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Speaker 1: first wish everybody a happy Thanksgiving. Hope everybody's enjoying time

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Speaker 1: with their families. Coming up on this episode of Marlins,

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Speaker 1: starting Pitcher he's here to stay, another one to consider

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Speaker 1: me joining me special guest. We have arm Leyden, co

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Speaker 1: of love. Hey, arm how you doing.

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Speaker 2: Good man? I'm glad that we could do this episode

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Speaker 2: after some good news, so I appreciate you having me on.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited to talk to some Marlins baseball.

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Speaker 1: Breaking news out Monday morning, Sandy al contra five year extension,

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Speaker 1: as first reported by Craig Mish. We got confirmation from

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Speaker 1: John Hayman, five years north of fifty five million dollars guaranteed.

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Speaker 1: The news breaking at ten AM. I put an article

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's no way around I guess there's

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Speaker 2: This is great for baseball, I think, because enough of

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Speaker 2: and I think it's good that Sandy gets some guaranteed

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Speaker 1: Bit to get everybody on the same page. Three years

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Speaker 1: on my own calculations for anybody that cares, the solution

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought the injury history. I did look

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Speaker 1: out there in the league that historically has amazing, amazing

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Speaker 1: players that turned out to be amazing Major leaguers, and

434
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Speaker 1: he that he got even some hardware at the end

435
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 1: as the co hitter of the Year in the league.

436
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 1: He he especially showed out in the Fall Stars Game

437
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Speaker 1: and in the Championship game, and it so if you

438
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Speaker 1: really want to go into that, you know, those were

439
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Speaker 1: the games where he actually did face like the hand

440
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Speaker 1: pick better pitching prospects. You would say, then, like during

441
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Speaker 1: the regular season games, guys that, for whatever it's worth,

442
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,160
Speaker 1: you know, he was even better in those particular settings

443
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Speaker 1: against highly higher ranked pitching prospects than he was during

444
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Speaker 1: the course of their season. Like, it was just awesome,

445
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 1: awesome production for a guy that for most of the

446
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,119
Speaker 1: double A season we had, we were just scratching our

447
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 1: heads about, you know, what happened to him, And so

448
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 1: we were talking about this, you know, before the show,

449
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Speaker 1: just to clarify your stance that you do seem like

450
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Speaker 1: pretty intrigued by like what he did, even if it's

451
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Speaker 1: a small sample, all the caveats that apply that this

452
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Speaker 1: maybe meant a little something in terms of him being

453
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Speaker 1: the guy that we thought he was.

454
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Speaker 2: It absolutely did to me, because there's a few things

455
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Speaker 2: I look for when I when I see something like this, right,

456
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Speaker 2: and number one is is there a tangible adjustment? And

457
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Speaker 2: you know, Baseball America of course went into a little

458
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Speaker 2: bit of a conversation with him in a full breakdown

459
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Speaker 2: on the adjustments that he made with his ling. But

460
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 2: even before that article, I think we all saw the

461
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,640
Speaker 2: adjustments that he made They were pretty tangible, and that's

462
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 2: always a great key, right, Like, Okay, he's sitting better

463
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Speaker 2: now and he made a change. Maybe that change is working.

464
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Speaker 2: Correlation isn't always causation, though, So you want to corroborate

465
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Speaker 2: that with maybe some batted ball data. Well, first of

466
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 2: all the eye test, he was driving balls to dead

467
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Speaker 2: center and the other way with authority that we hadn't

468
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,439
Speaker 2: really seen him do as much. Then you look at

469
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Speaker 2: the batted ball data. Four of the five hardest hit

470
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Speaker 2: balls of the entire calendar year for JJ Budet came

471
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Speaker 2: in the Arizona Fall League. To me, yes, maybe the

472
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Speaker 2: pitching is not quite as good that he was seeing

473
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Speaker 2: day in and day out. He still saw several very

474
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Speaker 2: good pitchers as you mentioned, and performed against those guys.

475
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Speaker 2: But it doesn't matter who you're facing. When you're impacting

476
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Speaker 2: the ball with more authority, that's a you thing. You know,

477
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Speaker 2: he's competing against himself at that point, and I think

478
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Speaker 2: we saw how those swing changes really helped him hit

479
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 2: the ball with more authority. You're staying in his backside

480
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 2: a lot more as lower half was more involved. He

481
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Speaker 2: always had that orthodox swing that I think we always

482
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 2: questioned a little bit, especially over at Vanderbilt, where all

483
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,959
Speaker 2: of that movement it's a lot to time up. It's

484
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Speaker 2: a lot to have your lower half and your torso

485
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Speaker 2: timed up with all of that movement that he had.

