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It's one fourteen am at the California 0:01:47.920 --> 0:02:01.160 Club and you're listening tonight Call Hello, and welcome Tonight Call, 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:05.640 a call in show for our dystopian reality. I am 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:08.600 your host, Molly Lambert, and with me, as always, are 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:13.080 Test Lynch and Emily O'sheia. We are officially out of 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:16.600 y to May and are starting our new theme month 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:20.840 ramble and gamble in June, we survived. Why to May, 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:26.160 nothing happened, Everything happened. Yeah, Yeah, I feel did we 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:30.440 conjure more end of the world with our May month? 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:34.320 Probably it's always our fault. It was our fault, for sure. 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:38.200 I think we should blame ourselves. Yeah, we know, it's 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:40.920 been a really rough week and there's just been you know, 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:44.720 even somehow there's each week keeps topping itself with horrible news. 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:48.040 This week is definitely no exception. And you know, we 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:51.440 just want to say fuk the police, and we stand 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:55.240 with everybody in Minneapolis, and we want to do a 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:58.080 little bit of escapism still for you for our listeners. 0:02:58.160 --> 0:02:59.600 So but we just want to know that we're thinking 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:02.960 of everybody be out there. So yeah, yeah, And if 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:05.560 escapism is not what you want right now, we also 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:09.959 totally understand. Yes, we will be here at nightcall talking 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:13.880 about gambling all month, but don't be afraid to call 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:18.320 in about other subjects UM or you know, vent vent 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:24.000 personal feelings about UM being under quarantine during the civil 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:27.720 rights crisis. Yeah, and also if you want to write 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:29.919 in with stuff like that or give us a call, Um, 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:33.040 we always honor people's anonymity if they want, so, just 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:34.839 let us know if you would like to be anonymous. 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:38.680 But we're we're here to lend an ear and uh yeah, 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:41.720 we're we're sending support to everybody out there. It's uh, 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:44.920 it's it's hard to talk about gambling right now, but 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:48.760 we will anyway. So we are doing a whole month 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:55.920 on gambling casinos Vegas and other gambling cities. And I 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:58.160 feel like we're going to talk about a lot about 0:03:58.200 --> 0:04:03.320 the American dream this month, ye like much like Spring 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:07.840 Break month. Also, I just feel like we might solve 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:11.360 the conundrum of the American dream over the next five weeks. 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:15.840 So just you know, be ready for You're welcome. My 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:20.040 father always says that Las Vegas should be the capital 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:24.839 of the United States of America. Oh yeah, no, I Um, 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:26.839 I was telling you guys, I went through a phase 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:29.080 of being wanting to be a kind of like self 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:31.960 taught scholar of Vegas history because I was trying to 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:35.520 write something about Vegas when I was in college. And um, 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:38.320 I think there's a book by a former l a 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:40.520 weekly columnis who's name I'm totally blanking on, but it's 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:44.160 called the Most Honest City in the world. And uh, 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:46.919 because it's the only one that doesn't lie about what 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:50.200 it insane crock America is it just it's all out 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:54.960 there on the surface. That's why it's the capital. Yep Um. 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:58.520 There's some really good Las Vegas books. There's a book 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:01.600 called The Green Felt Junk All that's like an original 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:04.920 like forties or fifties, like on the floor it must 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:08.440 be whenever Las Vegas was was actually founded, but it's 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:12.520 a in the casinos. In the world of casinos, Las 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:18.040 Vegas was founded long before the fifties. Yeah, Las Vegas 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:22.400 was a little like you know, watering town for it's insane. 