1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Ron Anian. Someone always says to me, what are you 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: talking about this week? I don't know? What are you 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: talking about? The ship? I don't know. I can get 4 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: down to five minutes before the show and the answer 5 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 1: is still I don't know. And the reason is because 6 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: I don't know which one of the fifteen topics to 7 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: talk about that I want to talk about. Doctor Newton 8 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: got back the Car Doctor. First of all, this is 9 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: Toyota wus fluid. This is there never needs to be 10 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: replaced fluid. Look at that a car company line to 11 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: the inside of a hatch right because things are breaking 12 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: down and you know it just gets worn out. Welcome 13 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: to the radio home of Ron and Anian, the Car Doctor, 14 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: since this is where car owners the world overturned to 15 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics 16 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: giving you a busy signal, pick up the phone and 17 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: call in their ros do orders are open, but I 18 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: am here to take their calls. At eight five five 19 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: five six and now running. But I do know what 20 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about this hour as I could go 21 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: up this week with the Car Doctor. And thanks for 22 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:19,199 Speaker 1: joining us here at zero zero Rondineining and at your service. 23 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: I do know what I'm gonna talk about, and it's 24 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: actually I want to stay with the original thought that 25 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: I had in my head leaving the gym this morning 26 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: because I have that illness called cross fit where I 27 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: go to the gym every every day now and um, 28 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: somebody accused me of being in a cult, and I said, 29 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 1: it's a great cult to be and trust me, compared 30 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: to some of the other things I sent out the 31 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: scene out there, we're not wearing tinfoil hats and we're 32 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: not running around, you know, real crazy stuff. So it's 33 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: wrong with an old man trying to do push ups 34 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: pull ups. That's another story. I was leaving the gym 35 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: today and the great thing about the gym I go 36 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: to is there are you know, there are younger people 37 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: there and it's nice to see younger families and listen 38 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: in on their car questions and car problems, and you know, 39 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: they're all looking around for answers. And don't tell them 40 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: what I do because they really don't know. They just 41 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: think I'm this guy in the corner, you know, just 42 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: trying to work out, and I don't tell them. I 43 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: just let it. Rod Diana I think is her name, 44 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 1: she's figured it out, and she listens to the podcast 45 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 1: and when we have you know, the radio show. She 46 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 1: hasn't found the radio show on on on local yet, 47 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: but she's she's become a podcaster, and her husband's become 48 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: a podcaster. And she had a question for me today 49 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: about cars and what to buy. And they're looking at 50 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: you know, they're looking around at cars, and her husband 51 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: wants to buy a pickup truck. And it was, it was, 52 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: it was kind of funny. Diana's Diana is a short 53 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: little thing. She's probably all of you know, four ft 54 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: ten five ft. And she said, you know, she wanted 55 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: a Silverado pick up. And I happen to have the 56 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: plow truck with me that day, and you know, a 57 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: Chevy Silverado, just standard height, standard everything. That's a pretty 58 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: big truck, right, So I said, here getting this and 59 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: she kind of climbed up into that and she looked around. 60 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: She said, well this is she could almost see over 61 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: the steering wheel. Um, it was, you know, gee, this 62 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: is too big for me. I said, well, you know, 63 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: it's so you show your husband wants one of these. 64 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: Show Oh yeah, my husband was okay. And then we 65 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: had the question in the conversation about the buyer deal lease, 66 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: and that's really what this opened is about. You know, 67 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: years ago and when our kids were smaller, my wife 68 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: always drove older Chevy and Palace. They were very plentiful. 69 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: Remember four door Chevy and Palace. And I'm dating myself 70 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: a little bit here, but they were just big boxes, right, 71 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: big four door metal tanks that you know, you could 72 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: do anything too. They were easy to take care of. 73 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: You can open up all four doors, hose them out, 74 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: shake them out, and give them back to the next 75 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: day and start grinding the captain crunch right into the 76 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: back seat again, like they did so well as little kids. 77 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: My kids, God love them. But what do you do 78 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: as a parent today? It's there are no five thousand 79 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: dollars Chevy and Palace anymore. You know, everything today is 80 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: fifteen and twenty grand and I know everything is relative 81 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: and cost is relative, but there are no cheap older cars, 82 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: the Elease or Darby. I think car purchases, being as 83 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: expensive as they are, have become as much a family 84 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: major purchase decision as anything else in the world today. 