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Speaker 1: Revere, Revere Dalks.

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Speaker 2: Look at us now, tip to Tim. This is our life,

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Speaker 2: this is our passion. That's the spirit we bring to

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Speaker 2: this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this morning combat. Oh it's Wednesday, It's hump Day,

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Speaker 1: It's MK Day. It's time to get it all started

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Speaker 1: here on this second of March twenty twenty two. Hello everyone,

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Speaker 1: I am merely one half of your hosting duell. My

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Speaker 1: name is Luke Thomas. I join you from the capital

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Speaker 1: of It's not as Wendos here in Washington, DC, and

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Speaker 1: I am joined by the Viceroy of Connecticut. Until Glover

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Speaker 1: Tesera renounces his belt or otherwise loses it, he can

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Speaker 1: only be the Viceroy, but soon he will be king.

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Speaker 1: It is my friend and yours. It is Brian Campbell. Hello,

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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell. How are you look?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great? Do you want to know why? Specifically?

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Speaker 1: Sure?

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Speaker 2: Remember that time you hinted that I might be racist

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Speaker 2: for not celebrating customs or holidays of other cultures. Well,

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Speaker 2: yesterday Luke was fat Tuesday. And while we know what

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Speaker 2: that means for Marti Gras in the Polish community, that

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Speaker 2: means it's Pongeki season Byach. So, Luke, I went to

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Speaker 2: Big Y and there was this giant sign with these

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Speaker 2: massive donuts, you know this big and I bought a

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Speaker 2: six pack of them, dude, filled with Bavarian cream, and

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Speaker 2: oh god, look, I have so much Polish sugar in

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Speaker 2: my system right now. I'm like Yon Blohovich without the

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Speaker 2: hanging rope around his neck from the trees. You know

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Speaker 2: what I'm talking about, Luke?

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Speaker 1: Okay? I could I could imagine you going up there

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Speaker 1: like Kenny Powers, buying the donuts and then telling everyone

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Speaker 1: to stop Asian hate when you left this like that?

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Speaker 2: Okay, Luke, if you ain't had a fresh pounchki, I mean,

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Speaker 2: are you? Are you really a real fat guy?

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Speaker 3: Look?

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Speaker 1: Are you right?

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Speaker 2: I mean, do you really know what's up?

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying now, I'll be honest, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if I've ever had one. How would you

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Speaker 1: describe these are basically Polish donuts? Is that the ip?

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Speaker 2: We describe it as a true additional donut on steroids?

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Speaker 2: So the box I bought had basically Boston cream looking

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Speaker 2: ones and powdered ones, both filled to the nines with

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Speaker 2: with the yellow cream, Luke cream, right, get on top, right,

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, show.

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Speaker 1: Boob, I do I do know what you are saying,

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Speaker 1: as it only took you three minutes to refer to

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Speaker 2: Fat Tuesday merch, Luke. You know, while I am not

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes? Please?

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Speaker 2: You bag a dick, right, I mean, you know, what's

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Speaker 2: Well, Luke, before you throw to the show, okay and

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Speaker 2: talk about much more serious topics, including gunfire. You know

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Speaker 2: want to show you this tweet that one of our

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Speaker 2: as you would say, intrepid donks came up with here

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Speaker 2: this morning. Todd Tuomi says, technically, MMA resume reviews without

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Speaker 2: Chuck Mindenhall are undefeated, undisputed eight and oh with seven finishes. Luke,

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Speaker 2: that that is true, bro. I'm not trying to move

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Speaker 2: the gold post on you, but that that is true.

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Speaker 1: Not trying to move the goalpost, but you're gonna move

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Speaker 1: him just the same, all right. So that's the new one,

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Speaker 1: Good to know that that is apparently the new line

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Speaker 2: So that means put all of your money on game

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Speaker 2: bread this weekend. That's what that actually means.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's what that means, Luke.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm just the facilitator here, all right.

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Speaker 1: King Velaskaz had the former UFC Heavyweight Champion of the World,

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Speaker 1: It is crazy beyond description, but it is the reality.

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Speaker 1: Here is what we know. It is all quite basic

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Speaker 1: Now we don't know who that family member is. That

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Speaker 1: I don't know what there is to really say about

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Speaker 1: today and remains behind bars. BC. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: to ask you about this except to say, isn't this

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Speaker 1: one of the most insane things you've ever seen in

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, crazy? And this escalated fast when

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Speaker 2: And to your greater point, a lot of this is

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Speaker 2: is shocking, not just given Kanes. I want to say

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Speaker 2: You know, we wondered right away or do we have

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Speaker 2: a like a Marvin Harrison situation or even worse, Luke,

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Speaker 2: do we have a Aaron Hernandez situation here? But I

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Speaker 2: think the tide of public reaction turned heavily once the

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Speaker 2: terms of the potential motivation, and then, Luke, you end

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Speaker 2: up finding out that the accuser, the accused here in

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Speaker 2: you know, is the place where Velasquez, his family member is.

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Speaker 2: But Luke, before we found out all those details, and

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Speaker 2: that the molestation happened upwards of one hundred times, is

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Speaker 2: that when I saw that mugshot right there, mm hmm,

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Speaker 2: my first thought was, damn, like's there's no remorse there.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't look like an accident. And I think before

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Speaker 2: out and say there's a justified reaction from Kane. This

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Speaker 2: is you know, street justice, this is what men do,

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Speaker 2: This is you know, a lot of things like that.

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Speaker 2: But I will tell you this, Dave Alscas is a

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Speaker 2: real dude, whether you live by that code or not.

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Speaker 2: And Luke, I don't particularly subscribe to this exact code

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Speaker 2: of reaction. But there's some Teddy Atlas putting the gun

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Speaker 2: in Mike Tyson's air type of shit like this is

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Speaker 2: the real shit. And I think, while I won't stand

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Speaker 2: it or or or put Kane's decision on a pedestal

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Speaker 2: because of the potential fallout for so many others. I

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Speaker 2: think you have to say this. You understand it, You

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Speaker 2: understand it. I'll talk for myself and then you can respond, Cain,

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Speaker 2: I understand it one hundred percent. And what could be

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Speaker 2: the fallout for Kane? I mean, you know, not only

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Speaker 2: And he also, Luke, could be taking his own life

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Speaker 2: and putting himself behind bars and affecting his own family

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Speaker 2: and all the fallout that comes with it. But I

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Speaker 2: get it, Luke, And I mean, we don't really live

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Speaker 2: in an eye for eye society, although good good lord

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Speaker 2: are we are?

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Speaker 1: We?

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Speaker 2: You know, hurtling closer to World War three? I have

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Speaker 2: no idea right now based on the headlines, you know, politically,

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Speaker 2: but there's something about this story that I think saw

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Speaker 2: a lot of people react to this and go, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I get I get it, I get it. That is

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Speaker 2: that insane.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't think it's insane. I mean, listen, again,

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Speaker 1: the new co main event half Al Dosanjos was sort

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Speaker 1: They almost went with Islam Makachev, but for whatever reason

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Speaker 2: Wow, I will say this, I'm not surprised. Motherfucker's given.

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Speaker 2: not guaranteed anything in terms of what you deserve. We've

431
00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,200
Speaker 2: seen guys like Tony Ferguson, like Max Holloway go long

432
00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,520
Speaker 2: winning streaks before they finally got that elusive title shot.

433
00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,560
Speaker 2: You're seeing Leon Edwards go through that right now. Tell

434
00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,560
Speaker 2: me this, Luke, why in the hell would he even

435
00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:57,359
Speaker 2: a start this conversation or b you know, he doesn't

436
00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 2: seem like a guy that's motivated by money. Why would

437
00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,000
Speaker 2: you even want to do this when you should just

438
00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,920
Speaker 2: be sitting there and saying, I got the next tile show.

439
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,119
Speaker 2: I've already locked it up. So if it doesn't happen,

440
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,760
Speaker 2: this is UFC screwing me over like they did Uncle

441
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,440
Speaker 2: Habib at UFC two oh five.

442
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,160
Speaker 1: Maybe he thought, even though he got the win over

443
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 1: Bobby Green, and I'm only guessing, I want to be

444
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,640
Speaker 1: very clear about that. My only guess would be he

445
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,879
Speaker 1: looked at it and said, if I take this one

446
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,560
Speaker 1: for the UFC and you know, fight at one seven

447
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,520
Speaker 1: or whatever. They would have agreed upon five rounds or otherwise,

448
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 1: I'd be doing them as solid and because he doesn't

449
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,120
Speaker 1: have that like a level win. More recently, the Dan

450
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 1: Hooker win was nice, but I mean, you know, obviously

451
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:39,480
Speaker 1: beating Bobby Green on short notice is not the same

452
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 1: as beating Benil Daryush. He might have thought I could

453
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,640
Speaker 1: win this do with a UFC a solid favor and

454
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,399
Speaker 1: like really make it ironclad, but as you indicate, there

455
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 1: are so many ways where that could just go wrong.

456
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 1: And even if you get it, you might be thinking

457
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 1: you're doing them a favor, and you are, but how

458
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 1: that will be repaid is very unclear. It's just it's

459
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,720
Speaker 1: just worth more happen than it is reward. I just

460
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,400
Speaker 1: think initially he might have been in that let's lock

461
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 1: this thing up kind of a gear. But I want

462
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:06,880
Speaker 1: to say something about.

463
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,440
Speaker 2: This fair angle. That's a fair angle.

464
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 1: Look, I appreciate that, Okay, I just feel like I know, listen,

465
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 1: am I going to argue with you or anybody else

466
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,879
Speaker 1: that Artya versus Makachev is a worse fight than Ardia

467
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 1: versus Not to MOI Kano. No, that would have been

468
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,879
Speaker 1: for the fans interests far preferable, I understand. But I've

469
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:27,879
Speaker 1: seen people being like, oh, this fight's okay, dude, this

470
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,679
Speaker 1: fight is great. Number one, I think I would just

471
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 1: point out the UFC step up culture that's got these

472
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Speaker 1: guys doing this. For like Moi Kano, he has a

473
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 1: lot to gain here, but this is a very difficult

474
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Speaker 1: assignment under the circumstances under which he's taking it. He's

475
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 1: trying to put wins together, not just do the UFC

476
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,679
Speaker 1: a solid so under that guideline, dude, this is a

477
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 1: big risk for him, but he has looked amazing since

478
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Speaker 1: coming up to one fifty five. He's got his three

479
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,679
Speaker 1: of his four fights he's won and all three by submission.

480
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 1: So he's putting these guys away. This is a huge challenge,

481
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,160
Speaker 1: but one that he has ever been more up for.

482
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,439
Speaker 1: And for RDA, we know he's a real talent, but

483
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 1: he's kind of on the I think the latter stages

484
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 1: I would say of his career he can be the

485
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 1: guy like mo Kano, it would say a lot. Plus

486
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 1: these two guys are action oriented. I just feel like

487
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 1: as a replacement replacement, I don't know what folks are expecting.

488
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 1: This is a great.

489
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Speaker 2: Option as a replacement replacement of a replacement that was

490
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 2: actually a replacement to a different replacement. Hell yeah, Luke,

491
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 2: I love this fight. And how about our da always

492
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 2: being bowed about it? Shout out to him, But I

493
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 2: get what you're saying on Moykana as well. He has

494
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 2: the opportunity to get the kind of you know, public

495
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 2: critical appreciation by taking this chance and putting himself in

496
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 2: a pay per view cole mane, which still means a

497
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 2: lot when you are trying to get to that level

498
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 2: for sure, both financially and pride and competition wise, but

499
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 2: you know, even even more, he can make a leap

500
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 2: up those rankings with a big win. Here did you

501
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 2: see the actual details? I think Aaron Bronstater tweeted out

502
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,160
Speaker 2: of Moikano taking that like fourteen our flight to Brazil

503
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 2: to be with his family, and as soon as he

504
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,199
Speaker 2: touches down, goes through the phone calls of him, you know,

505
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,919
Speaker 2: being potentially offered the fight, accepts it right away and

506
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,880
Speaker 2: then gets back on an overnight fourteen hour plane ride

507
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 2: that had two stops along the way to join you know,

508
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 2: mid fight week I mean, these guys, Luke, whether the motivation,

509
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 2: and we just laid out potential motivations for all these guys.

510
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 2: No matter the motivation, Dude, these guys are mercenaries for hire.

511
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 1: You know.

