1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Tutor Dixon podcast and today 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: we're talking all things Royal family. It's just kind of 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: going to be a an entire gossip episode because we 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 1: have Kinsey Schofield with us. She's a royal reporter and 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: the host of her own podcast, Kinsey Schofield Unfiltered. Thank 6 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: you so much for being here. 7 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 2: You know, I also think that it's a little bit 8 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 2: of history too. It's not just true. You know, we're 9 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 2: going to educate the people, No, I do. 10 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: I want to get into some of the details with 11 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 1: all of this stuff happening, with the titles being lost 12 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: and all that. I do want to get into what 13 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 1: that all means for the whole uh, you know, princeon 14 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: and his family and or do we even call him 15 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: Prince Andrew anymore? I don't know, but I want to 16 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: get into all of that. But I think if we 17 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: don't talk about Megan first, because Meghan is every little 18 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: American girl's dream gone completely wrong. 19 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 3: I know, a Hallmark act just turned actual princess. It's 20 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 3: you know, you couldn't even make it up. And I 21 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 3: you know, I don't know where you were on the spectrum, 22 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 3: but I loved her and I could not, you know, 23 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 3: I wanted to be her. I was like, Wow, what 24 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 3: an incredible opportunity. You are a hard working person and 25 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 3: you get in front of, you know, a prince and 26 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 3: he's smitten with you. 27 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 2: And then it all went to hades. 28 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 3: I mean, I was so disappointed to see them step 29 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 3: down as working members of the British royal family. And 30 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 3: they could have come to the United States and been loved, quietly, 31 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 3: worked the charity circuits and made great you know, established 32 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 3: great relationships and connections, and I don't know, ten twenty 33 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 3: years decided that they were going to control the narrative 34 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 3: and tell all of these secrets. And Princess Diana survived 35 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 3: the royal family for sixteen years before the divorce and 36 00:01:55,800 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 3: before really she started to tell her secrets. And when 37 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 3: it came to Harry and Meghan, they immediately come over 38 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 3: to the States. And I think race bait in the 39 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 3: midst of really difficult about time. There's so much that 40 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 3: I culturally, yeah, and I think that in America we 41 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 3: applaud winners, we applaud self made people, and we don't 42 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 3: want to, you know, celebrate victimhood. And I think that 43 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 3: that's a huge mistake that they made right off the bat. 44 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: But we also have this, I mean, Americans have a 45 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: soft spot for the Royal family. Regardless of our split, 46 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: there is still some romantic feelings about the Royal family. 47 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: We all watched the weddings. We were very we love Diana, 48 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: we are all very involved in this, so we did 49 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: watch and I do think that there was a moment 50 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: when we went, oh, my gosh, you could actually grow 51 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: up to be a princess. This is I mean, there 52 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 1: are literally movies on Netflix all the time about this, 53 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: which apparently also has Meghan Markele stuff on it that 54 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: is clearly not this because she abandoned them. But what 55 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: I understand I just read this story was that when 56 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: they sent them to Frogmore Cottage, when they were like 57 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: this is where you're going to live, Megan kind of 58 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: freaked out, like, I'm not a rural person. I lived 59 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 1: in La I want to live in the city. I'm 60 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: not doing this. This is not good for me. I mean, 61 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: could it have just been that? 62 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 2: Really? 63 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: Is that so horrible to live in a cottage, a 64 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: royal cottage. 65 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 3: This summer I got to see that area. I was taken, 66 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 3: you know, back where I'm not supposed to be by 67 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 3: someone that had permission to be there. I had permission 68 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 3: to be there because I was a guest, and I 69 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 3: could not believe that she left that life. It's fields 70 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 3: and fields of horses running wild, and beautiful flowers and trees, 71 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 3: and it is an escape and it is rural. But 72 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 3: if you are two people that claim to want privacy, 73 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 3: how can we that there is no one near you? 74 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 3: It's in the sweetest little tone of windsor it's like 75 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 3: this tiny village that would be you would imagine a 76 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 3: Disney movie, would you know, copy and paste it was, which. 