1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: Bold, reverence, and occasionally random. The Sunday Hang with Playing 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 1: Buck podcast, it starts. 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 2: Now Excited for the super Bowl this weekend. One Buck 4 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 2: Sexton is even going to be in Las Vegas. He's 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: doing a speech. He'll be watching the super Bowl from 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 2: an airplane. Best super Bowl snacks by the way. Uh oh, 7 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 2: Buck on the video. That's what I'm bringing in a 8 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 2: super cute kid because you were I had a six 9 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 2: month old and you were disappointed at me rising up 10 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 2: on your on your puppy by having a six month 11 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 2: old on my lap and you have what is that? 12 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 2: Is he about a year and a half? 13 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 3: Oh, it's rough, right, He's a year and a half, 14 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 3: isn't that right? He's about eighteen months. This is my nephew, 15 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:50,599 Speaker 3: Callahan count Oh and he is a He is a 16 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 3: super cute eighteen month old, super cool dude. And he 17 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 3: is sitting at the mic. So he's making his radio debut. 18 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 3: He does love electronics. So if you're watching us on 19 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 3: the Clayanbuck stream at clayanbuck dot com as a VIP, 20 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 3: you will see Callahan. You wanna wave to everybody. Hey, 21 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 3: little buddy, he's hanging with Uncle Buck. That's Clay that's 22 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,559 Speaker 3: Uncle Clay over there. You'll hang out with him again 23 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 3: soon and and yes, so you know, if Clay's gonna 24 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 3: show up with adorable babies, I gotta show up with 25 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 3: a cute toddler. This is this is the arms race 26 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 3: now on our live stream that we've got going on. 27 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, we got puppies, we got babies, now we got toddlers. 28 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 2: There's no telling what's gonna show up next. Hello Callahan, 29 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 2: nice to meet you. Good for you to make your 30 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 2: television debut. Waving to everybody, he's streaming debut at a 31 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 2: minimum here. Uh, this is good. They're they're visiting Miami 32 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 2: at a good time of year. 33 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's a great time to be here for sure. 34 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 3: So every anyway, he's uh, he's he's being a good guy. 35 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: I don't want him to. 36 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 3: It is a nap time over here. And so we're 37 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 3: at the end of the show, so I don't want 38 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 3: to keep him beyond uh, beyond his He seems pretty 39 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 3: schure right now. 40 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. Vegas is taking a lot out 41 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 2: of me. Buck, I'm gonna take a nap today, I 42 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 2: think before before I get into the weekend. And a 43 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: lot of you out there. I have one question. 44 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 3: I have two questions for you actually go to thing 45 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 3: to do in Vegas and go to Super Bowl snack. 46 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 2: Super Bowl snacks, Ali says, nachos. Mark, this is the show. Staff. 47 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 2: By the way, Buffalo chicken dip. Mason goes wings. Engineer. 48 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 2: Rachel says, by the way, her baby brother sworn in 49 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 2: as a new Jersey police officer this morning. That is fantastic. 50 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 2: She says, baby hot dogs, which is not a thing 51 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 2: like there's pigs in a blanket. I've actually never heard 52 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 2: the phrase baby hot dogs to define a super Bowl snack. 53 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 2: What would you go with, Buck, You're gonna be on 54 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 2: an airplane, so you're gonna get like pretzels while the 55 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 2: super Bowl's going on. 56 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 3: Oh, we got it, we got it. There we go. 57 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 2: Callahan was good for about about two minutes, which is 58 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:50,399 Speaker 2: good for a day. Good. 59 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 3: He lasted for a bit on his national radio debut. 60 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 3: It's funny. I'm rehabilitating the name Uncle Buck single Handley. 