1 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: It's that time time time, time, luck and load. The 2 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: Michael Arry Show is on the air. There was a 3 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: story last week that at the. 4 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 2: Houston VA Veterans Administration Veterans Affairs they had installed a 5 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:56,279 Speaker 2: tampon machine in the men's restroom, which raises so many questions. 6 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:04,559 Speaker 2: Let's start at the most funundamental. Why do we need 7 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 2: to provide tampons for anyone if they start bleeding? Why 8 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 2: shouldn't they provide that themselves? 9 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: Just a thought. 10 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: Now, I suppose you could say, well, it's expected that 11 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 2: you provide toilet paper. Yeah, yeah, it's true. I don't 12 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 2: know why we provide tampons in women's restrooms. Pretty good 13 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: idea when you're going to start menstruating. But it's not 14 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 2: a battle I want to have. If we decide we 15 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 2: want to spend taxpayer dollars on free tampons in the 16 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 2: bathroom people who bleed, I'm okay with that, that's fine, whatever, 17 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 2: But then why would we do it in the men's restroom. 18 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: It's not harmless, it costs money. How does that work? 19 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 2: Who? 20 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: So there's no tampon. 21 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: Machine in the men's restroom at the VA. Did somebody complain? Hey, y'all, 22 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 2: I if you're in the men's restroom, you're not menstruating, 23 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 2: So why nobody complained. 24 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 1: Some bureaucrat in the VA went to some. 25 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 2: Conference where they said, this is how you show them. 26 00:02:58,960 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 3: This is. 27 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 2: Go back and do this. You know what this is 28 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 2: designed to do, destroy your morale. Insane actions carried out 29 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 2: and defended as if they're real, so that when you 30 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 2: react the way you should react as a functioning adult, 31 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 2: you are then insulted and harm is brought upon you. You'll 32 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 2: lose your job, You'll you'll be out at all the 33 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 2: things they do. That's how this game works until eventually 34 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:50,839 Speaker 2: you normalize these things. Normalization is a very powerful concept. 35 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,839 Speaker 2: It's what the left does daily because as they can 36 00:03:54,920 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 2: normalize that which is perverse, evil, sick, demented. 37 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 4: All of it. 38 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: As they do that, they are confusing you. 39 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 2: They are weakening you, They are softening you. You lose 40 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 2: the resolve to fight back because you see these skirmishes 41 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 2: here and there that we are losing, and so you 42 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 2: lose heart. They are institutionalizing you. In your own mind, 43 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: you no longer feel that you can do anything about this. 44 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 2: You no longer feel that you should. 45 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 4: Do anything about this. 46 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: Because it won't make a difference, you believe. 47 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 2: And there are a number of people who will say 48 00:04:55,680 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 2: that's not the hill to die on. Those people have 49 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 2: never found a hill to die on. As you keep 50 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:11,799 Speaker 2: seeding ground, as you keep allowing them victory after victory. 51 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: They don't stop. 52 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 4: They don't stop. 53 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: Remember, we started. 54 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 2: With the whole transissue was just acceptance. 55 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 4: Well do no. 56 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 2: First it was tolerance. Don't beat people to death when 57 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 2: a grown man dresses a woman. Well, nobody was doing that. 58 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: There were this many deaths last year. Go look at 59 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 2: the facts behind those deaths. What happened. It's almost always 60 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 2: their boyfriend. It's not a couple of random frat guys 61 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 2: who beat them to death. There was the guy Bruceard 62 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 2: here in Houston, became a nationally famous case. 63 00:05:58,680 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: It was awful. 64 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 2: Those guys are driving around drinking early twenties and they 65 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 2: see some gay guy coming out of a gay bar 66 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 2: and they chase him down and beat him to death. 67 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: They should be hanged. What are you doing? Why did 68 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 1: you do that? And my feeling on that. 69 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 2: Is anybody who feels that level of rage and anger 70 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 2: at a person for being gay is struggling with homosexual tendencies. 71 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 2: And they're upset about it. There's no other reason you 72 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 2: hate a gay person for being a gay person. The 73 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 2: guy didn't do anything to them. He didn't proposition them, 74 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 2: he didn't rape them, he didn't touch. 