85 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: You know, it's house. I think it's house. Uh, it's 86 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: it's kids, then house then transportation and then college kind 87 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: of comes out in the top five of major expenses 88 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: that families go through during their during their cycle as 89 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: a family. And you know, the answer I gave her is, 90 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: you need to look at the dollars. If you lease 91 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: a vehicle, what is that going to cost per month 92 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: plus the down payment, plus what is the ability to 93 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: purchase damage insurance? And I actually didn't cover that with her, 94 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: and I'll catch up with her that on Monday. And 95 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: I think that's sort of the answer. If you can 96 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: afford that lifestyle of a lease, if you can afford 97 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: down and three a month and for three years you're 98 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 1: driving this and you have no mechanical headaches, You've you've 99 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: got to warrantee the vehicle, uh you know, is not yours, 100 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: it's theirs, and it's their's to fix and maintain, to 101 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: provide you with the transportation. That's a good thing, but 102 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: you've got to realize, as I told Diana coming out 103 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: of the gym this morning, that you're also going to 104 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: get to repeat that cycle in three more years or 105 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: two and a half years, whatever the number is, however 106 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: long the lease is, and after a while that gets 107 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: to be expensive. I think I calculated that the average 108 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: lease over a two and a half year lease, the 109 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: average cost is about um. I think it's ten thousand dollars. 110 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: And if you started adding it up, what are you spending? 111 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: Add up three fifty a month put down bucks, and 112 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: I think it comes out to it just around bucks. 113 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: So it's ten grand every three years over the course 114 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: of ten years. It's a lot of money. Difference in 115 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: my mind is at the end of ten years, if 116 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: you own in the vehicle, you still got something to sell. 117 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: Now you've had repair costs along the way. Hopefully they've 118 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: been minimal, and that's part of it too, But it's 119 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: just how you look at it, and that's just so 120 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: gosh ed aren't important. It really is leasing as a lifestyle, 121 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying it's a bad one. You've just 122 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: got to make sure it's one you can't afford. You've 123 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: got to make sure that it's one that you're you know, 124 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: you're you're able to deal with. What triggered the conversation 125 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: was her sister, who lives the other side of the 126 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: county that we're in here in New Jersey, has a 127 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: BMW that she was told needs a transmission it's a 128 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: it's an oh six BMW and you know, is that possible? 129 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: And we we had that conversation and I explained to 130 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: her what they need to look for and what what 131 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: they need to find in the way of a mechanic 132 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: because you need a BMW specific repair shop or something 133 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 1: like that. It's BMW's are just getting to be to 134 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: that point of complication that they're just it's a necessary component. 135 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: But the biggest part of it was what to buy 136 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: and how to pay for it. So I thought, you know, 137 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: there's an awful lot of you young families out there, 138 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: and I suspect, you know, hopefully some of you are listening, 139 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: and you know, what are you buying? I don't really 140 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: talk about what to buy. How do you make that decision? 141 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: I think it's it's it's what's in the family budget. 142 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: What is your mindset? If you have small children in 143 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: this car, you know, under ten years old, I think 144 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: you've got to expect somewhere and tear on the car's interior, 145 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: and I think you've got to be prepared for that. 146 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: You know, there are things out there when you're leasing 147 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: a vehicle, um lease insurance that will cover you know, 148 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: you could I don't recommend to do this, but you 149 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: can set off a hand grenade inside the car and 150 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: you're you're covered. I'm being facetious, but you get my point, um, 151 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: you know. And I think that's something to stop and consider, 152 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: because again, it's that lifestyle thing. It's it's what's it 153 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: gonna cost? And I see an awful lot of people 154 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: trash a lot of cars and nothing like trash and 155 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: something you know own as long as it's covered by 156 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: insurance and it's not your it's not your problem if 157 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: you do own it, if you are going to buy 158 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: the car. As I told Diana, I said, the first 159 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: question I always ask is who's going to work on it. 160 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: If you've got a mechanic that you've been going to 161 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: for years and years that you trust, that you have 162 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: that relationship with, you should be asking them, Hey, what 163 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: can you work on? What is your shop geared towards? 