1 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Hammer Territory Podcast. My name is Sean Coleman. Hope, 2 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: wherever you are and wherever you were listening, you're having 3 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: a great start to your Monday. A rare Monday recording 4 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: of the Hammer Territory Podcast, but hey, plenty of news 5 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: going on and another Braves win, a pretty nice one 6 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: to start off well as this series against the Tigers. 7 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: And as always, I am joined by my co host, 8 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: Steven Tolbert. Steven, how are. 9 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:45,599 Speaker 2: You, sir? 10 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 3: What's up? Sean? Yeah, man, we're doing a Monday night 11 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,279 Speaker 3: show this week. We both had some stuff come up 12 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 3: for tomorrow, so we're gonna go ahead and get the 13 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 3: show done for this week. Good win tonight. We're gonna 14 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,959 Speaker 3: talk about it, of course, but you know, we've said 15 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 3: in the past it's always much more fun to do 16 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 3: these after a win. It wasn't looking great, you know, 17 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 3: especially when you know Max Freed left the game, Jesse 18 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 3: Chavez came in with some heroics, and then some other 19 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 3: guys did too that we're going to talk about. But yeah, 20 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 3: always good to do these after a win, and always 21 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 3: good to do these with you, buddy. 22 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and yes, the feeling is more than mutual. Of course, 23 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: you can find the Hammer Territory podcast across all forms 24 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 1: of social media, myself at Stat's sac on x Steven 25 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: at be Underscore Outliers, and of course at foul Territory 26 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: across all forms of social media. Hammer Territory a part 27 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: of the Foul Territory family of podcasts. Well, Steven, let's 28 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: get right into it. You mentioned it. You know, Max 29 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: Reed was was Max Freed. You know, he was absolutely wonderful. 30 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: You know through the first five innings, ran into a 31 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: bit of trouble in the fifth, and then he gave 32 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: way to Jesse Chavez, who later on gave way to 33 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: Day's bowl Hernandez, and the bullpen was able to kind 34 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: of work through some things when it came to, you know, 35 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: keeping the Tigers offense at But what stood out tonight 36 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: was two things. Number One, for the first what seven innings, 37 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: it was the Braves offense over eight with Runnerson scoring position. 38 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,119 Speaker 1: Austin Riley continued to have good at bats, but overall 39 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: it looked like it was gonna be a wonder at 40 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: one of those nights again where the Braves clearly were 41 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: you know, had the best approach, but they weren't getting 42 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: the job done, but then it was some unexpected names. 43 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: Jesse Chivez, Dasbol, Hernandez, Forest Wall, first time a while 44 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 1: he's been the lineup. He gets the RBI single to 45 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: tie the game, and then of course a well known 46 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: name Ozzie Albis is able to get the job done 47 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,399 Speaker 1: with the home run, but Joe Hamenez gets to save. 48 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: It was a night where the Braves came through when 49 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: they needed to, but it was several unexpected sources that 50 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: came through, which is a really really awesome thing to see. 51 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: Kind of another indication better times maybe ahead. 52 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, it's it. Sometimes it feels like a little 53 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 3: bit of found money, right anytime you know you're the best, 54 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 3: you know, the the biggest contributions come from Forrest Wall 55 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 3: and Daves Bell, Hernandez and Jesse Chavez. You know, it's 56 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 3: almost like playing with house money a little bit because 57 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 3: you just don't expect it. You don't expect those guys 58 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 3: to be parts of wins. Obviously, none of it works 59 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 3: unless you only give up one run. So first and foremost, 60 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 3: it's about Max Freed. It's about the job Jesse Chavez 61 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 3: did in that. You know, I think it was the 62 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 3: sixth sixth inning of the seventh inning where he came 63 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 3: in and struck three guys out. I mean, you know, 64 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 3: if you give up three or four runs in that game, 65 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 3: you lose. So it starts with a pitching. You can 66 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 3: do a lot of good stuff and a lot of 67 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 3: guys can be heroes for you when you only give 68 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 3: up one run because there's just more opportunities to do. 69 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 3: So when you give up four or five runs, you 70 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 3: need a lot more heroes. So yeah, it starts with 71 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 3: a pitching obviously, Max. You know it got rough there 72 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 3: at the end, and he definitely wasn't his sharpest tonight, 73 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 3: but you know, still plenty good enough. And then the 74 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 3: job the bullpen did. I I am interested to see, 75 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 3: you know, Snitch said post game. I was just listening 76 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 3: to the postgame press conference. He said there were some 77 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 3: guys down and Pierce Johnson was not used tonight and 78 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 3: he had he's only pitched once in four days, So 79 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 3: I am a little curious to see if if maybe 80 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 3: there's something up with him. It doesn't that wouldn't be 81 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 3: weird if if he was down for workload reasons, just 82 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 3: with that light of a workload only pitching ones in 83 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 3: four days, so that's something to watch maybe until tomorrow 84 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 3: and the next days. Is to make sure he's good. 85 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 3: Anytime you don't see one of your best relievers in 86 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 3: a close game where they're pretty well rested, my eyebrow 87 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 3: kind of raises a little bit, just you know, I 88 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 3: guess an injury bug radar kind of goes off. So 89 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 3: we'll still well, you know, hopefully there's nothing there and 90 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 3: hopefully there's just a rest day for him. But yeah, 91 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 3: Jesse did a great job. Dais Bell did a great job. 92 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 3: I don't don't I mean, I said it on Twitter. 