WEBVTT - TechStuff Looks Back at 2013 Part Two

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<v Speaker 1>Get in text with technology with text stuff from dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey everyone, and welcome to tex Stuff. I am Jonathan

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<v Speaker 1>Strickland and I'm Lauren voc Obam. And you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry guys in our last episode we left

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<v Speaker 1>you halfway through two thousand thirteen, But don't worry. We're

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<v Speaker 1>back and we're here to pick you up and carry

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<v Speaker 1>you the rest of the way, because otherwise, how would

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<v Speaker 1>you ever know what would have happened in the past

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<v Speaker 1>six months of your life? Right? I mean clearly you

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<v Speaker 1>were sitting on the edge of your seat. How is

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand thir taking It turned out? Well, June follow me,

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<v Speaker 1>Yes it did, So we're picking up in June two thirteen. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the first story we have is one that

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<v Speaker 1>amused me because I was very curious to see how

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<v Speaker 1>it would play out. And I'm still perplexed. Um, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about the my Space relaunch. So my Space

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<v Speaker 1>obviously a huge social media platform back in the day. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think as of what would that have been like

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand Yeah, Like you know, there was a time

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<v Speaker 1>where everyone was on my Space. Facebook had just started

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<v Speaker 1>as yeah, and and Facebook was just for college students

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<v Speaker 1>when it first started, I couldn't. By that time, I

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<v Speaker 1>was out of college, so I was not I was

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<v Speaker 1>not admitted into Facebook. I didn't fit that that criterionographic. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I was, but I was on my Space, and

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<v Speaker 1>I remember seeing Facebook opening up to the public and

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<v Speaker 1>thinking this upstart social platforms. Never, why are they even trying?

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<v Speaker 1>My Space already dominates the space. But then over time,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I got a little tired of everyone turning

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<v Speaker 1>their profile pages into sparkly unicorns that play music at

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<v Speaker 1>you no matter what you try to do. That was

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<v Speaker 1>the best part of my Space. Yeah, when it became

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<v Speaker 1>Geo City's part two. So anyway, long story short, they

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<v Speaker 1>decided to uh, new owners came in and bought up

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<v Speaker 1>the company. They rebranded, they relaunched, They had a twenty

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<v Speaker 1>million all our ad campaign. Yeah, and it's really more

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<v Speaker 1>about I mean, it was always a big place for

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<v Speaker 1>music discovery, but now that's almost all it's about. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's just about music discovery. But I don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>that many people care about it. I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>a little it was too little, too late. You had

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<v Speaker 1>already lost a great deal of your audience, and the

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<v Speaker 1>ones who remain are are die hards, but you're not really.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that my space is attracting new audience

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<v Speaker 1>the way they need to. I think that I think

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<v Speaker 1>that young bands are probably going to something like Tumbler

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<v Speaker 1>or SoundCloud or making their own um, their own blog

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<v Speaker 1>to launch that where you can get all that stuff

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<v Speaker 1>and or or a little bit on Facebook. Still. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's a that was a tough one. Also, in June,

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<v Speaker 1>that's when we first learned about Google's Project Loon. We

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<v Speaker 1>talked about, right, those are those um kind of internet

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<v Speaker 1>weather balloons. Yeah, balloons that provide WiFi to remote locations

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<v Speaker 1>and they float in the stratsphere to do it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>We did a whole episode on that on November twenty

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<v Speaker 1>called The Louns at Google. If you would like to

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<v Speaker 1>go check that out. Yeah. My favorite part of that

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<v Speaker 1>story is the Australian couple who were one of the

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<v Speaker 1>early early alpha testers, who were approached by the Google

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<v Speaker 1>men in black. Can we put this on your house?

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<v Speaker 1>We can't tell you what it is or what it

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<v Speaker 1>does or how long it will be there, And they said, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>apparently it's very laid back on the outback. So uh,

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<v Speaker 1>then we've got another big story. This is really we

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<v Speaker 1>joked last last in the last episode about the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>story of the year being Gift or Jeff. This I

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<v Speaker 1>think is truly the biggest story of the year. Would

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<v Speaker 1>be hard to say it's not. Absolutely. The ramifications of

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<v Speaker 1>this one are are huge. We are, of course, talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the story that was first broken by The Guardian

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<v Speaker 1>and the Washington Post that coordinated together to reveal that

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<v Speaker 1>the n s A was having a surveillance program that

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<v Speaker 1>stretched across the Internet and was incredibly deep, to the

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<v Speaker 1>point where it was it was farming out information from

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<v Speaker 1>major providers like Google. It was you know, essentially tapping

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<v Speaker 1>into that stream and seeing all the stuff that was

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<v Speaker 1>going through UM in an attempt, at least from the

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<v Speaker 1>NSA's point of view, to stop foreign threats against the

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<v Speaker 1>United States. The idea of being that this was really

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<v Speaker 1>only supposed to apply to communications between agents of foreign nations,

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<v Speaker 1>whether that is a citizen who's working on the United

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<v Speaker 1>States is and working on behalf of a foreign nation,

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<v Speaker 1>or some person of uh, you know, some somewhat a

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<v Speaker 1>foreigner who was working on behalf of a nation. UM. However,

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<v Speaker 1>because of the way the Internet works and the way

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<v Speaker 1>that data centers work. We it's really a quite widespread

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<v Speaker 1>surveillance program. And not only that, but they have a

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<v Speaker 1>very low threshold of certainty that they felt they needed

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<v Speaker 1>to hit in order for them to identify someone as

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<v Speaker 1>a foreign agent. In other words, you know, like if

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<v Speaker 1>they felt fift sure that someone was a foreign agent,

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<v Speaker 1>they would go ahead of start, which yeah, they they

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<v Speaker 1>instructed their their operators to go a little more than

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<v Speaker 1>a coin flip. And on top of that, there were

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<v Speaker 1>some stories about n s A employees abusing the system,

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<v Speaker 1>people who are using it to spy on like ex

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<v Speaker 1>girlfriends or ex boyfriends, or people who were using it

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<v Speaker 1>for other means, where you know, clearly this is not

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<v Speaker 1>a foreign agent. This is people being people. And even

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<v Speaker 1>this is a good example of how even if your

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<v Speaker 1>system was designed to do a specific thing really well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really only as good as the people who are

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<v Speaker 1>using it. So even if we were to take the

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<v Speaker 1>n s A at their word that everything was on

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<v Speaker 1>the up and up and everything is legal, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>questionable to according to your point of view. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing was approved by a secret court whose

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<v Speaker 1>findings are under under a court order, so that you

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<v Speaker 1>can't see them, you know, we we aren't allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>actually look in on the process, but we're told that

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<v Speaker 1>the process works. It's a complicated and frankly terrified ing story,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's one that's played out over the entire year

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<v Speaker 1>since then. Yeah, and and especially I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the fact that we learned about all of this

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<v Speaker 1>from a former n s A contractor, Edward Snowden, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of proves the point of of the system is only

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<v Speaker 1>as good its operators. Yes, because Snowdon was not like

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<v Speaker 1>an n Essay spy. Snowdon was someone who worked on

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<v Speaker 1>the system side of it, saw stuff that he felt

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<v Speaker 1>the public need to. Yeah, he's he was like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is not right, and I don't know how to act

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<v Speaker 1>on this other than to hand this information over to

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<v Speaker 1>the press. And so that's what Snowton did. And of course,

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<v Speaker 1>depending upon how you view Snowden, you may think that

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<v Speaker 1>he's a trader or you may think he's a hero.

