1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: You're listening to Ron and Nanian The Car Doctor, nationally 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: recognized auto expert trusted by Mechanics, Weekend wrenchers and vehicle 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: owners alike. Ron brings over forty years of hands on 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: experience and deep industry insight to help you understand your vehicle. 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: Join The Conversation Live every Saturday from two to four 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: pm Eastern by calling eight five to five five six 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: zero nine nine zero zero. That's eight five to five 8 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: five six zero ninety nine hundred, your direct line to 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: honest answers and practical advice. 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It came to me 19 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: this week that I don't think you look at it well. 20 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: I don't think you liked doing maintenance some of you, 21 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 2: most of you, a lot of you, and I guess 22 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 2: it's a hard sell. I thought about it this week. 23 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 2: I had the realization that it must be hard to 24 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: do maintenance on a car. You know, here's the scenario, right, 25 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 2: you bring your car into your trusted mechanic or maybe 26 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 2: he's the first time guy, and they're recommending some fluids 27 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 2: and filters and spark plugs maybe, and fuel system cleaning 28 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: and cooling service and fire rotation and so on, and 29 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 2: you know, all of a sudden, you're spending one thousand 30 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 2: dollars on maintenance, and you get the car back and 31 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 2: it runs exactly the same it. Maybe it runs a 32 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: little smoother, Maybe the fuel system cleaning made a difference, 33 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 2: maybe some of the fluid changes made a difference, but 34 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: it still pretty much runs the same. How do you 35 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 2: look at that? Do you see that as what did 36 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 2: I spend my money on? I don't think you see 37 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 2: the value in maintenance until three years later when you're 38 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: still driving that same car. I don't know. Just my 39 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 2: two cents, just my way of looking at it, I 40 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 2: think it's very easy to ignore. I think, for the record, 41 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 2: I bet most cars today, most cars, not all cars, 42 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 2: most cars would probably go one hundred thousand miles just 43 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 2: doing oil changes and a couple of tire rotations and boom, 44 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: you're out of the car. You're done. I don't think 45 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 2: it'll go two hundred thousand. And that's the key, right 46 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 2: if you're driving that car, and if you're planning to 47 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 2: drive that car beyond one hundred thousand miles, I think 48 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 2: you got to stick to maintenance. 49 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 3: Now. 50 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 2: I also think that doing maintenance, regardless of when you're 51 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 2: getting rid of the car, puts the odds in your 52 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 2: favor of not having a failure or fault or breakdown 53 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 2: on the road. But then, as I say that, I 54 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 2: think about the people that still roll the dice on 55 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 2: certain things. Batteries. I can't tell you how many people 56 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 2: right now I know of personally and through the business 57 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 2: that are driving around on seven eight nine year old 58 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: batteries that are rated for five. It's kind of it's 59 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: kind of the oddity it is. It's it's it's more 60 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 2: the exception than the rule, and it happens. But what's 61 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 2: what's the reliability factor? You know, an aircraft maintenance, they 62 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 2: they schedule things by hours and and distance flown, and 63 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 2: you know, operation, and they everything's on a timeline. Everything's 64 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 2: on a chart, and things get checked off and okay, 65 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 2: sure if the plane's at twenty thousand feet it has 66 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 2: some sort of a component failure. Well like that always said, 67 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 2: you can't get out and stand on the cloud to 68 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 2: adjust the carburetor and the and the prop plane. So 69 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: I'll be sure you're right before you take off. But 70 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 2: I just I wonder how you look at maintenance. You know, 71 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: do you do you like doing it? I don't think 72 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 2: anybody does. I don't think they me personally. I like 73 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 2: doing maintenance. I like tweaking things and making things run 74 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 2: a little bit better because I will certain maintenance will 75 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: make a vehicle run better. We had a twenty seventeen 76 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 2: Accura this week that had about one hundred and thirty 77 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 2: thousand miles on it, and the customer complaint was clunks 78 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 2: on left turns from a stop, mostly cold, and there 79 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 2: was a hesitation, not all the time, sometimes going straight ahead. 