WEBVTT - Affion Crockett 0:00:02.680 --> 0:00:18.000 Money. Well say, we are the authority and what's going 0:00:18.040 --> 0:00:20.040 on with your boy Tank? This is the Army Money 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:23.040 podcast again. I'm take this is Valentine. We are the 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:28.680 authorities on R and B and in the building other 0:00:28.720 --> 0:00:35.840 authorities and the truth don't don't act me. They're gonna 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:38.120 find out today. Let's go. My brother, a fan is 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:43.840 in the building man, and um, um, he's a he's 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:46.200 a family member, he's a friend. So this is nothing 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:48.599 about this will be formal. We'll try to give you 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:52.880 some formal information. Um. We can't promise you in between 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:55.360 all of the madness because it'll just take a turn 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:57.160 and you just never know where it's gonna go. We 0:00:57.200 --> 0:01:01.640 want to start off right here, Come on, knees, talk 0:01:01.680 --> 0:01:10.640 about it. First of all, man's a nice quatskay alright, 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:12.880 I do legs. I don't skip leg day. That's that's 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:16.480 what these shorts. These shorts are to promote, never skip 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:18.640 leg day. You want to give them a quatch? No 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:21.800 you probably don't. You well, okay, you partationship. I think 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:24.520 it's dope, man, because we also to tag onto that 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:28.640 the verses like I feel like what you what you 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:35.760 in spice do with versus it is I won't say 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:41.440 as important as versus, but it's pretty. It's it's pretty. 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:46.319 There's a necessity. There's a necessity especially right now because 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:50.200 as much as we all love the music, as we're 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:54.280 watching hilarious, there's always some funny and it's hilarious bro's 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:57.440 and and it gives you guys give up a place 0:01:57.520 --> 0:02:02.280 to go after for commenting right right, like because people 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:04.880 want to kind of get their ship off still online 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:08.120 and I and it's funny because if you watch the verses, 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:11.520 it's all praise for the most part. Right you have 0:02:11.560 --> 0:02:14.200 a couple of niggas in there. You gotta segnorance in there. 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:16.320 But see, this is the problem of where we are 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:18.760 as a society right now. It's like there are those 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:22.240 of us, including myself Tony Baker, like, well will joke 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:25.560 in the comments and other people be like, why you're 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:28.760 disrespecting the moment while y'all it's like, first of all, 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:32.280 we are here because we esteem these people period, Like 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:35.040 let's just call it what it is. But we're comedians. 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:38.720 We're not a comedian. I'll be in there saying exactly 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:42.720 like and I know black people are comedian. YEA. Our 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:45.440 culture as a as a whole week we say funny ship, 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:48.120 and we knew that the shoe was gonna come flying 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:51.320 off with Patty. We knew everyone had a pie joke, 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:54.840 you know what everybody had looking glad it's outfit old, 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:57.680 she got the church glitter on the sequences popping. You know, 0:02:57.760 --> 0:02:59.880 niggas is gonna say ship. We we talk about the 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:02.840 Aunties who we love for sure, I mean for sure, 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:08.160 And I think you and Spice give more of a 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:12.440 safe place, a safer, safer place to you, just like 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:16.040 you know, even though versus supposed to be fun, and 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:18.040 sometimes it kind of gets a little serious, like you 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:21.280 said in the comment sections of like Man, like these 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:22.919 guys are comedians that you know what I mean, Like 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:25.680 everybody got a joke in Depending on the chemistry of 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:28.680 the of the people that's in the verses, sometimes they 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:31.440 too cool, and you know, it gets a little born 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:33.320 or it gets a little monotonous because they're trying to 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:36.440 outcool each other and that's not as entertaining, you know 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:38.160 what I mean. So you gotta have a little life 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:41.120 in there, and you know, not take yourself so seriously. 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:45.800 So we met a Spice just we we right after verses. 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:48.720 We turn it all the way up. The fact that 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:51.760 y'all got that type of chemistry working with each other 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:56.880 without knowing each other before. This is the craziest thing. Yeah, 0:03:57.320 --> 0:03:59.920 you know what I mean, I still have never met 0:03:59.920 --> 0:04:06.280 a person. Get the funk out of here. No, stay, 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:13.280 we never met a person though. I'm just a fan 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:16.160 of his comedy. I didn't even know he's a football 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:18.320 player before because I don't really follow football at that. 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:22.280 But it was like a professional ball Yeah, yeah, what 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:25.279 do you played form? He might have played for like 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:27.240 the Falcons or somebody like that, but like now, he 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:30.159 was like alignment. Because it's crazy that when I saw him, 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:33.000 when I saw him hitting the bag, he's like I 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:34.479 was like this. I was like, no, he can fight. 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:36.680 He got handed. I said, he can actually fight. That's 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:38.440 not like he not, No, no no, he got hands. Yeah, 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:40.520 taking this time he got here doing He's doing the 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:42.800 whole thing. I said, work. I said, Spice album was funny, 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:44.920 but he might suck you up like in real life, 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:49.039 in actual life, actual life. And he got the weight 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:50.840 and he's getting his way down, but he still got 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:53.839 them fat man bone. Yeah you know what I mean, 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:56.920 come across your chin so you've never met Spice out, 0:04:57.080 --> 0:05:01.359 we've never met in person. Where is he at Detroit? Wow? Okay? Yeah, 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:03.600 So I just was already a fan. And you know 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:07.320 how it is with anything, whether it's uh like how 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:10.400 you and Jamie. When Jamie first discovered you, he was like, 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:13.560 this guy has something that's similar to my thing and 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:16.320 we need to work together. Right. You can see that 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:19.640 somebody has your rhythm and has your your DNA. So 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:21.840 that's when I saw him, and he was a fan 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:25.280 of mine too. We just automatically clicked. So it was 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:27.960 baby Face and Teddy Riley the first one. The first 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:32.400 one because it was so many it was too many 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:38.159 many bars in that ship. Yeah, I'm not only I 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:45.440 screamed you food. I scream I heard Teddy Riley wanted 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:55.680 to kick your baker. Yeah, he definitely, because Tony was 0:05:55.800 --> 0:06:00.919 commenting and roasting the funk out of and said it 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:05.840 was like he issued a statement. He was like, man, 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:08.440 we do this thing. I'm a legend in this game, 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:10.280 and but you know they squashed it. They squashed it 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:12.600 the next day. Tony is a fan, so he's like, look, 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:14.080 I'm just being a comedian, but I don't want to 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:20.320 hurt one of my legends. But me and Spice, Yeah whatever, 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:27.880 y'all can get these hands. It looks you know, I 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:31.279 know Teddy got hands too because I know his seafood um. 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:34.120 He on that come ship too, But I don't know. 