Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome back to another episode of Real
Speaker 1: Time Crime. I'm your host Leah Lamar, and I have
Speaker 1: with me of course as always sometimes Dmitri Hello, Dmitri, Hello,
Speaker 1: how are you? I'm okay. I just canceled a thing
Speaker 1: and it wasn't a person. Thank you, tarn Um. We're
Speaker 1: gonna introduce our guests in just a second. But I
Speaker 1: am going crazy with n F t l A events
Speaker 1: and meeting lots of anonymous people in real life now,
Speaker 1: which is hilarious because I thought I was never going
Speaker 1: to be able to meet them, which is a crime.
Speaker 1: So you're meeting people at these events and you're just
Speaker 1: all standing around to gotta go on. So what the Yeah,
Speaker 1: So it's a bunch of people who scam each other.
Speaker 1: That's It's a one big crime ring. But we all
Speaker 1: just wear nice clothes. That's all that it is. Yeah, alright,
Speaker 1: just just a quick little rundown of what we're gonna
Speaker 1: be talking about today. We'll be talking about nine on
Speaker 1: one call revealing a boy falling to his death from
Speaker 1: a theme park ride. Will also be discussing a woman
Speaker 1: being arrested for shooting another woman over a wig. So
Speaker 1: many questions already, and of course we'll be talking about
Speaker 1: this laugh that heard around the world. Will Smith and
Speaker 1: Chris Rock Dmitri, are you ready for me to introduce
Speaker 1: our guests. I am okay, you guys, you're in for
Speaker 1: a real treat today because this man is one of
Speaker 1: my favorite human beings. And not only is he hilarious,
Speaker 1: but you'll see he's a sweet then spicy. He'll say
Speaker 1: something that seems extremely profound and then at the last
Speaker 1: minute turn it into some sort of joke where you
Speaker 1: hate yourself and also love yourself at the same time,
Speaker 1: and then retell it to other people. And don't give
Speaker 1: him credit. He is a comedian and yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's an actor. Well it's hard for me to steal
Speaker 1: his jokes. You'll see why in just a second. We're
Speaker 1: could not be more opposite as human beings. Um, but
Speaker 1: he's an Indian actor, host, TV and radio personality. He
Speaker 1: headlines all around not just the country, but the world.
Speaker 1: And he also went to law school, which is going
Speaker 1: to be a very interesting m It will just be
Speaker 1: interesting to have him on the podcast talking about crime
Speaker 1: since he's been to law school and Dmitri, now, I
Speaker 1: obviously don't know anything about the law. We just whoa,
Speaker 1: how do you know I've never been in law school.
Speaker 1: You would have brought it up on Namitri. That's a
Speaker 1: good point. Okay, thank you, damn it uh. Tehran von
Speaker 1: Gasri is one of my favorite people. He's half black,
Speaker 1: half Persian and he will never let you forget it. Tarran,
Speaker 1: thank you so much, So glad to be here with
Speaker 1: Leo Lamar. Hello, Ri. Dmitri is my nemesis. Dmitri is
Speaker 1: my nemesis. He's the anti Tehran. I'm not sure how
Speaker 1: that would he because I have no hair and you
Speaker 1: have just dripping down your head of hair, like you
Speaker 1: can't even eveen under your hat. It's not just hair.
Speaker 1: You're also like nice and you're kind and you care.
Speaker 1: I'm over you. I think you've got the wrong impression
Speaker 1: of Demitri. We can fix that. On the outside. I
Speaker 1: already know Dmitri on the outside is this tough nose,
Speaker 1: hard ass. But on the inside, squishy teddy bear. Squishy
Speaker 1: teddy bear. Have we met before? Like I never unless
Speaker 1: this episode was gonna be dissecting me. It's a psycho
Speaker 1: analysis of you. It's the second analyse of you. It's
Speaker 1: actually this isn't true crime. This is Dr Phil and
Speaker 1: I'm here to tell you who you damn it. It's
Speaker 1: intervention time. I knew it was coming anyway back to me,
Speaker 1: if that's okay. So just so everyone's aware, if you
Speaker 1: can't see the clips that we're posting, Tehran is in
Speaker 1: his home studio. He's wearing a hat with his name
Speaker 1: on it, and in the background he has multiple photos
Speaker 1: of himself and pop art form and and it's kind
Speaker 1: of inception photos because in the photos of himself he's
Speaker 1: wearing a sweatshirt with a photo of himself on it.
