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Speaker 1: Welcome guys, it's so great to be here. Good as always,
Speaker 1: growing into the future with you, Mark, I want to
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Speaker 1: well in an abundance of rain. How have you survived
Speaker 1: this era? Well, I'll tell you what, a lot of
Speaker 1: my cactuses have not survived this rain. And if you
Speaker 1: told me last year it was going to rain this,
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Speaker 1: the NFL podcast here all right from the Chris Westling
Speaker 1: podcast studio. It's Around the NFL. I am Mark Sessler,
Speaker 1: joined by some heroes, Patrick Claybon, Colleen Wolf, satellite heroes.
Speaker 1: I think that satellite heroes have landed. These are the
Speaker 1: real heroes. We are so excited about this convo. It's
Speaker 1: never been before. It's never been done. It is essentially
Speaker 1: a combo podcast, combo score Agami, Dan and Greg both
Speaker 1: on vacation. Hope they're having a great time. We have
Speaker 1: no idea what how this will go. Um. It is
Speaker 1: odd to me that I am in theory hosting a
Speaker 1: show with two people who have hosted roughly about a
Speaker 1: thousand shows on it. It makes no sense. It is
Speaker 1: a very strange thing. But we we did get a
Speaker 1: little bit of news today, which was unlike our last show,
Speaker 1: which we just deep six news. We'll get to some
Speaker 1: of that. We have a special segment coming up. I
Speaker 1: think that's also never been done. It's called NFL pen Pals.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, also never been done before. Getting a
Speaker 1: rundown of the show in such detailed fashion, so ahead
Speaker 1: of time. I almost drove off the road when I
Speaker 1: saw it. Yeah, Mark Marks underselling his ability as a
Speaker 1: host and a producer, a schedule maker, that this has
Speaker 1: all come together like this, You've got it. Two minutes in,
Speaker 1: you got it. I have extreme OCD, especially so a
Speaker 1: day like yesterday, which is a sort of an off
Speaker 1: day to some degree, it's like I don't do anything,
Speaker 1: um well until we get the details out. So it
Speaker 1: was really just selfish. Our brains are very aligned, I think,
Speaker 1: so very much locked in. So when I saw it,
Speaker 1: I could not. I mean I threw myself a party
Speaker 1: and then I never gave you guys my answers. But
Speaker 1: at least we also were going to do well because
Speaker 1: we're also a bit machiavellian um with the stage within set.
Speaker 1: Today we were going to do a My Guy draft
Speaker 1: edition minus all these six week eight week you know,
Speaker 1: office business about it getting approved by someone. We're gonna
Speaker 1: each pick someone from this draft, and it's simply our
Speaker 1: guy from going forward, rise or fall with him. So
Speaker 1: we'll see how this goes. That's great to have you
Speaker 1: picked someone calling. I finally have narrowed down my list.
Speaker 1: I have quite a few, but I have now one
Speaker 1: number one guy and it happened like I do know,
Speaker 1: I do know that you did, and you pick someone
Speaker 1: who has there are multiple people with the same name
Speaker 1: in the draft who you picked. It's it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a kind too, like the two Lamar Jacksons that
Speaker 1: we have in the league right now. It would have
Speaker 1: really been something for us to not talk about it
Speaker 1: beforehand and then out of seven hundred and forty three
Speaker 1: participants pick the same guy. It would have been great.
Speaker 1: That would be our way. Um, I don't know, gravedigger. Hey, yeah,
Speaker 1: well I'll not come on. I'm not letting you get
Speaker 1: away with I think you just do that on purpose
Speaker 1: at this point. Sometimes it's like I know it's gonna
Speaker 1: take me a second to get to the drop, so
Speaker 1: I start talking. So there's not just like silence. Oh
Speaker 1: that's good. Well you've had like seventy or eighty reps
Speaker 1: on this, but I understand. Um, it's great to have
Speaker 1: you with us as well. We're gonna need you a
Speaker 1: little bit today to chime in. He has a great
Speaker 1: shawnack on today. It's a it's a nice yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a very nice sweater. I've never heard that term. I
Speaker 1: always just called it a cardigan, but thank you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. So we get some let's do some news.
Speaker 1: How about that Smith Schuster Kisiki. Do you think you've
Speaker 1: done enough to improve the offense for this season? We'll see.
Speaker 1: I don't know about you, guys, but I feel like
Speaker 1: we've been doing We've done almost fifteen hundred episodes of
Speaker 1: this show, and I think for the first like fourteen hundred,
Speaker 1: the Patriots just sat on their little chair up above
Speaker 1: all of us, telling us how football teams are run,
Speaker 1: how organizations. You know, It's like Bill Belichick is used
Speaker 1: in like common business tactics because of the way that
Speaker 1: he orchestrated one Super Bowl championship after the next. It
Speaker 1: feels like a little bit of chaos is starting to
Speaker 1: dip into all of it. And there are these creeping reports.
Speaker 1: But a couple things happened here since our last show.
Speaker 1: Tom Curran, friend of the show from NBC Sports, went
Speaker 1: on air basically and talked about the fact that Belichick
Speaker 1: has been essentially agitated with Mac Jones for seeking outside
Speaker 1: help last season, that if he's annoyed now and for
Speaker 1: that and sort of all the Mac Jones, you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of times in primetime, the meltdowns, and now
Speaker 1: there is a report from Pro Football Talks Mike Florio
Speaker 1: that the Patriots are actually looking to shop Mac Jones
Speaker 1: that this, I guess is Bill Belichick behind the scenes
Speaker 1: talking to a couple of different teams, the Raiders, the Texans,
Speaker 1: the Bucks, the Commanders. Colleen, how do you take all
Speaker 1: of this? Where are you with this? So? Um? All right, Well,
Speaker 1: as soon as you were talking about the Patriots being
Speaker 1: in their mighty chair above everyone else, like you know,
Speaker 1: they're they've been in the power chair which you are
Speaker 1: in today and filling in nicely like that. We haven't
Speaker 1: really addressed the power chair and the dynamics. You're in
Speaker 1: a totally different seat, so the logistics are all different
Speaker 1: at this point. I think the more that we mentioned
Speaker 1: that I'm doing well at it, it starts to feel
Speaker 1: like that's probably not the case. But I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: ride with it. Let's see, there's the modesty, another chance
Speaker 1: to succeed in a spot, in a power move where
Speaker 1: the power is the grace that you put into it, Mark,
Speaker 1: and it's just it's going some more graceful Okay. So anyway, Okay,
Speaker 1: so yes, there was this report and Tom Curran what
Speaker 1: he was on w EI and talked about how mac
Speaker 1: Jones obviously was not happy with the coaching situation last
Speaker 1: year and so he sought outside help and going outside
Speaker 1: of the Patriots organization is not something that is celebrated,
Speaker 1: I would imagine by Bill Belichick, and it is something
Speaker 1: that is seen as disloyal. And I would think judging
Speaker 1: by Bill Belichick and every single SoundBite we get from him,
Speaker 1: that is something that is going to annoy him to
Speaker 1: an extreme level. And I wonder if now that we're
Speaker 1: hearing these reports that mac Jones might be shopped around,
Speaker 1: is it all stemming from that? Is he kind of
Speaker 1: just letting it faster and now he just decided that
Speaker 1: this is it. And that was the breaking point for them,
Speaker 1: because even yesterday in Lancer Alines mock draft, Lance had
Speaker 1: the Patriots taking Anthony Richardson, which would be an extreme pairing.