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<v Speaker 1>He's currently living in temporary asylum in Russia because he's

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<v Speaker 1>essentially in exile. If he were to come back to

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<v Speaker 1>the United States, he would immediately be arrested. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>complicated story, that's still playing out, and it's it's got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of ramifications outside of just this story. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's raised awareness about everything from online privacy to what

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<v Speaker 1>is our expectation for uh for our government looking in

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<v Speaker 1>on not just US, but other countries, other countries of

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<v Speaker 1>course looking at the United States saying even if all

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<v Speaker 1>of your citizens are cool with this, we're totally not

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<v Speaker 1>cool with this. Yeah, and especially since you know they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're monitoring so much information from so many people

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<v Speaker 1>that that use services that either porth to America are

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<v Speaker 1>owned by American companies that that normal citizens in many

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<v Speaker 1>other countries are being affected by this as well. So, yeah, big,

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<v Speaker 1>big story. Yeah, we we did. We did a two

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<v Speaker 1>part about prison, which is that that main program that

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<v Speaker 1>the n s A is running. Those episodes ran on

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<v Speaker 1>July first. Excellent, so go check those out if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear more about this story. Next, we have

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<v Speaker 1>a little more lighthearted story. That was when the Uyah

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<v Speaker 1>console launched on Amazon for it sold out basically immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh So, this was the console that had a Kickstarter

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<v Speaker 1>campaign in two thousand twelve and was overwhell mainly successful.

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<v Speaker 1>This was one of those stories like the Pebbles smartwatch

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<v Speaker 1>that just you know, it just skyrocket and it really

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<v Speaker 1>hit a nerve. However, from the at least the initial

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<v Speaker 1>reviews of the system, a lot of people felt that um,

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<v Speaker 1>it had a lot of potential but didn't live up

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<v Speaker 1>to it yet it was a little bit half banked.

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<v Speaker 1>So it may it may turn out that in the

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<v Speaker 1>long run it turns into a console that people but

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<v Speaker 1>are consider one of the beloved consoles. But right now,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean a lot of those earlier reviews were pretty harsh.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember even seeing an unboxing video where a person

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<v Speaker 1>unboxed and showed it off to the camera and then

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<v Speaker 1>immediately put it in a garbage can. Yeah, which I

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<v Speaker 1>thought was you know that, come on, stay classy. But

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<v Speaker 1>still you get the wa wait, we're on the internet.

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<v Speaker 1>I do you know how the internet works? What's the

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<v Speaker 1>what's the internet? I'm still on the arpanet and no

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<v Speaker 1>one talks to me. I think I've isolated your problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's move on to July, shall we. Yes? Um that's

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<v Speaker 1>when the director of Microsoft's Xbox program, Don Matric, left

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<v Speaker 1>the company to become the new CEO of Zenga. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>which was one of those things that caused a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of analysts to say, wait what because because because Xbox,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, one like arguably at that point in the year,

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<v Speaker 1>the largest gaming company. Yeah, I mean Xbox had been

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<v Speaker 1>selling like crazy. Some people would argue that the Xbox

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<v Speaker 1>division was the one division in Microsoft that really was

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<v Speaker 1>doing a great job. And then Matric leaves that to

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<v Speaker 1>go help Zinga, which had was a company that was

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<v Speaker 1>known to be in a kind of weird spiral continual

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<v Speaker 1>weird state of flux and Zinca of course, being that

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<v Speaker 1>mobile gaming app company, um, that that has done things

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<v Speaker 1>like Farmville and Words Friends, Yeah, stuff that is on

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<v Speaker 1>mobile platforms and also on on social media platforms. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Zinga's old CEO actually essentially fired himself and

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<v Speaker 1>then hired Metric, So that was an interesting story. And

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<v Speaker 1>then uh, you know Xbox got a new director. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be Julie Larson Green. She is officially the

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<v Speaker 1>executive vice President of Devices and Studios, which means that

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<v Speaker 1>she's in charge of all Xbox hardware, devices, games, music,

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<v Speaker 1>and entertainment. Um. This was scene is a pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>choice by most people because she, I mean she she

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<v Speaker 1>got her start at Microsoft overseeing the development of Visual

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<v Speaker 1>c plus plus. She helped create the ribbon for Office

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<v Speaker 1>two thousands. She's the previous co leader of Windows. She

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<v Speaker 1>led the planning on Windows seven. Um, so she had

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<v Speaker 1>some chops, some serious chops. Let me guess what the

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<v Speaker 1>problem was. She was a she. She was a she

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<v Speaker 1>and some really sexist gamers and she, I mean, she

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<v Speaker 1>happens to be like more or less like symmetrical in

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<v Speaker 1>her face, and so therefore a lot of really sexist

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<v Speaker 1>gamers were like that pretty lady can't possibly be a

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<v Speaker 1>gamer or know enough about games to do stuff and things.

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<v Speaker 1>And to be fair, she's she's self professed like not

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<v Speaker 1>huge into gaming. But I don't think we're not talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the business side of things. It's it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>the president of the Xbox division is the person who

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<v Speaker 1>decides which games get made and which ones don't. This

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<v Speaker 1>is someone who's got a vision for the overall consoles direction.

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<v Speaker 1>And also, I would like to posit that if in

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<v Speaker 1>fact we chose Xbox is president by like the person

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<v Speaker 1>who got the best gamer score. Uh yeah, it would

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<v Speaker 1>be terrible. These would be these companies would be in shambles.

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<v Speaker 1>So come on, guys, all right, at any rate. So

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<v Speaker 1>Also in July, Google unveiled Chrome Cast, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>cute little dongle that can connect to a television's h

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<v Speaker 1>d M I port and over WiFi. It can pick

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<v Speaker 1>up signals from your laptop or mobile device and stream

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<v Speaker 1>from the content on your computer or a mobile device

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<v Speaker 1>to the television. So, in other words, if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have something like a game console or some other set

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<v Speaker 1>top box that brings in web content, or you've got

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<v Speaker 1>one but it's really limited, like it only brings in

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<v Speaker 1>web con tip from very specific sources, this would give

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<v Speaker 1>you more flexibility. I actually own one of these, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've got a lot of different options when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to getting web content on my TV because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you know this. I like technology,

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<v Speaker 1>so but I got one of these, and it turns

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<v Speaker 1>out that I love this because if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>look for something specific on let's say YouTube, Let's say,

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<v Speaker 1>as you want to you want to look at a

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube video on your large screen, UM, this would be

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<v Speaker 1>a way of being able to do a search very quickly,

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<v Speaker 1>whereas a lot of the different consoles and set top

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<v Speaker 1>boxes out there have very clunky search features. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>not using something that has voice command where you can say,

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<v Speaker 1>look for that funny video where the cat falls asleep,

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<v Speaker 1>then you're gonna have some trouble. But if you're able

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<v Speaker 1>to go to your laptop and just do a quick

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<v Speaker 1>search by typing out a few keywords and then casting it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, streaming it from your computer to the TV,

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<v Speaker 1>it makes it much simpler. And it's also a super

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<v Speaker 1>relatively speaking, a super cheap device. Yeah, it retails for

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<v Speaker 1>like thirty five bucks. I think thirty five bucks. I

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<v Speaker 1>was on a waiting list because by the time I

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<v Speaker 1>ordered it, it it already I had been announced and then

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<v Speaker 1>initially sold out. But even on the waiting list, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I had to wait maybe two weeks and then

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<v Speaker 1>I got mine and that was when it first came out.