80 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 2: And I drove the car and Danny drove the car, 81 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 2: and we went out together and drove the car and 82 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 2: we couldn't experience it. Had the customer come by, and yeah, 83 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 2: maybe I sort of felt this the way the trans 84 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 2: down shifted, It had a little bit of a clunk 85 00:04:56,360 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 2: to it. It wasn't smooth. And this particular trans is 86 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 2: one of those ones that it's got, you know, Honda 87 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 2: DW one fluid and I've seen it. They wear out 88 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 2: the additive package. They just they lose their ability to 89 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 2: shift and operate properly, they lose their friction modifiers and 90 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 2: they just wear out and you change fluid. Now, this 91 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 2: particular trends also has the potential, according to Acura Honda, 92 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 2: that if it sits a P zero seven four to 93 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 2: one for torque converter circuit faults, it may require and 94 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: chances are it will require a torque converter. They've extended 95 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 2: the warranty to eight years and one hundred and fifty 96 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 2: thousand miles, so they're telling you that, hey, we've got 97 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 2: a problem with these and we're you know, we're trying 98 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 2: to take care of it. The other thing that occurred 99 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,559 Speaker 2: to us when we were driving the Accura this week 100 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 2: was that backing up like like like like the rear 101 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 2: end kind of jumped a little bit and had a 102 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 2: little bit of a hop to it, and you could 103 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 2: feel something not locking up but almost binding back there 104 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 2: for a moment when it was cold, and we realized 105 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 2: that this is dual pump fluid. This is a DPS 106 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 2: system where Honda calls for the rear and fluid to 107 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 2: be changed on a regular scheduled mile basis. And guess 108 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 2: how many times in one hundred and thirty thousand miles 109 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 2: this Accura had the fluid service in the rear right zero. 110 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 2: So new customer offs. So, you know, I sat down 111 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 2: with her and I explained everything. I walked her through it, 112 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 2: the ifs and the whys and the house and the 113 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 2: scenarios and yeah, go ahead, fix it, do it all. 114 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 2: And we did. And you know, it was a nice job, 115 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 2: and you know, nice customer. We put a car back together. 116 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 2: And here's a case where after the fuel system cleaning, 117 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 2: after the trans service, after the diff service in the back, 118 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 2: we kind of did make a difference in how that 119 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 2: car ran. It ran smoother, it there was a there 120 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 2: was a silkiness to it which had since gone away. 121 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 2: And I was happy to see that because it's frankly, 122 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 2: between the tires, the brakes and all the fluids and maintenance. 123 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: That was you know, four grand, and we spent a 124 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 2: lot of money, but we put the car back to 125 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 2: where it was supposed to be. And is that what 126 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 2: you're looking for? Are you looking for that that moment 127 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 2: that you get in the car and you go, wow, 128 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 2: it's great. I don't know that you can get that 129 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: every time. I think maintenance is just a necessary evil. 130 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 2: It's part of vehicle ownership. Some vehicles, because of manufacturer design, 131 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 2: will respond to fluid replacement, will respond better to fuel 132 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 2: system cleaning. But a lot of what maintenance is is 133 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 2: just that maintenance. You're changing the filter because well, hey 134 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 2: it's got this number of miles on it, it's kind 135 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: of clogged. You're doing a fuel system cleaning because we've 136 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 2: come to learn that, you know, in sixty thousand miles 137 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 2: to do a fuel system cleaning, clean the back of 138 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 2: the valves, the top of the pistons. It's a good 139 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 2: maintenance to do. It's sort of like when you turn 140 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 2: sixty and you go for your first medical procedure, which 141 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 2: I won't to say here on radio, and sometimes it's 142 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 2: the right thing to do because you know you need 143 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 2: to do it. You're at that age. Maintenance is a 144 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 2: tough sell it. I'd like to get your thoughts on it. 145 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 2: If you have If you have any and it's you know, 146 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 2: you can either give me a call here at eight 147 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 2: five five five six O nine nine zero zero, or 148 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 2: feel free drop me a line. We're on at cardoctorshow 149 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 2: dot com. I think it's become part of what the 150 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 2: automobile is. And I think if you're planning to keep 151 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 2: that car seven eight years, nine years, drive it to 152 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty two hundred thousand miles. Yeah, I 153 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 2: think you got to do it. I think maintenance is 154 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 2: something you need to be aware of. I think I 155 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 2: blew everybody's mind last week. By the way, I just 156 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 2: want to comment on this. I got a lot of 157 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 2: email from everybody saying, Ron, you're crazy. There's no way 158 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 2: cars can go five one hundred thousand miles. I don't know. 159 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 2: I think they can. I think today's car is designed 160 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 2: to go the distance. If the frame doesn't rot, if 161 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 2: the subframe the floor, if the body stays in good shape, 162 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 2: keep washing the car, do your fluids, do your maintenance. 