1 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,399 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 2: Hi, my name is Robert Lamb. And this is the 3 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 2: Monster Fact, a short form series from Stuff to Blow 4 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 2: Your Mind, focusing in no mythical creatures, ideas and monsters 5 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 2: in time. Batman's rogues gallery boasts an unbelievable variety of supervillains, 6 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 2: from chaotic clown criminals and calendar officionados to amorphous clay 7 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: monsters and cryogenically frozen mad scientists. But in terms of 8 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: more monstrous foes, a few names rise to the top. There's, 9 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 2: of course the Man Bat hybrid man Bat. But I 10 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 2: thought we might discuss another famous foe of the caped crusader, 11 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 2: Waylon Jones aka Killer Croc. Now, if you grew up 12 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: on the nineties bat Man animated series like I did, 13 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 2: you'll probably remember this guy as a pale, gray, scaly 14 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 2: humanoid with big shoulders, sharp teeth, and a skeletal face. 15 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 2: He's at home in the waters, especially river and sewer waters, 16 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:18,839 Speaker 2: and he possesses great strength for grappling Batman. This character 17 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 2: was created back in nineteen eighty three for the Batman 18 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 2: comic by Jerry Conway, Don Newton and gene colan. His 19 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 2: original appearance was greener and scalier, and over the years, 20 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 2: designs for Killer Crock have only grown more monstrous. In 21 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 2: the nineteen eighty three comic debut, he's roughly the size 22 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 2: of a large man, but in the two thousand and 23 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 2: nine video game Arkham Asylum, he's an absolute ogre that 24 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 2: basically fills an entire prison cell by himself. The original 25 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 2: explanation given for Killer Croc's appearance is a skin condition, 26 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 2: probably meant to be something from the ichthiosis family of 27 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 2: genetic skin conditions that can produce a scale like quality 28 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: of the skin. Now, I'm not sure how tasteful this 29 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 2: ultimately is, and besides, it's hardly an excuse for other 30 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 2: aspects of Killer Croc's appearance and character. Plus, to be clear, 31 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 2: killer Croc has dinosaur feet and other dinosaur like qualities 32 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 2: in his later appearances. As such, these later incarnations of 33 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 2: Killer Croc are often explained as a severe form of atavism, 34 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 2: a real life recurrence of a genetic trait typical of 35 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 2: an ancestral form. The topic is explored in the excellent 36 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 2: book DC Anatomy of a Metahuman by SD Perry and 37 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 2: Matthew K. Manning with illustrations by Mean Dole. As the 38 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 2: authors point out, a vestigial tail or an extra nipple 39 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 2: in human beings is not too uncommon an example of this, 40 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 2: but if the affected gene is old enough, a pre 41 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 2: mammalian trait may be expressed in a human being. Some 42 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 2: of our genetic pre mammalian traits can be seen in 43 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 2: our embryotic development. We see temporary examples of this in 44 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 2: the dental playcodes of developing human fetuses, which, according to 45 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 2: Petrokova at All in the two thousand and six paper 46 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 2: for the Journal of Experimental Zoology, resemble early tooth primordia 47 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 2: in reptiles. The human fetus also temporarily develops a tail. 48 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 2: In a twenty nineteen Howard University study identified ancient reptilian 49 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:25,239 Speaker 2: limb muscles in human embryos during the early weeks of gestation. 50 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 2: More startling, however, is a case reported by Walia at 51 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 2: All in a twenty ten edition of the Texas Hart 52 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 2: Institute Journal. When a fifty nine year old man sought 53 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 2: medical attention concerning chest pains, doctors discovered some surprising myocardial architecture. 54 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: Quote Remarkably, the morphology resembled that of the reptilian heart, 55 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 2: that is, it featured direct communications to the ventricle cavity 56 00:03:52,840 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 2: and had the sinusodal characteristics of non compacted myocardium. The 57 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: authors note that this was the second known case of 58 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 2: such a heart in human beings. While the medical curiosity 59 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 2: certainly there was certainly nothing monstrous about this, the fictional 60 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 2: case of Killer Croc would seem to involve a fantastic 61 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 2: exaggeration of reptilian ativism in a human being, and multiple 62 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 2: cases of it at bat, impacting various bodily systems and 63 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 2: features a kind of ridiculous atavism jackpot if you will now. Obviously, 64 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 2: crocodilian morphology factors into various mythological creatures for various cultures 65 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 2: and time periods around the world where crocodiles live or 66 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 2: where stories of crocodiles would drift to. Traditions in Egypt, Zambia, 67 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 2: and Indonesia involve humans that transform into crocodiles to harm others, 68 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 2: akin to the werewolfs of western lore. So it's likely 69 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 2: here that we find the closest thing to Killer Croc 70 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 2: outside of comic books, rather than in our own human 71 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 2: medical History. Tune in for additional episodes of The Monster 72 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 2: Fact each week. As always, you can email us at 73 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 2: contact at stuff to Blow your Mind dot com. 74 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: Stuff to Blow Your Mind is production of iHeartRadio. 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