Speaker 1: This is true and I'm also wearing I'm also wearing. Uh,
Speaker 1: my bottoms have my pictures on them too, and so
Speaker 1: do my my underwear. Listen, the point is this, If
Speaker 1: you guys haven't already noticed, Tarran and I know each
Speaker 1: other very well. We haven't been friends for seven six years.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's been longer. It feels like eternity,
Speaker 1: kind of like the tenth level bell. But it's fine.
Speaker 1: It's fine. Leo Lamar. By the way, to me, so
Speaker 1: he said we weren't going to get along, You're making
Speaker 1: a lot of sense here. To Leo Lamar, is the
Speaker 1: anti you right, soft and squashy on the outside, deep
Speaker 1: down inside, dead, dead on the inside. I'm letting you
Speaker 1: know that now dead on the inside and willing to
Speaker 1: murder all of us, willing to murder all of us.
Speaker 1: I don't want to the airport if I asked, would
Speaker 1: pick me up from the airport if I asked? Which
Speaker 1: is crazy to me? Which is crazy? I'll say this
Speaker 1: he Tarran has picked me up from the airport once
Speaker 1: and he said never again. Never, never again. The fact
Speaker 1: that I've ever done that, I actually that was one
Speaker 1: of my denied till I die once and I cried
Speaker 1: in the whole car ride home, and I pretended it
Speaker 1: was because of my family, but it was because he
Speaker 1: was mean to me. This is really shaping up to
Speaker 1: be quite an episode that's gonna be. This is it's
Speaker 1: already a true crime by the way, I feel that
Speaker 1: Leo Lamar has me on this because she's like, oh
Speaker 1: the law background is, She's like, and also he's committed
Speaker 1: crimes like I felt like, you know, what's so funny.
Speaker 1: I didn't even tell them that you've been to jail. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 1: I didn't even tell them I've been to did you
Speaker 1: have to Well, I'm a person of color in the
Speaker 1: United States of America. Let's be very real. By the way,
Speaker 1: I don't get to do that. You don't get every
Speaker 1: comedian I've had on this podcast. Uh, Janna's papas, who's
Speaker 1: not a comedian of color who's also been to jail? Um,
Speaker 1: But Mark Norman not a comedian of color. Who's every
Speaker 1: single comedian who's been on the podcast has been to jail.
Speaker 1: Daphnique Springs, Mark Norman, Um, Janna's props. But the ones
Speaker 1: of color have all been innocent, le A Lamar, The
Speaker 1: ones of color have all been innocent. Once, iime, once
Speaker 1: you said you went to law school, I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: that's just so he can, you know, get himself out
Speaker 1: of the ship he's getting himself into. Thank you Dmitri
Speaker 1: for understanding me. You're still my nemesis, but in a
Speaker 1: good way, kind of like how the Batman needs the Joker.
Speaker 1: You know, It's all right, we need each other. Yet
Speaker 1: and yet again, you guys are meeting in prison or
Speaker 1: an insane asylum. It's hard to say which one. At
Speaker 1: this point. This is awesome. Yeah, you guys are being
Speaker 1: held hostage at this point. This is just Stockholm syndrome.
Speaker 1: I think Dmitri has been locked into this podcast. And
Speaker 1: here's language that's actually my love language, Stockholm Central. That's
Speaker 1: how I that's how I find potential mates. Yeah, like,
Speaker 1: how did I even get into Tehron's car? I don't
Speaker 1: know why, but I'm not leaving it. Um T why
Speaker 1: did you go to jail? Um? I want to throw
Speaker 1: I want to throw out. I want to throw out
Speaker 1: the term. But the the legal which is the first
Speaker 1: time I've seen you freeze and answering any time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because this is because this is a legal question. You're
Speaker 1: to have to speak to my lawyer. I need are
Speaker 1: you your lawyer? Whenever I have a conversation, lawyer, I
Speaker 1: need my lawyer. You just turn your hat backwards? Is
Speaker 1: that how that worked? His lawyer had has a picture
Speaker 1: of him in a suit. I wear many different hats.