486
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Speaker 2: Notice that that's all gone now and he's timing things

487
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Speaker 2: up so much better. I don't think it's a coincidence

488
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Speaker 2: that this is all happening. The bat at ball data

489
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Speaker 2: backs it up. I'm you know, I think a lot

490
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Speaker 2: has shifted for me. I wish he had found these

491
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Speaker 2: changes a little bit earlier so we had a larger

492
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Speaker 2: sample size. But you know, if he comes out next

493
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Speaker 2: year and really struggles, then we'll kind of shift our

494
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Speaker 2: perspective here. But I'm expecting him to come out and

495
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Speaker 2: continue to do what he was doing because I watched

496
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 2: at bats against specific pitching prospects that with the kind

497
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Speaker 2: of stuff that he struggled against during the year, and

498
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Speaker 2: he hit those guys, and you know, I really do

499
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Speaker 2: think this is for real and this is a huge,

500
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Speaker 2: huge development for the Marlins. I mean, I don't think

501
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Speaker 2: we can emphasize enough how important it would be for

502
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Speaker 2: JJ Bouday to actually be looking more like the JJ

503
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Speaker 2: Bouday that we thought he could be. The question was

504
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Speaker 2: never the bats of ball skills. It was how how

505
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Speaker 2: he was impacting the baseball and how he was picking

506
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Speaker 2: up breaking balls and controlling his body. And he's finally

507
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Speaker 2: doing all that. So I am definitely encouraged.

508
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Speaker 1: The highest exit V low number that I saw from

509
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Speaker 1: him was like one eleven. Did you did you actually

510
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Speaker 1: get a number? Then it was even higher than that

511
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Speaker 1: when he was out in the Fall League.

512
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So he he hit over one ten on multiple occasions,

513
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Speaker 2: which he never did other than balls that went straight

514
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Speaker 2: into the ground during during the Double A season. So

515
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Speaker 2: I think one eleven. There might have been a one

516
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Speaker 2: to twelve in there, if I'm not mistaken, But he

517
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Speaker 2: was never even really consistently doing that. So so to

518
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Speaker 2: have those kind of exit v lows coming out, I

519
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Speaker 2: mean that that's got to be something that has the

520
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Speaker 2: Marlins really excited. They cited bat at ball data as

521
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Speaker 2: somewhat something that had them more encouraged still with him,

522
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Speaker 2: and you know, I think we kind of saw why

523
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Speaker 2: why they felt that way. I mean, he hit one

524
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Speaker 2: eleven I think three different times, which he he almost

525
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Speaker 2: never did, maybe only did once during the duration of

526
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Speaker 2: the double A season. So I mean when you see

527
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 2: stuff like that, there's a lot to be buying there

528
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Speaker 2: from what he's kind of tried to sell us.

529
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Speaker 1: Yeah, for people that aren't familiar, that's pretty above average

530
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Speaker 1: by major league standards. There are a lot of good

531
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Speaker 1: major league hitters that never hit. I think Brian Anderson

532
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Speaker 1: is a guy that, like Max is out right around

533
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Speaker 1: one to eleven, and like he's some way that we

534
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 1: were entering this year when he was a healthy guy.

535
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Speaker 1: We were saying he has the ability to hit twenty

536
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: five or thirty if he really reaches his ceiling, And like,

537
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 1: all of a sudden that we feel like that's back

538
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: on the table with today. If he's able to like

539
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: sustain these gains. Expectation is probably that he starts next

540
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: year in trim La, that the Marlins go about, you know,

541
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Speaker 1: their off season shopping planning to have somebody in front

542
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 1: of him on the depth chart, somebody that's been there

543
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: and done that before. But yeah, I mean, all of

544
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 1: a sudden, there's once again you're kind of feeling it's

545
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 1: just feeling like the way that we were at this

546
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: time a year ago. You know, because coming out of

547
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 1: Spring training. It was seemed like a foregone conclusion that

548
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Speaker 1: he would be in the majors twenty twenty one, and

549
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 1: the fact that that didn't happen shows you that a

550
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: lot had to go wrong, but for him to at

551
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: least you don't be the guy that, yeah, we thought

552
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: he was not that long ago. That's yeah, that's that's encouraging.

553
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: You had him when you and Ethan put out your

554
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: Marlins top ten. I think he had the number seven

555
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 1: prospect in the system. And that's kind of where I

556
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: had him too, you know, where I think there are

557
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 1: some guys here that were still more excited about on

558
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 1: the pitching side, and then you go on the real

559
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: young side with like Khalil Watson and Jose Salas. But

560
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: then the day is kind of like, is right there.

561
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: He's still a guy. He's still a guy that like matters,

562
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Speaker 1: and I guess you hope that he I won't say

563
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 1: you hope, but it'd be intriguing to see, like exactly

564
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: how much his stock changed this fall to the point

565
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Speaker 1: where is he somebody that would be involved in actual

566
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Speaker 1: a big trade if if the Marlins do go after

567
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: if they get their big bat that way, you know,

568
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 1: if he turns out to be like the guy that

569
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: could be the centerpiece of a huge deal. But we'll see.

570
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: I imagine they're not in any hurry to like get

571
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: rid of him, that they want to give him a

572
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Speaker 1: chance to be the guy that they drafted at the

573
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Speaker 1: top of the draft just a couple of years ago.