61 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 3: By the way, I'm just saying that John Candy character 62 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 3: will great movie. It's good. I look, I was a 63 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 3: John Candy fan back in the day. Great Outdoors anyway, 64 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 3: seventy six er best. I think it's tough to beat 65 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 3: really good nacho. I view chili see here's my thing, 66 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 3: And this is controversial, and I don't want you getting 67 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 3: in trouble after your whole salsa queso debacco clay, So 68 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 3: just be you know, be cautious on this one. I 69 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 3: think that it is difficult to beat. Nachos have so 70 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 3: much versatility, and they qualify as both an appetizer and 71 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 3: an entree depending on what goes on them, depending on 72 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 3: how much of teamte yes. For me, I love chili, 73 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 3: but chili is an entree. For like, I will eat 74 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 3: just a big bowl of chili. So I don't view 75 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 3: that as as like a one of the ten things 76 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 3: I would have at a Super Bowl per se, because 77 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 3: to me, that's an entre. It's almost like a burger, 78 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 3: like a burgers I love, probably my favorite food all 79 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 3: in maybe steak. But you don't have like a burger 80 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:00,839 Speaker 3: and six other things as part of the appetizer menagerie. 81 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 2: So to me, the toughest one is what can I 82 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 2: not stop eating at a at a super Bowl party? 83 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 2: And it is a dip, right, if you've got a 84 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 2: really good buffalo caeso dip style I'm talking about like 85 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 2: multiple different things thrown in. I could, and by the way, 86 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 2: it doesn't even have to be fancy. I could eat 87 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 2: chips and dip like French onion dip just in the 88 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 2: like in the in the in the plastic container. I could. 89 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 2: I think I could eat a whole French onion thing. 90 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 3: I just want you to know that, like Trump Clay, 91 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 3: we always leave room on the team, and so you 92 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 3: slipping on the team. Keeso there very slyly, It's okay, 93 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 3: we welcome you back. 94 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 2: It's not just Caso, it's the whole Buffalo chicken dip 95 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 2: combo all rolled in together. And by the way, I 96 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,119 Speaker 2: think it's gonna be an awesome super Bowl. I can't 97 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 2: wait to see you out here in Vegas. My go 98 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 2: to in Vegas is I just think the food's incredible. 99 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 2: I like to gamble, I like to play Blackjack. Would 100 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: be my go to. But the restaurant's out here amazing. 101 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 2: We're gonna have Mexican tonight. I can't wait. 102 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,799 Speaker 3: I that's my thing too. I'm one of those people 103 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 3: who when other people are excited about, you know, either 104 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 3: the gambling or the nightclubs or the shows. You know, 105 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 3: I've actually never even been to a Vegas show, which 106 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 3: maybe I should go, but I get excited about the 107 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 3: restaurant scene there. A lot of it is actually a 108 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 3: replication of what's in New York, some of the very 109 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 3: famous places in New York. But that's great. I mean 110 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 3: they've made it a real Vegas is a legitimate culinary destination. 111 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 3: Now you can get some great food. 112 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 2: And you know what else, My wife would say her 113 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 2: favorite thing to do in Vegas is actually shop because 114 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 2: the amount of high quality shopping experience is almost unparalleled 115 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 2: anywhere in the United States now. So it's going to 116 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: be a zoo out here. I can't wait to see 117 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 2: how all of this is going to be shaken out. 118 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 2: We'll be back on Monday. I'm gonna go get a 119 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 2: steak on Saturday, and while I'm eating that steak, as 120 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 2: I did last night when I also had a steak, 121 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be thinking about myself, where should Buck Sexton 122 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 2: take me? Because there's no way on earth Joe Biden 123 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 2: is going to be the Dumbris nominee. 124 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 3: For all of you listening, I want you to be 125 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 3: very clear, I'm gonna make Clay cut up. I'm gonna 126 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 3: put on a little bib and he's gonna cut up 127 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 3: my steak for me. Now, the more he pushes on this, 128 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 3: when either Biden or Kamala or the nominee, I'm gonna 129 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 3: have a little bib and I'm gonna be dabbing the 130 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 3: quarters of my mouth as Clay feeds me my wag. 131 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 2: You don't mistake how much. But now Buck's dropping in Kabala. 132 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 2: Used to be Joe Biden's running no matter what. Now 133 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 2: it's like, well, I've always been talking about it's gonna 134 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 2: be Biden or Kavala. Now you're throwing on the Kabala argument. 