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:24.839 The origins of Vegas World, We'll we'll get into that 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:27.000 more later. We're going to do a whole episode about 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:31.200 a Vegas specific episode, History of Vegas episode. But I 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:34.159 have a quick gambling question for you guys as we 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:38.039 begin our journey. What is the most you have ever 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:43.800 lost or one gamble? Oh no, not that much. It 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:45.880 always I mean, I've never had that much money to 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:49.680 put down Camblane. Yes, And if I have money, I 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:52.599 like to hold onto it. I have a very strict 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:56.040 twenty limit with gambling that I have observed. Always after 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:58.760 I had a U I watched a friend go and 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:02.120 have like a whole gambling addiction over the course of 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:05.599 twenty four hours in a casino. Yeah, it was just 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:08.279 really I was like, okay, twenty dollar limit for the 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:11.720 rest of my life. But I did win two bucks once. 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:18.640 I won like three fifty ones at Morongo Casinos, which 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:21.880 was like very exciting for me. But I think I 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:24.640 lost the most actually the most recent time I gambled, 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:27.760 which was in Atlantic City with the Blank Check Boys, 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:31.719 and I mean I was maybe just It was also 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:34.160 the first time I live I did live poker um, 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:37.760 which will definitely get into this week more, but uh it. 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:40.360 And there was something about the extra high of that 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:43.120 that I think just inspired me to just keep pouring 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:45.160 money into because I was like, this is fun, this 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:46.800 is fun. I'm every fun. And then it was like, 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:49.719 oh ship, I've lost like two order bucks um, which 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:53.440 is like against such small potatoes for like big time gamblers. 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:55.640 I'm sure everybody's like rolling their eyes at us who 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:58.120 gamble at all, but like for me, that was a 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:01.880 lot of funny. Um. I really want to play pachinko. 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:04.520 I feel like that would be, um the thing that 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:06.839 would make me give all my money away to a 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:11.840 machine because I love pinball, sure, and when I don't 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:14.920 love that, like I would rather give all my quarters 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:18.320 to a pinball machine and then pay for the experience 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:21.920 of playing pinball then just for a slot machine, because 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:24.040 it's like not that fun to do a slot machine. 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:26.760 The last time I went to Las Vegas, I definitely 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:29.400 lost the most I ever have, but it was probably 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:33.280 still about like a hundred bucks, maybe like sixty bucks 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:36.760 on one game of poker because I was like betting 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:40.160 only really low stakes things. Was that I was doing 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:42.240 the whole time, and what I've always done is just 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:44.680 like the really cheap slots, and so I was like, Okay, 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:48.600 I'm gonna do one expensive game. I like watch the 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:52.120 blackjack table for a while and I was like, uh, 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:54.640 maybe I'll just go do a machine. So I did 0:07:54.640 --> 0:08:00.720 like an expensive poker machine and just lost immediately. Machines 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:04.160 it's just like no bad vibes. I don't know if 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:06.520 they just like use bad luck for me. That The 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:08.680 thing is also like being a gambler, even if you're 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:12.400 not superstitious, will bring out your inner superstitious freak. Yeah, 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:14.880 I was trying to like lean into it. More because 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:17.080 I was like, I'm in Las Vegas, I should like 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:20.600 gamble and have a drink because I'm not a big drinker, 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:23.160 you know. So I got a tequila Sunrise and it 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:28.280 was amazing and uh yeah, but then I was like, 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:31.119 it doesn't feel good to lose money. It is not fun. 