1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:02,759 Speaker 1: Previously on drilled. 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 2: The issue was not where we're going to have a problem. 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 3: The issue was simply how soon and how fashion. 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 2: And how bad is it going to be? 5 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: Audi Nobody at Exon when I was there, was discussing. 6 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 2: It was just Okay, how fast is it going to 7 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 2: come and get me do something about it? 8 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 3: How bad is it going to be? And when is 9 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 3: it going to get here? 10 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: But not if. When we left off, Exon had sent 11 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: most of its scientists packing and seemed determined to spend 12 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:33,319 Speaker 1: millions not conducting climate science but undermining it. 13 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 4: When I first started doing this, and I would talk 14 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 4: about climate change, it was like another subject like geology, hydrology, meteorology, 15 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 4: and it was well received. And then at some point 16 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 4: it got politicized, and then it got more difficult to 17 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 4: convey the science. 18 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 5: Exxon as a company was putting ads in the newspaper 19 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 5: that were contrary to the research that they were paying 20 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 5: us to be doing. 21 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 2: So this is an experiment in shifting public opinion away 22 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 2: from urgency, because they know by nineteen ninety one we're 23 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 2: on the verge of a call to arms. There is 24 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 2: legislation being proposed, there's hearings in Congress, there's going to 25 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 2: be an international meeting about this, an international body has 26 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 2: been formed to study it. The world is waking up. 27 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: A key element to this new approach was medium manipulation, 28 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: but not just the sort of garden variety pr we'd 29 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: seen before. This was more like psychological warfare. The targeted journalists. 30 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: They may not have created false equivalents, that thing the 31 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: media does where it gives equal coverage to both sides 32 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: of a story, even when those two sides are not 33 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,199 Speaker 1: at all equally valid, but oil companies and the consultants 34 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: they hired certainly weaponized it. Science historian Naomi Oreski's has 35 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: traced this for years when. 36 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 6: Journalists asked me about this problem of balance. So when 37 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 6: I prefer to call false equivalents, honestly, I get a 38 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 6: pit in my stomach because this has been going on 39 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 6: for so long, and it's so distressing and it's so 40 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 6: hard to fix. Many journalists think that being objective means 41 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 6: giving equal time to quote both sides of an issue. 42 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 6: But in the case of scientific work, where scientists have 43 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 6: worked on a problem, examined the evidence, and come to 44 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 6: a conclusion, there really isn't an equal and opposite side. 45 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 6: Sometimes I make an analogy or a metaphor with sports reporting. 46 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 6: If the Yankees beat the Red Sox last night six 47 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 6: to one, journalists would report that, and they would not 48 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 6: feel compelled to find someone to claim that the score 49 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 6: was actually six to four, or that, in fact, the 50 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 6: Red Sox had won six to one. That would be 51 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 6: seen as completely preposterous, as in fact it is. But 52 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 6: for me, as a scientist and a science historian, the 53 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 6: kind of false equivalence that goes on in science journalism 54 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 6: is as preposterous as if we were looking at both 55 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 6: sides of a baseball game. And I think the fact 56 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 6: that journalists don't get that as part of the problem. 57 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 6: We all understand on baseball, we know that baseball is 58 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 6: a game. It's played by certain kinds of rules. At 59 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 6: the end of the game, there's a score. Most journalists 60 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 6: don't understand that. While science is not a game, it 61 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 6: is played by certain kinds of rules. Scientists follow those rules, 62 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 6: and when they come to a conclusion, then unless you 63 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 6: have new evidence, there really isn't another side. 64 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: Really, if a journalist wanted to both sides a climate story, 65 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: they'd be looking for a climate scientist with conservative projections 66 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: on warming and one who's more of an alarmist, not 67 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: one who still claims that climate change either isn't happening 68 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: at all, isn't that bad, or isn't exacerbated by humans. 69 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: Part of the issue is the media's tendency to overcorrect 70 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: in the face of accusations over bias. I myself have 71 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: had editors remove mentions of climate science from a story 72 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: about worsening wildfires because they don't want to quote make 73 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: the story political. That framing was entirely manufactured by the industry. 74 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: Here's researcher Kurt Davies. 75 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 4: Again. 