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Speaker 2: Bringing it up, I did the Rico dance. You know why,
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Speaker 3: I love it. You shout it out, big Nate. I
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Speaker 3: So all right, news and notes.
Speaker 2: The Cowboys are back on the practice field today.
Speaker 3: Sorry, that's all they say at my house now they anyways,
Speaker 3: Dad's no. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So Cowboys back on the practice field today for the
Speaker 2: first time this week to start preparing for the visiting
Speaker 2: Washington Commanders. Based on the conversations that were had and
Speaker 2: heard over the radio with Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones
Speaker 2: and even Brian Schottenheimer, he played it. He downplayed a
Speaker 2: little bit, which is kind of on brand for him
Speaker 2: as the head coach. He wants to see these guys
Speaker 2: on practice on the practice field first, but he did
Speaker 2: express the same optimism with Jerry Jones saying thumbs up,
Speaker 2: thumbs up on Ceedee Lamb and Cavante Turpin and possibly
Speaker 2: likely even returning this week.
Speaker 3: To take on the Washington commander.
Speaker 2: So it could be some firepower on the way for
Speaker 2: the Cowboys offensive side of the ball.
Speaker 3: Well, no, see, what does that do for the defense?
Speaker 2: Not a damn thing, But it does help the offense
Speaker 2: even more, so, I got to tell you, And those
Speaker 2: are two big weapons. Obviously, goes without saying. The expectation
Speaker 2: is also that Carson, Kayln Carson, and Jonathan Mingo. So
Speaker 2: Kaylyn Carson is your defensive help. That's on the way.
Speaker 2: You can view that however you choose to view it.
Speaker 2: He and Jonathan Mingo are expected to be activated to
Speaker 2: the fifty three man roster this week. Cowboys really have
Speaker 2: until next Wednesday to make that decision, but sounds like
Speaker 2: they're gonna make.
Speaker 3: It this week. We'll see.
Speaker 2: They did waive wide receiver Jalen Cropper yesterday to make
Speaker 2: room for at least one of those guys. He will
Speaker 2: go through waivers over the next twenty four hours or
Speaker 2: twenty four hours from yesterday, So we'll know today at
Speaker 2: some point, no later than three o'clock Central time, if
Speaker 2: he cleared and if he clear expectation and the hope
Speaker 2: is from the Cowboys that he returns to the practice squad.
Speaker 3: What do you believe? I believe he clears. Yeah, he'll clear.
Speaker 3: Have you seen it?
Speaker 5: And remember he was on the practice squad the entirety
Speaker 5: of the season, so teams have had ample opportunity. But yeah,
Speaker 5: he played a little bit. But I don't think want
Speaker 5: to change.
Speaker 3: I think you're fine. Yeah, I think he clears.
Speaker 2: And if he doesn't clear, then congrats to him and
Speaker 2: wishing well no matter what happens. You know, obviously wishing
Speaker 2: well if he's on the practice squad here because you
Speaker 2: want to got to do well. And if he gets
Speaker 2: claimed by another team, that means another team also believed
Speaker 2: in him, and you know, shouts out to him for that.
Speaker 2: So as it stands, that's the only transaction, the corresponding move.
Speaker 2: As far as activating Carson or Mingo, that hasn't happened yet,
Speaker 2: so give it another day or too. We'll see which
Speaker 2: one of those two things happens, if not both.
Speaker 5: So if they activate, so that they're leaving that spot.
Speaker 3: Open for a moment, but you know how it goes.
Speaker 3: It does, so something done.
Speaker 5: So with that spot open, and they would need to
Speaker 5: clear one more spot, yes, if they want in order
Speaker 5: to reactivate Mingo and Carson at that point.
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, who you think that person would be? That's
Speaker 3: the question. I guess.
Speaker 5: I don't want to throw names out.
Speaker 3: There if you're going to bite on the cheese.
Speaker 1: Geez.
Speaker 5: It may also be one of those situations where there's
Speaker 5: an injury that we don't know about quite yet, of course,
Speaker 5: where it was an injury depth guy ends up with
Speaker 5: an ankle something like that. R ing, Yeah, what was that?
Speaker 3: Ing?
Speaker 5: Yeah, something like that. Yes, you got to get something's
Speaker 5: on it.
Speaker 6: In terms of uh cause, I know I think there's
Speaker 6: a conversation there and when you're talking about Kayln Carson
Speaker 6: coming back, I don't know if that's necessarily help on
Speaker 6: the way, Like you said, you choose can interpret that
Speaker 6: how they interpret that. But just curious to you guys,
Speaker 6: does it sort of feel like having Kalen Carson back
Speaker 6: into the fold? Does it feel like sort of like
Speaker 6: a starting over with kaal and Carson because you didn't
Speaker 6: necessarily get to see him play very well or very
Speaker 6: much in his rookie season.
Speaker 5: It's a great question because I think he has had
Speaker 5: a reset period, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's just trying to get healthy.
Speaker 5: He's just trying to stay healthy enough to wear because
Speaker 5: even he.
Speaker 3: Played through injury. Remember when he played at.
Speaker 5: The end of his time playing, he played through some
Speaker 5: some different things. I think this is his final clean slate.
Speaker 5: You get the opportunity, you get him out there and
Speaker 5: you'd see what you hope you were getting out of
Speaker 5: the draft and in his opening training camp and things
Speaker 5: like that. It's on that opening game in Cleveland where
Speaker 5: he played well. I think all of those things are true.
