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Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up,

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Speaker 1: straight Fire fan, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: November sixteenth. Got a great guest today as we hurdle

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Speaker 1: closer to meaningful college football games. Massive weekend in the

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Speaker 1: PAC twelve U, S C, U C l A highlighting

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Speaker 1: the slate. Obviously, we had the college football playoff rankings

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Speaker 1: come out last night. I don't really think it matters

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Speaker 1: that much. And truthfully, the guest we have, Yogi roth

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Speaker 1: Pack twelve Network, wrote a book on recruiting and quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: He's really good. I'm sure you guys know him. He

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Speaker 1: was on Pete Carroll staff at USC. He's all over

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Speaker 1: the elite eleven. We took a little NFL draft UM

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Speaker 1: two thousand twenty three, even a two not yes, that's

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Speaker 1: actually happens, but you know our I think our breakdown

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Speaker 1: is better than what they revealed last night in the

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Speaker 1: college football rankings. It's a little silly. It's largely irrelevant.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't really mean anything because there's games

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Speaker 1: coming up that actually matter, Like, yes, Georgia's one, Ohio

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Speaker 1: State two doesn't matter, Michigan three doesn't matter. Whoever wins

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Speaker 1: that game gets in. I don't want to hear this.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, the loser of that game still has a shot. No,

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Speaker 1: neither of them have a resume that will be that

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Speaker 1: good outside of their loss. Yes, the the loser will

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Speaker 1: have a good loss, but the winds aren't there. Michigan

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Speaker 1: doesn't have any good wins TCU. If he goes out, defeed,

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Speaker 1: it's in. Sorry Tennessee. The wild card is USC, and

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Speaker 1: we dive deep into USC. Listen if they went out,

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Speaker 1: if they beat U C l A, which is ranked,

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Speaker 1: opponents in their final three weeks that will get the in.

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Speaker 1: They're one loss will be to Utah in the game

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Speaker 1: the resume. It will be better than Ohio State or Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Whoever loses that team. Now where it gets interesting is okay,

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Speaker 1: But now we're getting ahead of ourselves. Um. Other than that,

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Speaker 1: sports world NBA. You know, I saw injury to my

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Speaker 1: Doesn't look all that serious. Um, you know, obviously I

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Speaker 1: like him a lot. They look good. Kings now finally

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Speaker 1: above fived, So happy for them. Gosh, you guys know

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Speaker 1: King's playoffs. That's one that I banked. I backed up

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Speaker 1: with my wallet. We'll see if it happens. Nice wind

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Speaker 1: for the Maths over the Clippers. UCA legend, I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's incredible. College basketball was okay last night. I watched

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Speaker 1: a couple of games. The most interesting thing was tom

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Speaker 1: Izzo putting Calipari in a body bag at the end

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Speaker 1: of regulation, inbound pass leading to a dunk. At the

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Speaker 1: to a dunk, and they went in double overtime. Calipari, Listen,

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Speaker 1: He's an amazing recruiter. We get that, we get it.

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Speaker 1: But overall, like jeez, great win for Izzo again. It's

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Speaker 1: college basketball, It's November. Am I watching? Heck? Yeah? Did

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Speaker 1: I see that referee get decked in the Kansas Duke game? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I laughed. But I'm more excited for the World Cup. Guys.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry I was. I was doing heavy drill downs

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Speaker 1: last night on the World Cup. I'll be putting bets

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Speaker 1: four World Cup games on the I g stories. I

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Speaker 1: did fire on Ecuador. Yes, Ecuador, quitar. I am actionable gambling.

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Speaker 1: fan and we we've become friendly on social media, and

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Speaker 1: he's like, listen to Ecuador. Here's a case for Ecuador.

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen. World Cup is very exciting. Starts this weekend.