76 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 2: What they did well was they politicized. It is the 77 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 2: wrong word, but it gets close. They made it a 78 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 2: contentious science issue to the point where everybody had that feeling, 79 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 2: and it was very deliberate. 80 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: But oil companies didn't just manipulate the media and exploit 81 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: their tendency toward false equivalency. That was just one part 82 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: of a multi pronged strategy. The industry also had to 83 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 1: create a whole new batch of experts to drown out 84 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: the legitimate science Exxon had previously funded. The so called 85 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: contrarian scientists had a variety of other explanations for what 86 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:40,679 Speaker 1: was causing climate change, the sun, volcanoes, normal shifts in climate. 87 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: WILLI Soon is a longtime industry favorite. He's best known 88 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: for pushing the solar radiation theory, the idea that sunspots 89 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: and natural solar cycles are what's actually responsible for climate change. 90 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: It's a theory that's been debunked over and over again, 91 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: including by the industry's own scientists. The most recent flop 92 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: pointed out in students' work is that if solar cycles 93 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 1: were what controlled climate, we'd be cooling now, not warming. 94 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,799 Speaker 1: He's also fond of saying polar bears actually need less ice, 95 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: and he still gets cited regularly by politicians. 96 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 5: First of all, I like to know how many of 97 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 5: you really believe that this guest called CO two some 98 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 5: people call it satanic gas can be really dangerous for 99 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 5: the climate and for the whole planetary Earth itself. How 100 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 5: many of you. 101 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: Zero? 102 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 5: Y'all can go home now anyway. The first disclaimer is 103 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 5: that I truly speak it on my own behalf, but 104 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 5: I am a scientist. I've been working in this subject. 105 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 5: I would say, they in and you can ask my 106 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 5: wife for some twenty seven plus years, and I really 107 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,799 Speaker 5: are very serious. What I'm concerned about is actually the truth? 108 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 5: As you know, any of you know what what is 109 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 5: ZEO two? 110 00:05:58,279 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 4: Guests? 111 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: Right? 112 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 4: COO two? 113 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 5: Okay, this is case of life. So if they want 114 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 5: to tell you that COEO two is dangerous, you tell 115 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 5: them to stop reading. 116 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 4: Right. 117 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: Although he always claims to work only for himself, a 118 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: popular line amongst industry funded scientists is that they only 119 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: ever accept money for travel. At various points, Soon has 120 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: had to disclose who his funders are Axon Mobile, Southern Company, 121 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: Peabody Coal, the American Petroleum Institute, or the API and 122 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 1: coke industries. It's worth pointing out that oil companies knew 123 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: full well that theories like zoons didn't hold water. In 124 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety five, a primer on climate change was developed 125 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: by the Global Climate Coalition, a trade group that included manufacturing, 126 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: oil and gas companies and utilities. The primer was intended 127 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 1: for public release and underscored the uncertainty of climate science 128 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: and provided talking points for those who wish to combat 129 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 1: with denialis of the time referred to as quote climate alarmism. 130 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: In an early draft of the primer circulated amongst the 131 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: group in nineteen ninety six, scientists from member companies debunked 132 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: the contrion theories of the day, which are still being 133 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: pushed today. Here's our document, Guy Kurt Davies again with. 134 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 2: That set the stage here that in nineteen ninety six, 135 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 2: the Global Climate Coalition, which was the allied forces of 136 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 2: everything from the oil industry to the autos, to mining 137 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 2: to metals, heavy manufacturing, all of them in one group, 138 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 2: allied against the unf Triple C. Basically their aim was 139 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 2: to slow down international policy. So they're monitoring everything, they're 140 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 2: sending people to the meetings, and they're doing a variety 141 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 2: of variety of publications that they're handing out at these meetings. 142 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 2: So IBCC is supposed to do these reports every five years. 143 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 2: The second one comes out in ninety five, and they're 144 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 2: doing this book that will respond to that and give 145 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 2: industry's opinion. So as a whole draft, and they go 146 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 2: through all these different different ways that you can still 147 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 2: say that it's uncertain in the face of this phone 148 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 2: book thick IPCC report. Part of this draft is a 149 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: discussion in the again only in the draft form of 150 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 2: the question as it stated here, quote, are there alternative 151 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 2: explanations for the climate change which has occurred over the 152 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 2: last one hundred and twenty years. And they go on 153 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 2: to say several arguments have been put forward attempting to 154 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 2: challenge the conventional view of greenhouse gas induced climate change. 