Speaker 5: But you also have to have the expectation that he
Speaker 5: won't be an immediate help, and that is there's going
Speaker 5: to be a little bit of a ramp.
Speaker 3: Up period there.
Speaker 6: But would it be safe to say that you might
Speaker 6: have an upgrade over a guy like kyer Elim.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe that's what you're hoping for and that's all
Speaker 2: you can hope for. And I do agree. I do
Speaker 2: think this is a reset for Kaitlyn Carson. I think
Speaker 2: this is basically a blowout the cartridge type thing OG reference.
Speaker 3: That's a great you know, So this is putting in your.
Speaker 2: Shirt, blow up the cartridge, put it in the if
Speaker 2: it works, and.
Speaker 3: Playing Donkey Kong guntry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think that's what it is and what
Speaker 2: it has to be for Kailing Carson like you mentioned,
Speaker 2: and like I said, a time or two double dribble
Speaker 2: like I.
Speaker 5: Played that the other day NBA jam What was it?
Speaker 3: No double dribble dribble before different before your time.
Speaker 5: I thought it was an NBA JAM reference.
Speaker 3: Before I didn't know what the reference was. My bad.
Speaker 5: It's a double.
Speaker 7: Dribble bther this guy.
Speaker 5: All right, guys, appreciate you here talking cowboys.
Speaker 3: It's been so much. He doesn't know anything about double dribble,
Speaker 3: and I know it before his time. Sorry about Kyle's
Speaker 3: a sound basketball player. Apologies, wouldn't know what the double
Speaker 3: dribbles if it hit him, you know, you know it's
Speaker 3: kind of crazy though. We don't have any sponsors in
Speaker 3: terms of that.
Speaker 2: But my sister, my sister just sent me some old
Speaker 2: stuff from like like my mom's house. She was cleaning out,
Speaker 2: like the basement and the garage and all that. She
Speaker 2: sent me my old high school double bag. Okay, and
Speaker 2: it had. She sent me my PlayStation original one PS one,
Speaker 2: but the original bro with the game loads in the top.
Speaker 2: Bro me on C double A all my C double
Speaker 2: A games and everything.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 3: I'm about the hook it up with my son's one thing.
Speaker 5: I will never forgive my sister, never forgive her for it,
Speaker 5: and she'll she knows this to this day when she
Speaker 5: was When we were kids and I had my original PlayStation, my.
Speaker 3: Parents saved up money.
Speaker 5: We didn't come from a ton of money, saved it up.
Speaker 5: Me got it for Christmas, parents or Christmas present, and
Speaker 5: it was the coolest present I had ever gotten in
Speaker 5: my life. My sister like two weeks after getting it,
Speaker 5: maybe a little more more like two months after getting it,
Speaker 5: she was probably five or six. She like when it
Speaker 5: was open, the cartridge was open, there was a little
Speaker 5: ring at the top, and she thought like it was
Speaker 5: a ring that you could put on your finger, So
Speaker 5: she like clicked it off and put it on like
Speaker 5: a like as like jewelry. And I remember trying to
Speaker 5: click my CD my game back in the top and
Speaker 5: I was like it won't spin. Why is it not spinning?
Speaker 5: And I was like where is this part? Like I
Speaker 5: don't know what's going on. I was probably ten years old.
Speaker 5: I didn't know what to do. And I looked around
Speaker 5: and she had it on her finger and it was
Speaker 5: like no way. We took it to a place they
Speaker 5: couldn't fix it at the time, and I ended up
Speaker 5: like not getting I never got to play that PlayStation ever.
Speaker 3: Your sister wanted to get married. I don't know if
Speaker 3: it was on a ring finger. I think it may
Speaker 3: have been on one of the other ones.
Speaker 5: By the way, By the way, Double Dribble was released
Speaker 5: in nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 2: Yeah, day was amazing, amazing As as someone who has sisters,
Speaker 2: I can just tell you right now, the payback that
Speaker 2: would have occurred.
Speaker 3: Against their dolls. Their dolls would have.
Speaker 2: Been it would have looked like a scene from Sauce Pain.
Speaker 2: It would have a scene from Actually Can take over.
Speaker 5: Here twenty five years later, I'm still feeling trauma.
Speaker 3: That one hurts.
Speaker 2: Speaking of things that hurt, came a cart person did
Speaker 2: play through injury last year.
Speaker 3: I tried to pull a county that that was good.
Speaker 2: Kayln Carson did play through injury, And like I mentioned
Speaker 2: a few times on the show, I had some some
Speaker 2: really in depth off the record conversations with that young man,
Speaker 2: and he told me about the shoulder struggles also and
Speaker 2: how that compromised his ability to tackle. Because he was
Speaker 2: honest with me. He was like, hey, when your shoulder
Speaker 2: is you know, popping in and out. Yep, you lose
Speaker 2: the willingness to go hit, to go hit. That was
Speaker 2: part of his draft tape. That was the good thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. People say, well he's said, hey, he's he's
Speaker 3: whiffing on. Yeah, you know, what is it.
Speaker 2: I've had three evidence, three labor evidence, as is talking
Speaker 2: to this day.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 2: It's still mentally is like, oh yeah, I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: throw that arm out there. So now that Kevin Carson
Speaker 2: is completely healthy and has so much time removed from
Speaker 2: the shoulder issues, like you said, hard reset, now let's
Speaker 2: see if he's willing to get his body back out there.
Speaker 2: Let's see if one of the green flags coming out this.
Speaker 5: Is his final chance.