77 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: Seems like it would go along well with her show 78 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: With Love Megan Holiday Celebration. She has this new I 79 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: just watched the trailer for this with Love Megan Holiday 80 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: Celebration show on Netflix, and that was like, let me 81 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: take you through my house and let me take you 82 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: through my yard. And I don't know if it's actually 83 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 1: her yard or her house, because I think there was 84 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 1: some scandal where she was like, this is how we 85 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: live and it's not because that seems to. 86 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 2: Be who she is. 87 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: But if her whole persona is I have this like 88 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: countryside living. She actually hated that. 89 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, exactly. 90 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, she, I mean she is a contradiction in so 91 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 3: many different ways. You know, there's the scene in the 92 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 3: Netflix series where she dramatically curtsies and is kind of 93 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 3: the vibe is that how silly that she has to 94 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 3: curtsey to Queen Elizabeth, and she's very dramatic about it, 95 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 3: and Harry's face is just absolutely miserable. 96 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 2: But then she asks the house. 97 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 3: Manager in New York to announce her as the Duchess 98 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 3: of Sussex as the Harper's Bizarre journalist enters the room. 99 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 3: You know, she wants to be formally announced with her title. 100 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 2: When was that? 101 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 3: That was when Harry and Megan accepted their Humanitarians of 102 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 3: the Year award. I believe that was in October. If 103 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 3: it's not in October, it's in September. 104 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: So this year they still have those titles. I mean, 105 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 1: is she still considered that she is? 106 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 3: I mean, I would say temporarily. I mean, I'm pretty confident, 107 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 3: you know, and my sources do say that Prince William, 108 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 3: once he becomes king, is going to strip them all 109 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 3: and it's less about vengeance and more about it's easier 110 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 3: to control the royal family brand if you don't have 111 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 3: all of these people all over the world that are 112 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 3: monetizing it, or you know, there's the cash for access 113 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 3: scandals that we saw Andrew and Fergie experience and participate in. 114 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 3: I should say, but she's not allowed per the Sandringham Agreement, 115 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 3: which was the mexit agreement, to monetize her title to 116 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 3: to She's not allowed to utilize her proximity to the 117 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 3: British royal family to fatten her pockets. But you know, 118 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 3: if you're on the cover of Harper's Bizarre shilling jam 119 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 3: how is that not a conflict with that agreement? So 120 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 3: you know, she sent Jamie kern Lima a basket of 121 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 3: goodies and in that basket she signs it HRH you 122 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 3: know Megan Duchess of Sussex. Well, Jamie in turn posts 123 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 3: it on Instagram influencer style, you know, marketing, digital marketing, 124 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 3: and they are in turn promoting her products. So I 125 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 3: see multiple violations of the Sandringham Agreement. And the only 126 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 3: reason they were able to keep certain perks like the 127 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 3: title was because they told the Queen that we won't 128 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 3: utilize them and we won't do anything that embarrasses the family. 129 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 3: I mean, I could come up with a million things 130 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 3: that they've done that have embarrassed the family Since then, 131 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 3: you know, Harry talking about William's baldness and his book 132 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 3: which was totally unnecessary, and I mean. 133 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: The whole book. 134 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, Dodger, Todger let me. 135 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: I'm curious about the book because I haven't read the 136 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: book because I think it's one of those things where 137 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I should read the book just so that 138 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: I can talk about it. But it is it seems 139 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: very personal to us that we are embarrassing to us 140 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: that somehow an American went over and destroyed what we 141 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: had watched. We've watched these kids grow up, we watched 142 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: them go through horrible tragedy. They feel like fixtures in 143 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: our homes, you know, like we feel like we get 144 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: to know them. How did she, I'm assuming it's her. 145 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: How did he get convinced to write this tell all book? 146 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a You're not coming home, I'm 147 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: done kind of. 148 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 3: I don't think he's that bright. I don't think he 149 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 3: realized that. I mean, how could that be, Prince Andrew, 150 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 3: I mean, look at how I think he is that dumb. 151 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 3: But he says and this might have been a rare 152 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 3: honest