155 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 2: These are generally referred to as quote contrarian theories. This 156 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: section summarizes these theories and the counter arguments presented against them, 157 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 2: and one by one in this draft, solar variability, the 158 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 2: role of water vapor differences in the temperature record between 159 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 2: the satellite record and the surface record. That's the John 160 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 2: Christie argument, and the various arguments Pat Michael's argument on 161 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 2: whether or not models line up, naming the scientist Dick 162 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 2: Linz and Pat Michaels Jastro as the authors of these 163 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 2: various theories, and then they give the counter argument, the 164 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 2: solar variability argument, which of course carries through to Willie 165 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 2: Soon's work. This some fifteen years later, funded by Exxon, 166 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 2: funded by American Petrollum Institute funded by the Koch Brothers, 167 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 2: started with this guy, Robert Jastro at Mount Wilson Observatory, 168 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 2: and they publish various papers showing that they felt there 169 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 2: was a correlation between sunspot cycles and differences in solar 170 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 2: intensity that matches up with the temperature record better than 171 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 2: anything to do with carbon dioxide. This approval draft says 172 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 2: that argument is sufficient to account for no more than 173 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 2: point one degree see of temperature change, so they say 174 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 2: it may be factor. Solar radiation may be a factor, 175 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 2: but quote if solar variability has accounted fer point one 176 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 2: degree temperature increase over the past the last one and 177 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 2: twenty years, it is an interesting finding, but it does 178 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,719 Speaker 2: not allay concerns about future warming which could result from 179 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 2: greenhouse gas emissions. So this draft, written by a mobile 180 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 2: oil scientist, knocks down the variety of arguments that we 181 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 2: still hear today. 182 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: That chapter was never published. The primer was printed and 183 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: distributed without it, and member companies went on to fund 184 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: scientists who promoted these theories, despite the fact that they 185 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: had already disproven them. Climate scientists have continued to debunk 186 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: them ever since, but it's hard for them to compete 187 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: with the viral videos and full court press of the 188 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: industry backed contrarians. In addition to weaponizing the media's myth 189 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: of its own objectivity and propping up science they knew 190 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: to be flawed, oil company pr teams created a whole 191 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: new tool for influencing the public, particularly influencers and media. 192 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: They invented the op AD, an advertorial published in the 193 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: op ed section that feels and looks like a regular 194 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: op ED mobile, and then Excellent and then Exon Mobil 195 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: placed these in papers throughout the country. These weren't always 196 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: or even often obvious pleas against regulation or outright denials 197 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:24,359 Speaker 1: of climate science. Instead, they focused on making oil companies 198 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: look like good corporate citizens. This was a key part 199 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: of the work Ebruce Harrison had begun when he was 200 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 1: working with American Cyanamide in DuPont to combat any harm 201 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: done to the chemicals industry by Rachel Carson's book Silent Spring. 202 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: A mix of greenwashing and corporate social responsibility, this pr 203 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 1: strategy held that to avoid onerous regulations or damage to reputation, 204 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: companies needed to at least appear like good global citizens. 205 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:53,439 Speaker 1: From nineteen seventy two to the two thousands, Exxon ran 206 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: advertorials regularly in the New York Times editorial pages. Naomireski's 207 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: and her research partner Jeffrey Supran studied these as part 208 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: of a recent study of all of Exxon's public facing 209 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: communications efforts. Around climate science. Here's Supran on the scale 210 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: of this advertorial effort and how it dwarfed the minimal 211 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: amount of climate science the company continued to do in 212 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: the nineteen nineties. 213 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 3: These advertorials, which it became clear, were part of a 214 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 3: very comprehensive exomobile climate change communication plan, whereby they took 215 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 3: out advertorials every Thursday between nineteen seventy two and you know, 216 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 3: the two thousands, and they paid like about thirty one 217 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 3: thousand dollars per advatorial. They got a discounted rate from 218 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 3: the New York Times, and so it was such a 219 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 3: sort of orchestrated, comprehensive effort to reach literally millions of 220 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 3: people in the general public versus one guy conducting you know, 221 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 3: genuinely decent, peer reviewed science on average read by a 222 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 3: few tens of people in the academic world, so that 223 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 3: the discrepancy in scale is sort of on both ends 224 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 3: of that equation. 