163 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. If the car got the five hundred 164 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 2: thousand miles, could you look at the maintenance it was done, 165 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 2: if it was done properly, and say that it was 166 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 2: worth the money. I do I know what a new 167 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 2: car costs. 168 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 4: Shall we talk about my former car which went four 169 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 4: hundred thousand before the frame rotted? 170 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 2: Right? Tom had a refreshment memory. 171 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 4: Tom, it was a twenty fifteen Ford Escape. 172 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 2: Right fifteen escape. The car legitimately had three hundred and 173 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 2: it just shy a four hundred thousand miles and the 174 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 2: frame brought it out. But in all fairness to the car, 175 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 2: Tom drives through some pretty rough country, all kinds of weather. 176 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 2: He's going out to transmitter sites. He's all over the northeast, 177 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 2: up and down the seaboard, and he's always in a 178 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 2: harsh environment. But that car went four hundred thousand miles 179 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 2: with very little maintenance, and a lot of that can 180 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 2: be attributed to the fact that Tom's highway driving. Tom 181 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 2: does a lot of highway. Tom gets out on the road, 182 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 2: he stays at one temperature. He's doing seventy five eighty 183 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 2: miles an hour, zipping all over the place. And you 184 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 2: know what we should address that too. Environment and how 185 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 2: you drive will predicate how many miles you get out 186 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 2: of that vehicle. But the topic today is maintenance. Maintenance. 187 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 2: Is it worth it? I think so? Proved me wrong 188 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 2: eight five five five six oho nine nine zero zero 189 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 2: runnin Eating the Car Doctor. I'll be back right after this, 190 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 2: by the way. Add on the YouTube channel two new videos, 191 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 2: one on oil discuss at the oil selection and why 192 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 2: it's important to read the back of the bottle. You'll 193 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 2: find that on the run and any in the Car 194 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 2: Doctor YouTube channel. And I don't know that it's published hip, 195 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 2: but we've got one coming up talking about sunroofs, the 196 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 2: importance of cleaning the sunroof trains, how to do it, 197 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 2: what to look for, why sunroofs can be an expensive 198 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 2: proposition if you're not properly maintaining them. There's that maintenance 199 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 2: word again. I guess maintenance does pay. It comes up 200 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 2: a lot, and you'll have that to look forward to. 201 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 2: That's up on our YouTube channel. And if you do 202 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 2: like what you see, please like our videos. Tell your friends, 203 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 2: tell your neighbors. We appreciate it. You know, the more 204 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 2: support we get, the more we can do, the further 205 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 2: we can go and be here for you guys. So 206 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 2: it's it's important spread the word. Let's go over and 207 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 2: talk to Donna oh Oh, Mike Keia, Donna, Mikeia how 208 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 2: can I help you today? 209 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 5: Hi? 210 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 6: Thanks, you're welcome. 211 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 3: I got I got a new car into by Kia. 212 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 3: And are of the computers now, all these fancy and teachers. 213 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 3: One of them is, well, it's not like the auto 214 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 3: start stop and oh I I was using it, my 215 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 3: husband said, And I said, I said, I had looked 216 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 3: it up and it can say guess. And my husband said, yeah, 217 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,599 Speaker 3: able to kill your battery and your starter. People to 218 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 3: frequently starts and stop with the internet said, they make 219 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 3: the batteries and the starters to handle it, so it 220 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 3: could say gas. There's certain under certain driving conditions. But 221 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 3: a question is if it actually benefit or could it. 222 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 7: Be detrimental to your battery. 223 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 6: And your start. 224 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 2: Somebody's somebody's convinced that it's a benefit. I'm not Yeah, 225 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 2: all right, I'm not all right. You know if you 226 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 2: and part of the reason is, go look up the 227 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 2: replacement cost of a vehicle that has stopped start. Go 228 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 2: look up the replacement cost of the starter. Holy, Holy smolly, 229 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 2: it could be three times the price of a regular starter. 230 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:47,839 Speaker 2: That's number one. Number two, I'm not comfortable now. When 231 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 2: the car is new, everything is great, but as that 232 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 2: car ages, you know, it gets to be five six 233 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 2: years old, six seven years old. Electrical system maintenance is 234 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 2: going to be very critical, and you know, replacing that 235 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 2: battery on a regular schedule, old time frame. I don't 236 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 2: think there's a I don't think there's any cheating in 237 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 2: a start stop vehicle. I think you have to replace 238 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:10,239 Speaker 2: that regular battery, and there's always there's usually an auxiliary 239 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 2: battery that's involved. So now when you're doing a battery, 240 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 2: you're doing two batteries, So your cost goes up, your 241 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 2: cost of ownership goes up. Are we saving gasoline? Are 242 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 2: we cleaning up the air? You know, I'll tell you this, 243 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 2: I think that we could clean up the air better 244 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 2: if we were more consistent. I don't understand. I'm gonna 245 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 2: get out my soapbox for a minute. Down. I don't 246 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 2: mean to hijack the question. You know, I don't understand 247 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 2: why New Jersey's emissions program is different than New York, Pennsylvania, Maryland. 