moment in the Oprah Winfrey sit down that he 153 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 3: was so strapped for cash because his father cut him 154 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 3: off as a forty year old man, that he had 155 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 3: to sign these deals with Spotify, he had to sign 156 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 3: these deals with Netflix, and you know, I include Penguin 157 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 3: Random House in that because it was around the same 158 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 3: time that he signs the book deal. I do think 159 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 3: that he was looking for a quick payday, and I 160 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 3: also think he was incredibly bitter that things didn't turn 161 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 3: out the way that they wanted them to. You know, 162 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 3: I've they recently hinted it going back to Australia, so 163 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 3: I've been looking back into their official royal engagements in Australia. 164 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 3: And Tom Bauer, an incredible investigative author, writes that in 165 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 3: twenty eighteen when they went to Australia, they saw their popularity. 166 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 2: You know, in a new light, and. 167 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 3: Diana was incredibly popular in Australia. So Meghan starts to 168 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 3: compare herself to Princess Diana, and that's really when they 169 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 3: decide that there's going to be a shift and that 170 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 3: they do not want to be you know, they don't 171 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 3: want to have to walk behind Prince William and Catherine, 172 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 3: Princess of Wales, they bring more to the table, and 173 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 3: that's when they start to develop these lists of demands, 174 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 3: which ultimately like, it's so funny that we're all watching 175 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 3: this Christmas trailer and preparing for this Christmas special. When 176 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 3: it's Christmas time, when Meghan and Harry go off to 177 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 3: Canada and start to plot this, well, what they wanted 178 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 3: to do was half in, half out. But what we 179 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 3: realize is Meghan is so destructive, and Meghan is breaking 180 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 3: this family apart during the holidays that she's now trying 181 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 3: to hijack as her own. And you're like, no, actually, 182 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 3: during Christmas, you're doing whatever the opposite is of, you know, 183 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 3: everybody around the table, snuggling with each other and loving 184 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 3: on each other. But the Royal family said, you're not 185 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:15,599 Speaker 3: going to do half in, half out. You know, it 186 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 3: doesn't matter how popular you are. It's not about us. 187 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 3: It's about the institution in general. And we're not here 188 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 3: to promote ourselves. We're here to promote great causes, great charities, 189 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 3: other people that are making a difference in the world. 190 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 3: And there was a real clash there, and you know, 191 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 3: I think that they thought that their popularity would shield them. 192 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 2: I think that. 193 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 3: We even see that sometimes and their behavior here in 194 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 3: the States. 195 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: I don't understand why they are still considered popular. I 196 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: find her abhorrent. I mean, I think that she destroyed 197 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: an institution that we all love very much. We look 198 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 1: at this family broken apart. These boys already lost their 199 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 1: mom in such a tragic way. Now William is by himself. 200 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: They were so we What we had seen was that 201 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: they were very close. Was it true that they were 202 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: very close as brothers? 203 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 3: They were so close, and Harry tries to rewrite history 204 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 3: a little bit in his book when he talks about 205 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 3: how he felt like the third wheel and he didn't 206 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 3: feel included. They went out of their way to include him. 207 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 3: There's a really beautiful story about Harry coming back from Afghanistan. 208 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 3: I believe it was Australian media that leaked where he was, 209 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 3: that he was in a war zone. And you know, 210 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 3: I don't know if Australia didn't get the memo, but 211 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 3: I mean, everybody was purposely not reporting this to protect him. 212 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 2: And so he has to come back. 213 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 3: He's completely defeated that he's been pulled, you know, from combat. 214 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 3: And William is in the room as he's taking questions 215 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 3: from journalists, and Harry's really mad at the journalists because 216 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 3: he knows one of them leaked where he was and 217 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 3: jeopardized his safety. And now he's a home and he 218 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 3: can't do what he wants to do with just fight. 219 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 3: And William actually inserts himself and pulls Harry out of 220 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 3: the interview because he can tell he's getting frustrated. You know, 221 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 3: William has protected Harry his entire life. I will say 222 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 3: I think that the Palace created Harry as a character. 