Speaker 2: No, you don't thinks so, no, no, no, no, no, no, okay,
Speaker 2: I don't think it can be when you're struggling with
Speaker 2: guys like how you're elam and.
Speaker 3: Right current situation.
Speaker 6: In the future of some of those guys to this
Speaker 6: defense in particular.
Speaker 2: Exactly, So I don't feel like this as we have
Speaker 2: this conversation to him being activated likely this week, I
Speaker 2: don't think this is the final chance. I think that
Speaker 2: you know, as long as he's serviceable, at this point,
Speaker 2: that's something to build on.
Speaker 6: He just has to get back on track, and that's
Speaker 6: something that he wasn't able to do. Like we're saying,
Speaker 6: from the shoulder injury last year, even when he was
Speaker 6: trying to grit through it and play through it.
Speaker 3: It's it's a hard reset.
Speaker 6: If he's one hundred percent healthy, just let him start
Speaker 6: from one.
Speaker 3: Does he come in and leap frog on the depth chart?
Speaker 3: I can't imagine how hard that would be.
Speaker 2: I agree with that, but I don't think immediately because
Speaker 2: I think that they have to feel him out as
Speaker 2: far as like Grace, I mean, you're coming off of
Speaker 2: an injury, then another injury to had you in ir
Speaker 2: to start this season.
Speaker 3: So he'll get opport unity.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my point. You get opportunities and he might
Speaker 2: leap frog.
Speaker 5: How much that I.
Speaker 6: Mean if they are competing every day, then I can't
Speaker 6: imagine it'll be that hard for him the leap flower frog.
Speaker 3: But give him a couple of weeks or so, it
Speaker 3: could happen.
Speaker 6: But that situation has turned since.
Speaker 2: But that would be ideal for the Cowboys if Kiln
Speaker 2: Carson kind of histor ground running and leap frog's anybody
Speaker 2: on the depth charge and that's a good sign for him.
Speaker 6: And that's not to mention sivone revel either.
Speaker 3: Who's on the come up? Where's he at still still?
Speaker 3: So do we have any word as the not a thing.
Speaker 5: The the entire stance of the organization is that there
Speaker 5: has not been a setback. But I my opinion, just
Speaker 5: my opinion, I don't like using that. They don't like
Speaker 5: using it period. I I think it looks like.
Speaker 2: I will say this based in evidence to what Kayla saying,
Speaker 2: I don't know that there's been a setback and not
Speaker 2: been a setback. I can tell you that he's now
Speaker 2: working in a race and he was not worth working
Speaker 2: on a brace initially. So do with that information what
Speaker 2: you will.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just it's tough to kind of really tell
Speaker 5: because we're not behind the scenes and we don't have
Speaker 5: the one the training or to the eyes of the
Speaker 5: training staff to get on it. But the information you
Speaker 5: can get take context clues of oh, he was going
Speaker 5: to be back within the first month of the season.
Speaker 5: If you were a month and a half in and
Speaker 5: he hasn't even gotten on the grass, can.
Speaker 3: You please remind the people as to where he was
Speaker 3: drafted at third round, third round, and the expectation was
Speaker 3: for him to be back.
Speaker 5: When hasn't happened yet?
Speaker 3: All right?
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Speaker 3: That's like one of the best logos ever. Like, you
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Speaker 3: It's a comfortable shirt.
Speaker 2: But you can't see on that particular logos he's holding
Speaker 2: like a you know, a weapon.
Speaker 3: And you know, black rifle, Black rifle. Yeah, I was like,
Speaker 3: this is probably not the shirt to wear on the
Speaker 3: American airlines, like that one doing the ape.
Speaker 2: Not your regular size human walking on a plane with
Speaker 2: a black what a freaking I don't even know what
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Speaker 2: when you walk on an airplane? So my wife used
Speaker 2: to be a flight attendant, and did you know that
Speaker 2: when you walk on an airplane, the flight attendants are
Speaker 2: what's the.
Speaker 3: Best way to say, they're profile.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're profiling you to see who can help in
Speaker 2: an emergency situation?
Speaker 3: Do you guys know that? Really?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: case of an emergency? Who can I go up to
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Speaker 3: That explains why I'm always like, oh hi, how's it
Speaker 3: going there? Bro? So every.
Speaker 2: Ever since I was made aware of that, like I
Speaker 2: can literally see, I can see when I'm being profiled
Speaker 2: in that way, right, now negative profile, but profile. I'm
Speaker 2: super aware now, Like they look at you, they're like, hey, I'm.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, you just put me in that bucket. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yes, Tokyo Google, if you seen it, you know what
Speaker 3: else you've seen? What else have I seen?
Speaker 5: You've seen some film? Because it's time for a little
Speaker 5: bit of QB.
Speaker 3: Why Eddie, why Eddie cut up?
Speaker 4: It's time for QB vision with Isaiah's standback.
Speaker 3: Let me go.
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about it. Not a whole lot
Speaker 2: to talk about because you guys already know this, all right.
Speaker 2: I know our listeners are educated because we always ensure
Speaker 2: that you are the what smartest ones in the room.
Speaker 2: You know this guy, you know, dan Quinn Washington Commanders.
Speaker 2: He was for a number of years a little bit
Speaker 2: he had defense balling. He changed the culture over here,
Speaker 2: so we know what he's all about. Who does he
Speaker 2: have over there that you're familiar with.
Speaker 3: Well, there's a handful of guys. Doris Armstrong kind of
Speaker 3: know him.