164 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: Not because not every shop can work on everything anymore, 165 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: it's just an impossibility. It's really come down to more 166 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: and more the industry is going to specialization, primarily because 167 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: of the electronics involved, primarily because of the costs of 168 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: tooling and software and service, information and special tools, and 169 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: you know, it's every time you turn around, there's just 170 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: another thing to buy or purchase, or another specialty something. 171 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: So a lot of good questions, a lot of good 172 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: comments from her, Um, I hope I sent her away 173 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: with some valuable information. But for you, I think the 174 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: point of this is, if you're thinking of buying a 175 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: replacement vehicle. You notice I didn't say no. If you're 176 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: thinking of buying a replacement vehicle, the what to buy, 177 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: where to buy, and how to buy are really things 178 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: you have to stop and consider. Who's gonna work on it, 179 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: what's in the budget, how long do you plan to 180 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 1: keep it? You know, I was telling Diana that, you know, 181 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: when your kids get to be ten, eleven, twelve years old, 182 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: I think that was a critical time for us our 183 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: family that we looked down the road and said, you know, 184 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: in six years, hopefully we're taking kids to college. What 185 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: kind of vehicle do we want to take them to 186 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: college in? And what kind of vehicle can we afford 187 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: now so we don't have to buy it when they're 188 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: in college, because obviously college is a major expense, and 189 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: no matter how well you're prepared for it, I think 190 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: unless your last name is Rockefeller. I don't think you're 191 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: prepared for it. There's always some extra surprise or some 192 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: little widget or something that you have to buy that 193 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: you weren't counting on. So um cars are You're part 194 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: of your life. You have to plan for it, you 195 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 1: have to be prepared for it, and uh, just be aware. 196 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: Just start asking questions, start thinking about it before you 197 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: box yourself into a corner. Let me say hello to 198 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: Mr Ray. How are you today? Mr Ray? You look 199 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: you look well up there? Yes, so um house things 200 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: in your end of the world dizzy, Yeah, yeah, you 201 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: look well. I hear an echo. You fixed it and 202 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: and and in our case, vet school showed up well right, 203 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: and your case, vet school showed up right, and and 204 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: she went to VET school. Tom, can I ask is 205 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: it too personal? How much this VET school costs? Nowadays? 206 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: That was about three four years? Three thousand dollars over 207 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:45,719 Speaker 1: the course of four years. Wow, so yeah, wow, not 208 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: not chill. But plus it's graduate school, so there's no dorm. 209 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: You have to go find someplace to live. And you know, 210 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 1: so it was it was four thousand dollars. Yeah, probably 211 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: close to that. Well, you're a high roller. I didn't 212 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: realize that. Hey, but then again, I had a daughter 213 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: who had the aptitude. So well, that's right. Sarah just 214 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: kind of tour right through it. So she did very well. Um, 215 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 1: let's pull over, take a pause, we'll come back. We'll 216 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: open up the phone lines. I'm runing any of the 217 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. Tom Ray, executive producer. We'll both be back 218 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: right after this. Don't go away. Stop when you get 219 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: keep Ron's number handy eight five five five six zero 220 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero for when you really need advice 221 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: on your car. Here's Rob. Hey, let's get over to 222 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: Paul in Long Island. Paul, welcome to the Car Doctor, Sir, 223 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: how can I help an afternoon? Ron? Thanks for taking 224 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: my cool You're welcome. I have a two thousand and 225 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: one S ten Chevy pick up. I'm getting the codes 226 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 1: T zero, one seven eight and one seven nine. What 227 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 1: engine is in this, Paul? It's the two point four. Um, 228 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: it's sort of diagnoses into it. Nothing so far. I 229 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: was just going to check with you first, so I 230 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: don't waste time like I usually do. I figured I 231 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 1: try and hit the important points first. UM, you know, 232 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: are you sure it's one seven eight and one seven nine? 233 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: You're sure it's not one seven injected a few I 234 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: was gonna say, you sure it's not one seven one 235 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: and one seven four. No, definitely not. The light has 236 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: gone off a few times. Initially I thought I brought 237 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 1: gas from one of those inexpensive gas stations two times, 238 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: and when it started so I went, you know, I 239 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: ran the tank down as best I could, filled it 240 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: up with a brand name, and it went off a 241 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: few days later for a day. Then it came back 242 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: on again, so I ran the tank down some more 243 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: and filled it up again with a brand name gas 244 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: and it's It's been on and off a couple of times, 245 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: but not any kind of a set pattern where I 246 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: can say that that had anything to do with it. 247 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: So one seven and one seven nine aren't the most 248 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: common one in the world. They're specific to the fourth cylinder. 