Speaker 1: Money. Well say, we are the authority and what's going
Speaker 1: on with your boy Tank? This is the Army Money
Speaker 1: podcast again. I'm take this is Valentine. We are the
Speaker 1: authorities on R and B and in the building other
Speaker 1: authorities and the truth don't don't act me. They're gonna
Speaker 1: find out today. Let's go. My brother, a fan is
Speaker 1: in the building man, and um, um, he's a he's
Speaker 1: a family member, he's a friend. So this is nothing
Speaker 1: about this will be formal. We'll try to give you
Speaker 1: some formal information. Um. We can't promise you in between
Speaker 1: all of the madness because it'll just take a turn
Speaker 1: and you just never know where it's gonna go. We
Speaker 1: want to start off right here, Come on, knees, talk
Speaker 1: about it. First of all, man's a nice quatskay alright,
Speaker 1: I do legs. I don't skip leg day. That's that's
Speaker 1: what these shorts. These shorts are to promote, never skip
Speaker 1: leg day. You want to give them a quatch? No
Speaker 1: you probably don't. You well, okay, you partationship. I think
Speaker 1: it's dope, man, because we also to tag onto that
Speaker 1: the verses like I feel like what you what you
Speaker 1: in spice do with versus it is I won't say
Speaker 1: as important as versus, but it's pretty. It's it's pretty.
Speaker 1: There's a necessity. There's a necessity especially right now because
Speaker 1: as much as we all love the music, as we're
Speaker 1: watching hilarious, there's always some funny and it's hilarious bro's
Speaker 1: and and it gives you guys give up a place
Speaker 1: to go after for commenting right right, like because people
Speaker 1: want to kind of get their ship off still online
Speaker 1: and I and it's funny because if you watch the verses,
Speaker 1: it's all praise for the most part. Right you have
Speaker 1: a couple of niggas in there. You gotta segnorance in there.
Speaker 1: But see, this is the problem of where we are
Speaker 1: as a society right now. It's like there are those
Speaker 1: of us, including myself Tony Baker, like, well will joke
Speaker 1: in the comments and other people be like, why you're
Speaker 1: disrespecting the moment while y'all it's like, first of all,
Speaker 1: we are here because we esteem these people period, Like
Speaker 1: let's just call it what it is. But we're comedians.
Speaker 1: We're not a comedian. I'll be in there saying exactly
Speaker 1: like and I know black people are comedian. YEA. Our
Speaker 1: culture as a as a whole week we say funny ship,
Speaker 1: and we knew that the shoe was gonna come flying
Speaker 1: off with Patty. We knew everyone had a pie joke,
Speaker 1: you know what everybody had looking glad it's outfit old,
Speaker 1: she got the church glitter on the sequences popping. You know,
Speaker 1: niggas is gonna say ship. We we talk about the
Speaker 1: Aunties who we love for sure, I mean for sure,
Speaker 1: And I think you and Spice give more of a
Speaker 1: safe place, a safer, safer place to you, just like
Speaker 1: you know, even though versus supposed to be fun, and
Speaker 1: sometimes it kind of gets a little serious, like you
Speaker 1: said in the comment sections of like Man, like these
Speaker 1: guys are comedians that you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: everybody got a joke in Depending on the chemistry of
Speaker 1: the of the people that's in the verses, sometimes they
Speaker 1: too cool, and you know, it gets a little born
Speaker 1: or it gets a little monotonous because they're trying to
Speaker 1: outcool each other and that's not as entertaining, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So you gotta have a little life
Speaker 1: in there, and you know, not take yourself so seriously.
Speaker 1: So we met a Spice just we we right after verses.
Speaker 1: We turn it all the way up. The fact that
Speaker 1: y'all got that type of chemistry working with each other
Speaker 1: without knowing each other before. This is the craziest thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I still have never met
Speaker 1: a person. Get the funk out of here. No, stay,
Speaker 1: we never met a person though. I'm just a fan
Speaker 1: of his comedy. I didn't even know he's a football
Speaker 1: player before because I don't really follow football at that.
Speaker 1: But it was like a professional ball Yeah, yeah, what
Speaker 1: do you played form? He might have played for like
Speaker 1: the Falcons or somebody like that, but like now, he
Speaker 1: was like alignment. Because it's crazy that when I saw him,
Speaker 1: when I saw him hitting the bag, he's like I
Speaker 1: was like this. I was like, no, he can fight.
Speaker 1: He got handed. I said, he can actually fight. That's
Speaker 1: not like he not, No, no no, he got hands. Yeah,
Speaker 1: taking this time he got here doing He's doing the
Speaker 1: whole thing. I said, work. I said, Spice album was funny,
Speaker 1: but he might suck you up like in real life,
Speaker 1: in actual life, actual life. And he got the weight
Speaker 1: and he's getting his way down, but he still got
Speaker 1: them fat man bone. Yeah you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: come across your chin so you've never met Spice out,
Speaker 1: we've never met in person. Where is he at Detroit? Wow? Okay? Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I just was already a fan. And you know
Speaker 1: how it is with anything, whether it's uh like how
Speaker 1: you and Jamie. When Jamie first discovered you, he was like,
Speaker 1: this guy has something that's similar to my thing and
Speaker 1: we need to work together. Right. You can see that
Speaker 1: somebody has your rhythm and has your your DNA. So
Speaker 1: that's when I saw him, and he was a fan
Speaker 1: of mine too. We just automatically clicked. So it was
Speaker 1: baby Face and Teddy Riley the first one. The first
Speaker 1: one because it was so many it was too many
Speaker 1: many bars in that ship. Yeah, I'm not only I
Speaker 1: screamed you food. I scream I heard Teddy Riley wanted
Speaker 1: to kick your baker. Yeah, he definitely, because Tony was
Speaker 1: commenting and roasting the funk out of and said it
Speaker 1: was like he issued a statement. He was like, man,
Speaker 1: we do this thing. I'm a legend in this game,
Speaker 1: and but you know they squashed it. They squashed it
Speaker 1: the next day. Tony is a fan, so he's like, look,
Speaker 1: I'm just being a comedian, but I don't want to
Speaker 1: hurt one of my legends. But me and Spice, Yeah whatever,
Speaker 1: y'all can get these hands. It looks you know, I
Speaker 1: know Teddy got hands too because I know his seafood um.
Speaker 1: He on that come ship too, But I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's all on good fun. We ain't tripping on nobody
Speaker 1: fight and Beady Riley. I loved that. That is one
Speaker 1: of my mentors. I just felt like that would be
Speaker 1: a great I just felt like that. I felt like
Speaker 1: it'd be a great sound bite. It wasn't. God takes here,
Speaker 1: Teddy Riley up, just memy to care and me and
Speaker 1: Jay got to do with disclaim the thoughts and muses
Speaker 1: tanks along. So yeah, man, like we get the pandemic
Speaker 1: week for people who don't know right like you said,
Speaker 1: you even just dropped the bars. Don't know you were
Speaker 1: kung fu master dog. I'm not a master Let me
Speaker 1: just look listen. In the hood, in the hood, no
Speaker 1: high go any nigger with the shoes along, he'd be
Speaker 1: kicking trees. He just walking for real. So in the
Speaker 1: hood you come from backs. I don't care if you
Speaker 1: took two lessons, like, man, did you come on, he's
Speaker 1: on the bus. Yeah, I used to wear that school
Speaker 1: no way but the buttons to school, No just to
Speaker 1: school while living in Germany. What I was the I
Speaker 1: was the Bruce Lee boy. He was over there in
Speaker 1: the whole other country that the big white cups and yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't were you walking were you walking through with
Speaker 1: the hands? And this? Are you fully committed? You fully committed?
Speaker 1: I mean I was always eight. You know, they knew
Speaker 1: me as they just like he did. That's just eight different,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? What mind you? By the time,
Speaker 1: he was already to me for like break dancing, and
Speaker 1: so they knew I was, I was saying. But when
Speaker 1: I got into my ship and I had the cuffs,
Speaker 1: I was, you know. And everybody said, but why at school?