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<v Speaker 1>So speaking of waiting lists, though, hey, oh yeah, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a story that fills me with joy. And this

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<v Speaker 1>one was not perhaps one of the largest stories of

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<v Speaker 1>the year, but but it is very, very close to

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan's heart if you've listened to that. I can't remember

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<v Speaker 1>what episode it was where I totally lost it on

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<v Speaker 1>this particular story. I do remember doing that, and whether

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<v Speaker 1>we edited most of that out or not. But but

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<v Speaker 1>in in July, best Buy began stalking Pebble smart watches,

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<v Speaker 1>um uh, slightly before all of the Kickstarter backers of

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<v Speaker 1>of the Pedal Project had received their own right, I

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<v Speaker 1>was not a Kickstarter project backer, so I was not

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<v Speaker 1>expecting pre order. Yeah I was. I was a pre order,

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I I like to think that when you

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<v Speaker 1>pre order, I'm gonna have the same brand. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it. You pre

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<v Speaker 1>ordered a special color and they had not manufactured that

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<v Speaker 1>color yet, that the ones available best Buy were only

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<v Speaker 1>the black. That's true. And I got the I got

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<v Speaker 1>the very style. Only that on the back of it

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<v Speaker 1>it says Kickstarter Edition. And I was not a Kickstarter backer,

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<v Speaker 1>and yet I got a Kickstarter edition watch, so I

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<v Speaker 1>cannot really complain. Also, I love that watch. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>wearing it right now. I accidentally left it at home.

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<v Speaker 1>I had that he usually is I usually do wear it. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. It is one of my favorite gadgets

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<v Speaker 1>that I've picked up in the last couple of years.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's you know, people say, well, the Pebble smart

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<v Speaker 1>watch is kind of limited what it can do, which

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<v Speaker 1>is true. But what it does do, it does really

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<v Speaker 1>well and I like the things that it does do. So, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I've really had If you ever watch any of my

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<v Speaker 1>forward thinking videos, anyone I shot after the I got

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<v Speaker 1>that watch, you'll see that watch on my wrist. So

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<v Speaker 1>but yes, there was a moment where I was I

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<v Speaker 1>was curssing pebble. Uh. Next, we have a story that

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<v Speaker 1>developed and we also covered this in an episode of

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<v Speaker 1>tech Stuff. This was a special episode of tech Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that Lauren you you you weren't there. Yeah, I was

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<v Speaker 1>out at one of my two best friends got married

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<v Speaker 1>two weekends in a row in October, So I missed

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of things due to insanity and travel plans.

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<v Speaker 1>And Ben Bolan was kind enough to step in and

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<v Speaker 1>do this episode with Jonathan about Elon Musk's hyper loop yep,

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<v Speaker 1>and Elon Musk, of course, founder of Tesla Motors, founder

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<v Speaker 1>of SpaceX. Everyone has acknowledged that this dude is really

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<v Speaker 1>smart and really good at the business, and so he

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<v Speaker 1>had been teasing for a while that he had this

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<v Speaker 1>this cool idea for a new kind of transportation system,

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<v Speaker 1>and eventually he leaked that it was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>called the hyper loop, or that His concept was called

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<v Speaker 1>hyper loop, right, not that it was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>called because we're not really positive that this is going

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<v Speaker 1>to come to fruition ever. Yeah, no one has any

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<v Speaker 1>plans of actually building this. In fact, even Musk was

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<v Speaker 1>saying like it would be great if someone took this on,

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<v Speaker 1>suggesting that he himself was not going to be that person.

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<v Speaker 1>And to be fair, Musk has a lot on his plate.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, little bit busy with you know, to Tesla

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<v Speaker 1>motors and space. Little things like getting people into space

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<v Speaker 1>and getting electric super fast cars on the road does

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<v Speaker 1>take a lot of time. What what would not take

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of time if Hyperlooper built would be a

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<v Speaker 1>trip between San Francisco and Los Angeles, which would be

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<v Speaker 1>only thirty five minutes in duration. Right, Uh, yeah, these

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<v Speaker 1>this is a electromagnetic train kind of thing. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>each each car is its own little capsule. It would

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<v Speaker 1>float on a cushion of air. Those electromagnetic motors would

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<v Speaker 1>provide the push that would allow it to go around

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<v Speaker 1>this loop track between San Francisco and l A and

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<v Speaker 1>um and supposedly you would travel at at a top

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<v Speaker 1>be that would be faster than what most commercial jets

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<v Speaker 1>travel at Uh. You know, it remains to be seeing

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<v Speaker 1>whether this is even feasible because no one has an

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<v Speaker 1>actual example of this to show that it truly would

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<v Speaker 1>work efficiently. If you listen to the hyper loop episode

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<v Speaker 1>we did, you will, Yeah, that one, that one published

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<v Speaker 1>on NOVEM. You're looking for it, so just go back

0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:24.800
<v Speaker 1>and check that one out. Let's move on to August.

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<v Speaker 1>Big story. We only have one story for August, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's a big one. Yeah. That was when Microsoft CEO

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Balmber announced that he was going to step down. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>which you know, some people had been calling for for

0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:42.800
<v Speaker 1>Balmer to step down for a couple of years. Developers, developers, developers.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the developers liked them, but I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>that anyone else did. Um No, I'm not. That's being unfair,

0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:51.639
<v Speaker 1>but there were there have been people who have said

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<v Speaker 1>that Microsoft suffers from a lack of true leadership. I

0:17:56.760 --> 0:17:58.640
<v Speaker 1>was never one of those people. I thought that Balmber

0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:03.400
<v Speaker 1>certainly was a powerful leader, but I didn't I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>always sure that his vision of Microsoft was something that

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<v Speaker 1>aligned with what a lot of us the rank and file,

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<v Speaker 1>would consider, you know, really to be memorable or or relevant.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he was trying to to to straddle that line

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<v Speaker 1>between enterprise and consumers, and that's tough to do. That

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<v Speaker 1>is very tough to do. I also think that he

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<v Speaker 1>just has some a little bit of like charisma within

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<v Speaker 1>the press issues going on, where he kind of frequently

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't come off I think as well as he wants to,

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<v Speaker 1>or he could. He certainly comes off as enthusiastic, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but perhaps not as a suave or like Steve Jobs

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<v Speaker 1>could come out and in just a super cool kind

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<v Speaker 1>of way for for geeks, super cool for geeks. Okay,

0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:56.080
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about a niche audience here, but in a

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<v Speaker 1>super cool kind of way, really drum up your excitement

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<v Speaker 1>for something. Uh, and Balmer could come out and you'd

0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:04.640
<v Speaker 1>be afraid he'd throw a chair at you. But but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to be fair to Balmer, I mean, he

0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:15.040
<v Speaker 1>really obviously loves Yeah, so he um and his responses

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<v Speaker 1>in the wake of the announcement, it seemed to me

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<v Speaker 1>that it didn't sound like it was entirely his decision

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<v Speaker 1>to step down. It seemed to be like he was

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<v Speaker 1>someone who, you know, was really passionate about this company

0:19:27.359 --> 0:19:30.840
<v Speaker 1>and doesn't necessarily have a vision for what comes next.

0:19:30.920 --> 0:19:34.439
<v Speaker 1>For him UM, and the question of who will be

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<v Speaker 1>Microsoft's next CEO remains unanswered as of the recording of

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast. We are recording on December twelve, so it

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<v Speaker 1>is possible that before the end of the year that

0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:47.640
<v Speaker 1>that decision has been made. But right now they're looking

0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:50.960
<v Speaker 1>at a couple of different candidates, Um, some of whom

0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:53.959
<v Speaker 1>are people who are known to be great leaders but

0:19:54.119 --> 0:19:57.440
<v Speaker 1>have no experience in the computer or software industries. Yeah,

0:19:57.560 --> 0:19:59.359
<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk a little bit about that, I

0:19:59.400 --> 0:20:05.080
<v Speaker 1>think and predictions episode. Yeah. So, anyway, that was that

0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:07.960
<v Speaker 1>was a big story for August and we have gotten

0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:12.840
<v Speaker 1>through a Q three, so we want to hit SHU four.