Speaker 1: And I think we'll get to Lance's mock draft coming
Speaker 1: up a little bit in the show, but that was
Speaker 1: the first time that I kind of thought about mac
Speaker 1: Jones really being out. If you're starting to get some
Speaker 1: rumors like this and mock drafts or mocking certain quarterbacks
Speaker 1: there because at that point, they're getting a guy that
Speaker 1: is extremely inexperienced with the most experienced head coach in
Speaker 1: the NFL arguably right now, and you would think that
Speaker 1: you could get like a Lamar Jackson, maybe a known commodity,
Speaker 1: but instead going here with Anthony Richardson would be a
Speaker 1: choice for them, And this would be really interesting if
Speaker 1: they if they really did send mac Jones away. I think,
Speaker 1: like there's so many different ways to say. Of course,
Speaker 1: Tom Kerran's report makes perfect sense, Like Bill Belichick's out
Speaker 1: there and watched Alex Guerrero do all of these things
Speaker 1: with his quarterback for decades and there was clear frustrate
Speaker 1: shouldn't at that point, and Bill, like as he indicated
Speaker 1: by the way he responds to questions, he's not like
Speaker 1: secretive about voicing his frustration. It makes perfect sense. But
Speaker 1: the thing is, we watched this Patriots tree. Familiarity is
Speaker 1: seemingly all they care about, Like Josh McDaniels is signing
Speaker 1: the same guys all the time, like Bill Belichick is
Speaker 1: looking for the same coaches to come back despite the
Speaker 1: lack of success that they've had in other spots, and
Speaker 1: all the turmoil and other things there. I just wonder
Speaker 1: if Belichick's conversations about mac Jones are like literally every
Speaker 1: other conversation that happens at the combine and it's like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, what do you think of mac oh? And
Speaker 1: then they don't get the offers that they want and
Speaker 1: it all just goes away. But like it's to me,
Speaker 1: like them being frustrated about being historically bad on offense
Speaker 1: and like not necessarily knowing who was calling plays or
Speaker 1: like what the actual system was. That that makes perfect
Speaker 1: sense to me. But like looking at Florial's report and Mike,
Speaker 1: you know, he likes to hedge sometimes and it's like
Speaker 1: a source close to the situation tells us that he's
Speaker 1: been shopped, but he can't tell who all of the
Speaker 1: teams are. It's like, well, why why did you stop
Speaker 1: talking to the source at that point? Like shouldn't you
Speaker 1: have a few more? I just wonder like who the
Speaker 1: source is too, because two of the teams mentioned, the
Speaker 1: Raiders and Texans, are like bathed in Expatriots employees. So
Speaker 1: or is it like usually there's this cone of silence
Speaker 1: around anything the Patriots do. It's like suddenly they traded
Speaker 1: a big player or acquired someone you don't hear a
Speaker 1: lot of whispers around New England in general, like is
Speaker 1: this the rare time where like New England's floating it.
Speaker 1: I mean, that seems atypical to me. I don't know
Speaker 1: why Belichick would do that, But someone's talking to someone
Speaker 1: about this, and I'm just intrigued and like, who the sources?
Speaker 1: I perfect I do wonder that would be interesting if
Speaker 1: Belichick himself was the source. And after a year very
Speaker 1: down for the Patriots in a changing division with a
Speaker 1: sort of uncharted territory for Bill Belichick to be in,
Speaker 1: maybe now he's playing all of these roles that he
Speaker 1: wouldn't have before. Yeah, he's like, hey, guys, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily talk to you guys, so let me
Speaker 1: call up Mike Florio provo. Yeah, becomes a little surreal.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think in sort of an adjoining scenario,
Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer, there were whispers that Brian Hoyer, after being
Speaker 1: such a you know, a Patriots sort of top of
Speaker 1: the student, head of the class type of guy who
Speaker 1: get I think was had four different stints in New
Speaker 1: England or something, he's now signed with the Raiders that
Speaker 1: it seems like Brian Hoyer kind of ran into the
Speaker 1: into the final stages with Bill Belichick's patients as well.
Speaker 1: I mean it's like, I think the Hoyer last year
Speaker 1: sort of sided maybe with mac Jones a little bit
Speaker 1: on a super frustrating situation because Matt Jones, to me,
Speaker 1: it's like, no matter what happens, he got to complete
Speaker 1: Mulligan for next season. But I still look at them
Speaker 1: and think he's they've got the worst quarterback in the
Speaker 1: AFC East. Yeah, and Hoyer in that report, Current said
Speaker 1: that Hoyer anticipated being back in New England, and Hoyer
Speaker 1: was vocal about the situation that mac Jones was in
Speaker 1: every single week last year. So maybe that is the
Speaker 1: reason why they didn't end up bringing him back, And
Speaker 1: maybe Bailey Zappy out a little bit of something to
Speaker 1: do with that. There was that little bit of there
Speaker 1: was that moment, right remember when even the crowd and
Speaker 1: Gillette was like, Yeah, Bailey's zappy, this is it. How
Speaker 1: could I forget they were into him? And then minutes
Speaker 1: later it's like, oh God, that was a mistake. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're very sorry that all this happened. But I think
Speaker 1: that little bit, despite how loyal Bill and that organization
Speaker 1: are to people who continue to come back. It's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: the time has come, Brian. It's not really there, It's
Speaker 1: never really been there. But we're going to roll Bailey now,
Speaker 1: all right. In other news, the Ravens reportedly have made
Speaker 1: an offer to Odell Beckham. Now I do feel like
Speaker 1: I know where these reports are coming from. I mean,
Speaker 1: because if this is strange, it's also I think if
Speaker 1: there's any other team out there that probably his interest
Speaker 1: in Odell. We know it's the Jets, But what are
Speaker 1: the Ravens doing? How would Odell Beckham or any receiver
Speaker 1: make a decision to go to Baltimore right now when
Speaker 1: you don't know what's going on with Lamar Jackson? But
Speaker 1: is it the Ravens maybe trying to say, hey, Lamar,
Speaker 1: like we're trying to find these guys that could elevate you,
Speaker 1: help you out. What do you think, Patrick? I think
Speaker 1: the best thing to do if you wanted Lamar, if
Speaker 1: you want Lamar to be interested, would be to come
Speaker 1: up from three years, one hundred and thirty three million
Speaker 1: dollars like that. That's the clear example if they wanted
Speaker 1: to do that. My contention has been for a long
Speaker 1: time that the Ravens aren't interested in paying Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: to be the quarterback, and Lamar has gone public in
Speaker 1: saying that that's the way he viewsed things. I think
Speaker 1: this may just be looking at the talent on the roster,
Speaker 1: looking at what they need, the fact that they've they've
Speaker 1: gone in a new direction, Todd Monkin is here. It's like,
Speaker 1: let's just try to get some talent. We'll put an
Speaker 1: offer out there, kind of try to see where where
Speaker 1: O'Dell stands. And I think it's a good sign. I
Speaker 1: would like it more if they had paid the quarterback
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago or literally right now. But
Speaker 1: it makes sense, like we saw what O'Dell could do
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. Clearly the injury hurts, but he was
Speaker 1: on his way to potentially being a Super Bowl MVP.