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Speaker 1: NFL college football, I mean, folks, this is a great

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Speaker 1: time to be alive. But without further ado, let's get

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Speaker 1: to our guest, PAC twelve Network analyst author uh mr

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Speaker 1: college football Yogi Roth. Jason likes to think he knows

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Speaker 1: everything when it comes to sports. I know what sports

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Speaker 1: let's welcome into straight fire. A guy you know, if

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Speaker 1: FS one. He's everywhere. He's written a book about the

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Speaker 1: five star quarterback. It's not about the stars, It's about

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Speaker 1: the journey, my man, Yogi Roth, How you doing, Yogi?

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Speaker 1: I'm great, man, Thanks for having me on. Uh. I

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Speaker 1: it speak to the depth of the conference this year? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a while, so you've seen the ebbs and flows to

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Speaker 1: and if you Slay loses, they're not. Like everything else

425
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Speaker 1: is still out for debate because of the tiebreakers. Yeah. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, man. I could every five minutes I

427
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Speaker 1: go back and forth of who I think would win

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Speaker 1: the game. So I know people don't like to hear this,

429
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Speaker 1: but in a game with so much on the line

430
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Speaker 1: for the PAC twelve haven't been to the College Football

431
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Speaker 1: Playoff in years. Um, you know, USC, the conference would

432
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Speaker 1: love USC to win this game. Obviously, they still have

433
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Speaker 1: to beat Notre Dame next week and then when the

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Speaker 1: um Pact twelve championship. But there's a lot writing on this.

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Speaker 1: I would say more for USC than U c l A.

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Speaker 1: Because I don't think U c l A. I don't

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Speaker 1: think they can get to the College Football Playoff of

438
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Speaker 1: two losses, right, I mean, they would need beyond chaos

439
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Speaker 1: whatever that is to happen, right Yeah, I mean we've

440
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Speaker 1: never seen a two lost team naked, and that may

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Speaker 1: happen if l s he was able to win the

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Speaker 1: SEC title. Like to your point, Like, you know, I

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Speaker 1: get to be part of the team that presents to

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Speaker 1: the CFP on behalf of the pack twelve of our

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Speaker 1: commissioner and Martin Hank So it's really cool too, you know,

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Speaker 1: just to kind of you try to shed light unique

447
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Speaker 1: light beyond the stats on each team in each program. Again,

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Speaker 1: to the point of this year in college football, I

449
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Speaker 1: don't think there's anybody that I say gets a pass

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Speaker 1: to the playoff, meaning there's I don't think Ohio State

451
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Speaker 1: or Missioner that much better or Georgia is that much better.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see on the two loss thing could be

453
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Speaker 1: fun if chaos and zus I think we don't like that. Yeah,

454
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Speaker 1: but to your point, yeah, USC, right now, with how

455
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Speaker 1: we see the playoffs standing in the historicals around it,

456
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Speaker 1: are the remaining strong chance for the pack. Now, I'll

457
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Speaker 1: say this, everybody ranked higher than them, every single one

458
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Speaker 1: of them, do not have as challenging a path as USC.

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Speaker 1: No one will play three ranked teams No one and

460
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Speaker 1: not even close. So to have to play U C.

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Speaker 1: L A and a rivalry game coming off a loss,

462
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Speaker 1: you'll get their best effort, having to play Notre Dame

463
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Speaker 1: seemingly playing their best football, running the football extremely well,

464
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Speaker 1: and then having to play or again rematch against you

465
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Speaker 1: to thinks you get crazy, Maybe it's you dub like

466
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Speaker 1: who who knows who they'll have to play, but they

467
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Speaker 1: will be challenged in a way that I think it's

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Speaker 1: a walk if they're able to win out to go

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Speaker 1: into the playoff, I really do. Yeah, nobody else has

470
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Speaker 1: nine conference games or at least two of the conferences don't.

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Speaker 1: No one has this challenging of a path. And you know,

472
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Speaker 1: I'm a fan of t C and Sunny Dicks. I

473
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Speaker 1: hope they go and defeated. And I'd love to see SC. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think has a good chance. Right, well, how I mean,

475
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Speaker 1: what else you're supposed to do? Beat everybody? Didn't play?