93 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 3: I don't love using you know, your lower end relievers 94 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 3: in those situations, you know, a tide game in the 95 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 3: eighth inning against the top of the order certainly much 96 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 3: rather your higher leverage guys do it. But credit to 97 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 3: those guys. They came through and it helped, you know, 98 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 3: obviously it helped win the game. And then obviously Joe 99 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 3: Jimenez came in with a terrific night. They need to 100 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 3: close it out. 101 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: For sure. And the great thing about it was was 102 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: that again, you know, it kind of as you mentioned, 103 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: you know, some things going on the braves trying to 104 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: work themselves through some things. But what stands out is 105 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: is that the trust and the death right. I agree 106 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: with you, probably not the best decision. No, probably, you know, 107 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: out of ten times the guys that we used tonight, 108 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: they're probably not gonna get it done, you know, several 109 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,679 Speaker 1: times out of ten. But the point that I'm getting 110 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: as they got it done tonight, and so that was 111 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: that was a big development. 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Kind of a quiet night tonight, but 138 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: Ozuna really got things going for us back on Thursday 139 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 1: and Friday, And of course we've seen some big developments 140 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: from another major player in the MVP race when it 141 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: comes to Mooki Bess. Of course, the Mooki bets on 142 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: Sunday hit by a pitch. It wound up fracturing his 143 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: left hand. He's likely going to be out for two months, 144 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: so that definitely is something that plays into the MVP race. 145 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: I know that it is June, so talking about the 146 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: MVP may not necessarily be that, you know, smart of 147 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: a thing right now. But what stands out to me, Steven, 148 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: is that when you talk about, you know, we also 149 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: saw the All Star selections come out, Marcelo Zuna is 150 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: the one brave who's up there in the top two 151 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: of voting. But when you see you know, injuries that 152 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: have occurred to Acunya, injuries now that have occurred to 153 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: Mooki Bets, it really seems like that you could make 154 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: a case that one and two in that MVP conversation 155 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: in the National League is shohey O Tani and Marcelo Zuna. 156 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: And I think that is more than a compliment to 157 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: how consistent Azuna has been this year. 158 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, I mean, marcell has a a legitimate case 159 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 3: as an All Star. He's got a legitimate case his MVP. 160 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 3: You know, I hate I hate injuries. I hate injuries 161 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 3: so much. I hate that, you know, the the league 162 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 3: is not gonna get get to watch Ronald this year. 163 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 3: I hate that the league is gonna be without Mooki. 164 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 3: We've got some big stars, especially on the pitching side. 165 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 3: Even now, you know, position player wise, that are that 166 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 3: are out and injuries just suck and they're you know, 167 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 3: it's the worst part of the game. I don't care 168 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 3: who you root for. I hated I I was annoyed 169 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 3: when Bryce Tarpberg got hurt. Like, I don't like injuries 170 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 3: at all. I want the best players on the field. 171 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 3: It's just a better product. So yeah, the fact that 172 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 3: movie is gonna be out sucks. You know, I was 173 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 3: actually watching that game when he got hit and it 174 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 3: looked bad. It was very clear immediately that something very 175 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 3: you know, bad happened. He's not gonna need surgery, which 176 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 3: is good. But yeah, you know, Marcel, I mean, he's 177 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 3: got a legitimate MVP case right now. I mean not 178 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 3: just like you know, this is a Braves podcast, so 179 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 3: we talk about Braves players, like just an objective, legitimate 180 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 3: MVP case. He's you know, he's he's got an outside 181 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 3: shot at the Triple Crown. I mean, it's crazy as 182 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 3: that is. I mean, he's you know, he's got he's 183 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 3: even got the batting average for it right now. I 184 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 3: don't know if that's going to continue, but he's definitely 185 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 3: got All Star you know, obviously he's definitely got uh 186 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 3: every right to be in the All Star conversation. You know, 187 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 3: if you're if you're if you're in the MVP conversation, 188 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 3: you should probably be in the All Star conversation. But 189 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 3: he's been incredible. He hasn't he still doesn't slow down. 190 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 3: I don't know how. I mean, he's stayed hot, you know, April, May, 191 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 3: June hasn't slowed down one bit. You know, other guys 192 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 3: have joined him, so it's not as obvious that he's 193 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 3: stayed hot, but he is. He's just as hot as 194 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 3: he was at the beginning of the year. I I 195 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,839 Speaker 3: you know, I talked about this with Bowman when Marl 196 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 3: Bowman came on the show a few weeks ago. But 197 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 3: you know, he's been hot for for like thirteen fourteen 198 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 3: months now, like it. It's been crazy. He hasn't had 199 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 3: a bad month since the last April and we're in 200 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 3: you know, that was April twenty twenty three and this 201 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 3: is June twenty twenty four. So he's been incredible, you know. 202 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 3: I I the there's a part of my brain that says, 203 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 3: there's no way he can hit like this. All year, 204 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 3: but he's hit like this for over a full calendar 205 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 3: year at this point, so like there's nothing. I mean, 206 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 3: he very well could like this could just be Marcel 207 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four and that's crazy to say, but 208 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 3: he's been the best hitter on the team by a mile. 209 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 3: You know, if it wasn't for Chris Sale and Ronaldo Lopez, 210 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 3: he'd probably be the best player on the team. So yeah, 211 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 3: it's been incredible. I hate it for a mookie that 212 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 3: he's gonna be out, but Marcel is definitely in that conversation, 213 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 3: He's earned every bit of it. 214 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: And if the Braves offense starts to come around a bit, 215 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: Marcel can stay you know, where he's at, and this 216 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: Braves team can start winning a bit more. Listen, I'll 217 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: just be honest, if you're gonna stack up, if Shoeo 218 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: and Marcelo Zuna have similar numbers, I can see Otani 219 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 1: being you know, the winner. I just you know can 220 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: and we'll have plenty of time to discuss it. But 221 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: the big key is is that Marcello Zuna. Again, as 222 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: Steven mentioned, it's not just us saying you know, well, hey, 223 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: look at what he's done for us. Despite all our injuries. 