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Speaker 1: Welcome back to NFL Daily, where we will never get

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Speaker 1: jaded enough to get sick of a Patrick Mahomes Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen Chiefs Bills matchup. Someday the kids that are grown

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Speaker 1: up now, we'll be talking about the good old days

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Speaker 1: when it was Josh and it was Lamar and it

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Speaker 1: was Patrick and they would play at least once a year,

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Speaker 1: very often twice a year.

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Speaker 2: It's the SpongeBob meme.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's all of them running around outside and Joe

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Speaker 3: Burrow a squidward looking through the wind.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm not putting Joe Burrow in that grid.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, no, he's looking through the No.

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Speaker 1: I know. I'm apologizing to the Bengals fans or whatever

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Speaker 1: the other three at a different level.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, And they're out there.

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Speaker 5: And the Bills have been eliminated in the playoffs by

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Speaker 5: the Chiefs in four of the last five seasons. They

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Speaker 5: are seven to one against the rest of the NFL.

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Speaker 5: But this on CBS with Jim Nantz and Tony Romo

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Speaker 5: is a chance at revenge, which they're winning in the

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Speaker 5: regular sea.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was gonna say they always do it in

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Speaker 1: the regular season.

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Speaker 5: The Chiefs, who are so hot right now are two

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Speaker 5: and a half point favorites at the Bills. The over

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Speaker 5: under is fifty two and a half. Greg, we saw

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Speaker 5: an offensive explosion. It was against the Carolina Panthers. How

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Speaker 5: does Joe Brady's unit fair against Spags in company?

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Speaker 1: I think it's an opportunity to expose some of the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs defense that just hasn't been over the last month plus.

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Speaker 1: If you had told us after like two weeks that

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Speaker 1: the Bills, who were, you know, the Desert's favorite team

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Speaker 1: at the beginning of this season, would be underdogs against

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs team, considering how that starts like it really

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Speaker 1: shows how this season has flipped. But I think the

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Speaker 1: fundamentals of what we kind of know about this matchup

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Speaker 1: and what's good about the Bills, which is that they

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Speaker 1: are a great run blocking team that has great continuity

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Speaker 1: up front and in general have been able to run

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Speaker 1: the ball against the Chiefs. Certainly in the regular season

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Speaker 1: they put up that thirty burger. That's not a thing,

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Speaker 1: but it should be. They put up thirty points on

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Speaker 1: him last year, and they keep winning the regular seats. Like,

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Speaker 1: I still think you can beat the Chiefs that way,

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Speaker 1: and I do think they have an advantage there. I

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Speaker 1: think they're going to need to because they're not as

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Speaker 1: dynamic throwing the ball as they have been in previous years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and why go away from something that's working so effectively.

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Speaker 3: I mean, James Cook is running like he didn't already

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Speaker 3: get the contract, and it's incredible and it's so fun

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Speaker 3: to watch how this offensive line can just move people.

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Speaker 3: It's awesome. I think that that's where you really want.

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Speaker 3: Like the Bills offense is scoring on fifty percent of

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Speaker 3: their drives a little bit more, a little bit more

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Speaker 3: than that. That's only a few teams that are doing that,

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Speaker 3: and so I think that that and part of it's

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Speaker 3: because a huge part of it is because James Cook

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Speaker 3: and this offensive line, and also the willingness to actually

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Speaker 3: continue to let this be your identity when other phases

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Speaker 3: of your offense, especially your passing game, has been a

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Speaker 3: little disjointed, some of it due to injury as well.

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Speaker 5: In this matchup where the Bills have beaten the Chiefs

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Speaker 5: in Kansas City three consecutive times, like you got to

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Speaker 5: go back to twenty nineteen or for the last Chiefs

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Speaker 5: win at home against Buffalo and looking at this right

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Speaker 5: because I've seen I've seen Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs

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Speaker 5: be more explosive this year and less explosive.

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Speaker 4: In the run game.