512
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 2: Respect to the insensitivity that we led with the cane

513
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 2: shooting story, but these guys are more mercenaries for hire, Luke,

514
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 2: and I respect that as much as I'm saying, hey,

515
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,719
Speaker 2: Isla Machev, be a little bit more business savvy and

516
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,679
Speaker 2: don't you know, don't give in when you don't need to.

517
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, he tantalized fans about something he seemed really interested

518
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 1: in doing, and then I think he realized it's just

519
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 1: not worth it in the end, which is fine, make

520
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 1: the rational choices as best you can. But it got

521
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 1: fans worked out. I think that's the problem. He got

522
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 1: them worked out for like a super high level or

523
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 1: a super a level interest fight when this is not

524
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 1: that necessarily. But I would just argue for the folks

525
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 1: who be like oh I Macanno, Moi Kano. Every time

526
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 1: he has stepped up previously mostly a one forty five,

527
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 1: he has looked good at times, but you know, kind

528
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,640
Speaker 1: of fell short just a little bit. This is what

529
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,159
Speaker 1: he's looking for he's looking for a big name on

530
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: a big stage to finally turn that corner. And if

531
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 1: he does, he's another interesting player in this division. So

532
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,120
Speaker 1: I get I get why folks a little bit let down,

533
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,439
Speaker 1: but I would just caution not to be too cynical

534
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: about it. There's a lot of reasons to be excited

535
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 1: also in this car No, how dare you.

536
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,400
Speaker 2: Not lead with the real story from this card? Luke,

537
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 2: Jessica I has pulled out of this Mann Fierro fight,

538
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 2: so she has apologized to the fan. Luke, she said

539
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 2: she had a tremendous training camp. So here we go,

540
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 2: evil Luke, Here.

541
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 1: We go, Here we go. Indeed, b C, I want

542
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: to go back to the main event for this one.

543
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: We've just we've talked about it at length again pregame,

544
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 1: preview and resume review.

545
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 2: Things have changed. Would you agree that the huge media

546
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 2: splurge the last four or five days led by like

547
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 2: that's sort of updated and or change some of these like.

548
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: Okay, brother, let me pitch it to you. Let me

549
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,439
Speaker 1: pitch to you. How would you say? How would you

550
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 1: characterize that shift? Where are we now?

551
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,160
Speaker 2: You know we're in full on monster fight promotion mode

552
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 2: of course in this matchup, which I think, Luke, given

553
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 2: the fact that two title fights fell off, I'm not

554
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 2: even sure UFC was necessarily going in this direction for

555
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 2: this matchup, even though it's very logical for both fighters

556
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 2: and the promotion. But given that this pay per view needed,

557
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 2: you know, a main event, it got it. It allows

558
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 2: both fighters a chance to really relitigate and and dig

559
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 2: deep and tell the full story on you know, how

560
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 2: close were you really, what were those sparring sessions really like?

561
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,439
Speaker 2: And ultimately whose fault was it for the you know,

562
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 2: all that bull It's either bullshit to you or it's

563
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 2: fuel for what could potentially happen in this fight. So, Luke,

564
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 2: here's what I've learned, and it's interesting, and I think,

565
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 2: you know, let's give Mark Raymunday credit. He did sit

566
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 2: down for ESPN with Dan Lamb. Also, Hori moswital I

567
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 2: really enjoyed Breto Kimodo sit down with Koby Covington. I mean,

568
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 2: good lord, Luke, we didn't even mention OURDA found out

569
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 2: that Phyzivee pulled out of that fight mid interview with Ariel.

570
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,479
Speaker 2: So it's been a while last week to begin with,

571
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 2: but in relation to this main event. I think it's

572
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 2: worthless to like look too closely in like their reactions.

573
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 2: And I saw a lot of people saying, damn, look,

574
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 2: Kobe looked shook in that interview. And I don't know

575
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 2: if there's an amount of money on this planet you

576
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 2: could pay me to sit through the seven minutes that

577
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 2: was stephen A interviewing both guys at the same time.

578
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 2: So I have no idea what happened there, Luke, and

579
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 2: I never will. But here's what I want to say

580
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 2: that I didn't say on the rooftop that has come

581
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 2: out from my observations this week. Okay, I think there's

582
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 2: two questions you have to ask yourself about this fight. One,

583
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 2: because the narrative is so much in your face, you

584
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 2: got to kind of deal with it to a certain degree,

585
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 2: like who's really telling the truth? They are so one

586
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 2: hundred percent in opposite to on every story about the

587
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 2: history of their friendship and who didn't pay who and

588
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 2: how they fell apart and who fucked who over and

589
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 2: who got actually invited back to att after being kicked

590
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 2: out that somebody's lying. So that's question one, you know.

591
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 2: In question two, obviously, is does any of that shit

592
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 2: really matter because obviously styles make fights in the end,

593
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 2: this is a very bad style matchup for Jorge. Colby

594
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,959
Speaker 2: is three years younger and much more fresher and more elite.

595
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 2: Now I say much more. You could argue that's exaggerating,

596
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 2: but you know we'll find out. And also Luke both

597
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 2: have lost to the same guy in the past two

598
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 2: and a half years, but Covey team came a lot

599
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 2: closer in both fights. You know, there's no question about that.

600
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:45,959
Speaker 2: But I want to say this about Jorge that I

601
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 2: didn't think heading in that I've picked up from the

602
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 2: interviews this week. You know, none of that might matter

603
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 2: in the end. It could be fifty forty five Colby

604
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 2: in Shut Up BC. But the when we see Jorge

605
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 2: at his best, he is one of the rare athletes

606
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 2: fighters who doesn't just bring emotions into the game like

607
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 2: is fueled by them. Most guys, that's a distraction. Jorges

608
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 2: arguably at his very best when the trash talking is

609
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 2: dialed up. Or Luke when you look back at his

610
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 2: insane twenty nineteen when he came back from that year

611
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 2: plus off, came out of the jungles of that reality

612
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 2: show and vowed to baptize everyone and went on that

613
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 2: run of three knockouts and the almost unimaginable Fighter of

614
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 2: the Year honors and went from journeyman too pay per

615
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 2: view headliner almost overnight. Dude, that was emotion fueled. It

616
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 2: was a lot of like, I've been in this game

617
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 2: a long time and I've really never got the recognition

618
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 2: or financial rewards that I deserved. And Luke he turned

619
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 2: his fortunes around in twenty nineteen and as I always say,

620
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 2: actually voted them number ten pounds per pound after he

621
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 2: beatingn A Diaz that year because like everyone else, like

622
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 2: it's just hard not to get caught up and who

623
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 2: the hell is this guy? But that was emotion fueled

624
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 2: to a large degree. What's followed since twenty nineteen. You know,

625
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 2: on paper, it's two losses to Kamara Usman, who's arguably

626
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 2: on his way to becoming one of the grace of

627
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 2: all time, and it's a horrible style matchup, so who cares.

628
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 2: But I think Jorge really started to live that celebrity

629
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 2: life in twenty twenty because he finally had the cash

630
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 2: to kind of do what he wants and start his

631
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 2: own liquor business, you know, all that stuff, that that's

632
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 2: where he always wanted to be, and whether he was

633
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 2: going to get destroyed by Usman twice or not, I

634
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 2: think it took some of that edge off. Now, obviously

635
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 2: he's also thirty seven, and we can always make the

636
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 2: debate of was that twenty nineteen performance from him like

637
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 2: lightning in a bottle Tim Tebow run into the playoffs

638
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 2: that will never see from him again? But look, I

639
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 2: feel like he went into that Usman first fight with

640
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 2: that short camp, you know, really not expecting to win

641
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 2: given the circumstances, and then of course gets a taste

642
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 2: of how great Usman is and realizes how far they

643
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 2: actually are apart. And then you know, like the company

644
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 2: above him, Cash is in the rematch and you know

645
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 2: his game, but gets sent to the bottom depths of hell.

646
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 2: I feel like I see that spark again in Jorge

647
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 2: this week that I haven't seen since twenty nineteen. Now,

648
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,239
Speaker 2: I'm not fooled into believing that that same version as

649
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 2: walking through that door on Saturday. I just think I'm

650
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 2: giving Jorge a much bigger chance than I expected coming

651
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 2: into this week because he loves this shit. He thrives

652
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 2: on this hatred and he said he said in all

653
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 2: that bs where obviously he's not gonna do anything unless

654
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 2: he can get Colby into a brawl. But the foundation's

655
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 2: being bill and we'll find out more at the final

656
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 2: presser and the you know way in face to face.

657
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 2: I feel like that foundation. Luke is kind of talking

658
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 2: me into saying this week, Jorge, you've won me back over.

659
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 2: I think the fire might be relt maybe for the

660
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 2: last time. Maybe he's got reason again to light at Luke,

661
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 2: whether you think he's fighting for his pay per view

662
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 2: future or not. But that guy's back, dude, that bad guy.

663
00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 2: He's back this week.

664
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: So this is what I said on the roof. You're

665
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: right about one thing I just don't think anyone can

666
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: really challenge, which is like, can we get the twenty

667
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: nineteen heroics back? I don't think so. I think that

668
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: that was in twenty nineteen. I don't think you can

669
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: get that back. But that doesn't mean to me that

670
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: him exceeding expectations and having a raised because you know,

671
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: Poorge at his best is quite good. You just don't know.

672
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: Not that he's unmotivated per se, but sometimes he fights

673
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: down to competition. Sometimes he fights up. Sometimes he's overwhelmed.

674
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: But what I mean to say is the idea that

675
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: he was that there's only twenty nineteen or nothing, to

676
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: me just feels like a little bit of a mixed

677
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: middle ground where he could actually raise his profile. One

678
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: thing to think about BC here is I'm not gonna

679
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: say every time, but a lot of times when Colby

680
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: is doing his shtick, it's one way traffic. I mean,

681
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: Tyron Woody kind of gave it back to him, but

682
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: Tyrone was on his last legs at the time, and

683
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: like having a hat where like oh make or keep racist,

684
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: catching a fade or whatever it was, it didn't have

685
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: hardly any effect during the fight week or anything else.

686
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: But here you got a guy who is not only

687
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: giving it back to him, but giving it back to

688
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: him in a way where they're making like claims about

689
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: who he actually is in ways that no one else can.

690
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: I mean, you mentioned something like who's lying. I don't

691
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: know who's lying. But again, Danny Sigura talked to Paulino Hernandez,

692
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: the coach at the middle of this. I watched the

693
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: whole interview. Dude, He's pretty direct about it. He's like, yeah,

694
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: this whole thing. This, this, this, this, he stiffed me.

695
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: I don't like him, and that's why we're here. He

696
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: didn't mince words at all, he didn't exaggerate for effect.

697
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: He was kind of soft spoken, but he just laid

698
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: it all out there. So, dude, I feel like Jorge

699
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: Masvidal is Yes. Of course, as we said, a lot

700
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: of this is for effect, a lot of this is

701
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: for money, the media stuff where they're badgering each other

702
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: on Steven A. Smith, this is clearly designed to sell

703
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: pay per views, but the heart of it is something real.

704
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,479
Speaker 1: And because there is something real, and I think also BC, Jorge,

705
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: as you indicated, not super young. He probably knows that

706
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: big fights are going to be come into a close

707
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: sooner rather than later. I honestly feel like I still

708
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: think Colby deserves to be the favorite based on the

709
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: body of work he's turned in. And again you're right,

710
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: fifty to forty five who could be surprised, But don't

711
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: be surprised either if Jorge still has some magic in him.

712
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: This is a semi different scenario that Colby's entering to,

713
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 1: and I think those differences can matter.

714
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 2: It's rare, Luke, it's rare when handicapping a fight or

715
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 2: taking you know, doing these long winded rants like I

716
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 2: just did, to try to properly set the storyline and

717
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 2: how it can affect the fight. It's rare that you go,

718
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 2: you know, so far off base, beyond the x's and

719
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 2: o's and lean into that. But Luke, you know you

720
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 2: have a brother. I don't have one, But I grew

721
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 2: up with you know, a lot a lot of uh.

722
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 2: I grew up with a lot of other people who

723
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,919
Speaker 2: had brothers. Man, that sounds lame as shit, man, right,

724
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 2: I grew up with a lot of boys who had I.

725
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: Know, people who also have brothers.