249 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: They have to do with the alcohol content of the vehicle, 250 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: of the fuel itself. This could be this could be 251 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: the fuel that you're purchasing. This could be a problem 252 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 1: with the sensor in the tank. Um have you been 253 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: using And I'm sorry I didn't I didn't catch this 254 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: if I'm repeating myself, but are you are you still 255 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: purchasing the same fuel. Are you consistent from one place 256 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 1: versus you know, spreading yourself around to various different stations, 257 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: or do you tend to be in one spot? No, 258 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: I don't generally buy from any one particular. It's always 259 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: brand name. But I don't seem to focus on any 260 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: particular ones wherever I am, as long as it's a 261 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 1: brand name, right And and all you're getting is the 262 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: light at this point, and you're not getting UM symptoms, okay. UM. 263 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: Fuel composition sensor is what you want to go looking for. UM, 264 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: Do you get a one forty one with it? No, 265 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 1: just that I've done it. I've scanned it three times 266 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: so far, and it's always those two code al right. Well, 267 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: the next step would be unless you've got a what 268 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: are you using generic O B D two? Okay? So 269 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: the next step would be if you could get something 270 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: with your making model, you may actually find something that 271 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: displays the alcohol content of the vehicle UM to actually 272 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: show you the content. The other thing is the fuel 273 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: composition sensor is mounted on the top of the frame 274 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: rail right side of the engine. All right. If if 275 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: you went on key on engine off, UM, you know 276 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: you should look at the fuel composition if you go 277 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: to the white wire on the fuel composition sensor, you're 278 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: gonna see like fifty hurts showing its zero percent alcohol 279 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: and a hundred thirty five hurts is alcohol. And then 280 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: if you wanted to, you could go and take a 281 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: fuel sample and get the alcohol content measured and then 282 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: see how close it is to the sensor. You may 283 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: have a bad sensor. Sensors are not inexpensive with one 284 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: of those inexpensive both medias that does frequency. With that, 285 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: anything that measures frequency, anything that measures frequency will do it. 286 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: So you know, chances are this is a bad part, 287 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: not bad fuel. So you know, the question here becomes 288 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: of how do you test it? But that's your range, 289 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: all right, Um, you know zero percent zero percent would 290 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: indicate uh you know you'd see forty nine hurts on 291 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: the frequency scale and dent alcohol. Uh you know it's 292 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: you're probably going to be at ten percent alcohol. You 293 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: have to do the math or math and and subtracted out. 294 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: So you know, we'll use round numbers that aren't real. 295 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: If if you're ten percent alcohol, my guess would be 296 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: you'd see sixty hurts, Okay, something like that. Um no, 297 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm the other way around, you'd see a 298 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: six you see like a d hurts hundred five hurts uh, 299 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: you know, um, but I've got a feeling you're going 300 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: to find that you may also just see, you know, 301 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: if it's got fuel in it. Think of it like this. 302 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: If it's got fuel in it across the sensor and 303 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: you're testing it and it's showing you zero percent alcohol, 304 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: that's that's kind of impossible, right right. Theoretically, yes, because 305 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: you know that, I'm thinking one of these thinking the 306 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: soft branch station may have gotten a load of the 307 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: or those higher alcoholic contents and maybe that that was 308 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: what might have started it off. But I think that 309 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: theory was wrong. Well yeah, because it really can't. It 310 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: really can't. It has to be able to adjust for everywhere. Okay, 311 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: what if it doesn't know you're in Long Island, right, 312 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: You're in Long Island, New York. Right, it doesn't know 313 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: you're in Long Island. Maybe it maybe we went to 314 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: Indiana or you know, Arizona or you know. Um, the 315 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 1: vehicle has to be