Speaker 1: I think it's worth making an offer standardly. And this
Speaker 1: could also be the Ravens preparing for potentially a rookie
Speaker 1: quarterback coming in and bringing a new weapon to set
Speaker 1: up said rookie quarterback for success. If they do end
Speaker 1: up figuring out a deal for Lamar, whether they trade
Speaker 1: the Cults for Lamar and you know, jump up and
Speaker 1: I don't know. There's a there's a bunch of different
Speaker 1: ways that they could do it, but I could see
Speaker 1: that making some sense of bringing in someone who's inexperienced
Speaker 1: and making sure they have some playmakers around them, like
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham has been shopping his services for like four years.
Speaker 1: At this point, someone somewhere is going to want to
Speaker 1: do it. The Rams have had showed interest that that
Speaker 1: makes the least amount of sense to me. I don't
Speaker 1: think that one's happening all right. From our our own
Speaker 1: little headquarters. Here a little news story from Daniel Jeremiah.
Speaker 1: He didn't report this like on his podcast though. He
Speaker 1: talked about the fact that the Titans to keep an
Speaker 1: eye on Tennessee as a team that might want to
Speaker 1: jump up to the NU three spot. And I think
Speaker 1: that you know, when you're doing these mock drafts. We
Speaker 1: had DJ on a week ago and he talked about
Speaker 1: these things are crafted by hearing certain things, and Tennessee
Speaker 1: the idea they're just going to stay on pat with
Speaker 1: what they have. Maybe not the case. Gravedigger, do you
Speaker 1: want to comment on this first? Yes, So, I think
Speaker 1: that there's definitely validity to the idea that Titans are
Speaker 1: looking to trade up to three. A couple of months ago,
Speaker 1: maybe not that long ago, there were reports that they
Speaker 1: were in the mix to trade up to one with Chicago,
Speaker 1: and I don't know how like how much you can take.
Speaker 1: There's random Twitter people saying that. But then the Bears
Speaker 1: did move the pick, and somebody who reported that the
Speaker 1: two teams were the Titans and the Panthers, and then
Speaker 1: three days later the Panthers traded for the pick. So
Speaker 1: I do think there's some truth to this. And you
Speaker 1: look at who the Titans have been meeting and pro
Speaker 1: days they've been visiting. They have spent time with all
Speaker 1: five of these top quarterback prospects, significant amounts of time,
Speaker 1: and to me, that means that they are definitely looking
Speaker 1: into it. It It doesn't mean they're definitely gonna do it,
Speaker 1: but I think it's definitely a possibility. And you know,
Speaker 1: DJ said that he's been told by people around the
Speaker 1: league to watch for the Titans. Right, So this is
Speaker 1: what other teams trying to come up with their own
Speaker 1: mock drafts and figure out how this night's gonna play out,
Speaker 1: thinking like Tennessee could be the team that comes up
Speaker 1: to three. I don't know, if that's dot connecting because
Speaker 1: Tannehill's getting older and they might need a quarterback of
Speaker 1: the future and they have met with all these quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: or if there's more substantial rumor to it. But it's interesting.
Speaker 1: Tannehill's on the last year of his contract, so if
Speaker 1: who knows if this is Arizona sending out these messages
Speaker 1: for people to jump up. But if there is a
Speaker 1: quarterback that the Titans love, and let's say, I mean,
Speaker 1: who knows what happens with the Texans at two, But
Speaker 1: if Damiko Ryans is like in love with a defensive
Speaker 1: player and okay with one of the not two quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: not Bryce Young, not CJ. Stroud, like, maybe that's when
Speaker 1: the Titans jump up and take whoever they have there.
Speaker 1: And you know, even if it is a Will levis
Speaker 1: Or and Anthony Richardson, guys that need a little bit
Speaker 1: more time, if you have Ryan Tannehill still on one year,
Speaker 1: you can sit and do the traditional weight. And I know, obviously,
Speaker 1: if you're trading up to get a quarterback and it's
Speaker 1: very very high pick, people are gonna want to see
Speaker 1: him right away. But also these guys, we know they're raw,
Speaker 1: we know they need time, and that could be a
Speaker 1: nice situation. But you have to be comfortable with the
Speaker 1: third quarterback in the draft, and I think so unless
Speaker 1: Stroud drops for some crazy reason. And three, it gets
Speaker 1: you ahead of Indianapolis. You know Indianapolis would like a
Speaker 1: quarterback in some means, and so it gives you that power,
Speaker 1: despite how you feel about Richardson or levis Um. You
Speaker 1: get to dictate the remainder of the draft for everybody
Speaker 1: who's interested in one of those first round quarterbacks, and
Speaker 1: you can and you can make a choice, and it
Speaker 1: makes it makes perfect sense for Arizona to not just
Speaker 1: have conversations with Tennessee, but literally everybody in the in
Speaker 1: the rest of the league, because there's just no value
Speaker 1: there for them in a quarterback. They have Kyler. Kyler's
Speaker 1: going to be back. It's not likely they're going to
Speaker 1: draft somebody, you know, in the top three for five
Speaker 1: months of quarterback play. So they should be having these
Speaker 1: discussions with everybody. And it just makes sense, Like you go,
Speaker 1: you go down through. Atlanta says they're fine, the Bears
Speaker 1: are clearly fine at quarterback. The Raiders want a quarterback.
Speaker 1: Does Detroit make a decision? Does Seattle look towards the future,
Speaker 1: like if you can get ahead of all those teams,
Speaker 1: then then you're in a better position than you were before.
Speaker 1: And that does bring us to Lance zere Len's mock draft,
Speaker 1: which I kind of I love Lance because he's the
Speaker 1: guy that, um, there is a bit of a code
Speaker 1: to be you have to wear a tie now on
Speaker 1: NFL network versus what well that was out there. I mean,
Speaker 1: at least I've I got solid in an email. We're
Speaker 1: going we're going to tie on path. Wait, this is new,
Speaker 1: there's been a new memo so out I just we
Speaker 1: previously had no tie and now we have ties. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Lance sort of continues to shoot the rules. He
Speaker 1: doesn't seem to care about these that that rule at all. Um.
Speaker 1: So he's in my wheelhouse on that front. But the
Speaker 1: mock draft, it has to be one of the more
Speaker 1: chaotic mock drafts we've seen because he has Bryce Young
Speaker 1: going to Carolina. That's not that crazy, although CJ. Stroud
Speaker 1: has been whispered about it a little more heavily there.
Speaker 1: But then at number two and the land Syrian is
Speaker 1: from Houston. He's down there on radio every day. He
Speaker 1: knows a lot of people. He has the Texans going
Speaker 1: Tyree Wilson edge from Texas Tech and just skipping quarterback
Speaker 1: at that position altogether. Right, So he has Tyree first
Speaker 1: of all, like not having a quarterback there it seems
Speaker 1: wild to me. And Bryce Young going over CJ. Stroud
Speaker 1: is super interesting going to Carolina, but then to have
Speaker 1: Tyree Wilson over U Will Anderson Junior is also a
Speaker 1: choice that a lot of people would disagree on because
Speaker 1: they think that Will Anderson Junior is the better edge
Speaker 1: player and the better defender. And like, there was also
Speaker 1: so many crazy trades in his draft too. It was
Speaker 1: a fun draft, though it was not a basic draft.