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:35.880 It's all on good fun. We ain't tripping on nobody 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:44.280 fight and Beady Riley. I loved that. That is one 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:47.160 of my mentors. I just felt like that would be 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:49.120 a great I just felt like that. I felt like 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:52.760 it'd be a great sound bite. It wasn't. God takes here, 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:58.839 Teddy Riley up, just memy to care and me and 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:01.120 Jay got to do with disclaim the thoughts and muses 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:08.120 tanks along. So yeah, man, like we get the pandemic 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:11.840 week for people who don't know right like you said, 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:13.600 you even just dropped the bars. Don't know you were 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:15.840 kung fu master dog. I'm not a master Let me 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:18.960 just look listen. In the hood, in the hood, no 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:24.800 high go any nigger with the shoes along, he'd be 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:28.440 kicking trees. He just walking for real. So in the 0:07:28.480 --> 0:07:29.760 hood you come from backs. I don't care if you 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:33.040 took two lessons, like, man, did you come on, he's 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:39.200 on the bus. Yeah, I used to wear that school 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:42.640 no way but the buttons to school, No just to 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:48.120 school while living in Germany. What I was the I 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:52.640 was the Bruce Lee boy. He was over there in 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:55.560 the whole other country that the big white cups and yeah, 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:59.200 I don't were you walking were you walking through with 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:04.960 the hands? And this? Are you fully committed? You fully committed? 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:06.800 I mean I was always eight. You know, they knew 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:10.480 me as they just like he did. That's just eight different, 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:14.000 you know what I mean? What mind you? By the time, 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:17.000 he was already to me for like break dancing, and 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:20.200 so they knew I was, I was saying. But when 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:24.400 I got into my ship and I had the cuffs, 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:29.640 I was, you know. And everybody said, but why at school? 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:36.840 Why why not? For why you know what? His shirt 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:42.000 off everywhere? Why not? Why not if you could do 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:46.320 tell my wife that, hm, tell my wife that good luck? 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:48.680 Is it becoming a thing like why are you taking 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:54.080 your shirt? I'm gonna say not, you know what you 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:57.600 should do and just going forward? Should the question pop 0:08:57.679 --> 0:09:01.720 up again? Why are you always taking your shirt off? 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:12.920 Just do this? Look at all this all that's got damn, 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:17.080 look at all this. Look at yourself it's a shirt 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:20.439 off money. It's a shirt off money. This is tit 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:26.000 is on display money. Huh your single, right, you goddamn right. Yeah, 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:29.480 he's gonna be too trying to ship. Man, be something, 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:32.800 has some cool partners to be single with. If it 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:36.320 all bad, I'm not gonna I can't get ticked out 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:41.040 of my house. Jay, let's start there. You can in California. 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:46.240 You can't. It's different out here. Man, We're in California, California, man, 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:49.040 that's why try to get the California. I know his wife. 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:51.520 He's a good friend. Zina. You know what. You're married. 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:58.000 Don't kick him out. R and B money. These views straight, 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:07.720 same thing that anybody I was remember. I remember the time, Hey, 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:11.240 I was getting ready to say, are shared? Okay, okay, 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:14.439 I jumped the gun with me and my good brother. 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:19.120 He's just shared. I'm not gonna pull the CPS APC 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:21.560 and throw throw it under the buck. We don't share 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:26.280 these and then be living if you an't got room 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:32.160 for me? So what is it all begin? Man? Yeah, 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:34.720 give us, give us a big break. It's a big 0:10:34.760 --> 0:10:38.400 break for me. You should all begin in my living room. 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:42.679 As a kid um in Germany in Germany, baby sitting 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:45.800 my little sisters. They sleep and I'm left in the 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:48.880 living room watching TV. I just got consumed by that ship. 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:51.840 And that's back when they had full on campaigns on 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:54.280 TV saying don't let your kids watch so much TV, 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:56.880 like it was the whole thing, the idiot box and 0:10:56.920 --> 0:10:59.920 maybe coming up with all these these phrases. But I 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:02.080 was getting charged from that ship. I was. I was 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:04.800 looking at TV a whole another way. It didn't mean 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:08.360 the same thing as everyone else. It wasn't mindless time 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:12.319 for me. I was looking at I was soaking all 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:14.240 that up. I was looking I was listening to dialogue, 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:16.240 I was listening to I was watching characters, I was 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:21.880 watching movement. So from that point to doing impressions and 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:23.880 you know, being able to mimic people I saw on TV. 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:26.360 I used to play music by ear, so that's when 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:30.160 my ear came from. To listen to somebody piano as 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:32.400 like a five girl. I hear, ship onto my little 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:35.760 castio and you have to play the melodies. But yeah, 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:38.360 that that translated into impressions. But the first big break 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:41.320 was Deaf comedy Jam. That was the one that got 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:47.320 me on television doing my thing. Yeah, it's by the Bug, 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:54.160 remember that. I remember that hosted by Jamie Foxx. I 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:57.240 did the season. It's called the All Star season. It 0:11:57.280 --> 0:11:59.160 was the last season. It was in the original Theater 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:02.599 in New York and it was all Stars, so everybody 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:05.120 hosted one. This is after Martin left, you know, a 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:08.400 couple of seasons, after they had tried Joe Torre, Ricky 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:13.480 Smile not Ricky Ricky Harris um. Remember they were rotating 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:16.120 host I think that Delve Gibbons maybe, and that last 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:19.240 season they said let's bring everybody back, so Steve Harvey, 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:22.520 Chris Rod, Dave Chappelle, everybody was on their last Tiefer 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:26.240 even hosted the episode and the episode that Jamie hosted, 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:29.320 I was on it. So that was my crazy. That 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:32.920 was my introduction. Yeah, now that that's super dope, man. 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:36.840 So from from there though, when you when you get 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:40.960 to a place like the legendary death comedy jam right, yeah, 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:44.559 scared shitless, Like what like what are the thoughts though 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:48.000 before you going? Because people don't understand comedy in that 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:51.200 in that aspect, right, and you were doing you weren't 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:55.480 doing traditional comedy like he was dancing and ship and 0:12:55.520 --> 0:12:57.640 you know what I'm saying it was mixed in. I've 0:12:57.679 --> 0:13:01.080 always been a nonconformist. I never did what anyone else did. 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:04.480 Like when people was getting the hood, was getting tattoos 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:07.040 and earrings and smoking blunts and doing all that. Ship. 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:09.640 I just never wanted to do what everyone else did. 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:12.680 It made me different. For a while. I was the outcast. 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:14.760 I didn't get invited to every house party or whatever. 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:17.719 Just said, you had on the karate. What do you that? 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:20.480 You know? Whatever? Not every day. I mean when you 0:13:20.559 --> 0:13:25.440 left Germany, you left, you left karate outfit in Germany. Uh, 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:28.280 you wanted an America too? No, I didn't do that. 