248 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 2: You know, we're all doing the plug in for clean 249 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 2: air thing, but there's different tolerance levels, there's different perspectives, 250 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 2: and forget safety, New Jersey is the most unsafe state 251 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 2: in the Union when it comes to lack of inspection procedure. 252 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 2: But I don't know that we're all trying to do 253 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 2: the same thing. And as far as I know, the 254 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 2: air from New Jersey blows into Pennsylvania and vice versa, 255 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 2: and I see other states with better inspection programs than 256 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 2: what we have. We need to be more consistent. We 257 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 2: also need to be more realistic. Some of these cars 258 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 2: going down the road with blue smoke coming out the tailpipe, 259 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 2: and some of these older trucks, you know, all of 260 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 2: that's the reason why we've still got some dirty air 261 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 2: going on. And I get it. They're going to say, well, 262 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 2: you can't clean up everybody's car because people can't afford 263 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 2: to fix it. Because they can't afford a car, how 264 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 2: would they get to work, and you know, the eels 265 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 2: of society all of a sudden, We've got all these 266 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 2: things on the back of our mind. But as far 267 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 2: as stops start and then you and I have to 268 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 2: pay for that, I don't know that this is I 269 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 2: don't know that that it's an advantage. Nobody really showed 270 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 2: me any calculations based on how many of them are 271 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 2: out there that you know it actually works, you know, 272 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 2: but it does. And my last thing is, you know, 273 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 2: and I think you'll probably agree with me. You're a woman, right, 274 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 2: You're driving along, you're out eleven twelve o'clock at night, 275 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 2: and the car shuts off, and you're maybe not in 276 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 2: the best place. Don't you kind of hope it restarts? 277 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's It always startles me when it does that, 278 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 7: and I actually not comfortable with it. So I you know, 279 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 7: I have been I listened to my husband and I 280 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 7: had been turning it off, but I was still on 281 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 7: the fence about it. Now, you don't continue to turn 282 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 7: it off. 283 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 2: You may find and I don't know that this works 284 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 2: on every car, but I've been in some stop start cars. 285 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 2: If you want to defeat the stop start, try to 286 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 2: putting the car in neutral, you know, just put your hold, 287 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 2: your foot on the brake, just nudge the shifter into neutral. 288 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 2: I bet your stop start doesn't work. I've seen that. 289 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 2: I've seen that more often than not. 290 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 7: The button fortunately that yeah, then do that so and 291 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 7: next time I'm not gonna get it. But you know, 292 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 7: they put these features on and then it's hard to 293 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 7: not get them. 294 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think. I don't think you have a choice. 295 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 2: I think you know, a lot of cars today. Stop 296 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 2: start if it's there, it's there. I don't think it's 297 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 2: a it's an option. It may change with different you know, features, 298 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 2: engine packages, transmissions and so on, but I think it's 299 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 2: something that you just have. Listen, the new Chevy Colorado's 300 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 2: got stop starts. It's holding me back from buying one. 301 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just not a fan. I just I'm 302 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 2: just not a fan. And not just the cost of 303 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 2: replacing that starter, whining if it goes bad, but just 304 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 2: the inconvenience and the annoyance. I want a good experience 305 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 2: driving a car, and I don't like something that shuts 306 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 2: off like that when it's new. It's great when it's 307 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 2: five years old. And I tend to keep a car. 308 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 2: My Suburban's twenty two years old. You know, you know 309 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 2: what's what's that factor going to be? 310 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 3: So all right, well, thank you made me, You've helped 311 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 3: me make up what you do. 312 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 2: Glad, Thank you so much, and enjoy your new car anyway, 313 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 2: all right, thanks, you're very welcome, You're bye. Bye. Yeah 314 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 2: you wonder, I don't know, not a fan of stop 315 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 2: start and then you know, how does that tie into 316 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 2: and we should talk about this? You and I you know, 317 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 2: I wonder what towing is like in other parts of 318 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 2: the country. We ran into that this week that where 319 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 2: there used to be about seven different towing operations around 320 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 2: us around the shop in North Jersey is now down 321 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 2: to two. Where have all the tow truck's gone? And why? 322 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 2: That's another conversation we have to have. I'm running ady 323 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 2: in the car, doctor. I'll be back right after. 