225 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: A recently discovered and not yet published early eighties internal 226 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: Mobile memo reveals just how valuable this advertorial program was. 227 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: In it, the mobile communications team focuses not on how 228 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: many readers they're reaching, but on the way these pieces 229 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: have helped to influence how these issues get covered in general. 230 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:20,719 Speaker 1: Here's Kurt again with. 231 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 2: That this is an evaluation inside Mobile Oil of their 232 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 2: op ED program, and they talk about the impact on 233 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 2: opinion leaders since Mobile began its various expanded public affairs 234 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 2: programs in nineteen seventy the views of the majority of 235 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 2: the American people on certain basic issues. In helping change 236 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 2: these perceptions, Mobile can claim to have played a significant role. 237 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 2: Our op ED program and our support for the Masterpiece 238 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 2: Theater in particular, have enabled the company to become part 239 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 2: of the quote collective unconscious of the nation as the 240 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 2: change views of opinion leaders have gradually molded general public opinion. 241 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: They go on to congratulate themselves on the fact that 242 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: The New York Times in particular has quote even changed 243 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: to positions similar to Mobiles on at least seven key 244 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: energy issues. 245 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 2: In another section of the document, they talk about having 246 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 2: influenced the New York Times editorial viewpoints, and the document says, quote, 247 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 2: our analysis shows that the Times has altered or significantly 248 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 2: softened its viewpoints on conservation, moving from a total reliance 249 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 2: on conservation to advocating increased production incentives to solve the 250 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 2: supply shortage. On monopoly and divestitures, moving from approving the 251 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 2: breakup of the oil companies to opposing divestiture on something 252 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 2: called decontrol, moving from opposing decontrol to urging phase deregulation 253 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 2: on natural gas, moving from urging price controls to endorsing 254 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 2: a speed up of deregulation and decontrol of new gas prices, 255 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 2: And moving from advocating strict environmental safeguards to suggesting more 256 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 2: relaxed controls on offshore drilling, moving from valuing environmental concerns 257 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 2: at the expensive exploration and development to urging accelerated offshore drilling. 258 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 2: And on gas a hall which is another name for ethanol, 259 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 2: moving from increased subsidies for gas hall production from grain 260 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 2: to arguing against such subsidies. So they tallying how they 261 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 2: have affected the viewpoints of The New York Times on conservation, monopoly, indovestiture, decontrol, 262 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 2: natural gas, coal, offshore drilling, and gas hall, all things 263 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 2: that they had written op eds on. 264 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: A decade or so later. Mobile was still taking out 265 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: arboritorials every week, and in the lead up to Kyoto 266 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: in the nineteen nineties it placed a fairly aggressive ad 267 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: in both the New York Times and The Washington Post. 268 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: The ad read quote, Let's face it, the science of 269 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: climate change is too uncertain to mandate a plan of 270 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: action that could plunge economies into turmoil. Scientists cannot predict 271 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: with certainty if temperatures will increase by how much, and 272 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: wear changes will occur. In fact, scientists predictions of climate 273 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: change were remarkably accurate, including exons whose experts in the 274 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: nineteen seventies accurately predicted CO two concentrations by twenty ten 275 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: and the result in warming. But oil companies weren't about 276 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: to let facts get in the way of a good story. 277 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: Next time I'm on Drilled. 278 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 4: I was on a radio show two hours. They called 279 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 4: and said, can you come in and talk about climate change? Sure? 280 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 4: And it was Katok Radio six thirty am. And I 281 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 4: still remember this so well. And it was two hours 282 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 4: of live TV and they broke the call record and 283 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 4: everybody that called in was antagonistic toward me, nasty. It 284 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 4: was all, let me talk to that tree hug and 285 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 4: do gooder kind of guy. And that's how the whole 286 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 4: interview went. And I got done. I was like, why 287 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 4: are they so angry? 288 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: Drilled is produced and distributed by Critical Frequency. Reporting for 289 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: this series was done by me Amy Westervelt. Our producer 290 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: and composer is David Whited. Our executive producer is Richard Wiles. 291 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: Our story and concept consultant was Raka Murphy. 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