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Speaker 5: They're gonna miss Isaiah Pacheco for a large part of

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Speaker 5: the season now. And so incomes Kareem Hunt, who has

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Speaker 5: been able to kind of oddly enough like rest up

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Speaker 5: between the twenties and then come in in the red

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Speaker 5: zone and get all these scoring opportunities where in fantasy

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Speaker 5: like Kareem Hunt is the back that you want, and

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Speaker 5: now it gets peppered into the offense a little bit more,

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Speaker 5: and I wonder what that looks like on this team

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Speaker 5: that hasn't been able to run the ball against the defense,

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Speaker 5: where that's where you want to get. The Bills in

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Speaker 5: this situation is not have Patrick Mahomes back there throwing

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Speaker 5: the ball a whole bunch of times. So it's like

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Speaker 5: this mismatch of styles and circumstances that I think are

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Speaker 5: I want to pick the Chiefs the red hot right now,

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Speaker 5: but considering the way things are going on, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Not sure that's the Breeze Hall team. They need a

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Speaker 1: running back you can't go with Cream Hunt the rest. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I maybe they're a Remondra team. If he's somehow available,

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Speaker 3: I agree, And you know what, and I will be

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Speaker 3: the first emit. I've been really critical of the Bills

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Speaker 3: I've had good reason to be at certain points. But man,

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Speaker 3: am I impressed with this guy Dean Walker because not

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Speaker 3: having at Oliver is obviously going to hurt them. That's

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Speaker 3: a huge loss. They're getting a couple guys back, got

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Speaker 3: him back last week. And Michael Hoyt he's an inside

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Speaker 3: outside player. He leaned out when he was with the

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Speaker 3: Rams to become more of a pass rusher, but he

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Speaker 3: has the capability to lean back in and play a

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Speaker 3: little of like an even technique interior alignment. And Larry

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Speaker 3: Ogunjobi's when he's been good, he's been really good. But

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Speaker 3: this guy, this rookie out of Kentucky, is just He's

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Speaker 3: got a run stop rate of ten percent of his

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Speaker 3: snaps where he's no gain or a loss, and that

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Speaker 3: is among the best any defensive tackle, second highest among

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Speaker 3: any defensive tackle in the NFL with at least fifty

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Speaker 3: snaps per Next Gen Stats.

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Speaker 2: He is really forming the identity in the middle of

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Speaker 2: this defense and we'll to have to even do so

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Speaker 2: even more with that Oliver out.

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Speaker 1: Like, he's a great example of just just take the big,

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Speaker 1: huge athletes. Yes, he's massive, he is incredible looking. And

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Speaker 1: their pass rush was last week, so that's the hope. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they really haven't been ultra dynamic all season, but Rousseau

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Speaker 1: showed up in that game, and Joey Bosa showed up

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Speaker 1: their best pass RUSS game of the year. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: need it against you know, the best quarterback in football

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Speaker 1: once again, Patrick Mahomes. And we're back in a place

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Speaker 1: where we were a long time ago where, Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs passing game is significantly more dynamic in multiple than

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Speaker 1: the Bills. It is amazing in the NFL how identities

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Speaker 1: can change so much from one season to the next.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, if you're watching on YouTube, like you just

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Speaker 1: see the space that I think the other receivers are

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Speaker 1: going to open up for Travis Kelce, for Hollywood Brown,

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Speaker 1: like the secondary guys that Rashid Rice and Xavier Worthy

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: They they did have Tray Smith out last week. We'll

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Speaker 1: big injury to watch if if that continues, if he

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Speaker 1: continues to be out like that, that is a place

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Speaker 1: like we're like trying to build the case for the

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Speaker 4: What do you what do you think?

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean Trey Trey Smith was limited in practice

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's a good sign.

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Speaker 4: So there is that.

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Speaker 5: I'm not necessarily making a case that the game it's

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Speaker 5: it's a toss up, like at this point, these two

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Speaker 5: teams have so much familiarity. But at Oliver it's especially

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Speaker 5: the early part of the season was the defense. And

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Speaker 5: and it didn't necessarily think because you missed, you know,

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Speaker 5: the majority of the game laid against the Carolina Panthers.

