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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast, Never Lost to Dallas. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Greg Rosenthal, joined by a room filled with heroes,

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Chris Wesselyn, and a little Patrick Claibon for

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Speaker 1: you on a Monday, Hey, Greg, Hey, there we go

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Speaker 1: a little different. Dan Hands is not in the house.

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Speaker 1: Colleen Wolf also on vacation. I believe they're both on

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Speaker 1: the East Coast. Dan hopefully, you know, not together, not together. No.

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Speaker 1: I hope Dan can hopefully survive the mean streets of

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Speaker 1: Westchester County for a couple of weeks, and so we'll

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Speaker 1: welcome him back when he does. I do like the

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Speaker 1: minute Dan leaves. Greg digs right in on the childhood

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Speaker 1: home front after taking many shots him stuff. I'm just saying,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a tough town that he grew

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Speaker 1: up on. From what I hear. I just want to

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Speaker 1: make sure he's safe slinging heat from the back of

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Speaker 1: that strawberry truck. What's going on? What happened this this

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Speaker 1: weekend with this group? I did some more house stuff.

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Speaker 1: Had Henry over Saturday, like yesterday with Tiffany Blackman came

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Speaker 1: over and then we went to a comedy club list night.

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Speaker 1: Nice whats is having a better summer than all of us? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'd say essentially you did a thousand percent more than

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Speaker 1: I accomplished over the two days that we were going. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I just sat with my child for two days, nothing

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Speaker 1: wrong with that, watched soccer and he defecated and stuff

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Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, that sounds like it sounds like my

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Speaker 1: when he's fifteen sixteen. Now by tomorrow, we we should

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Speaker 1: warn our listeners. Patrick claiban is doing us a solid

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Speaker 1: doing this podcast during an actual news anchor shift. So

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Speaker 1: if some crazy story happened, not only would we go

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Speaker 1: breaking news like we normally do in the show, Claibron

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Speaker 1: would just have to leave. Yeah, I would have to

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Speaker 1: leave in and we have it. You guys are doing

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Speaker 1: me the solid. I mean I get to come up

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Speaker 1: here and hang out with you guys, whereas I would

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Speaker 1: just be sitting in my chair waiting for nothing to happen.

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Speaker 1: Because it's what percentage of shifts where you think things

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Speaker 1: are going smoothly. And let's put it just in the

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Speaker 1: off season, because the regular season we break everything. Like

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Speaker 1: a blade of grass could grow in Dallas and it's

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Speaker 1: breaking news on our network. So but in the off season,

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Speaker 1: when it's quiet likely this what percentage of any of

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Speaker 1: your shifts are interrupted by real news? I would say, okay,

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Speaker 1: it's in our favor. Greg would take the field here,

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Speaker 1: and that's why we're doing this. I'm taking the field

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Speaker 1: and Uh, I'm also taking West. I gotta admit. In

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Speaker 1: a later part of the show, we mentioned how West

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Speaker 1: has just been having a great off season, and you

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Speaker 1: know that during this time of the off season, it's

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Speaker 1: confusing for NFL fans out there. There's no scores, you

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Speaker 1: don't know who won, who lost. In the middle of June. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's where we come in. We're going to decide on

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Speaker 1: this show the first time ever, the off season champion

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Speaker 1: of the End and I and UH a little spoiler alert,

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Speaker 1: West is one of the the factors in this tournament,

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Speaker 1: my cup overflow with there's someone to try to take

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Speaker 1: me down. There are some stiff challengers though, just you know,

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Speaker 1: hang around for that segment. It's a it's a bracket

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Speaker 1: style tournament. People love the brackets, and we are going

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Speaker 1: to choose who is the off season champion. We also

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Speaker 1: have some some news a little Jamis Winston update for you,

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Speaker 1: some Jabar Gaffney updates everyone's been looking for, especially Claybron. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you're a huge old Florida fans. Just gotta keep track

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Speaker 1: of obscure SEC players from a couple of decades ago.

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Speaker 1: And then we'll have the latest from marks. You know.

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Speaker 1: Burgeoning social media accounts. Yes, well said Greg, let's forge.

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Speaker 1: Really you really do have like the best social media

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Speaker 1: game of the around the NFL Pike. I've stopped using

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Speaker 1: Twitter almost entirely, outside of maybe a few retweets or

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Speaker 1: would argue I do not your competition isn't very fair

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Speaker 1: world class. We all know I'm a volume shooter, but

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Speaker 1: when you come and only drop like two tweets a week,

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Speaker 1: but they they're just murderous quality. I mean, I've been

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Speaker 1: told by people to know that when you when you

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Speaker 1: You gotta keep tweeting to stay in people's worlds. A

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Speaker 1: little tip for you, they don't live your life to

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Speaker 1: the Glass has a lot of work to do today,

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Speaker 1: like you said, the first Uber drive, Banks and Darby

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Speaker 1: and then that's when the alleged incident happened. Jamis Winston

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Speaker 1: I think also from the team, unruly was the words

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Speaker 1: We talked about the tough schedule obviously that they have

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Speaker 1: a deep dive own Sterator Sanatory supplies in Washington, Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 1: the zach Ertz third and seven touchdown to win the

426
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl is strangely forgotten, even by me. I'm a

427
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Speaker 1: Patriots fan. I was like, wait, I forgot that was

428
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 1: third and seven, Like they were to two plays away

429
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Speaker 1: from winning the Super Bowl right there. A man scored,

430
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Speaker 1: you know, a touchdown on that play, and zach Ertz

431
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Speaker 1: basically is totally forgot. You're totally right. But it's like

432
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Speaker 1: the helmet catch. It wasn't the Super Bowl though, the

433
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Speaker 1: third and seven, but it's but there were so many

434
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Speaker 1: plays in that that like when you what you what

435
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Speaker 1: your mind goes to is like Tom Brady tropping that

436
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 1: wide open pass, It goes to other the Philly Special,

437
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Speaker 1: it goes to other stuff that happened, and just how

438
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Speaker 1: well in the biggest game elements like that, Like we

439
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,879
Speaker 1: were running back and forth between our booth and Sky

440
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,400
Speaker 1: Sports and we'd we'd go take the ten minute walk

441
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Speaker 1: down to the Sky Sports booth to chat with them,

442
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Speaker 1: and like ten to twelve to fourteen points had been

443
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Speaker 1: scored while we were gone, you know, major turnovers, so

444
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Speaker 1: it's just it was one of those games. The um,

445
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:05,919
Speaker 1: the way we remember things tends to get skewed just

446
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 1: based on the conversations we have after the fact, and

447
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 1: so like so many things will be forgotten, like I, um,

448
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 1: when Derek Barnett got the strip sack, I picked up

449
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Speaker 1: Malcolm and was running around the apartment singing Rocky Tops

450
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Speaker 1: like that's what I And people might forget the strip sacked.