Speaker 1: Why why not? For why you know what? His shirt
Speaker 1: off everywhere? Why not? Why not if you could do
Speaker 1: tell my wife that, hm, tell my wife that good luck?
Speaker 1: Is it becoming a thing like why are you taking
Speaker 1: your shirt? I'm gonna say not, you know what you
Speaker 1: should do and just going forward? Should the question pop
Speaker 1: up again? Why are you always taking your shirt off?
Speaker 1: Just do this? Look at all this all that's got damn,
Speaker 1: look at all this. Look at yourself it's a shirt
Speaker 1: off money. It's a shirt off money. This is tit
Speaker 1: is on display money. Huh your single, right, you goddamn right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's gonna be too trying to ship. Man, be something,
Speaker 1: has some cool partners to be single with. If it
Speaker 1: all bad, I'm not gonna I can't get ticked out
Speaker 1: of my house. Jay, let's start there. You can in California.
Speaker 1: You can't. It's different out here. Man, We're in California, California, man,
Speaker 1: that's why try to get the California. I know his wife.
Speaker 1: He's a good friend. Zina. You know what. You're married.
Speaker 1: Don't kick him out. R and B money. These views straight,
Speaker 1: same thing that anybody I was remember. I remember the time, Hey,
Speaker 1: I was getting ready to say, are shared? Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I jumped the gun with me and my good brother.
Speaker 1: He's just shared. I'm not gonna pull the CPS APC
Speaker 1: and throw throw it under the buck. We don't share
Speaker 1: these and then be living if you an't got room
Speaker 1: for me? So what is it all begin? Man? Yeah,
Speaker 1: give us, give us a big break. It's a big
Speaker 1: break for me. You should all begin in my living room.
Speaker 1: As a kid um in Germany in Germany, baby sitting
Speaker 1: my little sisters. They sleep and I'm left in the
Speaker 1: living room watching TV. I just got consumed by that ship.
Speaker 1: And that's back when they had full on campaigns on
Speaker 1: TV saying don't let your kids watch so much TV,
Speaker 1: like it was the whole thing, the idiot box and
Speaker 1: maybe coming up with all these these phrases. But I
Speaker 1: was getting charged from that ship. I was. I was
Speaker 1: looking at TV a whole another way. It didn't mean
Speaker 1: the same thing as everyone else. It wasn't mindless time
Speaker 1: for me. I was looking at I was soaking all
Speaker 1: that up. I was looking I was listening to dialogue,
Speaker 1: I was listening to I was watching characters, I was
Speaker 1: watching movement. So from that point to doing impressions and
Speaker 1: you know, being able to mimic people I saw on TV.
Speaker 1: I used to play music by ear, so that's when
Speaker 1: my ear came from. To listen to somebody piano as
Speaker 1: like a five girl. I hear, ship onto my little
Speaker 1: castio and you have to play the melodies. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that that translated into impressions. But the first big break
Speaker 1: was Deaf comedy Jam. That was the one that got
Speaker 1: me on television doing my thing. Yeah, it's by the Bug,
Speaker 1: remember that. I remember that hosted by Jamie Foxx. I
Speaker 1: did the season. It's called the All Star season. It
Speaker 1: was the last season. It was in the original Theater
Speaker 1: in New York and it was all Stars, so everybody
Speaker 1: hosted one. This is after Martin left, you know, a
Speaker 1: couple of seasons, after they had tried Joe Torre, Ricky
Speaker 1: Smile not Ricky Ricky Harris um. Remember they were rotating
Speaker 1: host I think that Delve Gibbons maybe, and that last
Speaker 1: season they said let's bring everybody back, so Steve Harvey,
Speaker 1: Chris Rod, Dave Chappelle, everybody was on their last Tiefer
Speaker 1: even hosted the episode and the episode that Jamie hosted,
Speaker 1: I was on it. So that was my crazy. That
Speaker 1: was my introduction. Yeah, now that that's super dope, man.
Speaker 1: So from from there though, when you when you get
Speaker 1: to a place like the legendary death comedy jam right, yeah,
Speaker 1: scared shitless, Like what like what are the thoughts though
Speaker 1: before you going? Because people don't understand comedy in that
Speaker 1: in that aspect, right, and you were doing you weren't
Speaker 1: doing traditional comedy like he was dancing and ship and
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying it was mixed in. I've
Speaker 1: always been a nonconformist. I never did what anyone else did.
Speaker 1: Like when people was getting the hood, was getting tattoos
Speaker 1: and earrings and smoking blunts and doing all that. Ship.
Speaker 1: I just never wanted to do what everyone else did.
Speaker 1: It made me different. For a while. I was the outcast.
Speaker 1: I didn't get invited to every house party or whatever.
Speaker 1: Just said, you had on the karate. What do you that?
Speaker 1: You know? Whatever? Not every day. I mean when you
Speaker 1: left Germany, you left, you left karate outfit in Germany. Uh,
Speaker 1: you wanted an America too? No, I didn't do that.
Speaker 1: I got back to the US. I was in Favane,
Speaker 1: North Carolina. Oh black school. Oh yeah, I mean it
Speaker 1: was niggas in Germany too. But the volume, yea, they
Speaker 1: would have jumped you just for having the outfit. Well
Speaker 1: let's just jump the karate. See what he got. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's see what lee Because they all had guns. That's
Speaker 1: the other thing. Everybody had guns. When we see a
Speaker 1: nigga with that on, it's kind of like, can I
Speaker 1: beat him? Yes, it's the dog the black community, it's
Speaker 1: the endless ship. We like danger. Just something about us.
Speaker 1: We like we like excitement. Is that we like danger?
Speaker 1: Or now we like it? We like it? You know
Speaker 1: some wild niggas. I know some wild niggas. We know
Speaker 1: some wild But is it is it bigger than us
Speaker 1: liking it? Is it more so of it? The aggression
Speaker 1: and the thirst for that thing? Is it innate in
Speaker 1: us as a demographic? Are we from from a soldier standpoint?
Speaker 1: From a tribal standpoint? Are we? Is that more naturally
Speaker 1: our element? Like? Think about it, Like when something's going down,
Speaker 1: we run to it. We're like, what's happening, especially when
Speaker 1: we're in that element. Let's do when we're in it.
Speaker 1: I had a conversation with somebody where I was telling
Speaker 1: I was like, I was maybe maybe eleven twelve, and
Speaker 1: we would hear gunshots. We would be trying to find
Speaker 1: out word so we could go back and have all that. Man,
Speaker 1: I said, Man, it was crazy, like dumbash in the
Speaker 1: world as a grown man, and that I think of now, right,
Speaker 1: But when I'm in that element, I'm eleven twelve years
Speaker 1: old and that's just what we were. Damn their baby kids.
Speaker 1: Pretty much we gravitated towards it the most ridiculous. It ever,
Speaker 1: like I've been more scared from lesser things than that thing.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Like if I feel like
Speaker 1: somebody about to catch your ass woman, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't want to do this today, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I get nervous in that moment. But I've
Speaker 1: had to do pull a shotgun on me. And I
Speaker 1: just looked at this. I like, if you're gonna do it,
Speaker 1: you're gonna do it right. And I wasn't scared. So
Speaker 1: I don't know what that thing is. I guess the
Speaker 1: more heightened the the circumstance, it is innate for us
Speaker 1: to to rise to the occasion. So and then the
Speaker 1: element that, like you said that we are raised in
Speaker 1: a lot of it. It just is what it is.
Speaker 1: Like you look out the windows, see who's doing it.