Speaker 1: But yes, there are many different times than many different reasons.
Speaker 1: But you know, it's all things that are behind me.
Speaker 1: I've never been convicted of any crime. I've been convicted
Speaker 1: of any crime. I want to point that out, and
Speaker 1: I just want American note, They're safe with me. You
Speaker 1: are safe at home. Wait, by the wait, I don't
Speaker 1: find I don't find myself compelling or believable right now.
Speaker 1: So I'm getting to I'm going to jail. I'm guilty.
Speaker 1: This is a guilty verdict right now, thank you. So
Speaker 1: I just want to let you know all the other
Speaker 1: comedians have fully told the story of the time that
Speaker 1: they went to jail. It just seems like you're holding
Speaker 1: that because what what did Mark Norman go to jail for?
Speaker 1: One day? I was jaywalking and then he went to
Speaker 1: the drunk tank. Yeah, after I did another late night show.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm saying, like, what did Mark Norman? What
Speaker 1: could they have gotten in trouble for? You know? So alright,
Speaker 1: so we know now it's probably sensitive material. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: you're the response was I'd like to just say I
Speaker 1: didn't do it. I did wasn't my fault. Okay, calm down.
Speaker 1: I did not with that woman. Listen. It's just one
Speaker 1: of those things. It's life, you know. But we've moved on.
Speaker 1: We've moved on, you know. Oh, Jason and Bill Clinton
Speaker 1: just naming black people. Leo Lamar, I feel like Dmitri
Speaker 1: say something, say something, your nemesis. He's on my team.
Speaker 1: Now the COO needs help all of a sudden. And
Speaker 1: see how long you've been doing comedy? Who got you started?
Speaker 1: I've been doing comedy for and and this is the
Speaker 1: COVID years really placed that two year extra addition. But
Speaker 1: I've been doing comedy for twelve years now, twelve years,
Speaker 1: and I want to only say ten, but it's been twelve.
Speaker 1: And it's just, uh, it's a hard thing. It's a
Speaker 1: hard thing to reconcile with oneself. Yeah, and what got
Speaker 1: you into comedy? Uh? That actually goes back to the
Speaker 1: crime question. That's actually that really goes back to the
Speaker 1: crime question. But I was as I was graduating as
Speaker 1: I as I was graduating law school, I was trying
Speaker 1: to figure out what was my next move. And actually,
Speaker 1: what was really interesting is there's a comedian named Mikey Winfield,
Speaker 1: who I know Leil Lamar is very familiar with, but
Speaker 1: for those of you who aren't, he's a very charismatic,
Speaker 1: wonderful comedian of color, with great brown skin and an
Speaker 1: amazing smile. And I turned on the TV and saw
Speaker 1: him doing comedy and I literally thought to myself, if
Speaker 1: this guy can do this, I can do it too.
Speaker 1: And that's what got me into comedy. I feel like
Speaker 1: he'll hate hearing this. He's heard it many times. He's
Speaker 1: heard it many times. So thank you to everybody that's
Speaker 1: been part of my comedy journey, including the wonderful Leo Lamar,
Speaker 1: who was the reason I got on Clubhouse, the reason
Speaker 1: I got on Clubhouse. Yeah, and Clubhouse has been terrorized
Speaker 1: ever since. They actually have spoken to Lee in regards
Speaker 1: to that. Why anyway, if we could just keep this
Speaker 1: moving right along and really appreciate that. Okay, you guys,
Speaker 1: it's start for us to get into our hot topics
Speaker 1: for this week. This one is pretty sensitive. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of you've already heard about this story,
Speaker 1: and I will give you the scoop, But apparently Tyree Sampson,
Speaker 1: fourteen years old of St. Louis, Missouri, died after slipping
Speaker 1: out of his seat on the free Fall ride at
Speaker 1: around eleven pm on Thursday. The teenager wasting visiting Central
Speaker 1: Florida on a football program trip with his friends family.