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Speaker 5: That was against the twenty twenty five Carolina Panthers with

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Speaker 4: This is Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: That's fair, Andy Dalton with a busted thumb as yeah,

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Speaker 1: we four four fingered Andy Dalton, you should have pointed out, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that that dumb is like a band name is bothering

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Speaker 1: him four fingered Andy. I always look at the opposing

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Speaker 1: linebackers against like a Patrick Mahomes Andy Reid team. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you can do that with almost any good quarterback in

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Speaker 1: today's NFL, and and right now it's it's Shack Thompson

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Speaker 1: and two lane great Dorian Williams. Jack Thompson showed why

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Speaker 1: he was out there last week with that play where

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Speaker 1: he like, he points out this tunnel screen that the

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Speaker 1: Panthers are going to do, and they literally got to

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Speaker 1: pick six in part because he pointed that out. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Epenesa made a great play to pull it off. But

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Speaker 1: do the Chiefs put a circle on on both those

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Speaker 1: guys in terms of team speed and it exposed it

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Speaker 1: with players that they can flood in the middle of

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Speaker 3: I think you try to hit the perimeter against this

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Speaker 3: Bills defense a lot, because then you're avoiding what actually

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Speaker 3: is turned into strength right smack in the middle of

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Speaker 3: that defensive line. And now let me say they still

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Speaker 3: have issues shoring up against the run. But they're playing

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Speaker 3: better to me, and you're avoiding a pass rush that's

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Speaker 3: really come along, and you're getting short, quick passes and screens.

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Speaker 3: Andy Reid has the biggest screen playbook in the entire NFL.

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Speaker 3: Everybody talks about it with such reverence, all these other

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Speaker 3: And I have not seen a ton of proof that

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Speaker 1: I want to see, too, like the Chiefs defense in

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Speaker 1: a tougher spot in terms of their secondary, because I

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Speaker 1: was thinking, like, what's changed since early in the season

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Speaker 1: that we think better of this Chief's defense, And a

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Speaker 1: lot of it is they're getting good production from these

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Speaker 1: guys you've never heard of in the secondary, which is

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Speaker 1: what the Chiefs do. They signed Christian Fulton to a

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Speaker 1: big contract. He hasn't played at all. I think he

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Speaker 1: played like fifteen snaps and then he got hurt again.

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Speaker 1: But it's Noah Williams and then their safety group you

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Speaker 1: know cook Jayden Hicks has been playing pretty Welliams out there,

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Speaker 1: like some people know they know now, but maybe this

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Speaker 1: is a game that just they know him now makes

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Speaker 1: uh gotcha? Makes Josh Allen feel alive. You know, he

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Speaker 1: was coming off that MVP award and Sinners and love

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Speaker 1: and marriage and it's like, can we get can I

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Speaker 1: get as up as I used to be? I think

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Speaker 1: Patrick mahomes different people go.

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Speaker 2: We think Sinners was a high for Josh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I know it was. There was some tough

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Speaker 1: lines in it, but I think he was very proud

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Speaker 1: of his life partner and what she accomplished there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and he got to go on the press tour and

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Speaker 1: it was it was fun and then like, can you

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Speaker 1: get us up for like a week four game against whoever?

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Speaker 1: You know? No, but these are the games you live for, Patrick,

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Speaker 1: They make you feel alive.

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Speaker 4: I disagree. I think Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: Like I think so Heyo, Toddy's been trying hard all

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Speaker 1: all along, and yet he's a thousand percent more expressive

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Speaker 1: in big time games because I think he's, you know,

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Speaker 1: feeling a little more and more alive. That's what he's

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Speaker 1: doing it for the big time spots.

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Speaker 5: Yes, two very good players, very good at the things

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Monday Night football.

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Speaker 5: The Arizona Cardinals at the Dallas Cowboys, who are favored

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Speaker 5: by two and a half. The over under is fifty

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Speaker 5: four and a half. The consensus greatest player in Texas

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Speaker 5: high school football history returns. What does Kyler Murray do

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Speaker 5: for the Arizona cards It's consensus.

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Speaker 1: Ever ever it is.

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Speaker 4: It's amazing. There's not a lot of people who disagree.

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Speaker 4: And I won't say it's.

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Speaker 5: Consensus for I don't know eight billion people on the planet.

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Speaker 5: Somebody's forro Locker probably disagrees. What does it mean, Jordan

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Speaker 5: for the Arizona Cardinals, do they want Kyler Beck?

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Speaker 2: Well, he's limited that. Jonathan Gannon's been kind of playing.

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Speaker 3: KOI with the with the media about like whether Kyler

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Speaker 3: it'll be another Jacoby Brissett game. So he's kind of

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Speaker 3: been back and forth with them all week. I'm actually,

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Speaker 3: sir Patrick, you're the revenge game king, and I'm surprised

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Speaker 3: you did not.