Speaker 1: You get back to watching cartoons. That's it. It ain't
Speaker 1: we gotta move, you know what I'm saying. Just don't
Speaker 1: go up, Just don't go through. It's wild up there
Speaker 1: right now, you know what I'm saying. Um, So you're
Speaker 1: scared a lot of So you're scared shitless at and
Speaker 1: you're done stand up. So you do you understand the
Speaker 1: but imagine but see you've done stand up in a
Speaker 1: different way, Like you're you're you're already successful in one
Speaker 1: thing and you're not trying out another skill set. Right,
Speaker 1: Imagine stand up is your only thing. You're fresh out
Speaker 1: of school and you're now in a in a theater
Speaker 1: where there's no like, no one's walking around with security guards.
Speaker 1: Everyone's just kind of floating around. But it's every legend
Speaker 1: that you've ever fucking admired, right, chilling on the second
Speaker 1: level in the balcony, chilling behind the control booth on
Speaker 1: the first floor, chilling backstage by the makeup artist. There's
Speaker 1: Jay Anthony Brown, There's Jamie Fox, There's Cedric the entertainer.
Speaker 1: There's Staying Laton, There's Russell Simmons. There's all these people
Speaker 1: that can change your life, nigga. And I'm just like
Speaker 1: anybody at that point, had you already kind of did
Speaker 1: your rounds a little bit because how are how are
Speaker 1: guys getting on death comedy? Bob Sumner, Bob Summer is
Speaker 1: the guy I said that in every every interview. Bob
Speaker 1: Summer is the talent scout. Who I mean, he was
Speaker 1: more than a talent scout. He was like the glue.
Speaker 1: He should have been a producer. I don't know if
Speaker 1: he was or not, but he was Russell and stands
Speaker 1: right handed. And he flew to every club, every club
Speaker 1: that wasn't white, and they just trusted his word. If
Speaker 1: he said you, he brought you, Bill Bellamy, Chris Tucker Burned,
Speaker 1: he brought everyone to the table, like you can't fund
Speaker 1: on his track record of going to find that talent.
Speaker 1: And of course people had, you know, their mixed reviews
Speaker 1: about him as a personality back then. But I understand it.
Speaker 1: You're the gatekeeper to the biggest stand up comedy show
Speaker 1: in the game. You're gonna be a little sauce that stuff.
Speaker 1: It's all the time when whenever you a gatekeeper of anything,
Speaker 1: the nigger that lets you in the club has that ship.
Speaker 1: He got it on him and should a little. We
Speaker 1: just want to have a good time, like why you,
Speaker 1: why are you? You know what I'm saying, And don't
Speaker 1: touch me. Don't your mind too, like just don't touch me,
Speaker 1: like we got all the conversation, but the niggers always
Speaker 1: want to do this. Yeah, can everybody just get back
Speaker 1: a little bit because it's getting a little You're not
Speaker 1: the fire Marshal and when I get in, it's twelve people.
Speaker 1: Because you want to make a lot of crazy outside
Speaker 1: brolet come on stop. But that gatekeeper dog, it's that's
Speaker 1: a different type of responsibility. It's a different type. So
Speaker 1: I get it. I get it. And he was getting
Speaker 1: you know, people trying to bribe him. And when he
Speaker 1: comes to city, they got hose for him. It's all
Speaker 1: kind of ship man that he has to this ald
Speaker 1: kind of ship that he has to manage. But he's
Speaker 1: the guy. He's the guy that got everybody on that
Speaker 1: ship on that joint. I mean, I'm sure there's some
Speaker 1: cases that maybe they already knew somebody. You're walking into
Speaker 1: a building. Yeah, nineties, just the golden era. This is
Speaker 1: all of those things. All you see def jam artists,
Speaker 1: you see Freddy Fox and you see fat Freddie just
Speaker 1: chilling like it's a different it's a different time, and
Speaker 1: it's it's the moment can change your life. So I'm
Speaker 1: scared shitless and I'm you know, I go the night
Speaker 1: before to watch some of the other tapings, and then
Speaker 1: that night in my room, I didn't sleep. I'm in
Speaker 1: front of the window overlooking New York City with a
Speaker 1: fucking uh I don't know what the toothbrush or something
Speaker 1: in my hand going over my set. I'm like Bernie mcinnum,
Speaker 1: leave out the car. Then I'm doing my Bernie mac
Speaker 1: ship ship. Don't do cartwheel, Oh I'm gonna do that.
Speaker 1: I hate these names with a good times dance, the
Speaker 1: good times po nigger I was. I was going over
Speaker 1: the place, make sure the plays was there. But and
Speaker 1: and this was my first lesson in don't um be flexible,
Speaker 1: don't come out with a plan. And when the plan
Speaker 1: goes awrye you don't know what to do because like
Speaker 1: most young comedians, I'm trying to rely on music. My
Speaker 1: big opener has to be to this song, Kick Kapre,
Speaker 1: can you play this song? Come out? He plays the
Speaker 1: wrong goddamn song. So I'm on live television saying, kid,
Speaker 1: can you play the other song I told you to play?
Speaker 1: And we're waiting a whole seven seconds and this is like,
Speaker 1: it's also a new kid telling Kick, So it looks
Speaker 1: like you don't It don't look like him at all.
Speaker 1: But but in in retrospect, it was me. It don't
Speaker 1: matter what this nigga play, I'm supposed to get out
Speaker 1: there and get into it right, but I picked it up,
Speaker 1: you know, the I found my groove and they was like,
Speaker 1: oh he's creative, he's oh the good times playing. So
Speaker 1: I was able to recover, but it was like never again,
Speaker 1: now I'm coming out all right, Oh that ain't work.
Speaker 1: Like I say, oh I did that one time. Where
Speaker 1: was you at? I was probably the worst place to
Speaker 1: do that. I was in uh Inglewood at the Savoy
Speaker 1: Chris Spencer's thing. Yeah yeah, yeah, and you didn't You've
Speaker 1: already sold out the Savoy music right, So plenty of
Speaker 1: times like like like like people out on the street,
Speaker 1: floods on the street, right, But that's but that's but
Speaker 1: that was also the problem for me in that world. No,
Speaker 1: the problem for me in that venue is as soon
Speaker 1: as I walked on stage, it was like it was
Speaker 1: like when you're gonna sing ship that. I was like,
Speaker 1: I was like this hold on two mortels indeed saying
Speaker 1: something they take off your shirt, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I hate black people. I don't want to perform with people.
Speaker 1: They won't let me be great. Just don't care what
Speaker 1: the box hold on you the backflip guy. So the
Speaker 1: intro was a little off. I was like, man, I
Speaker 1: don't like the intro. I don't like your response. We're
Speaker 1: gonna do this again. I'm gonna intro myself and I
Speaker 1: tried to do to reintroduce myself, and I came saying
Speaker 1: it was like alright, okay, al right. And my first
Speaker 1: joke was aggressive and was one girls in the front like,
Speaker 1: come on, tank, that don't do that. I like, right,
Speaker 1: she's talking to you, she's talking to me, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And so, yeah, I don't want to
Speaker 1: do too much negative crowd work in Inglewood. I was like,
Speaker 1: cause I don't know, get to your car. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I gotta get to my car. I don't want to
Speaker 1: start getting into the league. And you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: the bad outfit. I don't want to start doing doing
Speaker 1: comedy for free. I can't afford security, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I'm just out of here. So so
Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't bomb. I just didn't do that.
Speaker 1: Good listen, you know what I've been there. This is
Speaker 1: when I knew he loved comedy though, because me and
Speaker 1: him talk, right, we talked after We do that with
Speaker 1: everything with music, whatever we own, movie ship and acting, whatever.
Speaker 1: And I don't go to all the comedy stuff, right
Speaker 1: because he sometimes I won't even know he just him me.
Speaker 1: I just want to I just went up and such
Speaker 1: and such. I'm like, not even heard that city before?
Speaker 1: How did you get there? Right? But I knew he
Speaker 1: was going up with as a boy, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I gotta talk to him after this one, right because
Speaker 1: I want to see you know what the vibe was
Speaker 1: for him? And I could tell in his voice he
Speaker 1: was like, fuck, ship didn't go the way I wanted
Speaker 1: it to go. And I said, so what you gonna do?