able to work anywhere in North 316 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: America or whoever GM is licensed to sell it for 317 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: that model year. So it's a fair thought. But just listen, 318 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: I fall into that trap to well maybe no, it's 319 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: got to work in Florida, California, Texas and all points 320 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: in between. UM, you know, so it's just a good 321 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: thought to keep in your head, all right, kidd. One point, 322 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: if this means anything was inspected. There's a notice and 323 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: I don't remember what it says, but there's a notice 324 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: from the New York State about the eight five on 325 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 1: that vehicle. Does that ring any bell with you? UM? 326 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: Probably that they There was something in New Jersey too, 327 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 1: and it's talked specifically that, UM, e eighty five. You 328 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 1: know what the heck was it. I don't think it's 329 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: causing your problem. I don't think it has anything to 330 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: do with your problem. But there was some issues with 331 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: eighty five and how it was rated and ranked and 332 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: how we approached repairing it. But I think that has 333 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: now gone a a in New Jersey. So do those 334 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 1: tests that I said, Paul, call me back if you 335 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: need more. But you're on the right path. Zero. The 336 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: car doctor is coming back right after this boom back, 337 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: we're on any of the car doctor before we go 338 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: to the next call, Tom, real quick, did anybody see 339 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: the article? And it's actually I found it on CNN. 340 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 1: I found it in the New York Times. Uh, it's 341 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: it's kind of staggering. US identifies vast mineral riches in Afghanistan. 342 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: Why are we talking about this on the news. I 343 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: can't get political. I won't get political, Tom, I promise, 344 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: but I don't know what. We're not talking about it 345 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: on the news. If you I happen to find that 346 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: on a Facebook thing, if you read the article, the 347 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: previously unknown deposits include huge veins of iron, copper, cobolt, 348 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: call gold, and wait for it, industrial metals like lithium. Now, 349 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: let's see what's been in the news lately that needed lithium. 350 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, electric cars? So wait a minute. Are 351 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: you telling me Afghanistan is going to become the next 352 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia in lithium deposits? Is that where this is going? 353 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: Holy cow? I don't know. I'm just a dumbloati mechanic. 354 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: What do I know. Let's go over to Alex and Io. 355 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: Let's see how smart I am Alex before I continue 356 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: on that vein no pun intended? Um, how are you? 357 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: How are you today? Sir? Here? You know it's it's 358 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: just it's just all common sense. Brother, So um, God 359 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: bless you farmers. I'll tell you what it's farms are 360 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 1: just amazing places. I'll tell you what. You want to 361 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: meet some of the nicest people with the most common sense. 362 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: Go talk to a farmer for five minutes. It's just 363 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 1: you know, um, you know, like you guys, are you 364 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: guys are all the small ones? Like you know, don't 365 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: go stand out in the middle of the cornfield holding 366 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: an umbrella. It's what. It's amazing how you learned that 367 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: trick right? Like you don't do that, um, you know 368 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,479 Speaker 1: in a lightning storm. But uh, good lord, how can 369 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: I help you today? Sir? Well, I've got an oh 370 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: three Chevy pickup as for old drive six oh gas 371 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: and uh, I've had an issue well um for probably 372 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 1: a year now, and it's kind of coming gone. Um. 373 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: It has a reduced engine power light that are and 374 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: then the of course the check engine lighter the mill 375 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: comes on. UM. And so I took it into a 376 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: local mechanic, highly spoken, well respected, and he usually does 377 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: a really good job. But he just could not find it. Um. 378 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: He had had all kinds of codes, throttle position sensor, UH, 379 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: throttle body UM t a c all these different ones 380 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: and UH. He wound up putting on a throttle body 381 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 1: and it seemed to fix it. And so I took 382 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: it home, drove it for month or so, and it 383 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: came back. UM. So I took it back. In long 384 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: story short, he had it several times. UM would do 385 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 1: little things here and there. UM. The last time he 386 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: was so swamped. He said, my computer is He says, 387 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's the throttle body has gone bad again. 