1 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Official Jets Podcast was presented by wind Bat. Betting is 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,319 Speaker 1: a team sport, but together at win Batt Eric Gallen 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: here in Indianapolis, joined by Michael Smith of Amazon and 4 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: NBC Sports. Once the last time you were at the 5 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: scouting combine? Great question? Whatever, So I'm getting old, I'm 6 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: losing track of years. You're not getting old. You're talking 7 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: to somebody's older than you. Barely you look good, though, 8 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 1: So I stopped being on the NFL beat on O nine, 9 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: I say so, I think the O nine draft was 10 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: the last draft that I covered as a quote unquote 11 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: insider for ESPN. And I say quote unquote because my 12 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 1: insider heyday would have been two thousand and one, starting 13 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: at the Boston Globe through two thousand I would say 14 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: six or seven at ESPN. Then I transitioned into more 15 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: of a generalist and a studio guy and a talking head. 16 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: But in O nine, I think I was still doing 17 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: the draft. So I say that to say, whatever the 18 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: year was where they moved to a the RCA Dome 19 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: and into Lucas Oil, whatever year that would have been, 20 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: because I remember feeling like, man, this is different because 21 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: I used to come when it was you know, a 22 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 1: Chilean convention was intersecting, yes, with the Combine, So it 23 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 1: was like you trying to talk to coaches and a 24 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: bunch of squealing little girls running by. So and it was. 25 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: It was at the RCA Dome, and it's changed a 26 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: lot long to make a long story short. So this 27 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 1: is my first time in well over a decade being 28 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: at the combine. It's great to be bad. So how 29 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: do you go about attacking this week? As far as 30 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: you're a guy who's a storyteller? Yeah, so do you 31 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: come in with a few storylines in mind or you 32 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: want to see how it develops? I appreciate you asking that. Well, 33 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: the good news is um from a pure signment standpoint, 34 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: just to kind of go inside baseball, how the sausages 35 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: made from pure assignment standpoint. I did my daily talk 36 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: show Brother from Another, which is streamed on Peacock and 37 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: Serious XM weekday Street to four. I did that episode 38 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: from here yesterday, and that's it for that. I recorded 39 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: a couple of interviews from my interview series with NBC 40 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: called gets It as in he gets It as you know, 41 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: there's no greater compliment somebody can get than he or 42 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: she gets it. But my goal here and what I'm 43 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: looking to accomplish is I mentioned that I've been away 44 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: from the game in this capacity for a while, and 45 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: I returned to it for Amazon Thursday Night Football last season. 46 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,559 Speaker 1: And even though I may have some name or face recognition, 47 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 1: especially for this new generation of coaching GM, many of 48 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: whom were now younger than me, which back in the 49 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: day it was the opposite. I was a young guy. 50 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: Now the oh, I grew up watching you. I'm like, damn, 51 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 1: That's why I say I'm getting no tholes. I get 52 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: a lot of that nowadays. I grew up watching you. 53 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: I just want to re establish myself because I don't 54 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: take for granted. I'll tell you a quick story just 55 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: to kind of make the point. When I joined Amazon, 56 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: I was insisted upon. I did not, even though the 57 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: role is something like this, it's more than this, but 58 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: essentially it's what we would kind of call an insider. 59 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: My title with Amazon on Thursday Night Football is news analysts. 60 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: And now not just because I didn't want to be 61 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: boxed into the idea of being an insider and a 62 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: news breaker and a scoop guy, I also have too 63 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: much respect having done that on a national level for 64 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: ESPN for a long time. I have too much respect 65 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: for what that entails, and too much respect for the 66 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: work that goes into that and the time that goes 67 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: into that. Eric. So for me, a big source of anxiety, 68 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: if I'm being honest with you, was jumping back into 69 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: a world that I've been out of for a decade. 70 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: I hadn't been working the phones. A lot of those 71 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: relationships that I built, quite honestly, unfortunately, I kind of 72 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: lost touch with. There were new people in positions of 73 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: authority that I had not ever met before. So I'm 74 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: gonna jump back in and I'm gonna all of a 75 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: sudden be a national insider along with you know, the 76 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: Schefters and the Rappaports and the Glazers and the Joneses. 