75 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: None of it. 76 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 2: There are other witnesses who saw the whole thing go down, 77 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 2: all right, So that is your random case. That is 78 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 2: not what's happening. What's happening is you've got these trans 79 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 2: folks in a relationship and they're in a relationship with 80 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 2: some person that's crazy who. 81 00:06:58,360 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: Beats them to death. 82 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 4: What happens. 83 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 2: There's a lot of drama involved in all this, and 84 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 2: that's what ends up happening. But we go back to 85 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 2: why we're putting tampon machines in the bathroom. It's not 86 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 2: about nobody needs the tampon machine. That's not what it is. 87 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 2: It's about taking up issues to demoralize you. And that's 88 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 2: why Tim Waltz is known in Minnesota as Tampon Tim 89 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 2: because he put tampon machines in all the boys restrooms 90 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 2: in the schools across the country. 91 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 5: True story. Grade school boys and grade schoolgirls all need 92 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 5: tampons all. 93 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 4: Over the world. 94 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 5: Once some month, their fronts holes leave there's just. 95 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 4: One thing do they need. 96 00:07:54,800 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 5: When you think about tampons, they tampons him. When you 97 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 5: think about tampons, think tampon Tim, tam bon, tampon, tampon Tim, 98 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 5: little white torpedos from a contention, tampon, tampon, tampon Tim, 99 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 5: having a tampond party with all your friends. When you 100 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 5: think about tampons, thing tampon Tim. When you think about 101 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 5: tam bons, thing tampon Tim. When you think about tampaws, 102 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 5: think tampon, tampon, tamp tampon Tim, tampon Tim. 103 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 2: So when you think about Tim Walls, what are you 104 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 2: supposed to think about? 105 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 6: Romont Ray? 106 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 2: I'm Sheila Angelae the Michael Barry Show. 107 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 7: You really adopted the. 108 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 8: Doc I was. 109 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 4: That's not to ride home about. 110 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: Credit to Chance McLean who wrote our tampon Tim Soong. 111 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: Now that's a song. 112 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 4: There was a line in there. 113 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 2: I don't know how many of you caught it, talking 114 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:32,959 Speaker 2: about tampon Tim putting the tampon's in the men's restroom, 115 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 2: in the. 116 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 4: Little boy's restroom. 117 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: The line the line he wrote was little white torpedoes 118 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: from a cotton gin. 119 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 2: Now that uh, that's quality right there. Let's go to Kate, Kate, 120 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 2: you're on the Michael Berry Show. You're up, sweetheart. 121 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 8: Go ahead, Hey, I'm going further with that Tim tampon. 122 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 8: We got a good old boy, Buddy Brown in Alabama. 123 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 8: He's got a song out there that says, little Johnny 124 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 8: still can't read, Little Johnny still can't write. 125 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 6: Well, I'm not going to. 126 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 8: Play it all for you, but look it up. It's 127 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 8: called tampons. But they put tampons. 128 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 6: In the boy's room. What the boy's room. 129 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 8: Huh, the boy's room gonna put tampons in the boy's room. 130 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, So again it is important to understand. You have 131 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 2: to focus on what they're doing. Once you understand that, 132 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 2: it brings clarity to a lot of this. It started 133 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 2: with tolerance. You need to tolerate people being different than 134 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 2: you are. Most people have a mildly libertarian street. All right, yeah, 135 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 2: do what you want to do. You want dress as 136 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 2: a girl, that's your business. 137 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 4: Okay. 138 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: Then you move to the next one, acceptance. 139 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 2: That is where after there is sufficient tolerance and you've 140 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 2: worn down people's initial ekey factor, and that's really what 141 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 2: it is. Then you say, all right, now we want 142 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 2: you to take an affirmative step to accept it, and 143 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 2: that rolls into promoting it. So now now that we've 144 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 2: won the tolerance battle, now we want to go to 145 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 2: acceptance and then we go into promotion, and that means 146 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 2: we want you to hire, we want you to make 147 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 2: statements of support, and we're going to get the people 148 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 2: who are out there in the public that you're supposed 149 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 2: to respect because they sing