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Speaker 1: A new episode of Phishiology here on the Fish Strips

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Speaker 1: podcast channel is right on Deck with Daniel Rodriguez, Lewis,

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Speaker 1: Addio Weiss, and myself, Eli Sussman.

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Speaker 2: Before getting into.

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Speaker 1: That conversation recorded between the three of us last week,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to add a brief prologue about the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three zip's projections. It's an annual tradition from Dan

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Speaker 1: Simborski of Fangrafts to put out these projections for every

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Speaker 1: single player in the majors and a lot of players

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Speaker 1: who are not in the majors and won't likely even

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Speaker 1: play in the Majors this upcoming season. It's an extremely

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Speaker 1: thorough look on each individual player, and it uses a

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Speaker 1: series of comparisons historical comps between what these players are

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Speaker 1: capable of during the upcoming season and what players going

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Speaker 1: back several decades have done at individual seasons with similar

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Speaker 1: skill sets and at the same age as these guys.

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Speaker 1: Going through the Marlins list. There were five key takeaways

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Speaker 1: that I had from the twenty twenty three edition, and

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Speaker 1: we'll just go through them right now. Ones that stick

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Speaker 1: out to me for a variety of reasons I think

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Speaker 1: would intrigue you as well in terms of what the

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Speaker 1: numbers say, what this particular pretty well renowned algorithm says

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Speaker 1: about what to expect from Marlins players this upcoming season.

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Speaker 1: And we start off number one with Sandi al Contra

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Speaker 1: in his projected regression. I think in the back of

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Speaker 1: our minds allowed us to understand that, coming off a

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Speaker 1: Sandy is going to replicate that historic season in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three, And Zips is in that camp, projecting his

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Speaker 1: RA to spike by more than a full run. It

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Speaker 1: was two twenty eight last year. Is projected ERA for

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, according to Zips is three point three

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Speaker 1: two endings will go down, a tiny bit walk rate

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Speaker 1: tiny bit home run rate going up quite a bit.

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Speaker 1: I think that's the most significant difference, is whether Sandy

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Speaker 2: Zips doesn't think so. Zips thinks he's gonna draw a

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Speaker 1: To his career norms instead of his twenty twenty two

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Speaker 1: Zips spits out for him include Jordan Zimmerman you remember

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Speaker 1: And now his new teammate Johnny Quato comes up as

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Speaker 1: one of the more similar pitchers to him at this

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Speaker 1: originally projected to be the clear Marlins number two starter,

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Speaker 1: any of the other younger perhaps higher upside Marlin's pictures.

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Speaker 1: They thought of that Pablo was the safer bet, projecting

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Speaker 1: And they're projecting him to make twenty eight starts this

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Speaker 1: upcoming episode about the Arise Pablo trade. We're not discussing

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Speaker 1: full breakdown that I thought the Twins made out really

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Speaker 1: Nick and right was a good reliever right away. I

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Speaker 1: Number four, my Zips takeaways pointing to the most under

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Speaker 3: Man the pitch you know, Hosa swagget. He bounced this

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Speaker 4: Hello, and welcome to a brand new episode of Phishology.

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Speaker 4: For those of you who may be new to this podcast.

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Speaker 4: Here in Physiology, we'd like to give you all the

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Speaker 4: I know for this podcast Lewis adel Wise mister Eli

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Speaker 4: sub susman. Excuse me, how are you guys feeling for

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Speaker 4: So for this episode, we're gonna be talking about first thing,

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Speaker 4: I think, yeah, Lewis, I'd love to hear your opinion

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Speaker 1: Just what jumps out is going tying into White such

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Speaker 1: It's such a big gap between Triple A and the majors.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. The last thing I wanted to mention before we

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Speaker 4: improving the bab up and his batting skills, when while

437
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 4: he's improving in terms of leads, going from double A

438
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,239
Speaker 4: to triple A just almost one hundred points better in

439
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 4: his BABBU.

440
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 1: No, Well, to me, I'll say quickly, I don't think

441
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 1: there's much since that when you play in the Pacific

442
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 1: Coast League, such a hit or friendly environments. Some of

443
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,879
Speaker 1: these ballparks, that kind of elevation that's played at it

444
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 1: really makes the ball absolutely fly off the bat and

445
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 1: given field there's less time to get where they need

446
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,199
Speaker 1: to get in order to field it. It looks to

447
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 1: me like a guy that was just exploiting the advantages

448
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 1: of his new surroundings up in Triple A. I would

449
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 1: chalck most of that up to just that something to

450
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,440
Speaker 1: look closer into, you know, when we have the time

451
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 1: to really look at where those bat balls are going.