451
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 1: People might forget that that, Hey, it was another Super

452
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Speaker 1: Bowl where the Patriots had a Hail Mary that could

453
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Speaker 1: have been caught, you know, everything, and all think we

454
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Speaker 1: wouldn't remember the Phillies Fast Special and like history is

455
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Speaker 1: just weird like that. But right, and I'm I'm kind

456
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Speaker 1: of glad that people will forget the Earth's Play because

457
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Speaker 1: one of my favorite Patriots of all time, Devin mccordy,

458
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Speaker 1: thankfully has kind of stayed out of the off the

459
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Speaker 1: radar for that play where he basically just you know, tripped,

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Speaker 1: just kind of nfortunate. It was unfortunate. Am I the

461
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Speaker 1: only one in here without a tattoo? No no tattoos

462
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Speaker 1: on me? Okay? Mark, and I do I do one

463
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Speaker 1: of my back and it's it's a minor one I

464
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Speaker 1: would put it, yeah, but it's minor as well. I

465
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Speaker 1: think we've gone over at some point what what constitutes

466
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Speaker 1: a major tattoo? Just the size I mean, I think

467
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Speaker 1: one of the all and no one ever sees it

468
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Speaker 1: because it's like on my shoulder blade, you know, in

469
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Speaker 1: the back, like a gaudy one where you have like

470
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Speaker 1: a three ft King Kong Bundy etched onto your button

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Speaker 1: or something. And that's it for the news, or is it.

472
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Speaker 1: Patrick Clayban with some breaking news about the supplemental Draft.

473
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Speaker 1: Michael Signora announcing the date for the two thousand eighteen

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Speaker 1: Supplemental Draft. It is July eleven, two eighteen, at one

475
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Speaker 1: o'clock PM. Get your Supplemental Draft only, eleventh of July,

476
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Speaker 1: and thanks Greg. Looking forward to Henry's annual mock supplemental Drift. Well,

477
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Speaker 1: we're gonna be doing since there's so little going on, clearly,

478
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Speaker 1: we're gonna do three shows previewing all the possibilities of

479
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Speaker 1: the a supplemental They go pick by pick, you know,

480
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Speaker 1: go pick by pick is what what are potential options

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Speaker 1: for teams looking for that one or two players that

482
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Speaker 1: might come out of this, if not zero, that's how

483
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Speaker 1: that's how bar in the landscape is today. That was

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Speaker 1: the off the top. That was your break your Yeah,

485
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Speaker 1: that really got on camera. Of our last news hit

486
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Speaker 1: was the schedule for the supplemental Draft. All right, Uh,

487
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Speaker 1: well that that wraps up the news and now we've

488
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Speaker 1: we've got to the part of the show that people

489
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Speaker 1: have been waiting for. You don't know who won in

490
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Speaker 1: the off season yet, you don't know who is on top,

491
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Speaker 1: who's going to be crowned the off season champion, but

492
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Speaker 1: you're going to by the end of this show. We're

493
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Speaker 1: going through it bracket style. A committee of judges, the

494
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Speaker 1: four people in this room. Let let's be honest, we're

495
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Speaker 1: the committee. We decided on eight potential off season champions

496
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Speaker 1: and it is an honor, I think, just to make

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Speaker 1: it into this bracket on some level. There. Yeah, we've

498
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Speaker 1: left hundreds of potential storylines on the cutting room or

499
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Speaker 1: basically due to lack of time to prepare for this,

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Speaker 1: right or yeah, just total lack of profession. So we

501
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 1: we we did a bracket. We figured it out. There's

502
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Speaker 1: no seeds involved because that would sort of almost we'd

503
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Speaker 1: have to figure out who we like. More preparations all

504
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Speaker 1: it's all just random. But if you're at home and

505
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Speaker 1: you have a quarterfinal bracket that you want to fill

506
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Speaker 1: out with us, why wouldn't you. I'm not getting to stop.

507
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Speaker 1: You do it. You're with Hit the pause on. Hit

508
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Speaker 1: the pause button right now, go fill it out on

509
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Speaker 1: a poster board. They're eight eight different entity pull over.

510
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,360
Speaker 1: You know you got some scrap paper and we announced

511
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Speaker 1: the whole bracket at once, and then go through it,

512
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Speaker 1: or just start going through each I say, announced the

513
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Speaker 1: whole bracket so people have an overview. Then they can

514
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Speaker 1: kind of pick the team or imagine yourself to be

515
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Speaker 1: like an audio version of like CBS Sports showing the

516
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Speaker 1: bracket on TV, or if this was some information we

517
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Speaker 1: could have potentially tweeted out before the show, fans choose

518
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Speaker 1: who they want to be aligned with before it all

519
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Speaker 1: gets started. I love the music. It makes me think

520
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Speaker 1: of like, yeah, Columbos tripping on acid. He's just yeah,

521
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 1: who is gonna be the Charles Barkley of this bracket analysis,

522
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Speaker 1: who clearly has no idea about any of the teams

523
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Speaker 1: involved Little n c A tournament selections. I mean, I

524
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Speaker 1: feel like I could slip into that roll game, all right,

525
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Speaker 1: let's start at the top of the bracket. Uh, A

526
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Speaker 1: lot of talk, a lot of heat on this podcast.

527
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Speaker 1: The Chicago Bears open up their first round matchup against

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Speaker 1: the Trade Tsunami. Two chances to be off season champions

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Speaker 1: right there, great looking matchup there in the same bracket.

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Speaker 1: This is a loaded top half of the dry. I

531
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Speaker 1: have to admit the Los Angeles Rams after being involved

532
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Speaker 1: in that Trade Tsunami adding so many different pieces, kind

533
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Speaker 1: of an it team. But can they take out Chris Wesselyn,

534
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Speaker 1: who has made it into the bracket as the off

535
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Speaker 1: season champion over Mark's objection? Mark, why did you not

536
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Speaker 1: when we can do into and we actually dig into

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Speaker 1: that matchup? Believe me, it comes from a place of

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Speaker 1: of of goodness. It's just about the segment itself. It

539
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Speaker 1: was controversial West West getting in there, canny take on

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Speaker 1: entire organization. We're gonna find out. Uh. Unlike the CBS

541
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Speaker 1: Selection Show, We're not gonna like draw this out and

542
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Speaker 1: go on a commercial break or like talk to the

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Speaker 1: Big ten commissioner. Right now, let's give you the next matchup.