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:32.720 I got back to the US. I was in Favane, 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:37.280 North Carolina. Oh black school. Oh yeah, I mean it 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:41.040 was niggas in Germany too. But the volume, yea, they 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:44.400 would have jumped you just for having the outfit. Well 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:47.720 let's just jump the karate. See what he got. Yeah, 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:51.240 let's see what lee Because they all had guns. That's 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:53.280 the other thing. Everybody had guns. When we see a 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:55.560 nigga with that on, it's kind of like, can I 0:13:55.600 --> 0:14:01.640 beat him? Yes, it's the dog the black community, it's 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:05.000 the endless ship. We like danger. Just something about us. 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:09.840 We like we like excitement. Is that we like danger? 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:14.000 Or now we like it? We like it? You know 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:15.880 some wild niggas. I know some wild niggas. We know 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:21.440 some wild But is it is it bigger than us 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:26.160 liking it? Is it more so of it? The aggression 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:31.600 and the thirst for that thing? Is it innate in 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:41.520 us as a demographic? Are we from from a soldier standpoint? 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:46.280 From a tribal standpoint? Are we? Is that more naturally 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:49.720 our element? Like? Think about it, Like when something's going down, 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:55.920 we run to it. We're like, what's happening, especially when 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:57.720 we're in that element. Let's do when we're in it. 0:14:57.800 --> 0:14:59.440 I had a conversation with somebody where I was telling 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:03.760 I was like, I was maybe maybe eleven twelve, and 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:07.040 we would hear gunshots. We would be trying to find 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:11.560 out word so we could go back and have all that. Man, 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:15.040 I said, Man, it was crazy, like dumbash in the 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:18.640 world as a grown man, and that I think of now, right, 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:21.280 But when I'm in that element, I'm eleven twelve years 0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:23.240 old and that's just what we were. Damn their baby kids. 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:28.840 Pretty much we gravitated towards it the most ridiculous. It ever, 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:32.800 like I've been more scared from lesser things than that thing. 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:35.440 You know what I mean. Like if I feel like 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:37.640 somebody about to catch your ass woman, and I'm like, oh, 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:39.360 I don't want to do this today, you know what 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:42.080 I mean. I get nervous in that moment. But I've 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:44.080 had to do pull a shotgun on me. And I 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:45.640 just looked at this. I like, if you're gonna do it, 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:49.640 you're gonna do it right. And I wasn't scared. So 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:51.760 I don't know what that thing is. I guess the 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:57.440 more heightened the the circumstance, it is innate for us 0:15:57.520 --> 0:16:00.640 to to rise to the occasion. So and then the 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:03.480 element that, like you said that we are raised in 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:06.880 a lot of it. It just is what it is. 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:08.600 Like you look out the windows, see who's doing it. 0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:13.800 You get back to watching cartoons. That's it. It ain't 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:16.520 we gotta move, you know what I'm saying. Just don't 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:20.560 go up, Just don't go through. It's wild up there 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:23.480 right now, you know what I'm saying. Um, So you're 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:30.720 scared a lot of So you're scared shitless at and 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:32.840 you're done stand up. So you do you understand the 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:36.160 but imagine but see you've done stand up in a 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:39.240 different way, Like you're you're you're already successful in one 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:42.480 thing and you're not trying out another skill set. Right, 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:46.960 Imagine stand up is your only thing. You're fresh out 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:50.040 of school and you're now in a in a theater 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:54.360 where there's no like, no one's walking around with security guards. 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:57.640 Everyone's just kind of floating around. But it's every legend 0:16:57.680 --> 0:17:02.560 that you've ever fucking admired, right, chilling on the second 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:05.399 level in the balcony, chilling behind the control booth on 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:08.639 the first floor, chilling backstage by the makeup artist. There's 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:12.280 Jay Anthony Brown, There's Jamie Fox, There's Cedric the entertainer. 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:16.640 There's Staying Laton, There's Russell Simmons. There's all these people 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:20.960 that can change your life, nigga. And I'm just like 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:28.040 anybody at that point, had you already kind of did 0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:31.199 your rounds a little bit because how are how are 0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:34.520 guys getting on death comedy? Bob Sumner, Bob Summer is 0:17:34.560 --> 0:17:38.120 the guy I said that in every every interview. Bob 0:17:38.160 --> 0:17:41.040 Summer is the talent scout. Who I mean, he was 0:17:41.119 --> 0:17:43.520 more than a talent scout. He was like the glue. 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:45.520 He should have been a producer. I don't know if 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:48.439 he was or not, but he was Russell and stands 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:52.480 right handed. And he flew to every club, every club 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:56.479 that wasn't white, and they just trusted his word. If 0:17:56.480 --> 0:17:59.960 he said you, he brought you, Bill Bellamy, Chris Tucker Burned, 0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:03.280 he brought everyone to the table, like you can't fund 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:07.120 on his track record of going to find that talent. 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:09.359 And of course people had, you know, their mixed reviews 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:12.640 about him as a personality back then. But I understand it. 0:18:13.240 --> 0:18:16.960 You're the gatekeeper to the biggest stand up comedy show 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:19.840 in the game. You're gonna be a little sauce that stuff. 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:25.679 It's all the time when whenever you a gatekeeper of anything, 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:30.080 the nigger that lets you in the club has that ship. 0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:33.240 He got it on him and should a little. We 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:35.880 just want to have a good time, like why you, 0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:40.960 why are you? You know what I'm saying, And don't 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:45.320 touch me. Don't your mind too, like just don't touch me, 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:48.440 like we got all the conversation, but the niggers always 0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:50.679 want to do this. Yeah, can everybody just get back 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:53.840 a little bit because it's getting a little You're not 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:57.480 the fire Marshal and when I get in, it's twelve people. 0:18:58.200 --> 0:18:59.959 Because you want to make a lot of crazy outside 0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:03.960 brolet come on stop. But that gatekeeper dog, it's that's 0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:08.399 a different type of responsibility. It's a different type. So 0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:10.119 I get it. I get it. And he was getting 0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:12.560 you know, people trying to bribe him. And when he 0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:14.439 comes to city, they got hose for him. It's all 0:19:14.560 --> 0:19:18.760 kind of ship man that he has to this ald 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:20.440 kind of ship that he has to manage. But he's 0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:23.760 the guy. He's the guy that got everybody on that 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:25.720 ship on that joint. I mean, I'm sure there's some 0:19:25.760 --> 0:19:29.400 cases that maybe they already knew somebody. You're walking into 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:40.800 a building. Yeah, nineties, just the golden era. This is 0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:47.160 all of those things. All you see def jam artists, 0:19:47.240 --> 0:19:50.359 you see Freddy Fox and you see fat Freddie just 0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:54.880 chilling like it's a different it's a different time, and 0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:57.679 it's it's the moment can change your life. So I'm 0:19:57.760 --> 0:20:00.640 scared shitless and I'm you know, I go the night 0:20:00.680 --> 0:20:03.520 before to watch some of the other tapings, and then 0:20:03.560 --> 0:20:07.720 that night in my room, I didn't sleep. I'm in 0:20:07.760 --> 0:20:10.359 front of the window overlooking New York City with a 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:14.399 fucking uh I don't know what the toothbrush or something 0:20:14.840 --> 0:20:18.520 in my hand going over my set. I'm like Bernie mcinnum, 0:20:18.640 --> 0:20:21.080 leave out the car. Then I'm doing my Bernie mac 0:20:21.080 --> 0:20:24.960 ship ship. Don't do cartwheel, Oh I'm gonna do that. 