224 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: It's the fact that he legitimately, you know, has a 225 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 1: case to be the best hitter at least in the 226 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: National League so far this season. But Steven, we also 227 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: talked about it the last time. We discussed how the 228 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: lineup can get going, and that is its best bats 229 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: getting going, and the Braves truly, even without Ronald Acuna Junior, 230 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: with Marcelo Zuna now performing how he is, you've legitimately 231 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: got the potential to have three MVP bats, Olsen, Ozuna 232 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: and Austin Riley. And that's exactly what we're seeing from 233 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: Austin Riley. The last time we talked, we discussed that 234 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: for the Braves to be able to win that series 235 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: against the Rays, it was going to have to be 236 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: them hitting home runs and hopefully Riley being a good 237 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: source of it. Three straight games, three home runs, two 238 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: more doubles tonight. And I bring this up because I 239 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 1: want to stress a point. I want to make something 240 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: very very clear, because I think that it is an 241 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: awesome development that and there's no better time for this 242 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: to happen. Austin Riley, what we're seeing from him right now, 243 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: it's sustainable. I'm not saying he's gonna sit here and 244 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: hit a home run every game. But Austin Riley, it 245 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: may seem to some that when he went from how 246 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: he was in May to where he's been over the 247 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: past four games, him hitting that instant switch, some may 248 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: be skeptical of how long he can continue it. But 249 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: Riley heating up this specific time of the year. History 250 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: shows it happens nearly every single year. He has a 251 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: nine to eighty ops in the month of July for 252 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: his career, and Stephen in twenty one, twenty two, and 253 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: twenty three from the middle of June through July thirty first. 254 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: In each of those three years, he had an eight 255 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: eighty OPS or better and ten plus home runs over 256 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: that six week stretch. So the point that I'm getting 257 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: at is is that Austin Riley again, I'm not saying 258 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: he's gonna home run every game, but being one of 259 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: the best bats in baseball from mid June through the 260 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: end of July. He's done every single season over the 261 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: past three years. We're starting to see it once again. 262 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, we talked about it like there's no 263 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 3: there is no replacement for your best hitters being your 264 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 3: best hitters. There's no lineup construction. You know, there's no 265 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 3: you know, moving things around that can replace just your 266 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 3: best hitters hitting the way they're supposed to hit. And 267 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 3: you know, last time you and I talked, we talked 268 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 3: about like the Braves need Austin Riley. There's no there's 269 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 3: no version of the Braves winning in twenty twenty four, 270 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 3: especially without Ronald where Austin Riley is not a part 271 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 3: of it. Because you know, the talent level on this 272 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 3: team has just decreased so much. I mean, they don't 273 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 3: have Acuna, that don't have Strider. You could argue their 274 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 3: two best players. You know, most talented players overall are 275 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 3: gone for the season, and you know, just the overall 276 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 3: talent level of the team is just to crease to 277 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 3: the point where you no longer have the luxury of 278 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 3: one of your best players not playing well. You need everybody. 279 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 3: You need all hands on deck. You need your best 280 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 3: players hitting like your best players. You need your role 281 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 3: players performing well in spots. You know, you need everybody. 282 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 3: And credit to Austin man. He has been unbelievable the 283 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 3: last four games. He's ras. You know, his WRC plus 284 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 3: coming into the Tampa series was seventy seven for the season. 285 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 3: That was coming into the Tampa series. Four games later, 286 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 3: you know, three against Tampa and one tonight against Detroit, 287 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 3: he's raised his WRC plus t one oh two. So 288 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 3: he's added twenty five points of his WRC plus to 289 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 3: his line in four games, which is pretty incredible for 290 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 3: this late in the year. I mean, we're you know, 291 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 3: he's two hundred and fifty plus plate appearances into the year, 292 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 3: and that just shows you how hot he's been the 293 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 3: last four games. But it's got to keep going. Like 294 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 3: the Braves need him all the way through the summer. 295 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 3: They need him into September, they need him October. You 296 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 3: know him, Olsen Ozuna, even Ozzie. You know Ozzie had 297 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 3: the big home run tonight. You know, especially hitting left handed, 298 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 3: Ozzie's really struggled left handed this year. He was in 299 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 3: a big funk in part because they've faced so many 300 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 3: rities over the last four games, and when he does that, 301 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 3: he gets in a funk. But so to see him 302 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 3: launch that ball, you know, to the chop house batting 303 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 3: left handed, was was huge. And you know, the Rays 304 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 3: need those four guys and e Sean Murphy. They need 305 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 3: Adam de Ball. You know, Jared Kelnick has been tremendous 306 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 3: the last month or so. You know, if he wants 307 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 3: to ken continue to do that, that would help a 308 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 3: lot too. But yeah, I mean, you know, at the 309 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 3: start of the year, the Braves had enough depth in 310 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 3: the lineup where they didn't need everybody to be, you know, 311 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 3: up to their level. Now the Braves need everybody to 312 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 3: be up their level without a Kunya, without Harris, without Strider, like, 313 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 3: the talent level on the team is just decrease to 314 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 3: the point where now you do you need everybody to 315 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 3: hit at their level, pitch to their level, like, you know, 316 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 3: the margin of era is gone. So Austin coming alive 317 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 3: these last four games has been you know, just a welcome, 318 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 3: welcome site and hopefully it's just a sign of things 319 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 3: to come for the rest of the summer. 