0:20:13.000 --> 0:20:15.520
<v Speaker 1>But before we do that, let's take a quick break

0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:19.679
<v Speaker 1>to thank our sponsor. You know, try to remember the

0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:23.280
<v Speaker 1>kind of September when grass was green and grain was yellow.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking September. I'm quoting from the Fantastics. If you

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<v Speaker 1>recognize that, you are awesome. So September, that's traditionally when

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<v Speaker 1>a company that rhymes with schmapple comes out and uh

0:20:36.840 --> 0:20:41.920
<v Speaker 1>and and whips the crowd into a rabid fervor of

0:20:42.200 --> 0:20:46.400
<v Speaker 1>joy and consumption. Right. Yeah, and they did tuberculosis consumption.

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<v Speaker 1>They certainly. I hope not. I've forgotten that from my iPhone.

0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:53.120
<v Speaker 1>There's no app for that. I no, No, that's that's

0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:56.280
<v Speaker 1>when they unveiled the iPhone five C and five S.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's funny because one of your predictions was all

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<v Speaker 1>about the US and you were and one of my

0:21:01.480 --> 0:21:03.800
<v Speaker 1>predictions was kind of about this. I think either way,

0:21:03.880 --> 0:21:06.000
<v Speaker 1>one of us predicted this and we were around the money.

0:21:06.200 --> 0:21:08.399
<v Speaker 1>I think I think that was you. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say that you said that there was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a new iPhone and that you were

0:21:11.440 --> 0:21:14.320
<v Speaker 1>the one who called it iPhone five. Say it was

0:21:14.359 --> 0:21:17.760
<v Speaker 1>a tag team victory. Excellent. Now now it all comes

0:21:17.800 --> 0:21:21.760
<v Speaker 1>back to me, high fives. Um. So the five S

0:21:21.920 --> 0:21:26.520
<v Speaker 1>was the slightly more hardware update update. Yeah, faster processor,

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<v Speaker 1>better screen, biometric fingerprints, scanner, some all a little cool

0:21:31.960 --> 0:21:34.760
<v Speaker 1>bells and whistles were added to that one. The five

0:21:34.880 --> 0:21:38.359
<v Speaker 1>C was basically just a cheaper version of the of

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<v Speaker 1>the five of the original five. Get it in a

0:21:40.920 --> 0:21:44.359
<v Speaker 1>different color than wide or black, in in multiple kind

0:21:44.400 --> 0:21:49.720
<v Speaker 1>of awful colors. Stupid color. I don't know. I'm sure

0:21:49.760 --> 0:21:52.160
<v Speaker 1>there are people out there who accessorize everything, and you've

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<v Speaker 1>got you know, your gorgeous phone. That's a gorgeous color.

0:21:55.160 --> 0:21:59.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm a simple I just want a black phone. It's

0:21:59.160 --> 0:22:02.840
<v Speaker 1>it's for me personally, that's what That's what cases are for.

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<v Speaker 1>But I can certainly understand the cheaper part being a

0:22:07.400 --> 0:22:11.200
<v Speaker 1>big draw. Yeah. Sure. September was also the month when

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<v Speaker 1>Blockbuster Incorporated declared bankruptcy, which followed Blockbuster UK. They had

0:22:16.920 --> 0:22:21.080
<v Speaker 1>declared bankruptcy back in January, but in the United States

0:22:21.440 --> 0:22:25.199
<v Speaker 1>the main company didn't declare until September. Yeah. By November

0:22:25.240 --> 0:22:27.439
<v Speaker 1>they would have closed all of their US brick and

0:22:27.440 --> 0:22:31.520
<v Speaker 1>mortar stores, right right that they announced that they would

0:22:31.680 --> 0:22:35.879
<v Speaker 1>do that by January. Yeah, So no longer will you

0:22:35.960 --> 0:22:39.960
<v Speaker 1>walk into a neighborhood Blockbuster and look at the multiple

0:22:40.080 --> 0:22:44.199
<v Speaker 1>copies of Parent Trapped two and say, yeah, I just

0:22:44.280 --> 0:22:47.359
<v Speaker 1>don't know what to watch. Now you can do that

0:22:47.440 --> 0:22:51.119
<v Speaker 1>from the convenience of a red box, yes, or streaming

0:22:51.240 --> 0:22:55.119
<v Speaker 1>or streaming. So, in fact, Blockbuster still does have a

0:22:55.160 --> 0:22:59.520
<v Speaker 1>streaming service. Although I've read some pretty critical reviews of

0:22:59.560 --> 0:23:01.680
<v Speaker 1>that cular service, I have not used it, so I

0:23:02.080 --> 0:23:04.720
<v Speaker 1>am I'm not sure what the quality is because I've

0:23:04.760 --> 0:23:07.359
<v Speaker 1>never personally used it. It's in partnership with Dish though,

0:23:07.640 --> 0:23:10.199
<v Speaker 1>which is you know, big enough that I think, you know,

0:23:10.520 --> 0:23:13.560
<v Speaker 1>it certainly has the potential to live on Dish essentially

0:23:13.600 --> 0:23:17.320
<v Speaker 1>bought Blockbuster um and has decided to shut down all

0:23:17.320 --> 0:23:19.760
<v Speaker 1>the retail because it just looks like that's you know,

0:23:20.000 --> 0:23:22.439
<v Speaker 1>that's that's in the past. It everything seems to be

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<v Speaker 1>moving toward online distribution, which is not a big surprise

0:23:25.080 --> 0:23:27.320
<v Speaker 1>to anyone who's been paying attention to the last few years.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh sure. And also, I mean even for for offline distribution,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that just when you're competing with a company

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<v Speaker 1>like red Box that has these you know, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>basically zero footprint machines instead of large retail spaces that

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<v Speaker 1>you have to build out and and and pay, you know,

0:23:44.359 --> 0:23:47.600
<v Speaker 1>even if you're competing against like Netflix's DVD service, which

0:23:47.640 --> 0:23:50.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot of us forget about but still exists. So yeah,

0:23:51.200 --> 0:23:56.480
<v Speaker 1>it's a tough story for them. That brings us into October, right.

0:23:56.680 --> 0:24:00.159
<v Speaker 1>That's more Apple news Maple Yep, that's when they So

0:24:00.160 --> 0:24:02.600
<v Speaker 1>they had already updated their iPhones, but that's not good

0:24:02.680 --> 0:24:05.360
<v Speaker 1>enough for Apple. They have to update lots of stuff.

0:24:06.000 --> 0:24:08.840
<v Speaker 1>They updated their iPad line. They introduced the iPad air,

0:24:09.000 --> 0:24:13.000
<v Speaker 1>which is I will admit a gloriously beautiful looking device.

0:24:13.320 --> 0:24:16.240
<v Speaker 1>Apple is pretty good at that. I don't own one.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I'll be buying one anytime soon, but

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<v Speaker 1>I can certainly see the appeal of it. Yeah. Um.

0:24:21.680 --> 0:24:24.520
<v Speaker 1>They also introduced a new MacBook Pro YEP, a couple

0:24:24.520 --> 0:24:27.280
<v Speaker 1>of different models of that, and they introduced they had

0:24:27.280 --> 0:24:31.200
<v Speaker 1>already announced the new operating system, but this is when

0:24:31.240 --> 0:24:34.040
<v Speaker 1>they actually were launching Mavericks, which was that was a

0:24:34.040 --> 0:24:37.040
<v Speaker 1>big departure, right, Yeah, well a it's not named after

0:24:37.040 --> 0:24:40.600
<v Speaker 1>a big cat, um, so that was that was weird there.