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:27.320 I hate these names with a good times dance, the 0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:32.360 good times po nigger I was. I was going over 0:20:32.359 --> 0:20:36.080 the place, make sure the plays was there. But and 0:20:36.240 --> 0:20:43.520 and this was my first lesson in don't um be flexible, 0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:46.680 don't come out with a plan. And when the plan 0:20:46.800 --> 0:20:50.679 goes awrye you don't know what to do because like 0:20:50.800 --> 0:20:53.520 most young comedians, I'm trying to rely on music. My 0:20:53.560 --> 0:20:55.760 big opener has to be to this song, Kick Kapre, 0:20:55.880 --> 0:20:58.000 can you play this song? Come out? He plays the 0:20:58.000 --> 0:21:01.880 wrong goddamn song. So I'm on live television saying, kid, 0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:04.000 can you play the other song I told you to play? 0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:11.280 And we're waiting a whole seven seconds and this is like, 0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:16.040 it's also a new kid telling Kick, So it looks 0:21:16.080 --> 0:21:18.840 like you don't It don't look like him at all. 0:21:19.520 --> 0:21:24.560 But but in in retrospect, it was me. It don't 0:21:24.760 --> 0:21:27.000 matter what this nigga play, I'm supposed to get out 0:21:27.000 --> 0:21:30.360 there and get into it right, but I picked it up, 0:21:30.920 --> 0:21:34.199 you know, the I found my groove and they was like, 0:21:34.240 --> 0:21:37.840 oh he's creative, he's oh the good times playing. So 0:21:37.880 --> 0:21:40.800 I was able to recover, but it was like never again, 0:21:41.320 --> 0:21:42.919 now I'm coming out all right, Oh that ain't work. 0:21:43.000 --> 0:22:07.720 Like I say, oh I did that one time. Where 0:22:07.800 --> 0:22:10.760 was you at? I was probably the worst place to 0:22:10.800 --> 0:22:14.320 do that. I was in uh Inglewood at the Savoy 0:22:17.240 --> 0:22:22.000 Chris Spencer's thing. Yeah yeah, yeah, and you didn't You've 0:22:22.000 --> 0:22:28.399 already sold out the Savoy music right, So plenty of 0:22:28.440 --> 0:22:31.520 times like like like like people out on the street, 0:22:31.600 --> 0:22:35.679 floods on the street, right, But that's but that's but 0:22:35.800 --> 0:22:39.280 that was also the problem for me in that world. No, 0:22:39.800 --> 0:22:41.600 the problem for me in that venue is as soon 0:22:41.600 --> 0:22:45.320 as I walked on stage, it was like it was 0:22:45.400 --> 0:22:50.679 like when you're gonna sing ship that. I was like, 0:22:50.720 --> 0:22:54.640 I was like this hold on two mortels indeed saying 0:22:54.760 --> 0:22:58.360 something they take off your shirt, and I was like, 0:22:58.840 --> 0:23:02.960 I hate black people. I don't want to perform with people. 0:23:04.119 --> 0:23:08.359 They won't let me be great. Just don't care what 0:23:09.680 --> 0:23:14.600 the box hold on you the backflip guy. So the 0:23:14.600 --> 0:23:16.040 intro was a little off. I was like, man, I 0:23:16.040 --> 0:23:17.639 don't like the intro. I don't like your response. We're 0:23:17.640 --> 0:23:19.879 gonna do this again. I'm gonna intro myself and I 0:23:19.880 --> 0:23:21.920 tried to do to reintroduce myself, and I came saying 0:23:22.240 --> 0:23:32.440 it was like alright, okay, al right. And my first 0:23:32.520 --> 0:23:35.520 joke was aggressive and was one girls in the front like, 0:23:35.680 --> 0:23:39.359 come on, tank, that don't do that. I like, right, 0:23:39.760 --> 0:23:42.440 she's talking to you, she's talking to me, you know 0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:46.359 what I'm saying. And so, yeah, I don't want to 0:23:46.400 --> 0:23:50.119 do too much negative crowd work in Inglewood. I was like, 0:23:50.200 --> 0:23:52.760 cause I don't know, get to your car. I don't know. 0:23:52.880 --> 0:23:55.359 I gotta get to my car. I don't want to 0:23:55.359 --> 0:23:58.240 start getting into the league. And you know what I'm saying, 0:23:58.240 --> 0:24:00.280 the bad outfit. I don't want to start doing doing 0:24:00.320 --> 0:24:02.800 comedy for free. I can't afford security, you know what 0:24:02.800 --> 0:24:05.959 I'm saying. So I'm just out of here. So so 0:24:06.080 --> 0:24:09.480 I didn't I didn't bomb. I just didn't do that. 0:24:09.640 --> 0:24:16.280 Good listen, you know what I've been there. This is 0:24:16.359 --> 0:24:19.040 when I knew he loved comedy though, because me and 0:24:19.119 --> 0:24:22.399 him talk, right, we talked after We do that with 0:24:22.440 --> 0:24:26.000 everything with music, whatever we own, movie ship and acting, whatever. 0:24:26.840 --> 0:24:29.919 And I don't go to all the comedy stuff, right 0:24:29.920 --> 0:24:32.800 because he sometimes I won't even know he just him me. 0:24:33.280 --> 0:24:35.280 I just want to I just went up and such 0:24:35.320 --> 0:24:37.320 and such. I'm like, not even heard that city before? 0:24:37.520 --> 0:24:40.439 How did you get there? Right? But I knew he 0:24:40.480 --> 0:24:43.080 was going up with as a boy, and I was like, 0:24:44.280 --> 0:24:46.200 I gotta talk to him after this one, right because 0:24:46.200 --> 0:24:48.479 I want to see you know what the vibe was 0:24:48.520 --> 0:24:51.040 for him? And I could tell in his voice he 0:24:51.160 --> 0:24:55.000 was like, fuck, ship didn't go the way I wanted 0:24:55.000 --> 0:24:58.000 it to go. And I said, so what you gonna do? 0:24:59.359 --> 0:25:02.440 I'm going back somewhere else tomorrow. He loved it. Yeah, 0:25:02.840 --> 0:25:06.119 I love it because someone who did like because you know, 0:25:06.520 --> 0:25:08.760 I looked at it like in his position of you've 0:25:08.840 --> 0:25:11.120 established yourself in his in his music state, I mean 0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:14.080 in music space. And like you said, as soon as 0:25:14.080 --> 0:25:15.600 they introduce your name at this point, because you gott 0:25:15.640 --> 0:25:18.359 hit records and people are fans of you, they're screaming 0:25:18.359 --> 0:25:21.280 because they came to see you. Now you're going to 0:25:21.359 --> 0:25:24.000 do something where they probably came to see somebody else 0:25:24.680 --> 0:25:28.000 and you're just trying to learn. But then they still 0:25:28.040 --> 0:25:31.119 have the you are such and such to us in 0:25:31.200 --> 0:25:34.160 certain in certain places. So when he was just like, 0:25:34.240 --> 0:25:36.040 oh no, no, I'm going back up, it's an ego 0:25:36.119 --> 0:25:39.480 check for sure. Yeah. Yeah, I haven't had that happened 0:25:39.520 --> 0:25:44.240 to me since for a Valley State homecoming in nine 0:25:44.359 --> 0:25:51.120 in two thousand about your your first freaking yeah, yeah, 0:25:51.440 --> 0:25:54.439 that's the last time that happened to me. And I 0:25:54.480 --> 0:25:56.919 was standing up there like this, I really am started 0:25:56.960 --> 0:26:00.600 at the beginning, I'm really, I'm really a baby, and 0:26:01.480 --> 0:26:05.240 I said, this is awesome. Let's see, He's the great 0:26:05.280 --> 0:26:07.919 thing about that is I don't know how great it is. 0:26:07.920 --> 0:26:11.000 It just depends on how you built as a comedian. 0:26:11.000 --> 0:26:14.280 You're going to have those shows. Comedy is not like 0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:17.560 I mean, even musicians have this too, but comedy is 0:26:17.600 --> 0:26:22.280 just you're gonna face whatever they're feeling that day. And 0:26:22.600 --> 0:26:24.879 I've had hundreds of those kind of shows and the 0:26:24.920 --> 0:26:26.879 only thing you could do it leaves you with that 0:26:26.920 --> 0:26:29.199 blood in your mouth if you really about it, you 0:26:29.240 --> 0:26:33.639 said the next crowd next stage, I hit, yeah, I 0:26:33.760 --> 0:26:37.520 have to get it back. Yeah yeah. You in comedy, 0:26:37.560 --> 0:26:41.840 you only feel as esteemed as that last show you did. 0:26:42.680 --> 0:26:45.199 So it's gonna be either low or very high. Is 0:26:45.200 --> 0:26:47.680 this something that would be considered to be a hit 0:26:47.720 --> 0:26:51.440 record in comedy, right, Like that's something that because you 0:26:51.520 --> 0:26:54.280 because that's the other thing you guys have to continue 0:26:54.600 --> 0:26:57.879 to switch up, it would probably haven it would have 0:26:57.920 --> 0:26:59.800 to be no, no, they don't. That's what I'm saying. Well, 0:26:59.800 --> 0:27:03.480 what was that was that? This is that like, here's 0:27:03.480 --> 0:27:05.600 what's crazy like and I want and I want to 0:27:05.640 --> 0:27:09.159 get back to let you answer that question. You know, 0:27:09.560 --> 0:27:12.199 being on the circuit for you know, almost two years now, 0:27:12.240 --> 0:27:14.280 a short time that I've been on it is like 0:27:15.840 --> 0:27:18.439 listen to the guys talk about how the bits that 0:27:18.480 --> 0:27:24.120 they're doing they've been doing for like five seven, eight years, 0:27:25.119 --> 0:27:29.600 And that was strange to me because we do a 0:27:29.600 --> 0:27:33.639 new song every day and so I'm like, so you 0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:36.200 got you're not you're not You're not writing nothing the 0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:38.879 night before and now I've been trying to perfect this 0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:45.199 for five years that same fifteen minutes, let's see, that 0:27:45.440 --> 0:27:47.320 was strange to me. Like, I'm gonna let you, I'm 0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:49.439 gonna let you elaborate all of it because how I 0:27:49.520 --> 0:27:56.240 approach comedy is how I approach music. I'm thinking of 0:27:56.280 --> 0:27:59.920 it in terms of a project. So I'm I'm bill 0:28:00.240 --> 0:28:07.000 material to build into a project to record it, get 0:28:07.040 --> 0:28:10.800 it to the people, and then get to the next 0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:14.600 artistic piece. And I'm looking to do that in a 0:28:14.880 --> 0:28:18.719 very short time, versus listening to other comedians who've been 0:28:18.720 --> 0:28:20.960 on a certain way long than me talk about how 0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:24.040 they've been working on the same bits for five, six, 0:28:24.119 --> 0:28:27.520 seven years, and I don't know what's normal. So I'm 0:28:27.560 --> 0:28:29.040 just kind of in the space where I'm just creating 0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:31.920 my own normal or whatever works for me, Like, how 0:28:31.960 --> 0:28:33.760 do you speak to that in terms of how you 0:28:33.800 --> 0:28:37.800 build your content? And then going back to what is 0:28:37.840 --> 0:28:41.880 a hit record in comedy? So similar to you, because 0:28:41.880 --> 0:28:47.840 I come from music first and dance. We're always looking 0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:49.959 to create a new movie move So when I started, 0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:53.600 I was you. I would go to my open mic spot. 0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:56.000 And this was in Charlotte, So open mic ain't like 0:28:56.120 --> 0:28:59.760 in l A. It's one club at this time. It's 0:28:59.800 --> 0:29:03.520 the hottest night in the town. It's Charlotte, so all 0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:07.040 the hornets are there, all you know, pre panthers, it's 0:29:07.800 --> 0:29:15.960 littlets dressed up. This is nine four, ninety five, ninety six, 0:29:16.440 --> 0:29:23.080 ninety seven, right, it's the night like Anthony Mason be 0:29:23.200 --> 0:29:27.239 up in that joint, like just different stars and then 0:29:27.320 --> 0:29:29.160 all the stars from death gam is coming through there. 