452
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 1: But to me, that's why you take some of the

453
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,159
Speaker 1: Triple A basic stats with a grain of salt, just

454
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 1: because of how the Pacific Coast League rewards guys for

455
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 1: doing the bare minimum.

456
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's maybe just the drier air from playing

457
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 6: out on that side of the country that facilitates that.

458
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 6: I mean, we see it in the big leagues in Colorado, Arizona.

459
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 6: You know, guys tend to do a little bit better

460
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 6: because of that dry air. You know, breaking stuff doesn't

461
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 6: move as well. But when you get to the big

462
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 6: leagues and you're going to be playing in a more

463
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 6: humid climate division primarily in the NL East.

464
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Speaker 5: There think there's going to be some regression.

465
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 6: I mean, babub is definitely something you need to look

466
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 6: at when you're talking about percentages is how far how

467
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 6: often the guy puts the ball in play and you

468
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 6: know he's rewarded for that at the end of the day. Though,

469
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,360
Speaker 6: I think there's, like I said, there's some regression that's

470
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 6: going to be expected, just given the fact that you

471
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 6: know he's going to be facing better pitching.

472
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 5: He's going to.

473
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 6: You know, he just gradually there may be some regression.

474
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Speaker 6: And that being said, you know, maybe you start him

475
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 6: at double A rather than triple A as a means

476
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 6: of just you know, as he noted, the disparity and

477
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 6: the talent between the two leagues is that you know,

478
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,479
Speaker 6: maybe face have him face pitching that's closer to big

479
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 6: league pitching. And honestly, given where Miami is with you know,

480
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 6: their short stop position right now, we you know, having

481
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 6: traded Rojas, he beyond maybe Joey Wendel seems like the

482
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,880
Speaker 6: one guy who could be, you know, the most.

483
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 5: Reasonable option to start at that position.

484
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 6: But you know, comes down to what he does in

485
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 6: spring training and whether or not the club feels he's ready,

486
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 6: and I guess that just remains to be seen, But

487
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 6: you know, wouldn't be the worst decision given where they

488
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,360
Speaker 6: are in the scope of that division. Let guy take

489
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 6: his lumps if he does, in fact impress you enough

490
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 6: to make.

491
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Speaker 5: It to the big leagues.

492
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you mentioned him right there, Joey Wendell. Let's

493
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 4: move on a little bit and talk about who is

494
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 4: going to be the starting shortstop for the Marlins are

495
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 4: opening day they treat Miguilro has to get Jacob e Maya.

496
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 4: Looks like they're gonna put him either the bench Tripa

497
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 4: as the Miners not going to be opening day started.

498
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 4: But it does look like Joey Wendo will be the

499
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 4: opening day shortstop for the Marlins. And let's just take

500
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 4: a little rewind back to his twenty twenty two season.

501
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 4: It was a little injury field, played around one hundred

502
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 4: games for the Marlins. You look at his ops and

503
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 4: everything just slightly under seven hundred round six sixty ops

504
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,880
Speaker 4: plus eighty six. Lewis when I tell you twenty twenty two,

505
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 4: Joey Wendell, what really stands out to you? What's the

506
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,160
Speaker 4: first thing that really comes to your mind when I mentioned.

507
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 5: I think it's a tale of two seasons.

508
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 6: And I say that given that on one side of

509
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 6: the ball he was excellent, and that's obviously the defensive side.

510
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 6: What he didn't do at the plate he made up

511
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 6: for to some extent with his glove. I believe Baseball

512
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 6: Reference still credited him with something like two and a

513
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 6: half wins. So again, he was still a slightly above

514
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 6: average big league player in the way that Miguel Rojas

515
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 6: tends to generally be be despite the fact that he

516
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 6: had yes a down year offensively, and again that's to

517
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,159
Speaker 6: be expected. You're going from the Al East, which you

518
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 6: know tends to feature a lot of hitter friendly ballpark's.

519
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 6: Wendell hit very well in his time in Tampa. I

520
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 6: believe he was about ten percent of the league average

521
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 6: for the majority of his tenure there. And then you're

522
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 6: gonna go to a pitcher friendly ballpark, different style of

523
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,679
Speaker 6: you know, National League pitching is a little bit different,

524
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 6: and you know there's gonna be some cause for regression.