324 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 8: This promises streets to the open road tonight. 325 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 5: Run. 326 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 2: We'll give you a wrong and right. 327 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 6: A car doctor. 328 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 2: Carr advice to ride. You've been busy. What the heck 329 00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 2: was that? 330 00:17:59,640 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 5: That? 331 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 4: A gift from our well, from the operations manager at 332 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 4: our affiliate in Watertown, New York w A t N. 333 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 4: He plays with. 334 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 2: AI. 335 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 4: There's not a human on that jingle. 336 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 2: I think we should incorporate that into some of our breaks. 337 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 4: I think we should too. I think this is why 338 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 4: that's why there'll be another one next next hour. 339 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 2: I think we should put that into the podcast. 340 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 5: Why not? 341 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 2: And then we don't have the music issues? 342 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 8: Right? 343 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 2: If you've noticed any great, Yeah. 344 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 5: I. 345 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 2: You always amazed me. Tom Ray, Let me go, let 346 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 2: me go talk to Bobby. 347 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 4: Don't thank me, Thank Ken Martin. 348 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 2: Ken Martin, I'll word of Town, New York. So thank 349 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 2: you so much. I appreciate it. I you know, I wow, 350 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 2: I'm kind of humbled, you know. Ge Whiz, I think 351 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 2: that's great, not because what it says, but I think 352 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 2: that's really kind of neat. You know, we could have 353 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 2: our own little theme song next thing that. You know, 354 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 2: we could have a television series, car Doctor Reality TV. 355 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 2: We should do that, just asn't aside, Bob Mayne, I'm coming, 356 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 2: you know, we should do that, right. You had to 357 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 2: see the shop yesterday all right, where Russell came up 358 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 2: from North Carolina. My buddy Russell came up, Bob was there, Danny, 359 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 2: Kathy me, We're all trying to get out the door 360 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 2: and people are picking up cars at the last minute, 361 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 2: and just all the It really was a cheers moment. 362 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 2: You know, when you know, Norm walks in and everybody 363 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 2: walks in, it's the conversational and cultural exchange of what's 364 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 2: going on. I dread the day when order repair shops, 365 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 2: the independent small shops are gone, because it's there's something 366 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 2: about that. There's a supercharged feeling when you're walking out 367 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 2: the door of a shop at the end of the week, 368 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 2: and everybody's picking up their cars and everything went right, 369 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 2: and it just you know, and I looked at it 370 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,719 Speaker 2: and I said, this would be a television moment. I 371 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 2: just don't know how to transport it to there. But anyway, 372 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 2: Bob and Maine, I'm back, Yes, sir, how can I 373 00:19:58,480 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 2: help you in your twelve Colorado? 374 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 6: All right? Thanks for taking a call. Yeah. Yeah, I've 375 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 6: been having for the last year or so. The service 376 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 6: TPM system light stays on in my truck, and the 377 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 6: low tire light too, of course, and key fobs don't work, 378 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 6: but I've just basically been ignoring it because, you know, 379 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 6: I figured I just always checked the tires like I've 380 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 6: always done. Anyway, the key fobs are an annoyance, but 381 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 6: they're expensive to get replaced, so well. 382 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 2: Hold hold on now. Did the key fobs stop working 383 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 2: at the same time as the TPM mislight coming on? 384 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 6: I think so. I'm not one hundred percent sure the 385 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 6: key fobs started to get weaker. I mean they both 386 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 6: test Okay, I've had to test it in the battery. 387 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 6: I replaced the batteries and both of them they were 388 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 6: getting You had to be practicing next to it to 389 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 6: get to work. And then which seemed like the battery, 390 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 6: but then I changed the battery and no change. Then 391 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 6: they just stopped. I think at the same time the 392 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 6: service TP light was on, but I'm not one hundred 393 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 6: percent sure. It's been like I say, a while. 394 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 2: Do you have do you have something? 395 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 6: I was just having some service, some routine work done 396 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 6: with my local mechanic inspection and some differential oil change, 397 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 6: and I asked him about that to check the PPM 398 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 6: systems in the tires. He rotated the tires too, and 399 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 6: he found two bad ones, so I had him replaced 400 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 6: the two bad ones. He said the other two were good, 401 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 6: but he couldn't get them with his tools. Couldn't get 402 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 6: the message to go. It would go off briefly, but 403 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 6: then it would come back on and the fathers didn't change. 