726
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 2: You ever see a brother fight, Luke, Age, size, experience

727
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 2: doesn't always come into play when there's that level of

728
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 2: like emotion and rage. And I don't really know if

729
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 2: Colby and Jorgey were like true best buds. And I

730
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 2: don't actually, Luke, really know if this whole breakup, you know,

731
00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 2: they could have just as easily said, hey, look, bro,

732
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 2: we know we have you know, a check we can

733
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 2: cash later in our careers, So let's let's keep the

734
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,959
Speaker 2: you know, let's keep this shit up. You know who knows, Luke,

735
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 2: But Orge is making me believe a little bit. Like

736
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 2: I mentioned that, you know, if he can create taking

737
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 2: the word chaos, if he can actually create chaos again

738
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 2: in that cage, you never know, you never know. And

739
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 2: I think that's got me a lot more excited, even

740
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 2: though I'm not buying it completely on some of the

741
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 2: theatrics and the pro wrestling and all that bullshit, I

742
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 2: am interested to see, like, you know, can you catch

743
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 2: at Colby who may not have that same motivation? I mean, Luke,

744
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 2: that's the thing, because if we're going on things other

745
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 2: than next as the No's, how about motivation. I do believe,

746
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 2: you know, there's people that tell VC you're crazy if

747
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 2: if if Jorge loses this, he could just as well

748
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,919
Speaker 2: headline the next pay per view against Connor. Yeah, Okay,

749
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 2: you're probably right there. But I do believe that Jorge

750
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 2: seems to be fighting for much more in this fight

751
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 2: than Colby is. Luke, That's just what I believe.

752
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: I don't think that's crazy. I really don't think that's crazy.

753
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: A though, And honestly, I cannot wait to see what's

754
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: gonna happen on Saturday. Okay, b see, we have to

755
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: get to more craziness let's talk about this. You saw

756
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: this and I was not floored, but we knew we

757
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: had to discuss it. So Dana White spoke to John Morgan.

758
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 1: By the way, shouts to John Morgan. After a long

759
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: tenure at MMA Junkie is now it looks to me

760
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: like the head guy in charge over at Mixmartial Arts

761
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: dot com. Their forum is known as the Underground, So

762
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: Dana spoke to John Morgan through that. Now he was

763
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,280
Speaker 1: asked about Connor McGregor, and he was asked about title

764
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: shots and how this is all going to play out.

765
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: Here is what Dana said in response to the question

766
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 1: about whether or not Connor's going to get a title

767
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: shot when he comes back. Quote, it's going to depend

768
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: on who the champion is. The champion has some saying

769
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: that too. Who's going to be the champ when Connor

770
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: McGregor comes back, or what do they want to do?

771
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,240
Speaker 1: If you look at OLIVERA, right, if it's still OLIVERA

772
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 1: by the time he comes back, maybe OLIVERA wants Connor.

773
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: Who knows. I don't know. We'll have to see what happens.

774
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: There's a lot of variables that have to come together

775
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: for him to come back and fight number one is

776
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: health houses his leg. Then once that's a one hundred

777
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: percent we'll start to figure out where he goes because

778
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: a lot of these we have fights. This is KEYBC

779
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: already made through June eighteenth already. Once he's one hundred

780
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 1: percent ready to go, we'll get him figured out, and

781
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 1: we'll see what's what with the lightweight division, and we'll

782
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: get him figured out. Be See, here's my read on this.

783
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: Tell me if I'm wrong. He's not saying that Connor

784
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: is necessarily the next person to get a title shot,

785
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: because the calendar might fill up before they can make

786
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 1: all that work. But what he is saying is doesn't

787
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: matter because by the time Connor does come back, if

788
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: the champ wants it, you, Bubba's would be crazy to

789
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: think we're not going to make it.

790
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 2: For like, you know, I can either quote NAT or

791
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 2: I could just tell you straight up, I fucking told you,

792
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 2: and you meaning the Ethos Fear and everyone who dms

793
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:42,280
Speaker 2: me all the time and says DC stop riding Connor's

794
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 2: nutsack and bringing up his name. There's no freaking chance

795
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 2: that injured, washed guy coming off to you know, stoppage

796
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 2: defeats is going to get the next title shot, and

797
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 2: like I tell them, and like I always say, Luke good,

798
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: I mean kidding me. You can never put this pastor

799
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 2: underestimate the UFC. And you could also, Luke argue separate

800
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 2: from you know, rankings and meritocracy, they'd be dumb not

801
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 2: to consider this exact same thing. But it's it's of

802
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 2: course it's in play, and you know, I mean, let's

803
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 2: say all of as much as like, that's why I'm

804
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 2: saying with the Islam Mahachev thing, it's like, don't do

805
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 2: them any favors, especially in where we are right now

806
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 2: in fighter pay and maybe some of the advances that

807
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 2: could be coming if people are still bold, or if

808
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 2: there's just gonna be some type of fall off from

809
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 2: Nghanu being so bold. And you can argue Atasania seems

810
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 2: to be very happy following that in Gani situation, so

811
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 2: you know, keep posted to that. But even in this

812
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 2: in this era, you know, I just don't think Islam

813
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 2: should be giving that away. But you see right here

814
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 2: why because they could they could just as hell scurity

815
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 2: on the back end. So if Olivera beats Gaechie, you

816
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 2: know Olivera, everybody wants to fight Connor, especially now when

817
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 2: he's deemed vulnerable. They'd fight him anyway, no matter what,

818
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 2: for the opportunity and the money and the I mean,

819
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 2: you're you're a made man, you know. I mean, okay, look,

820
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 2: let me ask you this, can I, Louke, can I

821
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:04,280
Speaker 2: ask you something?

822
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 1: Please?

823
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 2: You know, the lifetime reputation and respect Nick Diaz has,

824
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 2: it's almost impeccable, like fans love him. But is Nate

825
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 2: is Nick Das? Nick is Nick Dias like one hundred

826
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 2: percent a crossover name in every sports fans mind. I

827
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 2: can argue, No, let me flip that around and say

828
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 2: Nate Diaz if he hadn't thought Connor forget twice? But

829
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 2: ever in what we're what two of the three biggest

830
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 2: pay per views in UFC history. Dude, he's he's What

831
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 2: is he? I don't want to say he's nothing? What

832
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 2: is he? Right now?

833
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 3: Luke?

834
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 2: What is he? He's not a household name, dude, right.

835
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 2: I mean it's obvious, it's so so and that's not

836
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 2: some revelation. Okay, b see that's stupid, but you get

837
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 2: the point. So you know, yeah, man, I mean I

838
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 2: want to just hedge this a bit and be fair

839
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 2: as I've been told shout out Brandon Wise and CBS

840
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 2: Sports that if you listen to the audio in the

841
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 2: John Morgan interview, it's not as strong from Dana as

842
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 2: the as the poll quote would make you think.

843
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's not a denunciation, like dude, when does

844
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 1: like the fact that he's hedging tells you he's hedging right.

845
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 2: And also look he he summed it up. I saw

846
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 2: a part of his interview with Aaron Brownsteader where Dana

847
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 2: just look, you know, tired and exasperated by he was

848
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 2: mentioning the Ukraine situation and everything going on, and he

849
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 2: was just like, look, everyone's always asking me what's next

850
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 2: for Connery. He's like, I don't even know what's gonna happen,

851
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 2: you know, three months from now. And I think it's

852
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 2: just his way of saying, like, you know, you can

853
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 2: ask me and I can answer, but like, I don't

854
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 2: really know. But with that said, Luke, of course they

855
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 2: will do this. Of course, a freaking course they would.

856
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 2: And it doesn't matter if olivera orgate, she wins, and like,

857
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 2: you know, we we joke back and forth. I think

858
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 2: you you and I and Mikey mormal producer just had

859
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 2: like a tech stream of going. It's like, Okay, here's

860
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 2: how Islam can get a title shot. If only Dana

861
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 2: can convince Abib to come back for one more fight,

862
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 2: and then we can guarantee Islama title shot. It's like,

863
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 2: you know, the UFC of course would bend over backwards

864
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 2: to do Habib Connor two in any form of situation.

865
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 2: It's the biggest selling fight in MMA history by freaking far.

866
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 2: It's two of the greatest of all time. It's got

867
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 2: a hatred rivalry that really at times can make John

868
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 2: Jones and Cormier look like they're you know, best buddies.

869
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 2: But Luke the bet the next best thing of that

870
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 2: would have to be Connor McGregor stumbling back into the

871
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 2: lightweight title and fighting unbeaten Islam Maha chev with with

872
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 2: with uh with a beab in his corner. Dude, that's

873
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 2: the next best like scenario for the UFC, like of

874
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 2: oh hell yeah is Luke, Dude.

875
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: It's it's like, if you're the UFC, I don't know

876
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: why you wouldn't do it. Who else, depending who's champion

877
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:53,439
Speaker 1: justin Charles, you name it, who else? Assuming they beat

878
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 1: Connor is going to be that transformative for them anywhere. Like,

879
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 1: if you are the UFC and you're looking at Honor's

880
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: long term potential, it's not super significant at this point. Obviously,

881
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 1: what he's done has been arguably the most significant, and

882
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: it would be foolish to discount his chances. But I

883
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: doubt his best days are ahead. I doubt that, right,

884
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: some good days potentially, but it's very like he's going

885
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: to match or exceed what he did at UFC two

886
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: of five. I find that very hard to believe his

887
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,439
Speaker 1: best days are behind him. And so if you're thinking

888
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: about the UFC long term, either a Connor being champion

889
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: is great for you, right, that's just a fucking win,

890
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: or someone beating Connor is also good for you. In

891
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: all of these cases putting Connor in that mix like

892
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 1: there is still, however, much the value equation has changed

893
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,879
Speaker 1: about exactly why they want to fight Connor. Yes, money,

894
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: of course has been pre eminent and will remain preeminent,

895
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: but there's also a few other reasons why they want

896
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 1: to do it. Even though some of those have shifted

897
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 1: around in certain places, the overall picture BC is quite clear.

898
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: It is still extremely valuable for champions to want to

899
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 1: fight him. It is still extremely valuable for the UFC

900
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: too want to make these fights. The fans won't in totality,

901
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: certain or even in large numbers, they won't revolt. So

902
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: I ask, whether you like these facts or whether you

903
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,479
Speaker 1: don't like these facts, what is the mechanism by which

904
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: they will be stopped. I don't see it. I just

905
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 1: don't see it.

906
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, that's that's just the way it is, Luke.

907
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 2: I think that's what Bruce Hornsby once said, and then

908
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 2: then they put it on a pretty badass Tupac song.

909
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

910
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, told you I played basketball with him my freshman

911
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: year in college. All right too?

912
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 2: Who Tupac?

913
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: Bruce Hornsby, Bruce period, Yeah, he lived, he lived in Williamsburg.

914
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,439
Speaker 2: Yeah wait wait, how do you just hide this, dude?

915
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 2: I love me some Bruce Hornsby. I got that.

916
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 1: I told you, I told you before my freshman No,

917
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: it's true story. My freshman year, I was playing basketball

918
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 1: at our local gym with just some friends and he

919
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: was there playing pickup basketball. We just weaved on right in.

920
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: That's its simple as that. I didn't even know who

921
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 1: he was at first.

922
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 2: So can you describe his game? Dude, I'm very into this.

923
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 2: I'm way too.

924
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:56,479
Speaker 1: This was a long time ago.

925
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 2: Now.

926
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: He played like he was an n shape, regular old man.

927
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: Hit a couple of screens, hit a couple of jumps.

928
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 2: It wasn't fun. He was probably like, yeah, yeah.

929
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: Yeah he was, Yes, he was. He was pretty good.

930
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 2: Yo, yo. Prince would have took Bruce hornsby to the

931
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 2: whole billy hole. You know what I'm saying.

932
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: You know, you know wous after he dunks.

933
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 2: Yeahah, well and then and then served him pancakes in

934
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 2: that ass.

935
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, Bruce Horns we could ball a little bit. He

936
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: could a little bit. Damn what I was. I was like,

937
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, thanks for that Mandolin

938
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: Rain song. It's good. I like it. It's great song.

939
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 2: Every time I think, Luke, that you know that the

940
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 2: limits of me being wowed by you, or that our

941
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 2: friendship or relationship could get any better, right, It's only

942
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 2: can get worse from here, Like fuck you. These moments, Luke,

943
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 2: just just remind me that you know we have more

944
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 2: to mine from each other. Luke, Okay, we ain't going nowhere,

945
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:49,240
Speaker 2: all right.