320 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: Absolutely, because if we can get the if we can 321 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: get Austin Riley going, hopefully Matt Olsen can stay like 322 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: he is and obviously Ozuna getting going, that that's good 323 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: enough to carry the offense. You want to see those 324 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: three guys do what they can and that can make 325 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: the offense above averaging close to elite. But The other 326 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: big reason why we've got to get those three bats 327 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: going is because now you mentioned it at the first 328 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: of your discussion about Austin Riley, it's nearly impossible to 329 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: replace losing some of the talents that the Braves have. 330 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: And unfortunately, over the weekend we found out, of course, 331 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: that Michael Harris the second has a Grade two hamstrings 332 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: strain will probably be out I would say at least 333 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: a month plus, maybe longer than that. We know Ronald 334 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: Acunya Junior is out. The point that I'm getting at 335 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 1: is is that right now this Braves outfield is Jared Kilnick, who, 336 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: to his credit, is playing excellent baseball. But beyond him, 337 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: you've got Adam Devall, Ramon Loreano, Brian Anderson, and Forrest 338 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: Wall who played a good job tonight. It's going to 339 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: be good to see. I think the defense can be 340 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 1: okay with that group. But the thing that stands out 341 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: is you've got a lot of offensive limitations and Stephen, 342 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 1: we talk about the fact that it's so huge for 343 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: our big hitters to get going. The thing is, though, 344 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: is that even if they do get going, somebody really 345 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 1: needs to step up beside keller Nick. Out of this 346 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: group to do that offensively. But it's really hard to 347 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: trust any of those names that I mentioned outside of 348 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: Kelernick to do that. I don't want to say the 349 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: outfield is in a dire situation, but it's pretty close 350 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: right now with the names that we have to use. 351 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 3: Oh no, I mean, it's that's a rough That's a 352 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 3: rough outfield situation for a team trying to win a 353 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 3: World Series. I mean, it just is. I mean, if 354 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 3: we're being honest, you know, Jared Kelnick was supposed to 355 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 3: be the third or fourth outfielder on the team, probably 356 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 3: more closer to the fourth outfielder on the team coming 357 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 3: into the season, and right now he is clearly, like 358 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 3: far and away the best outfielder on the team. And 359 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 3: that's I'm not knocking Jared Keelnick, but like you know, 360 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 3: he's not an established guy where you're just comfortable with 361 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 3: him being the best outfielder on your team. You know, 362 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 3: Adam devall Is has looked more and more like a 363 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 3: thirty five year old. Ramon Loreano has had a rough, 364 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 3: rough couple of years where he got he just got 365 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 3: cut by Cleveland, who's always desperate for offense, and he 366 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 3: couldn't make it on that club. You know, Forst. Wall 367 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 3: is a twenty six, twenty seven year old kind of 368 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 3: career minor leaguer. Brian Anderson's been cut a a bunch 369 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 3: and was just a you know, a free agent, you know, 370 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 3: until the Brave has picked him up a couple of 371 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 3: weeks ago. You know, it's kind of it's rough. I mean, 372 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 3: there's no other way to say it. It's rough. And 373 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 3: if Adam Devall wanted to kind of flip a switch 374 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 3: and and really turn back into Adam to All, that 375 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 3: would be tremendously helpful. He's been that guy against lefties, 376 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 3: but you know, you see so many more right handed 377 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 3: pitchers and over the course of a season that it's 378 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 3: tough to just tit lefties, and especially it's tough when 379 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 3: you when the Braves don't currently have a decent platoon 380 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 3: partner because kel Nick is having to play every day. So, uh, 381 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 3: it is rough. I'm very interested to see what Alex does. 382 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 3: You know, we're in the middle of June now, where 383 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 3: it's you know, it's probably two weeks, two or three 384 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 3: weeks away from being you know, in the heart of 385 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 3: trade season. You could still see trades this time of year. 386 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 3: There are some teams that are bad enough where you're 387 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 3: they're probably okay with waving the white flag and send 388 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 3: some guys away, But it is harder because there's nothing 389 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 3: forcing those teams to make a deal with you. You know, 390 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 3: they can say I don't really like that offer. I'm 391 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 3: just gonna wait to see if I get anything better 392 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 3: at the trade deadline, you know, when when there's nothing 393 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 3: forcing the other team's hand in terms of moving guys, 394 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 3: then usually the way to get a deal done is 395 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 3: to overpay, and Alex might have to overpay. Scott and 396 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 3: Scott and Brad talked about this, like, you know, you're 397 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 3: you're not always gonna be in a situation where you 398 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 3: can get the best deal or the exact deal that 399 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 3: you want. Sometimes you do have to overpay a bit 400 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 3: because the team needs help and the outfield needs help. 401 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 3: Like you know, they've probably got they've got five outfitters 402 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 3: on the team right now that they've probably got like 403 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 3: one and a half major league players in that group, 404 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 3: maybe two total if we're being you know, really kind 405 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:37,719 Speaker 3: with the splits and the platoon stuff. So yeah, they 406 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 3: need help. They need probably at least one outfielder, maybe 407 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 3: two quite honestly, they need some left handed help. Getting 408 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 3: somebody that can play against right handers is a big deal. 409 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 3: You know, I would love to get like two legitimate 410 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 3: left handed outfielders so that you know, Loreano and Duvault 411 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 3: don't have to play against right handers. That that would 412 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 3: be tremendous. But I'm gonna be very see what does 413 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,959 Speaker 3: this is, you know, other than shortstop, which is a 414 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 3: really hard position to upgrade in season, you know, the 415 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 3: outfield is the clear area in terms of the position 416 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 3: player group where you can upgrade. And I'm guessing Alex 417 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 3: will at some point. 