525
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 6: I think, you know, like he, like I said, he

526
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,679
Speaker 6: still provided you value because he was immensely valuable in

527
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 6: terms of saving runs at both second and third base,

528
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 6: and now you're gonna maybe just you're going to give

529
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 6: him the keys to shortstop, which is, you know, more

530
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 6: of a defensively challenging position, a position he's played before.

531
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 6: We even saw him play at at times last year.

532
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 6: So you know, in that sense, I'm confident that he'll rebound.

533
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 6: But yeah, when you when I think about his twenty

534
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 6: twenty two it's just that he got it done on

535
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 6: one end of the ball and he did on the other,

536
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 6: and even then when he was at the plate, was

537
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 6: still making consistent contact. Wendell is one of those guys

538
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 6: who doesn't strike out. He has an aptitude for putting

539
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 6: the ball in play, and that is important to do

540
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 6: if you're not going to walk a lot. He is

541
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,199
Speaker 6: a pretty aggressive hitter, but it's aggressive and almost like

542
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 6: a Hans ro Alberto kind of way where it might

543
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 6: with a little bit more power, where you know he

544
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 6: won't walk a lot, but he will, you know, find

545
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,199
Speaker 6: the ball with bat more often than not.

546
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 5: And you know, that's a good thing.

547
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 6: And I think that leads you to believe that with

548
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 6: the new defensive rules going into plays, with the shift

549
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 6: kind of being banned and positioning kind of having to

550
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 6: be different and maybe Wendell runs into some more hits

551
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 6: next year, but it's marginal at best. I think you

552
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 6: can hope that the defense sustains itself and that the

553
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 6: bat rebounds to maybe a league average extent, and you're

554
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 6: still talking about a three or four win player if

555
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 6: that happens, and that's you know, that's still exciting, and

556
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 6: then that would definitely help the Marlins cause for sure.

557
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, Eli, what's your let me get your opinion on

558
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 4: join Wendell now being the opening day starter and maybe

559
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 4: what you saw from twenty twenty twenty twenty two season,

560
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 4: maybe to strike up percentage walk percenta is just really

561
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 4: what you saw from twenty twenty two version of Joey Wendell.

562
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: Oh, he's an easy player to root for. He does

563
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: the stuff that the common fan absolutely doors with his

564
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: ability to put the ball in play, to do it

565
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: in very high leverage situations as well, and early in

566
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: the year he was not only i mean right behind Jazz,

567
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: he was maybe the most valuable player over the first However,

568
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: Low mentally suffered that initial hamstring injury. You mentioned the

569
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: time that he missed, and both times that was due

570
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: to hamstring issues aggravating it, and unfortunately he had a

571
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: history of that even before twenty twenty two. So I

572
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: think before he even gets him as a player, it's

573
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: just a question of his durability and how many games

574
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: you can realistically expect from him moving forward.

575
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 2: Now that he's a guy that.

576
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: He's passed his he's about to pass what he would

577
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: expect to be is typical prime years. He's going to

578
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: turn thirty three shortly after opening Day. With him, it's

579
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: he's a guy that it's very easy for him to

580
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: improve your team just because of how good he is

581
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: situationally and fundamentally in the versatility that he has to

582
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: play all those positions you mentioned that defensive run saved

583
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: absolutely loved him last year, especially at second base in

584
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: shortstop and you move by outs above average, who's in

585
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: the eighty third percent tile With how he played over there,

586
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: he doesn't make very many mistakes, and he puts himself

587
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: into the position to get rid of balls quickly so

588
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: that his pretty poor arm strength doesn't really get exposed

589
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: on his throws as long as he's in a good

590
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: position to field balls and get rid of them quickly

591
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: in the first place, he's a nice player. This is

592
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: a Marlins team that going back many months, probably going

593
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: back a couple of years now, Lewis has been repeatedly

594
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: just reminding them that it's okay to go big on

595
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: an everyday star caliber shortstop that have been available a

596
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: lot each of the last two offseasons, knowing that the

597
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: Marlins don't really budget for that, and they skipped out

598
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: on those classes the last couple of years. So their

599
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: path to getting like a star player at that position,

600
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: it's really fuzzy right now. We just talked about Amaya

601
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: and his potential, but also kind of his realistic concerns,

602
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: and with Wendell, certainly the upside is nowhere close to being.