Speaker 1: When asked by the operator how far up the team
Speaker 1: was when he fell, the woman replied, I'm not sure,
Speaker 1: but it's the new ride. That's all the way up
Speaker 1: the highest one. I don't know from where he fell.
Speaker 1: How does she have time to have good grammar? And
Speaker 1: I'll never understand that. Tyree's father, Yarnell, said that his
Speaker 1: son was six ft five and forty pounds and was
Speaker 1: told by other rides in the park that he was
Speaker 1: too large to hide safely, but that the free fall
Speaker 1: ride operators waived him aboard. The grieving father said that
Speaker 1: Tyree began to panic and shared a chilling premonition with
Speaker 1: his two best friends seated next him on the ride.
Speaker 1: That's when he started freaking out. He was explaining to
Speaker 1: his friends next to him, I don't know, man, if
Speaker 1: I don't make it down safely, can you please tell
Speaker 1: my MoMA and daddy that I love them? And his
Speaker 1: friend said for him to say something like that, he
Speaker 1: must have felt something. So now there's an investigation under
Speaker 1: way and they are trying to figure out who is
Speaker 1: to blame for this. Apparently the only thing stopping people
Speaker 1: from falling out of their seats were plastic pulled down harnesses,
Speaker 1: which are supposed to buckle in place in between writers legs,
Speaker 1: and apparently his harness was still locked after the fall.
Speaker 1: There's a pretty gruesome report of the nine on one call,
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna read it because it's a literally
Speaker 1: it's intense alright. So you guys, the article says that
Speaker 1: he may have exceeded the right's weight limit and he
Speaker 1: was turned away from other rides. Mm hmmm. So do
Speaker 1: we think that the responsibility of death falls on the
Speaker 1: person and people operating the passengers on the free fall? Right? Well,
Speaker 1: there are a lot of different There are a lot
Speaker 1: of different things we have to take in their context. Right,
Speaker 1: So not only not only did we just open this ride,
Speaker 1: this is apparently supposed to be a new ride, but
Speaker 1: it goes up to about four hundred and thirty ft high,
Speaker 1: which is very high. And as for Tyree himself, he's
Speaker 1: apparently two hundred and eighty five to three hundred pounds
Speaker 1: six ft five tall or three d and forty pounds
Speaker 1: six ft five tall mail And the ride it exceeds
Speaker 1: the limits once it hits two hundred pounds. So that's
Speaker 1: somebody's fault for allowing him on the ride. And we
Speaker 1: know why this happens. When you go to these especially
Speaker 1: these kind of local town amusement parks. It's not like
Speaker 1: we have a professor or physics PhD running running the show.
Speaker 1: It's a twenty year old kid who could be friends
Speaker 1: with you or whatever it is, and goes, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: just get on, and that's how it starts. I think
Speaker 1: the thing that's odd to me is if he was
Speaker 1: getting rejected from every other ride, why would he be like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, let me go on the tallest one. Because
Speaker 1: he's fourteen years old and he thought, listen, if I
Speaker 1: can get it, like we're you kind of forget. And
Speaker 1: I think the people probably running the ride that twenty
Speaker 1: year old kids looked at this guy. He's six ft
Speaker 1: five pounds. You probably look at him like he's a man.
Speaker 1: And but he's a fourteen year old kid. So he
Speaker 1: got to go on a ride that his friends were
Speaker 1: going on. Of course he took the opportunity because you
Speaker 1: don't think, okay, well I'm gonna fall from this thing
Speaker 1: and I'm going to die. Obviously he had a premonition
Speaker 1: when he was on it. He he was like, oh
Speaker 1: I could go on this ride. Let me jump on it.
Speaker 1: I think we're looking at it because hindsight is every
Speaker 1: single there are times will you'll say something and then
Speaker 1: the one time Unfortunately, in this tragic situation, it comes true.
Speaker 1: You're taking it out of context and you're saying, wow,
Speaker 1: he had a premonition, but really what you're going up
Speaker 1: that high You're like, Oh, if I die, let my
Speaker 1: parents know that I loved them. You know, that's actually
Speaker 1: I told my kids that before I came in here
Speaker 1: to do this podcast. And has still die, And then
Speaker 1: people will be like, he had a premonition all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, I Tehran come into the background of Dmitri Zoom.