404 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 6: They still don't work. So that's sort of where I 405 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 6: am at this point. 406 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 2: Any any fault codes in the system. 407 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 6: Not that I know, I don't think, so nod me. 408 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 2: So the way I would approach this is we're going 409 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 2: to use two pieces of diagnostic equipment. We're going to 410 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 2: use a tire pressure sensor reader, which is you know, 411 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 2: when you walk around the car and you you actually 412 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 2: read the signal off of each sensor, record those serial 413 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 2: numbers or identify our numbers, and then plug in with 414 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 2: a scan tool and GM they hold it in the 415 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 2: body module. We'll go into the body module and look 416 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 2: to see if the left front sensor is one two 417 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 2: three four five six. Does the scan tool recognize the 418 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 2: left front sensor as one two three four five six 419 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 2: If if not the. 420 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 6: Same as one of those relearned tools, is it M It. 421 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 2: Might be all right, it's it's got to have the 422 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 2: ability to read the registration number of the sensor. And 423 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 2: does that registration ID that's on the sensor match what 424 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 2: is programmed into the vehicle. 425 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 6: I think I don't know if that's what my mechanic 426 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 6: was using or not. 427 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 2: But well, if he if he didn't do this, he. 428 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 6: Checked his tools. He was checking it plugged into where 429 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 6: you normally to plug in right right. 430 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 2: But he's got to compare. He's got to compare the 431 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 2: data he gets there with what he gets from the 432 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 2: registration tool. We'll call we'll use your term. All right, 433 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 2: If the left front registration ID read by scan read 434 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 2: by the tool doesn't match what the scan tool says, 435 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 2: that's a problem. Then we have to put the system 436 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 2: in learn mode and relearn all the sensors. Now before 437 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 2: we go any further. All right, there's more than a 438 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 2: few bulletins out there. One of them from General Motors 439 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 2: is PI eleven oh eight eleven oh one eight A 440 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 2: if I remember right, And they talk about problems with 441 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 2: the keyfobsed limited range, reduced range, reduced operation, and they 442 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 2: talk about problems based on if you have any aftermarket 443 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 2: accessories plugged into cigarette lighters or things in proximity of 444 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 2: in the vehicle, it will affect the key fobs on 445 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 2: those vehicles. It could be related to the TPMs system. 446 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 2: And I have had a few of the early Colorado's 447 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 2: like that or that generation Colorado where we had to 448 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 2: put a body module in it. The body module loses 449 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 2: its base programming and you can't fix it. You have 450 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 2: to re place it. But yeah, that could be. But 451 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 2: but where we're going to get that is where like 452 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 2: I said, first thing I want to do is take 453 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 2: take my registration tool. Sometimes it makes the horn beep 454 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 2: as I go around and so forth. I'm gonna take 455 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 2: my registration tool, read each sensor. Do the sensor IDs 456 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 2: that I collect match what the scan tool, plugging in 457 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 2: under the dish, I'll use your term plugging in under 458 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 2: the dash Do the registration IDs match what the BCM 459 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 2: or the body computer has. That's where I get that 460 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 2: from plugging in under the dish. If those sensor values match, 461 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 2: then I'm going to compare tire pressure because it will 462 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 2: also show me tire pressure. If the sensor. If the 463 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 2: sensor in the left front tire shows me thirty six 464 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 2: psi and I measure it and it's got thirty six 465 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 2: psi and the scan tool reading shows me twenty five psi, 466 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 2: maybe there's a BCM problem that it can't interpret the 467 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 2: data or the signal correctly. Can I get Can I 468 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 2: get the Can I get the BCM to recognize all 469 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 2: four sensors and read the correct tire pressure. That's the 470 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 2: key you want to. 471 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 6: Go after there's a position of the tires. I mean, 472 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 6: like I say, that was just rotated, but the problem 473 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 6: existed before that. He said in that model means that 474 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 6: he didn't think that the that Colorado didn't identify each 475 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 6: position of the tire necessarily. 476 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 2: The scan tool. The scan tool will still look at 477 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 2: sensors one, two, three, four, if but the dashboard does 478 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,959 Speaker 2: not give you unique values telling you the left front low, 479 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 2: the right rars low, and so on. It just says problem, correct, 480 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 2: you don't have the ability to identify through the driver 481 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 2: information center of the DICKA right right. It just says 482 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 2: system system you know, has a problem in it, et cetera. 