Speaker 1: I'm going back somewhere else tomorrow. He loved it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love it because someone who did like because you know,
Speaker 1: I looked at it like in his position of you've
Speaker 1: established yourself in his in his music state, I mean
Speaker 1: in music space. And like you said, as soon as
Speaker 1: they introduce your name at this point, because you gott
Speaker 1: hit records and people are fans of you, they're screaming
Speaker 1: because they came to see you. Now you're going to
Speaker 1: do something where they probably came to see somebody else
Speaker 1: and you're just trying to learn. But then they still
Speaker 1: have the you are such and such to us in
Speaker 1: certain in certain places. So when he was just like,
Speaker 1: oh no, no, I'm going back up, it's an ego
Speaker 1: check for sure. Yeah. Yeah, I haven't had that happened
Speaker 1: to me since for a Valley State homecoming in nine
Speaker 1: in two thousand about your your first freaking yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the last time that happened to me. And I
Speaker 1: was standing up there like this, I really am started
Speaker 1: at the beginning, I'm really, I'm really a baby, and
Speaker 1: I said, this is awesome. Let's see, He's the great
Speaker 1: thing about that is I don't know how great it is.
Speaker 1: It just depends on how you built as a comedian.
Speaker 1: You're going to have those shows. Comedy is not like
Speaker 1: I mean, even musicians have this too, but comedy is
Speaker 1: just you're gonna face whatever they're feeling that day. And
Speaker 1: I've had hundreds of those kind of shows and the
Speaker 1: only thing you could do it leaves you with that
Speaker 1: blood in your mouth if you really about it, you
Speaker 1: said the next crowd next stage, I hit, yeah, I
Speaker 1: have to get it back. Yeah yeah. You in comedy,
Speaker 1: you only feel as esteemed as that last show you did.
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be either low or very high. Is
Speaker 1: this something that would be considered to be a hit
Speaker 1: record in comedy, right, Like that's something that because you
Speaker 1: because that's the other thing you guys have to continue
Speaker 1: to switch up, it would probably haven it would have
Speaker 1: to be no, no, they don't. That's what I'm saying. Well,
Speaker 1: what was that was that? This is that like, here's
Speaker 1: what's crazy like and I want and I want to
Speaker 1: get back to let you answer that question. You know,
Speaker 1: being on the circuit for you know, almost two years now,
Speaker 1: a short time that I've been on it is like
Speaker 1: listen to the guys talk about how the bits that
Speaker 1: they're doing they've been doing for like five seven, eight years,
Speaker 1: And that was strange to me because we do a
Speaker 1: new song every day and so I'm like, so you
Speaker 1: got you're not you're not You're not writing nothing the
Speaker 1: night before and now I've been trying to perfect this
Speaker 1: for five years that same fifteen minutes, let's see, that
Speaker 1: was strange to me. Like, I'm gonna let you, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna let you elaborate all of it because how I
Speaker 1: approach comedy is how I approach music. I'm thinking of
Speaker 1: it in terms of a project. So I'm I'm bill
Speaker 1: material to build into a project to record it, get
Speaker 1: it to the people, and then get to the next
Speaker 1: artistic piece. And I'm looking to do that in a
Speaker 1: very short time, versus listening to other comedians who've been
Speaker 1: on a certain way long than me talk about how
Speaker 1: they've been working on the same bits for five, six,
Speaker 1: seven years, and I don't know what's normal. So I'm
Speaker 1: just kind of in the space where I'm just creating
Speaker 1: my own normal or whatever works for me, Like, how
Speaker 1: do you speak to that in terms of how you
Speaker 1: build your content? And then going back to what is
Speaker 1: a hit record in comedy? So similar to you, because
Speaker 1: I come from music first and dance. We're always looking
Speaker 1: to create a new movie move So when I started,
Speaker 1: I was you. I would go to my open mic spot.
Speaker 1: And this was in Charlotte, So open mic ain't like
Speaker 1: in l A. It's one club at this time. It's
Speaker 1: the hottest night in the town. It's Charlotte, so all
Speaker 1: the hornets are there, all you know, pre panthers, it's
Speaker 1: littlets dressed up. This is nine four, ninety five, ninety six,
Speaker 1: ninety seven, right, it's the night like Anthony Mason be
Speaker 1: up in that joint, like just different stars and then
Speaker 1: all the stars from death gam is coming through there.
Speaker 1: So that's the open mic you get to go on
Speaker 1: before earthquake, more centric or you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And there was no look at my notes while I'm
Speaker 1: doing No, No, you have to perform your ship, so
Speaker 1: I would do. I was conscious of the fact that
Speaker 1: I'm always back on this same stage as often as
Speaker 1: I can be. I want to have a new five
Speaker 1: to seven every time. That was my process, always having
Speaker 1: new ship every notthing. You pull out something you know
Speaker 1: your go to ship. But you I feel like when
Speaker 1: you've got people that's doing the same joke for five
Speaker 1: to eight years, that's to me, that's lazy. Because I
Speaker 1: came back to stand up five years ago and the
Speaker 1: standard special that I'm about to drop is the third
Speaker 1: hour in that five years, right, I was I'm refining,
Speaker 1: I'm recycling, you know, just make it fine tuning. Um.
Speaker 1: And again I'm not saying I'm the best comedian. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying what works for me. What I'm saying. UM,
Speaker 1: But no, I understand what you're saying. Like, I think
Speaker 1: you do have to dig and if you have something
Speaker 1: that's that you know it was gold, you you should
Speaker 1: work on it. I don't think it takes five years,
Speaker 1: but that's me. I don't think it does either. But
Speaker 1: we're also come from a space where this is what
Speaker 1: I also be well, not even constantly being creative. The
Speaker 1: comfort level of being creative in front of people mhm
Speaker 1: is different for us coming from being performers before they
Speaker 1: were comedians. So I'm okay with being creative on stage,
Speaker 1: with writing something in my car or watching two guys
Speaker 1: go before me and said, oh, I need to grab
Speaker 1: some of that right there, and then going on stage
Speaker 1: and just getting right to it because because I'm not
Speaker 1: shaken by the proud the moment, I'm not. I'm not
Speaker 1: shaken by that and growing in the space, I'm not shaken.
Speaker 1: If they don't laugh at that one, unless you let's well,
Speaker 1: my bad LEO is a different cold blood, no unity.
Speaker 1: And I went up there. I went up there with
Speaker 1: the worst outfit to go up there in. It was
Speaker 1: like a floral pajamas, that kind of thing, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It wasn't at the time, and I
Speaker 1: can't when was that. But first of all, first of all, okay,
Speaker 1: it was. It was a nice albums. Second of all,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be able to all. Here's here's what happened though.
Speaker 1: After I finished going and saying, I cannot think of
Speaker 1: this guy's name a comedian, he's super dope. Uh. He
Speaker 1: came on after me and his first seven minutes or
Speaker 1: about me and my outfit, and I was sitting there.
Speaker 1: So you didn't leave either, No, I stayed to endure.
Speaker 1: I had to take it, and I laughed. His first
Speaker 1: seven minutes were amazing about you, about me, he was like,
Speaker 1: but he remember a little. He was like, He's like,
Speaker 1: it's like Christmas is gonna call me down here to
Speaker 1: to to to to do comedy in INGLESA. I'm not
Speaker 1: coming all the way down. There's no way I'm coming down.
Speaker 1: The Queenland needs you said, you know what, I'll come
Speaker 1: down Inglewood, but I need a few things. I got
Speaker 1: a few. This is don't way I come. Don't only
Speaker 1: way I come down to Inglewood is if you get
Speaker 1: Tank on stage and the two pieces of Jama said
Speaker 1: doing coming like Nigga for seven minutes. I was like,
Speaker 1: the giggles, it's expensive, don't the Christian Loubaton baby faces
Speaker 1: behind me. He said that took courage. Wait baby Face
Speaker 1: was there. You didn't tell me that. Why was baby Face?