Speaker 2: He's a little before a little bit beat up right now,
Speaker 2: hamstring issues in and out the game, but you know
Speaker 2: what he provides when he is there. Other names, Okay,
Speaker 2: he has some veteran contributors. It's just nine, yeah, ninety.
Speaker 2: Doron Pain he's still a dude. He's still a due.
Speaker 2: Deron Pain is still a dude. Is he as much
Speaker 2: of a dude as he once was? I don't believe so,
Speaker 2: but you still gotta respect him. Yeahs is not so
Speaker 2: good right now for them. Javon Kinlaw another big name
Speaker 2: that everybody's familiar with. He's been a really good player
Speaker 2: for a.
Speaker 3: Very long time. Would be a better me too, Me too,
Speaker 3: Let's go to be a dude. Who else do they have?
Speaker 3: Jeremy Reeves and Marshaun Lttimore, Tostedo Plaza, so those are
Speaker 3: also on the Von Miller that's another name that you
Speaker 3: guys would be familiar with just from being a vetterer,
Speaker 3: being a veteran in the league. He's kind of a
Speaker 3: highed assassin at this point, the eternal rookie bro.
Speaker 2: He's walking around just collecting checks right from whoever he
Speaker 2: wants to give out a contract.
Speaker 3: So those are the big names that you guys play
Speaker 3: at high level to be fair for sure.
Speaker 2: Okay, define hot, yeah, oh ignogny did. I couldn't say
Speaker 2: his name when he first was here, but he's still
Speaker 2: there as well.
Speaker 3: Those are all.
Speaker 2: Names that you guys are familiar with that, in my opinion,
Speaker 2: are not doing amazing things. They're guys that have big names,
Speaker 2: but they're not doing amazing things outside.
Speaker 3: In ninety four, durn Payne put some respect on his name.
Speaker 2: Now let's get to the guys that you know their
Speaker 2: name and they are contributing. Let's talk about their linebackers.
Speaker 2: Bobby Wagner freaking out Hall of Famer go jacket. I know,
Speaker 2: I know, Bobby.
Speaker 5: Was he still still that good Bobby in two hundred
Speaker 5: tackles a year?
Speaker 3: And how is he?
Speaker 5: That's an exaggeration.
Speaker 3: We had a chance to get him by one. We
Speaker 3: did have a chance.
Speaker 2: We had a chance to get him here. We opted
Speaker 2: to go in a different direction, and that individual is
Speaker 2: no longer playing football.
Speaker 3: Tried to get him here, I know, but he ended
Speaker 3: up getting him there.
Speaker 2: So Bobby Wagner is still one heck of a middle
Speaker 2: linebacker in this league, not just just he is a
Speaker 2: vampire in the sense that he just seems to not age.
Speaker 3: A fountain of youth if you will.
Speaker 5: Tony also just like disappears off the film and then
Speaker 5: pops up where the ball is.
Speaker 3: Listen like he just like just te can't mirror or
Speaker 3: anything at night crawl.
Speaker 2: And if he's in the area of the ball, you're
Speaker 2: probably going to the ground because he's a tackling machine.
Speaker 2: He has a comrade. They gave him the game of
Speaker 2: bash Bro. What you say, yes, I man, Frankie Levoo.
Speaker 2: Frankie Levoo, I like Louvu. Really good player. Okay, So
Speaker 2: fifty four and four those two who's about that action?
Speaker 2: He's about that action.
Speaker 3: Boss.
Speaker 2: Both of those guys will run and hit Bobby. Bobby,
Speaker 2: he's kind of crazy.
Speaker 1: I like him.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's what you want, right. If you hear crazy, man,
Speaker 3: I like you.
Speaker 2: If you have a solid middle linebacker, the best thing
Speaker 2: you can do is give him somebody on the out
Speaker 2: on outside of booking him right, booking him with linebackers
Speaker 2: that can run and hit right, that are that are
Speaker 2: just violent, sometimes reckless. But guys at Seaball hit ball
Speaker 2: is the reason why we're looking forward to uh the
Speaker 2: de Marbreon Overshaw coming back he's that stylid player, you know, Shamar.
Speaker 3: James, you know, came at seventeen tackles this first game.
Speaker 2: Like those guys at Seaball hit ball, they don't hesitate
Speaker 2: because the middle linebackers always going to ensure that they're right.
Speaker 2: So those are the two guys on this defense that
Speaker 2: I believe is really the core of their team right now,
Speaker 2: those two plus Darron Pain.
Speaker 3: What do they do? Well, we know what they do.
Speaker 3: We know that they're going to do a four man front.
Speaker 3: We know that they're going to load the box up.
Speaker 2: We know that they're gonna play single high safety, and
Speaker 2: they're going to mix up coverages between primarily playing cover one,
Speaker 2: Press one and playing cover three, and every so often
Speaker 2: they'll mix into two high safety. But they do it
Speaker 2: in a way that, oh, we're being very very sneaky.
Speaker 2: Is single high and then all of a sudden they're
Speaker 2: safety who is a down safety, strong side strong side
Speaker 2: line safety turns and runs. Soon as you see that
Speaker 2: guy turn at the snap of the ball and run,
Speaker 2: they're running to a cover two. Okay, it's as plain
Speaker 2: as day. I mean, it's ridiculous, right, They're not hiding
Speaker 2: at all. They think they're being tricky like, oh, I'm
Speaker 2: in the box and then they literally and they has
Speaker 2: to snap in the ball. It is Halloween after it.
Speaker 3: They're not backpedaling, they're not angling.