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Speaker 1: It's Zach Martin of the Dallas Cowboys. Why is he

545
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: in this? I'm not totally sure, but Cleymland's gonna explain

546
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Speaker 1: it a little later. He's got a tough first round

547
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Speaker 1: matchup the guy no one wanted to draw, Al River

548
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: on Goo bye curtains there. Well, it's gonna be tough,

549
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: you never know. And then finally to two entities near

550
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Speaker 1: and dear to Mark Sessler's heart, the Cleveland Browns have

551
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Speaker 1: made it into the bracket, facing up against the Kirk Cousins. Interesting. Interesting,

552
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Speaker 1: h that's the late eleven pm East Coast scheme. You've

553
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: gotta you've gotta be watching it. That's like you gotta

554
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: stay up on the West coast. It's late. Everyone's just

555
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: kind of wild in the crowd. That's that's that's a

556
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Speaker 1: sneaky best match is calling the game. All right. Uh,

557
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Speaker 1: let's start, I guess with the Chicago Bears taken on

558
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this is the Chicago Bears official introductory music,

559
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: taking on the Trade Tsunami. And clearly the lack of

560
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: preparation is gonna come in, you know, very obvious here,

561
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: because Chris Westling's gonna tell us why the Chicago Bears

562
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Speaker 1: are are a strong candidate to advance past this round. Well,

563
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: you start with the coaching change that you go from

564
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Speaker 1: a much maligned in this studio, particularly John Fox, who

565
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Speaker 1: is at the top of Greg's list of least favorite

566
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Speaker 1: coaches during his tenure following the NFL. You bring in

567
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: that conservative take that conservative voice, and you bring in

568
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: a bright offensive mind who can make this team fun

569
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Speaker 1: to watch work with their hand chosen franchise quarterback Mitchell Trobiski.

570
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Speaker 1: Then you bring in a number one seaver and Allen Robinson,

571
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Speaker 1: a move tight end, and Trey Burton, a one of

572
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: my favorite draft picks. And Anthony Miller, the second round

573
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Speaker 1: wide receiver, a gadget receiver who can burn you deep

574
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Speaker 1: or allow you to use creative concepts in Taylor Gabriel Uh.

575
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Speaker 1: On defense, you get ro Kwan Smith, who looks like

576
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: a defensive Rookie of the Year favorite right off the bat.

577
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Speaker 1: Aaron Lynch, who is underrated off season signing early in

578
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Speaker 1: his career when he was working with Nick Fongio. What's

579
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: supposed to be going a bit too far making a

580
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Speaker 1: big deal out of Aaron Lynch. But yeah, continued, we'll

581
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Speaker 1: talk about that in November. Well, yeah, basically all that

582
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: everything's going well for the Bears. They look like the

583
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Speaker 1: best chance to go two thousand seventeen Rams on the

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Speaker 1: NFL and and so much like the Rams, Like I

585
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Speaker 1: think Ryan Pace, you know, you burned through a coach.

586
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Speaker 1: There have been some ups and downs there. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: getting along with the coaching staff before Fox left. That

588
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: was like, what's the Ryan Pace experience. I'm not totally

589
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Speaker 1: sold because the Bears have been one of the harder

590
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Speaker 1: to watch teams in the league, but like less sneed

591
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Speaker 1: why you get that coach and if it works and

592
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Speaker 1: you suddenly have that quarterback and they've done a nice

593
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Speaker 1: job of adding players that fit the Neggie scheme. If

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Speaker 1: we don't want to go NAGGI will go Neggie. That's

595
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: that's another I think point in favor of the Bears.

596
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: The mysterious Naggie Naggy thing. We liked him, we met him,

597
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: were easily influenced. Were Yeah, our resistance is very low

598
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: after meeting him. We've been one over. So Patrick dn't

599
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: understand that, and he has no issue entertaining that conversation still,

600
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: which is obviously one of the things I think that's

601
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: in the Bears favor is kind of what West mentioned

602
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: in that they've been so such a pox on the

603
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: league for so long a team that's the first to

604
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: say it not a pox. But you guys famously make

605
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: fun of me that I'm like, oh, I'm excited to

606
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: watch every game, every team. And that's for the most

607
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: part true. No one gets excited about the mid season

608
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Speaker 1: pretty much by week four or five. Everyone was tired

609
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: of watching the Bears too often over the last few years.

610
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: And now we've got a team, even if they're winning

611
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: a lot of games, Uh, they're gonna be fun. And

612
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: another thing that works out in Maggie's favor is the

613
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: accumulation of bad that was with the franchise that kind

614
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Speaker 1: of last year. You saw some spots of hope that

615
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: came before him, but still because of so much of

616
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: that previous bad, it still feels like the road is

617
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: farther to go. Here's what we're overlooking. The trade tsunami,

618
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: which you know, we gotta move through these things, but

619
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Speaker 1: like trade tsunami was sort of created by someone in

620
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Speaker 1: this room. Greg kind of came up tsunami and it

621
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Speaker 1: went out. It got all over the internet, and so

622
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Speaker 1: you know, I kind of think that as a little

623
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Speaker 1: Greg's not going to quickly give up on the concept.

624
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: Had a thing washed away this quickly by the Bears,

625
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: there is go ahead, Patrick, I was just gonna say

626
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: credit to Greg for not highlighting the fact that it

627
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: was something that he birthed from his own loins that

628
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: ended up happening. And then I don't know if the

629
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Speaker 1: trade Tsunami happens if not, for do you think do

630
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: you think the Rams heard the term and they just

631
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Speaker 1: started making trades. You can't control the tsunami wants to

632
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: start timeline wise, grag. That's exactly what happened. I am

633
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: read the article and said, we have to reorganize how

634
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: we're thinking about this. I like that one one final point,

635
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: or at least one point in the in the Tsunami's favorite.

636
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: It's like the Bears have been around forever. We always hear, Oh,

637
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: it's the hundred and fifty seventh meeting between the Bears

638
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Speaker 1: and the Package. It's the first time we've ever heard

639
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: of the trades. It's fresh, it's it's desctive. That's the

640
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: sound of an off season. Jan I still think the

641
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: Bears are heavy favorites here, but one more point in

642
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: the trade Tsunami's favor After a rough season in the

643
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: NFL with a lot of off the field issues, a

644
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: lot of politicking. There were a lot of comparisons to Hey,

645
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: the NBA is fun, and the NBA off season is

646
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: really fun. This was an NBA style off season for

647
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: the NFL during March. That's a great point. You gotta vote.

648
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: It was big. It was I think big for the

649
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: NFL to have that sort of pop. Are we gonna vote?