223 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 3: I think that they did a great job in branding 224 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 3: him as something that he's not. I don't think that 225 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 3: he's this courageous, brave, strong, resilient individual, because that's not 226 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 3: who we've seen in the last five years. We've seen 227 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 3: a very weak man who's been led around by his wife, 228 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 3: who is a perpetual victim, and you know, rarely is 229 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 3: thankful for the position he's been given. I mean, he's 230 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 3: America's favorite noble baby. 231 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: That's what is I think the most shocking about what 232 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 1: we've seen him coming here and writing Spare and being 233 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: the victim. Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue 234 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: next on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. To be honest, like 235 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: when you go back when I was growing up watching Diana, 236 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: I was amazed by her. She seemed like she had 237 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: it was like that it factor. People were drawn to her. 238 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: She was able to go anywhere. She was very popular. 239 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: But if you watch the videos of her, she's very awkward, 240 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: she's very depressed, and she's very much a victim. And 241 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 1: he is very much like that. 242 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, shy die, you know, she's like looking away. Yeah, 243 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 3: I mean, I think I would truly believe that Prince 244 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 3: William inherited her greatest qualities. He has a very fun 245 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 3: sense of humor. I when the last time I was 246 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 3: around him up Cloaks in Personal I had been on 247 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 3: Harry Watch for two years, and I was so surprised 248 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 3: at how animated and silly and fun Prince William was. 249 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 2: It almost knocked me off my feet. 250 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 3: He was so silly and had so much personality, and 251 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 3: was talking about how he couldn't take Catherine anyway because 252 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 3: she was always the last, you know, to She was deep, deep, 253 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 3: deep in the line, talking to people, heavily involved in conversations, 254 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 3: and he's like, we got to get the ball rolling. 255 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 3: And then he said his favorite emoji was the eggplant, 256 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 3: which you know, I'm sure you're keen to one. We 257 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 3: think that we associate the eggplant with and so, I mean, 258 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 3: I was really surprised at how sweet, fun and charismatic 259 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 3: Prince William was, and I do attribute that to Princess Diana. 260 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 2: And with Harry. 261 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 3: He's paranoid, he's angry, he is unrealistic. He lives, you know, 262 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 3: in a delusional fantasy world. And it does feel like 263 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 3: without considering the consequences of everything that happened to Diana, 264 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 3: they've looked at her playbook. I'm listening to Diana Rama 265 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 3: right now, which is about the BBC's horrible deception and 266 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 3: how they secured her Panorama interview and ultimately, I mean, 267 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 3: I'm co and saying it led to her death because 268 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 3: she was They lie about people spying on her to 269 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 3: secure the interview, like to ingratiate themselves. Diana, all these people. 270 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 3: I have proof that these people are spying on you. 271 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 3: This is Martin Basher from the BBC. 272 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 2: This. 273 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 3: You know, Prince William has spoken out about how horrible, 274 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 3: this horribly this affected his life, this this deception, and 275 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 3: so Diana fires her the Royal Protection team that's been 276 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 3: protecting her, and you know a few years later, she 277 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 3: dies in a Paris tunnel because she doesn't have royal 278 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 3: protection there, confirming that everything's this, this scenario she's in 279 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 3: is an appropriate scenario. And so I see a lot 280 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 3: of Prince Harry copying some of her playbook. The Panorama 281 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 3: interview that some say led to the death of Diana. 282 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 2: That's the Oprah Winfrey interview. 283 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 3: You know, Spare is Diana her true story written by 284 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 3: Andrew Morton, but we now know Diana was. 285 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 2: The lead contributor to that book. 286 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 3: And I think that they just do a lot of 287 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 3: the same things Diana did. We even see it in 288 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 3: Megan's cosplaying of her outfits in her posess. 289 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: This creepy thing where she dresses like her too. 290 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 3: She absolutely does, but they don't consider what the consequences were. 291 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 3: That Panorama interview destroyed Diana's relationship with Prince William. 292 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 2: He was devastated by it. 293 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 3: She was stripped of multiple royal perks after that interview. 294 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: You know. 295 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 3: So to your point that Harry, did Harry really write 296 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 3: Spare thinking that everything would be fine? I think he did, 297 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 3: because you know, he watched his mother do similar things. 