946
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: I've lived a surprising and immensely stupid life. There's a

947
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: lot to talk about, all right, things that are not stupid. However,

948
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: topic number three, Hamsa Shamaya is probably going to take

949
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: on Gilbert Burns again. Dana White telling the Underground through

950
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: John Morgan quote, it's happening now. If it does happen,

951
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: it is looked to be at April ninths UFC two

952
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: seventy three pay per view event, of course, which would

953
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: be in Jacksonville, Florida. BC. We knew this was kind

954
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: of coming. We had heard some rumors. It's been room

955
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: or out there in the public for some time. Not

956
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: official official, but something pretty close to it, OKABC. The

957
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: significance of this fight is extraordinary because if Colby beats Jorge,

958
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 1: he is going to be in at least a good

959
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 1: position for a title shot, all things being equal. However,

960
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: if hamzat Chimayah wins true or false BC, and let's

961
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: say he wins authoritatively, he's going to leap frog Colby

962
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 1: for the next title shot.

963
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 2: Oh hell, oh yes, oh yes, he will. Luke, We've

964
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 2: had this debate before. It would have been hella aggressive,

965
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:49,919
Speaker 2: but I think you could and somewhat arguably should even

966
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 2: make Tremaiah of usman right now, because what we don't

967
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 2: know about this guy is just so damn sexy that

968
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 2: finding it out at that level would be wild, Luke.

969
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 2: It could also break a guy, and you know, we've

970
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 2: seen guys get get rushed too quickly or get up

971
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 2: you know. But I don't think anything's gonna break shamia If.

972
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, Luke, you know, I mean,

973
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 2: I've never really been a monster Darren tilfan. I've been

974
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 2: spending most of my on air career telling you how

975
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 2: overrated he is. This brotherhood between chamayav Until that's coming

976
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 2: out through social media, isn't it like heartwarming?

977
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 1: I don't follow either on social but I did see

978
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: the videos of them training together. Dude, it can only

979
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: be good for Darren Till. I think mixing it up

980
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: and getting some you know, intense energy like that guy

981
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 1: brings to the training room, that's what he needs.

982
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 2: I think a little bit right now, when Till comes

983
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 2: out and says, I see so much of myself and him,

984
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 2: you know, I love that, like you know, it transcends

985
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 2: cultures and language and like you know, like it's like

986
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 2: you and I Luke, we come from opposite ends of

987
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 2: the journalism tracks, yet you put us together and we

988
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 2: find out we've got a lot of the same similarities

989
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 2: that drive us. You know what I'm saying. The packaging

990
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 2: is a little bit different, but you know, I love

991
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 2: seeing this. So back to the significant of this fight. Yeah, dude,

992
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 2: to me, this is and we you know, we thought

993
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 2: this could take different forms, like who is Tremiah finally

994
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 2: gonna fight to show us whether the hype is really real.

995
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:11,720
Speaker 2: There were a lot of names floated around in dates,

996
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 2: and we had to wait a long time to get

997
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 2: to this point with the bad COVID run that Tamia

998
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 2: have had in all that, but Gilbert Burns is the

999
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 2: right opponent to give us these answers. And yes, this

1000
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:26,280
Speaker 2: is the the proving ground that somebody this uniquely special.

1001
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 2: And we've had bright prospects before. I mean, you remember

1002
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 2: when John Jones was you know, three UFC wins in

1003
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 2: and you were getting people saying, like, dude, this guy

1004
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 2: really might have like greatest of all time future potential

1005
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 2: maybe one day, like there were some flashes of that,

1006
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,439
Speaker 2: but I can't remember this organically where somebody went from

1007
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 2: I've never heard of this guy to you know what

1008
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 2: he did in twenty twenty and now like me making

1009
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 2: some stupid argument that I should be fighting for the title. Now,

1010
00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:01,720
Speaker 2: I can't wait the theater potential. What Jamiah Burns offers

1011
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 2: just from that is this mother effort for real, like

1012
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 2: show us bro, because you might be so real that

1013
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,720
Speaker 2: you may finish Gilbert Burns in a minute and a half.

1014
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 2: Like we have no frickin idea here. I can't wait

1015
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 2: to find out.

1016
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, this is the part about Gilbert Burns

1017
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: that I love. First of all, Gilbert Burns might go

1018
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 1: in there and just remind everyone, Hello, I'm Gilbert Burns,

1019
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 1: and I think you all forgot what I'm capable of

1020
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: sty drop usman.

1021
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 2: We always forget about it. I rocked him.

1022
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: He rocked him. He rocked him. He didn't drop him,

1023
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: but he certainly rocked him. And also just like he

1024
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 1: is a legitimate it's not just a guy who has

1025
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: a black belt at like the purple belt or something

1026
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 1: like in the black belt division, a real world champion

1027
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 1: crossing over. We know about his striking, we know he's

1028
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: in the right weight class. Now we know about his wrestling.

1029
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: I mean, the thing about Gilbert is that he's the

1030
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: perfect opponent for Tremiah, because if you lose his it's

1031
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 1: like no harm, no foul, you still have some work

1032
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: to do. But if you win, you are beating a

1033
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: guy who I'm not gonna say any fighter is perfect

1034
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: or has fully mastered everything in MMA, but guy who

1035
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: has championship level experience lead jiu jitsu, very good wrestling,

1036
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: certainly very good striking at this point, too good cardio,

1037
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 1: good camp. Like you can't beat a guy who as

1038
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: as thoroughly you can always be guy. I mean, he's

1039
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 1: not the most talented guy. What I'm saying is it's

1040
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: rare for a prospect who is surging to get an

1041
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 1: opponent where beating him tells you almost everything you need

1042
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: to know something you would ordinarily need to get BC

1043
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 1: through the the case of multiple fight experiences, like how

1044
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 1: do they work against this guy or then against that

1045
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: guy or against that guy? You beat Gilbert Burns, you

1046
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,280
Speaker 1: answer a lot of those questions in one fell swoop.

1047
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: I don't know what happens after that, but I know

1048
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: that any lingering doubts about SHAMIAV should that happen, would

1049
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 1: probably evaporate instantly at that point.

1050
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 2: Well, look, if you would you say that this is

1051
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,240
Speaker 2: the most hyped. I mean, Aaron Pico had a hype

1052
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 2: level coming into his pro debut that was huge. But

1053
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 2: I mean, like I mentioned, people, people made whispers about

1054
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 2: John Jones very early, but I'm not sure we all

1055
00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 2: had like that one hundred percent like confidence that no,

1056
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 2: no matter what, he's just gonna go out there and

1057
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 2: be Hall of Famer after Hall of Famer after Hall

1058
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 2: of Famer and win the title and be who he

1059
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 2: is now the greatest fighter I've ever seen, more more

1060
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 2: or less. I mean, you know, there's arguments to be made,

1061
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 2: but more or less the goat. Can you compare this

1062
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 2: this Hamza meteor? It's like bo Jackson, Dude, Like, what

1063
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 2: have we seen mma wise recently that compares to this?

1064
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 2: I mean Johnny Walker, but not even Johnny Walker. The

1065
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 2: scent coming from Johnny Walker. Wasn't this legitimate?

1066
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: Luke, No, this is like it's got It's it's like

1067
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: a mix of Habib with this is not quite right,

1068
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: but I mean just the just the quickness with which

1069
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,720
Speaker 1: people are asking him to be in these huge fights.

1070
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: It's like Habib mixed with the push behind Brock Lesner almost.

1071
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: I mean, that's not quite right, because he had this

1072
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 1: huge popularity base before evercoming here. But what I mean

1073
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: to say was after and he lost his first fight

1074
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 1: against mer. But what I mean to say was once

1075
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: he began to write the ship, it was like this

1076
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: meteor headed right for the top of the division. Granted

1077
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 1: was Randy Coutur at the time, that the comparison falls apart.

1078
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to say Habib had this kind of

1079
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: slow ish role. All these guys you mentioned had this

1080
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 1: slowish role. I'm trying to think of someone who had

1081
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: this quick roll but then had all of the game

1082
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: behind it. In many ways, it is entirely unique. I'm

1083
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: not really sure what the antecedent to this would be.

1084
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 1: Quite frankly, I you know, and I'm smitting.

1085
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 2: I'm smitting with Jamaiah, like his persona, his you know,

1086
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 2: his confidence and mixed with cockiness. It's it's it's pretty addictive, Luke.

1087
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 2: You know, it's hard to hate. Well, really, it's hard

1088
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 2: to hate. He wants it. He wants all that smart look.

1089
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 2: He wants to move in with Cypress Hill and have

1090
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 2: that smoke backpack thing put around his face with the torch.

1091
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 2: He wants all of it.

1092
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 1: Luke, listen until he wants to stand inside of a

1093
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: life size bong. I don't believe that, but I know

1094
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 1: what you all right, let's move on, Hold on, let

1095
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: me finish this. We see we got we gotta move along.

1096
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 2: We got to move for I make this joke, all right, Luke,

1097
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,280
Speaker 2: I'm you know, look on a second by second basis.

1098
00:51:58,320 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 2: I'm trying to entertain as much as I can. Right,

1099
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 2: don't don't.

1100
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 1: Neuter me, Okay, I know, I know, I know I'm

1101
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 1: not trying to all right, topic number four and this

1102
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:11,280
Speaker 1: will kick off in three minutes, so Errol Spence Junior,

1103
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: I think I can get to this now. We all

1104
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 1: knew was going to fight your Dennis Ugas. It is

1105
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 1: going to be on Showtime pay per view, I want

1106
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 1: to say, in just minutes. And if you look in

1107
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: the description box below, there is a link to watch

1108
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: it if you would like. The official kickoff for the

1109
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:29,280
Speaker 1: press conference. Aerol Spence Junior taken on Your Dennis Ugas.

1110
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: It's going to be on Showtime pay per view. The

1111
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: presser today is at Jerry's World in Dallas, BC. What

1112
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: is the number one reason for folks to care about

1113
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:44,760
Speaker 1: Aerol Spence Junior versus your Dennis Ugas the number one reason.

1114
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 2: Oh and also quickly, Jerry Jones, the the you know

1115
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 2: that you mentioned, he'll be part of this press conference

1116
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 2: as well. Look, number one reason is the significance of

1117
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 2: the fight.

1118
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: Let's April sixteenth, April sixteenth, April sixteenth.

1119
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 2: You know at and T Coup Stadium. There the significance

1120
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 2: of the fight. What is welter weight It's it's this,

1121
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 2: you know, it's the sexy division. It's the one that's

1122
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 2: carried this the sport and a pay per view level

1123
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 2: through heavyweights ups and downs in recent eras. And this

1124
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 2: is for three of the four world titles. Uh, that's

1125
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 2: number one, no question about it. It's getting us closer

1126
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 2: to finding out who is not only the best waltzweight

1127
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,359
Speaker 2: in the world, but once we find that answer out,

1128
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 2: that answer will simultaneously be who's the best welterweight of

1129
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 2: this era? And in the post you know, Manny Floyd

1130
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 2: welterweight era. It's a pretty big deal. But one b

1131
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 2: to that, to that, what's most important, Luke the The

1132
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 2: subhead to that is is Eryl Spence still the same guy?

1133
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 2: And like you, you don't have to like I'm not

1134
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 2: being critical here, I'm not being cynical, like I'm the

1135
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 2: biggest Aerol Spence junior fan in terms of his game

1136
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 2: as anyone. I've been flip flopping the who would win

1137
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 2: between him and Terrence Crawford debate for years because I

1138
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 2: believe Spence is this good despite some of those outside

1139
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 2: the ring things that are now piling up, you know,

1140
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 2: question wise, I don't think we question any more Spence's focus,

1141
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 2: or his commitment, or whether he's cleaned up some of

1142
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 2: those outside the ring things. And let's remember, you know,

1143
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,919
Speaker 2: he was more than lucky, miraculous to walk away from

1144
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 2: that that you know, drunk driving crash with nothing basically

1145
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 2: after getting thrown from his vehicle. But now he's in

1146
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 2: his early thirties, he's had another year long layoff. He

1147
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 2: had to pull out of that Manny pay per view

1148
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 2: because of the detached retina. So that's now something potentially

1149
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 2: legitimately physically compromising, mixed with the fact that he walked

1150
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 2: away from this horrific crash that knocked out his teeth

1151
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 2: and you know, banged him up a little bit, You

1152
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 2: do wonder Luke if Aerol Spence Junior is not you know,

1153
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 2: ninety percent of what makes him great, You damn right.

1154
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 2: This is a trap fight because your Dennis Zugas is

1155
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 2: that good. Whether we get the best Spence or not,

1156
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 2: he is in this fight. He is under The performance

1157
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 2: he put on Pachiel on the last minute was was

1158
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 2: exactly what makes him a the black not the black sheep,

1159
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 2: the sort of like the guy you're gonna overlook, but

1160
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 2: the guy who may end up surprising everyone. Can he

1161
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 2: beat the very best of Earl Spence? I don't know.