650
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Speaker 1: I have a feeling it's gonna be unanimous. But let's

651
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: just go around the room here, Mark, I'm going trades

652
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: and on me, Wow, Wow, I'm surprised there. I'm going bears.

653
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 1: I'm going trades and on me, I'm gonna go bears. Actually,

654
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Speaker 1: I have to be uh, I have to be totally

655
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: fair in in my viewpoint. I mean, they kind of

656
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 1: fit the profile. So what are we have we have

657
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 1: something in this case? Mark that Yeah, so we ought

658
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: what we have an option to do? And as we

659
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: build out the longest segment in podcast history, we can

660
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Speaker 1: get on the phone. We're gonna call We're gonna try

661
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Speaker 1: to see if this person answers. But just you know,

662
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: various friends of the show. Let's try to call m

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Speaker 1: v P and see if she might be able to

664
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Speaker 1: weigh in on this. She's gonna if she answers. All right,

665
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: quick peek behind the curtain. We we have tried to

666
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Speaker 1: call Erica, tam Posey and m A VP. We didn't

667
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 1: tell them ahead of time. Apparently it's the lunch hour

668
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 1: at the NFL. I did more than that a call

669
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Speaker 1: could be coming. So I'm quite annoyed with them, and

670
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: so let's let's try the the NFL news desk. We

671
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Speaker 1: know that they don't answer. They have to answer. It's

672
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Speaker 1: ah yeah, Matt, this is Greg with the Around the

673
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: NFL Podcast. Can you put Austin nab Block a K

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Speaker 1: A L chop Oblanco on the line before yards seamless

675
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: transition to all right, Austin, what's up? Man? This is

676
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: this is Greg of the Around the NFL Podcast. We

677
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: saw each other earlier, had some free sandwiches. How are

678
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,720
Speaker 1: you doing? Oh yeah, yeah, doing good. Yeah those sandwiches

679
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: were good. Yeah, we had a good time. Yea one

680
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: one quick point I want to make any Are you

681
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 1: upset at all? Austin as the probably the person who's

682
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: been making big time news decisions down there the longest

683
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: that David Eally has gotten so much pop on this

684
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 1: podcast where where you have not Yeah, well you know,

685
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: I'm I'm doing fine. Everything, everything's good. You know, it's

686
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: it's nothing. You know. We're trying to help Eally become

687
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: West's best man. So you know translation, he is furious.

688
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: He's called out Chopo Blanco because he sounds on ice

689
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,439
Speaker 1: to you in person, and then he'll put a knife

690
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,240
Speaker 1: in your back when you're not looking. All right, Austin,

691
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: we're asking you to help us. Uh, We're trying to

692
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: determine an off season news champion on this podcast, just

693
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: an offseason champion. We have a tie vote. We need

694
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: you to break the tie. Who do you think should

695
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: advance in this tournament? The Chicago Bears or the Trade

696
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: Tsunami one or the other. Which one is more of

697
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: an off season champion? Oh l chop Oblanco lowers the boom.

698
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: He checked up. Don't hesitate, That's why he's in the

699
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 1: big chair. Thanks, Nabby, No problem, no problem, Say alright,

700
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: let's now move on to our second of nine matchups.

701
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 1: Let's not be so quick to move on from Nabby,

702
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 1: who needs to be back on this podcast. Nabby is amazing,

703
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: Mark is so worried of that this. I'm not worried.

704
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: I'm just I have I have like my own energy

705
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: level to keep up. We'll pick it, We'll pick up

706
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: the pace, all right. Next is a matchup that the

707
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,959
Speaker 1: odds makers really got excited it about when they first

708
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: saw the Los Angeles Rams going up against one of

709
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: Los angeles Is adopted sons, Chris Wesley. This is the

710
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams. They're adding new players, They're they're getting

711
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: all the paraphernalia in the party city above the grocery

712
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: store that I go to. No Chargers paraphernalia, no Raiders,

713
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:28,720
Speaker 1: It's all Rams. They're taking over. This is tough matchup

714
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: because this is my fiance's favorite team. She was a St.

715
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 1: Louis Ram Rams fan, moved to Los Angeles, now a

716
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: huge Los Angeles Rams fan, and they do excite me

717
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: more than any team in the league right now. But

718
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: then again, it's gotta be tough for you too, because

719
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: they're going up against Chris Wesley. Right for our our

720
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: new listeners to the show. Uh, he's a man who

721
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: loves Emmy lou Harris, and he's had a big offseason,

722
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: not only kicking the Big Sea all around the yard,

723
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: got engaged, got a new house, and just been has

724
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: living it up around the country and around the town.

725
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 1: I to be totally frank. I used to weep. I

726
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: would break down and weep over how grueling the cancer

727
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: surgery and the recovery was for months, and mostly for

728
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: how bleak the future looked. Then I wasn't going to

729
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: be able to live life, to really live, not just

730
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: to survive, but to have a glass of wine to

731
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Speaker 1: you know, go out and watch the sunset. And now

732
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: I weep because my cup overflow with life is good.

733
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 1: I am happy. I've no matter whether I beat the

734
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: Rams here or not, I feel really good about my

735
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: chances for sustained happiness. I mean, this is what I

736
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: don't was your I mean, listen, I was has done

737
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: a nice job, like the Rams have done a nice

738
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: job too, But I don't know what kind of how

739
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: do I sell myself? As West's friend David Healely is

740
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: trying to get into the best in scenario to wedding.

741
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 1: I just would like to be invited. But if I

742
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: knock him out of the first round of this tournament

743
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: by going Rams, who already feel I like the Rams,

744
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: But it's like I get it. I get it with

745
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: the Rams. We everyone in any one NFL network loves

746
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: the Ring like them because we're gonna roll right down

747
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: hanging on their campus. But it's like, let's be real,

748
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: West west Over the Rams in this situation. Yeah, it's

749
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: it's an easy uh pull the West here. Uh. The

750
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: Rams have benefited from other teams, you know, making some

751
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,919
Speaker 1: mistakes in my belief, and more power too. But west

752
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: overcame things on his own. He didn't need anybody else

753
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 1: to You needed other people, needed other people, yes, and absolutely,

754
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: but those people were there because of you know, the

755
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,919
Speaker 1: things that you've built up as a person. The house, Yeah,

756
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: and the house can't be undergan credibility. The house that

757
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 1: west has moved into can't be underrated in his chances

758
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: to be the off season champion. I'll say, you know what,

759
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: you know what likes houses? Tsunamis just be careful. That's

760
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: your second round matchup. I don't know, I haven't totally

761
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: out there. I haven't totally counted out the Rams here.