135 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 3: Go to the tape. Go to the tape. Like in Vegas, 136 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 3: everything here is. 137 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: Recorded Sunday, Hey, with Clay and. 138 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 2: Buck, we thought we'd have a little bit of levity 139 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 2: because the dumbest show in television continues to have the 140 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 2: dumbest takes in television. And today's yesterday's dumbest take that 141 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 2: I thought all of you should hear. Sonny houstin card 142 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 2: carrying member of the far left wing in this country 143 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 2: who has been arguing that America is an awful racist 144 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 2: place and that a white supremacistter overrunning the country had 145 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: an uncomfortable discovery yesterday. She found out, based on a 146 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 2: genealogy test, that oh, by the way, many of her 147 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 2: ancestors were slave traders and slave owners. And this was 148 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: her reaction yesterday. Listen. 149 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 4: I finally decided to do it because I thought it'd 150 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 4: be helpful for my children and my children's children to 151 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 4: know what their real history was, you know. But what 152 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 4: I found out was that my mother's family, while they 153 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 4: are Puerto Rican, they actually originate from Spain. And the 154 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 4: reason that they moved to Puerto Rico is because the 155 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 4: slave trade had been sort of canceled in Spain and 156 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,239 Speaker 4: then Curisol, and then they moved all of their slaves 157 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 4: to Puerto Rico, and so the family business. I had 158 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 4: been told that they were printers and journalists, but they 159 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 4: were in fact in slavers over the Audi's deeply disappointing. 160 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 2: All right, that is amazing. 161 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 3: So it's amazing on a couple of different levels, or 162 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 3: a few different things that come to mind here. One 163 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 3: is that you know, you know that this is far 164 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 3: more disappointing, Like I don't know why Sunny Houston really, 165 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 3: like why do people care what there? How many generations back. 166 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 3: Are we going here, right? I mean you've got to 167 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 3: be going back great great great great great grandfather or grandmother, right, 168 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 3: I mean, you're going back from the generations. If I'm 169 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 3: descended from somebody who was an axe murderer in the 170 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 3: year eighteen fifty, like, do I care? Do I feel 171 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 3: badly about this? I mean, I'm not, by the way, 172 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 3: from what, from what at least my grandparents told me. 173 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 3: But that's not the point. The point is why should 174 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 3: anyone feel I completely. 175 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 2: Reginny, responsibility whatsoever for what people did before you were 176 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 2: born is not on you as an individual. But I 177 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 2: want to play this because I love it. Put but 178 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 2: it's not just that her family was slaveholders. It's that 179 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 2: they actually left Spain with their slaves when Spain ended 180 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 2: slavery and took them to Puerto Rico so that they 181 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 2: could continue to profit off of the slave trade. They 182 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 2: were like, they were like slave trader two point zero, 183 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 2: and they weren't even when their home country was like, 184 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 2: slavery's wrong, we're gonna do it away with it. They 185 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 2: then took all their slaves to a new country so 186 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 2: they could double down on slavery. And by the way, 187 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 2: Sonny Hostin. I bet is making money on both ends 188 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 2: of the equation here, because I bet she got admitted 189 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 2: to college based on the legacy of affirmative action of slavery. 190 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 2: Meanwhile her family got rich off slavery. Like she's actually 191 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 2: benefiting off both ends. But you know what she said, Buck, 192 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 2: she said she still supports reparations. I believe we have 193 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 2: audio of Sunny Hostin even though her family was double 194 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 2: slave traders. They were like the original og slave traders. 195 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 2: They were like Spain, we're doing away with it. No, no, no, 196 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 2: We're taking our slaves with us to Puerto Rico. Listen 197 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 2: to Sonny host and say, reparations still need to happen. 198 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 4: I still believe in reparations. I still believe this country 199 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 4: has a lot to do in terms of racial justice. 200 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 4: But what I will say, Sarah to your question is 201 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 4: that I feel that I'm enriched by knowing that history. 