77 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: Like I'm I respect them too much and I respect 78 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: that job too much to think that I can just 79 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: roll out of bed and do that. So long answer, 80 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: but I'm getting to a point. My goal here is 81 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: just to reconnect or as the case may be introduced, 82 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: myself some people that may not know me, and even 83 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: if they do know me, they don't know me in 84 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: such a way where they might know me to trust 85 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: me because that so, whether it's a handshake, whether it's 86 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: just a hi, I just want to introduce myself or 87 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: reintroduce myself as the case, maybe a cup of coffee 88 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: if I'm lucky, sure, or a hell a meal if 89 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 1: I hit the lottery. I'm not looking to necessarily get 90 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 1: anything out of it tangible right now. I'm a long 91 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 1: game player. I've been playing a long game for a 92 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: long time. I think I played pretty well. So this 93 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 1: is about really just networking, shaking hands and kissing babies. 94 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: But thank you for the question. What do you know 95 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: of Joe Douglas and Robert Sala? Sala is not here 96 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: this right. We're seeing that more and more from staffs 97 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: throughout today. Yeah. Well yeah, they're actually staying back. I 98 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: think COVID changed some things up. I think it also 99 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: seems to be a forty nine ers thing too. Yeah, 100 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: oh that tree, because because Laflora is not here, Sala's 101 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: not here, Shannahan, I don't believe it's here either, So 102 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: it seems to be something there. What do I know 103 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: them in general? Or what about about how about your 104 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: relationships with those guys? So thanks for asking. Um so 105 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: again wanted to I think A big part of my 106 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: success and anybody's success is just showing up. So we 107 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: were fortunate to have the Jets and Jaguars and end 108 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: of the season, which, by the way, going into the year, 109 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: we looked at that game it was like, that's not 110 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: gonna be an interesting game. That's gonna be like a dud. 111 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: And sure enough, at least the way it played out 112 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: wasn't interesting. But going into it a significant game for 113 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: both sides, right, Jaguars rolling Jets were trying to get 114 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: into the playoffs. So I paid paid a visit to 115 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: Floring Park and uh got some face time with Robert, 116 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: which was great. He was kind enough to grant me 117 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: an audience post press conference and we just but for me, 118 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: it was really informal, Like I wasn't looking for they 119 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: give me the scoop. I was just looking to kind 120 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: of get to know the man who I'd heard a 121 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: lot about, and thankfully my reputation preceded me in a 122 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: good way. Um, this goes back to the the old I am. 123 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: So I see Joe Douglas yesterday. I was like, hey, 124 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 1: Joe Michael Smith, I just want to introduce myself. So, yeah, 125 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: I met you a long time ago with Chad Alexander 126 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: with the Ravens. Yeah, I was like, oh yeah. I 127 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: was like, oh yeah, but see that's a lifetime ago 128 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: for me. Good on him for remembering that. I guess 129 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: I must have made an impression or just recognized my face. 130 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, if you're looking for the inside 131 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: scoop and the jets, I ain't got it. But I'm saying, like, 132 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: you know, for me, I'm glad you said I'm a 133 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: storyteller because I appreciate that. If I put that on 134 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: the lower third, I would I didn't. You are you 135 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: don't get to this spot in your profession. But I 136 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: don't want to be thank you. I don't. I don't 137 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: want to just be like a dude. That's like telling 138 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: you who gets trade traded out, who gets signed five 139 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: minutes for everybody else does no disrespect to the people 140 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: who do it of that's just never floated my proverbial boat. 141 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: I want to be a person who provides contexts, insight, information, 142 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: and occasional entertainment to the hardcore football fans such as myself, 143 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: and building these relationships and being able to have honest 144 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: conversations with these decision makers is why I'm here, and 145 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: so it's worth the trip. It's worth getting in at 146 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: three o'clock in the morning Monday night, Tuesday morning for 147 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: two minutes with Joe Douglas. Yeah, that I hadn't previously had, 148 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: or hadn't had in over a decade. So it's already 149 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: been a valuable trip for me. I'm glad you dropped 150 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: Chad Alexander. He's one of the best guys. And then 151 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: the office, he's such a key figure out. Yes, I've 152 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: known him for a long time, going back to Baltimore. Yeah, 153 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: let me ask you about Sala. Everybody talks about the 154 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: way he is with the players, Yeah, and how he 155 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: commands the room for people who don't have the opportunity 156 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: to go one on one with them. Yeah, like you 157 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: did following the news conference. Yeah, what was that like 158 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: for you? And how do you come away feeling maybe 159 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: differently or what do you glean from confirmation in the words? Yeah, 160 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: because I also got a chance to spend a lot 161 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: of time around Richard Sherman this year for Thursday night football. 