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Speaker 1: Bring up a key, Oh, mister, revenge game.

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Speaker 2: Jenga point anga piece.

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Speaker 3: Revenge Game because on the Dallas Cowboys sideline now Clayton Adams,

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Speaker 3: the former offensive line coach for the Arizona Cardinals. Last

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Speaker 3: season when their run game was just absolutely mauling people

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Speaker 3: most of the time. A few exceptions, not opposite sideline.

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Speaker 1: Oh, the Clayton Adams and h Yeah, the stats would

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Speaker 1: like the improvement for the Cowboys and the you know,

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Speaker 2: The four injuries even before injuries.

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Speaker 1: Right, But the Cardinals and certainly Brian Schottenheimer would say,

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Speaker 2: We're a football team that's three four and one.

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Speaker 1: You can take the stats.

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Speaker 4: On offense and shove them up yours. I concerned, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, is what it is.

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Speaker 6: We want to win, you know, and people talk about, hey,

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Speaker 6: MVP and this and that.

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott doesn't want to win MVP.

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Speaker 4: You know, he once won a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Wait, we're beeping, we're beeping.

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Speaker 2: Did he say a longer word than no?

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Speaker 1: No? Because this could be a problem for Patrick's idea

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Speaker 5: Your the the rule is related to as yeah, it

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Speaker 1: But these are stats. They're just They're just things that

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Speaker 1: think that qualified, like.

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Speaker 5: Like Kyler Murray being forty two as a recording quarterback

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Speaker 1: School unless you were like crumpling up like the piece

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Speaker 1: that if it's literally like physical, like printing out pro

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Speaker 1: football reference paces, right, that would do it. I did

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Speaker 1: read Kyler Murray as we I look at the bewildered

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Speaker 1: doesn't lose here. He probably is starting.

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Speaker 2: Spurry his former coach, Yeah, and the former coach of.

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Speaker 1: That's right, he is expected to play. They are being

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the Ibralus defense, where it turns out the Washington

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Speaker 5: There were point more points that they could have scored

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Speaker 5: they didn't because this defense is what we thought it

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and look they're starting you know rookies at at cornerback,

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Speaker 3: They were getting pressed on it because Drew Petsing and

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Speaker 3: There was a lot of conversation and we don't remember

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Speaker 1: They got to get this game. I mean the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: could feel the same way. At three four and one.

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Speaker 1: It's a Monday night game. The Cardinals are two and five.

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Speaker 1: They have the third hardest remaining schedule according to FDN,

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Speaker 1: good injury news before we move on. Walter Nolan, their

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Speaker 3: Especially if they get a little extra help in their secondary,

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Speaker 1: Sounds like he has a chance to play.

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Speaker 3: But like the way that Denver was bracketing around the

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Speaker 5: It's time for the Sunday Drive presented by Toyota. Let's

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Speaker 5: go places. It is the Seattle Seahawks who are a

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Speaker 5: three point favorite at the Washington Commanders. The over under

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Speaker 5: this is Sunday Night Football, Greg. The Commanders look good

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be tough, but at least it's gonna be

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Speaker 2: Just sign the player early.

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Speaker 1: They've had such a frustrating season and they're going to

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Speaker 1: But man, they are just thin at so many different

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Speaker 3: There are two things that I think really kill the

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Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to seeing because Sam Donald has been

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Speaker 1: The Way I thought you meant Buck Seahawks four h

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Speaker 5: No, I mean, I mean everybody, I mean everybody watching

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Speaker 5: It was a complete meltdown from Sam in that situation.

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Speaker 5: the exact play I'm thinking of where Sam Darnald is

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Speaker 5: getting hit as he throws and he's already made the

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Speaker 5: decision to throw the ball to JSN. He already knows

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Speaker 5: that JSN has won on the route against one of

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Speaker 5: the better secondaries in the NFL. And if they can

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Speaker 5: do that to the Houston Texans, where I know Marshaon

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Speaker 5: Lattimore got the win, he got a chance to bullyer

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Speaker 5: Hollywood Brown and got to pick against the Chiefs. But

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Speaker 5: it's tough to imagine them bullying the way that the

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Speaker 5: Seahawks are playing right now on offense.