574
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and I think, you know, we talk about the

575
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 2: struggles and everything, he's still one of the few guys

576
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,719
Speaker 2: that has the above average hit tool and you got

577
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Speaker 2: to hold onto those guys in an organization that is

578
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 2: very scarce in that regard with those types of prospects. Yeah,

579
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Speaker 2: you know, I struggle of like, if it's Budet or

580
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,360
Speaker 2: Verdick at that point, you know, you've got a difficult

581
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,439
Speaker 2: decision to make because I think Burdick has, you know,

582
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 2: the better year last year, obviously, has a lot of

583
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 2: great tools, potential to play center, and it'd be a

584
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 2: difficult decision. I think it would really be in the

585
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 2: eyes of the beholder. If there's a team that really

586
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 2: values Boudet as a top one hundred guy, then you know,

587
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 2: maybe you have to part with him. But if there's

588
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 2: a team that really prioritizes a Verdick, then then you

589
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 2: got to do it that way too. I'm of the

590
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 2: belief I don't want to trade any of those guys.

591
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 2: I don't want to trade Pablo. I don't really want

592
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 2: to trade anybody. But unfortunately, you got to give to get,

593
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 2: and this team needs to get. They need to make

594
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 2: some changes, and yeah, I think everything's got to be

595
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 2: on the table except for our young tall king Yuri Perez.

596
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 2: He's untouchable and that's it.

597
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Speaker 1: We love Harry so much. Ridiculous year that he's coming

598
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: off of as well.

599
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Speaker 2: When I saw him Jupiter, man, it looks like he

600
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 2: was on stilts. Like he wasn't even pitching that day.

601
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 2: I just watched him bring out some balls to the

602
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 2: umpire and I was just like, oh my goodness, that

603
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 2: guy looks like he's on stilts. Just just incredible.

604
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: Maybe he's still growing, man, I mean he's still only eighteen.

605
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: It's still biologically possible because when they signed him, I

606
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: think they listed him at six', five and then entering this,

607
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: year he was like six.' EIGHT but i think most

608
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: people that saw him this year would just swear that

609
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: he's even taller than six, eight NOW so i think That,

610
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:56,959
Speaker 1: is yeah RIDICULOUS and i can't wait to h it's

611
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: he's still eighteen, years old eight.

612
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Speaker 2: Ten years old and pitched well IN high a and

613
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Speaker 2: Has command for such a tall dude you think could be,

614
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 2: All awkward. It's incredible he's gonna be one of those

615
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 2: GUYS that i think quickly he, already is but LIKE

616
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 2: quickly a sends to the top of the top prospect

617
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 2: was top thirty by the middle of. NEXT year i really.

618
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Speaker 1: Think, so, Yeah absolutely i'm with you. On that one

619
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Speaker 1: other subject we wanted to touch on this pod is

620
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Speaker 1: news From. Last FRIDAY when i dug through the history

621
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Speaker 1: on this Through the marlins, THROUGHOUT it i was able

622
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: to see publicly at least that every year on this

623
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: deadline to, promote guys to select contracts of guys to

624
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: protect them From the rule, five draft every single year

625
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: dating back at least, twelve Years the marlins have. Added

626
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: somebody they've had somebody in their farm system that they

627
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: felt is worth rewarding and worth protecting From the. Rule

628
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: five that deadline just Passed, this friday and there was

629
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: really only one guy that people thought were pretty likely to,

630
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: be protected and that was, Your Guy, griffin conine who

631
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: for most of, last year leading the minor leagues and

632
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: home runs his first full year In the. Marlins organization

633
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: consensus top thirty prospects In the marlins organization with as we've,

634
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: talked about like across, fish, strips platforms just the extremely

635
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: rare power that he has to all fields and the

636
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: discipline that, he has, you know with those, traits alone forget,

637
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: you know any biases towards his pedigree and being a

638
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: conine that he was somebody that was worth a forty

639
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: man spot over some of, the guys some of the

640
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: suspects that currently have forty man spots in. THE organization

641
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: i wanted to just give you the floor to just

642
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: vent a little bit about the decision to leave him

643
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: off the, forty man to leave him unprotected for the,

644
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: rule five because it seemed to catch you by a

645
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: surprise and to annoy you a. Little bit and you're

646
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: not the. ONLY one a lot of other people had

647
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: the exact same reaction.

648
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 2: To you, You know it's funny because it caught like

649
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 2: it did catch you, BY surprise i guess by, my

650
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 2: REACTION but i was also fully. Expecting it it was

651
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 2: just ALSO once i saw it happen it was, Just,

652
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 2: like wow they really. Did that they really didn't protect.

653
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 2: Him there if they had one of the roster crunches

654
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 2: that Like the rays had or some of these other

655
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 2: teams that are loaded with talent on their, Forty man i'd. Understand,

656
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 2: It Right like griffin could not have finished Worse IN.

657
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 2: DOUBLE a, i mean he really just hit. A WALL

658
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 2: and i see people talking like about the forty seven

659
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 2: percent k Rate IN. Double a why would anybody take

660
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 2: a chance? On him he struck out twenty two times

661
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 2: in his final thirty three, at bats like he fully

662
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 2: just just was was lost down, the stretch and he

663
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 2: told me he was just like at, that point it was.

664
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 2: JUST mental i just wanted the season. To end and

665
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 2: then the season got cut, short anyways and it was like.

