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Speaker 3: We're back our number two here on the Herd. It's

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Speaker 3: me Jason McIntyre in for Colin Cowherd, joined by Rachel Nichols.

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Speaker 3: We have Albert Rear coming up. Alberbreer just a mountain

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Speaker 3: of information. The guy's amazing and listen. I know it's

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Speaker 3: football season for college in NFL, but you know I

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Speaker 3: love me some NBA and Rachel loves the NBA. Two

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Speaker 3: We have a fun, spicy NBA topic for later in

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Speaker 3: the hours, just a few minutes. NFL fans, don't worry

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Speaker 3: and give it. How people seem to feel about this guy,

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Speaker 3: I think they're gonna like our take on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a little conversation going on with that.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, it'll be fun. But that's later in

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Speaker 3: the hour. That Greg Jennings, my guy. Greg Jennings, bodybuilder

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Speaker 3: slash former NFL wide receiver. He's going to be in

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Speaker 3: the final hour. Greg Jennings is like Arnold. Honestly, he

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Speaker 3: is so jacked right now. The guy's a machine.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 3: So earlier this week we did my Super Bowl tiers

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Speaker 3: and the forty nine ers in the top tier really

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Speaker 5: Understandable chiefs Roy Tier three. So I was like, why.

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Speaker 3: Don't we do it for college football? Sure, staff is like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: on board, got it. Here we go College Football National

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Speaker 3: Championship Tiers. Let's start with the group we're calling the

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Speaker 3: Head of the Class. By the way, Head of the Class.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to my brother. We would watch that show

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Speaker 3: in the nineties all the time.

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Speaker 6: It was that.

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Speaker 5: I think, yes, Robin, give it. Thank you, Rachel.

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Speaker 3: All right, Head of the Class. Top college football contenders.

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Speaker 3: Should be no surprise that Clemson is up there. If

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Speaker 3: you listen to Bruce Fellman when he was on this week,

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Speaker 3: they're stacked. They have one of the best defensive lines

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Speaker 3: in the country. They have sixteen starters back.

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Speaker 5: Clemson's in there.

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Speaker 3: Ohio State defending champs, have the best player in the country,

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Speaker 3: Jeremiah Smith. Caleb Downs, an elite defender Penn State Ratuons,

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Speaker 3: drew Aller and eventually James Franklin's.

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Speaker 5: Gonna win a big game? Am I right? Is that

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Speaker 6: Now?

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Speaker 3: Alabama surprised some people. Someone in the morning meeting, was

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Speaker 5: Jay? You sure, folks? Alabama?

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Speaker 3: From the notes, five star quarterback Ty Simpson has been

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Speaker 3: waiting on the bench for a few years to take

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Speaker 3: over for Jalen Milroe. Does that not sound like Arts

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Speaker 3: Manning or what? This is a really good team and

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Speaker 3: I'm a buyer in Kaylen de boor I didn't know

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Speaker 3: that Belichick. Rachel had that earlier. Belichick was going to

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Speaker 3: Washington before he got to UNC. Guess who was at Washington.

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Speaker 3: Kayland wore smart as hell. I like Alabama to make

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Speaker 3: the playoff and contend for the Natty. All right, let's

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Speaker 3: go to the next group called the Honor Roll, something

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Speaker 3: I was on I think in seventh grade and not

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Speaker 3: more after that, the Otto role. Obviously, Georgia Bulldogs are

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Speaker 3: so I do think there's a pullback. I know they

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Speaker 3: don't replace, they reload. Don't worry with five stars, They're

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Speaker 3: Quarterback is a question, but my guy, I have a

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Speaker 3: couple of Notre Dame insiders who are very plugged in.

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Speaker 3: They like the quarterback a lot. Oregon Ducks is a

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Speaker 3: I haven't heard a damn thing about Oregon since Ohio

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Speaker 3: on the honor roll. And finally we have a waitlisted

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Speaker 3: I was waitlisted at one university. When I applied, I

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Speaker 3: and the waitlist here is LSU with nuss Meyer at quarterback.

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Speaker 3: We'll see what they're made of in the opener against Clemson.

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Speaker 3: The you the team of my youth. Yes, I owned

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Speaker 3: I just don't love Carson Beck a lot, like the

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Speaker 3: My guys Sellers the quarterback at South Carolina. I think

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Speaker 3: they're gonna be spicy. He's the guy I would watch

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Speaker 3: coming out of nowhere to like go number one. Maybe

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Speaker 3: he carries the game Cocks to the playoff. And finally,

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Speaker 3: Mike dark Horse that Texas Tech Red Raiders. I was

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Speaker 3: in Vegas last week. I bet some teams in college football.