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:35.079 It's not fun at all. Money. Do you guys have 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:40.560 favorite games or I like black jack? Black Jack is 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:44.199 like the perfect length for my attention span. Yeah, pokers 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:48.480 too long. I I won the two fifty dollars on 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:50.560 it was like a single slot game. It was like, 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:52.800 you know, just within five minutes at the slots. And 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:54.959 then I was like I love slots, and I was like, 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:58.480 don't press my luck. But um as for gambling at home, 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:02.360 which one can do now, maybe should not. But I 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:05.120 got in the habit of getting either like a regular 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:08.440 lottery ticket or a scratcher, Like I limit myself to 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:10.800 one a week, but I still feel like so gross 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:15.440 about it. Somehow remember this coming out at one point 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:17.200 and I was just like, oh, we have to talk 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:20.680 about this. I had a brief brief scratchers period for 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:23.360 like one summer where I only get one at a time, 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:25.319 and I only get one a week, but it still 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:28.400 feels really like yucky somehow. But I remember when I 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:31.679 was a kid, for my birthday, my grandmother and aunt 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:33.840 would give me like five scratchers, and I would just 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:35.720 sit down and be like, wow, it's so crazy. They're 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:38.600 either giving you zero dollars or they're giving you like 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:42.199 millions of dollars, and usually they give you just enough 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:45.079 to buy another ticket. This is my experience. If you'd 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:47.280 buy like a three dollar ticket, you're gonna win it, 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:49.560 usually at least three dollars on it, and it's just 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:51.160 like do you want to go in and do it? 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:54.600 You're just going to get another one? Like my kid 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:57.560 and his friend I got a scratcher that I was 0:09:57.679 --> 0:09:59.760 I told them that they could like have the money 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:01.480 from and I think it was like I don't know, 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:03.960 like twenty five bucks or something, and they donated it 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:07.480 to charity, and then I felt so bad. I was like, Okay, great, 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:10.240 but like now I have to give you that money also, 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:12.720 like I'm matching you, because that's not in the spirit 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:15.040 of a scratcher. If you're supposed to pour it back 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:21.480 into the game, no good causes forget it. Um. I 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:23.400 had a really quick thing to mention though that I 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:25.480 thought was super interesting and we don't have to get 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:28.000 into it that much. But um, it's just very bizarre 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:32.439 that there is a restless leg syndrome and parkinson Parkinson's 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:35.720 medication called Rickquip. And then there's a few others that 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:39.960 have different brand names, UM their dopamine agon is, and 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:43.920 they actually can cause compulsive gambling disorders. It's a side 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:47.560 effect of the drug. UM, So there have been My 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:49.199 mom actually brought it to my attention. I was like, 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:51.640 we're doing gambling month and she was like, oh, you 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:54.840 have to just mention because if you look into it, 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:57.440 it's super crazy. It's like an overnight shift when you 0:10:57.440 --> 0:11:01.840 start taking the medication. These people be um, super addicted 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:04.560 to gambling. And then there was one woman who I 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:07.079 read about she stopped and then a week later was like, 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:10.240 I can't believe I was ever gambling. What the fuck? Um? 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:15.000 And it works because there it's basically like the dopamine receptor, 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:18.240 I think it's called the D three receptor causes like 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:21.720 motor problems like tremors um and it also is like 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:26.560 a dopamine center, so the dopamine agones can inhibit the 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:30.280 tremors by mimicking dopamine in the brain, but they're like 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:33.160 fiddling with the D three receptor, which is also the 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:37.480 reward system, so they make it a much more intensely 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:41.319 pleasurable experience. Um, when you're winning it gambling, if you're 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:44.320 having great sex, if you're eating delicious food or whatever, 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:48.199 so you become like physically incapable of quitting what you're doing. 