388 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 1: So he had one. I took it, I put it on. 389 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: That lasted for about two months, and then that light 390 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: came back on. So I took it to the chivy dealer, 391 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: thinking well, maybe they have a different scan tool. UM. 392 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: And they went through it. They found a connection they 393 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: thought was the issue. They fixed that. UM. They said, 394 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: the the well, the the there's one of the codes 395 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: as a p O six fifty the m I l 396 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: uh circuit control circuit malfunction. UM. He said that is 397 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: an internal thing with the PCM. He says that that 398 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: is something that indicates there's a possibility that the PCM 399 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: needs replaced. UM. And but before I went any further 400 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: in this whole process, I wanted to call you and 401 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: see what you think there's there's still um like a 402 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: p O one two oh, the throttle position sensor, p 403 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: O one five four, p O one s oh, p 404 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: O three three two two one three five. You know. 405 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: So it's an old farm truck. I don't want to 406 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: pour a ton of money into it. But at the 407 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: same time, I don't like sitting alongside of the road 408 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: with a trailer online. Well yeah, because maybe we're maybe 409 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: we're holding maybe we're holding the day's crops, and we 410 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 1: don't want to do that either, So we don't want 411 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: to get stuck out at the market. UM. So let 412 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: me ask you. Let me ask you a couple of questions. 413 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 1: Alex uh, the the connector that the dealership spoke of, 414 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: did they repair it? Do you know? Did they replace 415 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: it or what did they do? I think they repaired 416 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: it and the local shop of course, so it's like 417 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: third hand that I'm here in this um. He said 418 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 1: that the connector had absolutely nothing to do with the 419 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 1: codes that were being set, but apparently there was a 420 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: bear wire and he didn't know if it was back 421 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: feeding something or what was the was the connector at 422 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 1: the throttle body or where was the connector? It was 423 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: not at the throttle body. The connector at the throttle 424 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 1: body has been replaced, UM soldered in now and uh 425 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: and replaced and and but that was not the connector 426 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: that UM was originally at. Far for one of the 427 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 1: things originally at faults only because and understand, from my 428 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 1: seat here, I have to be critical of everybody. Okay, 429 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 1: So I'm not I'm not picking on anybody intentionally, but 430 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: from my seat here, I've seen some of the solder 431 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: work that people do, and it looks like they're doing 432 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 1: it with three toes on their left left foot. So 433 00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: you're you're you're competent, You're you're confident that the soder 434 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: repair is competent. It was done nice heat shrink tubing. 435 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 1: Everything was overlaid, interlaid, interconnected, good connections and so on. 436 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 1: I have not, of course, they haven't taped up, and 437 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: I have not taken it apart. Go ahead, taken apart, 438 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: taken apart, Alex, It's it's already listen, is it already broken? Right? 439 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: So it's already broken. You can't break broken, right, It's 440 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: look a new ron a new ron ism that I've 441 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: actually said before, but not as often. But you can't 442 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: break broken, it's already broke. You know the other day, 443 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 1: Danny and I were working on I forget what we 444 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: were working on, and we were oh, we were working 445 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: on a sixteen Chevy truck. We had just put a 446 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: seatbelt tensioners in it and we had to configure the 447 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 1: airbag module. And be honest with you, I haven't done 448 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: this one yet. And we brought it up on the 449 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: screen of the scan tool and we weren't quite sure. 450 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: G Did we just push the buttons? Should we sit 451 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 1: down and read? It was late, the customer wanted the vehicle. 452 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 1: It was already broke, and it was an insurance job. 453 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: The insurance company gave us no information. It was a 454 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: job we inherited from two other shops. We had done 455 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 1: all our due diligence. I said, you know what, it's 456 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: quarter to five. Pushed the button. We pushed the button, 457 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:15,959 Speaker 1: fixed the truck. He looked at me. I said, you 458 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: can't break broken, kid, it's already broke. I said, now 459 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 1: we fixed it, shipped the car um so you can't 460 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 1: break broke. You can't break broken, Alex, it's already fixed, 461 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: or it's already broke. So look at the solder. Also 462 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: there are critical grounds, particularly ground one oh three, which 463 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: I always talked about this. They are at the on 464 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 1: that particular truck. Ground one oh three is on the 465 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: right side cylinder head, at the back of the head. 466 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 1: And it's if if you put your head into the 467 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: most painful position, like where it's starting to hurt because 468 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: you're stuffed all the way back against the firewall, looking 469 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: straight down at these two wires coming down to ground 470 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: islets at the back of the head. Make sure they're good, clean, tight. 