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You know, 452 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 1: you talk about, you know, where are they not listening 453 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: to a Scott as well as you know Brad, And 454 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: you know, even if it's a bit early to you know, 455 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: expect trades to happen, it's right in the time where 456 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: you want to talk about. You know, what really is 457 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 1: the target for the Braves in these trades, and you know, 458 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 1: obviously the outfield. And I think I think the lineup, 459 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: getting lineup depth, trusted lineup depth is probably right now 460 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: more important than you know, some may you know think 461 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: so many may think that another starter is the way 462 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: for the Braves to go. But I'm with there with you. 463 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: I think that the outfield needs help, and I agree. 464 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: I think you know, yes, Orlando Arcia has played some 465 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: decent defense this year, but this Braves offense without Ronald 466 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: Acuna Junior. It just goes back to the same reason 467 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 1: that you need your best hitters performing at their best 468 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: as much as they can. For that same reason, you 469 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 1: also don't have the luxury of consistently seeing everyday players 470 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: give away at bats. So to me, I would think 471 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: that yeah, we're looking for outfielders, we maybe looking for 472 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: a shortstop. Well, what's the key trade of that player 473 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,719 Speaker 1: that we're looking for. For me, it's someone who can 474 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: get on base. For me, it's someone who can work 475 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: good at bats, who can deliver good approaches, productive approaches 476 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: as consistently as possible, to be able to put runners 477 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: on base and create those run scoring opportunities. Is that 478 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: a big trait that you're looking for in the type 479 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: of position player that Alex should go after, or is 480 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: there anything else along with that that she feels important? 481 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you know, there's a whole debate and 482 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 3: there's been studies done on this about what's best to 483 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,719 Speaker 3: go get versus, you know, on base percentage versus slugging percentage, Like, 484 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 3: what's the best way to build a lineup? Is it 485 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 3: better to have, you know, half your guys be OBP 486 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 3: guys and half your guys be slug guys. Is it 487 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 3: better to go all nine to one or all nine 488 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 3: the other? There's tons and tons, I mean, there's been 489 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 3: so many different studies and so much research done on this. 490 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 3: You can google it and go read it all. But 491 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 3: you know, I don't, I don't. I don't focus as 492 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 3: much on the style of player. You know, what I 493 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 3: look for is just ops in general. A decent ops 494 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 3: against you know, either you know right now with the 495 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 3: Braves need or is some decent ops against right handed pitching. 496 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 3: Like that's where the Braves are vulnerable right now, is 497 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 3: because they're so right handed in their lineup. I mean, 498 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 3: Olsen's left handed, Kelnick's left handed. Ozzie's a switch hitter, 499 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 3: but he's much much worse batting left handed. Like, so 500 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 3: you have two true left handed hitters in your every 501 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 3: day line I've been you have Forest Wall, who's you know, 502 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 3: a career minor leaguer essentially, so like the Braves need 503 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 3: some left handed help. That's why I was saying, you know, 504 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 3: if you could go get one or two legitimate left 505 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 3: handed outfielders that could platoon with the ball in Leariano, 506 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 3: then you've covered up a lot of your weaknesses. In 507 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 3: my opinion, I would definitely look at short stop. Short 508 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 3: stop is very hard to get in season because most 509 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 3: good teams or most bad teams don't have a good 510 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 3: short stop, and if they do, they're not going to 511 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 3: trade them. Like, short stops are just hard to find. 512 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 3: Like Paul DeJong of the White Sox is probably the 513 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 3: only guy in terms of bad teams with the decent 514 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 3: player at that position, you know that's that's a possibility. 515 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 3: I don't know if you know. He's a decent defender. 516 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 3: He's got like fourteen or fifteen home runs this year. 517 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 3: He's much better than Listen. Orlando has been very bad. 518 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 3: Like I treated this out, even when you factor in 519 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 3: his defense, he's been the worst hitter in baseball for 520 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 3: two months legitimately, I mean literally the worst hitter in baseball. 