603
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 2: That great player at the position.

604
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: So he's fine for this year, and it's a very

605
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: big it's a it's gonna be fascinating to see where

606
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: they go with the shortstop position beginning in twenty twenty four,

607
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: or even by the end of twenty twenty three, the

608
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: team is out of it and trades Wendell in his

609
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: final year before free agency, it's a.

610
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 2: Huge question going forward.

611
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: This offseason, We've talked a lot about center field in particular.

612
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: We talked about the bullpen. But really for the near

613
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: term future of this organization, I'd say the biggest question

614
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: is shortstop and where if anybody, if there's really any candidate,

615
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: any obtainable piece that can give them star level production

616
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: at that position. They weren't getting it from Miggy Row.

617
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: They're not going to get it from Wendell as well.

618
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: And it's kind of it is a little bit what's

619
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: the word that I'm looking for.

620
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 2: I'm jealous.

621
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: I'm jealous of the other teams that have these plug

622
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: and play, star caliber shortstops. We are living in kind

623
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: of a golden age of shortstop depth around baseball, and

624
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: the Marlins are have not been part of that. It's

625
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: been many, many years since they've had that kind of

626
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: caliber player at that position.

627
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just looking at some of Joey Wendo's really

628
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 4: percentiles from Baseboss vont just really just a lot of four,

629
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 4: a lot of blue from him, Joey Wendo and everything there.

630
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 4: Looking at his max Ezebila you mentioned egzibula from Jacobamaya.

631
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 4: His is a round. He's mentioned one O four at

632
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 4: twenty four years old, Joey Wendel Roun one oh seven

633
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 4: and it's been really tailing off year by year for

634
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 4: Joey Wendel. Lewis, just how do you see Joey Wendell

635
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 4: going into twenty twenty three, Maybe in terms of his defense.

636
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 4: We talked a lot about his offense, Just how do

637
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 4: you see him holding up at that position? As you

638
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 4: mentioned now that he's thirty three years old, just a

639
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 4: few days after opening Day.

640
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm under the guys that if you allow

641
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 6: him to play short step every day, he's still going

642
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 6: to be better than maybe half the shortstops and say

643
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 6: the entirety of the sport. That being said, I think

644
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 6: when you take away Wendo's defensive versatility and you relegate

645
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 6: him to one position, you are losing a little bit

646
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 6: of value because, like Fielding Bible would illustrate, and most

647
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 6: sites that outline DRS show you he's valuable at multiple positions.

648
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 6: The concern I have though with him is obviously I

649
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 6: previously touched on the fact that he is an aggressive hitter.

650
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 6: That's his zone swing percentage has gone up, and if

651
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 6: you look at the pro rated numbers, he walked fifteen

652
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 6: times in one hundred and one games last year. You

653
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 6: pro write that over the course of a full season.

654
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 6: You're talking about a guy who's walking less than thirty times.

655
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 6: And again, he's not striking out a lot. He's only

656
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 6: going to strike out about eighty times if you're pro

657
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 6: rating his twenty twenty two over the course of a

658
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 6: full season. But again, you know there are concerns will

659
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 6: the power returned the way it did say in twenty

660
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 6: twenty one. I don't know, although, and then you look at, say,

661
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 6: how he is as a situational player. And we taught

662
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 6: we hear this spoken about a lot where teams like

663
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 6: the Rays, when the Rays get rid of a player,

664
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 6: or the Dodgers who recently traded with the Marlins for

665
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 6: Rojas and gave us a maya. When teams like that,

666
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 6: who are very analytically inclined to get rid of a player,

667
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 6: we tend to think that they know something that we don't,

668
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 6: so they'll, you know, load a player on us. I

669
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 6: looked at Wendel's win probability added metrics by the leverage

670
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 6: indecks and for those who aren't aware, leverage indecks indicates

671
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 6: anything above one is high leverage, anything below one is

672
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 6: low leverage.

673
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 5: One exactly is medium leverage. Et cetera.

674
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 6: There, Wendel's leverage a win probability added in high leverage situations,

675
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 6: was actually gradually decreasing over the last couple of years.