298 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: So there is a long standing, Like I feel like 299 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: there's a long standing I don't know how to say it. 300 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: Moronic men in the royal family situation. I mean you 301 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: have or men that are led astray by women too. 302 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 1: I mean you look at Queen Elizabeth, the man who 303 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: was meant to have the throne, her uncle abdicated because 304 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: of an American woman. So he gets to in his life. 305 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: Really she was also a challenge and his life didn't 306 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: end up so great. And then you've got Andrew. Andrew 307 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: has always been a total disaster. And when you talked 308 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: about William wanting to take away these royal titles, he's 309 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: looking at some of the other from what I understand, 310 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: you'll know this better than me, but he's looking at 311 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: some of these other countries that they've done this where 312 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: they've kind of limited the amount of royal titles you 313 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:45,360 Speaker 1: can have because you're essentially limiting scandal and you've had 314 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: to take away the royal title. What happens to Andrew 315 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 1: Now he's had his titles stripped, he's had his privileges stripped. 316 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: I don't know what that means, but is he just 317 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: is he broke What happens to him. 318 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 2: I mean, he's not broke. 319 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 3: He has a significant amount of money, and he he 320 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 3: had this thing called Pitch of the Palace where he 321 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 3: would connect entrepreneurs with investors. And it's my understanding that 322 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 3: there is a company I believe in Japan that want 323 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 3: to do something similar or utilize just utilize his contacts. 324 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 2: They'll pay him for his contacts. 325 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 3: That was the last time I heard of any sort 326 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 3: of business venture with Prince Andrew. 327 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 2: What will he do now? 328 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:32,360 Speaker 3: For the royal family's sake, He'll disappear to Sandering him, 329 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 3: He'll live on in one of the homes on the 330 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 3: estate and we'll never hear or see from him again. 331 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 3: I'm under the impression that Fergie will write a book. 332 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 3: I don't know what is left to say. And I also, 333 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 3: you know, I think that we'll be promised a lot, 334 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 3: but she won't deliver a lot because I don't think 335 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 3: she wants to jeopardize the future for her daughters, who 336 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 3: King Charles does love, Beatrice and Eugenie, the princesses who 337 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 3: still have their titles. So I mean, the best case 338 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 3: scenario would be that Andrew would just up and disappear. 339 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 3: And I always like feel obligated to say. He says 340 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 3: he's innocent of everything. It's a little odd that he 341 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 3: would pay somebody twelve million pounds that he never met, 342 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 3: or would allow his mother. 343 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 2: To cut that check. 344 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 3: But it truly is in the court of public opinion 345 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 3: guilt by association when it comes to some of those emails, 346 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 3: and when it comes to the photographs of him and 347 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 3: Jeffrey Epstein walking around Central Park. I just think he 348 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 3: needs to go away because people resent the site of him. 349 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 3: But like you said, he's not always He's not ever 350 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 3: been known as a nice guy. 351 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 2: He's not ever really been known as post randy Andy. 352 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 3: When he came back from the Falklands, you know, he 353 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 3: developed a pretty bad reputation for being rude to staff, 354 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 3: rude to people, and being an ungrateful, arrogant man. 355 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,479 Speaker 1: Well, Charles sort of has a reputation for being a 356 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 1: little bit arrogant or very arrogant, and maybe not rude, 357 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 1: but very arrogant and kind of like unaware of the 358 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: people around him, which I've heard that he is. You know, 359 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: he's very demanding, he wants things a certain way, like 360 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: he has a very different personality from his mother from 361 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: what I understand, and William is a little bit more 362 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: like his grandmother. Is that true? 363 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 3: I think William, when it comes to wanting things, his 364 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 3: way is very much like his father, which is sometimes 365 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 3: why they clash. I mean, a post cancer King Charles 366 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 3: is a much different Charles than I think Americans are 367 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 3: familiar with, and we are for some reason, we love 368 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 3: Princess Diana over here. I mean, I'm not saying that 369 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 3: there's anything wrong with that. I love Diana. That's how 370 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 3: I launched my royal career covering Diana. So I love 371 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 3: Diana too. But I do think that we fixate on 372 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 3: the Diana years of the king's life. And I mean 373 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 3: I met him three weeks ago and he was incredibly 374 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 3: gentle and so and worried about what we were saying 375 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 3: in the States, and I was. 376 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 2: Like, don't worry, we love you. But yeah, I understand 377 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 2: what you're saying. 