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Speaker 1: Andy Laramie Tunsel also out of practice on Wednesday, And man,

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Speaker 1: it's funny. These are two second year coaches and you

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Speaker 1: think about how the Commanders got out the gates. But

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Speaker 1: there aren't many teams This is crazy to say with Donald.

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Speaker 1: There aren't many teams that are in a better position,

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Speaker 1: I think long term than the Seahawks because you think

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Speaker 1: of the young players that are developing. Are the Commanders

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Speaker 1: doing that if you look at their recent drafts, like

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Speaker 1: not a ton and you have young guys like Byron

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Speaker 1: Murphy who's developing, Elijah Royo is becoming a good player.

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Speaker 4: And Nick Eman.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like in this in the secondary.

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Speaker 2: Call the third safety. We love it, like you're.

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Speaker 1: Gonna the biggest nickel corner.

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Speaker 4: In this show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's the power slot of like that

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Speaker 3: which we see from receivers.

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Speaker 1: Like then, now you don't even know how you're gonna

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Speaker 1: use him because presumably I think Devin Witherspoon will finally

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Speaker 1: be back for this game, and Julian Love who hasn't

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Speaker 1: been out there, and they just they have an identity,

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Speaker 1: They have a system man settle minus three that might

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Speaker 1: be coming up on my show H with Cynthia Oh

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Speaker 1: a little later in this week, let's take a break

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna wrap up the Week nine slate a

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Speaker 1: little later. Yeah, those prime day games aren't like good

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Speaker 1: this week.

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Speaker 4: What do you mean?

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Speaker 1: I just mean this early games are better. The early

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Speaker 1: Every Wednesday, we take a journey here Chris Westling Podcast Studio.

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Speaker 1: We start just as young, innocent people and by the

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Speaker 1: end they just feel old and grizzled. We've made it

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Speaker 1: to the end of the line the last couple of games.

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling, by the way, would really be enjoying this

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor season. That's a completely random thought that just

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Speaker 1: popped into my head. But he loved him some. Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Taylor back in that COVID twenty twenty season.

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Speaker 4: And a great season that he's having.

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Speaker 1: He's not playing in one of these two games coming

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Speaker 1: up by I threw you for a loop because I

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Speaker 1: wanted to test to you as a host.

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Speaker 5: I'm looking down I will fail that test every single time.

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Speaker 2: Greg to talk about my friend Patrick, that not a good.

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Speaker 4: Pop quiz guy. Now your friend Patrick knows not his

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Speaker 4: strong suit.

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Speaker 5: Jacksonville Jaguars had a chance to rest on the bye

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Speaker 5: and maybe chance to rest here week nine as well.

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Speaker 5: Three and a half point favorites against the Las Vegas Raiders.

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Speaker 5: The over under is forty five and a half. Chris

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Speaker 5: Myers and Mark Larre on the call. But Jordan, it's

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Speaker 5: different now it's Tyler Lockett's back with Gino and coach Pete.

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Speaker 5: What's it gonna mean?

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Speaker 3: Deep side from Greg? Did you know you did that?

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Speaker 3: That was very audible. Yeah, yeah, it's Uh. Well, I

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Speaker 3: think we're going to see a lot from the Jaguars

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Speaker 3: offense if I can just just start there, because this

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Speaker 3: what I really think is we're going to see We

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Speaker 3: always talk about coaches coming out of a bye We've

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Speaker 3: never seen Liam Cohen come out of a bye week

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Speaker 3: as a head coach and what he can do to

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Speaker 3: make this passing game, especially look more cohesive. I've been

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Speaker 3: really impressed with, for the most part way that they've

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Speaker 3: been able to run the ball in Jacksonville all year,

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Speaker 3: but this passing game has felt disjointed. Developing a like

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Speaker 3: truer identity I think for Travis Hunter is big. They've talked,

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Speaker 3: there's been a little conversation about that over the last

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Speaker 3: couple of weeks, of maybe getting more involved on offense

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Speaker 3: as well. And his target share has gone up over

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Speaker 3: the last couple of games too, while his target share

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Speaker 3: on or excuse me, his snapshare on defense has gone down.

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Speaker 3: But also, you know, getting all of these receivers on

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Speaker 3: the same page, getting a clean game from Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 3: It's all of these things at once. Getting this offensive

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Speaker 3: line playing like it started the year, as which I

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Speaker 3: think they can against a pretty decimated Raiders front that

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Speaker 3: only really has Max Crosby rushing the passer right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm curious what the Raiders like look like on

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Speaker 1: offense coming out because the last couple of games before

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Speaker 1: the bye I wanted to start calling them the don't

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Speaker 1: want to be here offense.