a song I guess, or 150 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 2: they read their lines in a movie, We're going to 151 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 2: get them doing it. We're going to talk about it 152 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 2: in the NFL. We're going to talk about in the 153 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 2: middle of your football game, when you're having a good 154 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 2: time with your buddies watching the game, we're going to 155 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 2: stop and immediately get into that. The interesting thing is 156 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 2: Black Lives Matter was supposed to be that, but they 157 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 2: lost interest in that. That's just been thrown away. They 158 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 2: moved on to the bigger issue. And the idea is, 159 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 2: and you know, ten years ago, I would have thought 160 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 2: I was crazy for saying what I'm saying now, but 161 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 2: now I'm sure of it. The motive and money behind 162 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 2: these efforts is countries and individuals who seek to watch 163 00:12:56,559 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 2: us implude, who seek to destabilize China funds a lot 164 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 2: of it. Sorrows funds a lot of it. If you 165 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:12,719 Speaker 2: look at how much money has been spent getting Americans 166 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 2: to buy into the electric vehicle craze and where that 167 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 2: came from, which was China. You look at how many 168 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 2: democrats were enriched by those dollars to make that a 169 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 2: part of our laws. I saw that Volvo yesterday. Volvo 170 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 2: announced that they will not hit their twenty thirty number 171 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 2: of all electric by twenty thirty. And not only that, 172 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 2: they have cut production on electric vehicles. Ford has cut 173 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 2: production on one line of their electric vehicles. I forget 174 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 2: which one, but on the truck that they deliver. It 175 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 2: is currently costing them over one hundred thousand dollars in 176 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 2: a loss per vehicle they per electric vehicle they deliver. 177 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: Now, that's not all in that one vehicle. 178 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 2: A lot of that is building the plants and building 179 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 2: the supply chain for that. 180 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: But they are a long. 181 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 2: Way from making a profit on an electric vehicle. And 182 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 2: some of these major manufacturers now are pulling the plug 183 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 2: pun intended on their electric vehicle division and going back 184 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 2: to where they were successful, which is internal combustion engines 185 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 2: that had a brand loyalty and a proven concept, and 186 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 2: they're getting away from the electric vehicle I read yesterday. 187 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 2: If I get this right, I believe this to be right. 188 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 2: That the Tesla, the cyber truck, has made more profit 189 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 2: than every major manufacturer, the major automakers, not Rivian, not 190 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 2: Lose not Was it Lucid, what's the one anyway? 191 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: Huh? 192 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 2: It is Lucid right that they have made more profit 193 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 2: off that vehicle than GM Ford Dodge all of their 194 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 2: electric divisions combined, which I mean, I guess it depends 195 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 2: on how you slice that and how you get to 196 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 2: the concept of profit. But I find that most interesting. 197 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 2: My email from David Maulsby at Camp Hope today is 198 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 2: a picture at Camp Hope yesterday with the accompanying line. 199 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: Mister Keith Nichols. Mister Keith Nichols from. 200 00:15:55,920 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 2: Conico Phillips visited Camp Hope a few weeks ago to 201 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 2: learn about our life saving program for combat veterans. He 202 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 2: came back yesterday with a generous check in support of 203 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 2: Camp Hope and we are working on partnership opportunities going forward. 204 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 2: This includes Conico Phillips employees volunteering for projects on campus, 205 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 2: as well as events around the Greater Houston area. And 206 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 2: then there is the picture of one of our veterans 207 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 2: standing beside Keith Nichols with Pastor David Maulsby and one 208 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 2: of our staffers holding a check from Conical Phillips to 209 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 2: the PTSD Foundation of America for twenty five thousand dollars 210 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 2: dated September seventeenth in support of Camp Hope. 211 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: Now, how cool is that? 212 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 2: A number of you have emailed in about the Tucker 213 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 2: Carlson event tonight. If you just look up Tucker Carlson Tour, 214 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 2: Tucker Carlson Live, you'll see it online. I don't know 215 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 2: what else to tell you. I don't have tickets to 216 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 2: get give out, so you'll have to buy tickets. 217 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 4: I can't help there. It's in Rosenberg. 218 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 2: I'm going to call Renee Butler and see if she 219 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 2: can keep another time open later. 