1162
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 2: I'd question that a little, But is the very best

1163
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 2: of a reel Spence still able to walk through that

1164
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 2: door April sixteenth.

1165
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:30,879
Speaker 1: Lute From a tactical perspective, one of the things that

1166
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: a guy like Spence does extremely well. By the way,

1167
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 1: a second, all of your analysis, all of the stuff

1168
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 1: that's happened to Spence makes this question can he be

1169
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,320
Speaker 1: the very best of what we've seen? Moreover, what I

1170
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 1: would add is that a lot of the offense of

1171
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: what Spence tries, he is a diligent, thorough, consistent jab.

1172
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 1: He really lives and not dies behind him. But man,

1173
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 1: he lives behind that jab. That job is critical to

1174
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 1: everything he does, and your Dennis Ugas has a phenomenal

1175
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: ability to counter opponents who have a great inconsistent job.

1176
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: He has excellent jab defense and then offense off of

1177
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 1: that defense. So not only are the things that BC

1178
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: is saying quite correct about what we don't know actually

1179
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 1: about Aerol Spence Junior, there is you add another layer

1180
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 1: of complexity to what Ugas offers as an opponent, and man,

1181
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you if you're right, BC, If this way,

1182
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:22,879
Speaker 1: if we had real confidence, we would get the very

1183
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: best of Aerol Spence Junior. I'd say this is a

1184
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 1: tough fight, but winnable one for Spence. But given that

1185
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 1: we don't know and how Ugas seemingly has developed these

1186
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 1: very important skills do this is a very, very, very

1187
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: competitive fight and I cannot wait to see what Aero

1188
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 1: Spence Junior does. One quick question to you, if Spence

1189
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:45,439
Speaker 1: goes in there and shows us elite Spence, does that

1190
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 1: meaningfully add to the pressure behind Bud Crawford to sign

1191
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 1: with PBC.

1192
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 2: Yes, I think that that firmly points it back to

1193
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 2: Bud Crawford and says, look, what are you after? At

1194
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,879
Speaker 2: the end of the day because PBC, al Hayman and Narrow.

1195
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 2: Spence would have the would have the leverage financially to say, look,

1196
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 2: you know, we've been arguing for years and we never

1197
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 2: made this fight. And some of that argument was the

1198
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 2: perse split. Although to be fair, Luke, I never felt

1199
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 2: like either network or promoter really went all the way

1200
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:19,919
Speaker 2: and trying to secure that fight. And the reason why

1201
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 2: is because when you start to talk, the demands on

1202
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 2: both sides were, no, I'm the a side, I'm the

1203
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 2: guy that gets the larger split. You know, did they

1204
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:29,919
Speaker 2: ever come together and figure out a fifty to fifty deal?

1205
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 2: I don't believe they ever did. So if your team, Spence, dude,

1206
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 2: you'd have the ability to hold that leverage firm and

1207
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 2: you'd be basically saying, Terrence Crawford, you know you're not

1208
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 2: getting any younger either. What are you thirty four about

1209
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 2: to turn thirty five? This is the window to make

1210
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 2: this and not ruin it. I mean you have to realize, Luke,

1211
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 2: did many pack you on Floyd Mayweather come five to

1212
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 2: five and a half years too late? Yes, but but

1213
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 2: they were still number one and two pound for pound

1214
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 2: at the time, even though they were thirty eight and

1215
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 2: thirty six, and even with me his shoulder injury. However,

1216
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 2: you know, however deep you want to believe that affected him,

1217
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 2: it wasn't. You know, the action fight we probably would

1218
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 2: have got five years earlier, but we did get questions

1219
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 2: answered and that was not a washed many pakiaw right.

1220
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 2: So you don't want to take a chance of batching this.

1221
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 2: So you're basically saying, hey, hey, Bud, what does it

1222
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 2: mean to you to take less to make it happen,

1223
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 2: to to fulfill your legacy and cement it. And because look,

1224
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest with you, with you, Luke, if

1225
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 2: Terrence Crawford does not go to the PBC, I don't

1226
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 2: he doesn't have options. Eddie Hern already said, look, we're

1227
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 2: not gonna just overpay him to try to have the

1228
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 2: same problem as top rank. Did you know, could he

1229
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 2: end up fighting Virgil Ortiz Junior from the Golden Boys side? Yeah,

1230
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 2: I mean that'd be great, but that's still a one

1231
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 2: off with no real gain for Bud. You know, could

1232
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 2: he go back to top rank and fight the Josh

1233
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 2: Taylor or tail Femo Rising? Well maybe, but you know

1234
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 2: you also just sued Bob Barry mcclough them a racist.

1235
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 2: So yeah, Luke, that is because I was gonna ask

1236
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 2: you that same question. I was gonna say, we all

1237
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 2: know we we want and deserve Crawford to be next

1238
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 2: for the winner, regardless if it's Spencer Ugas, but knowing

1239
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 2: the business reality, it ends up being Keith Thurman against

1240
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 2: the winner. Does that movie? Does that get you excited?

1241
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 2: Because it's yes, still gets me, It still matters to me, Luke, Okay.

1242
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 1: No, no, don't get me wrong. Keith Thurman I thought

1243
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 1: looked really good, all things considered, in his last fight.

1244
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 1: I mean, not a perfect fight, last six one as

1245
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 1: good as the first six, but he looked to be

1246
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 1: in phenomenal shape. And hey, that was what two fights

1247
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 1: in five years or something like, all things being equal,

1248
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 1: I thought that was pretty good. So sure, winner of

1249
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: this one taken on Keith Thurman. I'm not gonna complain

1250
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 1: about that at all. I'm just saying, it's like, dude,

1251
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 1: at this point, at this point with Spence and Crawford

1252
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 1: not being made, and really I would say the onus

1253
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 1: is more on Crawford. Given the contractual realities of the

1254
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 1: present moment. You could go back and forth and say

1255
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: the blame goes in different directions from previous points. But

1256
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 1: at this stage it's like, yes, of course, but if

1257
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 1: Spence versus Crawford is not made within this year, it's like,

1258
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 1: I mean, you could probably say this already now, but

1259
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 1: it's like, dude, there's no real good reason why it

1260
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 1: hasn't been made. There are reasons, I'm not sure any

1261
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:08,439
Speaker 1: of them are all that good. If there was real

1262
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 1: interest in the in the power brokers to make this fight,

1263
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 1: it would be made. It just seems kind of silly

1264
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 1: at this point. So everything else, Dude, Spence Ugus this

1265
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,439
Speaker 1: is actually the best fight for Spence to come back

1266
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 1: to in a sense, right because he has been off

1267
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 1: for some time, and Ugas is a real tricky opponent

1268
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 1: with the particular kinds of things that he does. Spence

1269
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 1: beats that. You know, Okay, man, this guy is still

1270
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 1: ready for the very best of that division. Thurman has

1271
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 1: been interesting too. I would love to see it. I'm

1272
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Speaker 1: just saying, look, something could say they love that more

1273
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 1: than Crawford. I don't know what some.

1274
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Speaker 2: Of that is is of course, the wounded, jaded boxing

1275
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 2: fan in me who's saying, you know, forget getting what

1276
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 2: you want, sometimes we don't get it at all. So

1277
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 2: if I can get a thrmon pay per view, of

1278
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 2: course I'm gonna be fired up and excited. And by

1279
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 2: the way, that's a you know, and it's an answer

1280
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 2: we never really got. Like we don't think Keith Thurman

1281
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,120
Speaker 2: is the same Keith Thurman, although credit to him for

1282
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 2: coming back and winning, but still Spence Thurman is a

1283
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 2: fight I always wanted to see the answer to. I

1284
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 2: always wanted to see what that looked like. So you know,

1285
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 2: I'd love to see that. But quickly on knew Gus

1286
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 2: in closing, if you have no idea who this guy is.

1287
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:12,439
Speaker 2: So he's from Cuba, so you know he has that

1288
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 2: pure amateur pedigree. But Luke, he's a lot big. He's

1289
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 2: very big for this weight class, very long arms, so

1290
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 2: he hides behind a high guard and I think almost

1291
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 2: like a think about a little Winkie, right, although he

1292
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 2: was a Southpaw winky Wright with those long arms and

1293
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 2: that responsible guard was really able to close distance without

1294
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 2: giving up too much of his strike zone to be

1295
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 2: countered and start to weigh on you. And even though

1296
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 2: we don't look at us Hugus in spirit as a puncher,

1297
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 2: as a knockout guy, his ability to use that size

1298
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 2: and technique to get close to you and kind of

1299
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 2: body you like he did Manny and then put together

1300
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 2: the smart combinations encounters. He's pretty damn unique Luke in

1301
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 2: terms of what he does. So and if you want

1302
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 2: to know who he beat, it's more of who he

1303
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 2: should have beat. I thought he beat Sean Porter. I

1304
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 2: thought he got screwed by Jack Reese on that knockdown

1305
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 2: in the twelfth round that wasn't called, and that would

1306
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 2: have given Spence. I'm sorry. Ugasa is a split decision

1307
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 2: win over Sean Porter, and that's the version of Porter,

1308
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 2: by the way, who his next fight fought Spence for

1309
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 2: twelve rounds and lost by split decision in the fight

1310
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 2: of the Year. So you know that shows you what

1311
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 2: Ugas has.

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01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then the yes and then one more last

1313
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 1: reminder of this before we switched to quick hitters, that

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Speaker 1: presser go right now. There's a link in the description

1315
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 1: box below if you want to check that out. You

1316
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 1: can do dual screens or wherever you want to bookmarket

1317
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:34,919
Speaker 1: for later if you want to keep watching the show,

1318
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 1: but the stream for Ugas or Spencer versus Spence. Excuse me,

1319
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 1: Junior versus Ugas it is already there. Go check that out. Okay, BC, Last,

1320
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:45,919
Speaker 1: but not least, we go to quick hitters. I love

1321
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 1: this announcement. Valentina Chevchenko is going to take on Tyler

1322
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 1: Santos a UFC two seventy five Tyler Santos PC. This is,

1323
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 1: of course be a woman's flyweight title fight nineteen and one.

1324
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 1: She does have one loss to I think the now

1325
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 1: exiled mar Romero Brella. Yes, Mara Romero Brella from Italy,

1326
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 1: that's the one loss she has. Now. She does have

1327
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 1: some vulnerabilities when it comes to takedown defense or getting

1328
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 1: up off the bottom. It's not her very best work,

1329
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 1: so I'm ald expect you of Schenko to pursue that.

1330
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 1: We even saw on the Gillian Robertson fight although Robertson

1331
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 1: was pulling guard. It's not her best area for work

1332
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 1: on the feet though she's a hammer, great counter striker,

1333
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 1: very good athlete. Dude, nineteen o one, BC, you don't

1334
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 1: get there by accident. How sised are you, in the

1335
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 1: words of DC parlance for this contest.

1336
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 2: Look, I'm I'm very excited that you're excited about this because,

1337
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 2: you know, sharing the news in the CBS slack. Yeah,

1338
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 2: Brandon Wise, my boy, I'm calling you out here. I

1339
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 2: didn't get the same genial or is it genital reaction

1340
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 2: that I was looking for, Luke. I love this fight.

1341
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 2: But why do I love this fight? Mostly because this

1342
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:53,920
Speaker 2: this division is a shoe box full of shit, Luke

1343
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 2: to be you know, to be respectful. It is Luke,

1344
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 2: And there ain't nobody to challenge Valentino. And when we

1345
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 2: thought we had somebody and Jessica Andrage, holy shit, Luke.

1346
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 2: And now look, obviously Jennifer Maya did well in certain respects,

1347
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 2: but still had the same you know result in the end.

1348
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 2: This is at least somebody who's in you know, twenty

1349
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 2: eight and riding a four fight win streak and seems

1350
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 2: to be Luke. Tell me if I'm wrong. At the

1351
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 2: very least Tylia Santos, however, I can butcher that seems

1352
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 2: to have a brighter ceiling to do something big in

1353
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 2: a fight that you didn't expect. That was lacking from

1354
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 2: pretty much every Chevchenko title defense not named Androge up

1355
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 2: to this point, Like you know, Chukegan's okay, and there

1356
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 2: was I and there was all these others, but you

1357
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 2: didn't think there's a chance in hell they're gonna finish

1358
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 2: the champ or dominantly win five rounds. Right, there's at

1359
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 2: least something to Santos where I'm like, oh, let's see

1360
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 2: how how Valentina messes with this.