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:52.600 Why isn't this like a big black market drug? Like 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:57.360 why aren't the kids doing this? I know they aren't. Yeah, 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:00.960 Like it sounds like such a sci fi movie president 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:03.960 at a premise, like it's a drug that just makes 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:07.319 everything that already feels good feel even better because everybody's 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:10.080 just like worn out their pleasure receptors and and just 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:13.800 eats more and more and more. Um. Well, yeah, it's 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:16.960 also a great screenplay idea, somebody free idea. I just 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:19.520 gave one atom, always given out free ideas. There's something 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:22.600 sort of like this in a series of cyberpunk novels 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:25.360 that are fake authored by William Shatner. Oh my God, 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:29.120 that I looked up recently because there was a joke 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:31.840 about them on The Simpsons on an old Simpsons What 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:34.439 are they called Tech War is a science fiction novel 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:38.359 written by William Shatner and uncredited science fiction author Ron Goulart. 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:41.480 It was first published by G. P. Putnam Sons in October. 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:46.440 It has nine in the series, spawning a comic book 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:48.880 and TV series, video game, in a TV movie. It's 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:51.040 called tech War, and tech is spelled t e K, 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:55.680 and tech is the drug spice in the Dune universe. 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:58.480 It's like and it's set in the twenty second century. 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:02.559 A former cop who is framed for dealing tech. Oh yeah, 0:13:02.640 --> 0:13:11.120 YOI okay, will Ever in the mood. Yeah, it just thought. 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:15.600 I thought something about the like fiftieth generation photocopied version 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:18.439 of a cyberpunk novel was funny. I think the thing 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:21.600 about the dopamine and the thing about you know, test 0:13:21.679 --> 0:13:24.319 your friend who kind of went through an entire arc 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:28.240 over you know, twenty four hours at a at a casino. 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:33.080 There is some way in which gambling just feels like 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:38.040 this microcosm again of just like the experience of living 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:41.760 in capitalism. It's like a way to do it all once, uh, 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:44.120 in a really intense way and in a short amount 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:48.760 of time, like do do the It's it's capitalism concentrate um, 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:52.880 and and the fact that it is uh, you know, 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:58.360 completely arbitrary and um, it doesn't really have anything. It's 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:03.080 it's not a meritocracy. I gambling is not necessarily a meritocracy. 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:06.800 There's some skill involved in some games, but not not overall. 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:12.160 And uh and yet people still will pour their lives 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:16.640 into it and often destroy their lives um because it 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:19.960 still feels like there's still this like kind of hope 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:24.520 and optimism at the base of every Every chance is 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:27.640 another chance to make back that money and more, which 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:31.000 is also yeah, what capitalism is all about. Draw your 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:34.680 money away, it'll come back to you. Yeah, I mean, 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:37.920 it's also it can be. It's the kind of thing 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:40.880 where it's like if people are along for the ride 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:44.400 and then someone gets really sucked in and starts to 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:48.480 show obvious signs of like struggling within it, it's a 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:51.120 very weird thing to see, how like you try to 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:53.200 take people along for the ride. And we'll be talking 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:55.840 about that later when we talk about California split. But 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:57.960 I mean, it's like this kind of thing where you 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:01.200 want to experience it with someone but by nature, like 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:03.680 this is an experience where you're going to be in 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:08.200 opposite emotional places. At least, it's not a like collective experience, 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:10.240 I guess in the way that you would hope it 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:13.520 would be. Um. Yeah, with my friend, she was walking 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:17.000 around at one point like whispering to like, you know, 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:20.080 the superstition and the kind of like feeling like you're 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:23.320 communing with like the whole casino. It was just really 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:27.640 scary to see. Uh, I don't know. It haunts me still. 