0:29:29.560 --> 0:29:31.920 So that's the open mic you get to go on 0:29:32.160 --> 0:29:36.479 before earthquake, more centric or you know what I mean. 0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:41.440 And there was no look at my notes while I'm 0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:43.480 doing No, No, you have to perform your ship, so 0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:46.080 I would do. I was conscious of the fact that 0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:48.960 I'm always back on this same stage as often as 0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:50.720 I can be. I want to have a new five 0:29:50.800 --> 0:29:54.640 to seven every time. That was my process, always having 0:29:54.680 --> 0:29:57.320 new ship every notthing. You pull out something you know 0:29:58.400 --> 0:30:01.800 your go to ship. But you I feel like when 0:30:01.840 --> 0:30:04.640 you've got people that's doing the same joke for five 0:30:05.040 --> 0:30:09.760 to eight years, that's to me, that's lazy. Because I 0:30:09.880 --> 0:30:11.960 came back to stand up five years ago and the 0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:14.600 standard special that I'm about to drop is the third 0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:20.320 hour in that five years, right, I was I'm refining, 0:30:20.480 --> 0:30:23.760 I'm recycling, you know, just make it fine tuning. Um. 0:30:24.320 --> 0:30:25.920 And again I'm not saying I'm the best comedian. I'm 0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:28.200 just saying what works for me. What I'm saying. UM, 0:30:29.400 --> 0:30:32.120 But no, I understand what you're saying. Like, I think 0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:34.640 you do have to dig and if you have something 0:30:34.800 --> 0:30:38.280 that's that you know it was gold, you you should 0:30:38.360 --> 0:30:41.280 work on it. I don't think it takes five years, 0:30:41.360 --> 0:30:43.480 but that's me. I don't think it does either. But 0:30:43.960 --> 0:30:47.040 we're also come from a space where this is what 0:30:47.160 --> 0:30:51.320 I also be well, not even constantly being creative. The 0:30:51.480 --> 0:30:54.640 comfort level of being creative in front of people mhm 0:30:55.400 --> 0:31:00.440 is different for us coming from being performers before they 0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:06.000 were comedians. So I'm okay with being creative on stage, 0:31:06.080 --> 0:31:09.120 with writing something in my car or watching two guys 0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:10.600 go before me and said, oh, I need to grab 0:31:10.680 --> 0:31:13.000 some of that right there, and then going on stage 0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:16.280 and just getting right to it because because I'm not 0:31:16.400 --> 0:31:20.240 shaken by the proud the moment, I'm not. I'm not 0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:25.720 shaken by that and growing in the space, I'm not shaken. 0:31:25.960 --> 0:31:30.080 If they don't laugh at that one, unless you let's well, 0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:42.680 my bad LEO is a different cold blood, no unity. 0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:51.360 And I went up there. I went up there with 0:31:51.560 --> 0:31:54.600 the worst outfit to go up there in. It was 0:31:54.680 --> 0:31:57.080 like a floral pajamas, that kind of thing, you know 0:31:57.080 --> 0:31:59.440 what I'm saying. It wasn't at the time, and I 0:31:59.560 --> 0:32:03.560 can't when was that. But first of all, first of all, okay, 0:32:03.800 --> 0:32:07.680 it was. It was a nice albums. Second of all, 0:32:07.880 --> 0:32:11.280 you're gonna be able to all. Here's here's what happened though. 0:32:11.520 --> 0:32:13.400 After I finished going and saying, I cannot think of 0:32:13.520 --> 0:32:17.560 this guy's name a comedian, he's super dope. Uh. He 0:32:17.720 --> 0:32:23.200 came on after me and his first seven minutes or 0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:26.480 about me and my outfit, and I was sitting there. 0:32:29.400 --> 0:32:32.440 So you didn't leave either, No, I stayed to endure. 0:32:33.320 --> 0:32:36.600 I had to take it, and I laughed. His first 0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:42.480 seven minutes were amazing about you, about me, he was like, 0:32:42.720 --> 0:32:44.320 but he remember a little. He was like, He's like, 0:32:45.440 --> 0:32:47.160 it's like Christmas is gonna call me down here to 0:32:47.640 --> 0:32:52.240 to to to to do comedy in INGLESA. I'm not 0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:54.400 coming all the way down. There's no way I'm coming down. 0:32:55.160 --> 0:32:57.280 The Queenland needs you said, you know what, I'll come 0:32:57.360 --> 0:32:59.520 down Inglewood, but I need a few things. I got 0:32:59.600 --> 0:33:01.120 a few. This is don't way I come. Don't only 0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:03.040 way I come down to Inglewood is if you get 0:33:03.120 --> 0:33:05.120 Tank on stage and the two pieces of Jama said 0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:11.320 doing coming like Nigga for seven minutes. I was like, 0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:22.040 the giggles, it's expensive, don't the Christian Loubaton baby faces 0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:26.040 behind me. He said that took courage. Wait baby Face 0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:31.480 was there. You didn't tell me that. Why was baby Face? 0:33:31.800 --> 0:33:35.040 It was something it was somebody's birthday or something that 0:33:35.120 --> 0:33:36.920 he knew. So he was there. A few other people 0:33:36.960 --> 0:33:40.880 were there and they were like, they're like, okay you wow. 0:33:42.040 --> 0:33:45.040 Breathe was there. She went up, She went up and 0:33:45.080 --> 0:33:49.160 did comment, She did a set herself, was fire watching her. 0:33:49.240 --> 0:33:51.160 She killed it. But I came back and said she 0:33:51.280 --> 0:33:55.240 was like, tap your knee, give me a knee. That's 0:33:55.280 --> 0:34:00.200 like take your time in jerky. And that's what low 0:34:00.640 --> 0:34:05.680 of of comedy, because whatever happens on that stage, you 0:34:05.880 --> 0:34:08.960 have to use it. Yeah, if you're the host, if 0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:13.760 you're next, all right, I've been. I've been to seven 0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:16.400 minute nigger. Well I had to sit back and just 0:34:16.560 --> 0:34:19.320 eat that and niggas coming on after me and just 0:34:19.520 --> 0:34:26.040 roasting my bomb. And then I've been you know, like 0:34:26.120 --> 0:34:27.800 you ain't had to do the thing like that. I 0:34:27.920 --> 0:34:32.160 watched who was that? What's my guy? Actually? Larry Donna 0:34:32.280 --> 0:34:37.160 Rowlins that problem. So I watched Donna, so hist him. 0:34:38.080 --> 0:34:42.080 I bomb the guy that comes after me, No, non 0:34:42.160 --> 0:34:45.560 tell that the guy that comes after me. I didn't bomb. 0:34:45.600 --> 0:34:47.920 I just didn't do well. Bomb bro your mom. I 0:34:48.000 --> 0:34:50.120 promised it wasn't a bomb because the guy after me bombed. 0:34:50.600 --> 0:34:53.319 I'm pretty sure Christ mean, no, he didn't take your problem. 0:34:53.760 --> 0:34:58.040 The guy after me bombed like it was bad. This 0:34:58.080 --> 0:35:00.239 is the same name. Okay, guy after me, the guy 0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:03.120 after him as the guy who came and gave me. Wait, 0:35:04.120 --> 0:35:07.200 I said, the whole night, what you mean, it's what 0:35:07.280 --> 0:35:10.200 it was? What's what it was? When you when you're 0:35:10.239 --> 0:35:12.080 going home and you're get in your car right after 0:35:12.120 --> 0:35:14.319 the bomb, you got too much time to think about 0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:19.240 the bomb and so so and so and so Danielle 0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:21.279 had to go after I cannot think of it now. 0:35:21.320 --> 0:35:23.880 He's a monster. How you go with this guy? And 0:35:24.080 --> 0:35:30.560 Danielle kind of like bombed And I was like, but 0:35:33.040 --> 0:35:35.320 he didn't she been that on here? Now when he 0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:39.000 sees he was drinking, he had been drinking, he don't know. 0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:41.120 But then he came to me after the after the 0:35:41.160 --> 0:35:43.680 show and was like, yeah, that's how this should go. Sometimes. 0:35:44.160 --> 0:35:45.800 You know what I'm saying, Like, you gotta stay. I 0:35:45.920 --> 0:35:47.600 like what you're doing too. I see what you're doing. 0:35:47.719 --> 0:35:49.560 You know what I'm saying. You gotta stay on this ship, nigga. 0:35:49.680 --> 0:35:51.360 And then you gotta the nigga was just giving me 0:35:51.480 --> 0:35:54.239 like fifteen minutes full of bars. You know what I'm saying, 0:35:54.800 --> 0:35:56.320 you need to and if you need my help, nigga, 0:35:56.400 --> 0:35:58.680 you can get me. Nigga. I know what I know. 0:35:58.880 --> 0:36:00.960 The ship you need, nig you you got some ship. 0:36:01.040 --> 0:36:02.759 But I know she like and I was just taking 0:36:02.760 --> 0:36:04.760 sessions and Lessen's from the niggers. That's why I stayed 0:36:05.560 --> 0:36:08.120 so I could get the information. I wouldn't got be 0:36:08.200 --> 0:36:12.680 on the four or five, right, you know you shot 0:36:12.719 --> 0:36:15.279 two times in the air as I was pulling off, 0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:19.479 y'all real quick, just real quick the club, real quick, 0:36:19.560 --> 0:36:22.080 like you know, take you at the club man. But 0:36:22.760 --> 0:36:25.440 seeing Danielle, but seeing him in a space where and 0:36:25.520 --> 0:36:27.719 let me not say he kind of bombs. He was 0:36:27.880 --> 0:36:30.799 literally just up there doing him and didn't give a fuck, 0:36:31.040 --> 0:36:34.359 right like, he didn't give a fuck, Like he ran 0:36:34.440 --> 0:36:37.880 one joke for like eight minutes. I've definitely sing just 0:36:38.760 --> 0:36:45.759 beneath Me night. He just didn't. And I just that's 0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:48.759 that's kind of what he was on. So to get 0:36:49.040 --> 0:36:51.680 bars from him like that, and then I can't when 0:36:51.680 --> 0:36:53.160 I remember my guy and tell you who he was, 0:36:53.239 --> 0:36:55.800 to get bars from him, and and even breeze. He 0:36:55.960 --> 0:36:57.840 was supportive. She's like this, she's gonna be gonna be 0:36:57.840 --> 0:37:00.759 all right, don't be all right what you're doing, you 0:37:00.800 --> 0:37:02.600 know what I'm saying. Like that was the first moment 0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:07.440 of you know, kind of tasting that defeat and completely 0:37:07.560 --> 0:37:10.320 understanding this is gonna be This is gonna be a 0:37:10.400 --> 0:37:13.640 long row. This's gonna be a long process to getting 0:37:13.640 --> 0:37:17.760 to the point to where not even you're just welcome, 0:37:17.880 --> 0:37:20.400 more than welcome space, but that you're respected in the space, 0:37:20.840 --> 0:37:22.799 you know what I'm saying. And so I said, well, ship, 0:37:22.920 --> 0:37:26.680 let's get it. Yeah, let's work. It's all work what 0:37:26.719 --> 0:37:31.600 I'm saying. So ain't There's another question I have? How 0:37:31.680 --> 0:37:35.799 does it feel to be like the resident light skin 0:37:36.000 --> 0:37:41.200 sub in the movies? How is it that is like 0:37:45.760 --> 0:37:52.680 the quan like like how like when what have you done? 0:37:53.160 --> 0:37:57.279 What have you done to become? You know what it is. 0:37:58.560 --> 0:38:00.920 I'm not a threat to anybody. Okay, so they know 0:38:01.120 --> 0:38:03.800 that I could play the funny the you know what 0:38:03.800 --> 0:38:07.719 I mean, because I'm not. I'm not that guy that's 0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:09.399 like at the club trying to be the light skin 0:38:09.480 --> 0:38:11.759 hard nigger. You know what I'm saying. Um, I'm just 0:38:12.000 --> 0:38:16.040 I'm not ever had corn rolls. No, It's always funny 0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:18.760 to see the extra had dreads, but dread is difficult 0:38:19.600 --> 0:38:23.320 with the corn rolls. It's like I've never been Tyler 0:38:23.360 --> 0:38:26.800 Ferry corn rolls man. I hope you never had a Doults. 