471 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: Make sure there's six fires in that strand make sure 472 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 1: there's sixteen good, good strands. I've seen them where they 473 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: break down to the last two strands. And every once 474 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 1: in a while it sets off the apple cart and 475 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: sets off a string of codes, particularly what you're talking about. 476 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: It will set off E C M failures, it will 477 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: set off throttle body failures, limp mode, everything under the sun. 478 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 1: Because it's a poor ground. Poor grounds caused all kinds 479 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 1: of havoc. So let's check the grounds at the right 480 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: cylinder head, just for giggles, because it's a farm truck. 481 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: Let's look at the grounds on the left cylinder head. 482 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: There's one on the left, two on the right and 483 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: there's two. There's there's actually three main chassis grounds underneath 484 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 1: the driver's seat on the left frame rail where the 485 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,239 Speaker 1: brace comes down off the body. Makes Let's just make 486 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 1: sure those are all good, clean and tight. Let's stop 487 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: focusing on what's bad. Let's look for the obvious of 488 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: what's good and make sure maybe we'll fix this thing 489 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 1: along the way the other the other. The other problem 490 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: I want to mention is depending upon where he got 491 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: that throttle body from. I've had limited success with after 492 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: market throw auto bodies, and I only use GM as 493 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: a as a as a point of repair because they'll 494 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 1: do what you're describing thefter market stuff. And here, okay, 495 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: then I'm okay with that. The first one he put 496 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: on was an aftermarket and then when we were having trouble, 497 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 1: he said, here, I've got the A C Delco one. 498 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: It's more money, but there's it's more money, but there's 499 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: a reason it's more money, better componentry. So um, those 500 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: problems with those particular faults and the rest of the 501 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 1: throttle body codes are caused by throttle body and or connector. 502 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: That's why I say go back and look at that 503 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: solder repair. You know, for somebody that may have missed 504 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: repairing that properly. We could have a poor solder job, 505 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: and just redoing the connection and the solder may solve 506 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: the problem. To do that, look at the grounds and 507 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: then call me back. I'll give you more, alright, kiddo. Okay. 508 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: And on the mill light, I mean, do you think 509 00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: it's in the PCM or do you think it still 510 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: could be a ground issue because when the reduced engine 511 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 1: power light comes on, the check engine light will glow 512 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: just very dimly. I don't even see it during the day, 513 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 1: but at nighttime. You ever have dim headlights on a tractor? 514 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 1: And can you find a bad ground? Yeah? Yeah, right, 515 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 1: let's let's let's stay the course, all right. Remember you 516 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: can't you can't break, you can't break broke and keep going, 517 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: all right? Sounds good? All right, brother, thank you, You're 518 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 1: very welcome. All right, good luck that lithium. Yeah I will. 519 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: Good luck to you, Alex. We'll talk again. Eight zero 520 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: zero farmers are the best. They really are. God, I'm 521 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: telling you, it's just they're just hilarious. Sometimes they face 522 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: such odds. God bless him. Zero run in any of 523 00:28:50,360 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: the car. Doctor coming back right after this welcome back, 524 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: run in the car docker. By the way, before we 525 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: go over to Bob in New Jersey, did you notice 526 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: that the Chevy Bolt catching fire story just kind of 527 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: died in the news too. That's sort of went up 528 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: in smoke. No pun intended, um Afghanistan, lithium may on. 529 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: No more Chevy Bolt stories. Yeah, the media tells us 530 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: the truth every time. Bob and Phillisberg Welcome aboard, sir. Yeah, 531 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: it's the nineteen sixty five Volkswagen Beetle come back. A 532 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: nice story, but the list the last good car ever made, 533 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: right exactly, and then sits out yere in front of 534 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: the house, and I have people knocking on the door 535 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: to see if it's for sale. Well yeah, it's the 536 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,719 Speaker 1: only all the Beetles sitting on the streets. So you know, 537 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: you come down the street, you'll see it right away, 538 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: you know. What's anyway? You know, Bob, don't you like 539 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: watching old TV shows? You know, I actually started, I've 540 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: actually just started to watch n Y p D. Blue, 541 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: which is from which I think about is almost thirty 542 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: years ago. Right. The cars, the cars on the street, 543 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: Holy cow, there's Volkswagen Beetles everywhere. It's it's how how 544 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: how things have changed in thirty short years. All the 545 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: cars you don't see anymore, and and the car brands. 