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Speaker 2: Just like that really rings up that tongue.

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Speaker 1: They just were the I just don't want to be

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Speaker 1: here anymore. They did not look like they wanted to

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Speaker 1: play professional football anymore. They weren't really trying. They won

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Speaker 1: one of those two games by the way it was

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Speaker 1: against the Titans and like they didn't let Gino throw

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Speaker 1: the ball more than four yards, and then the next

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Speaker 1: week against the Chiefs is just like the energy and

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Speaker 1: the lack of ambition, Like it felt like they were

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Speaker 1: aiming to be less than mediocre and they couldn't even

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Speaker 1: get there. And they will have Brock Bowers back, that's

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Speaker 1: obviously just huge, and they will presumably have Jacobe Myers back,

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Speaker 1: who says, yes, I would like to be traded and

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Speaker 1: still and maybe he will. That was what I thought

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Speaker 1: that Tyler Lockett signing could be about. But that's a

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Speaker 1: pretty big downgrade if that's what they do.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to be here.

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Speaker 5: Also, famously, the Eric Bledsoe tweet from twenty seventeen when

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Speaker 5: he was just he was done in Phoenix and tweeted,

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Speaker 5: I don't want to and it worked out.

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Speaker 4: So shout out to that.

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Speaker 5: And I don't want to mump on this game too

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Speaker 5: much because we've got to, uh the two Heisman finalists

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Speaker 5: from last year facing off against each other literally, because

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Speaker 5: Travis plays both ways, Unlike in some matchups when we

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Speaker 5: say guys are going head to head, they see each other.

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Speaker 5: Travis hunder and Ashton Genty could play against each other

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Speaker 5: on the same play. There's excitement there and a chance

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Speaker 5: to see how they incorporate him into the offense a

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Speaker 5: little bit more. Perhaps is the primary receiver in some

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Speaker 5: situations here against the Raiders defense, where yeah, you can

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Speaker 5: you can work.

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Speaker 1: I believe that when I see it, because he's just

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Speaker 1: been a slot only guy and they force fed him

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Speaker 1: the ball in what was ultimately garbage time against the Rams.

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Speaker 3: And you can be a primary sever out of the slot, sure,

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Speaker 3: but he especially did that with Chris Godwin a couple

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Speaker 3: of years.

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Speaker 1: I'd love to see it, but he seems like he

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Speaker 1: has further to go. It's the same conversation every week,

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Speaker 1: like on offense than he does on defense, where like

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Speaker 1: he's putting up really good reps against like Devantias. That's

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Speaker 1: it is, and it is very value that he can

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Speaker 1: do that because I think he's their best outside corner back.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the consistent problem for Travis Hunter, the wide receiver.

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Speaker 5: It's not technique or reps or understanding the offense. It's

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Speaker 5: Travis Huner the cornerback, is the best cornerback for the

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Speaker 5: Jacksonville Jaguars.

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Speaker 1: Well and Annett, Trevor Lawrence is throwing him the ball,

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Speaker 1: and Trevor Lawrence hasn't been consistently accurate or at least

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Speaker 1: comfortable in this system. So that used to be something

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence was really good at, was pocket presence. With

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Speaker 1: all of his defenders early in his career were like, well,

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Speaker 1: he avoids sack, he's good in the like that. Trevor

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Speaker 1: Lawrence needs to come back, because to me, he's not

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Speaker 1: good in the pocket right now. He is taking sacks.

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Speaker 1: A lot of the sacks the last few weeks were

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Speaker 1: on him.

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Speaker 3: And he has the worst completion percentage in the NFL

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Speaker 3: against zone coverage right now. And so this is like,

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Speaker 3: you have to be better when you're a spatial manipulation offense,

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Speaker 3: which is what Liam Cohen wants to be, you have

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Speaker 3: to be better at throwing zone and he's just not.

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Speaker 3: And so that's where I'm like, Okay, this offensive scheme,

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Speaker 3: especially in the past games, it's out of the same

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Speaker 3: coaching tree that we see all over the league. It

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Speaker 3: is built to Floyd zoning defenses.