1361
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 1: You know, listen, do I think that Santos is going

1362
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 1: to be the person to unseat Chevchenko? I guess I

1363
01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 1: would say that. I don't. I don't see that necessarily

1364
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 1: the BC. How many times we have to go through

1365
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 1: it in the case of last week where we have

1366
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 1: Garcia upsetting Colbert, in the case of Catterall not upsetting Taylor,

1367
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:09,400
Speaker 1: but probably should you should have to, and those are

1368
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 1: mandatory challenges. In the women's flyway division, it often feels

1369
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 1: like these are mandatory challengers. These are not people that

1370
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 1: are necessarily wowing you along the way, but they're doing

1371
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 1: just enough to put themselves in a position to get it.

1372
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 1: And I say it all the time, the hardest thing

1373
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 1: to do in MMA is have a weight class title,

1374
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 1: typically a UFC one, and just take on all the

1375
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 1: different contenders that want to crack at you. It's a

1376
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 1: very difficult thing to have that be their biggest night,

1377
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 1: and this just another routine obligation. You have to go

1378
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 1: through these these upsets, these mistakes, so to speak, These

1379
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 1: things you don't see coming. They happen all the time,

1380
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 1: or at least they get threatened all the time. It

1381
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 1: is worth not dismissing Tyler Sentos while recognizing Chevchenko was

1382
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 1: also not here by accident. I'm looking forward to it.

1383
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 1: I find these fights to be sometimes the most illuminating

1384
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 1: ones be see if I can be honest with you, Luke,

1385
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 1: But is it.

1386
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 2: Fair to say that until I can't think of who's

1387
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 2: the UFC fighter that one tough and as a wrestler

1388
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 2: and hasn't foughten like in a crazy long time because

1389
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 2: she's been injured and that has now moved up.

1390
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 1: Oh uh uh I can she beat?

1391
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 2: I spent the last minute unable to find this in

1392
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 2: my brain.

1393
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 1: Luke, Okay, Jesus, yes, I'll find it. Yeah, sorry, she

1394
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 1: has a I mean we're straight up, I mean we're

1395
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:25,439
Speaker 1: the we're the worst people in America right now.

1396
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 2: So to try to sit here and just you know,

1397
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 2: looks like, you know, should I look it up or

1398
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 2: just vape again? That's really where we're at right now, Luke,

1399
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 2: to be fair, you know, I still don't have it.

1400
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 1: She has the she god, what is her name? We

1401
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 1: are old and pathetic.

1402
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 2: You know, she's great. She's a great fighter. No, seriously,

1403
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 2: she's got plus side potential to do something in a

1404
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 2: chef chain go fight, you know, so memorable. I can't

1405
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 2: pull the name. Yeah, can you save us? I mean

1406
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 2: we're just hanging out here, just.

1407
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean she has a Latin name I forgot, and.

1408
01:06:54,440 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 2: She's and there's a piece of wood hanging off of

1409
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 2: a rock from the cliff, and like we're hanging on

1410
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 2: that by like a piece of fabric. You know, who

1411
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 2: is it?

1412
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 1: Actually? AN interviewed her like a dozen times and now

1413
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 1: my shitty, shitty memory doesn't even work.

1414
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 2: I mean, she's basically a BBL.

1415
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 1: Look, come on, I'm serious, dude, this is pathetic. I'm

1416
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 1: trying to find I really Tatiana Suarez. That Tatiana Suarez.

1417
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 2: Finally came back to me. Wow, you know, Luke, is

1418
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 2: it possible to just edit out the last like three

1419
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 2: minutes of talking and well.

1420
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 1: You know, that's the most authentic portion of this show.

1421
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 1: I recommend keeping it in for transparency. Okay, well, Luke,

1422
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 1: with you, we got to hold.

1423
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 2: On, hold on. With the exception of Talia Santo's, is

1424
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 2: there anyone in the top fifteen, whether it's even a

1425
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 2: couple of years away, that has that same feeling that

1426
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 2: you're like, Okay, I'd at least like to see her

1427
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 2: against Chevchenko? Is it? Uh, Macy Barber? Is it Aaron Blanchefield?

1428
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 2: Is it Manon ferroh? Is it Casey O'Neill, do Alexa Grosso?

1429
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 2: Do any of those? You know where you're like, Okay,

1430
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 2: they're still getting finished in the first round tomorrow, but

1431
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 2: give me a couple of years against chev Chenko.

1432
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 1: No, but that doesn't mean anything, you know, we can

1433
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 1: see how things go. But no, the answer your question.

1434
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:17,720
Speaker 2: No, okay, this is the best our work here is done. Luke,

1435
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:18,759
Speaker 2: all right, that's great.

1436
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 1: Let's talk about this. You spoke to Ryan Garcia fresh

1437
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 1: off of leaving Eddie Renoso for Folkshomen. I know that

1438
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:26,800
Speaker 1: is the head trainer of Canelo, the Canelo fight team.

1439
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 1: He has decided to go a different way, although he

1440
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:30,920
Speaker 1: has a new fight coming up. You spoke to him, BC,

1441
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 1: what did you discuss?

1442
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, so here's the deal on this. Ryan Garcia is

1443
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:37,000
Speaker 2: going to be back after a fifteen month layoff. It's

1444
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 2: gonna be April ninth. He's gonna fight Emmanuel to Go

1445
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:43,040
Speaker 2: from Akregana. Nobody really knows that name. But then you go, oh,

1446
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 2: he's thirty two and one from Akrogana. He's going to

1447
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 2: be tough as nails. But Ryan Garcia has had not

1448
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 2: only risk injuries that has delayed him. But Luke, of course,

1449
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:52,679
Speaker 2: he pulled out of that Jojo Diaz fight last summer

1450
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:55,559
Speaker 2: with mental health issues. He's gone on to say he

1451
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:58,640
Speaker 2: did contemplate suicide. So there's a lot going on in

1452
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:00,600
Speaker 2: the life of Ryan Garcia. And then you add in

1453
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:03,719
Speaker 2: that last month he left team Canelo, added Joe Goosen

1454
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 2: as a trainer, and in the past few days, Luke,

1455
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 2: there had been a little bit of back and forth.

1456
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:12,719
Speaker 2: Canelo did an interview with Ellie Setback and he sort

1457
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 2: of openly questioned again Ryan Garcia's work ethic when sort

1458
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 2: of pressed on saying, you know, why did it not

1459
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 2: go wrong right with Ryan and Eddie Reinoso. You're your

1460
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:24,639
Speaker 2: trainer and manager and it was a repeat, Luke, don't

1461
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:29,640
Speaker 2: forget that. Ahead of the Canelo Caleb Plant fight, you know,

1462
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 2: Canelo straight up said he's wasting his career. I don't

1463
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 2: think he works hard enough. Blah blah blah. So Ryan

1464
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 2: didn't like that. Can we throw to the tweets real quick?

1465
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 2: Here Gaff a couple of responses, and I think the

1466
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:44,840
Speaker 2: key response in this four or five tweet thing here

1467
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 2: explaining Ryan Garcia is essentially explaining that other fighters had

1468
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:49,760
Speaker 2: issues with Eddie and Gaff. If we can go to

1469
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 2: the next one, there's sort of a cryptic thing in here.

1470
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 2: The truth also is that it's not even the main

1471
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 2: reason I left. Deciders to part ways. Canello knows why.

1472
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:01,640
Speaker 2: I'm just going to keep it myself and focus on

1473
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 2: the fight I have. So there's something there, Luke. Something

1474
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's money, but there's something there.

1475
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 2: I had Oscar de la Hoya on yesterday. You can

1476
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 2: watch that interview this week on morning on YouTube dot

1477
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 2: com Slash Morning Combat. He had this wacky idea that

1478
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:16,760
Speaker 2: Ryan Garcia is gonna one day fight Canelo at one

1479
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty five pounds and they're gonna settle the beef.

1480
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 2: So all this set up, Luke, I talked to Ryan Garcia.

1481
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 2: Here's the result.

1482
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 3: I mean, I kind of already addressed it on Twitter, right,

1483
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 3: Uh we we kinda just got to speak the facts

1484
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:38,680
Speaker 3: and get on with it. You know, I'm ready to

1485
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 3: fight April ninth. You know this whole would pretend to

1486
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 3: be there's no beef here. I have nothing but respect

1487
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 3: for Canelo. I just I can't let somebody talk about

1488
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 3: my work ethic when it's definitely not true. I'm a

1489
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 3: hard worker and I've always been that, and uh, I'm

1490
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:57,640
Speaker 3: just gonna speak facts. I'm not gonna beef with him.

1491
01:10:57,640 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, you know what the doll is and

1492
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 3: that's it before.

1493
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 2: Okay, So then I say, you know, to close here, Luke.

1494
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 2: Then then what the hell's that real reason you're talking about?

1495
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 2: And I believe gaff tell me if I'm wrong. We've

1496
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 2: got one more piece of business to throw it. You

1497
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 2: teased on social media that there was a reason that

1498
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:21,919
Speaker 2: you haven't shared publicly as to why you switch trainers.

1499
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:24,559
Speaker 2: You said, Canelo, you know that reason, Ryan, what is

1500
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 2: that reason?

1501
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 1: Next question? Please?

1502
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:32,599
Speaker 2: All right, let's close with this then, RAI. I can't

1503
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:35,800
Speaker 2: wait for this return. But we got Oscar in here

1504
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:37,639
Speaker 2: saying he wants you to fight Canelo. At one hundred

1505
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 2: and sixty five pounds one day set him talking. Are

1506
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 2: you talking? Uh?

1507
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:46,559
Speaker 3: April ninth, I'm beating ta Gal's ass.

1508
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 2: Just know that, Uh look, you know that wasn't the

1509
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:56,880
Speaker 2: you know, was that the most non lame way you

1510
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:58,880
Speaker 2: can manly address the question? No, that was that was

1511
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 2: pretty lame, Luke. I mean I don't know who that

1512
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 2: was in the background yelling next question.

1513
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 1: Whenever they do that, whenever they would do that on radio,

1514
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 1: I would just hang up on them. I don't play

1515
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:07,800
Speaker 1: that game, dude.

1516
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:10,000
Speaker 2: That ain't the ship. We need to hear from Ryan Garcia.

1517
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 2: Head here, Luke, quickly, quickly here is there anything to

1518
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 2: this or from oscars comments to Canelo questioning? Is work ethic?

1519
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 2: What are you? What is your confidence level for Ryan Garcia,

1520
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:23,920
Speaker 2: you know, as a put together brand coming back after

1521
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 2: these crazy fifteen months.

1522
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:27,680
Speaker 1: We'll have to discuss that at the next time as

1523
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 1: we move through quick hitters quickly, BC, there we good,

1524
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 1: good work on that, all right, BC, Dillion White, you're

1525
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 1: really speaking of no showing, wow, speaking of no show.

1526
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:42,000
Speaker 1: Come on, dude, we're way over time, right way over time.

1527
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 2: Stay tuned for extra credit with BC after the show.

1528
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 1: Where we uh, yes, yes, I encourage you. Okay, Dillion

1529
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 1: White no shows at the first press conference BC, as

1530
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 1: I understand it, as you make jack off motions and

1531
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 1: get all bitter at me even though we agree to

1532
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 1: move through this quickly.

1533
01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 2: BC. That's what I said, said Luke, Can I get

1534
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 2: quickly we get your take on you know, on important.

1535
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 1: On Garcia, the whole thing. I would say this, he's

1536
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:08,639
Speaker 1: taking an opponent. He's taking an opponent that is quite manageable,

1537
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:10,559
Speaker 1: which is probably the right thing to do coming back.

1538
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 1: But I think your general tenor of being a little

1539
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:16,679
Speaker 1: bit uneasy about all of this, I think is quite right.

1540
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 1: It's the same one I get. You're like, well, he

1541
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:22,720
Speaker 1: could go right back to where he was, but I

1542
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. I need to see how he looks.

1543
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 1: But this, this one fight just won't tell us anything

1544
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 1: other than if he's really bad. Does that make sense? Like,

1545
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 1: if he's okay, he'll win this. If he's really bad

1546
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 1: then he won't. But even if he wins, it doesn't

1547
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 1: give us enough information to make a broader.

1548
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 2: Then and then I'll move. Then I'll move up thirty

1549
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 2: pounds and fight Canal to settle oscars beef right.

1550
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 1: You know that's that that part is silly. That part

1551
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 1: is silly. All right, we in all seriousness. Dillian WHITEBC

1552
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 1: no shows his first fight with Tyson Fury at the

1553
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 1: press conference. Is it my understanding BC that he felt

1554
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 1: like he wasn't getting cut in on extra money from

1555
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 1: the pay per view and so because that he doesn't

1556
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:02,640
Speaker 1: feel like he has to do paid promotion. Is that

1557
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 1: accurate he's doing.