483 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 2: You've got a problem. You've got a problem either with 484 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 2: a component or programming, and this is this. These are 485 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 2: the first steps you're going to have to go through 486 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:07,479 Speaker 2: in order to resolve it. 487 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 6: That tool you're talking about, it sounds like I'm looking 488 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 6: at it in the in the book on for the 489 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 6: for the vehicle. It has a whole process to using 490 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 6: a read. It's a sensor matching process, it says, and 491 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 6: it sounds like what you're talking about. And that's where 492 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 6: I'm getting this term relearned tool. I see on online 493 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 6: you can get relearned tools relatively cheap ten fifteen dollars. 494 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 6: I'm wondering if that would be useful for me to 495 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 6: do and try. 496 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 2: Well, do you have the ability to do you have 497 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 2: the ability to do? You have do you have the 498 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 2: ability to plug into the OBD two port with a 499 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 2: scan tool and look at the sensor values that are 500 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 2: on the body module. 501 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 6: I don't personally, I don't have a scan, right, but 502 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 6: I think. 503 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 2: I would ask my mechanic to do that before we 504 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 2: start putting a third hand in the pot, all right. 505 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 2: And the other thing is for the record. When you 506 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 2: rotate the tires, you should be relearning the values, right. 507 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 6: That's where I I asked him about that. He said, 508 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 6: but he was I thought he did that, but he 509 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 6: as he as I said, he said he didn't. Didn't 510 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 6: think that model vehicle. 511 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 2: No, but it won't. It won't identify it on the 512 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 2: driver information will identify it on the display. It won't 513 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 2: identify it on the display, but it's going to identify 514 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 2: it in the processor. And that's why you need to 515 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 2: relearn it. It's and and number one number two. If 516 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 2: you relearn it every time you rotate the tires, you're 517 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 2: going to prove that the system works and functions as operational. 518 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 2: So do those things, Bob, call me back if you 519 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 2: need more. A five five five six on nine nine 520 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 2: zero zero run Naming the car Doctor. We'll return right 521 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 2: after this. Let's go to Tennessee and talk to Alex. Alex, 522 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir. 523 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 5: How can I help I'm doing well, Ron, How are 524 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 5: you doing today? 525 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 2: I'm cooking? Man? What's going on? 526 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 6: So? 527 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 5: I heard you talking about the General Mutters bulletin in 528 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 5: with the transmission issue with a torque. 529 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 2: Converter shutter right seventy two yep. 530 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 5: I have a twenty twenty one Buick Enclave avenueir Uh 531 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,919 Speaker 5: with a three point six I got the shutter started 532 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,959 Speaker 5: about seventy thousand miles. It went away after a fluid 533 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 5: change farewell, just a drain and feel, and then it 534 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,959 Speaker 5: came back again at about one hundred and twenty five 535 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 5: hundred and thirty thousand miles and the transmission. 536 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 2: Was replaced and it fixed it. 537 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,439 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, it's a new transmission now that's why. Yeah, Okay, 538 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 5: I had I had one of the aftermarket in warranty 539 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 5: companies and they they did the replacement. 540 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 2: So doesn't it doesn't it annoy you, Alex? They tell 541 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 2: you never to service anything, don't do any maintenance, don't 542 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 2: do any repair, and you have a major component fill 543 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 2: in the first hundred thousand miles. 544 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 5: It's very annoying. Consider my father's were retired by as 545 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 5: president of General Motors. Really yeah, he worked for Pontiac 546 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 5: for thirty few years. 547 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 2: Does he have access to parts? Wait, wait, wait, let's 548 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 2: does he have access to any warehouse? Does no? 549 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 5: Unfortunately not he uh you know, he was part of 550 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 5: what they call the old General Motors the right, Yeah, 551 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 5: because he he retired in two thousand and two, and 552 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 5: you know, unfortunately with the with THEE after the bankruptcy 553 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,239 Speaker 5: and so on, you know, they look at him as 554 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 5: the old the old Guard. But it was very frustrating 555 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 5: for him too, knowing, you know, just like he talked about, well, 556 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 5: but for the longest time, these components lasted half a 557 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 5: million mile, you know. 558 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, listen, you know, it's it's it's it's it's 559 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 2: it's not wrong. I remember the conversation. I was going 560 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 2: to GM training facilities in the eighties and we were 561 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 2: talking about talking about transmissions and oh yeah, and we 562 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 2: were talking about how they could take a turbo four hundred. 