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:30.480 And also I just also watched that Simpsons episode where 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:32.960 Marge becomes a gambling addict where they open a casino 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:38.080 and Marge goes through the whole cycle of gambling addiction. 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:41.200 Great episode, great March episode. Well should we take a 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:44.280 night call. Let's just do it. We got a bunch 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:47.800 and again. Send us your night calls night emails one 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:50.960 to four oh four six Night Night Call Podcast at 0:15:51.000 --> 0:15:53.760 gmail dot com. Tell us your gambling stories, tell us 0:15:53.800 --> 0:16:00.200 your vagus conspiracies. UH, give us everything you got about, uh, 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:05.600 the wonderful world of losing money for sport, for fun 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:08.680 and pleasure. We're going to take a quick break and 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:11.080 when we come back, we're going to take a night call. 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:27.600 So you gonna take this call from Haze. Sure, yeah, 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:29.440 let's do it. Let's do it, and I'd call this. 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:32.520 I just signed up for the Patreon I saw that 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:35.840 you were doing gambling episode. This is a very quick 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:39.880 gambling story. I used to work at a job where 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:45.560 we would get cut really early every day for some reason. Uh, 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:48.760 usually around like one or two pm, and like three 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:51.160 times a week, a lot of people from the job 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:54.840 and I would go to uh Commerce Casino because the 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:58.160 traffic was light in the afternoon. This is the big 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:01.920 casino by the to held the huge outlet mall down 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:07.600 the five in Commerce obviously UH. And every time we went, 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:10.480 maybe almost every time, but like pretty much every time 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:17.680 we went, Kato Kalin was there. That's all. I love 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:21.520 this night call. Thank you, great call from his friend 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:25.679 of the pod uh from Hollywood Handbook and also the 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:29.080 l a podcast which I just went on a bonus episode. 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:33.880 There's to talk about Magnolia. Check out both check him out. 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:38.000 UM Commerce Casino is the bleakest and that is why 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:42.879 it is the truest casino. Have you been? No? But 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:46.400 I love it. But how do you know you love it? 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:50.919 Because everyone I know who goes there, like only has 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:54.479 incredibly dark stories about it um and it was a 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:59.280 major plot point on True Detective season two. Right. Oh, yes, 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:02.200 of course I'm obsessed with like the City of Commerce 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:04.480 in the City of Industry because their names are the 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:08.760 fucking City of Commerce and Industry. Yeah, I mean I'm 0:18:08.760 --> 0:18:11.680 obsessed at the Citadel. Yeah. I just heard a news 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:15.800 story yesterday about how they are reopening the Citadels. Such 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:19.439 a bad idea. Do you guys have a favorite Southern 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:24.639 California Greater Los Angeles area casino or because I have 0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:28.160 never really been to any other than Morongo, which I've 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:32.480 been to multiple times. Um. I ate at the restaurant 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:35.359 at the top of Morongo when I won that money there, 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:37.720 because I was like, what high rollers, We're gonna get 0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:43.200 us stake at Morongo Casino. No, I mean not really. 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:47.720 I've done more video gambling in New Orleans where they 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:51.960 have it everywhere, but I haven't been to the Hustler casino. 