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Speaker 3: Texas Tech to make the playoff was one of my

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Speaker 3: long shot bets. I love what they did in the portal.

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Speaker 5: There's your college football tiers from your boy. All right,

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Speaker 3: Our guest, Albert Breer, mister Monday Morning Quarterback, as is

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Speaker 3: always obligatory. I have to ask him about Ohio State

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Speaker 3: right out of the gate breer. Are you disappointed I

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Speaker 3: didn't have the buck Eyes winning at all?

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Speaker 5: Already?

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Speaker 2: All who'd you have?

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Speaker 3: So?

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Speaker 2: I was looking at my phone.

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Speaker 5: You weren't even paying attention, been paying attention?

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Speaker 2: That's not me, No, no, no, I had Oh d

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Speaker 3: Thank you? Okay, So I think they could be very good.

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Speaker 3: But I do think Penn State probably gets him this year.

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Speaker 3: Clemson's loaded, and Alabama is the team I bet to

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Speaker 3: win the Natty or you bet Alabama?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, we'll see, we'll see.

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Speaker 6: Like I like, I think Ohio State is one of

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Speaker 6: better November than we are in September. It's I mean,

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Speaker 6: I think the game on Saturday is going to be

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Speaker 2: I think they'll be in good shape going into December.

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Speaker 3: Now, there's a rumor on a message board that you

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Speaker 2: I will be in the locker room, but I will

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Speaker 6: I guess that's a big issue this week, right, Like,

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Speaker 2: It's I'm excited to get out there. Man.

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Speaker 6: It'll be my two sons first game there with two,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, final college football. Got to ask about

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Speaker 3: arch Manning. I keep asking every guest this week. Do

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Speaker 3: we know if he's good? I mean, yeah, I'm enough

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Speaker 6: Interesting, actually, JMC I asked around about him, you know,

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Speaker 2: You know, like May, when you started to see him.

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Speaker 6: Popping up as the number one overall pick in mock drafts,

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Speaker 6: and you know, with all due respect to him, I

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Speaker 6: the physical tools are there.

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Speaker 2: He's a great kid.

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Speaker 6: You know, he's been raised right, so there are a

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Speaker 6: lot of like great pieces to.

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Speaker 6: But I mean, I think the leap that everybody's making

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Speaker 6: And I don't know that's really respectful.

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Speaker 6: It is to see the game, to think the game

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Speaker 6: about Arch Manning. And I think he'd agree with this,

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Speaker 6: about what he's going to.

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Speaker 6: And unfortunately, you know the way all this stuff works today,

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Speaker 2: To to just let that happen naturally, but you kind

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Speaker 2: of wish that it could.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no shot of that. All right, let's shift our

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Speaker 3: a conference championship game in the NFC by a mile.

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Speaker 3: And then you Michael Parson showing up at the airport.

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Speaker 3: at what point does this turn from circus to kind

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Speaker 6: of this is kind of you know, what Jerry's invited

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Speaker 6: over the last few years, the way He's handled a

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Speaker 6: lot of these contract negotiations.

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Speaker 2: The pacing of.

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Speaker 6: It actually isn't much different than the negotiation with Zach

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Speaker 3: Yeah, at what point, I mean, Micah probably has a

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Speaker 3: I think Micah has the leverage here. Let me get

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Speaker 6: I mean, all due respect Brian Schottenheimer, this wasn't like

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Speaker 6: I just I don't know if there's anything that will

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Speaker 6: it and say, Jerry's going to get a deal done

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Speaker 2: To wait until late.

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Speaker 6: And the headlines may be part of the benefit for

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Speaker 5: Okay, So Albert, you're a smart guy.

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Speaker 3: You've been in radio, TV writing, you cover the league forever.

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Speaker 3: Do you want to win headlines and be in the

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Speaker 2: Like, well, you know what my answer is exactly, And.

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Speaker 3: That's the only reason I'm pushing back now. You said

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Speaker 3: that just a Jerry I think that.

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Speaker 6: I mean most of them think that way. I get

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Speaker 2: Just reality of it, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 6: Like so, I think Jerry's a little bit more forceful

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Jerry can go to the table and

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Speaker 5: You can't do anything, come play.

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Speaker 3: And honestly, I'm at the point whereer, you know, I'm

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Speaker 6: On my part, but I mean, but that's the thing is, like,

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Speaker 2: And again, like that whole thing like I have.

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Speaker 5: I don't like that.