378 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 3: It is hard to not associate him with the rejection 379 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 3: and pain and devastation of the Diana divorce, and in 380 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 3: fixating on that, I think that it's harder to sympathize 381 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 3: with him and think that he might be a softer character. 382 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 3: But I do think that he's softened over the years 383 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 3: and that the cancer has really affected his outlook on life. 384 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 3: And part of the reason why I don't think he 385 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 3: handled Prince Andrew as soon as he should have or Andrew, 386 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 3: I should say my Batten Windsor as soon as he 387 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 3: should have, was because a I've always heard that he 388 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 3: promised Queen Elizabeth that he would take care of his brother, 389 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 3: that she was worried about that, and be he does 390 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 3: not like drama, he does not like confrontation. 391 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 392 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: a two Dixon podcast. If I have the story correct, 393 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: he didn't really want to marry Diana, he would have gone. 394 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: He really loved Camilla always right, He. 395 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 3: Did love Camilla, but Camilla ran off and married Andrew 396 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 3: Parker Bowles, who was a playboy. I mean Camilla should 397 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 3: have known she was setting herself up for disappointment because. 398 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: Why was it because she couldn't marry him? Was there 399 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: some rule or what was then. 400 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 2: He went off. 401 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 3: He went off to serve I believe he was going 402 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 3: to expect it to be away. 403 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 2: For three years. 404 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 3: And Andrew Parker Bowles was around. Andrew Parker Bowles, who 405 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 3: also dated King Charles's sister Princess Anne, and everybody was 406 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 3: in love with Andrew Parker Bulls and Andrew Parker Bowles 407 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 3: looked at Camilla a coup, and Camilla was like, I'm 408 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 3: going to secure that because he's so handsome and everybody's 409 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 3: crazy about him. She you know, her great great her 410 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 3: great grandmother was King Charles great great grandfather's mistress. So 411 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 3: the reality was, what are the odds that you are 412 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 3: going to get to marry that guy When you have 413 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 3: that kind of family history. 414 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 2: It's a little incestuous feeling. 415 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 3: And so I don't think she ever really saw herself 416 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 3: as a legitimate option for him. You know, Diana had 417 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 3: to prove that she was a virgin before she married 418 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 3: King Charles. There were such severe expectations still at the time, 419 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 3: and yees, so King Charles he'd seen Diana I think 420 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 3: three times before the family had decided she would make 421 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 3: a good bride, and Prince Philip had cornered him at 422 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 3: one point. There's this rumor, I mean, they were headlines 423 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:50,719 Speaker 3: at the time that they assumed Diana was seen getting 424 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 3: on a train with King Charles, and so there were 425 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 3: all these overnight which was a scandal. So there were 426 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 3: all these headlines about was Diana the blow on the 427 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 3: train with King Charles at the time, and Prince Philip 428 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 3: corners him, knowing that it wasn't Diana on the train 429 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 3: with him and says, you're ruining this girl's reputation. You 430 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 3: know you have to you either pursue her and we 431 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 3: lock this down, or you let her go because she's 432 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 3: going to be you know, brand wise, I don't reputationally, 433 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 3: we're damaging her reputation by allowing some of these headlines 434 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 3: to exist. And so I do think that Prince Charles 435 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 3: at the time felt pressure to marry her when his 436 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 3: heart really wasn't into it. 437 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: Interesting so with the future of the royal family, with 438 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,719 Speaker 1: William looking at titles differently and knowing what happened with 439 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: his own brother, some of the royals in other countries 440 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 1: have decided not to bestow titles upon their own children 441 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: and just at I guess pass it on once they 442 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: are of age. But what happens with his kids. Does 443 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: he do they all continue to keep their titles once 444 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: he's king or does he say, well, I don't want 445 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: the drama I had with my own brother. 