666
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 2: A blessing but up until, that point the k rate

667
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 2: was more in the mid to high, thirties range which

668
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 2: we know like if you can get that a bit

669
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 2: lower into the, mid thirties you can sustain big league

670
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 2: success if you have prolific Power ie joey gall and

671
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 2: some other players that are able to do it because

672
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 2: they hit home run. So frequently there's no player in

673
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 2: the minor leagues that had a higher home run to fly,

674
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 2: ball eight meaning the percentage of balls you hit in

675
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 2: the air leaving. The yard and that's the stuff. Can't

676
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 2: teach we talk about. Exit vulos griffin put up over

677
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 2: a one to Sixteen, exitbul oh That Was fernando tatisa's

678
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 2: top exitbulo. Last year with the major league base balls

679
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 2: Right IN, double a they're using minor league balls don't

680
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 2: come off. As HARD so i look at it like

681
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 2: This and, i'm saying most likely a team's not going

682
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 2: To take griffin In the roll. FIVE draft i think

683
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 2: it's more likely that it doesn't happen than it does

684
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 2: happen because of his, you know bad finish to, the

685
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 2: year but he also has prolific power to. All fields

686
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 2: like you said that you. Can't teach, he actually you

687
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 2: know it made some great, improvements defensively, you know isn't

688
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 2: LIMITED to dh or anything. Like that can play left,

689
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 2: or right and he has discipline like, you said and

690
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 2: a lot of the intangibles that you, look for and,

691
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 2: you know the big league pedigree of. HIS father i

692
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 2: wouldn't be shocked if a team took a shot right

693
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 2: like there's a non zero chance that a team takes

694
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 2: a shot and that's enough for me to protect Him

695
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 2: if I'm, The marlins Because the marlins had more than

696
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 2: enough ways to clear that. Roster spot they, could have,

697
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 2: you KNOW finally Df. Eighty sandiez they didn't. Do it

698
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 2: they could have Finally, Dfa'd, alfaro brinson any of the

699
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 2: four catchers that, They have Jerar and carnassions on the.

700
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: Forty man and, you know if we're talking for comparing,

701
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 2: Prospects here gerrar IS a dh only at this point

702
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 2: maybe first base didn't hit for nearly the amount of

703
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 2: Power that. Griffin hit four had injury issues and swings.

704
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 2: And missus and this is not to Tear. Down gerar,

705
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 2: You know i'm hoping it works out, For him BUT

706
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 2: when i look at it from, That component, i'm like

707
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 2: you're using the forty man Spot for gerar But. Not

708
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 2: griffin their similar profiles and more.

709
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 1: Production there Because very i'm glad you brought, him Up

710
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: because gerar was blassed on the forty men at this

711
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 1: exact time, last year and the similarities are pretty interesting

712
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 1: because he had he didn't have any experience ABOVE high

713
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 1: a at, that time and you knew that he was

714
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: a guy that he was not going to be selected

715
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: the same way because even though he did the same,

716
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: standout skills that he wasn't ready and that he wasn't

717
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: easy to like maneuver onto an active roster the, entire

718
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: year and, yet, they yeah they. Protected him so it

719
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 1: did seem like inconsistent that they made the same Move

720
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: with Gerar and kindacale last year and Then left. Conine off,

721
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: You know conine arguably arguably had the, better year and

722
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 1: this arguably has more potential to be like if he hits,

723
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: his ceiling that the ceiling could be even higher. Than, Increasing.

724
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 2: YEAH and i think that's that's the, craziest, Part right

725
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 2: you have a left handed, hitting outfielder, you know who

726
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 2: could play either corner versus, you know a guy that's

727
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 2: probably gonna get RELEGATED to dh and was injured and

728
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 2: didn't nearly put up. The NUMBERS so i thought that

729
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 2: was a really interesting. Point TOO but i think the

730
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 2: most upsetting part to me, was like you have a

731
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 2: non zero chance of losing a, you know your most,

732
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 2: powerful prospect, you know in terms of just, power potential

733
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 2: and this guy has forty home run power potential if

734
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 2: he doesn't. Tail off at the end he hits forty in.

735
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 2: THE minors i just don't know how you can justify

736
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 2: holding on to still like given how long we've been talking, About,

737
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 2: THIS like i just can't believe we're still talking, about

738
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 2: IT and i just can't Believe that Diaz And lewis

739
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 2: brinton and those guys still holding onto the roster spots

740
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 2: is still an issue that's affecting the team even when

741
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,720
Speaker 2: games aren't going on. Like that that's where it's almost

742
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 2: just getting bizarre, to me, you know just to be

743
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 2: fully transparent at. That point, and again nothing against, those

744
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 2: guys it's just they need a change. THE scenery i

745
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 2: think it's clearer there they're not going to Succeed, in

746
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 2: miami and it's not clear for sure that some of

747
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 2: these other guys that didn't protect aren't going. To succeed

748
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 2: What About bryson, BRIGMAN too, i mean that's another GUY

749
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 2: that i would rather see him have that roster spot

750
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 2: than than some of the guys that currently. Have it

751
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 2: it just doesn't quite make sense. To me you, almost

752
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 2: wonder like what they Have against Bryce. AND brigman i

753
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 2: feel bad for, the GUY and i hope he gets

754
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 2: picked UP and i hope he gets a great. Opportunity

755
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 2: elsewhere it'll, be upsetting but, you know for, HIS sake,

756
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 2: i mean what else does that guy have to do

757
00:36:58,239 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 2: besides improve on?