676
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 6: I believe it was about negative point four in twenty

677
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 6: twenty one, if I'm not mistaken with Tampa, and then

678
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 6: if you go to twenty twenty two, where he has

679
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 6: the down year boe I noted it was marred by

680
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 6: a hamstring injury, it's negative point five to eight. So

681
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 6: maybe the rays we're seeing that, hey, like this guy

682
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 6: was great for us for a couple of years, we

683
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 6: kind of got all of the value I guess the

684
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 6: best seasons of his career that we were gonna get.

685
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 6: So let's unload him now, And they kind of just

686
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 6: did that. And maybe that's another thing that has me

687
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 6: a little concerned is that the Marlins didn't see within

688
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 6: a foresight that hey, maybe this guy will he'll prove

689
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 6: valuable at certain times. He's not gonna provide you that

690
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,760
Speaker 6: that that you were looking for when you acquired him initially,

691
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 6: and that is concerning. That is the one thing that

692
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 6: would lead me to believe that he won't fully rebound offensively.

693
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 6: And like Eli said, he's kind of like transitioning out

694
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 6: of his prime as he hits his mid thirties. But again,

695
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 6: I still think that if you, you know, if Amaya

696
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 6: has a strong spring, that could even be a net

697
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 6: benefit to Wendell because I think it would allow him

698
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 6: to resume almost like a Birdie like level of versatility.

699
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 6: He won't play the outfield, but he'll you know, move

700
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,919
Speaker 6: around in the infield, spell guys at times and still

701
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 6: get consistent playing time and provide you good defense of

702
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 6: multiple positions. That could still make him a valuable player.

703
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 6: But yeah, like if the bat doesn't rebound, I think

704
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 6: you know, you're you're at best going to get what

705
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 6: you got last year, and that's a marginally above league

706
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 6: average defender slash hitter with questions surrounding his play discipline.

707
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 4: Before we move to the next topic again, Lewis, how

708
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 4: do you feel is how do you think the state

709
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,240
Speaker 4: of the shortstop position is for the Marlins going forward?

710
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:39,240
Speaker 4: Just top to bottom organizational wise, guys on forty MANAA,

711
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 4: just let's say, for the foreseeable future, how do you

712
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 4: think the Marlins are positional wise? Would shortstop?

713
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 6: So let's look at the free agent shortstop list for

714
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 6: twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four. It is not strong

715
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 6: at all.

716
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 2: I was going to say, let's not look at it

717
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 2: because it doesn't.

718
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 5: Really well, you know.

719
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 6: Unfortunately, like if we're we're airing on the side of pessimism,

720
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 6: we kind of have to because I think if you

721
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 6: look at the Roehush trade, the Marlins obviously wanted to

722
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 6: get younger, correct. You know, Rojas is in his mid thirties.

723
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 6: He great defender, he's at times a good hitter, though

724
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 6: that track record doesn't sustain itself over a long period

725
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 6: of time. But you look at the trade for Amaya

726
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 6: who and the trade for the likes of Edwards another

727
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 6: race transplant like Wendel, the Marlins are banking on, you know,

728
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 6: younger guys, Khalil Watson being another guy, though there's already

729
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 6: questions about his character and the swing and misses out

730
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 6: of control in the lower levels of the miners. They

731
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,959
Speaker 6: are definitely as it appears on the surface, they look

732
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 6: as if they are banking on upgrading that position internally

733
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 6: though they you know, went out and made a couple

734
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 6: of trades to upgrade. But let's look at the free

735
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 6: agent short stop market. Tim Anderson has a club option

736
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 6: with the White Sox. If he has another Tim Anderson

737
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,760
Speaker 6: ESQ year, that likely gets picked up. No hobby bias

738
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 6: is at with that way that first season went in Detroit,

739
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 6: He's likely not going anywhere. Brandon Crawford a guy who

740
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 6: will be entering his late thirties by the time he

741
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 6: hits free agency. Paul de Young a guy who's had

742
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 6: swinging misquestions his whole career.

743
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 4: He will sit down.

744
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 6: I believe this exactly, but he has power and that

745
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 6: is alluring to most teams. Isaiah Kiner Fileffa another Rojas

746
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 6: like player. Doesn't strike out, not a lot of pop

747
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 6: great pleasures, multi positional versatility, al Roberto Mondesi a base stealer,

748
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 6: something that could prove valuable. But again, always Hurt doesn't

749
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 6: walk that. We've seen that with Wendel this year or

750
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 6: last season. Hurt Rojas as well. Ahmed Rosario may be

751
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 6: the most attractive guy, but even then we're talking about

752
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 6: guys who met. Rosario is another example of a guy

753
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 6: who has a very aggressive approach to the plate. Though

754
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 6: he you know, coming off an excellent year in Cleveland.