162 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: And if there are there are two people that I 163 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: heard a lot about it there, if there's if I 164 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: could look at nothing else from Thursday night football and 165 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 1: working alongside Richard Charman. There are two people I heard 166 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: a lot about enough for a lifetime, Russell Wilson and 167 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: Robert Salama. Robert Sala, He's get you somebody in your 168 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: life that rides for you the way that Richard Sherman 169 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: rides for Robert salom So that spoke volumes that he 170 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: just had the utmost respect for him as a man. 171 00:08:57,920 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: So I wanted to see what all the fuss is about. 172 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: And again it's one conversation, it's one impression. But as 173 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: as impressions go, I was impressed. Um just had just 174 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: was measured and just had clearly a guy that has 175 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: a vision, that's a natural leader, that's a very effective communicator, 176 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: and I think, you know, it takes a special kind 177 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: of guy to not only survive New York with to 178 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: thrive in New York and to have staying power. I 179 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: left that conversation Robert Solo saying like, let's the bottom 180 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: truly falls out, because I mean it happens he has 181 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: a chance to be in New York as long as 182 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: he wants to be. Just with the way he commands 183 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: not just the organization but the market. I think he's 184 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: just got that IT factor about him and and not 185 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: the IT factor, not the not the Rex Ryan it factor. Yeah, 186 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 1: but the ID factor like again, credibility like and not to. 187 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 1: This isn't to that's dispersions on anybody else. But I'm 188 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: just saying, like, I think what you see is what 189 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: you get. What he gives you is the truth. It 190 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: may not be everything to the story, but I don't 191 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: think you got somebody up at a podium or in 192 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: front of a team, as a case may be, who's 193 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: not being real and honest and upfront with you. What 194 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: about the Douglas dynamic. You said you've known Joe for 195 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: a long time. You're going back to the Baltimore days 196 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: where obviously he came up in the National Football League. 197 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 1: His first year he won a Super Bowl. He's got 198 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 1: three rings. What's he like in that one on one setting? 199 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: And can you talk about the respect that he has 200 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: throughout the National Football League? Because that's one thing that 201 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: even before he walked into building, I talked to people 202 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: at various organizations and different media folks. Nobody ever said 203 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: a bad word about it. Jay, You go, That's what 204 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: I was that was going to be. My answer is 205 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: that there's a lot of guys that have a good 206 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: eye for talent, a lot of guys can pick play, 207 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: a lot of guys can evaluate. But to me, if 208 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: the first thing people will say, like, he's just a 209 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: good dude, right, because like eighty percent of the job, 210 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: if not more, is managing the building, right, is what 211 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: kind of tone you said? What kind of environment, what 212 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: kind of work environment, what kind of relationships you have 213 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: with everybody throughout the building, not just players, not just coaches, 214 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: but the sales department, the ticket office is a cafeteria. 215 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: It's like managing the building general, generally managing, right, And 216 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: so you gotta be a good person and just like 217 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: the type of dude that people can feel a connection with. 218 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 1: And I think that's what the Jets have. And Robert 219 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: Sala again not to suggest Robert Sala Angel Douglas, not 220 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: to suggest that they did not have that before. Again, 221 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: I don't want to make it seem like, oh, for 222 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: the first time they got good dudes. But like, I 223 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: think that's the thing about Joe Douglas is there's a 224 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: good evaluated as the good um roster builder, but also 225 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: just a good dude. I think that goes a long 226 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: way throughout the building, but also throughout the league. It's like, 227 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: you know, you want to feel good about who you're 228 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: doing business with. You want to feel good about who 229 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: you're in business with, who you're working with, who you're 230 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: going to work for. Um. I think he brings all 231 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: that to the table. So I would say his reputation 232 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: is one as he's well regarded, well regarded as as 233 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: a person and no small thing as a as a 234 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: talent evaluator. The way I describe Joe to others is, 235 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: I know he as a temper. I've never seen it. 236 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: I don't want to see it. And I think that 237 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: a lot of people who work with him would say 238 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: he's a guy you just don't want to let down. Yeah, 239 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: he's us so much respect. I think there's temper and 240 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: then there's passion. Yeah. I think he's got an infectious passion. 