Speaker 1: No at number four, because that's to talk about what
Speaker 1: happens at number four. Suddenly you're staring at the Baltimore
Speaker 1: Ravens who send Lamar Jackson to the Cults and end result,
Speaker 1: Baltimore gets CJ. Stroud. There's a lot happening in this
Speaker 1: mock draft. And Lance said two days before this draft
Speaker 1: came out, like, hey, people are going to be mad
Speaker 1: at this mock draft, but he's there's so many possible
Speaker 1: permutations and this is one way it could play out
Speaker 1: because he has the Texans coming back and getting Will
Speaker 1: Levis and if they've looked at CJ. Stroud and said, well,
Speaker 1: the premiums not necessarily there. We would like Bryce. The
Speaker 1: Panthers want Bryce, That's what they traded up for. If
Speaker 1: they if they evaluate Will Levis and say, hey, Bobby,
Speaker 1: you've seen all these quarterbacks have success within this Shanahan tree, Like,
Speaker 1: could will let us do that? If they feel that
Speaker 1: way and they can get the value, I've clearly like
Speaker 1: to me, and I'm not some draft nick. I've watched
Speaker 1: Will Anderson's productions and seem as a freshman, that's a
Speaker 1: bit of a stretch to me to say like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: we would like traits over production when the production has
Speaker 1: been like that for so long. But we've seen we
Speaker 1: saw Cleveland Farrell go on the top. I mean these
Speaker 1: things like when Trayvon Walker went over Aidan Hutchinson last
Speaker 1: year that you know, that buzz really ramped up as
Speaker 1: we got closer and closer to the draft. And Tyree
Speaker 1: Wilson has a lot of you know, he's athletically similar
Speaker 1: to Trayvon Walker and Will Anderson production wise is pretty
Speaker 1: similar to Aiden Hutchinson. And we saw, you know, the
Speaker 1: Jags decide to take the athletic freak over the productive player.
Speaker 1: And that's Trent Balky's thing too. He always loves like
Speaker 1: to take the gamble on a guy that's more athletic.
Speaker 1: Another thing I thought that was interesting and we sort
Speaker 1: of touched on it before with Lance's mock is Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson being traded to Indianapolis and then thinking what that
Speaker 1: fit would be Like it's kind of a fun game
Speaker 1: that we've all played over and over and over again,
Speaker 1: so it's becoming less fun. But what Lamar Jackson would
Speaker 1: look like in certain offenses. And I did find this
Speaker 1: one quite interesting because Shane Steiken as the head coach,
Speaker 1: had dealt with Jalen Hurtz for in Philadelphia, same style
Speaker 1: of quarterback. So just to see Shane Steiken and Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson work together, and you have Jonathan Taylor, A lot
Speaker 1: of your key pieces there are in their prime, So
Speaker 1: you need to get someone now if you want to
Speaker 1: make it work for Indianapolis. And you gotta be if
Speaker 1: you're Frank Reich, I mean, you're gonna have your own quarterback.
Speaker 1: But you're like, I just did this the last five
Speaker 1: years in Indianapolis with a bunch of Hammond Eggers, and
Speaker 1: now I leave and the new guy gets Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1: Sounds a little absurd, Yeah it is, and he should,
Speaker 1: but there was so much. It was a whole lot
Speaker 1: of clarity and honesty. And Frank Reich has been in
Speaker 1: the league for so long, and as a news conference
Speaker 1: and he says, well, you know the question what went wrong?
Speaker 1: And he's like, I don't have a problem answering that. Like,
Speaker 1: we were able to run the ball, we had great
Speaker 1: line play, and we couldn't get it done. And now
Speaker 1: here comes a guy who's instantly going to improve the
Speaker 1: run game purely by being on the field, Like Lamar
Speaker 1: doesn't have to do anything for the run game to
Speaker 1: get better. He could just turn and hand the ball
Speaker 1: off and it can be improved. And I think whoever
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator is at Lamar Jackson's next job, it's
Speaker 1: not gonna be Greg Roman. Like, there's going to be differences.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna have a three D feel safe. Yeah,
Speaker 1: twenty pound guys not gonna be running dig routes anymore.
Speaker 1: So it's clearly going to look different. And I just
Speaker 1: think get guys open, Like, get guys open and snap
Speaker 1: the ball to Lamar, and I think everything is going
Speaker 1: to be fine, because otherwise, what is their choice at quarterback?
Speaker 1: What are they gonna do because they're gonna miss out
Speaker 1: on the top guys in the draft. They really haven't
Speaker 1: done anything in free agency. They're coming off a season
Speaker 1: where they won four games, So this is the only
Speaker 1: way that they can really have a solution to the problem.
Speaker 1: Seems like the obvious choice. Did you see the report
Speaker 1: from the Athletic today or sorry, Wednesday morning? Jim erse
Speaker 1: wants to draft a quarterback. Colts owner quote deep down
Speaker 1: prefers to find the next quarterback in the draft. Sure,
Speaker 1: of course, everybody, every owner, every GM, every coach would
Speaker 1: love a rookie quarterback because that rookie quarterback money allows
Speaker 1: you to build a team. Of course, they all want
Speaker 1: to find the gem in the class. But how are
Speaker 1: they going to get there? Yeah, it's it's great to
Speaker 1: want things, um, but Lamar Jackson is twenty six years old.
Speaker 1: Like it's it's not You could have Lamar and see
Speaker 1: if it will be your quarterback for the next thirteen
Speaker 1: years if you wanted to. Yeah, I mean I would
Speaker 1: be outside of Lamar, I'd be a little concern about
Speaker 1: Chris Ballard selecting another veteran quarterback. At this point, I
Speaker 1: feel like that's happened a lot fair all right, I Colleen,
Speaker 1: we have to do this to you at this point,
Speaker 1: I feel like this used to be a fun exercise,
Speaker 1: but we're going to dip into some odds and ends.
Speaker 1: Would you mind doing the latest incarnation of what's become
Speaker 1: a psychotic did he? I don't know if I have
Speaker 1: another key to give you, guys, but we'll try. Okay,
Speaker 1: odds and ends? Odds and ends? Hey, everybody tell your
Speaker 1: friends it's odds and ends. I think you nailed it perfect.
Speaker 1: The aura of that song is has turned dark. All right,
Speaker 1: let's go with the other song. There we go from
Speaker 1: pell raiser Tom Pellicero dal and Cook is making excellent
Speaker 1: progress in his recovery. Patrick, do you care? I do
Speaker 1: care because I think that was a good football player.
Speaker 1: I want running backs to be healthy. How about this
Speaker 1: out of Denver? Colleen, Tim Patrick on Steve Smith's Cut
Speaker 1: to It podcast, Everyone has a show. At this point,
Speaker 1: he's clear to do everything post acl tear. Yes, I
Speaker 1: love it. I was at training camp last year. I'm
Speaker 1: a huge Tim Patrick guy. I was so upset with
Speaker 1: the acl tear that was supposed to be his breakout
Speaker 1: season last year. This will be his season all right,
Speaker 1: and out of Ohio, Joe Burrow now tops reigning champ
Speaker 1: Fiona the Hippo as the voted in best Cincinnatian Patrick,
Speaker 1: Do you care? I do care because there's so many
Speaker 1: incredible people, Silent film actors, Theodore ba Is from Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: Andy Blockenburton, a dancer and choreographer Ron Bohmer. There's so
Speaker 1: many great people from Cincinnati. I'm definitely not reading this
Speaker 1: off of Wikipedia. I'm like, how what is happening? I mean,
Speaker 1: and Nan also, a human has lost to an animal
Speaker 1: five years in a row. That hippo had was on
Speaker 1: a five year winning street. If you were an animal,
Speaker 1: what would you be a bird? I think? I mean,
Speaker 1: that sounds very cliche, but it's the first thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, there's so many different choices. Yeah, fly, maybe
Speaker 1: out of here. My initials are called, so it makes
Speaker 1: sense that mine mine are mess So that also makes sense.