546 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: And uh, I was watching an old episode of Kojack 547 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: a couple of months back, made in the seventies, and 548 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: you know the Chevy, Monty Carlos and the Pontiac Grand 549 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: Prix and the personal luxury. Well whatever, I'm I'm I'm 550 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: off subject. So what's going on with v W bub Well? Anyway, 551 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: we I did some detective work on the fuel holds 552 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: that all was talking to you about, and I found 553 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: out where it came from. Friend of mine has a 554 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: preparent drop and on this wall there's a five ft 555 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: hose of this stuff and then plus all the band 556 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: ballots and the sun beats on it. And found out 557 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: this hose is over thirty years old. And I got 558 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: thrown out. And that's where the hosel is getting came from. Right, 559 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: So I guess if you gotta you know fuel hose 560 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: brand knows sitting in the sun for thirty years, I 561 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: guess a little. Sure, Yeah, sure, absolutely listen, store Storing 562 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: car parts before they become part of the car is 563 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: just as important as storing the car. Everything's got to 564 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: be in a controlled environment. It's you know, um, I 565 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 1: keep a lot of the parts that we saved for 566 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: the hot rod, for the Monte Carlo and even for 567 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: the suburban. Everything's everything is stored in the back room 568 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: of the shop, up high, out of the way. Uh, 569 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: you know, good ventilation, wrapped up, sealed badge. You know. 570 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: It's it's just it's just the way you want to 571 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: keep it. Yeah, it really is environment all right. My 572 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: second questions, I'm looking to buy another car nine two 573 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: thousand and well at Eque, okay, with the three point 574 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: to be six in it? Not to lead or have 575 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,479 Speaker 1: you had or heard of any issues they've been okay, 576 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: you know, listen, it's an Audi. It's gonna be you know, 577 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: there's gonna be things that go wrong with the electronics. Um, 578 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: like a Volkswagon, but you're used to that. There's specialty 579 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: tools to work on it. You know, it's gonna develop, 580 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: oil leaks back. You know it's gonna be. It's gonna 581 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: be valve covers and rocker seals and things like that. 582 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: But it's nothing you can't fix. It's it's nothing you're 583 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: not prepared for because you want Volkswagons for thirty years 584 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: or forty years? Alright, how long you've had yoxwagons for? Okay? Right? 585 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: So have you had any issues with the carbon with 586 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:43,479 Speaker 1: direct injected engines? Yes, but that's on everything, anything, anything 587 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna buy. And I'll tell you what sit tight 588 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: when I come back. We'll talk about that and i'll 589 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: tell you the procedure for taking care of that, especially 590 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: on g d I engines. It's a good topic. Zero 591 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: running any of the car Doctor will be back right 592 00:32:55,560 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: after this, welcome back, or on any of the car 593 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: dr Bob, you're still there, sir. We've got just a minute, 594 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: so let me let me say my spiel if you will. Um. 595 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: First of all, carbon deposits are a problem in everything 596 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: everybody drives, regardless of what it is, all right, it's 597 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: just it's just the nature of the beasts. Gasoline direct 598 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: injection g d I is unique in that it no 599 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: longer positions the injector behind the intake valve, which is 600 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: important because it helps wash the valve and keep it clean. 601 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: And the issue becomes not so much of gasoline deposits. 602 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: But now we've got oil deposits through positive crank case 603 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: ventilation PCV. Coding the intake valve and nothing there to 604 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: keep it clean. The injector is under the valve, spraying 605 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: directly at the top of the piston. That being said, 606 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: I think running a g d I engine requires the 607 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: use of a fuel system cleaner. And fuel system cleaners 608 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: are always changing. They're always the technology is always evolving. 609 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,959 Speaker 1: I think some of the best stuff right now is 610 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: coming out of liquimally, Liquimali dot com, uh liquid dash, 611 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: Molly dot com. Actually, and there Jectron fuel system cleaner. 612 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: Good stuff. Okay, use it as the directions on the can. 613 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 1: Now there are more elaborate ways and more elaborate things 614 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: you can do. Berryman makes an excellent fuel system cleaning kit. 615 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: Their their four stage kit which includes their Berryman Hest 616 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:36,919 Speaker 1: fuel System product, And that's another way to go as 617 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: far as a regular diet. At the bottom line is 618 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 1: carbon is a problem and it's got to be dealt with, 619 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: regardless of whether it's an audie or anything else. All 620 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: of this can be found that O'Riley ooto parts get 621 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: out to a rileyoto dot com. I appreciate the call, Bob. 622 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: Until the next time I'm runing ating in the car 623 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: docoryminding each and every one of you. The mechanics aren't expensive, 624 00:34:54,120 --> 00:35:03,280 Speaker 1: they're priceless. See you. She's stars, super