202 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 4: I'm enriched and I'm enrich by knowing that my family 203 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 4: has come so far from being in slavers to my 204 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 4: mother marrying my father in nineteen oh. 205 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 206 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 2: Okay, First of all, if she still believes in reparations, Buck, 207 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 2: that the easy response there is Okay, go pay them 208 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 2: if you desperately believe, if you're out there listening to 209 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 2: us right now, and you're like, I will never escape 210 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 2: the stain of slavery four hundred years ago, somebody in 211 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 2: my family, it turns out, how to slave. I can't 212 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 2: sleep at night. I feel so awful about what my 213 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 2: ancestor did. No one is stopping Sunny Hostin from paying 214 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 2: reparations out of her own pocket. Yeah, but she can 215 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 2: go pay reparations to anybody she wants, right. Also, why 216 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 2: should the government be obligated when she's the enslaver I reject. 217 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, but this is the same thing when you say, 218 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 3: if you want higher taxes, you can just write a 219 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 3: bigger check to the government. Why are you making other 220 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 3: people lose more of their money via the force of 221 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 3: the state? 222 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 2: Right? 223 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 3: People don't want to live their principles. They want to 224 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 3: just espouse them, so they're made to think. People think 225 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 3: that they're good people. But this whole thing of really 226 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 3: what it turns into the entire case ultimately for reparations, 227 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 3: for a furnt of action for all of this in 228 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 3: this country. Okay, a furn of action a little different 229 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 3: because it goes you know, you're talking about stuff that 230 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 3: was going on in the sixties. And but generally speaking, 231 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 3: you are punishing the generation today for what was done 232 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 3: generations ago, and in some cases so many generations ago 233 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 3: that nobody was alive, nobody remembers anybody. And what what 234 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 3: ultimately is the justice principle that is behind all of this, 235 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 3: Like you're holding people responsible for what their ancestors did. 236 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,239 Speaker 3: If you go back far enough, all of our ancestors 237 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 3: were really just concerned with staying alive. Yeah and uh, 238 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 3: and didn't really care very much about what the social 239 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 3: justice implications of their country, their tribe, their religious affiliation, 240 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 3: whatever we're doing. They were just trying to stay fed 241 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 3: and not die of plague or some kind of you know, 242 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 3: barbarian invasion. So this whole thing is ridiculous. I mean, 243 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 3: that's the And the fact that she's so disappointed is 244 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 3: what's soli. Oh, I'm so sad that you know I 245 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 3: come from. But this is it's exactly the conversation over 246 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 3: Yale a lie who Yale was a slave trader, the 247 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 3: guy that Yale University is named after didn't just own slaves. 248 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 3: He was part of the human trafficking of slavery to 249 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 3: sell slaves to thousands of other people or hundreds of 250 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 3: other people over time, and they're never changing the name 251 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 3: of the name of Yale University because the whole point 252 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 3: of going there is it's Yelle. 253 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 2: What's also interesting to me on the reparations argument, you 254 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 2: are hitting on this a little bit. Anybody who understands 255 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 2: basic history understands that if you go act far enough, 256 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 2: every single human I mean this has had people who 257 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 2: were slaves and also had people who enslaved in your 258 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 2: ancestral lineage. I believe every single one of us, if 259 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 2: you go back far enough, slavery has been with us 260 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 2: for most of human history. 261 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 3: I mean, you know why we don't know more about 262 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 3: the slave trade that is pre Columbian in the Americas 263 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 3: because they didn't have writing. Just saying, I mean this 264 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 3: is the truth. You know, if anyone's wondering, there's no 265 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 3: written records, and there was slavery practice. Some of the 266 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 3: what we call the native tribes engaged in slavery. The 267 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 3: ASTech In we're a massive slave empire. Now we know 268 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 3: that there's some record of it because of the interactions 269 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 3: of the conquisitors, most notably hernand qrtez. But this this 270 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 3: idea that it was only like a Western invention, well 271 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 3: it's just a historical just incorrect. And I'm not even 272 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 3: talking about the slave trade in white Christians that went 273 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 3: on for about three hundred years at the hands of 274 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 3: Muslim mostly North African, but the Ottoman slave trade effectively. 