241 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: I think he's got a fire about him. Um. He's 242 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: so very thoughtful, you know, I found again brief conversations, 243 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: but listening to him, I think he's just I think 244 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: it's very thoughtful and deliberate. UM calculator but not um 245 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: calculator but not sinister. Yeah. Yeah, So who do you 246 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 1: want you're you're not a Jets fan, but I mean 247 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 1: just from that storytelling, Yeah, somebody in the business who 248 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: covers sports. Yeah, what do you think makes the most 249 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: sense for the Jets that quarterback? Yeah? And who who 250 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: would Michael Smith? I want to see that. It's a 251 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: great question. Who would be the best story? I'll tell 252 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: you who. It wouldn't be. It wouldn't be Rogers. It 253 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: would not be Rogers. If I were writing the script. 254 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: It seems to be the fad nowadays. Write the script. 255 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: I would not put um Aaron Rodgers in New York. 256 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: And it doesn't feel like, it doesn't feel like that 257 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a reality anyway. It feels like, you know, 258 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: if he plays again, it's gonna be in Green Bay, 259 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: because I just I think that has disaster written all over. 260 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: I think that ends badly. Could the Jets go to 261 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: the playoffs with him? Sure? I don't think it's that simple. 262 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: I think Matthew Stafford in LA and Tom Brady and 263 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: Tampa have given people the impression that just add water, 264 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: just add quarterback, or if Robert Tyler would say instant coffee. 265 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: I don't think it's that simple. And I think the 266 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: Jets as an organization as a fan base have been 267 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: down that path already with another former Packers quarterback by 268 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: way of Minnesota. Not to say that the same dude, 269 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: but there's similarities. And I just if I'm the Jets 270 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: and it's such a young, up and coming team, I 271 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: don't want. I don't want an organ I don't want 272 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: a guy who might be one year and is he 273 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: all in for that one year? So I was talking 274 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: to Brad Holmes earlier and a lot of people looked 275 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: at Jared Goff as like a throw in. And that's 276 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: aforementioned Stafford trade thought he was a bust, even though 277 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: he had gone to the super Bowl with the ram him. 278 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: Look at him. Is there a guy like that that's 279 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: not the headliner? I know New York is all about headliners, 280 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: but it's like, is there a guy like that that 281 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: just is on the upswing um that maybe doesn't come 282 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: with the stuff that Aaron Rodgers does, or you know, 283 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: I mean I look bad. I like gardenments you. Yeah, 284 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: I know he's been a backup, but I think you 285 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: know twenty six two, three year deal not you ain't 286 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: blown up her cap to get him free agent? Look 287 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: at you throw a little curve like you or or 288 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: drafted guy and just develop him the old fashioned way. Hey, listen, 289 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: I love Mike White, yeah, I mean, and I know 290 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: he couldn't stay healthy, but I mean, you know who 291 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: more importantly loves Mike White that locker room. So I'll 292 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: be listened. Is he the guy? Is he a guy 293 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: that's gonna take you to the problemised land? Maybe not, 294 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: but I mean they just I don't know, man, I 295 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: got I think sometimes people just kind of like they 296 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: want the quarterbacks to come in the front door and 297 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: they send from the heavens. It does more often than not, 298 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: it doesn't happen that way oftentimes, like it's rare that 299 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: it happens. Like I mean, you guys, how many times 300 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: you pick second, third, fourth, fifth or whatever? And you know, 301 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: I mean there's at least three I'm in the last 302 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: handful of years between fact not Sanchez and Darnald and 303 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: now Wilson. It's like, I don't I would prefer the 304 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: Jets not go that route again if they can help. 305 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: If you're gonna draft somebody, draft the guy and let 306 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: them give him some time. Listen. I enjoyed it. I 307 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: even unbelievably vracious with your time. Thank you. I hope 308 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: the Jets see you a couple of times next year 309 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: on Amazon. Yeah, and I'd love to have you back 310 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: because there's a few things that I'd