0:38:27.280 --> 0:38:35.120 I've never had the latest front rolls. More. That's your 0:38:35.200 --> 0:38:41.680 Morrow Moore package with the Mesh hero. You asked me 0:38:41.719 --> 0:38:46.520 something about what islam? Oh yeah, ship we jumped yeah, um, 0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:50.960 in in stand up or comedy in general general, think like, 0:38:51.000 --> 0:38:53.600 what's equivalent to that? I think that's something you can 0:38:53.640 --> 0:38:56.719 just like the movie, get put on and be because 0:38:56.760 --> 0:38:59.719 if you become a movie star, yeah, now you're going 0:38:59.800 --> 0:39:03.000 to a comedy club or you have a big standard. Yeah. 0:39:03.160 --> 0:39:05.800 To me, that's that's the equivalent of that. Um. And 0:39:05.840 --> 0:39:09.160 then you know, you know immediately how you've affected the 0:39:09.280 --> 0:39:12.200 world when you're go on towards m hmm. Yeah, you 0:39:12.280 --> 0:39:15.120 know exactly when they're showing up. Yeah, you're like, okay, 0:39:15.560 --> 0:39:18.719 I made a I made a dent in this thing. 0:39:19.760 --> 0:39:23.560 I get yeah, okay, so definitely definitely movie. So you're 0:39:23.600 --> 0:39:28.560 being the lights resident thug, Like, how is that for you? 0:39:28.719 --> 0:39:30.840 Is that? That's like I don't even think about it. 0:39:30.920 --> 0:39:32.759 It's not until you said it that I'm like, I 0:39:32.880 --> 0:39:39.799 do play a lot of funny thugs those different ship too, 0:39:40.640 --> 0:39:46.680 but those are yeah, those are something sticks when you 0:39:46.760 --> 0:39:50.880 do those characters. Because the interesting thing with all of 0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:54.120 those characters, yes, the the one thing that connects him 0:39:54.160 --> 0:39:57.720 is that, yes, the light skin thug right who who's 0:39:57.760 --> 0:40:02.840 just overly thubbed out goofy right, But they're not the 0:40:03.040 --> 0:40:08.240 same person like Ray Raid and the Kwan and Lester 0:40:08.440 --> 0:40:12.280 are not the same person people, which is so interesting 0:40:12.360 --> 0:40:16.200 to me because it's based around the same thing. And 0:40:16.320 --> 0:40:18.200 that's that's that's a trip to me what people are. 0:40:18.440 --> 0:40:21.319 Those characters are all from different places. But I think, 0:40:22.120 --> 0:40:25.320 and this is a blessing, is I have a relatability 0:40:26.000 --> 0:40:28.920 that thugs funk with. When the people in the street 0:40:30.360 --> 0:40:32.480 see you and they and they say, Nigga, that ship 0:40:32.560 --> 0:40:35.680 you're doing, that ship had me and my niggas rolling. 0:40:36.320 --> 0:40:39.839 When the niggas is in your in your comedy wave, 0:40:42.880 --> 0:40:45.080 the niggas fun with you. And again I thank God 0:40:45.160 --> 0:40:48.520 for this because I love my people. To be loved 0:40:48.560 --> 0:40:52.000 by the masses is great, but your people are gonna 0:40:52.080 --> 0:40:55.520 ride with you the whole way. They're just gonna ride 0:40:55.560 --> 0:40:59.240 with you. And so the characters have that through line. 0:40:59.680 --> 0:41:01.839 It's think about Ray Ray that they're just like, yo, 0:41:01.960 --> 0:41:05.640 this nigga is just we know he ain't a real gangster, 0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:07.480 but it's something about him that's like a nigger. I 0:41:07.600 --> 0:41:11.640 know about to say, because even as as as as 0:41:11.840 --> 0:41:15.000 as crazy as you go with the character, there is 0:41:15.160 --> 0:41:27.920 still somebody like that, mother who you are. We have 0:41:28.040 --> 0:41:33.840 seen the thug they get flinched and the yeah we 0:41:34.040 --> 0:41:36.680 said it absolutely, but yeah, it's a blessing to have 0:41:36.880 --> 0:41:42.120 that that connectivity with the streets. So what is your 0:41:42.160 --> 0:41:45.839 build as a comedian? Like? What is your like as 0:41:45.920 --> 0:41:51.520 you scroll through um the teachings and the things that 0:41:51.680 --> 0:41:57.560 you've um, the pieces that you've snatched from everywhere to 0:41:57.680 --> 0:42:01.080 build you? What do you radiance? What are the ingredients? 0:42:01.120 --> 0:42:07.839 What are the the Eddie Murphy, Martin Lawrence, All Things 0:42:07.960 --> 0:42:17.760 Wins and Living Color and Robert Townsend, Wow, George Carlin. Um. 0:42:19.760 --> 0:42:22.799 Like I said, All Things Wins includes Jim Carey for sure, 0:42:23.800 --> 0:42:25.520 and that so is that we like the whole physical 0:42:26.200 --> 0:42:31.439 comedy him and Martin, Him and Martin. My my wit, 0:42:32.560 --> 0:42:35.600 the nigga wit that I call it is Eddie. Eddie 0:42:35.680 --> 0:42:39.120 was the first guy that was nigga in the time 0:42:39.200 --> 0:42:45.320 when niggas most he said, because they knew Brooke was 0:42:45.320 --> 0:42:49.000 gonna get fucked that night. M hmm. He said that. 0:42:49.239 --> 0:42:52.600 He said, they was nervous about me taking Brooks Shields 0:42:52.800 --> 0:42:55.360 to the awards. They was cool with Mike doing it, 0:42:56.280 --> 0:42:58.839 but when I was gonna do it, they knew Brooke 0:42:58.920 --> 0:43:10.000 was gonna get So that's where I got my my 0:43:10.360 --> 0:43:15.320 nigga funny Eddie. That's that's the beginning of it. And 0:43:15.440 --> 0:43:17.759 then of course it's Bernie MC. There's Robin Harris, there's 0:43:18.280 --> 0:43:21.960 you know, I study goats. Chris Rock is one of 0:43:22.000 --> 0:43:25.520 my favorites when I'm on stage. I used the whole 0:43:25.560 --> 0:43:31.080 stage because of Chris Rock. Hands and um, where's your 0:43:31.120 --> 0:43:36.120 Who's your favorite stand up or comedian? Specifically my favorite 0:43:36.160 --> 0:43:39.839 of all times Eddie? Like of all time, it's it's Eddie. 0:43:39.960 --> 0:43:42.640 It's my favorite of all time. Anyone have a better 0:43:42.800 --> 0:43:46.880 stand up than that? And you open this is your opinion? 0:43:46.880 --> 0:43:49.160 I don't know. I mean because to me, no one, 0:43:49.320 --> 0:43:55.439 no one but has two specials and he's launched into 0:43:55.640 --> 0:43:59.399 forever start on. That's he's the goat. Yeah, it's hard 0:43:59.440 --> 0:44:01.120 to it's hard to talk against that. You just gotta 0:44:01.360 --> 0:44:04.040 leave that where it is. They don't have a bad one. 0:44:04.760 --> 0:44:07.799 Like everybody got a questionable You gotta leave those there, 0:44:07.920 --> 0:44:09.920 leave Eddie there, and they talk about everybody else. He 0:44:10.080 --> 0:44:13.560 has two classics, classics, right, the guys that have done 0:44:13.600 --> 0:44:16.320 more than him. You've done so many that you have 0:44:16.520 --> 0:44:19.480 time to have a bad one. You have the volume 0:44:19.600 --> 0:44:22.439 to have a bad one. Which I don't knock that either. 0:44:22.880 --> 0:44:26.560 There's output in that. But this, man, some of the 0:44:26.600 --> 0:44:29.879 most classic movies is Eddie. We're not even talking about 0:44:29.880 --> 0:44:42.640 the standard speciallygraphy hours to America Oscar worthy material, Oscar worthy. 0:44:42.760 --> 0:44:52.839 The clumps went into Oscar worthy? What was my other one? Uh? Listen, 0:44:53.360 --> 0:44:56.920 come on, man, he is the goat. He is the goat. 0:44:57.280 --> 0:44:59.680 There's no Oscar for comedy though, right there needs to 0:44:59.719 --> 0:45:04.040 be somebody. I think they're gonna create it, and they 0:45:04.640 --> 0:45:08.600 and they need to retro actively give Eddie Murphy ten 0:45:09.440 --> 0:45:13.399 ten of them, you know, and let all niggas out 0:45:13.480 --> 0:45:16.359 that got weed charges since it's legal, not that's coming. 0:45:16.680 --> 0:45:19.520 That's that's the two active things I need to have. 0:45:20.160 --> 0:45:23.360 But give Eddie his flowers and his motherfucking awards because 0:45:23.360 --> 0:45:25.879 he's better than all of them, man, all the ones 0:45:25.920 --> 0:45:28.799 that they try to well, he's the easy easy. He's 0:45:28.840 --> 0:45:32.960 the prototype for everything that I think every comedian is hope. 0:45:32.960 --> 0:45:35.960 Everyone damn come after him has tried to do it. 0:45:36.080 --> 0:45:40.279 The only person to push that line, I think a 0:45:40.360 --> 0:45:46.640 bit further Jamie fox Yeah, well he's another, He's another 0:45:46.960 --> 0:45:52.120 one of those creatures. Jamie is an alien genius. Um, 0:45:53.120 --> 0:45:55.520 he's one of my favorites, one of my favorites, but 0:45:55.560 --> 0:45:59.480 again he's my number two. Come from it, right, he's 0:45:59.520 --> 0:46:03.200 from that and what he's in a class by himself 0:46:03.480 --> 0:46:05.759 because Jamie has been able to do and he's the 0:46:05.920 --> 0:46:08.959 only one that has been able to do what even 0:46:09.280 --> 0:46:13.880 Eddie wanted to do, and that is be a successful musician, artist, 0:46:14.360 --> 0:46:17.520 at the top of every food chain. He has an 0:46:17.600 --> 0:46:22.960 award he has, he has Oscar, Oscar, Grammy, Tony whatever 0:46:24.360 --> 0:46:30.919 wouldn't be Ammy is Emmy, Oscar, Grammy and a bunch 0:46:30.960 --> 0:46:38.200 of other stuff. Yeah. That And there's three people that 0:46:38.360 --> 0:46:43.880 I say are the best storytellers, um, that I've ever heard. 0:46:44.840 --> 0:46:49.440 Two I've been around, um Bill Cosby, Jamie Foxx and 0:46:49.520 --> 0:46:55.640 Charlie Murphy. Storytelling impeccable Charlie Murphy. And I didn't know Tarlie, 0:46:56.239 --> 0:46:58.680 think me Charlie Murphy. But watching him tell those stories 0:46:59.440 --> 0:47:03.960 on the ship, hell shall that was that was history. Bro. Well, 0:47:04.040 --> 0:47:06.160 I I'm here to tell you as a as a friend, 0:47:06.520 --> 0:47:11.160 Charlie Murphy, that's just what he does. I've heard so 0:47:11.320 --> 0:47:14.000 many stories that will never see the light of day 0:47:14.320 --> 0:47:24.600 because it just show this motherfucking man that switch. You 0:47:24.680 --> 0:47:26.040 know him, but to think is bad. It just snick 0:47:26.040 --> 0:47:31.200 ahead of shower pipe underneath this he his hose with it. 0:47:33.040 --> 0:47:34.880 What he had to sell a pipe on his jagget 0:47:35.080 --> 0:47:37.680 and sucked his hose with it. Come, my dick, don't work. 0:47:38.560 --> 0:47:41.920 But I love him, you know what I'm saying? No, 0:47:43.360 --> 0:47:50.680 why just and and to that, like a guy like 0:47:50.800 --> 0:47:54.399 Charlie Murphy, there could never be another one of him. Well, 0:47:54.880 --> 0:47:56.239 but I'm about to speak on like a guy like 0:47:56.320 --> 0:48:04.200 Charlie Murphy, a guy like um Um Bernie mack Um, 0:48:04.880 --> 0:48:10.880 guys like that who have funny ship about him already 0:48:11.400 --> 0:48:16.160 right right, right, right right, You're already funny without doing 0:48:16.360 --> 0:48:20.440 comedy like you could just fun just funny guys. They 0:48:20.560 --> 0:48:22.200 just look as soon as you look at Don Rob 0:48:22.520 --> 0:48:27.480 like man. The reason why I said it couldn't be 0:48:27.480 --> 0:48:30.720 another Charlie though, is because he had the cheat code. 0:48:32.239 --> 0:48:37.960 Brother was the most famous, funniest on the planet, right, 0:48:38.040 --> 0:48:39.920 and he got to just be a fly on the 0:48:40.120 --> 0:48:44.719 wall and experienced all the things that Eddie kind of 0:48:44.800 --> 0:48:48.200 couldn't because he's the start. But he wasn't even just 0:48:48.320 --> 0:48:52.239 the homie. This is my brother, my brother. Yeah, I 0:48:52.320 --> 0:49:04.560 got access. Yeah, I was Brooks too on everything, you 0:49:04.600 --> 0:49:07.480 know what I'm saying. So it's like for him it 0:49:07.600 --> 0:49:10.360 was different. That's why. That's why when they did the 0:49:10.440 --> 0:49:13.239 Chappelle thing, it just it was so genius because it 