Speaker 1: It was something it was somebody's birthday or something that
Speaker 1: he knew. So he was there. A few other people
Speaker 1: were there and they were like, they're like, okay you wow.
Speaker 1: Breathe was there. She went up, She went up and
Speaker 1: did comment, She did a set herself, was fire watching her.
Speaker 1: She killed it. But I came back and said she
Speaker 1: was like, tap your knee, give me a knee. That's
Speaker 1: like take your time in jerky. And that's what low
Speaker 1: of of comedy, because whatever happens on that stage, you
Speaker 1: have to use it. Yeah, if you're the host, if
Speaker 1: you're next, all right, I've been. I've been to seven
Speaker 1: minute nigger. Well I had to sit back and just
Speaker 1: eat that and niggas coming on after me and just
Speaker 1: roasting my bomb. And then I've been you know, like
Speaker 1: you ain't had to do the thing like that. I
Speaker 1: watched who was that? What's my guy? Actually? Larry Donna
Speaker 1: Rowlins that problem. So I watched Donna, so hist him.
Speaker 1: I bomb the guy that comes after me, No, non
Speaker 1: tell that the guy that comes after me. I didn't bomb.
Speaker 1: I just didn't do well. Bomb bro your mom. I
Speaker 1: promised it wasn't a bomb because the guy after me bombed.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure Christ mean, no, he didn't take your problem.
Speaker 1: The guy after me bombed like it was bad. This
Speaker 1: is the same name. Okay, guy after me, the guy
Speaker 1: after him as the guy who came and gave me. Wait,
Speaker 1: I said, the whole night, what you mean, it's what
Speaker 1: it was? What's what it was? When you when you're
Speaker 1: going home and you're get in your car right after
Speaker 1: the bomb, you got too much time to think about
Speaker 1: the bomb and so so and so and so Danielle
Speaker 1: had to go after I cannot think of it now.
Speaker 1: He's a monster. How you go with this guy? And
Speaker 1: Danielle kind of like bombed And I was like, but
Speaker 1: he didn't she been that on here? Now when he
Speaker 1: sees he was drinking, he had been drinking, he don't know.
Speaker 1: But then he came to me after the after the
Speaker 1: show and was like, yeah, that's how this should go. Sometimes.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, you gotta stay. I
Speaker 1: like what you're doing too. I see what you're doing.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You gotta stay on this ship, nigga.
Speaker 1: And then you gotta the nigga was just giving me
Speaker 1: like fifteen minutes full of bars. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you need to and if you need my help, nigga,
Speaker 1: you can get me. Nigga. I know what I know.
Speaker 1: The ship you need, nig you you got some ship.
Speaker 1: But I know she like and I was just taking
Speaker 1: sessions and Lessen's from the niggers. That's why I stayed
Speaker 1: so I could get the information. I wouldn't got be
Speaker 1: on the four or five, right, you know you shot
Speaker 1: two times in the air as I was pulling off,
Speaker 1: y'all real quick, just real quick the club, real quick,
Speaker 1: like you know, take you at the club man. But
Speaker 1: seeing Danielle, but seeing him in a space where and
Speaker 1: let me not say he kind of bombs. He was
Speaker 1: literally just up there doing him and didn't give a fuck,
Speaker 1: right like, he didn't give a fuck, Like he ran
Speaker 1: one joke for like eight minutes. I've definitely sing just
Speaker 1: beneath Me night. He just didn't. And I just that's
Speaker 1: that's kind of what he was on. So to get
Speaker 1: bars from him like that, and then I can't when
Speaker 1: I remember my guy and tell you who he was,
Speaker 1: to get bars from him, and and even breeze. He
Speaker 1: was supportive. She's like this, she's gonna be gonna be
Speaker 1: all right, don't be all right what you're doing, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like that was the first moment
Speaker 1: of you know, kind of tasting that defeat and completely
Speaker 1: understanding this is gonna be This is gonna be a
Speaker 1: long row. This's gonna be a long process to getting
Speaker 1: to the point to where not even you're just welcome,
Speaker 1: more than welcome space, but that you're respected in the space,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And so I said, well, ship,
Speaker 1: let's get it. Yeah, let's work. It's all work what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So ain't There's another question I have? How
Speaker 1: does it feel to be like the resident light skin
Speaker 1: sub in the movies? How is it that is like
Speaker 1: the quan like like how like when what have you done?
Speaker 1: What have you done to become? You know what it is.
Speaker 1: I'm not a threat to anybody. Okay, so they know
Speaker 1: that I could play the funny the you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, because I'm not. I'm not that guy that's
Speaker 1: like at the club trying to be the light skin
Speaker 1: hard nigger. You know what I'm saying. Um, I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm not ever had corn rolls. No, It's always funny
Speaker 1: to see the extra had dreads, but dread is difficult
Speaker 1: with the corn rolls. It's like I've never been Tyler
Speaker 1: Ferry corn rolls man. I hope you never had a Doults.
Speaker 1: I've never had the latest front rolls. More. That's your
Speaker 1: Morrow Moore package with the Mesh hero. You asked me
Speaker 1: something about what islam? Oh yeah, ship we jumped yeah, um,
Speaker 1: in in stand up or comedy in general general, think like,
Speaker 1: what's equivalent to that? I think that's something you can
Speaker 1: just like the movie, get put on and be because
Speaker 1: if you become a movie star, yeah, now you're going
Speaker 1: to a comedy club or you have a big standard. Yeah.
Speaker 1: To me, that's that's the equivalent of that. Um. And
Speaker 1: then you know, you know immediately how you've affected the
Speaker 1: world when you're go on towards m hmm. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know exactly when they're showing up. Yeah, you're like, okay,
Speaker 1: I made a I made a dent in this thing.
Speaker 1: I get yeah, okay, so definitely definitely movie. So you're
Speaker 1: being the lights resident thug, Like, how is that for you?
Speaker 1: Is that? That's like I don't even think about it.
Speaker 1: It's not until you said it that I'm like, I
Speaker 1: do play a lot of funny thugs those different ship too,
Speaker 1: but those are yeah, those are something sticks when you
Speaker 1: do those characters. Because the interesting thing with all of
Speaker 1: those characters, yes, the the one thing that connects him
Speaker 1: is that, yes, the light skin thug right who who's
Speaker 1: just overly thubbed out goofy right, But they're not the
Speaker 1: same person like Ray Raid and the Kwan and Lester
Speaker 1: are not the same person people, which is so interesting
Speaker 1: to me because it's based around the same thing. And
Speaker 1: that's that's that's a trip to me what people are.
Speaker 1: Those characters are all from different places. But I think,
Speaker 1: and this is a blessing, is I have a relatability
Speaker 1: that thugs funk with. When the people in the street
Speaker 1: see you and they and they say, Nigga, that ship
Speaker 1: you're doing, that ship had me and my niggas rolling.
Speaker 1: When the niggas is in your in your comedy wave,
Speaker 1: the niggas fun with you. And again I thank God
Speaker 1: for this because I love my people. To be loved
Speaker 1: by the masses is great, but your people are gonna
Speaker 1: ride with you the whole way. They're just gonna ride
Speaker 1: with you. And so the characters have that through line.
Speaker 1: It's think about Ray Ray that they're just like, yo,
Speaker 1: this nigga is just we know he ain't a real gangster,
Speaker 1: but it's something about him that's like a nigger. I
Speaker 1: know about to say, because even as as as as
Speaker 1: as crazy as you go with the character, there is
Speaker 1: still somebody like that, mother who you are. We have
Speaker 1: seen the thug they get flinched and the yeah we
Speaker 1: said it absolutely, but yeah, it's a blessing to have
Speaker 1: that that connectivity with the streets. So what is your
Speaker 1: build as a comedian? Like? What is your like as
Speaker 1: you scroll through um the teachings and the things that
Speaker 1: you've um, the pieces that you've snatched from everywhere to
Speaker 1: build you? What do you radiance? What are the ingredients?