521 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 3: He's got a thirty six WRC plus over the last 522 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 3: two months, and nobody else is even below fifty. So 523 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 3: he's been the worst hitter in baseball. Even when you 524 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 3: factor in his defense, he's a negative war player over 525 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 3: that span. I would love to upgrade that position, but 526 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 3: it's very hard to do in season. So position player wise, absolutely, 527 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 3: I think two left tended outfielders would be tremendous to get. 528 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 3: But you know, a fifth starter, sixth starter would always help. 529 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 3: I wrote about this at Battery Power last week. But 530 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 3: it's very hard to trade for starting pitching. Now, you 531 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,199 Speaker 3: can trade for like lower tier guys that you might 532 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 3: think you can squeeze a little more value out of, 533 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 3: and the Braves might do that just to get through 534 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 3: just to get two October. But in terms of trading 535 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 3: for guys that are actually going to pitch in October, 536 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 3: for you, those guys are extremely expensive and very very 537 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 3: hard to get. You should really never expect that. And 538 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 3: then bullpen. I think Alex will always add to the bullpen, 539 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 3: you know, every year. He's done it every year, so 540 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 3: I don't expect it to be any different this year. 541 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 3: If I guess right now, the Braves will get one 542 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 3: or two outfielders and one or two bullpen pieces and 543 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 3: that'll be their trade deadline. It just comes down to 544 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 3: who you know what the names are once we get 545 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 3: to the end of July. 546 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and the thing that stands out for a team 547 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 1: with playoff aspirations, excuse me, a team of championship aspirations. 548 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: I can't remember the time frame that it was given, 549 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: but last year Jepison talked about it. I believe he 550 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: mentioned that the team that you know has the most 551 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: homers in a playoff game wins that game nearly eighty 552 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 1: five percent of the time. So to your point, we 553 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: could talk about getting on base all the we want to, 554 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: and it's great if we can, but if the Braves 555 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 1: could add another option that they and we know the 556 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: Braves also have a good track record of bringing in 557 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: players who will perform better you know, here than they 558 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: did elsewhere. You know, the twenty twenty one the outfitters 559 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: we got are the prime example. If the Braves can 560 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: find another slugger that can play on those outfield positions, 561 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: that'll be a great addition. But some more news, notable 562 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: news that came out on Monday, you know, kind of 563 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: you know, could potentially impact the you know, how the 564 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: Braves may approach the trade deadline when it comes to 565 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: adding a potential pitcher, especially for the starting rotation. As 566 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: you mentioned, it costs quite a bit to go get 567 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 1: a legitimate starting pitcher. But the Braves got some decent 568 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: news on Monday. So Ian Anderson, who obviously has been 569 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: out you know for quite a while, I believe, you know, yeah, 570 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: since the start of last year. He obviously has come 571 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: back from Tommy John surgery. He's been doing work to 572 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: get back going. It was reported that he's going to 573 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: start ramping up some activity. A workout scheduled i believe tomorrow, 574 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: which is very good news, which should you know, put 575 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: a plan in place here hopefully soon him to you know, 576 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: potentially get on a rehab assignment and start working his 577 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: way back. Hurst and Waldrop, who you know, there was 578 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: you know, some stuff over the past twenty four hours 579 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: about him being put on the I l the fact 580 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: that there had been reports that he had had some 581 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: elbow soreness. The reports into the latest tonight was was 582 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: that it was just inflammation. They're gonna have him sit 583 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: for a week and then he'll get going on the 584 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: start on a pitching program again. But Stephen, the reason 585 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: I bring this up is you've got Ian Anderson, who's 586 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,719 Speaker 1: kind of you know, starting to get an idea of 587 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: rehabbing coming back Hurst and Waldrop. It looks like, best 588 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: case scenario, he should work his way up as well 589 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: A J. Smith Schober. Probably in the next month or so, 590 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: we'll be back and we'll be on a regular rotation, 591 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: you know, in the minors. The point that I'm getting 592 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: at is is that even though the Brainers have dealt 593 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: with their plenty of injuries, when it comes to their 594 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: minor league depth pitching wise, they'll have some options that 595 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: they can have for them to navigate the rest of 596 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,959 Speaker 1: the regular season. Number One, your thoughts on you know, 597 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: the emergence of some of those young pitchers coming back 598 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: in the next month or so. But how that depth 599 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: he kind of give the Braves what they need to 600 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: where they don't have to go out and get that 601 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: significant starter. 602 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like I was just saying, starting pitching 603 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 3: is so expensive. At the trade deadline, you know, you 604 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 3: can go get fifth or six guys probably, but you know, 605 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 3: what are you going to get out of those guys? 606 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 3: There's always the question. But like legitimate starting pitching is very, 607 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 3: very expensive, and it's so much easier to use your 608 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 3: your own depth as you're kind of you know, starting 609 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 3: pitching reserve. And so what goes on down in the 610 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 3: minor leagues in Gwinetta and in Mississippi is a big deal. 611 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 3: It matters a lot for the major league team, even 612 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 3: if you're not a big minor league you know prospect guy, 613 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 3: and I'm not, but that stuff matters a lot for, 614 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 3: you know, for the major league team. We've seen it 615 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 3: the last few years. I mean, the Braves have dipped 616 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 3: down and gotten some of their better prospects up very quickly. 617 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 3: You know. We saw it with Michael Harris, we saw 618 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 3: it with Pitzer Strider. We saw it with Vaughan Grissom, 619 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 3: like they have been there as a as aggressive a 620 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 3: team as there is in old baseball about promoting their prospects. 