762
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: I mean West Yeah, he had he added uh the

763
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: paramour to the mix. What a big pickup. But the Rams,

764
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: you know, they added a lot of people. Uh, a

765
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 1: keep to leave Marcus Peters just in terms of sheer numbers,

766
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 1: they've they brought a lot to their roster. They have

767
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,720
Speaker 1: an enjoy every sandwich hashtag or a list of the

768
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 1: perfect food items I've been able to eat this year.

769
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I like the Rams, but they are

770
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: not having the only in West West isn't like in

771
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 1: Belish And we there was ah, not only you're having

772
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: such a good offseason that you're gonna you go out

773
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: to the club. Now we somehow after the NFL party

774
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: on Thursday night, Mark West, the Paramore and a handful

775
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: of others ended up at at some sort of dance dance. Uh,

776
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 1: I don't even know what's going on. And that's when

777
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: I knew. And now in West and outside of it

778
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: he was he was commenting his cup runneth over, It's

779
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: life is just great, and I thought, I feel good

780
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: no matter what happens, if the Rams beat me, if

781
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,439
Speaker 1: the trade tsunami beats me. By the way, I become

782
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: such good friends with my neighbor in a week, we

783
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 1: have a one we have a one story house. I

784
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: just go over to their roof next door because they've

785
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: built it up. And then I'll just ride out the tsunami,

786
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: just just keeps winning. And the Rams have been there out.

787
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,240
Speaker 1: So even though even though Mark did not want West

788
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: in this turn, he's moving West to the I think

789
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: the listeners familiar with half big narratives that this show

790
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: tends to cook up. That is one of them. All Right,

791
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: all right, we're just gonna move We're gonna move on

792
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 1: West by imminent decree. Let's move on to the next matchup.

793
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: Zach Martin going up against the man no one wanted

794
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: to face, Al river n But first Claibonne. Who who

795
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,720
Speaker 1: suggested Zack Martin? Oh yeah, see, I like the techno

796
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: because you look at the two thousand fourteen NFL draft,

797
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: Jadevan Clowney wants a new deal. Spectacular player hasn't gotten one.

798
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Jr. One of the best players in the league,

799
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: hasn't gotten this deal. Aaron Donald arguably the best football

800
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: player in the National Football League. We're sitting there talking

801
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: about West locking it up. Why don't the Ramps just

802
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: go ahead and lock this up? But Zack Martin mses

803
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,760
Speaker 1: O t as like two days and all of a sudden,

804
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 1: Jerry and Company like, you know what, we gotta give

805
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: you forty million dollars. Julio Jones. It's like, oh, how

806
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: Darry Julio missed? What is Julio doing? He's tearing the

807
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: team apart. But Zack Martin, it's cool. Maybe we got

808
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: your money. Man, you're playing guard. These other guys can't

809
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 1: get paid. But hey, you know what forty million. Zack

810
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: Martin moves the needle. He's not a man to be

811
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: traveled with. They did not want to get on his bedside.

812
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: I didn't know where you're gonna go with the Zach

813
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: Martin thing, and I'm like, I'm pleased with where you went.

814
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: It was a compelling argument. When you're when you're a

815
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 1: guy that, like most people couldn't pick out of a lineup,

816
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: and you're suddenly one of the highest paid players in

817
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: the NFL, you're a winner. I mean, I think he

818
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: was an offseason champion the day he got drafted by

819
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. Because if you're gonna get if you're

820
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: gonna become a great player, that's a good team to

821
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: get drafted by, because you're gonna get paid. You can

822
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: just be even maybe a mediocre player, and you're gonna

823
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 1: get paid. So if you're as good as Zack Martin,

824
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 1: you're gonna win off seasons all over the place. But

825
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: he's got a tough matchup. I mean, he's got Al riveroys.

826
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,399
Speaker 1: It's coming off of an epic performance, all right, Als,

827
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: how's getting there? He's coming off an epic performance at

828
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: the NFL Talent Summing and not just demonstrating to a

829
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: room of us that he's a real man's man um

830
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 1: but he helped solve the catch rule. Perhaps we were

831
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 1: pretty confident and that these rule changes this offseason, they're

832
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: gonna last. They got some pop. It's definitely an improvement.

833
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: I think anyone could almost anyone who appreciates like a

834
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: certain type of personality in this country or beyond, could

835
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: look at Al RIVERRN and say, yeah, I get, I

836
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: get why this guy captures a room. The one issue

837
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: with Zack Martin is you're attached to a team that

838
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: it's you're not. They don't have casual Cowboys fans. Cowboys

839
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: fans are highly annoying, and most people that aren't attached

840
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: to the Cowboys can't stand the Cowboys and aren't that

841
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 1: excited about one of their players just hitting bank. Al

842
00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: River N is sort of a man of the people

843
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 1: who would listen entirely different type of reaction, and it's

844
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: a tough it's a tough matchup for for your guy,

845
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: Patrick Cleiban, Zack Martin al is I missed the performance.

846
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Speaker 1: Oh see, I don't even have huge fomo from the

847
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: Talent Summit this. I could try to simulate what happened

848
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: with the al Riveron. I can give you some quotes

849
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: because I've written them down, and then try to explain

850
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: how badass al Riveron is. Starts with he shows a

851
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: video of play and the analysis is not good. We

852
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: want that out of the game. NFL former NFL legends

853
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:38,280
Speaker 1: all in the audience are are, you know, critiquing his

854
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: his viewpoint on this. They've got questions why is it

855
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: out of the game? Talking about the lowering the head rule,

856
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: which he really turned me around on. Now I'm I'm

857
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: all in on everything he said. We cannot ignore that

858
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: data we have, the video we've seen. Is his response.

859
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: It's about choices. If you choose to make contact with

860
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: your helmet, you're out of the game. Dion quibbled, Hang

861
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: on a second, there, don allow me to answer the

862
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: second part of this question. He's shutting down Dion Sanders.

863
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 1: He shuts down a Hall of Fame reporter. A second later.

864
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 1: Uh process of the catch is over, he says, pulls

865
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:11,720
Speaker 1: up the des Bryant play and he goes, Dez finally

866
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 1: caught it. He's got the whole room working. And then

867
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: here here's he shows the Gronk play. He needs to

868
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 1: be tossed. We don't do it. It's not acceptable. He

869
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: needs to be tossed. The best is he puts on

870
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: the Danny Trevathan play where he's about to square up

871
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: Davante Adams in the big Monday night football game. Treviathan

872
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: gets two steps into his approach, He's still ten feet

873
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: away from Davante Adams. Reveran hits the pause button, says

874
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: we've seen enough, We've seen enough, and walks off the stage.