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Speaker 1: State's no good? Um? I think this this weekend. I

477
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Speaker 1: think they have Baylor. That's gonna be tricky. Baylor coming

478
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Speaker 1: off a law similar to U C l A. Maybe

479
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Speaker 1: looking ahead, um quickly, USC Notre Dame is Notre Dame good.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we'll talk about losses to Stanford and Marshall,

481
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Speaker 1: but they did smashed both teams going to the a

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Speaker 1: c C Championship whatever that's worth. Played the Ohio State

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Speaker 1: tough two months ago, and you know Syracuse win was

484
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Speaker 1: kind of a good one. I don't know, are they good? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: It's really fun conversation. Like I'm a believer that in

486
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Speaker 1: every college locker room it's pretty much eighteen to twenty two,

487
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Speaker 1: and every week you get something different. And I think

488
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Speaker 1: we have this expectation and a standard based on historical

489
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Speaker 1: is that like Bama will come out and just be

490
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Speaker 1: dialed every week or Notre Dame will just be Notre

491
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Speaker 1: Dame every week. And the reality is like you kind

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Speaker 1: of go up and down a little bit with this.

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Speaker 1: Jen With that being said, knowing what the playoff committee

494
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Speaker 1: is doing, like, if you're going to count everything, you

495
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Speaker 1: gotta count everything, right, So to your point, you've got

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Speaker 1: to count Ohio State almost losing a Notre Name. So

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Speaker 1: how do you value Notre Dame? Right? If you value

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame a lot, then you got to count. Let's

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Speaker 1: just say it's a two lost team in the Pac

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Speaker 1: twelve beating Stanford, right, because Stanford beat Notre Dame. Cal

501
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Speaker 1: play Notre Dame. I mean they didn't get a favorable

502
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Speaker 1: call on a field goal if you remember the kind

503
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Speaker 1: of the phantom off side is called the change the

504
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Speaker 1: direction of that game in week four of the season

505
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Speaker 1: or three or four of the season. So I'm a

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Speaker 1: fan of at this point count it all. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say that they're good. They're

508
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Speaker 1: playing much better than they have. They found their flow

509
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Speaker 1: with Drew Pine at the quarterback, They found the run game.

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Speaker 1: You know, they're working the play action game, and I

511
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Speaker 1: think they're legit top team, and I hope they keep

512
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Speaker 1: getting gassed up to your point earlier off. If SC wins,

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Speaker 1: give him a top twelve, Notre Dame like whatever. But

514
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Speaker 1: because if we're gonna count it all, I think I'm

515
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Speaker 1: a big fan of let's count it all versus I

516
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Speaker 1: just want to count Georgia beating Tennessee and Oregon. Well

517
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Speaker 1: you have to count like a near loss to Kent

518
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Speaker 1: State and Missouri too, Like you just gotta count at all.

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Speaker 1: You gotta count Austin p playing Alabama this weekend in

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Speaker 1: advance of their rivalry game. You know you just have

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Speaker 1: to count. Um. I guess the last question. If I

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Speaker 1: said to you Georgia was the number one seed, Michigan

523
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Speaker 1: Ohio State winner is the number two seed TCU with

524
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Speaker 1: three USC is four. Is that that's reasonable? Right? I

525
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Speaker 1: don't think USC can leap frog TCU, even though they're

526
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Speaker 1: playing three straight ranked teams. Well, I don't know. Could

527
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Speaker 1: they leap frog? T see you? I think that that's

528
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Speaker 1: going to be really fun to watch, because again, the

529
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Speaker 1: Committee has consistently said over years that they value wins. Right,

530
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Speaker 1: USC has lost is one point on the road to

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Speaker 1: the defending champ who might be in Oregon this weekend,

532
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Speaker 1: who might find their way in the Pact hole title

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Speaker 1: the USC might have to avenge. They trailed that game

534
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Speaker 1: for like seconds, right, Yeah, they had a chance to

535
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Speaker 1: blow that thing open. They just couldn't finish. It's a

536
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Speaker 1: great game, um, you know. And I think the officials

537
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Speaker 1: went both ways. I know, I see fans, are you

538
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Speaker 1: know they leant up the officials a loot in that one,

539
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Speaker 1: But everybody had their fair share, and I think it

540
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Speaker 1: always evens it itself out. But we'll find out like

541
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Speaker 1: the value of the league, and that's what to me.