220 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 4: Today so people can go there. 221 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 2: And if you want to come to our event on 222 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 2: October twelfth at twenty nine to twenty, you got to 223 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 2: put twenty nine to twenty in the email to make 224 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 2: a film. 225 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 7: The Michael Berry Just to say the word and I'll 226 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 7: throw a lasshole around it and plug down Atlanta. 227 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 4: You're on the Michael Berry Show. Go ahead, sweetheart, h good. 228 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 3: Morning, mister Barry. I just wanted to call and tell 229 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 3: you that we have a son who is Trance and 230 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 3: he let us know about a year and a half 231 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 3: ago that he wanted he felt more at home, he 232 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 3: thought being a girl than he would be a boy. 233 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 3: And there hasn't been a day that has gone by. 234 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 3: And I'm not, you know, blowing this up or anything, 235 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 3: but that I haven't cried about it. 236 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 1: How old is he? 237 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 3: And he's gone, He's twenty six and there's nothing. 238 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,959 Speaker 6: I can do about it. He's going on estrogen and 239 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 6: all of this kind of stuff. 240 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 2: And you know, Atlanta, my Husbandry, Yes, no, no, go ahead, 241 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 2: your I. 242 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 3: Was going to say, my husband and I just we 243 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 3: cannot call him she. 244 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 6: We just call him by his first name. 245 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 2: Does he at least have a name like Kelly or Tracy? 246 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 3: Yes? 247 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: What is his birth first name? 248 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 6: It's the same as the name that he's got. 249 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 2: Now, well, I'm just wondering if it's one of those 250 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 2: names that it's ambidextrous. 251 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 4: Like Kelly or. 252 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:08,360 Speaker 8: More. 253 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, it was Andrew, but Andy, oh. 254 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: Andy, Yeah, you could do that with Andy. Yeah, because 255 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: I've known some Andy, it'd be easier if it was well, 256 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So is he gay? 257 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 6: He claims to be. 258 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 3: Bisexual, a bisexual trans person. 259 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 2: Okay, let's rewind a few years. Were there any of 260 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 2: these issues when he was in school living under your roof? 261 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 6: No? 262 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 3: No, no, not no? 263 00:19:58,400 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 6: Would you have decided? 264 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 3: I guess when he was in the last year of college. 265 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 3: I think he started, you know, figuring out maybe he 266 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 3: wanted to. I don't know. He could love anybody, you know, 267 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 3: and I mean I could love anybody. I love my dog, 268 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 3: you know. 269 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 6: But and I work in. 270 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 3: A job that is very accepting of you know, gay 271 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 3: people and all of that. And you know, if he 272 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 3: would have just turned out gay, that would have been great. 273 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 3: But this has been a little harder to accept. 274 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 4: Do you think. 275 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 2: He really had some belief that he is a girl 276 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 2: or would prefer to live as a girl, or do 277 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 2: you think there was an influence on him that led 278 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 2: him to this. 279 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 3: You know, he would come home and he'd say because 280 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 3: he went to A and M and he was in 281 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 3: the corps and all of this kind of stuff. But 282 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 3: he would say that he has more girlfriends and he 283 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 3: has boyfriend, you know, his buddies were more girls than 284 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 3: there were boys, and you know, he had a male 285 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 3: roommate and all of that, but he just felt like 286 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 3: his buddies, you know, were more on the feminine side 287 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,959 Speaker 3: than the male side. 288 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 6: And I get that. 289 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 3: I mean, I like to be around you know, my 290 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 3: brothers and cousins and all of that kind of stuff. 291 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 6: You know, but I don't know, we're just still helpless. 292 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 4: Did he graduate? 293 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 6: No, I mean and he graduated. 294 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 3: Yes, he did graduate, but you know, as far as 295 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 3: using his degree, No. 296 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 2: Why did you say he didn't graduate at first? Is 297 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 2: there some Is there an issue there? 298 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 6: No, yes, there is an issue. 