0:49:13.400 --> 0:49:18.640 was his access, yeah, like and the beauty and it 0:49:18.840 --> 0:49:22.279 is that Charlie was his own thing. He was right, 0:49:22.440 --> 0:49:27.080 he wasn't. But he's nothing like Eddie. Right, there's nothing 0:49:27.160 --> 0:49:29.759 like each other, you know what I'm saying. And that's 0:49:29.800 --> 0:49:32.720 what I also respect about the ways family them niggas 0:49:32.719 --> 0:49:40.520 is all in terms of Collis Collis Comedics Family of 0:49:40.640 --> 0:49:57.799 all time, the same way how Rizza had every one 0:49:57.880 --> 0:50:02.000 of the Woods thing with their own label deep he 0:50:02.200 --> 0:50:07.239 diversified it. I watched when I watched Marlon Winds in 0:50:07.400 --> 0:50:12.480 this in the scary was the scary movie when when 0:50:13.440 --> 0:50:17.640 he was in the bed by himself and he acted 0:50:17.680 --> 0:50:25.200 out the ghosts raping him. Oh that I screamed when 0:50:25.239 --> 0:50:30.359 I saw school, I screamed for about an hour time. 0:50:30.480 --> 0:50:32.520 When you went to see that, you got it, I 0:50:32.600 --> 0:50:36.360 was like, what is wrong with this? In the same movie, 0:50:36.719 --> 0:50:41.600 heu a teddy bear like he was full on sweating 0:50:41.880 --> 0:50:48.560 it's And then you got Damnon who was in cup 0:50:48.680 --> 0:50:54.680 made up had funny parts in color colors like Who's 0:50:54.840 --> 0:51:01.760 also one of the legendary like one of my Keenan 0:51:02.120 --> 0:51:10.640 Keenan Ivory wins. He is literally saving your family. Looks 0:51:10.680 --> 0:51:16.000 like right, he's nepotism done the right way. What him 0:51:16.040 --> 0:51:18.359 and Joe Jackson at this point, I mean, I'm gonna 0:51:18.360 --> 0:51:20.600 give it to Kean. I'm gonna get and I'm gonna 0:51:20.640 --> 0:51:22.520 say why. I'm gonna say, I'm gonna give it to 0:51:22.640 --> 0:51:26.719 Keenan because Keenan was the person who could who could 0:51:27.440 --> 0:51:34.120 create the opportunities right, like Joe Jackson created the stars right. 0:51:34.200 --> 0:51:36.920 But he wasn't. He wasn't Berry Gordy though, you know 0:51:37.000 --> 0:51:40.160 what I'm saying. So Kenny Keenan Ivery Wains is Joe 0:51:40.239 --> 0:51:44.000 Jackson and Berry Gordy all in one. Yeah, because the 0:51:44.239 --> 0:51:47.600 way they all operate, Like whoever has a network TV show, 0:51:47.880 --> 0:51:54.840 you're gonna see eight wins, period music, whatever, Uh, rotten 0:51:54.960 --> 0:51:59.800 standing guests. Nobody's done it like them nobody If no, 0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:02.080 you watching that and sees that there's a blueprint and 0:52:02.120 --> 0:52:04.959 it's his brain child, it's from him a thousand percent. 0:52:06.040 --> 0:52:08.640 That's that's incredible. And the fact that like I was, 0:52:08.760 --> 0:52:11.000 I think I was watching it randomly, was it raw 0:52:11.200 --> 0:52:14.839 or delirious that he wrote off raw him and um, 0:52:15.280 --> 0:52:18.560 it's another it's Robert Towns and Robert Townsend. Um they 0:52:18.760 --> 0:52:22.400 co wrote the sketch in the beginning. But I mean 0:52:22.560 --> 0:52:24.759 being around Eddie at that time, you know we tag 0:52:24.920 --> 0:52:27.440 each other joke. I'm sure that they had some you know, 0:52:27.600 --> 0:52:30.240 some more input in name, but to see their names 0:52:30.280 --> 0:52:34.960 on that was like on raw raw, Yeah, this is 0:52:35.080 --> 0:52:37.760 and then not to mention Hollywood Shuffle, like that's Robert 0:52:37.800 --> 0:52:42.359 Towns was in his bag and sketch show Man where 0:52:42.440 --> 0:52:46.080 John Witherspoon came from, and a whole lot of other 0:52:46.600 --> 0:52:48.160 David Allen Greer I think was on in a couple 0:52:48.200 --> 0:52:55.319 of Monster Monster Monster. Yeah, we've been blessed man we've 0:52:55.320 --> 0:52:59.960 been blessed. We were blessed because comedy or in terms 0:53:00.000 --> 0:53:01.960 of the people I think who are getting on in 0:53:02.040 --> 0:53:06.640 a comedic space today, it's different. It's different. That's actually 0:53:06.640 --> 0:53:08.920 a segue into me wanting to know your thoughts on 0:53:09.000 --> 0:53:12.680 insta comedy. I just I just had a panel discussion 0:53:12.680 --> 0:53:16.279 today with about insta comedy, not insta comedy, but with 0:53:16.480 --> 0:53:18.520 DC Young Fly. He and I want the same panel 0:53:19.040 --> 0:53:24.399 And I always say it like this, Um, I don't 0:53:24.440 --> 0:53:27.880 care what the platform or the era. There's good niggas 0:53:27.920 --> 0:53:31.800 and there's garbage niggas, right, fair enough. So when it 0:53:31.840 --> 0:53:34.880 comes to the insta social media and people like, ah, 0:53:35.000 --> 0:53:37.600 that ain't real, that sh it. Ain't they cheating? It's 0:53:37.640 --> 0:53:41.120 too simple. It's too they're not really doing uh, they 0:53:41.280 --> 0:53:45.200 put in the time in the work. If that was 0:53:45.280 --> 0:53:49.840 the mentality that was that prevailed, prevailed in the seventies, 0:53:50.080 --> 0:53:53.440 we wouldn't have hip hop because all them bands, all 0:53:53.480 --> 0:53:56.680 them seventies bands, that was music theory part of it, 0:53:56.800 --> 0:53:59.279 and part of it wasn't their mentality though. No, But 0:53:59.360 --> 0:54:02.319 what I'm saying, if if, if it would have succeeded 0:54:02.880 --> 0:54:05.960 and they were able to shut down these niggas that's 0:54:06.000 --> 0:54:10.440 taken out records and saying word yeah it's hippity hop. 0:54:10.719 --> 0:54:14.120 They cheat it. We learned the instruments. How are you 0:54:14.120 --> 0:54:16.440 gonna take my vinyl and you're gonna say some bullshit 0:54:16.600 --> 0:54:18.200 over you know what I mean. It was a lot 0:54:18.239 --> 0:54:20.400 of old g that was mad. They were mad. But 0:54:20.480 --> 0:54:22.480 what I'm saying is I'm not gonna be that nigga. 0:54:23.320 --> 0:54:27.840 Now that's overlooking the next wave of hip whatever it is, 0:54:28.120 --> 0:54:34.279 whatever this social media ship is. Get involved. Do you 0:54:34.360 --> 0:54:37.520 think you did that? You did get involved? Yeah, that's 0:54:37.520 --> 0:54:39.640 my mentality. It's like, I'm just gonna I'm gona get involved. 0:54:39.760 --> 0:54:42.760 But for me, when I when I got into comedy 0:54:44.080 --> 0:54:49.080 during the insta comedy era, I didn't I didn't want 0:54:49.080 --> 0:54:53.800 to be I didn't want to be instat funny. I 0:54:53.880 --> 0:54:56.560 wanted to be able to go into a bar with 0:54:57.440 --> 0:55:04.120 seven people and make them laugh, because that's that's how 0:55:04.200 --> 0:55:08.080 the comedians that I appreciate got it. And so I 0:55:08.200 --> 0:55:11.800 felt like there was there was a piece of that 0:55:11.960 --> 0:55:14.000 foundation that I wanted to connect to, a step that 0:55:14.000 --> 0:55:17.520 I didn't want to skip, just personally, just personally, you 0:55:17.600 --> 0:55:19.600 know what I mean. I wanted to connect to that 0:55:20.239 --> 0:55:22.920 for sure, because I just thought because that's because that's 0:55:23.000 --> 0:55:26.160 that's that's how greatness was defined to me, because those 0:55:26.160 --> 0:55:27.879 are the people that I grew up under. And I'm 0:55:27.880 --> 0:55:29.719 not mad at the inst to funny. I get it, 0:55:31.040 --> 0:55:35.239 and you're smart for taking adapting and running with it. 0:55:35.600 --> 0:55:40.360 But here's the thing, as with music, right, the greatest 0:55:40.400 --> 0:55:44.719 ones in hip hop come from music. Nah's dad was 0:55:44.760 --> 0:55:49.840 a jazz musician. Rock him dad jazz musician, um Dr Dreide. 0:55:49.960 --> 0:55:54.320 He plays like the ones that still want to go 0:55:54.520 --> 0:55:58.000 learn the foundation of musical perfecting, the crack really perfecting. 0:55:58.040 --> 0:55:59.560 They're the ones that's going to be around for a 0:55:59.680 --> 0:56:02.759 long time and have been around for decades. So you 0:56:02.880 --> 0:56:05.640 are cut from that claude. I am cut from that claude, 0:56:06.040 --> 0:56:10.080 Like I'm not being We're not insta funny already. We 0:56:10.200 --> 0:56:12.880 are already niggas that got the tools to get on 0:56:13.040 --> 0:56:17.080 stage and perform. We know how to move a crowd, right, 0:56:17.520 --> 0:56:21.400 We're just using Instagram as an extra platform add to 0:56:21.560 --> 0:56:24.840 our arsenal. It's not all we have, you know what 0:56:24.880 --> 0:56:28.000 I mean. But what I say about that is get involved, 0:56:28.080 --> 0:56:31.680 Like get involved, don't shun it. Don't look at these 0:56:31.800 --> 0:56:33.759 niggas that you think is not funny and they're on 0:56:33.880 --> 0:56:39.200 Instagram doing comedy. Some of them niggas is hilarious. It's 0:56:39.280 --> 0:56:41.880 up to them to want to take it. For me 0:56:42.040 --> 0:56:46.000 as a consumer, are a fan even um, there are 0:56:46.040 --> 0:56:48.239 certain pages that I just go to. I want to 0:56:48.320 --> 0:56:51.920 see what the right what the new post of this 0:56:52.000 --> 0:56:54.040 guy from a spice Adam to a highihday this to 0:56:54.120 --> 0:56:57.520 a d C comedian though you know what I mean? 0:56:57.840 --> 0:56:59.680 Or like when be Sa moaning and was doing all 0:56:59.719 --> 0:57:01.839 of that, they skits and you know what I'm saying, 0:57:01.880 --> 0:57:06.920 like the Desy Banks you having me hollering, Yeah, like 0:57:08.120 --> 0:57:11.759 there's something to that and it's very important for us, 0:57:11.840 --> 0:57:14.960 you know what I mean, Like I because and and 0:57:15.239 --> 0:57:17.560 maybe I'm not a comedian so I wouldn't know, So 0:57:17.640 --> 0:57:21.800 I ask you someone being able to get something off 0:57:21.920 --> 0:57:24.840 like that in a minute seems harder to me because 0:57:24.920 --> 0:57:27.560 it's not like they can really drag the joke out 0:57:27.640 --> 0:57:30.360 and it's no you know, with the punchline type of thing. 0:57:30.440 --> 0:57:35.040 It's more so like you can't edit. But making something 0:57:35.160 --> 0:57:39.400 funny in a minute it's hard though. No it's not 0:57:39.560 --> 0:57:41.720 because I think, but like this, I feel like it's better. 0:57:41.960 --> 0:57:44.400 It's you can. You can. It's like it's like it's 0:57:44.440 --> 0:57:48.600 like doing theater versus doing a TV show. Okay, you 0:57:48.640 --> 0:57:51.520 can edit ed you on theater when you're doing theater. 0:57:51.720 --> 0:57:54.120 Get off. You can't. You can't, you can't. Want and done. 0:57:55.360 --> 0:57:57.760 You got your you got your lines right now. There 0:57:57.920 --> 0:58:00.560 is no break character, there is no do over. You 0:58:00.640 --> 0:58:03.880 get to curate that one minute that you're creating on Instagram. 