542
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Speaker 1: The thing I noticed in the first CFP ranking when

543
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Speaker 1: the chair of the committee said we don't value conferences,

544
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Speaker 1: we value teams. Well, I think at this point of

545
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Speaker 1: the rankings, I think conferences get valued a little bit.

546
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Speaker 1: And I do think that we'll see with sc like

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Speaker 1: are there winds value just in the last three or

548
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Speaker 1: are they valuing the conference and the conference that they're

549
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Speaker 1: in and what the conference stands for over the Big

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Speaker 1: twelve for instance, as a conference because it's not as

551
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Speaker 1: top heavy as the pack is right now. So I'd

552
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Speaker 1: be happy if it was four. If it was three. Whatever, Well,

553
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Speaker 1: I'm sure you'd rather take three. You don't want to

554
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Speaker 1: face Georgia and the opener. I it's interesting though, now

555
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 1: that we've talked about it. I mean, who's the second

556
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Speaker 1: best team in the in the Big twelve and it's

557
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Speaker 1: it's certainly is not Texas. Yea, who's the second best

558
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Speaker 1: team in America? Oklahoma State? Maybe I don't, I don't,

559
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: I'm in Oklahoma. Stinks, I don't. I don't know that

560
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Speaker 1: the Big towel is not strong. So maybe TCU gets

561
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Speaker 1: bumped to four. USC would definitely have better wins than

562
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Speaker 1: then TCU, So, uh, it gets interesting. Fox Sports Radio

563
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566
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Speaker 1: to listen live. So you did write a book on quarterback,

567
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Speaker 1: so you know them as well as anybody, especially the

568
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Speaker 1: guys coming out, So you know they have me do

569
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Speaker 1: mock drafts or Fox Sports dot Com. I did one

570
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Speaker 1: earlier this month. I had C. J. Stroud going first. Okay,

571
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Speaker 1: you know Stroud, well, Bryce Young going second. A lot

572
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: of people did not like Will Levis going third, and

573
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Speaker 1: he has struggled here down the stretch. I'm curious when

574
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Speaker 1: you were writing the book on these guys, like three

575
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Speaker 1: or four or five years ago, when they were coming

576
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Speaker 1: up in high school. I mean, Yogi, I don't know

577
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Speaker 1: if any of these guys are great. I'll just be blunt.

578
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Speaker 1: I like them. Stroud has look good. Bryce Young is small,

579
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Speaker 1: but it's look good. Hendon Hooker is a guy on

580
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Speaker 1: the rise. I don't want to make a Levis Like

581
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: every year, Yogi, we will say, oh man, this quarterback

582
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Speaker 1: track classic gonna be good, It's gonna be strong, and

583
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: guys just fall out of The more you see them,

584
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Speaker 1: the less enamored you become. I don't know, where are

585
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Speaker 1: you on this upcoming draft with a quarterback from college football. Yeah,

586
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Speaker 1: I loved what you just said, because that was one

587
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Speaker 1: of the main reasons we wrote the book. Because you know,

588
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Speaker 1: there's twenty two positions on the field, seemingly, and the

589
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: only one that gets talked about before the draft is

590
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Speaker 1: the quarterback. Right like, it gets beat up, it gets

591
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Speaker 1: blown out of proportion, way too much hype. Guys usually

592
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: get drafted higher than maybe they should be. Uh, there's

593
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Speaker 1: always a need in certain teams and you don't want

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Speaker 1: to miss on. I can't miss guy or a guy

595
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Speaker 1: you see under the radar. I don't know, man, I

596
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Speaker 1: would net out here. I would add Michael Panics Jr.