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Speaker 2: And when you have a quarterback who is like statistically the.

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Speaker 3: Worst in the NFL throwing against zone coverage right now

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Speaker 3: according to next Gen stats, like that's a huge problem.

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Speaker 1: Well, we got Pete Carroll and man heavy team without

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Speaker 1: a lot of like talent here for the Raiders to

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Speaker 1: hopefully solve it. Maybe they're not being heavy at no.

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Speaker 2: There's zone. There's zone more they're eighty four percent of

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Speaker 2: their snaps.

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Speaker 5: Perhaps a team wide edict, sit down in the windows.

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Speaker 2: We're not carrying something in the windows.

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Speaker 5: In the windows, you get there, you look for Trevor,

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Speaker 5: you don't move, and then maybe everybody will feel a

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Speaker 5: little bit safer. Over the middle of the Jacksonville Jaguars,

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Speaker 5: You guys ready to get to our last game?

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Speaker 4: Let's do it?

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Speaker 5: Sure because Tyler Shuck, he's gonna Vander of the season.

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Speaker 5: Jordan Rodrigue's taking on the Los Angeles Rams, who are

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Speaker 5: favored by fourteen points. They're gonna do it at so

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Speaker 5: FI Stadium. Welcome to the league, rookie. Here's the Rams

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Speaker 5: defensive front, the over unders forty three and a half,

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Speaker 5: Kenny Albert and Jonathan Vilma are there.

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Speaker 4: How do you expect this one to go?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 2: What could go wrong? Honestly?

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Speaker 3: For Tyler Shuck against one of the most exciting young

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Speaker 3: group of pass rushers and interior defensive linemen in the

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Speaker 3: entire NFL, also coming off of a bye, also with

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Speaker 3: their defensive coordinator scheming really well around some deficiencies that

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Speaker 3: they've had on the perimeter, without Darius Williams, without a

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Speaker 3: Kella Witherspoon, Well they've had Darius Wills, he's banged up

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Speaker 3: without being able to play as aggressive in coverage, that

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Speaker 3: pass rush is getting home. I just think they're going

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Speaker 3: to be an absolute nightmare for Tyler Shuck, who has,

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Speaker 3: in Greg's words, seen a lot of football.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't seen a lot from the field though, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like he's seen it from the

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Speaker 1: five people. Yeah, I get it. I just mean Spencer

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Speaker 1: Ratler is a much more experienced quarterback, Which is another

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Speaker 1: reason to get Shuck on the field in a way,

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Speaker 1: is that this guy just hasn't started a lot of

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Speaker 1: games in his career despite that age, because of all

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Speaker 1: the injuries that he had out his college career. I

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Speaker 1: think if you're going to look at a positive and

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Speaker 1: and I think he was okay when he came in

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Speaker 1: last week, maybe he'll give these receivers more one on

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Speaker 1: one opportunities. Rattler was playing it pretty close to the vest.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they've earned it, Like Alves had

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Speaker 1: a lot of drops, like they've they've lost contested catches.

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Speaker 1: Juwan Johnson's had a lot of drops. But maybe a

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Speaker 1: little daring, do a little throw it up to these guys,

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Speaker 1: because that should be advantage on paper for the Saints

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Speaker 1: in this matchup. Are the receivers versus those Rams corners

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Speaker 1: should be I mean, they're much more talented. Shaheed is.

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Speaker 4: There's been, there's there's been, just.

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Speaker 5: A little bit those guys, I do think because I

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Speaker 5: know there's there's Bill Bill's fans out.

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Speaker 4: There who have, like Rashid Shaheed dreams.

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Speaker 5: It seems like the pay structure uh here where like

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Speaker 5: it wouldn't make a lot of sense to me for

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Speaker 5: the Saints to trade the one asset that they're not

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Speaker 5: spending a lot of money away.

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Speaker 1: I keep hearing it's like that teams would rather, you know,

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Speaker 1: teams would want Rashid Shaheed like the most of the Saints.

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Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, yeah, of course, yeah, he's great.

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Speaker 1: So with you would you would think? So this is

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Speaker 1: a big game here because here's what the Rams haven't

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Speaker 1: done in eight weeks into the season. They haven't beaten

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Speaker 1: an NFC team. What a weird schedule. They are five

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Speaker 1: and zero against the AFC. They they finish their AFC schedule.