Speaker 2: They are turning and sprinting because they have a long
Speaker 2: way to go to get to their position. It's very
Speaker 2: obvious when they're going to high safety. So with all
Speaker 2: that being said, there's nothing that they're going to do
Speaker 2: that you're going to be surprised by. There's nothing that
Speaker 2: they're going to do that you haven't seen that you're
Speaker 2: not comfortable with, that you're not confident in being able
Speaker 2: to eliminate.
Speaker 3: What do they do? Well, don't get in third and long. Hmm,
Speaker 3: that's really it.
Speaker 2: I wish I had more to give you. Don't get
Speaker 2: in third and long. These guys are going to press you.
Speaker 2: These guys are going to bring pressure. Occasionally, when they
Speaker 2: do bring pressures, it's usually up the middle with one
Speaker 2: of those linebackers. They want to they want to come
Speaker 2: through the middle of Yeah, they want to come through
Speaker 2: the middle of your set. They're going to widen out
Speaker 2: the defensive ends that they're going to try to get
Speaker 2: your offensive line to go from being hip to hip
Speaker 2: shoulder to shoulder, and they're going to try to spread
Speaker 2: these guys out to create running lanes for their linebackers
Speaker 2: to go ahead and penetrate and get to your quarterback.
Speaker 2: These guys are six in the league and quarterback sacks.
Speaker 2: They have eighteen quarterback sacks on a year. They're doing
Speaker 2: relatively well in that department in terms of rushing yards
Speaker 2: giving up, not great, Bob, not great, middle of the league,
Speaker 2: middle of the pack there. In terms of passing yards
Speaker 2: given up, bottom of the league, okay, bottom six. I
Speaker 2: believe it is these guys are giving up yards, yes, sir.
Speaker 2: I have a question for QB visions. What you got there, sir?
Speaker 2: Do they prefer zone or man coverage?
Speaker 3: Oh? Man, sir man, they are many. They're manning. They
Speaker 3: they are manning.
Speaker 2: No Peyton. These guys want to get up to the
Speaker 2: line of screams, put hands on you. They want to
Speaker 2: bless you. So there's a lot of opportunity to get
Speaker 2: these guys in the passing game. But I truly believe,
Speaker 2: as good as their linebackers are that you can still
Speaker 2: run the ball. I really think that you can run
Speaker 2: the ball. And with their guys playing down in the box,
Speaker 2: seven man box, sometimes eight man box, depending on your personnel.
Speaker 2: Grouping offensively, if you can get that effective running game going,
Speaker 2: you can throw the ball all day long because they
Speaker 2: don't have one corner that can take away what you
Speaker 2: do passing wise, not one. They brought in Marshaun Lattimore
Speaker 2: to be that guy two years ago.
Speaker 3: They brought him in, They traded for him. They gave
Speaker 3: up some solid draft equity to get him in there
Speaker 3: because they thought he was that goon on the outside
Speaker 3: that can come up, press you, bring the attitude and
Speaker 3: put hands on you at the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 2: He's not that whatever they thought he was. He is
Speaker 2: not what they thought he was. So they don't have
Speaker 2: a guy, so what can they do. All they can
Speaker 2: do is try to get pressure with their front four,
Speaker 2: and they don't have a guy Von Miller, Dorrin's Armstrong.
Speaker 2: None of those guys are really getting to the quarterback
Speaker 2: right now. Is typically by committee, and if you find
Speaker 2: yourself in a third and long situation, that's where they're
Speaker 2: getting these eighteen sacks. They're forcing you to hold the
Speaker 2: ball because they're pressing you up on the outside and
Speaker 2: they're not allowing your receivers to get clean releases. So
Speaker 2: as a quarterback, what do you have to do. I
Speaker 2: have to sit back to hold the ball a little
Speaker 2: bit longer right. Instead of it getting rid of it
Speaker 2: in two point five deal two point seven seconds, I
Speaker 2: have to hold it to three seconds right so that
Speaker 2: my receiver can actually get some separation. And usually by
Speaker 2: that time, dan Quinn is banking on his guys getting
Speaker 2: to your guy. That is all they do. That's all
Speaker 2: they've shown in these first six games. That's all they
Speaker 2: have shown for the last few years of dan Quinn.
Speaker 2: They're just a little bit less effective this year in.
Speaker 5: Their top ten in the league in terms of running zone.
Speaker 5: To give you a little bit more concrete answer, they
Speaker 5: run in about thirty six percent of the time, which
Speaker 5: still means it's more than most teams in a single
Speaker 5: So it most of it is cover one, yeah, cover three. Yes,
Speaker 5: I think fifty percent of their snaps are cover one
Speaker 5: and cover three is what it looks like here.
Speaker 2: So when Kyle gives you guys as stat don't don't
Speaker 2: be oh no, they play a lot of his own.
Speaker 3: They playing cover three.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Cover three most often times turns into cover one.
Speaker 2: And this is why I pose the question because I
Speaker 2: wanted you guys to break this down just before you're
Speaker 2: doing it for the fans so they understand, because they
Speaker 2: might log into like a next gen.
Speaker 3: Is almost we can take it. Yeah, not so fast.
Speaker 2: It looks like so Cover three looks like Cover one
Speaker 2: oftentimes until you have receivers that run across the formation.
Speaker 2: When our receivers cross the field, that's when it causes
Speaker 2: a lot of issues for a Cover three because now
Speaker 2: you have a safety that has to make a decision
Speaker 2: on which direction to go. Who is he taking? Is
Speaker 2: he taking the over route? Is he taking the shorter route?