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Speaker 1: To your list number one. Who whoa whoa whoa as

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Speaker 1: a potential high like first or second round pick. Yes

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Speaker 1: to trust me on November fifteen, let's revisit it and

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Speaker 1: February March post combine. Michael Paniccks Jr. Will make every

601
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Speaker 1: single throw that all the quarterbacks you reference can make.

602
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: Michael Panics Jr. Has played in you know, obviously multiple systems.

603
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Speaker 1: He's now at Washington is the nation's leading pastor. Uh

604
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Speaker 1: they I think their offense over their offense or explosive place.

605
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Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta be accurate down the field. He's

606
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Speaker 1: played in crazy weather. Go watch the Oregan State game

607
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Speaker 1: a little over a week ago. Game winning drive in

608
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Speaker 1: thirty plus mile an hour wins and he's all accurate

609
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Speaker 1: quarterback on either side, balls floating everywhere. Um. He's really

610
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Speaker 1: a mature guy who's committed to Tennessee coming out of

611
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Speaker 1: high school in Tampa. They dropped him when there was

612
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Speaker 1: a coaching change. He goes to Indiana, never made it

613
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Speaker 1: through six games without being injured, and he transferred out

614
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Speaker 1: to Washington with Calon Dabor. And look, if they went out,

615
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Speaker 1: I'm calling their game this weekend, and they win this weekending,

616
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Speaker 1: it's Colorado. Then they beat Washington State in the rivalry

617
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Speaker 1: game the Apple Cup. There's a chance that they penning

618
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Speaker 1: a couple upsets, go to Vegas for the title game.

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Speaker 1: He's on that stage. He should be a Heisman candidate.

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Speaker 1: So so let me let me ask you. I'm seeing

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Speaker 1: two a c L injuries and another injury he was

622
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Speaker 1: wrecked by COVID. Is he almost undervalued at this point?

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Speaker 1: Or do you think the injuries will just be too

624
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Speaker 1: much for NFL teams when they do the medicals. No.

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Speaker 1: I to me, it was more about like anticipation. Can

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Speaker 1: he make it through a year? You know, That's what

627
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Speaker 1: everybody wanted to know. It was crazy this year it

628
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Speaker 1: was week six because again he only made it through

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Speaker 1: six games. He never made it through six full games.

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Speaker 1: And I think it was a week six or seven

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Speaker 1: against Arizona State. He takes a shot of targeting shot

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Speaker 1: on the last drive of the game to the throat

633
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Speaker 1: and he hits his voice box and he can't talk,

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Speaker 1: and he's not. You know, if you ever got hit

635
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Speaker 1: in the throat, you kind of freak out a little bit.

636
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: And he went through a lot, just kind of talking

637
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: to our crew and even excuse me in his postgame

638
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: interview about it, knowing like, man, this was the same week,

639
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,719
Speaker 1: like I always get hurt. Right, Well, he obviously has

640
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: made it through that and he's playing at a crazy level,

641
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: led his team to win over top ten Oregon last weekend.

642
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,239
Speaker 1: And I'm just I just think he's going to be

643
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: the guy that will climb up and I think he'll play.

644
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: I think he'll play in the NFL. Now, I'm not

645
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: saying the other guys won't. Bryce Young and c J

646
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: are different players. Bryce, to me, I've often comped him

647
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,719
Speaker 1: to Steph Curry even in high school. He's a point guard, right,

648
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: He's just dishing and dealing, and you know he's playing

649
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: from the gun. He moves well, he sees the games

650
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: so well. More and more I talk to NFL people,

651
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: They're like, yeah, there's a lot of pastors in college,

652
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: but how many guys see it? Meaning they see the

653
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: movement through all the chaos. Right, there's a bunch of

654
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: jerseys a bunch of colors, a bunch of hands. But

655
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: they still see coverage, they still see route combinations, they

656
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: still can anticipate guys coming open. Bryce is awesome at

657
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: that uh c J. Different guy physically, different tools, competitively,

658
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,719
Speaker 1: different different style of competitively. He's got some stuff to him.