like to tackle 311 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: with you. Because he just recently wrote about Jim called 312 00:16:56,080 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: well minority coaching in the National Football League. There could 313 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 1: be a podcast. I mean, we could have a podcast series. Yeah, yeah, 314 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: I really want to dive into that with you at 315 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 1: someone would love to. Yeah, let's do this again. Man, 316 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 1: I'm always around like, Yeah. Hopefully this was enjoyable for 317 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: you and the listeners and definitely enjoyable for me. So 318 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: thanks for having appreciate it. Thanks man. Jets fans, we're 319 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: in our final push and the clock is ticking. Windbet 320 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: is giving you a golden opportunity to win VIP prizes 321 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: for the twenty twenty three season. 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Betty's a team sport, 331 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: but together win Bet. Eric Ellen here joined by a 332 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: familiar face for Jets fans everywhere. That's Connor Rogers. We've 333 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:17,719 Speaker 1: confined everywhere, right, Pro Football Focus, bad Lands, why now 334 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: that's right? And I'm here with NBC. It's just as 335 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: many jobs as I can completely handle. Unbelievable Jets off season. 336 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: We got to start with the quarterback position. What do 337 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: you think this team should be attack? And we know 338 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 1: they're in the veteran quarterback sharket, but who do you 339 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: think should be their number one target? Who makes sense? 340 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 1: It's Aaron Rodgers obviously, because if you're looking at this conference, 341 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: it's insane. Right now. You've got to be thinking, if 342 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: you're the New York Jets, you look at what they've 343 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: done with this roster. It's not going to make the playoffs, 344 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: and they should feel confident they were real close last year. 345 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: It's a talented group. It's an ascending group. I think 346 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: we forget that sometimes, EA that Sauce Gardner and Gary Wilson, 347 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: as good as they were, they should get better now. 348 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: So this could be a really special group. Why not 349 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 1: go out and get the guy that you think with 350 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers that can match up against Mahomes, against Josh 351 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: Allen who's in your division, against Joe Burrow. And let's 352 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 1: not forget Herbert and Trevor Lawrence. They're gonna get much 353 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 1: better too. So but I say start at the top 354 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: with the most talented guy. He's got plenty of good 355 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 1: football left in him, and see if you can get 356 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers to come to New York. Yeah, when you 357 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 1: make a Rodgers last year because a lot of people 358 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: were down on his numbers, but if you really look 359 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: at it, how many injuries he played, so the thumb injury, 360 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: I still think he was twenty four and twelve and 361 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, he had a solid year. 362 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: If the Jets had those kind of numbers a quarterback 363 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 1: position last year, who knows where they would be in 364 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Exactly. That's exactly right. And you look at 365 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 1: Green Bay in a vacuum. They had problems on the 366 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 1: interior of the offensive line. The skilled talent was really 367 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 1: really young in some areas it needed to be ready, 368 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: and sure Christian Watson started to take that step in 369 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: the second half of the year, but it was a 370 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: slow start for their young wide receivers and for Rodgers. Yeah, 371 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: so not a ton of talent. They have a good backfield, 372 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: but once again, when you're dealing with injuries, you're dealing 373 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 1: with a shaky offensive line, and you were still good, right, 374 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: Sure he wasn't Mvpren Rogers be still really good. Well, 375 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: you start to picture him with the New York Jets 376 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: and you go, Garrett Wilson, get Elijah More going. You 377 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: have Breeesaw coming back. Let's not forget they have draft 378 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 1: picks and they can maneuver the cap if they need 379 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: to make those moves. Maybe do a couple of retoolings 380 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: of the offensive line. Hopefully McKay Beckton can stay health. 381 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: Do you have Aabyt coming back? A lot of different 382 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: maneuvers to make this offense even better. You got three 383 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 1: tight ends that I think can play. I think Jeremy 384 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 1: Rutger takes a big step next year as well. So 385 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: I mean when you picture and Rodgers in the Jets offense, 386 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: you're thinking good things. What do you think about some 387 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 1: of the additions and then offensive staff highlighted by of 388 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: course Nathaniel Hackett, who was in Denver last year but 389 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: who's hit a lot of success as an offensive play 390 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: caller in the National Football League. So what I like 391 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: about the Hacket higher is I think they are going 392 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: to be a tough, gritty run team again, and I 393 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: think that's what you have to be in this conference. 