Speaker 1: How about this last little bit, because you know, I
Speaker 1: like rub A Browns fan and John Elway tortured my
Speaker 1: youth um and then it came back and brought the
Speaker 1: Broncos new super Bowls and all this other business. He
Speaker 1: is officially out um of business with the Broncos. His
Speaker 1: contract is run up, and I don't know what else
Speaker 1: we can do other than to bid farewell with another
Speaker 1: one of our songs that we've created on this show.
Speaker 1: This one's for John, This one's for John, This one's
Speaker 1: for John. This songs for John. This swan's for John,
Speaker 1: and that swan's for John. So this swans for John.
Speaker 1: All right? That once for John. Good to think of it.
Speaker 1: This once for John, and also that once John perfect Sidney.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's from the great Let's say, though, why
Speaker 1: if he hasn't you know, is going away press conference?
Speaker 1: If that occurs, why is that not the intro and
Speaker 1: outro music it should be? Is he gonna are they
Speaker 1: gonna give him one a press? I mean, I feel
Speaker 1: like he's had seven or five, seventy five of those,
Speaker 1: but walk out of music for it. I'm gonna start
Speaker 1: playing that at my house. That was really soothing. That
Speaker 1: was really nice. It was really nice. All right, Now
Speaker 1: we're going to take a quick break and then we
Speaker 1: will come back. All right. That was a really incredible
Speaker 1: break we just took. So much occurred during it. When
Speaker 1: you take these breaks, you really get a chance to
Speaker 1: go backstage, hang out. You know. I don't think people
Speaker 1: realize that just the yeah healed truly an organic human
Speaker 1: moment for us. Uh. Now we are going to do
Speaker 1: something called NFL pen pals, and the conce is essentially
Speaker 1: and I know a lot of times we do these segments, Colleen,
Speaker 1: and we leave you off a cliff where you don't
Speaker 1: you come in like, what is the second about? This
Speaker 1: felt pretty straightforward. I thought this is good. I can't
Speaker 1: mess this up. Yeah, I didn't get too many follow
Speaker 1: up questions from you. You basically take the role of
Speaker 1: an NFL player character GM figure and just like I
Speaker 1: don't know if you ever had it. Did you ever
Speaker 1: have a pen pal? Patrick? I did too. My handwriting
Speaker 1: is catastrophically bad. So no, it never worked out in
Speaker 1: the letter thing. Now that's why, because you had bad handwriting,
Speaker 1: nobody would be able to read it. But instant messenger,
Speaker 1: I was your guy. What was your name? What was
Speaker 1: your screen name? It was pac du fifty two. It
Speaker 1: was my basketball number, and pack do as if I
Speaker 1: blocked a shot because I was you know thirteen. I
Speaker 1: love that Mine was Malibu four twenty, but this was
Speaker 1: post as a child. Did you actually have like a
Speaker 1: written pen pal? I feel I didn't really high. That's
Speaker 1: a job. Everyone should know this. Sometimes when I'm listening,
Speaker 1: I honestly don't know if it's a job or not.
Speaker 1: I had an actual pen pal that I met on
Speaker 1: a train who what was? Could you describe the person?
Speaker 1: I think her name was Julie uh And we messaged
Speaker 1: and wrote physical letters to each other for many years,
Speaker 1: and she was like really cool and really sweet, and
Speaker 1: I like really looked up to her. And then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden she didn't answer and she was gone,
Speaker 1: and I lost her forever. She's just like a friend
Speaker 1: you've never like you knew her last name and stuff.
Speaker 1: You weren't able to relocate her online. I feel like
Speaker 1: next move. I just can't remember a lot of details
Speaker 1: about her now, And I think in the moment I
Speaker 1: felt like sort of upset that I had been broken
Speaker 1: up with by her for some reason, she had ghosted me.
Speaker 1: It was the first time I had Julie. Julie, if
Speaker 1: you can hear us, I'm sorry, Julie. Whatever I did,
Speaker 1: I feel like AOL. You could get heartbroken on AOL too,
Speaker 1: Oh easily? Yeah? Did you have a screen name? Mark? I?
Speaker 1: You know, I skipped the AOL thing for I don't
Speaker 1: know how it just like my dad worked for this
Speaker 1: side AOL company called Prodigy, which I think so. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I wrote to a few people on Prodigy here and there.
Speaker 1: I don't not to the level of Julie on a train,
Speaker 1: but there were some individuals. That's the case here. In
Speaker 1: this case, it is sort of like you get a
Speaker 1: chance to be someone to write the letter where you're
Speaker 1: just confessional. You know, we're dropping you in mid relationship,
Speaker 1: and uh, why don't we start patrick with you? Okay? Um?
Speaker 1: Mine is from Mac Jones to Matt Patricia. Hey, Matt,
Speaker 1: I just wanted to reach out to you in light
Speaker 1: of recent speculation regarding my relationship with Coach Belichick and
Speaker 1: to let you know that there's absolutely no ill will
Speaker 1: between me and coach. It's you that I hate. When
Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler pulled me aside last year and said he
Speaker 1: got benched in the Super Bowl because you two had beef,
Speaker 1: I thought to myself, No, that's preposterous. No one would
Speaker 1: undermine themselves on the world's biggest stage, only to see
Speaker 1: Nick Foles throw for three hundred and seventy three yards
Speaker 1: and three scores against you. But clearly I underestimated you.
Speaker 1: In Tuscaloosa, I watched Jalen and Tuba go on the
Speaker 1: field before me and I returned to my ancestral home
Speaker 1: of Jacksonville, Florida, and had a vision I would never
Speaker 1: be benched again, only to see you run Bailey Zappy
Speaker 1: out there on a mission to run your catastrophic offense.
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised by the reports that I was frustrated
Speaker 1: after regressing in almost every statistical category. They also could
Speaker 1: have reported that I have ten fingers and ten toes
Speaker 1: and there's fifty million nuclear tied pairs in my DNA.
Speaker 1: What I am surprised by is the commitment to you
Speaker 1: by Coach. He was just asked if you would be
Speaker 1: back with the team and said he wasn't sure. Here's
Speaker 1: one thing I'm sure of, Coach, if you're back, be
Speaker 1: ready to fight me. This isn't a metaphor. I will
Speaker 1: physically strike you, render you unconscious, and remove you from
Speaker 1: the premises as if you were a Detroit Beat reporter
Speaker 1: who ran a file of your dress code. You limited
Speaker 1: my capacity to throw touchdowns, but I promise I can
Speaker 1: throw these hands hatefully. Mac so a threat? So a
Speaker 1: threat letter A promise? Yeah, I don't know. It feels
Speaker 1: like that was sort of a one time letters from
Speaker 1: a magazine, ransom note Mac Migo Julie after this, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you just may not respond. That's fair, that's fair, pel
Speaker 1: cathartic because I think we've all felt like frustrated for
Speaker 1: Mac Jones and when he's going nuts, like coming off
Speaker 1: the field onto the sideline, it's like, I feel this
Speaker 1: guy like like, what's he allowed to do? What's he
Speaker 1: allowed to say? We need to bring back pen pals,
Speaker 1: like right, I have a I have a friend lives
Speaker 1: in San Diego and he'll just send us postcards from
Speaker 1: random spots all the time, and I love it. I
Speaker 1: love getting physical. Male. I'm so old. I am an
Speaker 1: eighty year old in this body. That friend sounds slightly
Speaker 1: so I feel like we need more details. Tino, have
Speaker 1: you met Danino? You probably have? You guys have met him? Okay,
Speaker 1: Dantino sending postcards? Yes, okay, that was good. I like
Speaker 1: that one. Oh, thank you good start. Do you want
Speaker 1: to yes, all right, here we go. So this letter
Speaker 1: is to Dan Quinn, Cowboys defensive coordinator from Mike McCarthy. Okay,
Speaker 1: here we go. Hey Dan, DQ, mister que essential, what's good?