1558
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 2: There's been a split reaction here well, and I want

1559
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 2: to say split. Most of it is people saying, come on,

1560
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:10,880
Speaker 2: Dillian White, like what the f this is your job

1561
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 2: and you aren't you getting paid a career high eight

1562
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 2: million in this fight? After that? You know, wild perspid. Yeah,

1563
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:20,439
Speaker 2: all that this is true? So is this unprofessional? Luke?

1564
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:23,680
Speaker 2: Of course? But he did pull a Lithuanian exit, like

1565
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 2: we like to say Luke jokingly of at least telling

1566
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 2: ahead of time, yeah, I'm not coming. I'm not gonna

1567
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 2: help promote this because you know, you guys aren't cutting

1568
01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 2: me into the pay per view. He's not getting any

1569
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 2: extras beyond his base salary. So look, Top brings the

1570
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 2: lead promoter here because Frank Warren put that you know

1571
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 2: that ridiculously large bid. So they have the the A

1572
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 2: side and they also have the champion by the way,

1573
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 2: So Luke, it kind of is what it is, but

1574
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 2: there is precedence here. Dillion White in the past did

1575
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:52,640
Speaker 2: the same thing to Eddie Herney, walked out of a

1576
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 2: press conference and basically said, you're not paying me enough

1577
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 2: for me to promote this fight for you. So I

1578
01:14:57,479 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 2: think it's part of what makes him dangerous. Dillion White

1579
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:04,599
Speaker 2: to play the villain role and credit to Tyson Fury

1580
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:06,559
Speaker 2: for having the personality had pull it off without him.

1581
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 2: But Luke, whether you think Fury's gonna mop him up

1582
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 2: or not, we gotta fight April twenty third, Like there's

1583
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:13,640
Speaker 2: a fight, dude. I'm fired up for this.

1584
01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 1: I'm fired up for this too. I just feel like

1585
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:18,759
Speaker 1: doing this kind of thing is gonna have Tyson Fury

1586
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:21,719
Speaker 1: eat you alive even before the fight starts. He's gonna

1587
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 1: feed off of this and maybe it is weakness, maybe

1588
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 1: it's not, but he's gonna turn it into weakness and

1589
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:31,240
Speaker 1: then bang Dillion White over the head with it until

1590
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 1: April twenty third, in which case he's just gonna bang

1591
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 1: him in the face. Well that sounds kind of weird,

1592
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 1: but you know what I'm saying.

1593
01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 2: But yes, it looks like it kind of sounds like

1594
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 2: my search history actually to be fair.

1595
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:44,200
Speaker 1: Haang in face there you go. Uh BC, you saw

1596
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 1: this one? I had saw after you sent it. I

1597
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 1: had seen it. Kayla Harrison boy, she had no time

1598
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 1: for Chris Cyborg on Twitter yesterday. Let's see the tweet

1599
01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:52,519
Speaker 1: up there.

1600
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 2: Yeah there was a tweet.

1601
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:56,799
Speaker 1: I think yeah, I think the tweet was originally from

1602
01:15:56,920 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 1: Ariel saying that I guess Bellator had matched PFL. Well

1603
01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:03,519
Speaker 1: she okay, the state the state.

1604
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:05,640
Speaker 2: So like you just said something I don't think was

1605
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:08,800
Speaker 2: reported that Belatormma came to the table apparently in a

1606
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:11,920
Speaker 2: big way with an offer. Ariel reported that and said

1607
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 2: that not only did PFL match it, but that it

1608
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 2: appears that Kayla is headed toward resigning with them. But

1609
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:20,839
Speaker 2: Luke Kayla would go on right after that to tweet

1610
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:24,320
Speaker 2: out how frustrated she was of the whole situation, and

1611
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 2: then came this tweet at Cyborg where she's basically like

1612
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:31,040
Speaker 2: meet me andtomecula. She's like, here's the jim address for

1613
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:35,600
Speaker 2: att like come down and fight me. Now, look what

1614
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 2: does that tell you in relation to how this deal

1615
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:43,600
Speaker 2: situation may have fallen. Apart to her liking.

1616
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 1: It seems, I think she wanted to go elsewhere, and

1617
01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 1: I think she's frustrated that she is not going to

1618
01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 1: end up elsewhere, whether it was UFC or in this case,

1619
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 1: now Belatore made an offer, and so the way it

1620
01:16:57,439 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 1: works is if Bellator makes an offer. We've seen this

1621
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:03,680
Speaker 1: previously with Alvarez and Gilbert Melendez and all that. When

1622
01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 1: Gilbert Melendez was given an offer by Belltour. What ended

1623
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 1: up happening was actually good for the fighters in the

1624
01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:10,599
Speaker 1: sense that you get the most contractually, but there are

1625
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 1: going to be stipulations in fighters contracts that say, Okay,

1626
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:15,559
Speaker 1: that other person, that other entity can make an offer,

1627
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 1: but we have a certain amount of window which if

1628
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 1: we match that offer, we get to retain your services.

1629
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 1: Apparently to the letter, PFL matched the offer, so Beltore

1630
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 1: can't do anything about that unless they, I guess, offer

1631
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 1: a new offer, which I don't know if they will.

1632
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:31,160
Speaker 1: So it looks like she's headed back to PFL. I

1633
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 1: think there's frustration. I think there's frustration about that she's

1634
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:37,559
Speaker 1: making good money and she is certainly getting you know,

1635
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:40,400
Speaker 1: dominant victories, but I think she was looking for a

1636
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:42,960
Speaker 1: new gear. And I don't know if this new PFL contract,

1637
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:45,840
Speaker 1: well it might be financially lucrative, is going to provide that.

1638
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 2: Luke does the ESPN situation with UFC being the MMA

1639
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:54,320
Speaker 2: face of the channel by far, and although PFL is

1640
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:56,680
Speaker 2: a very good TV deal, it seems and they do

1641
01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:59,559
Speaker 2: get you know, prime placement on what ESPN two and

1642
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 2: you know the and all that they're still the junior player.

1643
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:04,599
Speaker 2: How much does that factor into the idea, Because if

1644
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:07,519
Speaker 2: you're frustrated to just go, okay, well how about we

1645
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 2: do this. How about it's not about titles. How about

1646
01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 2: bellatorp PFL get together, they sign a two fight pay

1647
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 2: per view series and either let each other promote Eat

1648
01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 2: one in one or we come together for a dual

1649
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:22,679
Speaker 2: pay per view. Is that impossible because of the UFCESPN situation.

1650
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 1: It's not impossible. But what I would say is this

1651
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 1: is the problem with Kayla. Kayla's trying to get to

1652
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 1: a scenario where she has enough fame and leverage to

1653
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 1: force if not that situation, just force the promoters to

1654
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:37,760
Speaker 1: bend to her will a little bit more. But she

1655
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:41,080
Speaker 1: needs to get bigger name opponents and more clout, so

1656
01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 1: to speak. I'm not using that word in the pejorative sense,

1657
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:47,840
Speaker 1: but I just mean the amount of sway that she

1658
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:50,759
Speaker 1: has over these matters. She needs bigger fights and bigger

1659
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 1: leverage to do that. But she can't do that because

1660
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:56,960
Speaker 1: she's still stuck in this situation. So I take your point,

1661
01:18:57,000 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 1: But she's not Connor could do something like that, or

1662
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:02,880
Speaker 1: even someone even Nate could do something like that if

1663
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:05,679
Speaker 1: he was playing in the in this space. Not not

1664
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:07,760
Speaker 1: not not not not her unfortunately not yet.

1665
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:12,519
Speaker 2: Anyway, BC, this is okay for rolling. There are enough

1666
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:15,680
Speaker 2: fighters in Belatour beyond Cyborg that could make that that

1667
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 2: deal actually work for Kayla to fight for pay per view, No,

1668
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:24,120
Speaker 2: for Kayla to join Belatour on a massive.

1669
01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:30,280
Speaker 1: If they had Cyborg and another name. Maybe not not

1670
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 1: right as it stands.

1671
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't even have probably everything else. Yeah, I

1672
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:36,200
Speaker 2: don't even have Julia but anymore.

1673
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:39,360
Speaker 1: So Yeah, exactly exactly all right, BC, you'll love this one.

1674
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:41,200
Speaker 1: The King of Connecticut, I know you love this guy.

1675
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 1: Glover to Shia. He is still gonna fight Yuri Prolhatchka.

1676
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:46,240
Speaker 1: This is a small note, but they're gonna move it

1677
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:48,840
Speaker 1: to UFC two seventy five. Let me get the date

1678
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:51,639
Speaker 1: on this before I may any reaction to this. It's

1679
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 1: not the biggest news in the world of No.

1680
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:56,439
Speaker 2: I freaking love the fight. Yeah, that's cool, let's do it, Loug.

1681
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 1: That will be June eleventh at a T TBD location.

1682
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:04,080
Speaker 1: We don't have that yet. Also on that card, BC

1683
01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:06,439
Speaker 1: is supposed to be the Valentina Shipchenko Tyler Santos, but

1684
01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:08,680
Speaker 1: they will have to see and then there you go.

1685
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 1: June eleventh is the one that's supposed to be and last,

1686
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 1: but not least PC. This is for you, Amanda Hebas

1687
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 1: versus Michelle Waterson, which I think was originally scheduled for

1688
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 1: some time ago, has been rescheduled for UFC two seventy four. BC.

1689
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:25,160
Speaker 1: Why do you love this fight so much? Because I

1690
01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:25,559
Speaker 1: know you do.

1691
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:29,760
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, are we doing a We're doing

1692
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:32,000
Speaker 2: a Patreon show to talk about this fight, Luke? I mean,

1693
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 2: what are you what you trying to do to me? Now?

1694
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:35,559
Speaker 2: I'm kidding. No, I do love this fight for all

1695
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:39,759
Speaker 2: the genuine legitimate reasons. Fired up for it. Thank you, hopefully,

1696
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:41,800
Speaker 2: miss By the way, this is get a tad on

1697
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 2: the other arm after this win too as well. Yes,

1698
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:44,280
Speaker 2: thank you.

1699
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:46,040
Speaker 1: This will be May seventh. I don't know if we

1700
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:47,680
Speaker 1: have a location for this one yet either, but this

1701
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:50,639
Speaker 1: will be the ola Vera Gaegee card, so that should

1702
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 1: be a ton of fun. A lot of women's fights

1703
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 1: on this card already, by the way, so be on

1704
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 1: the lookout for that. Okay, BC, that is it for

1705
01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:01,400
Speaker 1: the fast quick hitters. It is time for fan subs.

1706
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:05,479
Speaker 2: Yeah. Morningcombat at gmail dot com is the preferred email

1707
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 2: for Wednesday's fan subs Friday's dead wrongs. Usually it's pictures

1708
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 2: of you guys wearing off sized MK shirts, but sometimes

1709
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 2: you make us laugh too. It's called fan submissions. We've

1710
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 2: got mail, okay, yeah great. We only have a few

1711
01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:25,559
Speaker 2: of them this week, Luke, So that should entice the

1712
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:28,800
Speaker 2: haters to stick around. Alfonso says, how to make up

1713
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 2: the mistaken MK with some real merch. This fanny pack

1714
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:37,200
Speaker 2: is legit. Thanks guys, keep with the shameless advertising. It

1715
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 2: fucking works lol. Also, Luke got his BBL love from

1716
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:45,800
Speaker 2: that Marine Corps time exclamation point. I see you, Luke,

1717
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 2: loll Brian won't get that one. Hands down, Marine and

1718
01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:53,599
Speaker 2: Navy women crush the other services, Luke, this guy's talking

1719
01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:57,599
Speaker 2: about some some government BBL here. Is he on point

1720
01:21:57,600 --> 01:21:57,760
Speaker 2: with this?

1721
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:01,639
Speaker 1: He is? He is not on point whatsoever. I made

1722
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:06,280
Speaker 1: it a point to absolutely never date inside the military ever.

1723
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:11,840
Speaker 2: Wow, Wow, you're not going to ride that train, Luke

1724
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 2: at all.

1725
01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna not say I'm going to just like

1726
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to work around it and say doesn't work

1727
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:19,960
Speaker 1: for me, I'll put it there.

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01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:22,519
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Hey, shout out to Alfonso for buying

1729
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:23,559
Speaker 2: our merch just the same.

1730
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:25,040
Speaker 1: That fanny pack was just the same.