755
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 6: We'll see if Cleveland decides to walk him up long term.

756
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 6: So yeah, when you really, you know, scour the potential

757
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 6: free agent market for next year and you look at

758
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,280
Speaker 6: the moves that they made, they're definitely trying or hoping

759
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 6: or you know, Ag and co. Are hoping and holding

760
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 6: out that they have the answer internally, whether it's YETI

761
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 6: Cape in a couple of years, or it's you know,

762
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 6: the likes of Edwards or Amaya. They're banking on one

763
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 6: of those three, if not multiple guys to potentially feel

764
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 6: that that now it's avoid long term because Wendell isn't

765
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 6: a guy for the next five to six years given

766
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 6: his age and you know steady decline that we've seen

767
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 6: at the plate over the last couple of seasons.

768
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I just want to say, I think we've

769
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: mentioned this on a previous Fisiology episode, but I think

770
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 1: the maybe the not the best outcome, but one outcome

771
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: that I guess is possible for this season for whatever reason,

772
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: if Wendell gets moved or he gets hurt again, and

773
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: they've a vacant short soop spot and they're in a

774
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: position where Jazz has to play there on a consistent basis,

775
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: and Jazz performs well at shortstop, which he didn't do

776
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, but we feel what he might

777
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: be capable of doing, just based on his skill set

778
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 1: and based on why he didn the minders.

779
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 2: If somehow they wind up in.

780
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: A position where Jazz is playing there every day and

781
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 1: he puts together a complete season, his best season yet,

782
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: then there you go, boom, then you have your answer

783
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 1: at that position is going to be a very expensive

784
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: answer to extends him at that point, but I think

785
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: that'd be a good problem to have, and that'd really

786
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: be the that's the pine in the sky scenario, is

787
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: that they wind up needing Jazz at that position and

788
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: he runs with it that moving all the way up

789
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: the defensive spectrum. Fingers crossed that we get to see

790
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 1: him at least try to play short at some point

791
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: during twenty twenty three.

792
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, so let's go on to our last topic just

793
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 4: really quickly enough to spend too much time on this,

794
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,919
Speaker 4: and that's the news that Dan Castano has been a

795
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 4: DFA by the Martins to make room for Johnny Quato

796
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 4: to make ruin the forty man roster.

797
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 5: Really quick.

798
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 4: I wanted to ask you, Eli, just what if me

799
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 4: now for the Morlans terms of starting position, starting pitching,

800
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 4: and maybe what you saw from Dan Castano and maybe

801
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 4: from last season, because I know he really improved a

802
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 4: lot in terms of being a starter and as a

803
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 4: pitcher entirely last season.

804
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 2: He did say that he made some interesting adjustments.

805
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: What sticks out in short is that he's a guy

806
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 1: that has had far below average velocity and he's been

807
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: extremely hittable in his previous major league stints. So what

808
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: he tried doing this past year is leaning heavily on

809
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: his cutter. Instead of going low nineties upper eighties with

810
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: his heater, he tried going mid eighties with his cutter.

811
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: He threw it about forty percent of the time in

812
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 1: the big leagues last year. There were a couple of

813
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: days where he just had it clicking and got great results.

814
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 1: What sticks out is that game he pitched against the

815
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: Phillies right in the middle of the year where he

816
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: went into the seventh nning scoreless. He's a guy that

817
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: when he's on, he works deep inso games because unfortunately

818
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 1: he doesn't really have an option when it comes to

819
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: missing bats. His stuff is his raw stuff is just

820
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: so marginal, and his command has never been particularly good either.

821
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: That hitters can get their bat on the ball, but

822
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: when he's on, he gets a lot of soft contact

823
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: and he's able to get things done. He had a

824
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: weird Marlin's career in that over in parts of three seasons,

825
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: his ERA was almost a full run lower than his

826
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: FIP has field or independent pitching. It is unusual to

827
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: have a gap that's that large over that significant of

828
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,919
Speaker 1: a sample, because in just by watching him every day,

829
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 1: it's hard to come with any other conclusion that he

830
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: was a little bit fortunate to have a sub forward

831
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 1: era with his Marlins stints. There's really no other way

832
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: around it. From a roster management standpoint, though, this was

833
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 1: the right move in light of Queto coming aboard, because

834
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: Quayl actually has some similarities at this stage of his career,

835
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: except obviously as a much longer track record.