394 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: And I think a lot of teams struggle to accept 395 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,479 Speaker 1: that because they either have a flashy quarterback or they 396 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: have the big, high octane passing game. But when you 397 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: get into the cold weather games and you got to 398 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: close out of season and it's freezing rain, it's snow, 399 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: it's the playoffs, you're traveling. The things that travel through 400 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: weather and away from your home stadium is playing defense 401 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: and running the football. Let's be real, Breece Hall, he 402 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 1: could be one of the best running backs in the 403 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: entire NFL. And the Jets know that they feel like 404 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: they have some pieces on the offensive line and they're 405 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: gonna get more that they can develop that run game 406 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 1: and Hackett has experience developing those run games to eight 407 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 1: a quarterback that's so important for this Jets team. What's 408 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 1: the temperature of the fan base right now? I mean 409 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: we just talked at the topier of the pod. How 410 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: many media obligations that you take care of? With that 411 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: being said, you live in the area, You know this base, 412 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 1: You know the fans. Where you think they're at in 413 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: terms of Salah, Joe Douglas, this roster and what's ahead 414 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: with the quarterback. Yeah, you're right, they're eager and you 415 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: nailed it. I mean I basically went from being in 416 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: a stroller to being in the metal Lands. It was 417 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 1: no stops in between, so and it was the metal Lands, 418 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: not MetLife back then. I mean, listen, they're passion They've 419 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 1: stuck through hard years. They care so much. They care 420 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 1: during the offseason just as much as week seven, Week eight, 421 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: week nine, And I think that speaks to how badly 422 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 1: they deserve to see a competitive playoff football team. And 423 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: I think the Jets are inching towards that and that 424 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: has them more excited. But they know that quarterback position. 425 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: Having a veteran stability at that quarterback position is going 426 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 1: to elevate the other players that they've cheered so hard for, 427 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: whether or not just Garrett Wilson and Breeze Hall, but 428 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: what about Elijah More. What are you gonna get out 429 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 1: of Tyler Conklin next year? And a young guy like 430 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: Rutger and Michael Carter, let's not forget about him as well. 431 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean they're so excited and they're just 432 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: dying for that move. And it's not the new league 433 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:37,719 Speaker 1: gear yet. That's the funny thing in all of this. 434 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: It's a weird time because once that league gear starts, 435 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 1: the door opens for free agency, trades, all these other aspects, 436 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: and then they kick to the draft. So these fans 437 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: are very excited, the very eager, and I don't blame them. 438 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 1: After they get done with the quarterback, what else does 439 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: this team have to do in free agency? Prior to 440 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: the draft. We know the list of nineteen unrestricted free agents, 441 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: whether it's resigning their guys, restructuring their guys are looking elsewhere, right, 442 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 1: So it's gonna be fascinating what they do internally and 443 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: what they know internally that maybe we don't, right, is 444 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: Dwayne Brown gonna play? Do you need a left tackle? 445 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: Where is Abt gonna play. Abt can succeed at any 446 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: position on the offensive line. I really think if he 447 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 1: wanted to, he could be a great center. The Jets 448 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: don't need him to be a great center, But you 449 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: think ultimately shifts back the guard. It just depends when 450 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: they come out of the draft. Ultimately, I think so, 451 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 1: and I look at it like this, EA, right, let's 452 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: go into and say they bring back McGovern at center, 453 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: or they sign a center, so you have that position. 454 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: You know, Laken's playing left guard. I look at it 455 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: like this. At thirteen in this draft, you can walk 456 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: away with your left tackle, whether that's Roderick Jones, Paris Johnson, 457 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: Peter Scronsky. There's a lot of different avenues to get 458 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: that left tackle spot. You look at right tackle, McKay 459 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: Becking's coming back, Let Max Mitchell come back and compete. 460 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: Let those guys compete, and then you put Abt at 461 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: right guard, where I think he could be one of 462 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: the best right guards in the league next year. I 463 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: really do so. Ultimately, it feels like right guard. But 464 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 1: it's nice because this is a league full of injuries. 465 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: Of course, that he can save you at any moment 466 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: at a tackle spot. Where are you at with Elijah Moore? 