Speaker 1: Mmc here? Just hitting you up in a super CASU way.
Speaker 1: I know we'll see each other in the office soon.
Speaker 1: But don't you think we need a wide receiver. We
Speaker 1: don't have enough offense. It's looking a little suss and
Speaker 1: Jerry just keeps showing up at my front door with
Speaker 1: photos of Tom Landry. Is that good or bad? We
Speaker 1: just got rid of my favorite tight end, Dalton Schultz,
Speaker 1: and I like Brandon Cooks. But look at you. In
Speaker 1: your defense. You have Michael Parsons. I would love to
Speaker 1: have Michael Parsons on offense. I love Ceedee Lamb. I
Speaker 1: think I need two Ceedee lambs. Can you believe I
Speaker 1: almost beat Philly last year with that super team and
Speaker 1: what I did with Cooper Rush. Do you think people
Speaker 1: notice that at all? Maybe? Can you imagine losing Michael
Speaker 1: Parsons and still competing what I did? Did people talk
Speaker 1: about it, by the way, at all? I mean people
Speaker 1: should really have people should have talked about it. We
Speaker 1: went four and one with Coope. I sure hope Dak
Speaker 1: can stay healthy this year. Do you think the offensive
Speaker 1: line will be okay? Dan, how do you think Jerry
Speaker 1: will like my offense? Do you think Jerry likes me?
Speaker 1: Don't you think I like it a lot more? My
Speaker 1: offense with a wide receiver? Okay? Bet signed your boy?
Speaker 1: MMC brilliant. Wow. I feel like we I did not
Speaker 1: know Mike McCarthy this way before. I understand a whole
Speaker 1: lot more about Mike McCarthy, through the way that he
Speaker 1: views not just his boss, but his co worker, the
Speaker 1: guy that's allegedly working for him. Yeah, like he does
Speaker 1: he realize he's in charge, you know. I think he's
Speaker 1: working through some things, and you can tell that he's
Speaker 1: looking for some validation. Maybe there's some insecurities there. His
Speaker 1: first time in a while calling plays is coming up,
Speaker 1: so I'm sure that that is probably an anxiety in
Speaker 1: the back of his mind. And Dan Quinn seems very confident,
Speaker 1: very able in his position, and he has a group
Speaker 1: of stars on that defense, so I I can sense
Speaker 1: just some you know, some stress coming from Michae McCarthy.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people out there dealing with imposter syndrome.
Speaker 1: And I think despite the generation, Micha McCarthy, Zaddie, you're
Speaker 1: so extra famously zaddie, right McCarthy. The spartlet CD says,
Speaker 1: I think you mentioned imposter syndrome like that when I
Speaker 1: went to one of your parties. It was like the
Speaker 1: third thing you mentioned me, like the third sentence. I
Speaker 1: was like, I relate to that. I think, yeah, well,
Speaker 1: you know who. The first time I ever heard about
Speaker 1: imposter syndrome, Joe Thomas was telling me about it. And
Speaker 1: Joe Thomas was telling me how he had imposter syndrome
Speaker 1: and how so many of the players that he played
Speaker 1: with had it as well, and so many of his
Speaker 1: friends in the league. And so I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, what tell me more? Go go on? What
Speaker 1: is this? And I'm like, oh my god, I have it.
Speaker 1: I didn't know this was a thing that other people had.
Speaker 1: Might have had something to do with the Joe Thomas
Speaker 1: part of it, but that is stunning to me because
Speaker 1: you would not you would not think that at all. Um,
Speaker 1: all right, I will offer a third letter. I can't wait.
Speaker 1: This is a letter from Cliff Kingsbury, stationed in Thailand,
Speaker 1: to Kyler Murray, his ex quarterback Kyler, Hello again from Thailand.
Speaker 1: You didn't respond to my last letter. Have you been
Speaker 1: over to water my plants? I only ask because that
Speaker 1: one fern in the den becomes an absolute disaster if
Speaker 1: it isn't tended to every four to five days. If
Speaker 1: you can't make it over, please have Rondale More swing by.
Speaker 1: He's help before and knows the doorcode. Secondly, have you
Speaker 1: considered my invitation? Zero response from you? Don't hide away, Veronica,
Speaker 1: and I demand that you visit our hut has Wi Fi.
Speaker 1: We're in the beating heart of the Golden Triangle, Opium Country, Kyler.
Speaker 1: Nobody here talks about the cover two shell. By the way,
Speaker 1: your name came up at breakfast. We've met this couple
Speaker 1: from America. The guy is Bernie, the girl is Susie.
Speaker 1: Bernie is this failed author who won an Audie on
Speaker 1: the prize's right. He turned around, sold the vehicle on
Speaker 1: the dark web and bought a ticket to Bangkok. Anyway,
Speaker 1: your name came up because Susie is some sort of
Speaker 1: super celeb on that Twitch site you're into. She banks
Speaker 1: about four k a month live gaming, eating lollipops and
Speaker 1: talking to dudes from Ohio. These are your people. During breakfast,
Speaker 1: I got a text from Bill Belichick. You ever coming back?
Speaker 1: He asked, Someday you'll buy that one way ticket too.
Speaker 1: I wrote back, Kyler, I know we have had our
Speaker 1: ups and downs, but I want you to know something.
Speaker 1: Last season is nothing more than a sheet than a
Speaker 1: sheet blowing gently in the wind on a clothesline over
Speaker 1: the hillside in a gentle rain. You are my friend, Cliff.
Speaker 1: Why are you not writing fiction? Like? Why are you
Speaker 1: doing this? You have I feel like I'm living at
Speaker 1: How did you develop four characters two minutes click fleshed
Speaker 1: out like Bernie and Susie Are I'm rooting? You know?
Speaker 1: One thing I learned about what I have respect for
Speaker 1: dying because I was like coming up with this like
Speaker 1: eight minutes before the show started, and I had like
Speaker 1: eight different names and they were all the wrong names,
Speaker 1: so it needed a proof. I'm glad I proved it.
Speaker 1: I like the sound of a hut with Wi Fi
Speaker 1: by the way, so I actually looked up where I
Speaker 1: think like someone like Cliff Kingsbury would stay, and they
Speaker 1: had these super luxury huts that are waterproof to start,
Speaker 1: but Wi Fi talked about like, um white linen robes.
Speaker 1: So I'm sure he's I don't know if he's still there.
Speaker 1: I actually tried to look and see if he was
Speaker 1: still there. There wasn't concrete evidence of where he was.
Speaker 1: When when you're in the heart of Opium country, you
Speaker 1: can be anywhere. Yeah, that's a great way to life
Speaker 1: as a metaphor. Yea, that Golden Triangles had some problems there.
Speaker 1: I'm picturing a glass bottom hut like so you can
Speaker 1: see all the fish and the coral and everything underneath. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love that. All right, now we're going to take
Speaker 1: a quick break and then we will come back. All right, Now,
Speaker 1: before we get out of here, we're gonna quickly go around.
Speaker 1: We've had this thing, my guy, for a long time.