836
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 2: He it's a deeper pitch mix, etc. With Quato, not

837
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 2: with Cueto.

838
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: With Castano, he was out of minor league options and

839
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: for the moment there was really no path for him

840
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: to be anywhere close to a starter, and even a

841
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: long reliever like he didn't have a clear niche on

842
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: this team moving forward. So in this move it might ultimately

843
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: be insignificant because he could clear waivers, he could get

844
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: sense of the minors, and then he could just report

845
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: to spring training as another depth arm in the organization.

846
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: And so that's that's what my fingers are crossed, because

847
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 1: he's fun personality and I think he does have some value.

848
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: He has shown some flashes of being a useful depth

849
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,720
Speaker 1: piece spot starter when things are going on. So hopefully

850
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: he finds his way to stay in this organization despite

851
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: being deafade.

852
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, Lewis any final thoughts on Dani Castani? You want

853
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 4: to mention before we go?

854
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 6: I mean, like, the Marlins didn't do all that bad

855
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 6: in that trade with Saint Louis, now did they for

856
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 6: Marcelo Zuna? You know, he gets Zach Gallon, you get Sandy,

857
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 6: and you get you know, even to get this kind

858
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 6: of performance out of Castano, who is the afterthought of

859
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 6: that trade for sure, though obviously Gallon is no longer

860
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 6: with Miami. That's you know, that's Kevin Lee. One of

861
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 6: the better trades in franchise history. I think we can

862
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 6: argue it's up there with the Hoffman Sheffield deal that

863
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 6: they made in ninety three when they swap.

864
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 5: Those two guys.

865
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 6: But yeah, it's you know, you feel for the guy.

866
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 6: I believe Eli, me and Noah did that game in

867
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 6: twenty those last season when he went seven innings against

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Speaker 6: the Phillies U because that was at home.

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Speaker 5: I believe. Yeah, good gut, just good all around guy.

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Speaker 6: He's kind of like reminds me of like Brent Suitor

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Speaker 6: a little bit, where you know he's not gonna miss bats,

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Speaker 6: but it's like you said, it's that reliance on that

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Speaker 6: cutter and Suitor. I think Milwaukee is another one of

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Speaker 6: those guys who tries to compensate for the lack of

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Speaker 6: velocity by kind of cutting and spinning the ball to

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Speaker 6: get outs. And you know, he he is what he

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Speaker 6: is what he is. He's he's one of those kind

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Speaker 6: of well below league average fastball throwers in an era

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Speaker 6: predicated on velocity. And it's fun to see those guys nowadays.

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Speaker 6: They are anomalies. That's you know, he's almost like watching

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Speaker 6: Wade Miley nowadays, who have for the entirety of his career,

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Speaker 6: has never thrown hard but has managed to be effective

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Speaker 6: at several different points because of his ability to move

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Speaker 6: and cut sync you know, do what you gotta do,

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Speaker 6: spin it.

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Speaker 5: He you know, he's just fun to watch.

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Speaker 6: And hopefully if he does in fact not clear way

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Speaker 6: over soth Llagy catches on elsewhere. I'd like to see

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Speaker 6: him pitch in the big leagues again. I think he,

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Speaker 6: you know, with what he did last year, and despite

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Speaker 6: the fact that he has gotten a bit lucky Eli,

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Speaker 6: as you noted, through FIP and the fact that he

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Speaker 6: just doesn't miss bats, I think he's earned a shot

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Speaker 6: to you know, eat some innings for any team going forward,

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Speaker 6: you know, probably a team that wouldn't be competing because

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Speaker 6: he's he's not a foundational piece, but he's somebody who

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Speaker 6: did enough to at least.

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Speaker 5: Merit a little bit more playing time.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and with that, that's gonna be this episode of Physiology,

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Speaker 7: just some really quick hits Jacob and Maia, Joy Wendel

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Speaker 7: and some on Dan Castano.

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Speaker 4: Hopefully with more news comes by and we'll give you

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Speaker 4: a brand new episode, longer hour version of Physiology. But

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Speaker 4: for this episode of Physiology for Daniel myself or Eli

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Speaker 4: for Lewis, we thank you guys for listening and always

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Speaker 4: go Fish