0:24:41.000 --> 0:24:43.680
<v Speaker 1>But but also that it would be a free download

0:24:43.760 --> 0:24:47.280
<v Speaker 1>for current Mac os owners. Yeah, so it wasn't something

0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:50.399
<v Speaker 1>where you'd have to go and purchase this operating system update.

0:24:50.440 --> 0:24:53.240
<v Speaker 1>You could download it for free, which is a new model.

0:24:53.320 --> 0:24:56.080
<v Speaker 1>Is essentially kind of sends a message saying that Apple

0:24:56.400 --> 0:24:59.600
<v Speaker 1>is getting into more and more of the hardware side

0:24:59.600 --> 0:25:02.719
<v Speaker 1>of thing as their main revenue generation point and not

0:25:02.880 --> 0:25:05.000
<v Speaker 1>the operating system side. Also, I think it was a

0:25:05.080 --> 0:25:08.520
<v Speaker 1>huge bite of the thumb in the face of Microsoft

0:25:08.560 --> 0:25:11.560
<v Speaker 1>and all of their all of their Windows eight problems. Yes,

0:25:11.640 --> 0:25:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Apple was the montague to Microsoft's capulet, and they did

0:25:16.520 --> 0:25:22.600
<v Speaker 1>bite their thumb at them. Uh yes, yes, sah, yes, indeed. Um, yeah,

0:25:22.640 --> 0:25:25.240
<v Speaker 1>that was a that was a big story actually because again,

0:25:25.320 --> 0:25:28.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, Microsoft, we didn't really cover it in this

0:25:28.320 --> 0:25:32.639
<v Speaker 1>in this uh look back a but Microsoft didn't have

0:25:32.680 --> 0:25:35.159
<v Speaker 1>a whole of success with Windows eight. And yeah, that's

0:25:35.200 --> 0:25:36.879
<v Speaker 1>kind of why we don't have to have a bullet

0:25:36.920 --> 0:25:39.639
<v Speaker 1>in here because nothing happened with it. Yeah, just it

0:25:39.720 --> 0:25:41.600
<v Speaker 1>was one of those things where people who liked it

0:25:41.640 --> 0:25:43.800
<v Speaker 1>really liked it, but there weren't that many people. A

0:25:43.880 --> 0:25:46.720
<v Speaker 1>lot of people just didn't try it. So it could

0:25:46.800 --> 0:25:49.760
<v Speaker 1>be that the potential audience is huge, but the actual

0:25:49.800 --> 0:25:52.720
<v Speaker 1>audience is pretty small. So you know, offering up your

0:25:53.119 --> 0:25:56.439
<v Speaker 1>os for free was again thumbing the nose or biting

0:25:56.480 --> 0:25:59.240
<v Speaker 1>the thumbs somewhere. That hand is somewhere in front of

0:25:59.240 --> 0:26:01.680
<v Speaker 1>the face and things are not polite. Thumbs are involved.

0:26:02.359 --> 0:26:05.919
<v Speaker 1>Also in October, that's when um, Jeff Bezos, the CEO

0:26:06.080 --> 0:26:08.680
<v Speaker 1>of course of Amazon, officially took over as the owner

0:26:08.720 --> 0:26:13.000
<v Speaker 1>of the Washington Post newspaper, which was a big shake

0:26:13.080 --> 0:26:16.240
<v Speaker 1>up in the in the newspaper industry. Oh yeah, well,

0:26:16.280 --> 0:26:18.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean the paper had been owned by the same

0:26:18.480 --> 0:26:22.840
<v Speaker 1>the same family, um, the Graham family for eighty years. Yeah,

0:26:23.200 --> 0:26:26.520
<v Speaker 1>that's a long time. So he paid a cool two

0:26:27.040 --> 0:26:30.000
<v Speaker 1>fifty million for that, which some people had suggested was

0:26:30.040 --> 0:26:32.960
<v Speaker 1>actually too much, saying that you know, print is on

0:26:33.000 --> 0:26:35.080
<v Speaker 1>the way out. Sure, but you know, I think that

0:26:35.119 --> 0:26:39.160
<v Speaker 1>it's interesting, um for for Amazon to absorb that kind

0:26:39.200 --> 0:26:42.920
<v Speaker 1>of news service, especially when you compare them to uh

0:26:42.960 --> 0:26:46.320
<v Speaker 1>to to say, the Apple family of of of iTunes

0:26:46.840 --> 0:26:50.639
<v Speaker 1>news distribution like that. Um. But for for more of

0:26:50.640 --> 0:26:53.879
<v Speaker 1>the crazy things that um, Amazon and Bezos do, we

0:26:53.960 --> 0:26:57.359
<v Speaker 1>did a two part series on on them that aired

0:26:57.359 --> 0:27:01.359
<v Speaker 1>February of this year. Yep, so of course that pre

0:27:01.480 --> 0:27:04.560
<v Speaker 1>dates this particular story. But and also I should point

0:27:04.600 --> 0:27:07.439
<v Speaker 1>out that, uh, I believe it's Bezos who owns Washington

0:27:07.480 --> 0:27:11.040
<v Speaker 1>Post and it's separate from Amazon entirely, which well, I

0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:14.240
<v Speaker 1>don't know how long that will last or exactly. I

0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:16.399
<v Speaker 1>wonder if Bezos is just positioning himself to be the

0:27:16.440 --> 0:27:20.920
<v Speaker 1>next Hearst newspaper bar and if he builds a castle,

0:27:21.720 --> 0:27:24.960
<v Speaker 1>and then if he buys a sled, just watch out.

0:27:25.240 --> 0:27:28.520
<v Speaker 1>That's all I'm saying, no spoilers, but watch out other

0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:32.560
<v Speaker 1>things to kind of watch out for a mysterious barge

0:27:32.560 --> 0:27:35.880
<v Speaker 1>off the coast of San Francisco. Gosh. I remember hearing

0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:39.199
<v Speaker 1>this story and I was immediately enthralled the idea that

0:27:39.240 --> 0:27:41.359
<v Speaker 1>there was a barge and no one was really sure

0:27:41.440 --> 0:27:44.119
<v Speaker 1>why it was there, and it had canisters aren't that

0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:47.560
<v Speaker 1>made it four stories tall? And it was off Treasure

0:27:47.600 --> 0:27:49.879
<v Speaker 1>Island off the coast of San Francisco. And I'm like,

0:27:51.080 --> 0:27:55.160
<v Speaker 1>is this is this a pirate story that's happening? I mean,

0:27:55.280 --> 0:27:58.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, granted it's not a Spanish War galleon or anything,

0:27:58.760 --> 0:28:03.040
<v Speaker 1>but still, and turned out, uh well, eventually people figured

0:28:03.040 --> 0:28:05.560
<v Speaker 1>out that was connected to Google, although Google was being

0:28:05.760 --> 0:28:09.400
<v Speaker 1>very sly and not saying anything about it. And then

0:28:09.440 --> 0:28:11.280
<v Speaker 1>the question was, well, what is it? Some people thought

0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:13.040
<v Speaker 1>that perhaps it was gonna be one of those floating

0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:16.720
<v Speaker 1>data centers that Google had created a patent four years ago,

0:28:16.760 --> 0:28:18.720
<v Speaker 1>where the idea would be that you would use the

0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:22.400
<v Speaker 1>ocean water to help keep the data center cool and

0:28:22.200 --> 0:28:25.639
<v Speaker 1>you and harness even the power of the tides to

0:28:25.640 --> 0:28:28.399
<v Speaker 1>to get power for your data center, and that maybe

0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:30.640
<v Speaker 1>this was going to be the first one. And other

0:28:30.640 --> 0:28:32.840
<v Speaker 1>people are saying, no, it's just gonna be a giant

0:28:32.840 --> 0:28:35.639
<v Speaker 1>floating mall for really rich people to buy their Google

0:28:35.680 --> 0:28:37.840
<v Speaker 1>glass and as it turns out it looks like it's

0:28:37.840 --> 0:28:40.320
<v Speaker 1>a really giant mall for really rich people to buy

0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:45.000
<v Speaker 1>their Google Glass and other Google x projects. So assuming

0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:48.280
<v Speaker 1>that Google can pull together all of the correct regulation

0:28:48.560 --> 0:28:53.760
<v Speaker 1>kind of kind of paperwork, yeah, it might be open sometime. Yeah.