Speaker 1: I don't think I had it. I didn't. I picked
Speaker 1: up Tyler Algier like throw a lot of red tape
Speaker 1: at the end of the season, but Greg had roughly
Speaker 1: twelve of them. Um, Dan, your guy. That's how that
Speaker 1: process win. But this time around, we've got the draft
Speaker 1: and we're even letting Grave Digger get a guy. You're
Speaker 1: gonna pick someone that you just want to back. Tell
Speaker 1: us why briefly and we're just green lighting it right now.
Speaker 1: This is your guy, Grave Digger, you go first. I'm
Speaker 1: going first, all right. My guy is a big twelve
Speaker 1: pass rusher who has a lot of bend. He's probably
Speaker 1: not maybe a late first round guy, not exactly a
Speaker 1: first round guy, but I'm going with Will McDonald the fourth.
Speaker 1: I think that he's one of the bendiest pass rushers
Speaker 1: in this draft class. The way he can turn the corner.
Speaker 1: He's got a great dip move, a great rip movie's
Speaker 1: really technically sound with his hands. I think he has
Speaker 1: a pretty advanced arsenal of pass rush moves for a
Speaker 1: guy just entering the league. And he's got really long arms,
Speaker 1: which I think helps him. He's able to get to
Speaker 1: the quarterback pretty nicely and force fumbles, which is a
Speaker 1: thing that I think, you know, can change games, and
Speaker 1: that having those long arms helps him do. So I
Speaker 1: am pretty much all in on Will McDonald the fourth
Speaker 1: as a pass rusher. I think when he comes into
Speaker 1: the league he might need a little bit of time
Speaker 1: to bulk up. He's a little bit lighter, but so
Speaker 1: he probably won't be an every down guy when he
Speaker 1: first comes into the league. But I do think that
Speaker 1: he's going to be a guy that we're we're talking
Speaker 1: about as like a pass rush havoc reaker. And I
Speaker 1: don't know if you saw this. I'm about to play
Speaker 1: a clip for the YouTube audience. Look at this. He
Speaker 1: can jump over a car if you want to roll
Speaker 1: this what Sorry for the audio listeners, but you got
Speaker 1: to check us out on YouTube. This guy is a
Speaker 1: crazy athlete. And uh, I'm all in. And that was like,
Speaker 1: that was not a not a car either. That was
Speaker 1: a seventeen through twenty twenty two Mazda c X five.
Speaker 1: It's impressive. So like a crossover tight, I mean that's
Speaker 1: it's a full on suv. I mean he put his
Speaker 1: hand on the hood just a little bit. He still
Speaker 1: jumped over the car. Now, so he was the fourth
Speaker 1: version of that human you passed up hard, passed on
Speaker 1: the first three, but you're now finally into it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: exactly right. He's just an athletic freak and he's really
Speaker 1: technically refined for for a young guy. So I'm all in,
Speaker 1: all right, it's got he's yours. There's no issues here.
Speaker 1: Congratulations officially your guy. I am going to take a
Speaker 1: cornerback out of TCU who's actually the nephew of one
Speaker 1: of our co workers and one of the best players
Speaker 1: in NFL history. It's tre ViOn Hodges. Tomlinson just finished
Speaker 1: an incredible season at TCU. He was the Jim Thorpe
Speaker 1: Award winner, played in the Shrine Bowl, which we love.
Speaker 1: The Shrine Bowls a great bowl game. But it's something
Speaker 1: that popped up on our radar was Jim Meggie was
Speaker 1: asked why the Jim Thorpe Award winner didn't get a
Speaker 1: chance to be invited to the Senior Bowl, and he said,
Speaker 1: because he's five to seven, and five seven guys don't
Speaker 1: normally get drafted. I don't care. I do not care.
Speaker 1: Go back and watch the Michigan game that people are
Speaker 1: Why are you talking about a defensive player from a
Speaker 1: game where the other team score forty five points. They
Speaker 1: did nothing on trey ViOn. It absolutely nothing. In fact
Speaker 1: that one of the two passes they attempted at him,
Speaker 1: he knocked one away. They picked off the other one
Speaker 1: and ran it back for a touchdown. It's like, do
Speaker 1: you need there's all kinds. I'm six feet tall. I
Speaker 1: can't cover a j Brown. Like, how much is height
Speaker 1: really doing for you? You need a guy who can
Speaker 1: be there, who can cover, who can tackle, and Treyvion
Speaker 1: can do all of that. And I'm just I'm sick
Speaker 1: of the hight thing like same join you on that.
Speaker 1: I have all the hype privilege in the world. It's overrated.
Speaker 1: It's not doing anything for me. I'm going to the
Speaker 1: knee doctor today. It's pointless. Like Trevion is my guy,
Speaker 1: I'll take him, but he doesn't. He won't need me
Speaker 1: because he'll be perfectly. That is too. So many listeners
Speaker 1: who are you know, under a certain height range where
Speaker 1: it's just like you're not even showing up on dating site,
Speaker 1: you know, so you're not even like you're just thinking,
Speaker 1: you know what, You're a hero to those people, to
Speaker 1: all of them. Well, you guys are heroes, all the
Speaker 1: short kings, all the short kings and queens and non
Speaker 1: binary short folks, like you're the hero. Don't literally, I
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, look up to your distance from
Speaker 1: the ground is not a personality. We just end the
Speaker 1: show right there, Yeah, end it right there. No, let's go.
Speaker 1: We're discussing that. I'm gonna get an MRI. We'll find out.
Speaker 1: We'll keep us posted. It's more machine than man. How
Speaker 1: About we'll save you for last and I'll get my
Speaker 1: up because my thing is more of an issue with
Speaker 1: teams that make this kind of mistake. Joey Porter Junior
Speaker 1: is my dude, no questions asked. First of all, Joey
Speaker 1: Porter Senior was one of the more like ragtag badass
Speaker 1: players of AFC North history. I'll never forget the Steelers
Speaker 1: defender when he got in a fight with William Green,
Speaker 1: Brown's running back back in the day, and it totally
Speaker 1: rattled the Browns entirely pregame. He just knew how to
Speaker 1: get into people's head. He did the thing where he
Speaker 1: do the crab walk across the field. This is Joey
Speaker 1: Porter junior, cornerback Penn State, six two and a half inches,
Speaker 1: thirty four inch arms. There are things, there are some things.
Speaker 1: He's maybe not the greatest cornerback in the draft, but
Speaker 1: this guy is a disruptor. He gave up of only
Speaker 1: one fifteen yard pass play last season according to PFF.
Speaker 1: He's got great size, length, speed. But here is my issue.
Speaker 1: As someone who watched the Browns house, Clay Matthews for
Speaker 1: a decade plus is one of the greatest linebackers in
Speaker 1: NFL history and then trying to build identity, passed on
Speaker 1: Clay Matthews, his son. Just a highly annoying pr move,
Speaker 1: and it turned out to be a disastrous idea for
Speaker 1: everyone that watching. JJ Watt said, Hey, you know what,
Speaker 1: We'll go pick some no Namer instead of t J. Watt.
Speaker 1: Another dumb move. I don't know how half these guys
Speaker 1: are doing any of this. But if you pass, if
Speaker 1: you're in that middle of that round and you pass
Speaker 1: on Joey Porter Jr. And you're the Steelers, bad idea.
Speaker 1: But especially if he ever came down to where the
Speaker 1: Ravens would be or something, and you could take a
Speaker 1: great Steeler from the offshoot of a great Steeler, You've
Speaker 1: got that in your wheelhouse for the next decade plus.