Speaker 1: What are the the Eddie Murphy, Martin Lawrence, All Things
Speaker 1: Wins and Living Color and Robert Townsend, Wow, George Carlin. Um.
Speaker 1: Like I said, All Things Wins includes Jim Carey for sure,
Speaker 1: and that so is that we like the whole physical
Speaker 1: comedy him and Martin, Him and Martin. My my wit,
Speaker 1: the nigga wit that I call it is Eddie. Eddie
Speaker 1: was the first guy that was nigga in the time
Speaker 1: when niggas most he said, because they knew Brooke was
Speaker 1: gonna get fucked that night. M hmm. He said that.
Speaker 1: He said, they was nervous about me taking Brooks Shields
Speaker 1: to the awards. They was cool with Mike doing it,
Speaker 1: but when I was gonna do it, they knew Brooke
Speaker 1: was gonna get So that's where I got my my
Speaker 1: nigga funny Eddie. That's that's the beginning of it. And
Speaker 1: then of course it's Bernie MC. There's Robin Harris, there's
Speaker 1: you know, I study goats. Chris Rock is one of
Speaker 1: my favorites when I'm on stage. I used the whole
Speaker 1: stage because of Chris Rock. Hands and um, where's your
Speaker 1: Who's your favorite stand up or comedian? Specifically my favorite
Speaker 1: of all times Eddie? Like of all time, it's it's Eddie.
Speaker 1: It's my favorite of all time. Anyone have a better
Speaker 1: stand up than that? And you open this is your opinion?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean because to me, no one,
Speaker 1: no one but has two specials and he's launched into
Speaker 1: forever start on. That's he's the goat. Yeah, it's hard
Speaker 1: to it's hard to talk against that. You just gotta
Speaker 1: leave that where it is. They don't have a bad one.
Speaker 1: Like everybody got a questionable You gotta leave those there,
Speaker 1: leave Eddie there, and they talk about everybody else. He
Speaker 1: has two classics, classics, right, the guys that have done
Speaker 1: more than him. You've done so many that you have
Speaker 1: time to have a bad one. You have the volume
Speaker 1: to have a bad one. Which I don't knock that either.
Speaker 1: There's output in that. But this, man, some of the
Speaker 1: most classic movies is Eddie. We're not even talking about
Speaker 1: the standard speciallygraphy hours to America Oscar worthy material, Oscar worthy.
Speaker 1: The clumps went into Oscar worthy? What was my other one? Uh? Listen,
Speaker 1: come on, man, he is the goat. He is the goat.
Speaker 1: There's no Oscar for comedy though, right there needs to
Speaker 1: be somebody. I think they're gonna create it, and they
Speaker 1: and they need to retro actively give Eddie Murphy ten
Speaker 1: ten of them, you know, and let all niggas out
Speaker 1: that got weed charges since it's legal, not that's coming.
Speaker 1: That's that's the two active things I need to have.
Speaker 1: But give Eddie his flowers and his motherfucking awards because
Speaker 1: he's better than all of them, man, all the ones
Speaker 1: that they try to well, he's the easy easy. He's
Speaker 1: the prototype for everything that I think every comedian is hope.
Speaker 1: Everyone damn come after him has tried to do it.
Speaker 1: The only person to push that line, I think a
Speaker 1: bit further Jamie fox Yeah, well he's another, He's another
Speaker 1: one of those creatures. Jamie is an alien genius. Um,
Speaker 1: he's one of my favorites, one of my favorites, but
Speaker 1: again he's my number two. Come from it, right, he's
Speaker 1: from that and what he's in a class by himself
Speaker 1: because Jamie has been able to do and he's the
Speaker 1: only one that has been able to do what even
Speaker 1: Eddie wanted to do, and that is be a successful musician, artist,
Speaker 1: at the top of every food chain. He has an
Speaker 1: award he has, he has Oscar, Oscar, Grammy, Tony whatever
Speaker 1: wouldn't be Ammy is Emmy, Oscar, Grammy and a bunch
Speaker 1: of other stuff. Yeah. That And there's three people that
Speaker 1: I say are the best storytellers, um, that I've ever heard.
Speaker 1: Two I've been around, um Bill Cosby, Jamie Foxx and
Speaker 1: Charlie Murphy. Storytelling impeccable Charlie Murphy. And I didn't know Tarlie,
Speaker 1: think me Charlie Murphy. But watching him tell those stories
Speaker 1: on the ship, hell shall that was that was history. Bro. Well,
Speaker 1: I I'm here to tell you as a as a friend,
Speaker 1: Charlie Murphy, that's just what he does. I've heard so
Speaker 1: many stories that will never see the light of day
Speaker 1: because it just show this motherfucking man that switch. You
Speaker 1: know him, but to think is bad. It just snick
Speaker 1: ahead of shower pipe underneath this he his hose with it.
Speaker 1: What he had to sell a pipe on his jagget
Speaker 1: and sucked his hose with it. Come, my dick, don't work.
Speaker 1: But I love him, you know what I'm saying? No,
Speaker 1: why just and and to that, like a guy like
Speaker 1: Charlie Murphy, there could never be another one of him. Well,
Speaker 1: but I'm about to speak on like a guy like
Speaker 1: Charlie Murphy, a guy like um Um Bernie mack Um,
Speaker 1: guys like that who have funny ship about him already
Speaker 1: right right, right, right right, You're already funny without doing
Speaker 1: comedy like you could just fun just funny guys. They
Speaker 1: just look as soon as you look at Don Rob
Speaker 1: like man. The reason why I said it couldn't be
Speaker 1: another Charlie though, is because he had the cheat code.
Speaker 1: Brother was the most famous, funniest on the planet, right,
Speaker 1: and he got to just be a fly on the
Speaker 1: wall and experienced all the things that Eddie kind of
Speaker 1: couldn't because he's the start. But he wasn't even just
Speaker 1: the homie. This is my brother, my brother. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: got access. Yeah, I was Brooks too on everything, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it's like for him it
Speaker 1: was different. That's why. That's why when they did the
Speaker 1: Chappelle thing, it just it was so genius because it
Speaker 1: was his access, yeah, like and the beauty and it
Speaker 1: is that Charlie was his own thing. He was right,
Speaker 1: he wasn't. But he's nothing like Eddie. Right, there's nothing
Speaker 1: like each other, you know what I'm saying. And that's
Speaker 1: what I also respect about the ways family them niggas
Speaker 1: is all in terms of Collis Collis Comedics Family of
Speaker 1: all time, the same way how Rizza had every one
Speaker 1: of the Woods thing with their own label deep he
Speaker 1: diversified it. I watched when I watched Marlon Winds in
Speaker 1: this in the scary was the scary movie when when
Speaker 1: he was in the bed by himself and he acted
Speaker 1: out the ghosts raping him. Oh that I screamed when
Speaker 1: I saw school, I screamed for about an hour time.
Speaker 1: When you went to see that, you got it, I
Speaker 1: was like, what is wrong with this? In the same movie,
Speaker 1: heu a teddy bear like he was full on sweating
Speaker 1: it's And then you got Damnon who was in cup
Speaker 1: made up had funny parts in color colors like Who's
Speaker 1: also one of the legendary like one of my Keenan
Speaker 1: Keenan Ivory wins. He is literally saving your family. Looks
Speaker 1: like right, he's nepotism done the right way. What him
Speaker 1: and Joe Jackson at this point, I mean, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give it to Kean. I'm gonna get and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say why. I'm gonna say, I'm gonna give it to
Speaker 1: Keenan because Keenan was the person who could who could
Speaker 1: create the opportunities right, like Joe Jackson created the stars right.