Speaker 2: Is he taking the deep posts that's threatening him over
Speaker 2: the top. You can create a lot of issues again
Speaker 2: if you can block it up and you can stay
Speaker 2: in good down the distance. I am not afraid or
Speaker 2: even threatening a little bit. I respect the heck out
Speaker 2: the coach and what he can do. If you can
Speaker 2: stay in good down a distant situation, I don't foresee
Speaker 2: this being a problem, but you better figure out ninety
Speaker 2: four and you better not allow fifty four and FOURID
Speaker 2: to have run throughs.
Speaker 6: My thing is, at least with this defensive line, you're
Speaker 6: not going up the Panthers front again, which sounds kind
Speaker 6: of crazy, But now that we know the result of
Speaker 6: what the Panthers did to you with Derrek Brown Nashan Robinson,
Speaker 6: you're not facing that. You have to respect Doron Payin,
Speaker 6: of course, but it's not like you're unfamiliar.
Speaker 3: Of what these guys are prospecting to you.
Speaker 6: You know, Darren's armstrong. Darren's armstrong, excuse me, and you
Speaker 6: know what he's going to do for me. Like you said,
Speaker 6: it's the linebackers, it's Frankie Louvu, it's what Rose Boom
Speaker 6: did the Dak last week and kind of giving him
Speaker 6: fits and kind of getting him off his spot. Lufu
Speaker 6: is going to do that tenfold. He's going to do
Speaker 6: that a lot. And Bobby Widener is there to clean
Speaker 6: up a lot of that mess because he can. He
Speaker 6: can cover the middle by himself, it seems like, so
Speaker 6: you have to be concerned there. Saint rustol Is, that
Speaker 6: is uh sanstrol Is, dan Quinn's Jay Lou that's what
Speaker 6: he's using him for. Eighty percent of the time. He's
Speaker 6: in that nickel formation covering the slot, so you have
Speaker 6: to be aware of that. Having CD back for this game,
Speaker 6: if at all possible, is going to be huge for
Speaker 6: you because you will be able to clean up on
Speaker 6: the outside with Cede Lamb and George Reed.
Speaker 2: This has to be a bounce back game for this,
Speaker 2: for this ground attack from the Cowboys, and you mentioned
Speaker 2: it's the way you mentioned it as far as like
Speaker 2: you know, the Panthers front all credit due to those guys.
Speaker 2: They absolutely just bullied. Absolutely they did. But I see
Speaker 2: that and I hate it. But then I see what
Speaker 2: they did against a front that had Quentin Williams and
Speaker 2: I love it. I see what they did again against
Speaker 2: the front that had Keevon Thibodeau and Dexter Lawrence, and
Speaker 2: I love it. So these guys in the trenches for
Speaker 2: the Cowboys, offensively.
Speaker 3: They can move bodies. They just didn't do it last week.
Speaker 2: And then we'll see if Tyler Booker talk about guy's returning,
Speaker 2: you're likely getting Cavante turping back. You're likely getting Cede Lamb,
Speaker 2: like you said, massive, massive, because it just I mean
Speaker 2: even with George Pickens, and let's say Flinoyd continues to
Speaker 2: contribute that that du will own stresses their personnel. But
Speaker 2: then you add CD and George and it's just like
Speaker 2: they better pray for pray for anything but rain, because
Speaker 2: rain is coming. But then when you look at the
Speaker 2: offensive line, if Tyler Booker can get back on the
Speaker 2: field to help you with that push against a guy
Speaker 2: like Deron Payne, then yeah, maybe you can, and hopefully
Speaker 2: you can get Javonte Williams going again. You do that,
Speaker 2: now you're in third and mid third and short and
Speaker 2: it's just fair game from that math.
Speaker 6: And at that point you just have to eat the clock, man,
Speaker 6: because you don't want this defense out there very long.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no doubt about that.
Speaker 5: And I've got a question when it comes to pass
Speaker 5: rush because you're talking about the sacks. They have eighteen
Speaker 5: sacks in the year, top ten in the league in
Speaker 5: that category, but they're kind of middle of the pack
Speaker 5: in terms of time two sack, which is becoming more
Speaker 5: and more of a prevalence that in the next gen era,
Speaker 5: they're about halfway actually below AdVac more than anything, How
Speaker 5: do they get their pressure, because there's a blitz percentage
Speaker 5: there that dan Quinn will use certain guys. Where does
Speaker 5: it come from. If Dak press Gott is going to
Speaker 5: be pressured, where is it coming from?
Speaker 3: It's coming from the middle. They're blitting from inside.
Speaker 2: But it goes back to the point I made that
Speaker 2: if you find yourself in a third and long situation,
Speaker 2: what are their corners going to do.
Speaker 3: They're gonna come up in press.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, And if come up from press, it disrupts
Speaker 2: my ability to get off the ball. It normally takes
Speaker 2: me one point five seconds to get to ten yards.
Speaker 2: Now it's taking me one point eight, one point nine,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, to get to get to
Speaker 2: ten yards. And then when I get to that point,
Speaker 2: now I got to try to get your hands off me.
Speaker 2: Like the quarterback is having to sit back and hold
Speaker 2: the ball to allow the receiver to do his work. Right,
Speaker 2: I have to allow my receiver to do work at
Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage. I have to allow my receiver
Speaker 2: to do work at the top of his route. And
Speaker 2: that's why teams that have corners that can press, and
Speaker 2: you have defensive lines that can get to the Quarterback's
Speaker 2: the reason why those are some of the most disruptive
Speaker 2: teams in the league. We can go back in history.