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Speaker 1: They they are the champions of the AFC South and

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Speaker 1: they also beat the Ravens in that like one extra game.

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Speaker 1: That's very strange. They're oh and two in the NFC.

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Speaker 1: They gotta start stacking up some conference wins.

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Speaker 3: Hu Kunakua and Rob Havenstein should both be back this week.

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Speaker 3: They're limited early in the week in practice, but Seaw

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Speaker 3: mcfay told reporters that they're trending in the right direction.

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Speaker 3: That guy has no poker face, so I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 3: he's telling the truth here that they'll be back. This

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Speaker 3: is also stick with me here, a bit of a

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Speaker 3: Brandon Staley revenge game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, but inverted.

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Speaker 3: But inverted because Brandon Staley was the one who got

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Speaker 3: the job over Chris Shula several years ago, and now

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Speaker 3: Krishula is coordinating one of the best defenses in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: So it's a reverse revenge game, right, No, yeah, no's

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Speaker 3: he did bring mored into a head coaching position because

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Speaker 3: he coordinated Sean mcvay's defense.

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Speaker 2: I am everyone's friends.

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Speaker 4: So we've been surviving, guys, Yeah, we have survived.

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Speaker 1: We've been thriving now with some big names, not just surviving.

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Speaker 1: We haven't had to sweat sweat went out.

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Speaker 5: In fact, you could say I think one, two, three, four, five.

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Speaker 5: These are the top five offenses in the NFL. We

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Speaker 5: do not have the bills available anymore. We don't have

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Speaker 5: the lines available. We don't have the Packers Chiefs or

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Speaker 5: Danny Dimes in the Indianapolis Colts. So I ask you,

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Speaker 5: if the coach shula revenge game against Brandon Staley, are

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Speaker 5: we taking the rams to keep taking these top offenses?

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Speaker 1: We're gonna it's gonna be yes.

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Speaker 4: We're not gonna have a lot.

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Speaker 5: To choose from here in a few weeks. Do we

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Speaker 5: want to get risky now or later?

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of shocked to show with me on its

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Speaker 2: way to.

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Speaker 1: Pick the I think it's easy. I was thinking of

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Speaker 1: getting frisky with the Seahawks on the road, but what

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Speaker 1: why why go crazy on the road, especially against Jayden

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Speaker 1: Daniels when you have Tyler Chuck at home. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: there'll be some Saints fans here, of course, they're familiar.

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Speaker 1: I saw Tyler shuck in the preseason against the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: I can't even remember it was the Chargers. Yeah, he

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Speaker 1: he knows what to do. He knows where to football.

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Speaker 1: You go to the locker. Yeah, well, let's go Rams.

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Speaker 1: Rams is our choice. Good luck to the Rams. We're

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Speaker 1: all counting on you. We've been on fire all season.

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Speaker 1: We really are. I think I think we sweated out

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Speaker 1: like a half with the Bills in Week four. I

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Speaker 1: forget what that game was where the Titans started out

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Speaker 1: a little fast in that game, and then since then

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Speaker 1: it's just been like kicking our feet up and and

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Speaker 1: just enjoying a big, fat, blowout fun week here in

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Speaker 1: the studio. Yes, but we're not done yet. We learned

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Speaker 1: a lot. We learned about the different ways you can

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Speaker 1: use the word in this show. I think that one

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Speaker 1: is okay, I don't remember.

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Speaker 5: Well, yes, well in the show, and that is if

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Speaker 5: the show was if there was.

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Speaker 1: A conversion, it's definitely not in the show. That's going

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Speaker 1: to be airing on the NFL channel. By the way,

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Speaker 1: we never remind people, but you can check us out

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Speaker 1: on the free over the air NFL channel if you

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Speaker 1: have Wi Fi over the air, yeah or whatever. I

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Speaker 1: guess I guess that's true, which is a you know

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Speaker 1: it's on Roku or whatever. You can also check us

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Speaker 1: out on YouTube. We always appreciate if you like if

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Speaker 1: you subscribe, leave us a comment on Apple and Spotify.

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Speaker 1: We haven't asked for that in a while. Five stars please.

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Speaker 1: We will be back Thursday and we will be making

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Speaker 1: picks and we will be talking Thursday night football Schuki

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Speaker 1: and I will see either mhm