758
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: His defense reach a Point where i'm kind of just

759
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 1: resigned to the idea that for, whatever reason they do

760
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: have something against HIM that I just i never felt

761
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 1: like there was any hope of him, being protected even

762
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,720
Speaker 1: though when you when you think, about it he probably

763
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: should have been one considering the other in field depth

764
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: that you have on the forty men right now is not.

765
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: Any good and it's not even on the position player side.

766
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: AS well, i mean there were a couple of relief

767
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: only pitchers on the forty men, as Well Like, sean

768
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: gunther who would about nine era when he got called

769
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: out to, the majors and he's a guy that would

770
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: probably clear waivers and stay in. The Organization paul campbell,

771
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: as well, you know only just he didn't show a

772
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: whole lot and He wasn't he didn't even pitch much,

773
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: this year and they had, The options they had a lot,

774
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: of options even though you know it was, technically full

775
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: it was full with a handful of guys that didn't

776
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: don't really need.

777
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 2: To be there.

778
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: Right now you're probably gonna get rid of anyway if

779
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 1: you make any sort of real upgrades to the roster this,

780
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: off season which you expect. To make, you know they

781
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: keep saying they're they're going to make a handful of

782
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: real additions through the pen and to, the offense like

783
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: eventually those guys are going to be squeezed. Off anyway

784
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: so it's it's a little perplexing. For, sure.

785
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, you KNOW and i think it says it says a,

786
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 2: little bit, you know because we were it was pretty

787
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 2: clear where they were At. With brigman by not calling

788
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 2: him up for the duration of the year and then

789
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 2: you're not, PROTECTING him i think kind of just shows

790
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 2: you where the team values. A player, i Mean the

791
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 2: rule five draft is an opportunity to see where the

792
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 2: team values. A PLAYER and i think it's clear with

793
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 2: this organization that they've always valued, their guys you, know

794
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 2: MORE and i think that's, evident again you know here

795
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 2: With the rule five is they're going to value their

796
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 2: guys more and that's what. HAPPENED here, i mean their

797
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 2: guys still have the forty men, roster spot and, you

798
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 2: know that's SOMETHING that i think we've become pretty pretty

799
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 2: used to and.

800
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: Them too at, THIS point i had a feeling that

801
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: this segment was going to turn, pretty negative which IS

802
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: why i had this final segment plan that was the opposite,

803
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: of it a little bit fun to. End this we

804
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: led this off talking About the, sandy extension and one

805
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: of the themes of him last year is that he

806
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: had the best year of his career and yet, you

807
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,280
Speaker 1: know they lost both of, his games just a really

808
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: ridiculous lack of run support around him That he you

809
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: would think that he would inspire his teammates to maybe

810
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: elevate their game a little bit when he's on, the

811
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: mound and for, some reason they kind of went the

812
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 1: opposite and things did not. Go WELL what i DID

813
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 1: is i looked at a lot of his best outings

814
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: from this, past Year and i'm going to show you

815
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: so we get on the same page. WITH this i

816
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,720
Speaker 1: LOOKED at i sorted them by, game SCORE and i

817
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: just looked at a lot of his best outings from

818
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: last year, right HERE and i wanted you to guess

819
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: based on. His performances we're going to go one at a,

820
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 1: time here whether he got, the win whether he got

821
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: the lost or whether he got a. No decision all,

822
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: these games game score goes basically zero to. One hundred

823
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: for the, most part average is right. Around fifty all

824
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: these games are at least a seventy like all these are,

825
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: great games pitching deep into, the game not allowing, any

826
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 1: runs kind of dominating in like all. These Games and

827
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: i've eight. OF them i picked out eight of, them

828
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: here and we're gonna go one at. A TIME but

829
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: i wanted to start with that one at. The bottom

830
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: So it's may twenty fifth Against. The phillies he goes,

831
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 1: eight innings hell has only two hits in. Eight innings

832
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: it's a, couple runs and it's. Super efficient to ninety

833
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: three pitches and eight innings Against. The phillies he's a really.

834
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: Awesome game from looking at these dates, in lines do

835
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: you may remember you know some? OF them i. Don't

836
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 1: know do you remember this? Particular game does this one

837
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 1: stick out?

838
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 2: TO you i remember One in philly, MORE so i

839
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 2: don't KNOW if i remember so.

840
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: This, one yeah this one was Definitely. In miami most

841
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: of these were, home games but this One. In miami

842
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: so do you want to take your guess as to?

843
00:40:56,080 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: Eight innings, two hits, two runs, one walk, four strikeouts Runs.

844
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 2: A phillies, two runs that's got to be. An owl

845
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 2: two runs has to be an owl.