0:28:53.920 --> 0:28:56.400
<v Speaker 1>It turns out that a lot of different entities began

0:28:56.480 --> 0:29:00.280
<v Speaker 1>to say, you know, Google, We're gonna need a little

0:29:00.280 --> 0:29:03.120
<v Speaker 1>proof that you can operate this safely and within the

0:29:03.200 --> 0:29:05.680
<v Speaker 1>laws of the United States. So the Coast Guard got interested,

0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:09.280
<v Speaker 1>among other entities. So there's gonna be some price, some

0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:13.000
<v Speaker 1>forms to fill out before this ever opens. Um. I

0:29:13.040 --> 0:29:15.240
<v Speaker 1>am curious to find out if only like the super

0:29:15.280 --> 0:29:17.520
<v Speaker 1>Google stuff is ever sold there. Like you can buy

0:29:17.600 --> 0:29:21.400
<v Speaker 1>Google Glass and an autonomous car and that's it, and

0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:25.920
<v Speaker 1>you have to drive that car back over. It's like

0:29:26.600 --> 0:29:31.520
<v Speaker 1>bang bang um. Also in October, the the Affordable Care

0:29:31.600 --> 0:29:38.920
<v Speaker 1>Acts website went into um healthcare dot gov. Yeah, this

0:29:39.000 --> 0:29:42.800
<v Speaker 1>was one of those things that now it had garnered

0:29:42.840 --> 0:29:46.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot of criticism before it even launched. Uh. Well,

0:29:46.080 --> 0:29:48.520
<v Speaker 1>first of all, there's a political side of it, huge

0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:51.240
<v Speaker 1>political controversy and lots of back and forth and many

0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:55.200
<v Speaker 1>many many months of lots of tiresome arguments on that

0:29:55.360 --> 0:29:58.400
<v Speaker 1>are still going on. But even apart from all the

0:29:58.440 --> 0:30:01.920
<v Speaker 1>political arguments, there were some people who they divorced themselves

0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:04.520
<v Speaker 1>from the whole political side. They just said, you announced

0:30:04.560 --> 0:30:07.600
<v Speaker 1>us back, you know, in the spring of and you

0:30:07.680 --> 0:30:10.840
<v Speaker 1>plan on launching it in the fall of That's not

0:30:10.960 --> 0:30:14.920
<v Speaker 1>enough time to design and quality do do q A

0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:19.000
<v Speaker 1>testing for a major operation like this website that millions

0:30:19.000 --> 0:30:21.120
<v Speaker 1>of people are going to be trying to access potentially

0:30:21.160 --> 0:30:23.320
<v Speaker 1>at the same time, right, and uh so, there were

0:30:23.320 --> 0:30:24.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot of critics who were saying, like, you really,

0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:27.680
<v Speaker 1>this this, this deadline is far too ambitious. Don't you

0:30:27.680 --> 0:30:30.719
<v Speaker 1>want to actually have that or But but they went

0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:32.959
<v Speaker 1>ahead and tried to launch it, and sure enough, there

0:30:33.000 --> 0:30:36.680
<v Speaker 1>were technical problems early early on. The site suffered some

0:30:36.960 --> 0:30:38.680
<v Speaker 1>for a couple of months. Really, I mean, I I

0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:41.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of just heard within recent weeks that they put

0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:44.800
<v Speaker 1>out a redesign early in December, I want to say,

0:30:44.960 --> 0:30:47.280
<v Speaker 1>and and I've heard that people have been having more

0:30:47.360 --> 0:30:50.440
<v Speaker 1>success with that. There's still some technical problems that pop up,

0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:52.120
<v Speaker 1>but it was it was one of those things that

0:30:52.400 --> 0:30:56.120
<v Speaker 1>it certainly didn't help the debate, you know, people pointed

0:30:56.120 --> 0:30:59.760
<v Speaker 1>to the to that as being another another talking point

0:30:59.800 --> 0:31:02.040
<v Speaker 1>in time, they got into an argument about the Affordable

0:31:02.040 --> 0:31:05.040
<v Speaker 1>Care Act. Uh, it does seem like it is working

0:31:05.120 --> 0:31:08.400
<v Speaker 1>better now than it was before, although you know, your

0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:11.400
<v Speaker 1>mileage may vary on any given day. So but still

0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:13.080
<v Speaker 1>that's one of the stories that we had to cover.

0:31:13.800 --> 0:31:16.720
<v Speaker 1>So that brings us into November. Now we're getting into

0:31:16.760 --> 0:31:19.760
<v Speaker 1>the recent past for for us, because pretty soon we're

0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:22.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna be talking about the future because there's one one,

0:31:22.920 --> 0:31:25.120
<v Speaker 1>one item on our list that has not yet happened.

0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:28.240
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, as of the recording of this podcast, anyway,

0:31:28.240 --> 0:31:31.800
<v Speaker 1>so November that's when, uh, well big big news for

0:31:31.920 --> 0:31:34.479
<v Speaker 1>people who like to fly right right, the f a

0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:37.160
<v Speaker 1>A announced that they were going to relax restrictions um

0:31:37.360 --> 0:31:40.840
<v Speaker 1>almost immediately after we published an episode about their restrictions

0:31:40.880 --> 0:31:43.920
<v Speaker 1>on using electronics during flight. I'd like to think that

0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:48.240
<v Speaker 1>we caused them to really examine their policies and question

0:31:48.280 --> 0:31:50.720
<v Speaker 1>whether or not they were actually useful. I think that

0:31:50.800 --> 0:31:52.600
<v Speaker 1>had to have been at Jonathan. I think that we're

0:31:52.640 --> 0:31:56.800
<v Speaker 1>doing really important work. My ego demands that that's the truth. Anyway,

0:31:56.960 --> 0:31:59.560
<v Speaker 1>But so so at this point, you can, well, okay,

0:31:59.600 --> 0:32:06.000
<v Speaker 1>it depend on any given airline providers regulations most airlines

0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:08.640
<v Speaker 1>are going to probably fall right in line with it quickly,

0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:11.840
<v Speaker 1>because no one wants to be the airline the one

0:32:11.880 --> 0:32:14.240
<v Speaker 1>airline that doesn't allow their customers to do that, and

0:32:14.280 --> 0:32:16.320
<v Speaker 1>then everyone's like, well, I'm just gonna go fly on

0:32:16.360 --> 0:32:18.360
<v Speaker 1>this other one from now on. Yeah. But but so

0:32:18.640 --> 0:32:22.080
<v Speaker 1>for it's already rolling out in many airlines, and for

0:32:22.120 --> 0:32:25.120
<v Speaker 1>the most part, you can use electronic devices as long

0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:28.880
<v Speaker 1>as it's not using a cellular phone signal. Right, Um,

0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:31.680
<v Speaker 1>while you know, I mean from you know, the moment

0:32:31.800 --> 0:32:34.280
<v Speaker 1>that you are seated until the moment that you land

0:32:34.720 --> 0:32:36.520
<v Speaker 1>ready to get off the plane, so you can just

0:32:36.600 --> 0:32:38.800
<v Speaker 1>keep that, don't need to shut it down during takeoff

0:32:38.840 --> 0:32:43.680
<v Speaker 1>and landing, and keep that creative. Was it a creative

0:32:43.760 --> 0:32:47.400
<v Speaker 1>labs uh MP three player that weighs four hundred pounds

0:32:47.400 --> 0:32:50.600
<v Speaker 1>going the entire time? I do have one of those somewhere.