659
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: He's been through a tough road. I was with him

660
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: the day he exploded on the recruiting scene at the

661
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: Elite eleven he won the m v P. He was

662
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: in Bryce Young and Drew Pines group. We put him

663
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: in a group together where they had to vote four

664
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: or against one another for the m v P. So

665
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: we saw it at sixteen. Like the emotional intelligence he's had.

666
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: I've been around him with his competitive temperament. Both of

667
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: those guys were counselors at the Elite eleven this summer.

668
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think you can go wrong. It's

669
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: just gonna be like what do you like vanilla strawberry? Like,

670
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: what do you what? What do you like small and

671
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: point guard ish or do you like big act your

672
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: pocket past or um and a guy that can move

673
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: like that. That's what I think it will come down to.

674
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: And this will be debated a ton, but do not

675
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: sleep trust me, do not sleep on Michael Panics Jr.

676
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: And I hope we talked in like a couple of

677
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: years about him because I think he's gonna play man.

678
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: I think he's in NFL starting quarterback. Yeah, no, he

679
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: I mean definitely has. The lefty thing is interesting. Um

680
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: there for whatever reason, there haven't been a ton of

681
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: lefty superstar. I mean there's been good lefty quarterbacks, but

682
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,239
Speaker 1: I don't think there's been a million of you know,

683
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: I don't know why why that is? You you know, quarterbacks?

684
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: Any any idea what how that happened? Well, there's not

685
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: a lot in college if you think about it, like

686
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: who's the top three lefties that you think about? Kate Liner?

687
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: Of course? Where else does your head go? Like you're

688
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: kind of like, okay, yeah, like he's coaching in the

689
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: NFL now, you know, like he's in his fifties. Like

690
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: it's it's hard to think about now. When I talk

691
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: to college coaches a lot of times, they'll say, I

692
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: don't know if I really want to recruit it left

693
00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: it because then I gotta change my whole drill. And

694
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,719
Speaker 1: you know, like if you got four rights in one

695
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: left in a quarterback room. Like four guys do a drill,

696
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: one guy one way, the other idea is that the

697
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 1: other that you have to obviously, you know, be really

698
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,399
Speaker 1: enamored with him. I've seen guys, though with the elite leven,

699
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: I've seen talented lefties coming out of high school. Shane

700
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 1: Morris is one that immediately comes to mind. They went

701
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 1: to Michigan, ended up getting hurt. He's he's in the

702
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 1: five Star Quarterback book. Just gives great insight into his

703
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 1: path and how he's processed life in it. But you're right,

704
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of them. But I just think

705
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: that his and I met with him a bunch. I

706
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: just had him on my podcast. He's got a lot

707
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: to him. I think he's just going to be one

708
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: of those guys that climbs, kind of like Malik. Willis climbed,

709
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: kept climbing and now he's starting like Tyler He's he's leak,

710
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: was freaking. He doesn't look like you can throw the

711
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: football in the NFL. Honestly, I don't know that he's ready.

712
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: It's early. But Pentico, come out. You team throwing thirty

713
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: times in a game, no problem. Like, I don't know

714
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,919
Speaker 1: that Willis has a confidence yet do you know? I don't.

715
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: I got to know him at the Elite eleven. But

716
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: I'll be honest. In the season, regular season, I don't

717
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: watch enough NFL to really be dialed, Like I get

718
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: my NFL fixed. Come no, like December four and we're

719
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: done with championship weekend. It's a good time to pick

720
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: it up. So for two thousand twenty three week to go,

721
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: I'm sorry two thousand four weeken pencil and Caleb Williams

722
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: for number one. Right, I'll tell you Jay's here. We've said,

723
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,439
Speaker 1: We've said this many years. Like Spencer Rattler, remember that guy. Yeah,

724
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: I love Spencer. Yeah, I don't know what. I don't

725
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: know what happened to him. How's it doing in South Carolina?