846
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 1: And perfect so you are one to zero so far

847
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 1: Against the phillies. That game they lost two to nothing

848
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 1: shut out Against the phillies despite his, awesome performance one,

849
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,439
Speaker 1: to oh so far as, we go we're gonna go,

850
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,760
Speaker 1: straight up one at. A time Skipping to august. Twenty

851
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: seconds this is a road game Against the red, seven innings. Eleven,

852
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: strikeouts yeah, four hits, two runs, two walks one hundred

853
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: and eleven pitches in this one to get through Seven

854
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 1: against cincinnati pretty late in. The season another game THAT

855
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: because i guess it was later in, the year there's

856
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: a better chance you may remember. This one but take.

857
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 2: Your Guess, IN cincinnati, I honestly i'm trying to remember.

858
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 2: THE outcome i don't KNOW if i remember the, individual

859
00:41:56,120 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 2: game but TWO runs i don't think, Tomorrowin scored i'm

860
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 2: gonna go.

861
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: Loss again and Even though sandy, is winless you're undefeated two.

862
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: To zero correct, Correct answer so far off to a.

863
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,879
Speaker 1: Good start but those were the, easy, ones right because

864
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: those are the ones where he allowed multiple runs all these,

865
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: other games we're gonna go do six more where he

866
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: allowed one run. Or less, June sixteenth This one's this one's.

867
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 1: A giveaway so you're off to a, strong start and

868
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: this one's kind of. A giveaway legendary game on the

869
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,720
Speaker 1: road Against. The cardinals he pitches eight in the, third

870
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: innings allows zero earned runs but one, unearned run, six hits,

871
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 1: one walk. Seven k's this Is on. June sixteenth you

872
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: probably remember. This one you get, the, loss right that's,

873
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: another one a complete game loss where he led zero.

874
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 2: Earned runs that should be coret that should be against,

875
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 2: the law Like the marlins should have had like the.

876
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 2: Whole team the offense should have just been in time

877
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 2: out for. That one no earned runs and you get

878
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 2: the loss and the complete. Game effort THAT one i

879
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 2: REMEMBER because i was that was to me Like. Rock

880
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 2: bottom that. ONE hurt i Hurt four sandy on, that

881
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 2: one oh.

882
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 4: And Two, On molina sandy delivers and a ground ball

883
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 4: past the Dive of morero and that is going to.

884
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,439
Speaker 4: Do it molina brings Home.

885
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: Gold, schmid, yeah man. It was it was. The FIRST

886
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: if i remember, this crankly it was The first. Marlin

887
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: ever so like be in that situation to have a

888
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: complete game in zero earned runs and somehow get. The

889
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: loss everything had to align for. Him perfectly so you're

890
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: three to oh so, Far out we're going to skip

891
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: to the top and then go. On down So here

892
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 1: september eighth Against, the mets this one he sent a

893
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 1: career high with, fourteen strikeouts, nine innings one earned run on,

894
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,720
Speaker 1: four hits, one walk and fourteen strikeouts Against. The Mets

895
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 1: were there were several pitches at the end of this

896
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: GAME where i think he HIT one o two on

897
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 1: the on like it was the best vlow that that

898
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: you've ever like that you ever see from a, starting

899
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 1: pitcher including The de grams of the world and The.

900
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: Peak strawsberry this was. Pretty special uh what about? This

901
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: one was that one a? No decision that was a

902
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: no decision? Extra, innings uh they, They won they won.

903
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: The game eventually they pitched pushed across a second run

904
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: Against the mets to to take, that one, and uh

905
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: for so for all, his trouble at least they won.

906
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: The game but that was a, legendary performance, you know

907
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: one of the better individual pitching Performances in. MARLIN'S history

908
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 1: i don't think that's, like hyperbole.

909
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 2: THAT dominance i don't think that's crazy. AT all i

910
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 2: don't think that's crazy. At all that's easily one of

911
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 2: the most incredible Performances in. Marlon's history, No.

912
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: Decision YEAH so i made this one too easy because

913
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: because you're getting all, these right.

914
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 2: That was a little bit that one was a little

915
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 2: bit of. A gas, I thought i remember. That, correctly yeah.

916
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 1: Let's Go to. August first this one Also in miami Against.

917
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 1: The yankees so this is right after a, trade deadline seven,

918
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,760
Speaker 1: shutout Endings he loa's, two hits, one Walk ten k's

919
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 1: ninety nine pitches Against. The yankees that.

920
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 2: Was a, no DECISION and i think they won, that,

921
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 2: One right that was a.

922
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,439
Speaker 1: No decision they lost. That game they lost the game three.

923
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: TO one i didn't even write, this DOWN but I

924
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: think i do remember pretty Vividly That zach pop was

925
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 1: not so great in relief in. This game that, for

926
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: whatever this was a GAME where I remember mattingly just

927
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: making some weird decisions about who he brought out of,

928
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 1: the pen like in the eighth and ninth inning instead

929
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: of going to his. Usual suspects so they ended up

930
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: losing that game because they got swept in that whole

931
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: series Against. The yankees coming out of. The deadline you

932
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 1: can't do much more than what. He did three base

933
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: runners and seven innings and heart to.

934
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 2: Step up step up Against. The yankees he just seemed

935
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 2: to really like pitching Against. The yankees whether it Was

936
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 2: In new york or, at home you look great.

937
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: Both, times yeah there was that game of course last

938
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: year when the clinching the, playoff berth that was Against

939
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 1: the Yankees And. Yankee stadium he was fired up for.