563 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 2: In nineteen sixty eight, the lifespan of a Turbo four 564 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 2: hundred transmission was a quarter million miles followed, and then 565 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 2: within seven years they had re engineered it down to 566 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 2: one hundred, one hundred and twenty five thousand miles. And 567 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 2: it's just, you know, it's mind boggling to me. But 568 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 2: your story with twenty three and AO seventy two, that bulletin. 569 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 2: What that's telling me is that just confirms what I've 570 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 2: been saying that fluid maintenance is still very critical and 571 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 2: still a big yeah, still a big part of the process. 572 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 2: You know what, Alex, I really love you for asking 573 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 2: this question today. You stay on the line. Tom's gonna 574 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 2: get your information, tell them what size we're gonna send. 575 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 2: Tell them both you and your dad if you like, 576 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,479 Speaker 2: we're gonna send you guys out a couple of car 577 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 2: doctor t shirts. 578 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 5: All right, So I'll tell you I was. I was 579 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 5: doing fluid changes every thirty thousand. 580 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 2: Miles and you didn't have any problems. 581 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 5: A drain and fill, drain and filled drain and phil 582 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 5: right at about seven we started to get the shutter. 583 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 5: We did a drain and Phil put some of the 584 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 5: shutters stopped a little too shutter stop in and went 585 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 5: away for a while. 586 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 2: Yep. 587 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 5: And it came back at about one hundred and twenty 588 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 5: five hundred and thirty and it would not go away 589 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 5: at all. 590 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 2: That Yeah, just they can't make transmissions. It's but fluid 591 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 2: as everything. So stay in the line. Alex. If you're likea, 592 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 2: we'll send you out a couple of T shirts. We 593 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 2: appreciate the question, sir. You'll be well and say hi 594 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 2: to your dad. Enjoy's retirement eight five five five six 595 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 2: nine nine zero zero run any of the car doctor. 596 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 2: We are back right after this. I want to close 597 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 2: here today. I want to talk about tow trucks. Topic 598 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 2: comes up from time to time, and I think it's 599 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 2: I don't know, we never really talk about it. What 600 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 2: I've noticed is there are less tow trucks around the shop. 601 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 2: You know, it used to be there used to be 602 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 2: a pile. Now it's we're down to there's two. There's 603 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 2: two toe services that are within proximity of the shop. 604 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 2: Everything else has gone triple A. Everything else has gone 605 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 2: to some kind of car. Everything else is tied into 606 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 2: an insurance program of some kind. And you know, I 607 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 2: guess if I was writing an article, maybe the topic 608 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 2: of this article would be why you need roadside service. 609 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 2: You need to be tied into a service plan for safety, 610 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 2: for convenience research. Kathy brought this up because I asked 611 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 2: her for her opinion, because she's always got a good one, 612 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 2: and she said, you know, Ron you have to explain 613 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 2: to everybody that towing is expensive. So there you are. 614 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 2: You're stuck on the side of the road, you your 615 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 2: two kids, your dog at Saturday afternoon, the groceries, the 616 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 2: ice cream is melting, and the car doesn't start and 617 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 2: you got to get towed to the local garage. A 618 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 2: lot of the TOE services, you know, if you're not 619 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 2: with Triple A or some sort of organized TOE program, 620 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 2: A lot of the TOE services require cash or venmo 621 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 2: or some sort of payment plan. It's not credit card 622 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 2: or a check, and you've got to have it. A 623 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 2: lot of them are cash. So are you are you 624 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 2: set up like that? Do you have that? And Kathy 625 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 2: said not a lot of people have two three hundred 626 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 2: dollars in their wallet at all times. You know, this 627 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 2: is America today, and I get it. I think Kathy's right. 628 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 2: I think she's spot on. So, you know, the holidays 629 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 2: are coming, maybe maybe we want to get everybody roadside, 630 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 2: have some sort of roadside service, some sort of roadside 631 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 2: assistant plan. It doesn't guarantee anybody's going to get there quick, 632 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 2: and it doesn't guarantee it's going to happen right away. 633 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 2: In terms of you know, where you got to go. 634 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 2: But somebody will get there eventually, and they should be 635 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 2: reliable in most cases. So just my two cents, just 636 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 2: an observation. So maybe you know, how are the tow 637 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 2: trucks in your neighborhood? Do you have? Any where? There 638 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 2: once was some, now there's none. Let me know. I'm 639 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 2: running ay in the car doctor, till the next time. 640 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 2: Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you