621 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 3: I mean, we just saw it with Herston Walter. I 622 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 3: mean he came up. You know, he made like two 623 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 3: starts in Gennett before he came up. Now, I don't 624 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 3: know if that was the smartest move. You know a 625 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 3: lot of people were questioning that move even before Hurston 626 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 3: threw a pitch, and then obviously it didn't go very well. 627 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 3: But they are hyper aggressive with prospects because they know that, 628 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 3: you know, your own prospects are by far and away 629 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 3: the easiest and cheapest way to acquire depth. So yeah, 630 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 3: I mean, listen, it's a big deal. What Ian Anderson does. 631 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 3: I don't have a ton of hope, if I'm being honest, Like, 632 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 3: he was very bad before he got hurt, and then 633 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 3: he got hurt, so you know, he he he. I 634 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 3: don't know if people remember, but he got demoted to 635 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 3: Triple A. He was not pitching well in Triple A. 636 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 3: He got hurt in Triple A, and then obviously had 637 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 3: Tommy John and he's been out for a long time. 638 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 3: So I have no idea what to expect. If I 639 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 3: had to guess, I would expect he would still be 640 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 3: not very good. But who knows, you know, we could 641 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 3: see a different guy. It's really good news that Hurston's 642 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 3: not seriously injured. Obviously, anytime you see elbow inflammation you 643 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 3: get a little worried. So the fact that it's just 644 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 3: a week with him is good news. A J. Smith 645 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 3: Schaalber should be coming back at some point. He's been 646 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 3: out about a month with that oblique it's usually about 647 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 3: a two month thing, so he could be an option 648 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 3: when you get this like September, and then you know, 649 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 3: schwellenback has been obviously very good. He's still in the rotation. 650 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 2: J R. 651 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 3: Richie is a guy that's in the miners that's starting 652 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 3: to rehab. They've got a bunch of you know, they've 653 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 3: got a bunch of interesting guys. 654 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: David Fletcher and. 655 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 3: His knuckleball is the David Fletcher. 656 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: The talk of baseball. That knuckleball. 657 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 3: Now, now, if we see David Fletcher in the majors, 658 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 3: then some things have happened. I'll I'll put it that way. 659 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 3: If you see David Fletcher's knuckleball, you know, within a 660 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 3: Lana on his chest. Then some stuff has happened. But yeah, 661 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 3: I mean, listen, the miners. The miners in terms of pitching, 662 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 3: depth of mind is extremely important. It's the most important 663 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 3: aspect of your team in terms of your your farm 664 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 3: system is is how will you develop pictures? Because they're 665 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 3: so expensive to acquire at the major league level. So 666 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 3: that's the stuff I always look at when I'm looking 667 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 3: at minor league ball. Obviously you look at the position players. 668 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 3: You know, Nacho Alvarez has been bumped up to Guinnette. 669 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 3: He's done really well so far. Drake Baldwin has been 670 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 3: bumped up to Guinnett. He's done really well so far. 671 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 3: You know, as bad as Orlando or C has been, 672 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,479 Speaker 3: I don't you know, maybe I would not be stunned 673 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 3: if Nacho came up at some point. Listen. As aggressive 674 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 3: as the Braves are with prospects, I mean, they brought 675 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 3: Vaughn Grisson up straight from Double A, and Nacho's at 676 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 3: triple A, so he's already ahead of where Grissom was 677 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 3: when he got caught up. So I it would not 678 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 3: stun me at all to see Nacho at some point. 679 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 3: It would not stunn me to see Drake Baldwin, you know, 680 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 3: maybe moved in a deal. You know, even Nacho. I 681 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 3: don't know if they can afford to move Nacho as 682 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 3: bad as Orlando is. But you know, these guys doing 683 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 3: well at the upper miners is a big deal because 684 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 3: at the very least, it's it's good. You know, they're 685 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 3: good trade ships if you if you decide you want 686 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 3: to go that route, it's better than not having any 687 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 3: trade ships at all. So but yeah, your minor league's 688 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 3: the most important aspect of your minor league is how 689 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 3: how well you develop your own pitching depth, just because 690 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 3: of how so expensive it is to go acquire it, 691 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 3: you know, in July. 692 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and we're going to see that pitching depth on 693 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: display tomorrow because you know, we the last time we 694 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: were talking, Steven, we were talking about Alex and Thopolis's 695 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: comments when it came to a six man rotation. Well, well, 696 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 1: now with Hirst and Waldrip be an option to triple A, 697 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: Ray kurzsmen optioned to triple A. You know, Waldrop having 698 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: his injury. You know, there's some pressure on Spincer Swellobaker. 699 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to add pressure to it, but Spencer 700 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: Swellenbach at the very least a fifth starter. You hope 701 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: he can stay the course for a while. Pretty big 702 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: matchup between him and Casey Maiz. This Tiger pitching staff 703 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 1: a lot like the Nationals, a very underrated pitching staff, 704 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,240 Speaker 1: very very good starting pitching, you know option for the Tigers. 705 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: But Spincher swelling Bok, he looked very impressive against the 706 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 1: Orioles last week. If he could put together another start, 707 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 1: I could see him potentially having that fifth starter spot 708 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: in place through the end or through at least the 709 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: All Star breaks. So a needed start for him, especially 710 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: with the fact that even though Ronald the Lopez will 711 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: be on the mound for the Braves on Wednesday, Tarret 712 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 1: Scuball will be on the mound for the Tigers. So 713 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 1: a big opportunity for Spencer for Spencer Swellingbock tomorrow. Hopefully 714 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 1: he can carry over some of the momentum that we 715 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 1: saw with how will he pitched against the Orioles. 716 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, you'd love to win the series tomorrow, so that 717 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,439 Speaker 3: you know you don't have to beat schoolball to win 718 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 3: the series. Uh, People who don't know, maybe you know 719 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 3: he's not a household name just because he plays on 720 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 3: the Tigers but that dude is legit and he is nasty. 721 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 3: He's one of the best pitchers in baseball, and you 722 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,280 Speaker 3: don't want to have to beat him to win the series. 