446 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 3: Well, you know, Princess Anne did not give her children titles. 447 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 3: Zara and Philip they don't have titles, and Prince Andrew 448 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 3: demanded that Princess Beatrice and Eugenie have titles. So Prince 449 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 3: Edward's children don't utilize theirs. So I do think him, Yeah, 450 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,479 Speaker 3: it's because he's so sane, it's because he's so normal. 451 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: But no scandal, you just fall out of the public 452 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: eye exactly. 453 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 3: So I think that it will be a case by 454 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 3: case basis. Obviously they are preparing. Prince George is the heir, 455 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 3: you know, we just recently saw him at Royal Albert 456 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 3: Hall with his mother, attend a Remembrance Day event with 457 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 3: his mother for veterans, and he was there in replacement 458 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 3: of his father who was late coming home from Rio 459 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 3: for the Earthshot Prize. So I do think that it's 460 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 3: obvious to us that they are quietly preparing Prince George. 461 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 2: But I don't know what the expectations will be. 462 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 3: I know that they specifically don't utilize the word spare 463 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 3: about their children, which you know Harry complains about it, 464 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 3: but that. 465 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 2: Was Diana's doing. 466 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,199 Speaker 3: Diana would be like I gave him the air and 467 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 3: the spare talking about how much she'd sacrifice for that relationship, 468 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 3: and so I know that they don't like to do 469 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 3: that to their own children. William and Catherine, they don't 470 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 3: utilize that type of language because they want to make 471 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 3: sure that nobody feels unworthy. 472 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 1: Is it true that they are actually truly a close 473 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 1: knit family. I read that he starts work at ten 474 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: in the morning and he's done by four so that 475 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: he can spend time with the family. 476 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is true, and I feel bad for him 477 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 3: because he's criticized a lot for it within the house, 478 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 3: within the royal palaces, within the other households, because you know, 479 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 3: William and Catherine have their own household, and King Charles 480 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 3: and Queen Camilla have their own household, and it does 481 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 3: irritate some of the courtiers that William wants to be 482 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 3: home and be with his babies and prioritize his family. 483 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 3: But I think just watching William's children versus watching William 484 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 3: as a child, you can tell that his children are 485 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 3: in a loving home with two parents that are completely committed. 486 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 3: Even when Prince Louis is acting out and you're seeing 487 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 3: the Princess of Wales try to settle him down care 488 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 3: embarrassing guess which she never says, but you when you 489 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 3: see them, you know, interacting with each other and he's 490 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 3: acting out, you can tell that he's a loved little 491 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 3: boy and he's a free spirit because he has the 492 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 3: opportunity to be at home. 493 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 2: And yeah, I do believe. 494 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 3: You know, I've been in I can't tell you how 495 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 3: many times I've been so excited because I'm going to 496 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 3: see William and he's had to cancel because something's come 497 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 3: up at home, and you know, that's where he wants 498 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 3: to be. And even though I'm heartbroken, I understand and 499 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 3: I really admire that because if you do believe Diana 500 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 3: her true story, she does say that Charles spent a 501 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 3: lot of time away from them, and even in Harry's 502 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 3: spare he says something similar. So I think it's great 503 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 3: that those kids are around their mother and father so often. 504 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 3: And also I wish they'd give that family a break, 505 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 3: because you know, William was incredibly traumatized at the thought 506 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 3: of losing his wife so young and having to raise 507 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 3: those children on his own. That was a horrible experience 508 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 3: for them. And yeah, I think he's, you know, celebrating 509 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 3: every day he. 510 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 2: Has with her. 511 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: Does he ever publicly talk about his relationship with his father. 512 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 3: He doesn't talk about their relationship, but he does quite 513 00:28:55,680 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 3: often credit his father for his you know, pursuits, his interests. 514 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 3: We used to make fun of King Charles for talking 515 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 3: to plants, and now everything he said environmentally is trendy 516 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 3: today and something that you know, people with the real 517 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 3: credentials are saying, we need to take seriously when it 518 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 3: comes to that type of pursuit, when it comes to 519 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 3: being an environmentalist or how we can leave the earth 520 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 3: better than we found it. 521 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 2: So he does talk a lot about how his. 522 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 3: Father inspired some of his biggest royal initiatives, like the 523 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 3: Earth Shot Prize. 