275 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 3: But people don't even want to hear this stuff, right, I. 276 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 2: Mean they or the blessed Native Americans who we all 277 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 2: have to now you know, on the left wing, they 278 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 2: give like, this is not our native land, like every 279 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 2: just about Native American tribe enslaved the tribes that they 280 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 2: beat as well. Right. 281 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 3: So, but what I'm saying is there is just not 282 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 3: that much in terms of detailed record of this wasn't 283 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 3: there's a big there's a native even the term we use, 284 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 3: but it's also so Native American is yeah, I know, 285 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 3: you know, like we have to have a better term 286 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 3: than this. I understand people don't, you know, like some 287 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 3: of the other terms, which I understand why there's some 288 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 3: back and forth on that, but there's like a big 289 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 3: mass grave. This just came up recently where effectively a 290 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 3: one Native tribe was engaged in a war of extermination 291 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 3: against the other. It's a I think it was a 292 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 3: Creek tribe or the Crow tribe. They you know, hundreds 293 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 3: of bodies, you know what I'm talking about. 294 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: This just came. 295 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 2: They basically exterminated their rival. 296 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, and just built a giant mass grave 297 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 3: of all the dead bodies, men, women and children. But 298 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 3: the only bad people white European settlers. They're the only 299 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 3: people who have done bad things the last five well, yeah, 300 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 3: only people in human history. 301 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 2: The only bad people are white Europeans. 302 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you. This even extends so far that, 303 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 3: you know what, the Japanese get a bit of a pass. 304 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 3: In World War Two. We're always talking about how evil 305 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 3: the Nazis were, and of course Nazi evil was extreme. 306 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 3: The Japanese were really as evil in a lot of ways. 307 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 3: If you're an American po government Korea, you were off 308 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 3: to be picked up by a Nazi patrol, then a 309 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 3: Japanese Imperial patrol in the Second World War. By the numbers, 310 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 3: I mean, it was close, but you know, in terms 311 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 3: of how likely you were to survive, think about that 312 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 3: for a second. 313 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 2: As a prisoner. It's crazy, You're. 314 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 3: Right, I'm just saying so you know, anyway, one day 315 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 3: we'll just do the like history You're not allowed to 316 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 3: talk about show, which would be a that's. 317 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 2: A great idea. 318 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: Actually Sundays with Clay and Buck. 319 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 2: King Charles had surgery recently for prostate related issues, and 320 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 2: they just released the Buckingham Palace did reports that they 321 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 2: have found cancer in King Charles, not related to the prostate. 322 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 2: Now they haven't said where the cancer is, but he's 323 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 2: going to be, according to the statement, beginning immediate treatment 324 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 2: for that cancer and is postponing all his public duties. Again. 325 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 2: For those of you out there who follow this, King 326 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 2: Charles has only been king for a couple what is 327 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 2: it like a year and a half now, Buck, I 328 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 2: mean it's a relatively period of time, and hopefully this 329 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 2: is not super serious cancer. But he waited seventy five 330 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 2: years to be the king, and now this has come out. 331 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 2: And for those of you like me who watched The Crown, 332 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 2: they're and Buck, Now. 333 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 3: I gotta admit something. Kerrie and I have gotten deep 334 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 3: into the Crown now, yep, and it gets a lot better. 