Speaker 1: But he wasn't. He wasn't Berry Gordy though, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So Kenny Keenan Ivery Wains is Joe
Speaker 1: Jackson and Berry Gordy all in one. Yeah, because the
Speaker 1: way they all operate, Like whoever has a network TV show,
Speaker 1: you're gonna see eight wins, period music, whatever, Uh, rotten
Speaker 1: standing guests. Nobody's done it like them nobody If no,
Speaker 1: you watching that and sees that there's a blueprint and
Speaker 1: it's his brain child, it's from him a thousand percent.
Speaker 1: That's that's incredible. And the fact that like I was,
Speaker 1: I think I was watching it randomly, was it raw
Speaker 1: or delirious that he wrote off raw him and um,
Speaker 1: it's another it's Robert Towns and Robert Townsend. Um they
Speaker 1: co wrote the sketch in the beginning. But I mean
Speaker 1: being around Eddie at that time, you know we tag
Speaker 1: each other joke. I'm sure that they had some you know,
Speaker 1: some more input in name, but to see their names
Speaker 1: on that was like on raw raw, Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: and then not to mention Hollywood Shuffle, like that's Robert
Speaker 1: Towns was in his bag and sketch show Man where
Speaker 1: John Witherspoon came from, and a whole lot of other
Speaker 1: David Allen Greer I think was on in a couple
Speaker 1: of Monster Monster Monster. Yeah, we've been blessed man we've
Speaker 1: been blessed. We were blessed because comedy or in terms
Speaker 1: of the people I think who are getting on in
Speaker 1: a comedic space today, it's different. It's different. That's actually
Speaker 1: a segue into me wanting to know your thoughts on
Speaker 1: insta comedy. I just I just had a panel discussion
Speaker 1: today with about insta comedy, not insta comedy, but with
Speaker 1: DC Young Fly. He and I want the same panel
Speaker 1: And I always say it like this, Um, I don't
Speaker 1: care what the platform or the era. There's good niggas
Speaker 1: and there's garbage niggas, right, fair enough. So when it
Speaker 1: comes to the insta social media and people like, ah,
Speaker 1: that ain't real, that sh it. Ain't they cheating? It's
Speaker 1: too simple. It's too they're not really doing uh, they
Speaker 1: put in the time in the work. If that was
Speaker 1: the mentality that was that prevailed, prevailed in the seventies,
Speaker 1: we wouldn't have hip hop because all them bands, all
Speaker 1: them seventies bands, that was music theory part of it,
Speaker 1: and part of it wasn't their mentality though. No, But
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, if if, if it would have succeeded
Speaker 1: and they were able to shut down these niggas that's
Speaker 1: taken out records and saying word yeah it's hippity hop.
Speaker 1: They cheat it. We learned the instruments. How are you
Speaker 1: gonna take my vinyl and you're gonna say some bullshit
Speaker 1: over you know what I mean. It was a lot
Speaker 1: of old g that was mad. They were mad. But
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is I'm not gonna be that nigga.
Speaker 1: Now that's overlooking the next wave of hip whatever it is,
Speaker 1: whatever this social media ship is. Get involved. Do you
Speaker 1: think you did that? You did get involved? Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: my mentality. It's like, I'm just gonna I'm gona get involved.
Speaker 1: But for me, when I when I got into comedy
Speaker 1: during the insta comedy era, I didn't I didn't want
Speaker 1: to be I didn't want to be instat funny. I
Speaker 1: wanted to be able to go into a bar with
Speaker 1: seven people and make them laugh, because that's that's how
Speaker 1: the comedians that I appreciate got it. And so I
Speaker 1: felt like there was there was a piece of that
Speaker 1: foundation that I wanted to connect to, a step that
Speaker 1: I didn't want to skip, just personally, just personally, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I wanted to connect to that
Speaker 1: for sure, because I just thought because that's because that's
Speaker 1: that's that's how greatness was defined to me, because those
Speaker 1: are the people that I grew up under. And I'm
Speaker 1: not mad at the inst to funny. I get it,
Speaker 1: and you're smart for taking adapting and running with it.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing, as with music, right, the greatest
Speaker 1: ones in hip hop come from music. Nah's dad was
Speaker 1: a jazz musician. Rock him dad jazz musician, um Dr Dreide.
Speaker 1: He plays like the ones that still want to go
Speaker 1: learn the foundation of musical perfecting, the crack really perfecting.
Speaker 1: They're the ones that's going to be around for a
Speaker 1: long time and have been around for decades. So you
Speaker 1: are cut from that claude. I am cut from that claude,
Speaker 1: Like I'm not being We're not insta funny already. We
Speaker 1: are already niggas that got the tools to get on
Speaker 1: stage and perform. We know how to move a crowd, right,
Speaker 1: We're just using Instagram as an extra platform add to
Speaker 1: our arsenal. It's not all we have, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. But what I say about that is get involved,
Speaker 1: Like get involved, don't shun it. Don't look at these
Speaker 1: niggas that you think is not funny and they're on
Speaker 1: Instagram doing comedy. Some of them niggas is hilarious. It's
Speaker 1: up to them to want to take it. For me
Speaker 1: as a consumer, are a fan even um, there are
Speaker 1: certain pages that I just go to. I want to
Speaker 1: see what the right what the new post of this
Speaker 1: guy from a spice Adam to a highihday this to
Speaker 1: a d C comedian though you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Or like when be Sa moaning and was doing all
Speaker 1: of that, they skits and you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like the Desy Banks you having me hollering, Yeah, like
Speaker 1: there's something to that and it's very important for us,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like I because and and
Speaker 1: maybe I'm not a comedian so I wouldn't know, So
Speaker 1: I ask you someone being able to get something off
Speaker 1: like that in a minute seems harder to me because
Speaker 1: it's not like they can really drag the joke out
Speaker 1: and it's no you know, with the punchline type of thing.
Speaker 1: It's more so like you can't edit. But making something
Speaker 1: funny in a minute it's hard though. No it's not
Speaker 1: because I think, but like this, I feel like it's better.
Speaker 1: It's you can. You can. It's like it's like it's
Speaker 1: like doing theater versus doing a TV show. Okay, you
Speaker 1: can edit ed you on theater when you're doing theater.
Speaker 1: Get off. You can't. You can't, you can't. Want and done.
Speaker 1: You got your you got your lines right now. There
Speaker 1: is no break character, there is no do over. You
Speaker 1: get to curate that one minute that you're creating on Instagram.
Speaker 1: You get I don't like that one Let me get
Speaker 1: to this faster out there it is you get to
Speaker 1: show people. Is that it? That? Ain't it what I
Speaker 1: need to do? Okay? There's the editing process to getting
Speaker 1: a good take for Instagram versus getting on that stage
Speaker 1: at the laugh Factory for an Inglewood. Yeah. And that's
Speaker 1: really it always boils down to you gotta know how
Speaker 1: to do it all, you know what I mean. You
Speaker 1: can't just be a sprinter. You gotta get some marathon
Speaker 1: in your loan. You know. I can get on stage
Speaker 1: for an hour twenty and be comfortable in that. I'm
Speaker 1: endured for that hour. I know what that's like. I've
Speaker 1: done back to back hours in in the same night. Right. Um,
Speaker 1: I can get on and do a fifteen second reel
Speaker 1: on I g get up, do a dance move or character,
Speaker 1: or me and Spice can get on the improv for
Speaker 1: a whole hour and a half, whatever it is. I'm
Speaker 1: comfortable because I've taken the time to play in all
Speaker 1: of those. You build your foundation in the joint. If
Speaker 1: you limited to if you limited to this a minute
Speaker 1: or fifteen seconds, and you talk about you want to
Speaker 1: be a star and you want to expand, and you
Speaker 1: ain't got none of the other training up under. You
Speaker 1: don't pull up on leg day and try to squat
Speaker 1: that goddamn three fifty or whatever is. Don't you god
Speaker 1: damn get on stage somewhere. You're gonna headline an hour
Speaker 1: from from from this you just just saw you there before. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: But I respect the nigga. Is that respected des I've
Speaker 1: done shows with him. He's funny, but he's learning. He's
Speaker 1: admittedly learning, DC young fly, that nigga got it, but
Speaker 1: he's humble, he's still always studying and learning. I respect him,
Speaker 1: young niggas that says, Let's say, I I know the
Speaker 1: platform that came up on allowed me to get it
Speaker 1: out faster, uh and sooner, But I gotta do the work.