299 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 3: You know, all of this and I'm not saying the 300 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 3: court they charge you for the money, the air you 301 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 3: breathe over there, you know, and it wasn't cheap and 302 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 3: all that. 303 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 6: But he just. 304 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 3: Didn't decide that he wanted to use his degree. So 305 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 3: you know, we just figured, you know, he got his 306 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 3: ring and all that, but. 307 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 6: He just. 308 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 3: You know, didn't graduate with the other I mean, he 309 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 3: didn't go into a chosen field. 310 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 4: What does he do now? 311 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 3: He works for or a company that is a I 312 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 3: don't want to say too much because but he works 313 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 3: for a company that is a scribe for hospitals? 314 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 6: That is it? 315 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: What for hospitals? 316 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 6: Scribe? Oh? 317 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 3: Okay, you know those people that take down your info. 318 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: Yes, that's an old term though. I like I like 319 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: that you used it. 320 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 2: That's an old English literature term. Yes, Landa, Can you 321 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 2: hold with me for just a moment, Yes, sir, I 322 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 2: want you to think about something that I want to 323 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 2: come back to just a moment. I got to run 324 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 2: down the hall in t T. But when I'm back, 325 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 2: I want you to think. When you said you feel helpless, I. 326 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 4: Want you to help me understand. 327 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:04,959 Speaker 2: What you feel helpless about because I don't know what 328 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 2: you're going through. I can try to empathize or but 329 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 2: I don't, And I want to. 330 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 5: Understand that Michael Berry. 331 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 2: The most corrupt president in our history, the most incompetent 332 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 2: president in our history. Black spotoms before we go back 333 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 2: to Lanti's call Pastor ed Young from maybe about a 334 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 2: year ago. 335 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 7: John Ady, He's a liar, he's a killer. He creates 336 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 7: stumbling blocks. He especially loves to corrupt innocent and childhood. Therefore, 337 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:44,199 Speaker 7: he loves abuse, especially by people children look up to. 338 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 7: These who rape children's souls as well as their bodies. 339 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 7: Instead of saving them, even by doctors who surgically mutilated 340 00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 7: child sex organs, instead of psychologically asking for the healing 341 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 7: of their minds. Doctor Craft writes we should be compassionate 342 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 7: toward people who want to change their gender. We cannot 343 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 7: help them if we do not listen to them and 344 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 7: understand them, and feel that their souls are in the 345 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 7: wrong bodies, that God made a mistake, that they know 346 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 7: who they. 347 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,479 Speaker 1: Really are more than God knows. 348 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 7: They need those struggling in these areas to find peace 349 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 7: and unity in their identity. 350 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 4: He also said this. 351 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:43,360 Speaker 7: Our attitude towards transgender people should be the same as 352 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 7: our attitude toward wounded soldiers. The church is indeed a 353 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 7: field hospital or to battlefield. The church exists for the wounded. 354 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 7: The church has. There's only one qualification, and that is 355 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 7: to be wounded. And ladies and gentlemen in different sexual 356 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 7: areas we all qualify. Is that clear enough? Is that 357 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 7: clear enough? 358 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 2: Lana is our guest. She is the mother of a 359 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 2: twenty six year old young man who has declared that 360 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 2: he feels more a girl than a boy. Lanna, you said, 361 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 2: y'all feel helpless. I'm not in any way judging what 362 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 2: you have to say, I'll judge anything. I'm not afraid 363 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 2: to judge. I'm more curious what this emotion is like. 364 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 2: Explain that to me if you could. 365 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 3: Sure, Uh, we have. I have talked with him about 366 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 3: his feeling about this, and you know, what is he 367 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 3: going to do to himself? What what can we do 368 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:27,479 Speaker 3: to help him? And different aspects of you know, his 369 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 3: sexuality and his body and all of this. He, like 370 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 3: I said, he started taking medication to change his breath 371 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 3: and estrogen. And you know, one of our biggest deals 372 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 3: I guess for me is that I will never see 373 00:27:55,280 --> 00:28:05,360 Speaker 3: a wife's grandchild. The name is going to run out, and. 374 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:11,199 Speaker 6: We just are feeling sad about that. 375 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 2: How much of your sense of helplessness is that you 376 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 2: feel that he's doing things. 