940
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: That one we got three more, on here Going to

941
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 1: june twenty seconds Against The blue Jays. In miami, eight innings,

942
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: one run, five hits, one walk only. Three k's so

943
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: you lied a whole lot on his defense with, freakish

944
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: efficiency eighty six pitches in. Eight innings that one was,

945
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: a loss right. THAT one i finally got you on

946
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: one because that one was a. No decision i'm a

947
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: little bit. More credit they did lose, The game they

948
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: lost a game two, to one and, that so but

949
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 1: that gave just, one Run and marlin scored one run

950
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: when he was on, The mounds so they got him

951
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: off the hook by giving him. Just enough he was

952
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: in the game, to IT and, I yeah I think

953
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: i remember, in particular, you know just that decision to

954
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: take him out just because of how efficient.

955
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 2: He, was yeah with His pit.

956
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 1: I'll have to, double Check but i'm pretty sure they

957
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 1: add to pinch hit for him in the bottom of

958
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: the eighth inning of, that one and they ended up,

959
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: regretting it losing right after that To The. Blue jays

960
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: so you're five and one on this just. A couple

961
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: that's a lot better THAN than.

962
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 2: I imagined i'll. Take it.

963
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: But this is probably one of the easiest ones because

964
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,240
Speaker 1: This is april first Against, the rays this is, opening

965
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 1: day and it was still when you're getting stretched out

966
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 1: at start of, the year they don't let you go

967
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: as deep into the game as pitchers would. Ordinarily go

968
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 1: so they pulled him after, six innings eighty, three pitches only,

969
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: two hits, two walks. Seven, k's yeah and you just,

970
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: said it no decision in that one should have looked,

971
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 1: more carefully because that one's. A giveaway that was.

972
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 2: That was also a tone center for.

973
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: The, season, yeah yeah so That was people may think

974
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: that Was the anthony bass first. Screw up that Was

975
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: A yimmi. Garcia issue in that first game because it

976
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 1: wasn't a. Safe situation it was it was a. Tie

977
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: game it was Him and glass now like going zero,

978
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,919
Speaker 1: to zero so it was a it was a non,

979
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: save situation and they went To to yimmy instead Of

980
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: to bass who was, the closer and It was. Yimmy,

981
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: dead yeah that.

982
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 2: Was crazy IN that i forgot. About that he unveiled. The,

983
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 2: slider yeah, oh yeah that was that.

984
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: Was gross and we have one final one on Here

985
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 1: from august seventeenth Against. The braves this one another One.

986
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: In miami eight innings Against. The braves they were pretty

987
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: hot at this time. Of year, you know they hit

988
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: on all their trade. Deadline acquisitions. Pretty sure He faced

989
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: duvall in, that game And so laire And probably jock.

990
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 1: Or whatever, eight innings, one run, five hits, one walk,

991
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: seven k's one hundred and five pitches Against. The braves do.

992
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 2: You remember what?

993
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: His line what what his, decision, was win a loss or?

994
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 2: No decision was that the no decision where they gave

995
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 2: up a five, run lead that was.

996
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 1: A loss oh they go they lose, Two nothing so

997
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 1: he got only one run allowed in his time in,

998
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: the game but that was. Too much that was. Too

999
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: much i'll the double check who the opposing. Pitcher was

1000
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 1: THAT combined i think was it was definitely a combined

1001
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 1: shoutout By the braves in that one that was outstanding

1002
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: six and two out of those. Eight selections and as,

1003
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: YOU noticed i picked all games that he did not

1004
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: get the.

1005
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 2: Win in all.

1006
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: Those games allowing two runs are less almost all those, pitching,

1007
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: seven eight, nine INNINGS and i was able to find

1008
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 1: all those elite games where he did not get. The

1009
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: win that's something we're trying to leave in twenty, twenty,

1010
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: One right you just, bring out you bring in a

1011
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 1: few new guys trade and, free agency you get incremental

1012
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 1: Gains From, Hayesius sanchez brian De, La Cruz lewis brinson

1013
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 1: is finally going to. Break out, of, course.

1014
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 2: YES yeah i think. IT'S coming i still have, the

1015
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 2: shirt so it has. To Happen, AND jazz I, mean jazz,

1016
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 2: you know faced a little bit too and being injured

1017
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 2: and all all of those things missing the time. HE

1018
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 2: missed I think jazz can, you know take it to

1019
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 2: another level. As well and the, CATCHING position i think

1020
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 2: people like don't realize even if they get an EIGHTY

1021
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 2: five wrc plus from their. Catching, position right if they

1022
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 2: get an eighty fifth percent or not eighty, fifth percentile

1023
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,399
Speaker 2: but like eighty cents on the dollar performance from, their

1024
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 2: catcher it'll still be exponentially better than what they. Were

1025
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 2: getting so if they get an above average, offensive catcher,

1026
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 2: to me that's like getting a superstar compared to what

1027
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 2: they were. Getting before so that will move the needle a.

