't have the loaf. You don't have the

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Speaker 1: loaf to show for. You don't not relevant. No, it's

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Speaker 1: not what I'm just saying, his loaf is not relevant. Right.

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Speaker 1: I think that's it for the first ever shaming what

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Speaker 1: you got anymore? Not just you know, D D M

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01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 1: either me or Michael, and let us know if you

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Speaker 1: see anything, because and if you're getting consistent harassing and

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Speaker 1: it's real and it's genuine, and we will be There

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Speaker 1: were the vigilantes of the Internet, and and and Uh,

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Speaker 1: we actually may um this may or may not be true,

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Speaker 1: but we might be showing up at the assemblies to

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Speaker 1: like how police officers show up and they go, hey,

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Speaker 1: this is what happened. We're gonna be talking to kids

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Speaker 1: about this. We're gonna show the gas and the Jews

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Speaker 1: were canna say, this is what happens. You wind up

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Speaker 1: on the shame game and it's a shame talk at

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Speaker 1: the assemblies. And I think we're gonna be doing a

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Speaker 1: worldwide across the country act. We're gonna do a road trip,

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Speaker 1: a tour where we hit all high schools, and uh,

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Speaker 1: I also want to just shout out Jason Selgo of Auta,

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Speaker 1: Ottawa Glandorf hide the principle for making an assembly about this,

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Speaker 1: because I don't think enough schools are doing it. Because

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Speaker 1: I don't want these kids getting in trouble. I listen,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get in the ship that I know about,

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Speaker 1: but I know that kids get in trouble for the stuff.

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Speaker 1: I have young kids. I heard he's doing community service.

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Speaker 1: Now you know it's real, and and your community service

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01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 1: would be would be the least that you're lucky. You're

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01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 1: lucky to get away with community show anyway, that's all

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Speaker 1: we got. First ever after the Shame Game, Dean Collins,

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Speaker 1: great episode, great premiere episode. And listen, what time is it?

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Speaker 1: Shame time? What time is it? It's shame time. Any

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Speaker 1: was in the house, any fulk was in the house, shametime,

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Speaker 1: shame time, shame time, shame time. Moving the parkmating. Moving

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Speaker 1: to the park makes amazing. Moving to the park