1731
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 2: Don't let any of your friends tell you it looks bad.

1732
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:30,960
Speaker 2: That fanny pack looks manly on you. Danger Mouse is

1733
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:33,920
Speaker 2: here and says last week Luke said he didn't remember

1734
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 2: the people who sent in this stuff. Well, these memes

1735
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:41,520
Speaker 2: are ten percent luck, twenty percent skill, fifteen percent concentrated

1736
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:46,000
Speaker 2: power of will, five percent pleasure, fifty percent pain, and

1737
01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:49,639
Speaker 2: one hundred percent reason to remember the name Danger Mouse.

1738
01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:52,479
Speaker 2: And if you wrap that BC, I'll be impressed. Man,

1739
01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 2: I should have wrapped that shit, Luke.

1740
01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:57,320
Speaker 1: Now he did Lincoln Park lyrics to me eating Ramen noodles.

1741
01:22:57,320 --> 01:22:58,160
Speaker 1: What am I missing here?

1742
01:22:58,800 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 2: I don't know?

1743
01:22:59,360 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 1: Is that?

1744
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:05,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair, Luke. One day that is fair. One

1745
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 2: day that you know they didn't.

1746
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:14,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, Next one, Aurora Borealis Aurora boyalis BC

1747
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:21,200
Speaker 1: under pressure from Luke. It's not wrong though, Aurora Borealis

1748
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:24,559
Speaker 1: Ariela Boreal. That's very good. That's actually very very good.

1749
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 1: That's very funny.

1750
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 2: And Luke has Conan the Destroyer. I mean, it never gets.

1751
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 1: That's a good photo shop BC. That's a good photo. That

1752
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:33,839
Speaker 1: looks very accurate.

1753
01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:37,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks real, same skin tone too. And finally

1754
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:41,800
Speaker 2: from Danger Mouse Luke, all right, all right, thank you sir.

1755
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:45,360
Speaker 1: You know that's not red Sonia because that was a

1756
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:49,480
Speaker 1: different movie. But what was her name in the movie?

1757
01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:51,240
Speaker 2: I don't remember?

1758
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:56,240
Speaker 1: Okay, who was who was the strawweight who could wrestle.

1759
01:23:57,680 --> 01:24:02,479
Speaker 2: Tatiana Suarez? Alright, so he claims Luke that that Ramen

1760
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:05,120
Speaker 2: was you overdoing the gummies.

1761
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 1: All right, Well that's a terrible I mean this segment.

1762
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:11,639
Speaker 2: I mean, this is why we they say we should

1763
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:14,680
Speaker 2: get rid of this segment. All right, Uh, what's this

1764
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:17,559
Speaker 2: man's name? I don't want to say an ethnic slour.

1765
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:22,040
Speaker 2: What's this guy's name? He says? Chris Rock once said

1766
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 2: as a father. You have one job to do, keep

1767
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 2: your daughter off the pole. In our MK universe rooftop diaries. Aside,

1768
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 2: co hosts have one job to do keep BC off

1769
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:36,479
Speaker 2: the pole. I know you guys were disappointed there was

1770
01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:38,840
Speaker 2: no X rayed viewing across the way like last time.

1771
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:41,719
Speaker 2: But good lord, gents, this is not the answer BC

1772
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:47,840
Speaker 2: making rooftop pole riding look easy. Amazing content. Blah blah blah.

1773
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:56,000
Speaker 2: It's JP. It's not jap Guss, it's JP from Mount You, Nike, Nova, Scotia. Luke, okay,

1774
01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:56,960
Speaker 2: all right.

1775
01:24:57,439 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 1: This is a great This is an open mic night

1776
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 1: right here. Yeah, it's like, all right, bro Carl about

1777
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:11,880
Speaker 1: airline food. Huh uh.

1778
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:15,439
Speaker 2: Wes says, no, corpse Grinder isn't the app that Luke

1779
01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:18,719
Speaker 2: searches when he reaches the darkest corners of the internet

1780
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:23,759
Speaker 2: from subpar McDonald's Wi Fi COVID filled hotel rooms. Corpse

1781
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:28,120
Speaker 2: Grinder is the best neck in the game, That's true.

1782
01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:34,120
Speaker 2: Singer songwriter of LT's Childhood Trauma and Today's visual guide

1783
01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:39,040
Speaker 2: of BC's emotions while watching Adasnya Whittaker too, thanks for

1784
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 2: giving us that sweet content. PS. Gas station dogs don't

1785
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:47,240
Speaker 2: win Brian's livers loss all that this is.

1786
01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:49,840
Speaker 1: This is the lead singer of Cannibal Corpse. His name

1787
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:52,880
Speaker 1: is Corpse Grinder, and I gotta say BC, first of all,

1788
01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:55,080
Speaker 1: respect that neck. I mean, just look at that thing

1789
01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 1: number two. You like the T shirt?

1790
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:03,360
Speaker 2: Luke, I like, I mean outside of the charity he

1791
01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:05,439
Speaker 2: does in his free time, and that you claim he's

1792
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:08,519
Speaker 2: a great dad. I want nothing to do with this band, Luke,

1793
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:10,320
Speaker 2: I mean, what what what is in that one?

1794
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:12,519
Speaker 1: What about? What about the other band he's pimping their

1795
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:13,479
Speaker 1: cancer slug?

1796
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:17,880
Speaker 2: You know, how do you openly support this, Luke?

1797
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:22,560
Speaker 1: You know, I mean because it's because it's fucking greatly.

1798
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:25,800
Speaker 2: I hope w Kamal Bell ends up doing it a

1799
01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:28,360
Speaker 2: hard hitting documentary on Cannibal Corpse fans.

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01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:28,639
Speaker 1: Luke.

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01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:30,720
Speaker 2: I hope that next. I hope that's the next. I'll

1802
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:35,439
Speaker 2: be day one dat, just like like Cosby supporters. Luke. Okay,

1803
01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:38,200
Speaker 2: you do have to ask yourself, am I gonna separate

1804
01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:39,200
Speaker 2: the art from the artist?

1805
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:44,120
Speaker 1: Luke? Yes, in this case, you can long live Corpse

1806
01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:45,120
Speaker 1: Grinder your life.

1807
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:49,840
Speaker 2: Uh. Michael says, great show on Monday, guys. I appreciate

1808
01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:53,320
Speaker 2: the daring new format and suggests it be applied whenever

1809
01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:58,520
Speaker 2: BC talks about boxing gay Chee versus Habib or Adisania

1810
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:01,880
Speaker 2: Whittaker too. At a time when the world seems to

1811
01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:04,280
Speaker 2: be coming to an end and Ukrainians are demonstrating what

1812
01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:07,200
Speaker 2: can be achieved under even the most challenging conditions, it's

1813
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:11,960
Speaker 2: refreshing that morning combat stays the same. Yeah, Luke, Yeah,

1814
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:15,880
Speaker 2: he's I mean, wait, you know, what do you want

1815
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:16,840
Speaker 2: me to say to that, Luke?

1816
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:21,040
Speaker 1: Fairly accurate? That was a good one, you.

1817
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:23,520
Speaker 2: Know, by the way, that was me kicking the plugout

1818
01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:26,719
Speaker 2: and the satellite pack turned off. I mean, well, it's great,

1819
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:30,879
Speaker 2: It's great. Okay, Finally, Luke Jason, says Jay from Boston.

1820
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 2: Here back for the seventh time. My submissions today are

1821
01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:36,960
Speaker 2: dedicated to the train wreck that was the second half

1822
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:40,360
Speaker 2: of Monday's show. Wow. First, on a lighter note, due

1823
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:44,160
Speaker 2: to BC's spot on prediction about the Musaci Vanderford fight

1824
01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:48,840
Speaker 2: he retired to he referred to himself as nostradonkis. So

1825
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:52,679
Speaker 2: this is my version with BC as The Chappelle Show's

1826
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:56,720
Speaker 2: Negro damis played by the late great Paul Mooney. Wow,

1827
01:27:57,600 --> 01:27:59,760
Speaker 2: is he white facing Paul Mooney? Here, Luke, I don't

1828
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:00,720
Speaker 2: know if I want to be a part of this.

1829
01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:03,040
Speaker 1: Yes, he is white facing. And then but I like

1830
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:05,559
Speaker 1: how we put no stra dunk ass because it would

1831
01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:08,800
Speaker 1: be it would be no stro don Muss. You just said,

1832
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 1: fuck it. Let's just take that and turn it into

1833
01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:11,320
Speaker 1: an ass.

1834
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:14,800
Speaker 2: By the way, love love the Chappelle Show as anyone

1835
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:17,439
Speaker 2: else rightfully should. And next check out My guy BC

1836
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:20,240
Speaker 2: around the one hour fifteen minute mark. For the love

1837
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:22,840
Speaker 2: of god, b C, could you please scratch the itchy

1838
01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:26,400
Speaker 2: dead skin off your back while you're not on camera.

1839
01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:30,800
Speaker 2: And that face you're making is something that dunks never

1840
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:32,439
Speaker 2: need to see again.

1841
01:28:33,160 --> 01:28:35,280
Speaker 1: Look at my face. Look at my face in this

1842
01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:38,200
Speaker 1: in this screenshot, I mean that is that tells the story.

1843
01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:42,040
Speaker 2: And finally, this one, last one pretty much sums up

1844
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:45,479
Speaker 2: the last few minutes of Monday Show. I don't know

1845
01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:47,640
Speaker 2: if there's another oneho that's it, but Luke, oh here

1846
01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:55,000
Speaker 2: it is. Yeah, Oh that's so good. A Jay from Boston.

1847
01:28:55,040 --> 01:28:57,920
Speaker 2: That's so good. Luke. You know I give you a

1848
01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:02,320
Speaker 2: lot of on an off screen hankering. No, that's the

1849
01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:07,000
Speaker 2: wrong word, abuse for vapor, like a white trash piece

1850
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:10,360
Speaker 2: of shit. I don't know award winning live broadcast. But

1851
01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:14,640
Speaker 2: the combination of me allowing my feet to air on

1852
01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:19,559
Speaker 2: the documentary Bear and making this the backscratch face on air,

1853
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:22,920
Speaker 2: I do have to cop to that that there are

1854
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:26,920
Speaker 2: things I accept as normal that to others are absolutely disgusting.

1855
01:29:28,120 --> 01:29:33,200
Speaker 1: Well, you are a trifling, horrible person, but I still

1856
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:35,360
Speaker 1: tolerate you and love you just the same. Thank you.

1857
01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:37,360
Speaker 1: That was our show today. Thumbs up on the video

1858
01:29:37,439 --> 01:29:41,160
Speaker 1: hit subscribe, Reminder, reminder, reminder, you can still that's still

1859
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1860
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Speaker 1: It's official April sixteenth, Showtime pay per view. You can

1861
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1865
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Speaker 1: remind folks, Friday show will be here. But if you

1866
01:29:57,200 --> 01:29:59,080
Speaker 1: want to get into the dead wrongs, Morning Combat at

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Speaker 1: gmail dot com and Saint Patrick's Day Merch, Saint Patrick's

1868
01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:07,160
Speaker 1: Day Merch is up now Morningcombat dot Store. We see

1869
01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:09,360
Speaker 1: any final thoughts before we call it a day.

1870
01:30:09,439 --> 01:30:12,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm talking to Bryce Mitchell today from

1871
01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:12,880
Speaker 2: Morning Combat.

1872
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:16,120
Speaker 1: Luke, there you go. That should be a fun interview.

1873
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:19,679
Speaker 1: By the way, his fight is super exciting fight against

1874
01:30:19,720 --> 01:30:20,439
Speaker 1: Edson Barbosa.

1875
01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:23,680
Speaker 2: Love love love that fight, Luke. If we do, if

1876
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:25,879
Speaker 2: we talk to r J and we do make January

1877
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:29,240
Speaker 2: sixth merch, will Bryce Mitchell wear it to the octagon.

1878
01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:31,080
Speaker 1: We would have to sponsor him. They have to do

1879
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:32,640
Speaker 1: it right, they have to do it right. But we

1880
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:36,600
Speaker 1: can try. We can try. Uh okay, BC, that is

1881
01:30:36,640 --> 01:30:38,479
Speaker 1: it for us. Thank you guys so much for watching.

1882
01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:40,720
Speaker 1: This will be up on the podcast very soon and

1883
01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:44,040
Speaker 1: in for Malka for showtime for CBS Sports. That's Brian,

1884
01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:46,720
Speaker 1: I'm Luca. Until next time, all of your games, b

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Speaker 1: Lloyd