467 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 1: A very good rookie year obviously went through some turbulence, 468 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: yeah in year two, but again new staff, gonna be 469 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 1: a new quarterback thrown the football. What do you think 470 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 1: about him approaching year three. I'm a believer for a 471 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,199 Speaker 1: lot of different reasons. Right. Number one, I think that 472 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 1: after Garrett Wilson, the touches go to him in this 473 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: wide receiver group going next year. I really think he's 474 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: elevated to that spot. Number two, I think he's gonna 475 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: be rejuvenated. I think he's gonna look around the culture 476 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: around him. He just saw his teammate win Offensive Rookie 477 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: of the Year. He's gonna work with a new offensive staff, 478 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: and he's gonna be a guy that goes okay. I 479 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: believe in our quarterback, whoever that may be, and we're 480 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 1: gonna be ready to roll. And we have big expectations 481 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: for our team this year. And that's big expectations for 482 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: me internally and personally. And then number three goes back 483 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: to that staff. I think Hackett knows how to utilize 484 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: the slot and we know more. What you love about 485 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 1: him is the inside outside versatility. I'd like to see 486 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: him eighty percent of the time in the slot. I 487 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 1: think he's got really quick releases. I think he understands 488 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: how to separate in that five to twelve yard range. 489 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: I think you can get him some manufactured touches, get 490 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: him going more in the Jets suite, get his head 491 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: in the game right away, and you'll see a different 492 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: Elijah More. So call me crazy, I'm a big believer 493 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: in year three of Elijah More. How about some possible restructures, 494 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 1: because Joe Douglas said yesterday that he was clear about 495 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: it that yes, we're over the cap, but we have 496 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 1: plenty of flexibility. They can make a lot of moves. Yeah, 497 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: they do, They really do, and that's the league they 498 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: live in. Joe Douglas was very proud of the fact 499 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: that they don't have a ton of money. Kick the 500 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: can down the road and they can go that route 501 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: if they need to. There's a free agent they love 502 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: out there. This is a team that might be looking 503 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 1: for a starting safety. Maybe they do look to retool 504 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 1: the offensive line, Maybe they look to sign another wide receiver. 505 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: You never know. They need some size in that room 506 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: at some point, so you can restructure a Carl Lawson. 507 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: You can get a lot of money out of different places. 508 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: There's interesting post June one decisions to be made. Once again, 509 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: that Dwayne Brown retirement lingering. The Jets are a team. 510 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: Everybody tries to do the three easy two to three 511 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 1: easy cuts and go, oh, they'll have enough to get 512 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: Derek Carr or a quarterback, but not much after that. 513 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: The Jets can make a lot of moves, whether it's 514 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: void years, whether it's reas structures, whether it's post you 515 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 1: and that they could be a player for any free 516 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: agent in this market or trade. Yeah, and Joe said 517 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: it at the end of that news conference. Hey listen, 518 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: we're in great shape here. He made that clear. With 519 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 1: the cap and where they are at financially, this draft 520 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: feels a lot different for the Jets this year, doesn't 521 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 1: It really does. Like the pressure on Joe last year 522 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: was you got to hit a home run in the draft. 523 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,360 Speaker 1: Early indications are maybe he didn't hit a home run, 524 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 1: maybe it hit a Grand Slam, but for him, the 525 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: pressure this year for the Jets is landing that veteran quarterback. 526 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: Whereas you feel like you're gonna go into the draft 527 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 1: with a very good roster and a lot of options 528 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: to maneuver however you want to. So right, I feel 529 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: like the last two drafts, which is my full time job, 530 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: it was about building a house, and this year it's like, 531 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: can we put a roof on this thing? Right? And 532 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: that's what it really comes down to. And it's good 533 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: to have those building blocks, that infrastructure where they go 534 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: into this draft and hey, maybe they need an offensive lineman. 535 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: There's the Big Three. They take that at thirteen. Hey, 536 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: maybe they love a guy like Brian Branch because he's 537 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 1: the highest floor dB in the draft. Maybe, and you 538 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: go get yourself a safety, You get bigger at safety, 539 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: get a sure fire tackler. So it's a nice luxury 540 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: to have when you're starting to fill the holes of 541 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: your roster. Not just take the best guy, because there's 542 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 1: holes everywhere. Speaking of everywhere, we can find you everywhere. 543 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: It kind of rogers. Make sure you get some rest 544 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: here this week in Indianapolis. We appreciate it, brother, Thanks, 545 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: I appreciate it.