0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:55.400 I have not been to Hollywood Circle. I would love 0:18:55.440 --> 0:18:57.840 to go to Hollywood Park. I used to work by 0:18:58.119 --> 0:19:01.439 Hollywood Park and my coworkers and I we kind of 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:03.440 had a similar thing where we got off work early 0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:05.719 because we were on this East Coast time schedule. So 0:19:05.720 --> 0:19:07.480 we would always be off at like three, and it 0:19:07.560 --> 0:19:09.040 was always this idea like We're going to go to 0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:12.000 the racetrack one of these days, and then never did it. 0:19:12.080 --> 0:19:14.639 I would still like to go. Yeah, I love Hollywood 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:17.600 Park again, just like as a place that there were 0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:21.400 ads for that. I was like, oh, seems glamorous not 0:19:21.480 --> 0:19:23.960 to be a horrible person in a skuld but I 0:19:24.280 --> 0:19:26.760 mean not, I'm I'm being a good person, but I'm 0:19:26.760 --> 0:19:32.119 being a horrible skuld. Well yeah, as a friend of ponies, 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:35.480 I can't deal with the racing like I can. I cannot. 0:19:35.920 --> 0:19:38.560 It makes me It's it just feels like it's so 0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:42.080 cruel and like unnecessed. And I keep being like, couldn't 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:44.879 we have as much fun with like a snail race 0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:49.320 and they just crawling? Can't we can't we just like 0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:53.240 invertebrates and like maybe also we take better care of that. 0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:57.560 There's a turtle race and Marvista exactly. The turtle race 0:19:57.680 --> 0:20:01.280 is horrible. Yeah, I know, turtle race all animal racist 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:04.000 that like, listen, we I think we need to maybe 0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:07.520 have like a like a may Back music type tag 0:20:07.560 --> 0:20:10.240 over all of rambling gamble in June. That's like this 0:20:10.400 --> 0:20:13.480 ship is evil. Like everything we're talking about is evil. 0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:21.680 Uh except scratchers. Uh yeah, I mean sure they fund 0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:25.400 our schools or whatever, but that shouldn't be that is autem. 0:20:27.000 --> 0:20:29.639 It's all the trap. I think. Also, Hollywood Park is 0:20:29.680 --> 0:20:32.800 one of those things where, like the idea of it 0:20:32.840 --> 0:20:35.280 was fun, but I'm sure if we had gone there, 0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:38.679 we would have been like, this is so depressing. Totally. Yeah, 0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:41.320 I mean that's the thing. We'll talk about this more 0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:45.160 later later in the California split section of the episode. 0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:47.800 But I think a lot of a lot of gambling, 0:20:47.880 --> 0:20:51.080 even even if you're in some places in Vegas, but 0:20:51.200 --> 0:20:54.200 like especially if you're gambling outside of like a resort town, 0:20:55.080 --> 0:20:57.840 the veil comes down pretty quickly and you see it 0:20:57.880 --> 0:21:00.280 for what it is, and you know, but you see 0:21:00.280 --> 0:21:02.639 it for what it is if you're not addicted to gambling, 0:21:03.280 --> 0:21:06.600 you know, like if you're outside of that bubble, then 0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:09.760 the depressing factor becomes apparent pretty quickly. Like if you're 0:21:09.800 --> 0:21:13.240 on a reservation casino in Washington State or something like that's, 0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:16.840 you know, it's a different scene. It's not going to 0:21:16.920 --> 0:21:19.680 Vegas with your girlfriends and having fun and playing slots 0:21:19.720 --> 0:21:22.880 and getting free drinks. It's like a very different vibe. Well, 0:21:22.960 --> 0:21:26.400 speaking of that, we actually have a night call about 0:21:26.480 --> 0:21:30.320 a pretty bummer of a trip that someone took to 0:21:30.960 --> 0:21:35.040 the Silver Legacy Casino. Should we take that? Yes, my 0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:39.480 name's Utah. I've never listened to your podcasts. I just 0:21:39.560 --> 0:21:43.240 kind of stumbled into Twitter drunk in the middle of 0:21:43.240 --> 0:21:46.800 the night a couple of months ago and somehow came 0:21:46.840 --> 0:21:51.119 across this. But my story is basically that a friend 0:21:51.119 --> 0:21:56.760 of mine who lives in Oakland, UM, came down to 0:21:56.880 --> 0:22:00.680 l A. And we drove from l A to Wyoming 0:22:00.760 --> 0:22:02.920 and on the way spent the night and we know 0:22:04.280 --> 0:22:08.040 and stay at the Silver Legacy Casino, in which I've 0:22:08.080 --> 0:22:11.359 gone back too since then. And it's just the most 0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:13.760 horrible casino you've ever seen in your life. The middle 0:22:13.800 --> 0:22:19.600 of it is a gigantic like Neon electrified oil rig 0:22:20.640 --> 0:22:24.560 that is the most terrifying thing you've ever seen. On 0:22:24.640 --> 0:22:27.199 top of it was just completely dead the way you 0:22:27.240 --> 0:22:31.080 want a horrible casino to be. Uh. And we spent 0:22:31.160 --> 0:22:35.159 all night gambling getting wasted, uh, and then woke up 0:22:35.200 --> 0:22:40.000 the next day, um, and we're walking out of the 0:22:40.040 --> 0:22:45.119 hotel with our bags that are you know, of course 0:22:45.200 --> 0:22:48.159 filled the drugs because we're on our way to go 0:22:48.280 --> 0:22:53.760 see a once in a lifetime it clicks in Wyoming, Um, 0:22:53.840 --> 0:22:57.480 and it happens to be the day that Trump is 0:22:57.520 --> 0:23:01.600 having a rally or something in Reno, and there's two 0:23:01.640 --> 0:23:06.080 cops just posted up by the elevators. When you come 0:23:06.119 --> 0:23:11.080 out of your room with drug dogs, I guess you're 0:23:11.080 --> 0:23:13.960 looking for bombs, probably not really looking for drugs. But 0:23:14.080 --> 0:23:18.760 we were so hungover and paranoid that we both walked 0:23:18.800 --> 0:23:22.080 out of there like we were two by fours or something, 0:23:22.200 --> 0:23:26.320 just so stiff. Uh. And then we got out and 0:23:26.400 --> 0:23:31.320 I just remember like completely having one of those hangover 0:23:31.440 --> 0:23:36.119