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Speaker 5: So if I'm Micah, hey man, I just saw what

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Speaker 6: I don't care.

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Speaker 6: seeing anything that anything like that happening with that particular

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Speaker 6: guy like Dak Prescott's not that way, but I would

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Speaker 6: agree that, like it doesn't always send the best message

440
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Speaker 6: to your locker room when you're doing these sorts of things,

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Speaker 6: you know. I mean, I think in a lot of ways,

442
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Speaker 6: these contract negotiations send messages to the locker room. And

443
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Speaker 6: I think, you know, for example, like Terry McLaurin in Washington,

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Speaker 6: I think one of the tricky things about that one is,

445
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Speaker 6: and and was over the course of the last few months,

446
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Speaker 6: was like, I mean, if you're if you're in a

447
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Speaker 6: negotiation with somebody who isn't all that well liked or

448
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Speaker 6: well respected in the locker room, and there's a dispute, well,

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Speaker 6: I think guys kind of, you know, just look the

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Speaker 6: other way on it.

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Speaker 2: But if it's a guy like a McLaurin, like.

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Speaker 6: They're gonna be guys in the locker room, they're gonna

453
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Speaker 6: look at it and say, like, you messed with that guy,

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Speaker 6: And now that they've paid him, they can point and say,

455
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Speaker 6: you know what, we took care of him.

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Speaker 2: Like it was. It got a little messy, but in

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Speaker 2: the end we were we were able to find a.

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Speaker 6: Solution and he's happy and we're happy, and that's the

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Speaker 6: kind of guy that we pay. So, you know, I think,

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Speaker 6: more often than more often than people realize, players keep

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Speaker 6: score by contract, players keep score by money, and so

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Speaker 6: you know, they're paying attention to the way that you

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Speaker 6: handle these sorts of negotiations because they know if one

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Speaker 6: of the biggest stars in the team can be treated

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Speaker 6: a certain way, well, and they're certainly not going to

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Speaker 6: be exempt from it.

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Speaker 5: All right, let's move off the Cowboys. I know management

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Speaker 5: will love that. I do have to ask.

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Speaker 3: I'm taking some heat in Chicago, Albert Okay, yeah, they're

470
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Speaker 3: upset with me, Kyle Long. Is they taking jabs at

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Speaker 3: me like this Caleb Williams Ben Johnson stuff. Again, I'm

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Speaker 3: listening to the quotes and I'm looking at the actions

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Speaker 3: of Ben Johnson, and I'm just telling you, from my

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Speaker 3: point of view, something's going on there. It doesn't feel

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Speaker 3: like it's off to a good start. They've had like

476
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Speaker 3: four or five months together, and the messaging from Ben. Now,

477
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Speaker 3: maybe this is his personality. I don't know what's upbringing.

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Speaker 3: I don't know his background. It just doesn't seem positive.

479
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Speaker 3: And then they signed pagent to a random out of nowhere.

480
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Speaker 3: This guy came out of nowhere and they just signed

481
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Speaker 3: him to a deal. I'm like, what is happening? So

482
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Speaker 3: to maybe talk talk Bears fans off the ledge or

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Speaker 3: side with me either one.

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Speaker 6: I think he's being I think I think Ben's being

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Speaker 6: intentionally tough on on on Caleb Williams, Like, I think

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Speaker 6: that's that that that's really the long and short of it.

487
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Speaker 6: And this has been being himself and this is the

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Speaker 6: way he coaches, and you know, as far as I

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Speaker 6: can tell, like Caleb has been on board with it.

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Speaker 6: And it produced some really ugly days early in training camp,

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Speaker 6: like it did not look good. But if you talked

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Speaker 6: to Ben about it, what he would tell you is

493
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Speaker 6: we were going through a process where we wanted to

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Speaker 6: feed him through a fire hose.

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Speaker 2: And give him as much as we.

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Speaker 6: Possibly could, overload him with information, overload him with scheme,

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Speaker 6: and then come back and narrow down what he's doing

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Speaker 6: and figure out what he does well and what he

499
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Speaker 6: doesn't do well, so all of this stuff that he

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Speaker 6: doesn't do well out and build an offense around his strengths.

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Speaker 6: And so I think, like you juxtapose the early days

502
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Speaker 6: in camp against the second preseason game, and you see

503
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Speaker 6: a guy who was playing much faster. You see a

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Speaker 6: guy who's playing much more confidently because they had figured

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Speaker 6: out exactly what he does best. They've they've honed in

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Speaker 6: on that, and then they really sort of find too

507
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Speaker 6: some of the stuff as far as how fast he's playing.