875
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: He made his point two steps into that play. He

876
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: knew Treviathan had bad intentions and was already lower in

877
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 1: its home. And then Greg says via text, after all,

878
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: this that's my president. As far as an individual accomplishment,

879
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 1: I can't fight that. You You brought up a good

880
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 1: a good challenger, but you just you're you're you're not

881
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: being there. Hurt you here because you have the Therese

882
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: three like disciples in the room. But the kickoff, the

883
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: kickoff rule, I'm I'm convinced is gonna be interesting. And

884
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: he and the lowering the head rule, which I know

885
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: some people think, how is this going to be called?

886
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: As he explained it, it made me feel better about it.

887
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: Maybe they're gonna tweak some things in the future, but

888
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: it was certainly important, I think, to do that versus

889
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: not doing anything. And the way that he really talked

890
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: about it convinced me that it is going to have changes,

891
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 1: not just at the NFL, but down through the college

892
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: and the high school and the and the youth level.

893
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,439
Speaker 1: So I think we just riveron in a walk right now.

894
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: The line that really sold me on our Riveron was

895
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: he said, at what point do you say no Moss

896
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 1: with replay? I don't have to tell you, guys, we

897
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: are in the entertainment business. That was music to my

898
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 1: ears that at least somebody knows that the momentum of

899
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 1: the game of the sport matters more than whether you

900
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: get a fifty call. Right Uh, Riveron is through to

901
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: the Semis And my favorite subplot of this game is

902
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 1: watching U Mark get more and more antsy about how

903
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 1: long it is. Take it is in minute forty seven

904
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: of this time, and we're fine, and uh, now we

905
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: kick it. I can feel like the wave of text

906
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: messages coming from Dan since since h he's not gonna

907
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 1: listen to us? Is he from? Not? Since uh, we've

908
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: already gotta heard about all these candidates for off season champion.

909
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: I feel like the semis and the finals will go quick.

910
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: But you've got two candidates here in the Cleveland Browns

911
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: and Kirk Cousins. This is probably the toughest matchup to

912
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 1: call of the first round. And why don't we start

913
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: off with the Cleveland brand? Well, right, we each we

914
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: each had two to pitch, and mine showed up against

915
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: each other in the same in the same match. It's

916
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: kind of like, yes, screwed, But I think I think

917
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: those are two clear contestants. We know what Cleveland has

918
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: done this offseason, and we know the awful history. And

919
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: all I'd asked you to do is when you go

920
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: and you click and you look at what they have

921
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: at it. But what they are at this point on

922
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: offense and what they are on defense, now, part of

923
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: that is what they would need to be because there's

924
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 1: there's question marks. And you took the Clinton, the name

925
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns off the team, you put them in a

926
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 1: totally different uniform. Just said, this is a roster heading

927
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: into this season. I think people might think of it

928
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: a little bit more differently, that there's a lot of

929
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: more balance here than there has been in the past.

930
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: And Tyrod Taylor, I'm not calling him a patch, but

931
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: he's obviously not the future, but they but they love

932
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 1: him for this season and if Baker Mayfield turns up

933
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: to be and this is the eighteenth rookie quarterback they've drafted,

934
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 1: but it feels a little different to me. But I'm

935
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,240
Speaker 1: I am I'm too caught up in all this to

936
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: to even know. But I do like the pieces here

937
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 1: and I think that Cleveland versus a lot of hollow

938
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: winning the off season things I have like a lot

939
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 1: has happened here where they aren't last year's team. The

940
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 1: problem is you've gotten a left tackle. What kind of

941
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: year did he pick to retire? With Joe Thomas any

942
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,240
Speaker 1: being off season champion. When you lose your best player

943
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: by far, that's a huge question and you still have

944
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: to find out if you if you have the right

945
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 1: coaching staff when the answer right now veers towards NOE.

946
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: So it's not perfect. But all these teams that won

947
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: the off season, like a few like the Rams, or

948
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: super Bowl contender like the Browns, we have to look

949
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 1: at teams that went from where they were to where

950
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 1: they are now that picked up a lot of ground

951
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 1: barring disaster. And then with Kirk Cousins, give me a break.

952
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: The guy has never won a playoff game. And I

953
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: like Kirk Cousins a lot. And I like the player.

954
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,919
Speaker 1: He has made over a hundred and he's on tap

955
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 1: to make over a hundred and thirty million dollars. Having

956
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 1: never won a playoff team as a quarterback, I don't

957
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 1: I don't think he's happy about that. That's why I

958
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: like Kirk Cousins a lot. But on paper, in terms

959
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: of family planning for the next seventy to eighty generations

960
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: in the Cousins household, he is a winner. That family

961
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: is winning. He also finally has an organization that would

962
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: commit to him. I think he's got a good two

963
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: or three years. That's a super Bowl level team too.

964
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: That made it so you couldn't pick a more talented

965
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 1: receiver group to join And I think what West said

966
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: is really important in that Jake Ruden always it was

967
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: like he had his arm around Kirk, but he never

968
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: really liked gave him a big hug, you know it

969
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: was I think he was a little ambivalent. That's revisionist history.

970
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: Jake Bruden went out on a limb to say how

971
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: great Kirk Cousins was, to say we have a franchise quarterback,

972
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: to say the front office should be locking him up,

973
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,240
Speaker 1: to say, so many teams in the NFL need quarterbacks,

974
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,439
Speaker 1: we have one, we need to lock him Kirk Cousins. Still,

975
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: the moment, it looked like Kirk Cousins wasn't going to

976
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 1: sign with the Redskins, and then that day you started

977
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: to hear Jake Gruden say some stuff bad about Kirk.

978
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: One thing I've I've noticed is how Scott mcgluwen after

979
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 1: the fact says Jay Gruden is has one of the

980
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: best minds in terms of personnel of any coaches, and

981
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: he's basically implied that he's been the one calling the

982
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: shots since the day mcgluwen left. I didn't, I flat

983
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: out do not believe that there's no way the stuff

984
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: that Jake Gruden was saying about Kirk Cousins. He was

985
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: telling the front office he wanted him signed publicly saying

986
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: that I just don't believe it, and I and I

987
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: think that's what But either way, that's one of the

988
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: reasons I think perce Allen's did not want to sign.

989
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:50,879
Speaker 1: I think we're the winner because we're not the type

990
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: anymore Redskins Kirk Cousins stories or discuss it again. I

991
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: think working there and speaking publicly about the situation there

992
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,479
Speaker 1: puts you in a tenue a spot, yeah, and it's

993
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 1: tough to extract a lot of what things mean, what

994
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 1: people say about working there while they're working there. That's

995
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: now that makes total sense, and I think that's one

996
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: of the reasons Cousins could be seen as such a

997
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: huge winner because I think the Vikings organization has been

998
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 1: stable in terms of their front office. I think they

999
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: have a coach that the players all love, not that

1000
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 1: Jake Gruden was is a coach that people don't like,

1001
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: but Mike zimmer Is is a player's coach, and I

1002
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: think he's going to an organization where I think the

1003
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: players are are treated well, and it's just it's a

1004
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: more stable organization. I would pick Cousins over the Browns,

1005
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: and I'm not trying to be cute, just that with Cleveland,

1006
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 1: you really have to prove that all these things are real.