723 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 3: You know, if you win the series tomorrow, then it's 724 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 3: kind of a free role. You can you know, you 725 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 3: can beat him for the sweep or you know, even 726 00:35:58,560 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 3: if you lose the game, at least to win this. 727 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 3: So it'd be lovely to win the series straight out 728 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 3: tomorrow with Schwellenbach. Like you said, he pitched really well 729 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 3: against Baltimore. I mean he faced Baltimore's full lineup. I 730 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 3: mean he Gunner Henderson and everybody, and he gave up 731 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 3: I think two runs and six innings or something like that. 732 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 3: So you know, he's he's very interesting. He's certainly not 733 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,399 Speaker 3: a finished product. But you know, of all the guys 734 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,439 Speaker 3: that have come up, maybe with the exception of AJ 735 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 3: before he got hurt, Spencer has looked the most ready, 736 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 3: and you know he's gonna have a role on the team. 737 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,720 Speaker 3: I mean, I would not be surprised if Bryce Elder 738 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 3: came up at some point and the Braves kind of 739 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 3: went back to that six man rotation. I think they 740 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 3: You and I talked about this last time. But I 741 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 3: think they they have switched their thinking to valuing keeping 742 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 3: their pictures fresh and healthy versus you know, having their 743 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 3: best pitchers out there as as often as possible, which 744 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 3: I think is the right move. I think that's a 745 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 3: very smart move. So not be surprised if they went 746 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 3: back to the six men rotation and just use Bryce 747 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 3: Elder or Alan Winens or somebody like that just to cover, 748 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 3: you know, for a chunk of the season until Aja's 749 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 3: you know, ready, or one of the other guys is ready, 750 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 3: but or Alex goes and gets somebody. But it will 751 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 3: be interesting to see what they do. You know, they 752 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 3: have an off day on Thursday, so they can effectively 753 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,359 Speaker 3: still use a six men rotation even with only five 754 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 3: starters because the off day can kind of serve as 755 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 3: the sixth starter this week. So that does help, and 756 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 3: it will be interesting what they do. My guess is 757 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 3: Bryce Elder is gonna come up at some point, but 758 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 3: I mean with Alex, you never know. I mean, every 759 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 3: day we get a notification from the team account, you know, 760 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 3: we're just as surprised as anybody. So we'll see what 761 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 3: they do. But they have very clearly shown an interest 762 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 3: in keeping their starters healthy by giving them extra rest. 763 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 3: So my guess is at some point we're going to 764 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 3: see another starter come up and they'll go back to 765 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 3: a six man rotation. 766 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 1: Absolutely, And the good thing about it is is that, 767 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 1: you know, going back to that six man rotation, the 768 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 1: thing is is that that approach, it's keeping one of 769 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 1: the best starting staffs in baseball fresh and that definitely 770 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 1: is needed on nights where the offense has struggled, which 771 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 1: has been more often than not. But you just have 772 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,879 Speaker 1: to hope that it continues and the Braves can get 773 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 1: a win tomorrow. We're gonna have continue to have you 774 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,400 Speaker 1: covered here on the Hammer Territory podcast. Brad and Scott 775 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 1: will be back on Wednesday night. Then later this week 776 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,839 Speaker 1: me and Steven will be back. Of course, we you know, 777 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 1: gonna continue to our conversations about the trade deadline. We've 778 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,879 Speaker 1: got the draft coming up, and obviously hopefully the Braves 779 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: can continue to keep on winning. As Brian Snicker said 780 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,359 Speaker 1: earlier tonight, we're still focused on winning that East. We're 781 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 1: not focused on winning the wild card. So wins that 782 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,240 Speaker 1: can be strung together will definitely help the Braves, especially 783 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 1: with some top tough competition coming up. But Steven, it's 784 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 1: been a pleasure. I hope you have a great night 785 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:45,399 Speaker 1: and we'll talk to you again later this week. 786 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,440 Speaker 3: All right, man, thank you, Sean, Yeah, buddy, Yeah, good 787 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 3: to talk as always. You know, it's it's a big week, 788 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 3: you know the Braves. You know, they've got Detroit and 789 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,840 Speaker 3: then I think they go do they go straight to 790 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:00,840 Speaker 3: the Yankees? I think they go straight. 791 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 1: Actually off day, they're off day, they travel I believe 792 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,760 Speaker 1: on Thursday. Then they got the weekend series against the Yankees. 793 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 1: I believe. 794 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so in New York and the Yankees are 795 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 3: you know, if they're not the best team in baseball, 796 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 3: they're one of the best teams in baseball. So that's 797 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,399 Speaker 3: gonna be you know, it would be lovely to get 798 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 3: some wins against Detroit before you have to go up 799 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 3: to New York and face you know, Lon Soto and 800 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 3: Aaron Judge and Stanton and all those guys. So, you know, 801 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 3: big a couple of games coming up tomorrow and Wednesday 802 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 3: and then off to New York for the weekend. 803 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and we'll have you covered throughout, and obviously we'll 804 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: also have you covered whenever big News does occur, hopefully 805 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: more positive news than negative news moving forward, But until 806 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:41,719 Speaker 1: next time, Steven Tober you can find them and be 807 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 1: underscore alliers. My name is Sean Coleman. You can find 808 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 1: me at Stat's sac on X. Of course, you can 809 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 1: find at Hammer Territory across all forms of social media against. 810 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,399 Speaker 1: Scott and Brad will be with you again on Wednesday night, 811 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 1: but until the end, go braves. This has been the 812 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 1: Hammer Territory Podcast, part of the Foul Territory Podcasts and 813 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 1: networks Go Rags. We'll talk to you again soon here on 814 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 1: the Hammer Territory Podcast