508
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Speaker 2: How quick the ball is getting out, all of that.

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Speaker 6: And I know it didn't look quite the same against

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Speaker 6: Kansas City. He wasn't quite as sharp against Kansas City

511
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Speaker 6: in the last preseason game. But I think this has

512
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Speaker 6: gone according to plan, and you know, we'll have to

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Speaker 6: see what it looks like when the regular season starts.

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Speaker 2: But I think people who've been around Ben would remind you.

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Speaker 6: Like they had days like this with Jared Goff in

516
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Speaker 6: training camp in Detroit, and nobody made us big a

517
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Speaker 6: deal out of it because golf was already a proven commodity.

518
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Speaker 6: We already had an idea of what golf is. You know,

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Speaker 6: we'll see if it works with the younger guy.

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Speaker 5: Huh. That's positive and upbeat, and I like it.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate it. I do have to ask Caleb kind

522
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Speaker 3: of had the run of the show last year. He

523
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Speaker 3: could do whatever he wanted. He was watching film by himself, reportedly, Well,

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Speaker 3: guess what the year prior at USC, he was also

525
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Speaker 3: just doing his own thing, a lot of backyard football, right,

526
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Speaker 3: So two years of just hey, freelance, make a play,

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Speaker 3: go go get us some points.

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Speaker 5: How tough is it going to be to go from that?

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Speaker 5: To follow my lead?

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Speaker 3: Drop read react quickly like it's probably at least a

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Speaker 3: year with Ben before we see anything close to what

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Speaker 3: he wants.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's a mentality change, you know.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you're you're trying to coach a playing style

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Speaker 6: out of somebody, and that's not an easy thing to do,

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Speaker 6: you know.

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Speaker 2: I think beyond just that, like in.

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Speaker 6: College, like he was asked in a lot of cases

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Speaker 6: to be the best player on the field, and I

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Speaker 6: think you saw that reflected in the way that he played.

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Speaker 6: It was a lot of big play hunting, a lot

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Speaker 6: of passing up the the the easy stuff. And what

544
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Speaker 6: they're trying to teach him to do is play the

545
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Speaker 6: game and and and play quarterback and and in a

546
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Speaker 6: more between the lines sort of ways instead of constantly

547
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Speaker 6: coloring outside the lines. You can run and scramble to

548
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Speaker 6: create throws. In the NFL, you can't do it all

549
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Speaker 6: the time. And I think I'm a Homes because you

550
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Speaker 6: want a story on Pat and Pat and I talked

551
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Speaker 6: about this, you know, earlier in the month. Is like,

552
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Speaker 6: if you look at his numbers, Mahomes' numbers, he averaged

553
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Speaker 6: over ten carries a game when he was at Texas Tech.

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Speaker 6: That number for his NFL career is under four per game.

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Speaker 6: And that's a very intentional thing that for Mahomes is

556
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Speaker 6: going from having to be the best player on the

557
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Speaker 6: field on almost every play too.

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Speaker 2: I've got good teammates around me.

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Speaker 6: I can trust them, I can get the ball in

560
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Speaker 6: their hands, and then when I need to be superman,

561
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Speaker 6: I can always put the cape on. That's what they're

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Speaker 6: trying to get Caleb to do in Chicago is there

563
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Speaker 6: are going to be certain plays where we just want

564
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Speaker 6: to have your hands at ten and two on the

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Speaker 6: wheel and just run the offense. And we know that,

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Speaker 6: we know that you're capable of the bigger stuff when

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Speaker 6: we need it, but it can't be all the time.

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Speaker 2: And I think there.

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Speaker 6: Were points last year we saw what happens when he's

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Speaker 6: trying to be that guy all the time, and they're

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Speaker 6: trying to dial that back and say, just play quarterback

572
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Speaker 6: four times out of five, and then that fifth time

573
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Speaker 6: you can go and show everybody exactly what you're capable.

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Speaker 3: Your analogy for Caleb got me thinking of the great

575
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 3: movie Old School, where Will Ferrell, you know, used to

576
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 3: be a party animal. Then he's really resigned to the

577
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 3: birds and his wife's like, we don't want to see

578
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 3: old Frank the tank and then he just comes out.

579
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Speaker 5: And he's beer bong and or funneling whatever the kids

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Speaker 5: call it. Anyways. Albert Breer Monday Morning Quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Great stuff as always, Hey, good luck to your buck

582
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Speaker 3: guyes this weekend.

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Speaker 5: I loaded up. I could use a new car, so

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Speaker 5: let's go buck guys.