1007
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: And we saw that the Vikings, even without Cousins with

1008
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 1: a different quarterback, were a super Bowl level team, and

1009
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 1: I think they've filled the one question mark they had.

1010
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: I think the Browns have a in a seven or

1011
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 1: eight win roster, but they've had a coaching staff that

1012
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: is underachieved as much as as any coaching staff in

1013
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: the league over the last two years. And since they're

1014
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: still there, I'm going Cousins too. I've seen this episode

1015
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 1: so many times, the Browns offseason episode. I mean, no

1016
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: better this year. This is a good looking team, that's great,

1017
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: but they still have an owner who stepped in to

1018
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: make to make or nullify bad trades, who gets involved

1019
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 1: in the football operation. And they still have a head

1020
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: coach who's one in thirty one and a defensive coordinator

1021
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 1: that has people scratching their heads about what he's doing. Yeah,

1022
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: the Browns off season is based on hope, but like

1023
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: that those checks are going to clear, Like that money

1024
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: is in Kirk's account. WO got to prove it looks

1025
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: like Cousins moves on. You know, some teams left left

1026
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: out of the might be wondering maybe they should have

1027
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: gotten into this. You know, I don't know who it

1028
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 1: could have been, Titans, Ravens. They weren't really sure, they're

1029
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 1: really they are reeling right now, trying to pick up

1030
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: the pieces franchise. What we we are into the semifinals. Uh,

1031
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: it's it's frankly a matchup people did not see coming

1032
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,879
Speaker 1: the Trade tsunami, getting past the Bears and going up

1033
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: against Chris Wesselena. And I think this really gets to

1034
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: the larger question here. Uh that Mark brought up, can

1035
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: anyone vote against West And? And I think I think

1036
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: the answer is this is the NFL's offseason championship, and

1037
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:15,879
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be the NFL as a whole. It's

1038
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 1: not just our corner of it. And so that's why

1039
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 1: I think a trend like the Trade Tsunami, it's at

1040
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,280
Speaker 1: least got a shot. You gotta give it a chance.

1041
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 1: At best, it has a shot. I mean, it barely

1042
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 1: got out of the first round. We had to call

1043
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 1: Austin knob Block to settle the tie. Half the room

1044
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 1: did not believe in trade tsunami over the Bears. I

1045
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: I don't see how a one time and not that

1046
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 1: it couldn't be happening down the road, but a two

1047
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 1: or three week uh you know, spike and behavior amongst

1048
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 1: front office people tops west of scenario the could be

1049
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 1: lasting though, trade tsunami. Maybe here's the thing. The tsunami

1050
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: came in. It reeked habt, it did its damage for

1051
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: March April and May. Where you've been, I've been out

1052
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: of joining life. Tsunami took the past two months. I mean,

1053
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: it's it's a sided and here I am sitting high

1054
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 1: on Westchester Hill, dry as a bone in defense of

1055
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 1: the tsunami. I view it as an accomplishment, as a

1056
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 1: prediction by Greg first and foremost. That's how I got here,

1057
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: and and he crushed it. I voted for the Bears,

1058
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: you know, got through just for merit. But uh so,

1059
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 1: are we just going to move west along to the

1060
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 1: unless both of you are picking tsunami or we're calling

1061
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 1: someone west. West is into the finals, and I think

1062
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 1: he's gonna have a tough matchup in the finals. Just

1063
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: looking at it, whether it's our river n or Kirk Cousins,

1064
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a tough matchup. But I think,

1065
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 1: like you put those two guys in a room, river

1066
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: N and Cousins, only one of them comes out. I'm taking.

1067
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 1: I feel the exact same way I what we beheld

1068
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 1: that performance. To hold a room of that magnitude of

1069
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: those specific personalities in one hand and do whatever you

1070
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: want with it, That's what river N did. Well, let

1071
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 1: me let me asked you one other thing. Let's just

1072
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: say this is the pretext to Kirk Cousins being one

1073
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: of the richest athletes on the planet. Um winning a

1074
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: super Bowl with the vice and seeing money changed the

1075
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: game with that con there you go and and everyone

1076
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 1: thinks that the Philly Super Bowl was a big deal,

1077
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 1: and it was because that city has not had anything

1078
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,319
Speaker 1: like that ever. But what if you go do that

1079
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: for the city or the state of Minnesota, the city

1080
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: of Innneapolis and those Vikings fans who have been through

1081
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 1: hell that I love our Riveron, but our Riveron is

1082
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: an official and by nature, how much do we love officials?

1083
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: My thing is, there's so many conversations that we all

1084
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:34,839
Speaker 1: have when we lay awake at night, Like I wish

1085
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 1: I would have said that, but Riveron does this on

1086
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,720
Speaker 1: a stage where there's Hall of famers, and he basically

1087
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: nails every conversation. But even then, if you were to

1088
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 1: ask me, would I nail every conversation that I've ever

1089
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: had or would I rather have eighty four million dollars? Yeah?

1090
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: Go with Kirk. Wow, that's interesting, you know, cousins. Uh,

1091
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 1: you know you mentioned what could happen, But that to

1092
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 1: me that the season, that's when they do that, dude,

1093
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 1: that's when they do keep score. And this is the

1094
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 1: off season and I'm leaving this offseason. I'm thinking river

1095
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 1: Iron is a man of the off season, not only

1096
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,240
Speaker 1: for the performance that he had, but for the change.

1097
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 1: I think that he's gonna bring, you know, lasting change

1098
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 1: in a time of of political gridlock. River Rod brings change.

1099
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 1: Are we are we voting here? You you had, cousins,

1100
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 1: But I think river n moves on three to one

1101
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 1: and we're into the finals, and uh, I think West

1102
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: has to be a little worried here. I am think

1103
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I think when we're determining the off

1104
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 1: season champion, Uh, I don't know. I mean I I

1105
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:50,959
Speaker 1: at first, when we thought of this exercise was gonna

1106
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 1: be all teams. We're just gonna decide which team. And

1107
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: now we get to the finals and it's just two

1108
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 1: two men standing there. And I think the case for

1109
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: river On at least includes that West West has brought

1110
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 1: joy to everyone that knows him and his his fans

1111
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: and certainly his friends, his family. Our rivern could be

1112
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: out there changing lives for young kids playing football, making

1113
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 1: it the sport safer with some of these rule changes,

1114
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 1: and changing thousands and thousands of lives into the future

1115
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: with some of the rules that he's helped UH to oversee.