0:32:51.200 --> 0:32:55.640
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, you still you still cannot use cell phone signals. Um,

0:32:55.920 --> 0:32:59.160
<v Speaker 1>although that's also up for debate. Now that's up for debate. UM.

0:32:59.160 --> 0:33:00.920
<v Speaker 1>It's It's also part of the problem is that it's

0:33:00.960 --> 0:33:06.440
<v Speaker 1>uh that's tied up in the Federal Communications Commissions. So

0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:09.640
<v Speaker 1>it's not just it's also the FCC much more complicated. Yeah.

0:33:09.720 --> 0:33:11.440
<v Speaker 1>Um and and again yes, we we did a full

0:33:11.480 --> 0:33:15.120
<v Speaker 1>episode on that on September if you would like to

0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:18.560
<v Speaker 1>listen to exactly why we thought that they should do

0:33:18.600 --> 0:33:20.880
<v Speaker 1>what they announced that they were going to do. Yeah,

0:33:20.920 --> 0:33:24.120
<v Speaker 1>which clearly happened afterwards. Because we're talking November now, so

0:33:24.600 --> 0:33:27.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean correlation, causation, same thing, right, all right, moving on.

0:33:28.480 --> 0:33:32.520
<v Speaker 1>Also in November, a certain company held its initial public

0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:36.280
<v Speaker 1>offering or I p O. Yeah, Twitter, Yeah, big, big,

0:33:36.280 --> 0:33:38.400
<v Speaker 1>crazy news is it's kind of in the footsteps of

0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:42.680
<v Speaker 1>Facebook's about a year previous I p O sort of

0:33:42.760 --> 0:33:46.240
<v Speaker 1>kind of. Um. They their IPO launched with an offer

0:33:46.280 --> 0:33:48.959
<v Speaker 1>of twenty six dollars per share. Yeah, that was the

0:33:49.000 --> 0:33:52.440
<v Speaker 1>offer price that was before went on on actually the market,

0:33:52.440 --> 0:33:54.080
<v Speaker 1>but they said the offer price was gonna be twenty

0:33:54.120 --> 0:33:56.440
<v Speaker 1>six dollars per share. As it turns out, once the

0:33:56.480 --> 0:33:59.640
<v Speaker 1>market actually opened, the opening price, which is not the

0:33:59.680 --> 0:34:02.280
<v Speaker 1>same the offer price head was a little higher. Yeah.

0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:04.280
<v Speaker 1>I had jumped all the way to uh forty five

0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:07.360
<v Speaker 1>dollars and ten cents, and the peak that day was

0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:10.440
<v Speaker 1>fifty dollars and nine cents per share. However, that's not

0:34:10.480 --> 0:34:14.600
<v Speaker 1>what it closed at. It settled back down at Yeah,

0:34:14.640 --> 0:34:16.360
<v Speaker 1>so that means that it was actually by the end

0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:18.799
<v Speaker 1>of the day a little lower than what it was

0:34:18.800 --> 0:34:20.520
<v Speaker 1>when it first started, which meant that if you bought

0:34:20.560 --> 0:34:22.680
<v Speaker 1>it at the very beginning of the day and you

0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:24.080
<v Speaker 1>were holding onto it at the end of the day,

0:34:24.120 --> 0:34:28.400
<v Speaker 1>you technically lost cents. But share per share per share

0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:31.839
<v Speaker 1>right now importantly. Um. You know however, uh no, I mean,

0:34:31.840 --> 0:34:34.200
<v Speaker 1>that's that's great for you know, for for for a

0:34:34.239 --> 0:34:39.640
<v Speaker 1>company that is still way behind say Facebook in users.

0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:43.160
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't have a billion users, certainly not um but

0:34:43.160 --> 0:34:45.160
<v Speaker 1>but you know, that's that's great. I was excited for him,

0:34:45.200 --> 0:34:47.359
<v Speaker 1>and it's It's interesting because this is one of those

0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:50.560
<v Speaker 1>I remember I was doing research for this podcast, and

0:34:50.760 --> 0:34:53.560
<v Speaker 1>uh and I pulled up information about Twitter and the

0:34:53.600 --> 0:34:56.520
<v Speaker 1>i p O and what reactions were to it, and

0:34:57.000 --> 0:35:00.439
<v Speaker 1>two results back to back, where one was a person

0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:02.160
<v Speaker 1>who wrote about how the Twitter i p O was

0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:04.600
<v Speaker 1>a huge success for Twitter, and the other one was

0:35:04.640 --> 0:35:06.920
<v Speaker 1>that Twitter i PO was a huge failure for Twitter.

0:35:07.000 --> 0:35:10.799
<v Speaker 1>And thought, oh, finance, no wonder, I don't understand you.

0:35:11.080 --> 0:35:13.959
<v Speaker 1>You're like quantum mechanics. It's in super position. It's both

0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:17.319
<v Speaker 1>failing and succeeding at the same time, I think it's

0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:19.320
<v Speaker 1>one of those time will tell kind of stories. And

0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:23.040
<v Speaker 1>it's still it's still early. We'll still find out another

0:35:23.160 --> 0:35:27.840
<v Speaker 1>another thing currently in weird financial development. Um, the value

0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:31.839
<v Speaker 1>of bitcoins did did some crazy things this year. At

0:35:31.840 --> 0:35:34.319
<v Speaker 1>the beginning of the year, they were pretty cheap, like

0:35:34.400 --> 0:35:36.960
<v Speaker 1>twelve to thirteen bucks, yeah, right around you know, right

0:35:37.000 --> 0:35:38.680
<v Speaker 1>at the very top end of twelve dollars, a low

0:35:38.719 --> 0:35:40.560
<v Speaker 1>in the thirteen dollars depending upon the day you were

0:35:40.600 --> 0:35:46.560
<v Speaker 1>looking at it. But yeah, throughout the year the value changed, uh,

0:35:46.600 --> 0:35:49.359
<v Speaker 1>significantly all the way to the point on November twenty nine,

0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:52.399
<v Speaker 1>the currency hit it's all time high so far as

0:35:52.440 --> 0:35:55.759
<v Speaker 1>of the recording of this podcast of one thousand, two

0:35:55.800 --> 0:35:59.840
<v Speaker 1>hundred forty two dollars per coin, which is a ten thousand,

0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:04.960
<v Speaker 1>more than ten percent increase in value. Uh. It's since

0:36:05.000 --> 0:36:08.480
<v Speaker 1>then dropped down to a little bit below a thousand dollars,

0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:15.280
<v Speaker 1>it's sixty or something. Yeah, But um, I mean, oh see,

0:36:15.400 --> 0:36:18.279
<v Speaker 1>this is why I say it's not I can't think

0:36:18.280 --> 0:36:22.440
<v Speaker 1>of it as a currency because investment. Yeah, because you can't, like,

0:36:22.560 --> 0:36:25.879
<v Speaker 1>how would I price something so that you could buy

0:36:25.880 --> 0:36:28.919
<v Speaker 1>it with bitcoin? Knowing that the next day I could