726
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: He said? Okay, you know he's he said he got

727
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: a fresh Stardi's happy like it's hard good coach, Like,

728
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: I mean, the part of why we wrote the book

729
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: was because all these guys get labeled. To your point, right,

730
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: bo Nick's got labeled, Spencer has been labeled, Caleb's been

731
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 1: They've all been labeled by somebody outside of themselves. You're

732
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: a five star, you're the next great thing, and it's

733
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: hard to live up to it. It's hard to manage,

734
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: it's hard to deal with it. There's a lot that

735
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 1: goes in it, which is why our books like six pages. Right.

736
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: But to that point, I'll say this, I've seen probably

737
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: nine seven quarterbacks over the last almost twenty years coming

738
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: out of high school that are special in person. Caleb

739
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: is in the one percent. Caleb is the one percent.

740
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: So I'm assuming Trevor Lawrence is in there. So here

741
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: I'll give you my list from a Ladle eleven, which

742
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: is a premier high school quarterback camp. Jamis. When I

743
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: saw him, it was like our staff, it was it

744
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,439
Speaker 1: was evident he a chance to be special. Trevor Yes,

745
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: justin fields, Yes, dual sport athlete, so studious in the

746
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: room to a tongue of Iloa. Probably the best hit

747
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: factor I've ever seen, meaning the best of the last

748
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: twenty years. So this is how I defined the We

749
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: did a whole documentary on it where he's in it.

750
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: You check it out on YouTube where if you walk

751
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: in a room, people feel your presence and you make

752
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: them better. Who is a guy that isn't gonna say

753
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,919
Speaker 1: a curse? We're probably not gonna go party with you,

754
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 1: do anything outlandish off the field. But he can connect

755
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: with a guy, an old lineman from Nebraska or a

756
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 1: running back from South Florida and everything in between. Like

757
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: he was just always able to connect. He's so likable. Um,

758
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: and he's a gamer, and he's insanely competitive. Like look

759
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: I again, I know, like the numbers maybe don't bear out.

760
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: No no, no no, I'm just when when you think

761
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: of the alpha, and I heard the stories about Mark

762
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: Sanchez and I've tried to talk to you about it.

763
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna come on the podcast next week.

764
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: But he was thought of as the alpha. Everybody gravitates

765
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 1: towards him. He's cool. Uh you know, Mark Sanchez is

766
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: like a big dude. People like it. But two is

767
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 1: not like the huge guy. He's not the big, strapping

768
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: guy with the booming voice. Who's gonna He's gonna yell

769
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: and people are gonna listen. Right Well, those personalities actually

770
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: Miami and one another. And I coach Mark at SC.

771
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: I know Mark since he was sixteen. Um. Their stature

772
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: isn't the same physically, but in terms of they make

773
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: the room feel light like any like the walk on

774
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: to the five star prospect feels like they can talk

775
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: to him more importantly, Mark or two would go talk

776
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: to them, you know, like they make everybody feel like

777
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: they have a voice. They're extremely approachable, uh, insanely competitive. Yeah,

778
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: very similar. Like I think most quarterbacks are pleasers by nature, right,

779
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: Like they want the quarterback coaches say they did a

780
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: good job. They want the room to feel right. I

781
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: think those guys have that trade in common too, and

782
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: I think all quarterbacks inherently have that. Uh they want

783
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: the room to write, and both of them make it better.

784
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,720
Speaker 1: I've seen it. I just remember being at the Elite

785
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 1: eleven at the opening, which is the top hundred sixty

786
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: players in all of high school football go to Nike's campus,

787
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 1: and it's every personality you can imagine, and everybody's a

788
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: four and five star recruit. And I've seen quarterbacks get

789
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: eaten up by those personalities, and I've seen quarterbacks control

790
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: it without being controlling. And Ta is the best I've

791
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: ever seen in that regard. That's good to hear. I listen.

792
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: I like to it. People think I hate him just

793
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,479
Speaker 1: because I don't think he's a great NFL quarterback yet,

794
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: but it's weird. You know the Miami Dolphins fans are

795
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 1: very insecure with with everything. But anyways, all right, Yogi,

796
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: we've kept you too long. Great stuff. Um, I look

797
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: forward to you calling games. You know, we definitely have

798
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 1: to have you back on before the draft. I like

799
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: this Michael Pennics nugget. I'm gonna have to uh, I'm

800
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: gonna have to remember this one that that. Uh. I

801
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 1: like that because listen, I you like a guy coming

802
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 1: out of nowhere to potentially rise up the charts and

803
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: be like the second round Steel who becomes pretty damn good.