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Speaker 2: You money on them?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, a couple of bucks like it.

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Speaker 3: I like it.

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Speaker 2: It's been a while.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we'll do all right, Albert, thank you? All right,

590
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 3: great stuff from Albert Brier. All right. Coming up next,

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Speaker 3: Rachel tells us who fans think is the most annoying

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Speaker 3: player in the NFL. I'm gonna guess it's a cowboy.

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Speaker 3: But that's just a guess. That's next.

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Speaker 7: behind the stories in the world of sports and pop culture,

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Speaker 7: stories that well other shows don't seem to have the

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Speaker 2: That's Covino and.

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Speaker 3: Rich, phenomenal stuff from that. Albert Brier. The guy's good,

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Speaker 3: he really is. And when he goes on his camp tours,

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Speaker 3: he comes to my town to cover a team and

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Speaker 3: always texts me he is, Oh, let's go to buy He's.

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Speaker 5: A really nice guy.

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Speaker 3: Let's go to Rachel Nichols with the news. No, no, no.

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Speaker 5: Turn on the news.

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Speaker 2: This is the herd line news.

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Speaker 4: Jason fans have voted Aaron Rodgers the most annoying football

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Speaker 4: player in the NFL. Yes, that's from a poll conducted

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Speaker 4: by the Action Network. Rogers received a whopping twenty four

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Speaker 4: percent of the total vote. They also broke it down

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Speaker 4: by fan base, and the numbers there are even more stark.

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Speaker 4: Twenty one of the NFL's thirty two fan bases rate

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Speaker 4: Rogers as the most annoying, including the fan base in

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Speaker 4: Green Bay, the fan base in Pittsburgh, where he currently plays,

638
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Speaker 4: and the fan base of the New York Jets, of

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Speaker 4: which you are a card carrying member. So, for you,

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Speaker 4: is Aaron Rodgers the most annoying player in the NFL?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 4: Was it?

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Speaker 5: Let me hear the rest? Were there any runner ups

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Speaker 5: or anything?

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Speaker 2: So we have we have here.

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Speaker 4: You can see on the screen healthy Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: By the way, with them, I feel like the reasons

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Speaker 4: are different.

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Speaker 5: This is my opinion. You tell me yours.

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Speaker 4: I think the reasons with Travis particularly and Patrick kind

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Speaker 4: of by proxy, is that there's a lot of football

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Speaker 4: fans who are obviously sick of the Taylor Stift angle.

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Speaker 5: Or the whatever angle.

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Speaker 4: Aaron, in my opinion, it seems to be more of

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Speaker 4: how he has handled pims wealth. Travis, by the way,

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Speaker 4: his jersey sales since he got engaged up two hundred percent. Wow,

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Speaker 4: So not every fan is annoyed with him. Yeah, apparently

659
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 4: every fan is annoyed.

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00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 3: And let's be real with some of these polls, I

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Speaker 3: mean action that we're probably talked to. I'm five thousand

662
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 3: people and they didn't talk to five million.

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00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 5: But I don't.

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Speaker 3: Totally disagree with Aaron Rodgers being the most annoying. I

665
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 3: can't even I'm scrambling to think of a second. I mean,

666
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 3: Odell Beckham isn't even in the league. Was he was

667
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 3: he in the league last year? I mean, how is

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00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 3: he on the list? But yeah, Aaron Rodgers, I wonder

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Speaker 3: I would love to hear his thoughts on that. Oh,

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00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 3: you think that Pittsburgh media will ask him.

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00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 4: I wonder if Pat mcfee'l ask him.

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's right, Hey, you were voted a most annoying

673
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 3: player in the league. Your thoughts, Aaron, Oh, it's an honor.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to go back into a dark When you

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Speaker 3: go to a darkness retreat, you kind of alienate. Like

676
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Speaker 3: seventy five people had not heard of a darkness I

677
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 3: had not before he said he was doing.

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Speaker 5: I was like, what the hell is a darkness retreat?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean maybe he'll turn up at Burning Man this.

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Speaker 2: Have you been to Burning Man?

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Speaker 4: By the way, I am very proud to say not

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Speaker 4: only have I never been to Burning Man, I haven't

683
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Speaker 4: looked at anything from Burning Man. I just feel like

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00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 4: dirt my hands just hearing you talk about Burning Man.

685
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

686
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 5: I told my buddies I would some guys win. A

687
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 5: couple of years ago.

688
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 3: I was like, I'll I'll helicopter in for a night,

689
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 3: but there's no way I'm staying in the desert helicopter.