1116
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: There's a line from a poem that has haunted me

1117
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 1: my entire adult life. All my life. My heart has

1118
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 1: sought something I cannot name. And before cancer, before I

1119
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 1: met Lakeisha, I didn't know what that thing was, but

1120
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 1: it was sense of peace. And now I have that

1121
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: thing that my heart cannot name. It's a sense of

1122
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 1: peace with myself. I'll no longer rage against the world.

1123
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 1: But here's the upset. I have fewer insecurities now. Run

1124
00:57:56,840 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 1: Al Riveron has zero insecurities. He's a man walking around.

1125
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 1: I'm happy, full of life. He doesn't have to question

1126
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 1: anything because he knows he's right. He there are no

1127
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 1: insecurities in that man, and that's a fine way to

1128
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 1: walk through life. Well, I don't know if we know

1129
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 1: that about like that, that's a bit of a leap.

1130
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:18,439
Speaker 1: But there was a moment during this during the media

1131
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 1: summit where the room was basically told, like, whatever you

1132
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 1: think you've been through in the past year, look at

1133
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: West and like that was from John Marvel down in

1134
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: the newsroom, and the entire place stood up and clapped

1135
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 1: and they meant it. So I think that the room

1136
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 1: told you who won this? So that was that was

1137
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 1: the reason that you stood so strongly against West getting

1138
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: into this tournament. Was that was that you just thought

1139
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 1: it would be a walk for him. I do think

1140
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 1: it's a walk, and that's that that shouldn't be put

1141
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 1: through the wrong prison. It's like, this story is more

1142
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 1: powerful than trades or Zack Martin making a bank and

1143
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 1: eating like Mexican food in Dallas, you know, and not

1144
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: having to pay for it. So why doesn't he have

1145
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 1: to because it's like it just comes. He'll never It's

1146
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 1: like you at that point, you're so rich, you're taking

1147
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: twenty people out to dinner and it doesn't even appear

1148
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 1: in your bank. Well, he's long gone. Riveron dispatched them

1149
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 1: and he's made it to the finals? Are we I

1150
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 1: is there any chance here Riveron can win? I think so? Yeah,

1151
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 1: I do too well. Now you have to vote against

1152
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 1: him just to make that happen. I mean, you guys

1153
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 1: are gonna have a big saying that. I can't imagine.

1154
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 1: I'm sure somebody might have had a better offseason than

1155
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 1: West in the world, but as far as in the

1156
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 1: NFL community, I we would have heard about it. Yeah,

1157
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 1: and you ever is about to lose his fifth official

1158
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: you can we can? We look at the objective you've

1159
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 1: made and one thing about that West has done, and

1160
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 1: the paramore is, uh, You've made sure to I think

1161
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 1: enjoy it each stop along the way. It's not just

1162
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 1: like flying you by where you're just having this great

1163
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 1: time and like you're kind of not, you know, totally

1164
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 1: appreciating it. It's like you're a you seem like you're

1165
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 1: appreciating every minute. To the point where Mark talked about

1166
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 1: and they asked me to stand up at the Talent Summit,

1167
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 1: how do you cheer for a bond Vivan? The way

1168
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 1: I've been living my life lately, I don't deserve the cheers.

1169
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 1: It's the guy in November and December who deserves the cheers,

1170
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 1: you know. But but yeah, I'm I don't think you

1171
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 1: deserve them. I am probably enjoying life a little too

1172
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 1: much where it seems a little like flagrant you're stealing. Yeah,

1173
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 1: I'm I am in joy. I am taking this offseason

1174
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 1: away from whoever was gonna stealing. All right, it's a

1175
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 1: strong case here. I think al Riveron is gonna sleep

1176
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 1: tonight despite the results. Again, Yeah, here's your vote here.

1177
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 1: My vote is Wes. Okay West. Yeah, I think the

1178
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: fact that I'm just gonna be thoroughly, completely happy regardless

1179
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 1: of the results means that I'm the winner. Like I

1180
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 1: don't even have to worry about who wins. Take us home.

1181
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 1: You know, I thought it would have been really really

1182
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 1: funny if in the end river Ran took her out,

1183
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 1: or even if like you know, it's like, yeah, you know, Wes,

1184
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 1: you've done well, But the Browns did add Jarvis Lander.

1185
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 1: You know, it's like we have to give it to them.

1186
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 1: But uh, I guess I guess that's it. We have

1187
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 1: to crown him off. See the champion. Chris Wesley puts

1188
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 1: me on par with like the two thousand fifteen Browns.

1189
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 1: I think I think we learned a lot today. I

1190
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 1: think it was a great discussion. It was. And you're

1191
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 1: not eligible, Well, I guess should we make a rule

1192
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 1: he's not eligible for next off? See if you could

1193
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,919
Speaker 1: somehow top this office. I don't want. I don't want

1194
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 1: my mind to go where I would have to go

1195
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 1: in order to top it. Yeah, okay, that's fair. I

1196
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a tough title to defend,

1197
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 1: but we're bringing this one back. I don't care what

1198
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 1: the list. It's a special champion this this year before trophy.

1199
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 1: Very rich here. I can't wait till some British guy

1200
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 1: gets a tattoo of me on his arm. Yeah, someone,

1201
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 1: I want someone that'll be happening by Saturday. Said, I

1202
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 1: want someone to send uh the tattoo of the bracket,

1203
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 1: the entire bracket. So that would be because it's been

1204
01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: a special it's been a special episode, or at least

1205
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 1: sort of photo shop of the brackets. Your word that

1206
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 1: you've been keeping. Okay, I will send it out. I

1207
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 1: did a really bad brax. Someone could just get a

1208
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: tattoo that says it's about me. It would be amazing

1209
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 1: while we've done it. Clai Bon, thanks for coming in

1210
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 1: while you're you're in, but thanks for coming up here,

1211
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 1: and thanks for preventing any breaking news from happening over

1212
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 1: the last year. Hey, yeah, you know, I did what

1213
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 1: I could. I got the supplemental draft stuff out of

1214
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 1: the way, and and of course congratulations to Chris Westling.

1215
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 1: The two thousand and eighteen. This is right up there

1216
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 1: with Checky or Champion music. Well, let's go out with

1217
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 1: this music, all right? For Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and

1218
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 1: Patrick Laivan. I'm Greg Rosenthal. We will be back on Thursday.

1219
01:02:49,440 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 1: See that two