0:58:04.080 --> 0:58:06.320 You get I don't like that one Let me get 0:58:06.360 --> 0:58:08.680 to this faster out there it is you get to 0:58:08.680 --> 0:58:11.560 show people. Is that it? That? Ain't it what I 0:58:11.680 --> 0:58:16.440 need to do? Okay? There's the editing process to getting 0:58:16.600 --> 0:58:20.080 a good take for Instagram versus getting on that stage 0:58:20.960 --> 0:58:30.720 at the laugh Factory for an Inglewood. Yeah. And that's 0:58:30.760 --> 0:58:35.080 really it always boils down to you gotta know how 0:58:35.120 --> 0:58:37.200 to do it all, you know what I mean. You 0:58:37.280 --> 0:58:39.920 can't just be a sprinter. You gotta get some marathon 0:58:41.000 --> 0:58:43.600 in your loan. You know. I can get on stage 0:58:43.640 --> 0:58:48.040 for an hour twenty and be comfortable in that. I'm 0:58:48.160 --> 0:58:50.360 endured for that hour. I know what that's like. I've 0:58:50.400 --> 0:58:55.240 done back to back hours in in the same night. Right. Um, 0:58:55.480 --> 0:58:58.320 I can get on and do a fifteen second reel 0:58:58.440 --> 0:59:02.360 on I g get up, do a dance move or character, 0:59:02.640 --> 0:59:05.120 or me and Spice can get on the improv for 0:59:05.160 --> 0:59:08.240 a whole hour and a half, whatever it is. I'm 0:59:08.280 --> 0:59:12.040 comfortable because I've taken the time to play in all 0:59:12.200 --> 0:59:16.800 of those. You build your foundation in the joint. If 0:59:16.840 --> 0:59:20.080 you limited to if you limited to this a minute 0:59:20.640 --> 0:59:23.560 or fifteen seconds, and you talk about you want to 0:59:23.600 --> 0:59:25.600 be a star and you want to expand, and you 0:59:25.640 --> 0:59:27.600 ain't got none of the other training up under. You 0:59:29.280 --> 0:59:31.520 don't pull up on leg day and try to squat 0:59:31.640 --> 0:59:36.680 that goddamn three fifty or whatever is. Don't you god 0:59:36.840 --> 0:59:42.280 damn get on stage somewhere. You're gonna headline an hour 0:59:43.480 --> 0:59:49.080 from from from this you just just saw you there before. Okay, okay, 0:59:53.720 --> 0:59:56.080 But I respect the nigga. Is that respected des I've 0:59:56.080 --> 0:59:58.880 done shows with him. He's funny, but he's learning. He's 0:59:58.920 --> 1:00:03.000 admittedly learning, DC young fly, that nigga got it, but 1:00:03.120 --> 1:00:07.000 he's humble, he's still always studying and learning. I respect him, 1:00:07.040 --> 1:00:09.680 young niggas that says, Let's say, I I know the 1:00:09.760 --> 1:00:12.600 platform that came up on allowed me to get it 1:00:12.640 --> 1:00:16.320 out faster, uh and sooner, But I gotta do the work. 1:00:16.360 --> 1:00:18.280 I gotta I respect these old g s that I 1:00:18.320 --> 1:00:23.760 don't want to, you know, cheapen the arena of Common. 1:00:23.880 --> 1:00:26.360 And I thought it was really cool with Martin was 1:00:26.440 --> 1:00:29.480 doing what he was doing with the youngs. I mean, 1:00:29.560 --> 1:00:31.640 I guess it was like he was hosting, but he 1:00:31.680 --> 1:00:33.600 had like the simone and a couple of other like 1:00:33.800 --> 1:00:37.120 young you know what I mean. Because for somebody like Martin, 1:00:37.160 --> 1:00:39.440 that ship, you know what I'm saying, So for him 1:00:39.520 --> 1:00:43.880 to you know, introduce and that leveled up to my 1:00:43.920 --> 1:00:48.120 standard special salute to the gun. It's in't that it 1:00:48.240 --> 1:00:52.480 made the cut. I had to pay homage. Yeah, I 1:00:52.640 --> 1:00:55.240 hate I had to pay homage. That's I mean, that's 1:00:55.280 --> 1:00:57.360 one of my big heroes. So what is the next one? 1:00:57.400 --> 1:00:59.520 In Roscoe Jenkins was back in the same building. Huh 1:01:00.720 --> 1:01:03.200 what what is the next what is the next death 1:01:03.240 --> 1:01:07.360 comedy jam moment? What do you mean for me? Or period? 1:01:07.480 --> 1:01:12.120 But it is that possible. Here's here's the thing. It 1:01:12.360 --> 1:01:17.760 is possible, I would say to a degree while and 1:01:17.880 --> 1:01:22.880 that was that for me. M hm. Great. You get 1:01:24.480 --> 1:01:28.520 a bunch of raw, hungry comedians together on the same stage, 1:01:29.520 --> 1:01:31.800 especially when we first started. I mean, that's me, d 1:01:32.000 --> 1:01:36.800 Ray Corey holcom Chat Williams, Williams, Williams, you know what 1:01:36.840 --> 1:01:41.600 I'm saying, Like, that's now you have some dogs on that. 1:01:42.000 --> 1:01:44.520 Yeah we was, we was them guys right and then 1:01:44.640 --> 1:01:48.600 now Chico being Carlos Miller, DC Young Fly like them. 1:01:48.680 --> 1:01:53.800 Niggas is animals. They really know their ship. Yeah I 1:01:53.880 --> 1:01:58.520 saw hips. But to me, that is our this generation's 1:01:58.640 --> 1:02:00.920 version of death comedy jam that has a longer span. 1:02:01.480 --> 1:02:02.760 You know, people will be like, oh, it's not the 1:02:02.840 --> 1:02:06.040 same anymore, what all of that? Where else are you 1:02:06.080 --> 1:02:10.400 going to see a show with comedy and rap perfectly 1:02:10.480 --> 1:02:14.800 fused together like Niggas is coming on, They're getting putting 1:02:14.800 --> 1:02:19.000 their careers on snoopers, on their trading raps with comedians 1:02:20.280 --> 1:02:25.680 pnb Rock whoever, like uh luke a fiasco, h vic Mensa, 1:02:26.560 --> 1:02:30.040 Like it's for me, that's our version of deaf comedy 1:02:30.080 --> 1:02:33.160 gam but there can always be another one. It's just 1:02:33.280 --> 1:02:38.600 about the industry getting the funk out the way and 1:02:38.880 --> 1:02:41.200 us saying all right now this We're not gonna keep 1:02:42.000 --> 1:02:44.160 letting them tell us what's funny and what's not. We're 1:02:44.200 --> 1:02:46.760 not gonna wait for the green light. It takes somebody 1:02:46.920 --> 1:02:50.960 daring to say I'm going to create this created and 1:02:51.000 --> 1:02:52.440 shoot it and then I you know, if I need 1:02:52.520 --> 1:02:55.920 to partner with it, our partner period, So it can 1:02:56.000 --> 1:03:00.240 be one. Yeah. Well, if we're not gonna keep you forever, 1:03:00.240 --> 1:03:01.800 I mean, you're welcome to stay in. The guests from 1:03:02.320 --> 1:03:05.600 UM appreciate you. Man J has a special segment of 1:03:05.680 --> 1:03:09.520 this show that he likes to you know, likes to 1:03:09.600 --> 1:03:14.360 call upon our guests to especially someone you know of 1:03:14.480 --> 1:03:18.200 your travels well, travel well travel anything in Germany with 1:03:18.240 --> 1:03:22.840 a karate suit on't I've done some things you've got 1:03:23.280 --> 1:03:26.720 That's a different level. It's a different level of the 1:03:26.720 --> 1:03:30.360 first person I ever met, like your real life karate kid. Yeah, 1:03:30.480 --> 1:03:34.960 you bleed on inside him riding Man, I cannot fight. 1:03:35.120 --> 1:03:42.120 Just let's just be clear, all right, all right? So yeah, 1:03:42.240 --> 1:03:44.160 so of all your travels, man, so we have we 1:03:44.280 --> 1:03:47.440 have a segment of the show. It's called sand No 1:03:47.640 --> 1:03:53.920 Names and the story can either be funny are fucked up, 1:03:56.080 --> 1:04:00.360 but you can't use the people name and can give 1:04:00.440 --> 1:04:02.000 so you know what I mean, he gives some inklings 1:04:02.040 --> 1:04:03.720 on who it might be by the way you tell 1:04:03.800 --> 1:04:05.800 the story, So the people can be trying to figure 1:04:05.840 --> 1:04:10.200 this sh it out, But you cannot say their name. 1:04:10.840 --> 1:04:12.480 I ain't saying on that. I'm gonna just say this 1:04:12.680 --> 1:04:17.680 right here. Mhmm. There's a nigga. If if I said 1:04:17.720 --> 1:04:20.840 his name, I think y'all would run. But when I 1:04:20.920 --> 1:04:23.280 describe him, y'all going to know exactly what what I'm 1:04:23.280 --> 1:04:28.840 talking about. This is a guy who has his face 1:04:29.000 --> 1:04:36.280 wrapped on vans and he always in a fantom. I've 1:04:36.320 --> 1:04:44.800 seen the nigga have billboards around and he's got every 1:04:44.880 --> 1:04:48.520 band danna from every culture and he wraps it in 1:04:48.600 --> 1:04:56.800 the front like Aunt Jemima Paca, are you kidding? And 1:04:58.920 --> 1:05:03.280 he's got photos with like Jack's. He's he's every fucking where, 1:05:03.880 --> 1:05:06.280 and he gets out on the red carpet with the 1:05:07.720 --> 1:05:13.840 adornments high waves, high waves, and the paths will be like, 1:05:14.000 --> 1:05:21.439 what's amazing energy. It's amazing energy. Amazing energy knows every 1:05:22.080 --> 1:05:26.240 I'm always happy to see it. To this day, I 1:05:26.320 --> 1:05:31.160 don't know what the funk he goes. I've always heard 1:05:32.080 --> 1:05:36.360 that he was an artist. I never heard of goddamn song, 1:05:39.240 --> 1:05:51.160 but the freshest newest family Bentley Cooper, Hovercraft. I'm just 1:05:51.320 --> 1:05:56.320 saying these names exist, and uh, I ain't saying no names. 1:05:56.960 --> 1:05:59.439 But that's I don't know if you call that a story, 1:06:00.360 --> 1:06:03.600 but this is this is your mind. It's been on 1:06:03.720 --> 1:06:09.120 your mindorious one. It's great in this, in this, in 1:06:09.280 --> 1:06:12.720 this town. The way you the way you just articulated, 1:06:12.800 --> 1:06:16.200 that would probably be the way all of us would 1:06:16.200 --> 1:06:23.120 have partiulated seating because you know who I'm talking about. Listen, 1:06:23.560 --> 1:06:28.680 A lovely brother, I mean, spirit is amazing, a lovely brother. 1:06:29.080 --> 1:06:35.520 He floats when he walks. It's always blessed, always, and 1:06:36.320 --> 1:06:42.320 conversations always, always great energy. Not a bad thing in 1:06:42.440 --> 1:06:45.520 the world can be said about it. There are only 1:06:45.680 --> 1:06:52.360 questions that can be asked, What do you do? Who 1:06:52.400 --> 1:06:57.960 do you know? Everybody I'm talking about? If Obama's in town, 1:06:59.280 --> 1:07:03.959 he's gonna you right next to him. Yeah, I've seen 1:07:04.040 --> 1:07:07.720 him in places that I just I couldn't get into him. 1:07:08.920 --> 1:07:16.520 How who are you where? This is gonna be part 1:07:16.560 --> 1:07:24.000 of our unsolved mysterious segment When he started deartelling, as 1:07:24.040 --> 1:07:28.360 soon as she started, he was gone. As soon as 1:07:28.400 --> 1:07:31.600 you started here, everybody, Hey, look I got one more. 1:07:31.640 --> 1:07:36.200 I'm gonna yota one more, just one more. Because because 1:07:36.240 --> 1:07:39.040 that wasn't a damn story, it was, though it is 1:07:40.000 --> 1:07:45.480 because I have personal interactions with the guy great energy. 1:07:46.480 --> 1:07:49.840 We've been in many parking lots and hands is moving. 1:07:50.840 --> 1:07:53.360 It's always a parking lot because it's always a whip too, 1:07:53.400 --> 1:07:58.440 though it's always an amazing whip, always standing outside the crap. Right, 1:08:01.160 --> 1:08:03.760 there's always a plan. Let me get your number because 1:08:05.320 --> 1:08:09.080 dot dot dot ellipsies. Right. So it was a story, 1:08:09.120 --> 1:08:13.120 got damnit jay bounce. The other story. I think I 1:08:13.240 --> 1:08:14.840 just said my old name, like I'm in trouble to 1:08:15.640 --> 1:08:29.080 do the principal's office. But no, there's there's a I'm 1:08:29.080 --> 1:08:31.160 not even gonna say the profession. But you're already gonna know. 1:08:33.200 --> 1:08:37.840 There's there's a cat that you know showed. I call 1:08:37.880 --> 1:08:42.080 it the shoulders is always moving, m and you know 1:08:42.760 --> 1:08:44.880 I got the new you know gonna show you was 1:08:45.120 --> 1:08:47.479 the Keynna put the key on the table while we're 1:08:47.520 --> 1:08:50.439 just getting a burger. Yeah, put the lamb again. Man. 1:08:50.479 --> 1:08:58.200 I already know ship always signaling for ship. And it's like, 1:08:58.479 --> 1:09:00.760 all right, I know you I don't know getting it, 1:09:00.960 --> 1:09:08.640 but are you getting it? Because I know niggas that 1:09:08.800 --> 1:09:14.000 do what you do and ain't moving. The shoulders don't 1:09:14.040 --> 1:09:18.120 move as much as yours do. But your shoulders be 1:09:20.840 --> 1:09:27.479 mean saying right. So that's all I'm saying. I'm saying 1:09:27.520 --> 1:09:30.479 on that. Man. If I say anymore, I'm gonna get 1:09:30.520 --> 1:09:36.280 a text. Get a text. You have you have the 1:09:36.439 --> 1:09:44.040 most different and peculiar. Ain't saying if I present scenario, 1:09:45.120 --> 1:09:50.600 not even scenario, Ladies and Jeal, this has been the 1:09:50.760 --> 1:09:55.559 everybody podcast. Brother a fan in the building, then thank 1:09:55.600 --> 1:09:59.120 you for coming through and uh and rocking with your partners. 1:09:59.160 --> 1:10:01.639 I'm I'm tanking about the same, Jay Valentine, but clearly 1:10:01.640 --> 1:10:04.559 I'm not Ava had On. Um, this is my hair. 1:10:05.920 --> 1:10:07.560 This is what I'm doing. We ain't out with me 1:10:07.640 --> 1:10:11.000 for a little bit back three and a half ways, 1:10:11.080 --> 1:10:13.160 you know what that's gone working around with the Valentine. 1:10:13.200 --> 1:10:15.519 So I'm taking and this is Jay Valentine. We are 1:10:15.560 --> 1:10:18.679 the authorities on the music. 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