1028
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 2: Lot TOO and i think also just having some more,

1029
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 2: bench DEPTH because i think we saw how big the

1030
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,879
Speaker 2: drop off was when when guys we, were Out When

1031
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 2: brian anderson, was out when some of these other guys,

1032
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 2: were out you were putting some lineups TOGETHER that i

1033
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 2: think would have lost two out of three to The.

1034
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 1: Dream bowles we mentioned this, top already but this was

1035
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: for this kind of investment that. They make it's rare

1036
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 1: that you feel so comfortable. About It but sandy is

1037
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: is that rare type, of guy rare type of pitcher

1038
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,879
Speaker 1: where there are so few that you feel that this

1039
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: is money very, well spent and so a rare day

1040
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: to be just unequivocally pleased by the way That the marlins.

1041
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 2: Are operating refreshing would be THE word i. WOULD use

1042
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 2: i mean it was really great to See and i'm

1043
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 2: happy that they, did this and, you, know again hopefully

1044
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 2: it's a sign of more things, to come but definitely the,

1045
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 2: right GESTURE and i think fans are given again a

1046
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 2: little bit of hope AGAIN because i think when if

1047
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 2: these talks, fell through it would have been really hard

1048
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 2: to sell to sell fans on what's going. On HERE but,

1049
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 2: i think, you know they can start to say, here,

1050
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,879
Speaker 2: like hey we've Helped. Develop sandy now he locked, him

1051
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 2: up and you know we're just, getting started, remember that

1052
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 2: so let's help her a little bit further. Along here,

1053
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 2: BUT yeah, i mean this is definitely one of the

1054
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 2: Better feelings i've had in a while for. This team

1055
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 2: so they've got the main building block and now let's

1056
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 2: see what kind of complimentary pieces they. Can Get and

1057
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 2: i'm sure we'll be talking about it, again Soon so

1058
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 2: i'm looking forward.

1059
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: To, that yeah a long off, season ahead another week

1060
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 1: and a half until the presumed. Block outcomes we're gonna

1061
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,399
Speaker 1: enjoy every second, of it and even when times, are

1062
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: down YOU and i will be in touch for sure

1063
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 1: out as MUCH as i can on the other side on,

1064
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 1: just baseball supporting what we do. Over there so as

1065
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 1: we're recording some new merch. DROPT today i was gonna

1066
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: get a new hoodie from you guys. As well with

1067
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 1: me and you under normal circumstances being up Here In,

1068
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: new york we need to we need to, wrap up

1069
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: and you guys are ready. For it it's it's really

1070
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: awesome what you guys have built in a short Time On,

1071
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: just baseball with, the articles with the social with. The

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Speaker 1: podcasting you guys are. Killing it and That includes, marlins

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Speaker 1: coverage but includes all, thirty teams it includes Outside Of

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Speaker 1: Major league baseball. As Well arm laden he helped start.

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Speaker 1: It All and i'm really proud of what you're doing.

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Speaker 2: Over there thank. You man it means, a lot especially,

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Speaker 2: from you and learned a lot from my Time At

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Speaker 2: fish stripes and writing under you editorially and all of that.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff so high praise, from you and really excited

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Speaker 2: to keep the ball rolling and excited to have the

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Speaker 2: home and home and have your back on on our

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Speaker 2: end to talk a little bit About the marlins when,

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Speaker 2: they go get hopefully a couple of impact bats and

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Speaker 2: get your thoughts.

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Speaker 1: On that people listening, to this we appreciate. The support

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Speaker 1: if you Subscribe to. Fish strips wherever you get your

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Speaker 1: pods and wherever you get, this pod you should be

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Speaker 1: able to get outside the Box with jeff. Co nine

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Speaker 1: you guys are still going to do some pods over

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Speaker 1: the off Season. With jeff let's.

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Speaker 2: A scale We Have jason stark coming on, next Week

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Speaker 2: which i'm really. Excited for Jeff and stark go back

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Speaker 2: To their baltimore Days where stark was covering baseball, out

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Speaker 2: There obviously jeff playing out, there Too so i'm really

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Speaker 2: excited to just have those two and talk a little

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Speaker 2: bit of. LABOR dispute i think both of them have

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Speaker 2: a little bit of experience in that too from ninety

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Speaker 2: four and it should be a lot. Of fun so

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Speaker 2: a lot more guests coming up to in. THE future

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Speaker 2: i know we're working On book shambi, as Well because

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Speaker 2: jeff stayed at his Apartment In new york when he

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Speaker 2: was traded To. The mets, Of course boo goes back

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Speaker 2: to calling games For the marlins radio way BACK before

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Speaker 2: espn snatched, him AWAY and i remember my dad always

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Speaker 2: telling me that we had the best BROADCASTER and espn stole.

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Speaker 2: Them away but looking forward to those two start coming,

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Speaker 2: Up first, so yeah very excited to talk to Talk To,

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Speaker 2: jason stark.

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Speaker 1: Awesome with The arm Laid And eli susman here in.

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Speaker 1: The pod we'll back to you, every week presumably Throughout

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Speaker 1: this austin Still got we're gonna keep you going Here.

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Speaker 1: On fish you're gonna get creative as well with the

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Speaker 1: rest of the staff and with more special guests like arm.

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Speaker 1: As well so we appreciate. The support, as Always.

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Speaker 2: Go fish