Speaker 1: So be smart about this. Don't pass on this guy.
Speaker 1: I like everything about him. He's yours. That's your guy, Yeah, Joey,
Speaker 1: your guy? All right, Colleen, Okay, here we go. My
Speaker 1: guy Byron Young out of Tennessee. All right, there's two,
Speaker 1: so I'm going with Tennessee. Okay. So the reason he
Speaker 1: is my guy is because I love his story. He
Speaker 1: went from working multiple jobs, including assistant manager at Dollar General,
Speaker 1: worked at Burger King, worked at Circle K to a
Speaker 1: second round prospect in three years time. So his boss
Speaker 1: at Burger King convinced him to get a second job
Speaker 1: at Dollar General to potentially make a career as a
Speaker 1: store manager. So he's stocking shelves, he's making milkshakes, he's
Speaker 1: mopping the floor, and he sees, by chance, a flyer
Speaker 1: for a football tryout at a military college nearby. He
Speaker 1: loved football. He went to the audition, he aid the
Speaker 1: team he was ready to be discovered. Then COVID shut
Speaker 1: down everything. So what he did was he made his
Speaker 1: own highlight tape, his own mixtape, sent it out, and
Speaker 1: then went back to work in the grille. Tennessee noticed,
Speaker 1: and three years later he's a starting defensive end for
Speaker 1: them for a top program, playing in a national championship game.
Speaker 1: He shined at the combine. He ran a four four three.
Speaker 1: This guy is everything. I love him. He's mine, he
Speaker 1: is yours. You've got him officially your guys. He's twitchy, guys,
Speaker 1: so that is that is something to keep an eye on.
Speaker 1: But yeah, his like he's disruptive. Lancer Line says that
Speaker 1: he has a great motor um and you know he's
Speaker 1: chiseled as well, which, um, most of these prospects are
Speaker 1: unless you're I guess an offensive lineman. I love it.
Speaker 1: We went deep into the ask food realm, into the
Speaker 1: day job realm, and lick everyone out there. You just
Speaker 1: look at those flyers on that wall. You never know,
Speaker 1: don't do the one where it's like ride across to
Speaker 1: ride share across the country with PERSONEX is that one
Speaker 1: that you considered have you do in college all the
Speaker 1: time it's like, oh, I've got to get back to
Speaker 1: the east coast from like central Ohio. I could just
Speaker 1: say the variance levels on how that goes is high. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And that's also like, don't don't stop. Just because the
Speaker 1: structures that are in place like have missed you, doesn't
Speaker 1: mean like that there's some sort of failure in you.
Speaker 1: It's a failure in the system. Battle them. He fought back,
Speaker 1: and look at him. Now he's Colleen's guy, like guy.
Speaker 1: I think you like he's on Twitter. I'm assuming right, Um,
Speaker 1: maybe we've got to let him know that he that
Speaker 1: he is. You know, you're a guy. I'll let him know,
Speaker 1: all right. I put all these notes together for this show,
Speaker 1: and I just got to a period in my notes
Speaker 1: here where it's just blank, there's nothing else to do.
Speaker 1: Apparently I did unlike Dan, I did not use the
Speaker 1: little clock here to tape this. Oh yeah, I have
Speaker 1: no idea how that show is sixty seven minutes. Apparently
Speaker 1: this has not If you need more time to fill
Speaker 1: I have a couple other guys. But like, if we're done,
Speaker 1: I think that would run a foul of the premise. Okay,
Speaker 1: oh right right. I mean I'm trying to get you
Speaker 1: out of here on time, Colleen. Okay, No, we're having
Speaker 1: a great time. I mean we can go longer if
Speaker 1: you if you need the tell me tell me. No,
Speaker 1: I want you to tell me what, like, to give
Speaker 1: me something that is annoying you right now before we
Speaker 1: leave each of you. Oh my gosh, something that's annoying
Speaker 1: me right now? Well, Um, I did a like I
Speaker 1: did a very high potency face mask thing to resurface
Speaker 1: my skin. Like it's basically gets rid of all of
Speaker 1: like the dead skin and stuff like that. And so
Speaker 1: now my skin is peeling off, Like I got a
Speaker 1: really bad sunburn and I had to put make up
Speaker 1: over it. So that's really really annoying me right now, Okay,
Speaker 1: I can piggyback on that because they have those whatever
Speaker 1: it's called Michaeloid patches. My wife had a pack and
Speaker 1: I had a zip and I'm like, oh, I'll put
Speaker 1: this on and it'll do something. Now I have like
Speaker 1: a permanent dark mark from this from this patch, and
Speaker 1: it's like, why didn't not just let the permanent like
Speaker 1: it's it's not going away, Like it's right here, right
Speaker 1: dark spot on my forehead where I try to use
Speaker 1: this patch that allegedly gets rid of temples. It sounds
Speaker 1: like a litigation heavy, right, I don't know. It's it's
Speaker 1: it's not going away, and so we'll see, we'll see
Speaker 1: if that happens. Also, anti labor practices branching out into
Speaker 1: that are bothering me at this moment. I will tell
Speaker 1: you what bother. We have a wonderful building here. It's
Speaker 1: a great place to work. I am contractually off I
Speaker 1: must say that, but it's it is a nice building.
Speaker 1: But when you get into a scenario where like you're
Speaker 1: walking behind someone who's like walking down the hall ambling
Speaker 1: slowly texting mall walkers. Yeah, you're just like at the
Speaker 1: slow walker and right, like there's no way to get
Speaker 1: around the left side or the right side without it
Speaker 1: being super awkward, and it's like I have somewhere to
Speaker 1: be and it's taking me five times longer because they're
Speaker 1: pounding out a huge text to like their honor uncle.
Speaker 1: You have to be on the left, guy, you have
Speaker 1: to just like say, on the left, on your left,
Speaker 1: and then you know, you know what, Like I when
Speaker 1: what I do, which is the worst, Like I'll duck
Speaker 1: down a side hallway and to sort of wait for
Speaker 1: like fifteen seconds and then come back around and be
Speaker 1: like there's more space I can attack this again from
Speaker 1: a different way or incredibly nice people. I just I
Speaker 1: look for the scene and then I hit the hole
Speaker 1: like I'm running running. I'm starting to I'm starting to
Speaker 1: take that approach though, because there's the wasting of the time.
Speaker 1: It's not working. So I mean that too, Patrick, except
Speaker 1: I'm really like, I don't know, I'm just like very
Speaker 1: awkward and shy about it. So I'm like, oh, excuse me, sorry, sorry, sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm walking by. Sorry. The other day is little Sessler
Speaker 1: in the hallway and I we were moments before the podcast,
Speaker 1: and I just mindlessly started following Cessler. So it's like,
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's just going to the studio, and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden I found myself near the screening room
Speaker 1: because you were like getting some type of beverage and
Speaker 1: then I was just standing next to you for no reason. Basically,
Speaker 1: So my annoyance is my navigation. It's not always on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well I'm a apologize for setting you down that that
Speaker 1: dark galley or whatever that was, but it was meant
Speaker 1: to be. All right, Well this was this was fun.
Speaker 1: Thank you for joining me A plus. I hope we
Speaker 1: can do it again, but we need to have Dan
Speaker 1: and Greg back here at some point and assuming they
Speaker 1: don't get like another outbreak of something happens in that
Speaker 1: they're on vacation for seven years of the go