524 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: You mentioned that Diana's interview affected her relationship with William. 525 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: How has that affected him as a leader and as 526 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: a family man and even his I imagine that that's kind 527 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: of like going through that trauma all over again with 528 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: his own brother. 529 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's my understanding that right before the Panorama interview 530 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 3: where Diana says there were three of us in this marriage, 531 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 3: she admits to her affair with James Hewitt, who was 532 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 3: the boy's writing instructor. I mean, this was all very like, 533 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 3: oh so salacious at the time. Also, it's contradicting so 534 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 3: much work that the Palace had put into killing some 535 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 3: of these stories on her behalf and on behalf of 536 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 3: her children so they wouldn't be embarrassed by some of 537 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 3: these things. It's my understanding that Williams, the head of 538 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 3: William's school, found out about the interview and asked Diana 539 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 3: to please come out and talk to William and warn 540 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 3: him about it before it aired, And so she did 541 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 3: and tried to. 542 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 2: Make it out like it wasn't going to be that 543 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 2: big of a deal. 544 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 3: And I don't know how many people know this, but 545 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 3: it's my understanding that William watched the interview and in 546 00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 3: somebody in leadership's office at Eton, and when they came 547 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 3: back at the end, he was in tears. 548 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 2: He was so worked up over it. 549 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 3: I mean, it is humiliating your mom is airing the 550 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 3: family's dirty laundry, and so how does it affect you know? 551 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 3: I do think that he goes out of his way 552 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 3: to protect his family. 553 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 2: There's a viral video of a photographer. 554 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 3: Following them when they're all on bicycles, you know, out 555 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 3: in the middle of nowhere, just riding bikes as a family, 556 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 3: and William gets in his face and says, you're not 557 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 3: going to record my family, get out of here. He's 558 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 3: incredibly protective of his family, and we rarely rarely see 559 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 3: those moments where people photographers do violate the family's privacy, 560 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 3: which I think is important to mention because Harry and 561 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 3: Megan act like that's why they had. 562 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 2: To flee flee the UK. 563 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 3: But I think that it probably did feel like an 564 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 3: unbelievable violation when Prince Harry started doing things that were 565 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 3: very similar. And I think it's incredibly unfair for Megan 566 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 3: mark Well to dress his Diana Diana and cosplay is Diana. 567 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 3: For Prince William to have to see that in the press, 568 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 3: that has to be very unsettling. 569 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's the thing that has haunted all 570 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: of us, especially here in the United States, where we 571 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: feel like, well, we created her and now she is 572 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: altering their life so dramatically, And even the stories that 573 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: came out, and when I forgot about the race baiting 574 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: and how the curtsy that was so humiliating, we watched 575 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: someone just Harry, completely humiliated by her, and that was 576 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: a moment where I think we all went, oh, this 577 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: is this is not a healthy relationship. This is not okay. 578 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: And I think we've given him a lot of grace 579 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: for the book. But he chose and he knew what 580 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: he was doing, and I think that grace can only 581 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: go so far, especially if you're the family. But I 582 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: could talk to you about this forever. We didn't even 583 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: get to her acting and going back to that and 584 00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: what that means for Harry. 585 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 2: But what that means not a lot. 586 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 3: Okay, Good luck Meghan. 587 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: I mean really, I don't know who watches her show 588 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: as it I'm like, who watches this again? 589 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 2: To watch this? 590 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: Yes? Yes, absolutely, I don't know. I guess they're getting 591 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: paid for it, and it seems like they'll do anything 592 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 1: to get paid. So I feel like that's just the 593 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: measure of whether or not we're watching Harry and Meghan. 594 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: Are they getting paid for it? So, but you gave 595 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: us great insight into the royal family today. 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