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00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 3: I could see Aaron Rodgers just going to Burning Man

691
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 3: and living it up, because he's that kind of guy.

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Speaker 4: You know that peanuts character fig Pen. Yes, that's what

693
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 4: I think of when I think Burnings. Yes, let's talk

694
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 4: a little Molik Neighbors. He had an incredible rookie year,

695
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 4: but that toe injury limited his off season work. He

696
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 4: has a back issue that kept him sidelined sideline for

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00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 4: a month training camp. The Neighbors said that despite being

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00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 4: banged up, quote, when it's game time and those lights

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00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 4: are on, my body is going to turn it on.

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Speaker 5: So do you think j Max that.

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Speaker 4: His numbers are gonna I mean his numbers were amazing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 4: Look last season he missed two games, right, and his quarterback,

704
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 4: Daniel Jones was released in the middle of the season.

705
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 4: And yet look at this most receptions he ranked second

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Speaker 4: ever in NFL history.

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Speaker 5: Do you feel like he can top it this year? Oh?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 5: Top that?

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Speaker 3: Well, he's got a better quarterback. He probably has a

711
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 3: better backup.

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Speaker 5: I mean he was.

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00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 3: Catching passes from that guy de Vito.

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Speaker 5: Yes, right, who's now that guy de Vito? De Vito's

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Speaker 5: on the Patriots.

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00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, he got picked up by the Patriots.

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00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 3: So I rode Neighbors to a fantasy championship last year

718
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,959
Speaker 3: in my big money league. It was amazing and I

719
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Speaker 3: didn't even know he's in like jeopardy of is he

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Speaker 3: gonna miss time?

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Speaker 2: This is not good.

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Speaker 5: Oh oh, he's okay.

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Speaker 4: He said it's a minor back injury.

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Speaker 5: That was his quote. Is there such a thing?

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Speaker 2: You know what?

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00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 4: I like to say, there is no such thing as

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00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 4: a minor back injury. But you know, he's he has

728
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 4: been a gamer even when he's been hurt.

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00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 5: He was hurt a lot.

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Speaker 4: Not just he missed two games, but he was hurt

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Speaker 4: and sort of practices and missed among of practices last year,

732
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Speaker 4: and he showed up at game talk.

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Speaker 5: That's not great.

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Speaker 3: I mean, who's your second skill position player, Tyrone Tracy

735
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 3: the running back. I mean, that's not good. And they

736
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 3: got a brutal schedule early. If Neighbors has to miss

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00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 3: any time, this team is cooked. I mean we already

738
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 3: think they are. Oh boy, that's not good. Get healthy,

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Speaker 3: Malik out, go Moss.

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Speaker 4: Some guys, you look at this on episode that already

741
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 4: the full screen. All right, let's look at the Bills

742
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 4: quarterback situation is in a little bit better shape, right,

743
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 4: Josh Allen winning the MVP last year, so clearly he's

744
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 4: doing a ton of things right. But he recently said

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00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 4: he knows this style of play has to quote evolved.

746
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 4: In specific, he said he needs to be taking fewer hits.

747
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 4: He said, quote just being smarter, sliding, getting at a bound,

748
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 4: throwing ball away a little bit quicker, and not taking

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00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 4: those extra one or two hits a game that start

750
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 4: adding up. So j Mack his sack totals have actually

751
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 4: been going down each of the last three seasons, and

752
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 4: he said it's been making feel better in the off season.

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00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 4: He's there in the MVP, though, I mean, do you

754
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 4: think all of this is this really where he needs

755
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 4: to quote evolve. Do you think it's going to make

756
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 4: a difference if he's taking less hits.

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00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:25,959
Speaker 5: It's interesting.

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00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,959
Speaker 3: So a buddy of mine, the hardcore gambler, was making

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00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 3: money by he would bet under totals for rushing for

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00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 3: Josh Allen early in the season because Buffalo made it

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00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 3: pretty clear, we don't need you running in September October. Yeah,

762
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 3: big games November, December, January, save it for then, so

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00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 3: he would run more late in the season.

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Speaker 5: He's their best option.

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Speaker 3: I just wonder if he's saying, you know what, I'm

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00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 3: just going to save my running until the playoffs. Now,

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00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 3: at this point, we got nothing to prove. We're going

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00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 3: to be a one, two or three seed. Let's just

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00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 3: sit because in January, when he tucks and runs, like

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Speaker 3: just like Ellen Hurts and Lamar Jackson, it's an unstoppable

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Speaker 3: play the defense, Like, if you're in man and you

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Speaker 3: got your back turn to the quarterback, you're in trouble. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And if you're in zone, he's going to pick you apart.