Speaker 2: You can go back to Seattle Legion and Boom. That's
Speaker 2: why they were so effective right. The defensive line was
Speaker 2: absolutely nasty, and the cornerbacks can come up and press
Speaker 2: you with there with the long arms.
Speaker 3: That's what dan Quinn wants to do. That's what he's
Speaker 3: coming from early exactly right. So now the quarterback is
Speaker 3: having the force balls and get the ball out earlier
Speaker 3: than he wants to.
Speaker 2: That's what he wants to do. Schematically, he doesn't have
Speaker 2: the corners to do it. So having if you can
Speaker 2: get CD back, if you can get turping back, if
Speaker 2: you can have Georgia out there.
Speaker 5: Guys that win at the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 2: Now you're screwed because now you have whether you're running
Speaker 2: one or whether you're running three, it looks the same.
Speaker 2: The only difference is if you're running three, you have
Speaker 2: four underneath defenders. If you're running one, you have three
Speaker 2: underneath defenders that are responsible for guys coming out the
Speaker 2: backfield response for tight ends. Everybody has a responsibility versus
Speaker 2: cover three. My outside guys are playing it like man,
Speaker 2: but they're responsible for that third of the field. If
Speaker 2: you can overload them and overload their responsibilities, you can
Speaker 2: really really take advantage of them.
Speaker 5: I found the exact number fifty seven percent of snaps
Speaker 5: from dan Quinn's defense have been in cover one or
Speaker 5: cover Threeah, so more than half the time they're running that.
Speaker 2: And when they run two, it's the most obviously in
Speaker 2: the worlos. Yeah, and then I'll GUIs it at all?
Speaker 3: All right? Well, we're used to that.
Speaker 5: When we come back. Oh, here I go speaking on
Speaker 5: the same thing about George Pickens and Cede Lamb returning,
Speaker 5: Cavante Turpin returning. What is the target share going to
Speaker 5: look like.
Speaker 3: With the guys?
Speaker 5: Because George Pickens has had an incredible couple of weeks.
Speaker 5: How do you keep that momentum going without taking opportunities
Speaker 5: away from ced Lamb? There's only one ball to go
Speaker 5: around when we come back with more talking Cowboys one beat?
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Speaker 5: And top top five overall receptions.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So three huge appetites. One pizza. How do you slice it?
Speaker 5: There's the question we're talking pizza.
Speaker 2: I think I think you gets a new pizza every
Speaker 2: every play to new pizza every play. I mean, you
Speaker 2: don't go into any of these plays saying that, Okay, well,
Speaker 2: you know, going for for the whole game.
Speaker 3: We're all going to from the same piece.
Speaker 2: And you know, George, you're on a heater, so we're
Speaker 2: gonna make sure we target you, you know, nine times
Speaker 2: in CD, seven times or six times until further notice.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no no. You take what the defense is
Speaker 3: giving you.
Speaker 2: And that's why I love what Dak Prescott is saying
Speaker 2: when he's asked questions about you know, when CD was
Speaker 2: on the field, and he's asking him, well, do you
Speaker 2: find yourself sometimes looking for CD? Do you find yourself
Speaker 2: sometimes looking for George after you've targeted CD two or
Speaker 2: three times? To make sure George gets involved where Jake
Speaker 2: gets involved. His answers always know, you take what the
Speaker 2: defense is giving you, which is fair, and that's how
Speaker 2: you should approach it.
Speaker 6: So that should be deep dish pizza this week.
Speaker 2: There you go Chicago style. If you will look so
Speaker 2: if you if you approach it that way, you should be.
Speaker 2: But if you approach it that way, then by the
Speaker 2: end of the game, because there should be no egos
Speaker 2: in a win. Okay, maybe this particular game against the
Speaker 2: Commander CD comes in and he goes off twelve catches,
Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy five yards, two touchdowns, and maybe
Speaker 2: George has, you know, six catches for sixty yards, Jake
Speaker 2: has his handful and everybody's if it's a win, okay.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Or maybe it's the opposite.
Speaker 2: Maybe George goes off again and this one fifty and one,
Speaker 2: and you know, whatever the case may be, just approach
Speaker 2: it by.
Speaker 3: Rep I think that's the right answer.
Speaker 5: I think that's what they should as a team rely on,
Speaker 5: is take what the defense can give you. But we've seen,
Speaker 5: at least in a short sample size, going into week three,
Speaker 5: there was a considerable effort to get Ceedee Lamb the football.
Speaker 3: In weeks one and two.
Speaker 5: There wasn't as much of an emphasis on getting George
Speaker 5: Pickens the football in weeks one and two. It happened three, four,
Speaker 5: five down the road, and he's been incredible and he's
Speaker 5: earned he's the private opportunity when he was the primary receiver.
Speaker 5: So at some point, we haven't seen three the first
Speaker 5: six weeks, we have not seen them have an emphasis
Speaker 5: on getting both guys ample opportunity early in the game.
Speaker 3: Do you think it can happen?
Speaker 5: That's what I'm asking. Do you think we can get
Speaker 5: to that point?
Speaker 6: Absolutely? You have to make it happen. And granted, if
Speaker 6: the defense's plan is to like, let's avoid that at
Speaker 6: all costs, like Dak is saying, take what the defense
Speaker 6: gives you, ja, I mean, if that's what they're giving you,
Speaker 6: that's what they're giving you, get first.
Speaker 3: Down to control the clock.
Speaker 9: Man.