804
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 1: Well good, how about this you just said coming out

805
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: of nowhere? He just wasn't on the preseason watch list.

806
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: This dudes leading the nation in passing, you know what

807
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like, like, but I think that's the point

808
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 1: of husband finalist. You know, he's not gonna I don't

809
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: think he's making any mock draft. I don't follow really

810
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: any mock drafts outside of mine and you know Shaan Keiper,

811
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: But I don't think i've seen Panics. Have you seen

812
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 1: him more on any lists? Again, I haven't looked. Then,

813
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: the first one I actually go to is is yours,

814
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: and then DJ's yeah, yeah, come on. That's right. Daniel

815
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: Jeremiah obviously another one I checked. Um, he's he's come

816
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: on the podcast. I don't does he have Penics high?

817
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. I haven't I haven't looked. Now I'm thinking, hey,

818
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: maybe maybe the Jets take Michael Pennics in the second round.

819
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: Not that I'm out on Zach Will. You don't get

820
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: Derek Carr. By the way, did you have Zack Wilson

821
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: at Elite Levin? No? We had him at a regional UM,

822
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: but I stopped going to the regionals a couple years

823
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: ago because I'm doing spring football, so I never really

824
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: got to see him in person. What did he not

825
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 1: make a lead of eleven? He didn't make the finals,

826
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: and I don't know what the reason was, Like oftentimes,

827
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: like we take twenty kids in the finals and then

828
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 1: like one through twenty five ends up being like first

829
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: round draft pick or whomever. So he was in that

830
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: that category, but I never saw him that justin fields

831
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: really on fire. Um, Trevor Lawrence playing well. Mac Jones

832
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: never made a leadle eleven? Did he? Yeah? Of course

833
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: he was a commit to Kentucky. Yeah, Gez not not

834
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: a huge Mac Jones guy. But uh, we'll see if

835
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: he gets pulled this weekend for Bailey's Happy Pig. Let's

836
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: think about it so much, I'll be locked him. But

837
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: there's so much before I leave, Like, and this is again,

838
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 1: while we wrote the book, there's so much that goes

839
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: into success. Yeah, you know, like I believe in my

840
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 1: heart of hearts it's Sam Donald could be a very

841
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: successful NFL quarterback. I really believe it. I believed that

842
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: since the moment we met him, with his makeup, with

843
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Speaker 1: his work ethically everything. But he went to two places

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Speaker 1: that seemingly weren't that organized right, Like again, I definitely

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Speaker 1: were not well in Carolina fired their coach. Like I

846
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Speaker 1: just say that of like not being in the inner

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Speaker 1: workings of any of those places. But same thing in college,

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Speaker 1: Why doesn't your favorite college recruit work out well? Oftentimes?

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Speaker 1: Like there's a lot that goes into that, whether it's grades, socially, homesick,

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Speaker 1: talent system, relationship with play caller, Like, there's so many

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Speaker 1: things that have to hit for you to hit. And

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Speaker 1: that's why I like, we're trying to redefine the idea

853
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Speaker 1: of bust because all busted, Like, am I a bust?

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Speaker 1: If I don't meet your pre draft prediction. I hope not,

855
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Speaker 1: Like I could still have a life and a job

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Speaker 1: and a family and find success. And am I bust? Well,

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Speaker 1: you know who the guys aren't bus is basically anyone

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Speaker 1: drafted after the first round who doesn't. Well, you can't

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Speaker 1: be a bust if you were draft out of the

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Speaker 1: second or third round, right, So it's a it's a

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Speaker 1: little silly, you're right, all right, thanks, all right, all right,

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Speaker 1: Yogi takes a lot, man, take it easy.