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00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 3: So I mean, I like this attitude.

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Speaker 5: Alan just has to He's just got to beat the

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00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 5: Chiefs in the playoffs. That's it. That's the last thing

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00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 5: him and Lamar have left to do. That's what it

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00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 5: feels like. I mean, this is all great.

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00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 4: It's always nice to try to fine tune and now

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00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,720
Speaker 4: here's your game, you know, in all the different ways.

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00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 4: But his running is so much of his strength, right,

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00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 4: so there's going to be hitsy too. I mean that's

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00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 4: just how it works wellcause Glamar's at the top of

784
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 4: the list of guys taking those kinds of hits. So

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00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 4: that's how it is.

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Speaker 5: It's just you gotta bear down in the in the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if they track slides, but I feel

788
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 3: like Jalen Hurts slides way more yes than Josh Allen,

789
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Speaker 3: who's like six' five and can absorb hits from. Linebacker

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00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 3: so uh, yeah good luck To Josh allen this.

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Speaker 5: Year rachel with the.

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Speaker 2: News well that's the, news and thanks for stopping by

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Speaker 5: Last week Of. October BUT i saw this yesterday on Ig.

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Speaker 3: Luka doncic is playing In, EuroBasket which is huge this.

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Speaker 5: Summer It's joki is playing all the stars.

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Speaker 3: Internationally this is the place Where yannis slapped one of

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Speaker 3: his teammates In greece upside the, head And Luka doncic

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Speaker 3: was photographed with two people you may, recognize and that

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Speaker 3: would Be Genie buss And Rob. Polenka you see that

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Speaker 3: they traveled To europe For EuroBasket to See, luca their.

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Speaker 3: Guy you guys obviously are On. Instagram i'm sure every

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Speaker 3: single person listening to the show. Is and you've Seen

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Speaker 3: lebron not get invited to That luca, dinner not get any,

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Speaker 3: love no contract. Extension AND i haven't seen any photos

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Speaker 3: With genie And. Lebron he's playing basketball with his kids

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Speaker 3: in the, Driveway he's playing a lot of golf with

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Speaker 3: his Guys Maverick carter and. Company AND i have to,

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Speaker 3: wonder you guys Know i'm A lebron guy through and.

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Speaker 5: THROUGH i will Say i've been saying it for.

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Speaker 3: Years lebron when he won the championship with The, lakers

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Speaker 3: became the goat Past Michael.

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Speaker 5: Jordan i'm Sure rachel and others. Disagree it's.

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Speaker 3: Fine it's a subjective. DISCUSSION i Think lebron's the. GOAT

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Speaker 3: i also think right now he has to be stewing

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Speaker 3: beyond belief of what's going down with The. LAKERS i

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Speaker 3: want to remind you, guys The lakers were the third

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00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 3: seed in The west last, year and that's trading ad. Midseason,

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Speaker 3: reportedly they did not run it By lebron. Beforehand they

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Speaker 3: bring On. Luca he's, hurt missus. Time they're still. Third

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Speaker 3: lebron's second Team ALL nba and he can't get an,

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Speaker 3: extension he can't get any, love and they're sucking up

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00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 3: To Luka. Doncic, Now, rachel you've been around THE nba

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Speaker 3: for a long. Time you Know lebron in his, camp

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Speaker 3: and we. Agree this is not the worst thing in the.

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Speaker 3: World this is kind of standard operating. Procedure if you're A,

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Speaker 3: gm a big wheeler on a, team you go To,

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Speaker 3: EuroBasket see your Star. Jokich, obviously The nuggets are going

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Speaker 3: to be well.

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Speaker 5: Represented BUT i just have.

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00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 3: To wonder When lebron is sitting there on the seventeenth

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Speaker 3: and has going card school.

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Speaker 5: There With luca In europe AND i can't.

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Speaker 3: Get a, HANGOUT i can't get.

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Speaker 5: Anything CAN i get a call AND.

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Speaker 3: I just want To i'm not ready to like feel

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Speaker 3: bad For, lebron But i'm just.

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Speaker 5: Curious what's going?

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Speaker 3: Through is?

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Speaker 6: It?

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Speaker 3: Well what do you?

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Speaker 4: WANT geni best to invite him over for like a

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Speaker 4: knitting places something?

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Speaker 5: Up what happened? Here what is your?

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Speaker 3: PREFERENCE i Want lebron to get the love you want

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Speaker 3: him to get IT i Want let's.