335 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 3: I'm also I'm so I was very pleased to see 336 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 3: that they talked about the Marburg papers you know, so 337 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 3: people can know that the former king and the abdicated 338 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 3: King of Great Britain was a pro Nazi scumbag who 339 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 3: wanted to, you know, take over when the Nazis would 340 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 3: defeat the United Kingdom. And I mean, it's really bad. 341 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 3: That's all real, by the way, the Margaret, that's a 342 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 3: real thing that the show dives into something that the 343 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 3: British Royals. If you look at the British Royals for 344 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 3: the last oh one hundred years or so, there's some 345 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 3: pretty bad stuff going on. There's a lot of some 346 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 3: of it's still today. So I'm torn play because on 347 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 3: the one hand, The Crown is an amazingly well executed world. 348 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 3: I mean, just the best production values, the best writing, 349 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 3: phenomenal guide and it's just it's a show done at 350 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 3: an A plus level. And I do think it's very 351 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 3: good entertainment. But I also think the British Royal family 352 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 3: is preposterous and that it will be effectively a series 353 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 3: of museums with nobody actually in the roles anymore, like 354 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 3: Buckingham Palace will just be a museum within fifty years, 355 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 3: maybe less. 356 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 2: It'll it'll be well. So we wish Charles well I mean, 357 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 2: that's gonna be a big story, and certainly just in 358 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 2: terms of American allies around the globe, it would be, 359 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 2: I mean, kind of crazy if Prince William ascended to 360 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 2: the throne because he's relatively young. What is he like 361 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 2: forty years old? We have no power. 362 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 3: They're just celebrities. I understand. What do you mean? 363 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 2: Like? 364 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 3: They don't, They don't mean anything. This is what I look, 365 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 3: what season of the Crown are you on? I'm at 366 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 3: what had happened? She's marrying the guy who's kind of 367 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 3: you know, lives an alternative lifestyle, all right, So yeah, 368 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 3: Princess Margaret right, she's marrying a guy who. 369 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 2: Princess Margaret all Right is a sister of the Queen. 370 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 2: I think Queen Elizabeth Buck is one of the great 371 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 2: heroes of the twentieth century. I really do. I really 372 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 2: like it. 373 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 3: I could not disagree more. I don't know. 374 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 2: I think I think the royal family during World War 375 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 2: Two was incredibly important. Obviously Churchill the Prime Minister, the 376 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 2: way that they organized things there you heard. 377 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 3: What I said, though, right, the King was colluding with 378 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 3: the Nazi high command when he was in Portugal. This 379 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 3: was real. In order to and they had to say 380 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 3: the King Hamas to pretend like he wasn't the the 381 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 3: scummy trader that he actually was to the British people. 382 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 3: The Queen Elizabeth's dad, or the that knows uncle uncle, 383 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 3: the guy who married Wallace Simpson. I forget it's you know, 384 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 3: they've all got. 385 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 2: The eighth I think was the one who abdicated. Yes, 386 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 2: he was an awful scumbag. But Queen Elizabeth. I really 387 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 2: like Queen Elizabeth, and I think she has she was 388 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 2: an important historical figure who did good work. So we 389 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 2: will see. 390 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 3: Uh, you should do a poll. You should do a 391 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 3: poll right now, mister polster. Is Queen Elizabeth when it 392 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 3: was she a you know, a pleasant anachronism, but a 393 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,959 Speaker 3: glorified celebrity. Find the better, pathier way of saying this, 394 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 3: or an important historical figure that helped unite the British people. 395 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 2: I think it's undoubted that she was the latter. And 396 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 2: this calumny being cast upon Queen Elizabeth's memory, I'll have 397 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 2: you know, is an affront against all that she did 398 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 2: that is so incredible. 399 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 3: We fought a war so these clowns would leave us alone. 400 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 3: And I have no interest in pretending like the monarchy 401 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 3: has anything to offer the world at this point. 