0:36:28.960 --> 0:36:32.480
<v Speaker 1>have potentially lost out on thousands of dollars, or that

0:36:32.680 --> 0:36:34.840
<v Speaker 1>your your buyer could have lost out on thousands of

0:36:34.880 --> 0:36:37.839
<v Speaker 1>dollars if they were buying, you know, a key chain

0:36:37.960 --> 0:36:40.799
<v Speaker 1>from you. Then suddenly that key chain is worth yea,

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<v Speaker 1>like like I paid what I thought was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be three dollars for this key chain, but now it

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<v Speaker 1>turns out I paid three thousand dollars for this key chain. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's it's that's why I say it's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to call it a real currency because the volatility means

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<v Speaker 1>that you cannot have a stable economy. You can't as

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<v Speaker 1>a vendor, it's very dangerous for you to create any

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<v Speaker 1>price for your items unless those are dynamically priced so

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<v Speaker 1>that they reflect whatever the current value of bitcoin is,

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<v Speaker 1>which means anytime anyone visits your store, the prices are

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<v Speaker 1>going to look very different day to day. So it

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<v Speaker 1>makes it really hard to have a stable economy. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>And I am not a finance person, but that's that

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<v Speaker 1>just seems it seems like logic that brings us up

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<v Speaker 1>to December. Yeah, and I think that we only have

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<v Speaker 1>one bullet point. Technically we have to add yes, So

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<v Speaker 1>anarchy is this first there's the the biggest, the other

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<v Speaker 1>big announcement that Jeff Bezos was involved in where he

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<v Speaker 1>went on sixty minutes um right before Cyber Monday, he

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<v Speaker 1>went on sixty minutes and talked about his plans to

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<v Speaker 1>launch Amazon Prime Air launch. I like what you did there, Laurence.

0:37:49.000 --> 0:37:52.480
<v Speaker 1>I didn't mean to what you did. Well, I'll remember

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<v Speaker 1>this day, Okay. So anyway, so Amazon Prime Air is

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<v Speaker 1>a drone delivery service, or will hypothetically be a drone

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<v Speaker 1>delivery service, assuming that many things and including technology, pricing,

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<v Speaker 1>and regulations all fall into place, right, and it would

0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:09.640
<v Speaker 1>it would all that's like a pun too. It would

0:38:09.719 --> 0:38:12.600
<v Speaker 1>end up taking off four to five years if the

0:38:12.680 --> 0:38:17.600
<v Speaker 1>idea fly. But it may turn out that, you know

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<v Speaker 1>something that maybe one or multiple factors caused this idea

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<v Speaker 1>to drop like a stone and not glide on by.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm running out, I'm running out. So yeah, Amazon

0:38:30.520 --> 0:38:32.600
<v Speaker 1>Prime Air, if it happens, that means that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we might have robots delivering our our our stuff. Are

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<v Speaker 1>are our stuff under five pounds? Yeah? If we live

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<v Speaker 1>within ten miles of a fulfillment center, and I'm guessing

0:38:43.120 --> 0:38:47.520
<v Speaker 1>there's going to be potentially a hefty delivery fee. I

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:51.280
<v Speaker 1>would certainly guess that personally, Yeah, yeah, I would. I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen people say like, is this going to put people

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<v Speaker 1>of a job. My guess is that to make this

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<v Speaker 1>make economic sense, there would have to be an additional

0:38:58.800 --> 0:39:01.200
<v Speaker 1>delivery fee if you had to have something within half

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<v Speaker 1>an hour, which would mean that a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>would opt out of it and say, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna wait for it to get to meet

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<v Speaker 1>through regular means. I would suspect that it would be

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<v Speaker 1>pricing on on par at least with overnight delivery pricing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but at least Yeah. So here's my final bullet, the

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<v Speaker 1>one that does not appear on your notes. Technically, the

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<v Speaker 1>reason why it doesn't appear on your notes is I

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<v Speaker 1>added it at the last minute. And also today, as

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<v Speaker 1>we said, is December twelve when we're recording this. Yeah, this,

0:39:29.400 --> 0:39:32.840
<v Speaker 1>this news refers to something that should happen on the thirteenth,

0:39:32.960 --> 0:39:35.840
<v Speaker 1>So by the time you, dear listener, are listening to

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<v Speaker 1>this episode, it will have already happened, unless it didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh that is that the Steam operating system is

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be available starting tomorrow, December Friday. I'll be

0:39:48.719 --> 0:39:52.120
<v Speaker 1>right back. Uh that uh, you know, so assuming that

0:39:52.120 --> 0:39:55.080
<v Speaker 1>that all goes well, we're going to have this new

0:39:55.120 --> 0:39:58.120
<v Speaker 1>operating system on the market, which potentially could end up

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<v Speaker 1>being down the line a real competitor against some of

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<v Speaker 1>the next generation consoles that have just come out current generation.

0:40:04.800 --> 0:40:07.680
<v Speaker 1>I keep saying next generation now they're current, but Xbox

0:40:07.719 --> 0:40:10.640
<v Speaker 1>one and PS four, oh and also Nintendo. We you,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, we keep forgetting about that. Everybody else anyway,

0:40:16.880 --> 0:40:20.680
<v Speaker 1>So if that in fact happened or did not happen,

0:40:20.760 --> 0:40:22.480
<v Speaker 1>we don't know yet, So you guys should write us

0:40:22.480 --> 0:40:24.560
<v Speaker 1>and let us know. Actually we're gonna go ahead and

0:40:24.560 --> 0:40:27.719
<v Speaker 1>wrap up this whole conversation. So yeah, yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, overall, I I hope that this has been

0:40:29.880 --> 0:40:34.520
<v Speaker 1>an enjoyable look back at twenty. It's always fun to remember,

0:40:34.680 --> 0:40:36.840
<v Speaker 1>like like their stories here, they're like, oh, yeah, that

0:40:36.880 --> 0:40:39.359
<v Speaker 1>did happen to happen, and you know, just it's weird

0:40:39.400 --> 0:40:43.239
<v Speaker 1>for perspective purposes of of how quickly some things went

0:40:43.280 --> 0:40:46.200
<v Speaker 1>out or failed to go out. And yeah, yeah, this

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<v Speaker 1>also marks a full year of you podcasting on tech stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness, how does that feel? That feels very strange?

0:40:54.200 --> 0:40:57.319
<v Speaker 1>Ye yep. So I hope, I hope that that you

0:40:57.360 --> 0:41:01.480
<v Speaker 1>have enjoyed my learning curve. Y'all, Well, it certainly didn't

0:41:01.480 --> 0:41:03.120
<v Speaker 1>take you very long to get the grasp of it,

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<v Speaker 1>so so I think the listeners agree with me. And

0:41:06.200 --> 0:41:08.480
<v Speaker 1>if you don't keep it to yourself yet, so and

0:41:08.520 --> 0:41:11.080
<v Speaker 1>so's all right. But for the rest of you guys

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<v Speaker 1>who want to chime in with constructive things to say,

0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:18.920
<v Speaker 1>like suggestions for future episodes. Maybe there's something about fourteen

0:41:19.000 --> 0:41:20.960
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0:41:21.040 --> 0:41:23.440
<v Speaker 1>us to talk about, Or maybe there's something that happened

0:41:23.440 --> 0:41:25.839
<v Speaker 1>in ten fourteen and you're like, I wanted to hear

0:41:25.880 --> 0:41:28.440
<v Speaker 1>a podcast about that. We've been known to do those

0:41:28.520 --> 0:41:30.759
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0:41:30.800 --> 0:41:34.200
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0:41:34.280 --> 0:41:36.640
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