377 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: That obviously he's he's struggling. 378 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 2: With his own identity and he's struggling with some issues 379 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 2: that most people will never struggle with. 380 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 4: You probably haven't, I haven't. 381 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 2: We may not personally know anyone who ever has, but 382 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 2: that the decisions he's making will make it worse because 383 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 2: we do want some level of happiness for our children, 384 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 2: and you know that what he's doing is counterproductive to. 385 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 3: That well, and that's one thing that I told him 386 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 3: that you know, he's going to, you know, be discriminated against, 387 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 3: you know, because that's what he has chosen. And you know, 388 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 3: I don't want him to be discriminated against. I don't 389 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 3: want that. But it's like walking into a business that 390 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,959 Speaker 3: you want to have a job in that you have 391 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 3: to present a certain book to your cli intel and 392 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 3: have tattoos all over your face. 393 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 2: Yep, that's what I was funny, you know, finished the 394 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 2: sentence that way, because that's what I was thinking. 395 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 4: It's exactly what I was thinking. How much of what 396 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 4: he's doing do you think is. 397 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 2: Some combination of seeking attention, wanting wanting to be more interesting, 398 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 2: because that does appear from a distance with some of 399 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 2: these people that that they're kind of boring, that that 400 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 2: they feel bored in their presentation and in their life 401 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 2: and their lifestyle, and they can't figure out how to 402 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 2: get out of that rut, and this becomes an all 403 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 2: new and exc citing community identity the whole thing. Do 404 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 2: you sense that I don't know your son, obviously, but 405 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 2: I'm just curious because I have seen that. 406 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 3: Well, you know, he he never had a big pack 407 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 3: of kids milling around him. You know, when he was 408 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 3: in school, like say, for instance, you know, a real 409 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 3: popular kid or anything like that, he was just a kid. 410 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 6: You know. 411 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 3: He was kind and generous and empathetic and all of 412 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 3: those wholesome you know, just a nice person. And he 413 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 3: still is. He's still a nice, kind, empathetic, gentle person. 414 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 3: I can't say that that has changed, but you know, 415 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 3: and he goes to church and all of this, but 416 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 3: it's just, you know, his friends are not straight friends 417 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 3: for the most part. His friends are you know, gay 418 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 3: or by or whatever. So I guess he feels like 419 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 3: he's got, you know, a cadre of friends that accept 420 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 3: him for what he is. 421 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, you wonder to what extent he molds himself into 422 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 2: being something that they not only accept but want, they desire. 423 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 2: So he becomes that person, you know, the guy who 424 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 2: maybe doesn't love to hunt, but hunts because his buddies 425 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 2: hunt or fish or Nascar or football or whatever else. 426 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 6: You know. 427 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 2: I think some women probably go and drink more rose 428 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 2: more often than they otherwise would, because. 429 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 4: That's what the ladies are doing. 430 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 2: You know, Atlanta, I had a Sunday school teacher in 431 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 2: two thousand two thousand and two thousand and one, two thousand, 432 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 2: say to our class, if you want to know who 433 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 2: you're going to be in five years, look around at 434 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 2: your friends. 435 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 4: For better or for worse. 436 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: You're going to be that group of people. 437 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 2: And I have, in almost twenty five years, learned that 438 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 2: to be the case. 439 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: Atlanta. 440 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 4: I wish for the best for. 441 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 2: You, sweetheart, hold on to hope, don't give up, and 442 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 2: hang in there. Obviously, this is a very, very tough 443 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 2: situation to have to go through. Our event will be 444 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 2: October twentieth, sorry, October twelfth. 445 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:31,719 Speaker 4: It will be a rally. 446 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 2: Send an email if you're interested in tickets. They'll be 447 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 2: free thanks to Nest Construction. Make sure you put twenty 448 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 2: nine to twenty in the title.