402 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 2: But you know what, it's interesting about this. I got 403 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 2: derailed on this. I blame Greg for updating me about 404 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 2: the cancer diagnosis because I had no idea. I wouldn't 405 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 2: have known anything about Prince Charles's cancer diagnosis. But then 406 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 2: I was like, you know what, we should probably mention this. 407 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 3: Do you know what I want? 408 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 5: Actually want? The one is moed to Megan, who talks 409 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 5: luck this, who's Harry? I want him to be king 410 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 5: so then everyone could sit around and he could wear 411 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 5: stupid costumes and they could actect this guy, Harry has 412 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 5: something worthwhile to say about anything as long as Meghan 413 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 5: says it's okay. 414 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 2: Harry as king would be a disaster. I don't even 415 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 2: know what would happen. He's not in line for the 416 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 2: throne anymore, is he now that he stepped down as 417 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 2: the prince? Like, what would happen if it would go 418 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 2: to I guess you'd have like a king regent situation. 419 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 2: I don't even know how it would work. 420 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 5: He'd have to ask Meghan first, what is Megan think? 421 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 2: I think that there would have to be a king region, 422 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 2: and oftentimes by the way, it's a crazy story. For 423 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 2: those of you who have toured the Tower of London. 424 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 2: A lot of those king regent situations back in the day, 425 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 2: the young prince was often oft something unfortunate would happen 426 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 2: to the young prince and the line of the line 427 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 2: of authority. That's one of the stories, you know, they 428 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 2: don't know what happened to one of the young princes 429 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 2: who just disappeared in the Tower of London, and I 430 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 2: think his uncle ended up taking over the throne. They 431 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 2: think that he was murdered. It's one of the sort 432 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 2: of fascinating and also awful stories. I think it was 433 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 2: in the sixteen hundreds. 434 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 3: Of the fifteen hundreds, I don't think you have yet, 435 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 3: I have yet been able to impress upon you the 436 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 3: that top level of nerdiness where you would listen to 437 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 3: my real Dracula podcasts from years ago. Released on Halloween, 438 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 3: but it talked about the life and times of Lad 439 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 3: the Vlad, the second Vlad Cepes the Impaler, who was 440 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 3: raised he was a prince of Wallachia, raised in the 441 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 3: Imperial Ottoman court. So the enemy he's given to them 442 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 3: as a hostage and he learns obviously Turkish language, Turkish military, 443 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 3: Turkish bureaucracy. And there are other hostages who try to 444 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 3: escape back to and they're blinded, so they actually like 445 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 3: put their eyes out with the hot poker. So that 446 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 3: was a big no no. If you were in the 447 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 3: royal court of the Ottomans, you better stay or else. 448 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 3: But then he got to go back and fight against 449 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 3: the Ottomans later, having been a hostage raised in their 450 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 3: court under threat of execution if his dad actually broke 451 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 3: any of the treaties that he had with them. 452 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 2: This is how people used to live, that is and 453 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 2: by the way, to tie it in with something that 454 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 2: people might have seen, the Bromstoker version of Dracula for 455 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 2: people out there begins with do you remember the opening 456 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 2: scenes where it's Glad the impeller and it shows like 457 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 2: the way that that battle and that war actually took place. 458 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 2: I don't know how historically accurate is you would know 459 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 2: better than me. Based on that. 460 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 3: There was actually there was a famous incident where the 461 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 3: Ottoman advance at night. Vlad Chepesh, who was a terrible 462 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 3: psychopath and did enjoy executing people in the most gruesome 463 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 3: ways possible. There is he was a bad guy. He's 464 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 3: not a good guy, but he was formidable and he 465 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 3: led the night attack of Torgo Vista, where they this 466 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 3: was you can imagine, this is not there's no not 467 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 3: even there's no night vision. They don't even have flashlights. 468 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 3: But they tried to make a play to kill the 469 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 3: Ottoman Sultan in his tent at night by advancing under 470 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 3: cover of darkness with his best fighters, and they actually 471 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 3: got pretty They went to the wrong ten if I recall, 472 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 3: but they got pretty close. So he was kind of 473 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 3: like a Specops guy, but a sociopath too.