Speaker 6: At this point, I can't stress enough how important this
Speaker 6: is to just to me watching the game, is that
Speaker 6: you don't want to see the defense on the.
Speaker 3: Field at all.
Speaker 6: So just keep the ball as long as humanly possible.
Speaker 3: Jeremy Jeremy Reeves is going to be responsible for reguarding
Speaker 3: Jake Ferguson.
Speaker 1: That's fair.
Speaker 3: Think about it this way.
Speaker 5: I like that.
Speaker 3: I like those words. I like that a lot. I
Speaker 3: like those words. You guys, a question, and this is
Speaker 3: a realistic question.
Speaker 2: Do you think that there's a chance Dak Prescott throws
Speaker 2: forty times in this game?
Speaker 3: I hope not. I hope either.
Speaker 2: Do you think there's a chance, a chance if that
Speaker 2: were to happen, then look at the split.
Speaker 3: Then let's say you do it split.
Speaker 2: You target CD ten, you target George ten, you target
Speaker 2: Jake five to six.
Speaker 3: That's twenty five twenty six. You're off by like twelve.
Speaker 2: Fair Yeah, space and he sprinkling Cavante turpin, you know,
Speaker 2: flinoy whatever I'm saying. If this turns out to be
Speaker 2: a game where that has to throw forty times, it's
Speaker 2: it's easy to you know, split.
Speaker 5: Can you win like that with this team?
Speaker 3: Though?
Speaker 5: Because if you're throwing it forty times, a lot of
Speaker 5: it is going to be working from behind because you're
Speaker 5: having to catch up and you're trying to play on
Speaker 5: the offensive.
Speaker 3: Such will happen. The answer is no, which I happened.
Speaker 3: Answer is no.
Speaker 6: If you're relying on Dak Press Gott throwing forty times,
Speaker 6: you're just opening yourself up for issues. For me, it's
Speaker 6: just it's consistency and running the ball and being able
Speaker 6: to spell in these things and a lot of that too.
Speaker 6: It's like it's not for me just splitting the reps
Speaker 6: between uh, George Pickens and Ceedee Lamb.
Speaker 3: But like Ryan flinoy.
Speaker 6: Man, he's just he should be able to eat in
Speaker 6: the scenarios. Not that I don't necessarily want Jake Ferguson
Speaker 6: to get the targets, but in this game they should
Speaker 6: be abundant.
Speaker 3: But the outside is going to be wide open.
Speaker 5: I like what you're saying too about first downs, because
Speaker 5: that's that's such a fundamental aspect that fans sometimes and
Speaker 5: I forget about it sometimes forget about because the first downs.
Speaker 5: I mean, look at the way that it was broken
Speaker 5: up in the Panthers game, and Isaiah had a great
Speaker 5: stat at the post game where the Panthers had twenty
Speaker 5: seven first downs, fourteen of them or on the ground
Speaker 5: right on the ground. Dallas had fourteen first downs total
Speaker 5: and only one on the ground. You've got to be
Speaker 5: able to move the chains, keep your defense off the field.
Speaker 5: If the defense is going to play as poorly as
Speaker 5: they have, keep them off the field as much as possible.
Speaker 5: But you also cannot hinder the success of your offense
Speaker 5: because if you're only going to get six possessions in
Speaker 5: the football game, you've got to take advantage of the
Speaker 5: majority of those possessions and I'm not talking three. I'm
Speaker 5: not talking Brandon Aubrey. I'm talking you gotta find payder
Speaker 5: on four or five or six possessions in order to
Speaker 5: even have a shot.
Speaker 3: With the way that this defense is playing.
Speaker 5: The way you do that and the way you consistently
Speaker 5: win time of possession effectively and still end up with
Speaker 5: points is by converting on first downs, playing and simple.
Speaker 3: And quickly to uh.
Speaker 2: To the chat, Robert Rodriguez says, and he was I
Speaker 2: think he was addressing Josh Josh about Flinoy. He said,
Speaker 2: I feel like CD and Flinoy have the same skill set. No, no,
Speaker 2: in the capacity of they both can get you yack.
Speaker 2: I agree, Flinoy is more physical than CD as far
Speaker 2: as being able to run through tackles.
Speaker 3: CD is more elusive in open space. I think it's
Speaker 3: not to say physical.
Speaker 2: It's not to say no, Floy is, but he's more physical, right,
Speaker 2: So I would I would not because C is, I
Speaker 2: would say, but just not to the level of Flinoy.
Speaker 2: I would say that the better comp would be there
Speaker 2: might be a little bit of redundancy between Flinoy and Pickens,
Speaker 2: because Pickens is physical.
Speaker 3: I can see that, right, So just you know, jumping
Speaker 3: in I just don't think they're different receivers.
Speaker 2: They're different receivers, receivers classified pickings as No. No, I'm saying,
Speaker 2: if you're going to say there's any amount of redundancy
Speaker 2: between Flinoy and any of the top two guys, it's
Speaker 2: more Pickens than it is.
Speaker 3: CD City is tough.
Speaker 2: He he proved that last I think he can be physical,
Speaker 2: but Flinoy is.
Speaker 3: I think he's any of those two guys. Flinoy feels
Speaker 3: more dizzy.
Speaker 2: I feel like he's more turping in this offense than
Speaker 2: those Annoy Yeah, he feels more more dozz. He's the
Speaker 2: guy that you want to get the ball in his
Speaker 2: hands now, Yeah, crisp, but exactly, Radius is so quicker,
Speaker 2: He's more, He's faster.
Speaker 3: I want to get in his hands by any means necessary.
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