Speaker 1: I gotta I respect these old g s that I
Speaker 1: don't want to, you know, cheapen the arena of Common.
Speaker 1: And I thought it was really cool with Martin was
Speaker 1: doing what he was doing with the youngs. I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess it was like he was hosting, but he
Speaker 1: had like the simone and a couple of other like
Speaker 1: young you know what I mean. Because for somebody like Martin,
Speaker 1: that ship, you know what I'm saying, So for him
Speaker 1: to you know, introduce and that leveled up to my
Speaker 1: standard special salute to the gun. It's in't that it
Speaker 1: made the cut. I had to pay homage. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: hate I had to pay homage. That's I mean, that's
Speaker 1: one of my big heroes. So what is the next one?
Speaker 1: In Roscoe Jenkins was back in the same building. Huh
Speaker 1: what what is the next what is the next death
Speaker 1: comedy jam moment? What do you mean for me? Or period?
Speaker 1: But it is that possible. Here's here's the thing. It
Speaker 1: is possible, I would say to a degree while and
Speaker 1: that was that for me. M hm. Great. You get
Speaker 1: a bunch of raw, hungry comedians together on the same stage,
Speaker 1: especially when we first started. I mean, that's me, d
Speaker 1: Ray Corey holcom Chat Williams, Williams, Williams, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, that's now you have some dogs on that.
Speaker 1: Yeah we was, we was them guys right and then
Speaker 1: now Chico being Carlos Miller, DC Young Fly like them.
Speaker 1: Niggas is animals. They really know their ship. Yeah I
Speaker 1: saw hips. But to me, that is our this generation's
Speaker 1: version of death comedy jam that has a longer span.
Speaker 1: You know, people will be like, oh, it's not the
Speaker 1: same anymore, what all of that? Where else are you
Speaker 1: going to see a show with comedy and rap perfectly
Speaker 1: fused together like Niggas is coming on, They're getting putting
Speaker 1: their careers on snoopers, on their trading raps with comedians
Speaker 1: pnb Rock whoever, like uh luke a fiasco, h vic Mensa,
Speaker 1: Like it's for me, that's our version of deaf comedy
Speaker 1: gam but there can always be another one. It's just
Speaker 1: about the industry getting the funk out the way and
Speaker 1: us saying all right now this We're not gonna keep
Speaker 1: letting them tell us what's funny and what's not. We're
Speaker 1: not gonna wait for the green light. It takes somebody
Speaker 1: daring to say I'm going to create this created and
Speaker 1: shoot it and then I you know, if I need
Speaker 1: to partner with it, our partner period, So it can
Speaker 1: be one. Yeah. Well, if we're not gonna keep you forever,
Speaker 1: I mean, you're welcome to stay in. The guests from
Speaker 1: UM appreciate you. Man J has a special segment of
Speaker 1: this show that he likes to you know, likes to
Speaker 1: call upon our guests to especially someone you know of
Speaker 1: your travels well, travel well travel anything in Germany with
Speaker 1: a karate suit on't I've done some things you've got
Speaker 1: That's a different level. It's a different level of the
Speaker 1: first person I ever met, like your real life karate kid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you bleed on inside him riding Man, I cannot fight.
Speaker 1: Just let's just be clear, all right, all right? So yeah,
Speaker 1: so of all your travels, man, so we have we
Speaker 1: have a segment of the show. It's called sand No
Speaker 1: Names and the story can either be funny are fucked up,
Speaker 1: but you can't use the people name and can give
Speaker 1: so you know what I mean, he gives some inklings
Speaker 1: on who it might be by the way you tell
Speaker 1: the story, So the people can be trying to figure
Speaker 1: this sh it out, But you cannot say their name.
Speaker 1: I ain't saying on that. I'm gonna just say this
Speaker 1: right here. Mhmm. There's a nigga. If if I said
Speaker 1: his name, I think y'all would run. But when I
Speaker 1: describe him, y'all going to know exactly what what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about. This is a guy who has his face
Speaker 1: wrapped on vans and he always in a fantom. I've
Speaker 1: seen the nigga have billboards around and he's got every
Speaker 1: band danna from every culture and he wraps it in
Speaker 1: the front like Aunt Jemima Paca, are you kidding? And
Speaker 1: he's got photos with like Jack's. He's he's every fucking where,
Speaker 1: and he gets out on the red carpet with the
Speaker 1: adornments high waves, high waves, and the paths will be like,
Speaker 1: what's amazing energy. It's amazing energy. Amazing energy knows every
Speaker 1: I'm always happy to see it. To this day, I
Speaker 1: don't know what the funk he goes. I've always heard
Speaker 1: that he was an artist. I never heard of goddamn song,
Speaker 1: but the freshest newest family Bentley Cooper, Hovercraft. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying these names exist, and uh, I ain't saying no names.
Speaker 1: But that's I don't know if you call that a story,
Speaker 1: but this is this is your mind. It's been on
Speaker 1: your mindorious one. It's great in this, in this, in
Speaker 1: this town. The way you the way you just articulated,
Speaker 1: that would probably be the way all of us would
Speaker 1: have partiulated seating because you know who I'm talking about. Listen,
Speaker 1: A lovely brother, I mean, spirit is amazing, a lovely brother.
Speaker 1: He floats when he walks. It's always blessed, always, and
Speaker 1: conversations always, always great energy. Not a bad thing in
Speaker 1: the world can be said about it. There are only
Speaker 1: questions that can be asked, What do you do? Who
Speaker 1: do you know? Everybody I'm talking about? If Obama's in town,
Speaker 1: he's gonna you right next to him. Yeah, I've seen
Speaker 1: him in places that I just I couldn't get into him.
Speaker 1: How who are you where? This is gonna be part
Speaker 1: of our unsolved mysterious segment When he started deartelling, as
Speaker 1: soon as she started, he was gone. As soon as
Speaker 1: you started here, everybody, Hey, look I got one more.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna yota one more, just one more. Because because
Speaker 1: that wasn't a damn story, it was, though it is
Speaker 1: because I have personal interactions with the guy great energy.
Speaker 1: We've been in many parking lots and hands is moving.
Speaker 1: It's always a parking lot because it's always a whip too,
Speaker 1: though it's always an amazing whip, always standing outside the crap. Right,
Speaker 1: there's always a plan. Let me get your number because
Speaker 1: dot dot dot ellipsies. Right. So it was a story,
Speaker 1: got damnit jay bounce. The other story. I think I
Speaker 1: just said my old name, like I'm in trouble to
Speaker 1: do the principal's office. But no, there's there's a I'm
Speaker 1: not even gonna say the profession. But you're already gonna know.
Speaker 1: There's there's a cat that you know showed. I call
Speaker 1: it the shoulders is always moving, m and you know
Speaker 1: I got the new you know gonna show you was
Speaker 1: the Keynna put the key on the table while we're
Speaker 1: just getting a burger. Yeah, put the lamb again. Man.
Speaker 1: I already know ship always signaling for ship. And it's like,
Speaker 1: all right, I know you I don't know getting it,
Speaker 1: but are you getting it? Because I know niggas that
Speaker 1: do what you do and ain't moving. The shoulders don't
Speaker 1: move as much as yours do. But your shoulders be
Speaker 1: mean saying right. So that's all I'm saying. I'm saying
Speaker 1: on that. Man. If I say anymore, I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: a text. Get a text. You have you have the
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