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Speaker 5: Let's break this. Down, okay you're a.

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Speaker 4: Basket as you, noted all The nuggets brass went to

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Speaker 4: go See jokic at your, basket, right this is happening

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Speaker 4: all over THE. Nba Chauncey billups showed up In poland

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Speaker 4: to Watch Denny Obvidot LIKE i, mean you do not

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Speaker 4: have to be A lucadancic level player for your team

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Speaker 4: to come. Over it's just become what you do if

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Speaker 4: you're AN nba.

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Speaker 5: Team so that this photo to me is absolutely nothing.

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Speaker 5: Nothing and by the.

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Speaker 4: Way this whole idea That lebron is jealous Of, luca

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Speaker 4: it's just not. True, Okay lebron really Likes luka Dancc

874
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 4: luca has always Shown lebron great. Deference luca has been

875
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 4: very clear he modeled his entire game After Lebron. James

876
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 4: the two of them get along just. Fine and in,

877
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 4: fact When lebron's Agent Rich paul put out that statement

878
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 4: in the middle of summer that got everybody all crazy

879
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 4: where he, said, Oh lebron has to take care of

880
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 4: his future even though The lakers are taking care of

881
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 4: their future and all that. Stuff Rich paul actually Called

882
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 4: Luka doncas's people before he even called The lakers to, say,

883
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,479
Speaker 4: hey this has nothing to do with. You so that's

884
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 4: the degree to which The lebron camp is. Okay with

885
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,439
Speaker 4: The luca, camp everything's. Fine There where the issue comes,

886
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 4: in and you mentioned it is the contract.

887
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 5: Extension that's what all of this is. About that's what the.

888
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 4: Coming welcome home had on social, media and this In

889
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 4: cleveland And i'm at the practice court at The clippers

890
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 4: And i'm here in my old house And akron and

891
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 4: all of. That that is a reaction to the fact

892
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 4: that The lakers have decided they do not want to

893
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 4: extend his contract past this. Season, understandable and their reasoning

894
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 4: is we have a player now who is a generational,

895
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 4: superstar not yet A lebron level, superstar by the, way

896
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,800
Speaker 4: but nobody is, yet, Right there's no one else in

897
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 4: THE nba who is A lebron level Yet.

898
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 5: Luca is one of the next best.

899
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 4: Teaker gets, there, Right so they Have Luka doncic who

900
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 4: is fifteen years younger Than, lebron and they have to

901
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 4: worry about his next three or four. Years so first

902
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 4: worry about that was will he re sign with?

903
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 5: Us because he could.

904
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 6: Have left this.

905
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 4: Summer so that dinner that you're talking about That lebron

906
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 4: quote wasn't invited. To he wasn't invited because that was

907
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 4: a recruiting dinner For Luka. Doncic BUT i had that

908
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 4: Was Rob blanka brought a binder to that interview to

909
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 4: DISCUSS i.

910
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 2: Mean to that.

911
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 5: Dinner he brought a binder to.

912
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 4: Dinner and the whole point was here's what we plan to,

913
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 4: Do here's how we want to use, you all of

914
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 4: that kind of.

915
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 5: Stuff that's what that dinner.

916
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 3: Was now do you think at that Dinner luca at

917
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 3: any point, said, YEAH i don't see a lot Of lebron.

918
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,919
Speaker 3: Here what's the game plan for the greatest player IN nba.

919
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 5: HISTORY i do not think he did.

920
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 4: THAT i think That Lebron james doesn't understand why for

921
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 4: the first time in his, career he has to play

922
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 4: out the final year of his. Contract he doesn't understand

923
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 4: why he's An ALL nba level player and he's being left.

924
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 4: Hanging and by the, way he has a real point.

925
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 5: There but The.

926
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 4: Lakers have a point that they need to keep their

927
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 4: cap sheet clear past next year to find a, younger

928
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 4: big time major star to pair With luca for the foreseeable,

929
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 4: future as opposed to giving fifty million dollars to a

930
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 4: then forty.

931
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 5: Two years Old, no not that. All it all makes

932
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 5: sense on both. Sides no one's wrong.

933
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 3: Here it's just it's like it's, complicated if that makes,

934
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 3: sense because remember The lakers Needed lebron what they did

935
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,240
Speaker 3: With kobe at the, end they were a. Disaster lebron

936
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 3: pulled them out of the, wilderness brought him a, title

937
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 3: and now they're not really showing him the.

938
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 5: Love no. Knitting no Knitting jason did in write him

939
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 5: to knit final hour the drama In.

940
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 3: Dallas of, course they continue