Speaker 1: Every day I have premonitions. I'm every time I get
Speaker 1: in my car, I'm like, I'm going to die today
Speaker 1: in this car. So there's gonna be one day. But
Speaker 1: you're also an awful driver, La, So that's actually okay,
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, please continue, how dare you please? You know,
Speaker 1: all I'll say is that none of them were my fault.
Speaker 1: Wait are you still talking about car accidents or guylous?
Speaker 1: That hilious? And and also I just to say, this
Speaker 1: is so tragic, and I can't even imagine how his
Speaker 1: friends feel. They were sitting next to him on the ride.
Speaker 1: His friends, his parents like this is like said, this
Speaker 1: is a fourteen year old kid. He went on a
Speaker 1: trip and apparently, uh, very nice, like genuine heartfelt kid
Speaker 1: he went on a trip with his friends. Like, man,
Speaker 1: that's like, as a parent, that's what you want your
Speaker 1: kids to go and have fun. But man, to have
Speaker 1: this stuff in your head, like you you don't stop
Speaker 1: them from doing things because of the odds of it happening.
Speaker 1: But the fact is, it does happen sometimes. And when
Speaker 1: that happens, I mean, do you remember that story at
Speaker 1: Disney if a bunch of years ago, this family was
Speaker 1: on vacation and they were watching a movie on the
Speaker 1: beach and like, the two year old son went too
Speaker 1: close to the water and an alligator jumped out and
Speaker 1: dragged him in, and and and everybody and and people online. No,
Speaker 1: but people online were like, what's wrong with these parents
Speaker 1: letting him do this? Like, hey, how about these parents
Speaker 1: took their kids to Disney, Like if they weren't like
Speaker 1: ignoring their kids, they had the right intent. But you
Speaker 1: you just don't know when this is going to happen.
Speaker 1: I think that if I ever have children, they're never
Speaker 1: allowed to leave the house and we're going to live
Speaker 1: in a bunker anyway, moving on, So it sounds like
Speaker 1: if you ever have a boyfriend, they're not allowed to
Speaker 1: have social media. That's kind of like, that's your m O. However,
Speaker 1: in this particular situation, I do feel very very sad
Speaker 1: for the parents because this is a fourteen year old boy.
Speaker 1: This is a fourteen year old who has the tragic
Speaker 1: laws of life in this manner, and that the concept
Speaker 1: is at this point it doesn't matter whose fault it is,
Speaker 1: simply because how do you replace your child, the person
Speaker 1: you have placed all your hopes and fears and and
Speaker 1: future inside. So it's just a it's a horrible situation.
Speaker 1: I do want to point out one external factor that
Speaker 1: we forgot or neglected to mention. It did happen in Florida,
Speaker 1: where it seems like a lot of these kind of
Speaker 1: situations tend to happen. Just saying and let's not one
Speaker 1: last thing, let's not gloss over a brand new ride
Speaker 1: in two and they said there were plastic harnesses, Like
Speaker 1: what is that? Don't don't build rides with plastic harnesses
Speaker 1: that go up the highest of any ride in Florida.
Speaker 1: Also they hate the environment. Well, they're not throwing away
Speaker 1: the plastic harnesses, they're using the plastic the plastic can
Speaker 1: never be destroyed, So that's number one. Number two, never
Speaker 1: say that I neglected something again, Taran. I will always
Speaker 1: I felt that because it just felt like you needed
Speaker 1: to let me know that I didn't mention it, and
Speaker 1: I felt that. But it was nice because he wrapped
Speaker 1: it up with taking a dig in Florida, which I
Speaker 1: can always get on board with, which I'm actually just
Speaker 1: mentioning it. And I would like to say that, of
Speaker 1: all places, the fact that this happened in Florida is
Speaker 1: actually surprising because Florida is one of the epicenters of
Speaker 1: amusement park rides, so you would think that they would
Speaker 1: have much better safety features and inspectors. I do want
Speaker 1: to remind everybody that every single time you see a
Speaker 1: warning symbol or warning sign, it comes on the heels
Speaker 1: and the backs of someone's tragic loss or death. So
Speaker 1: whenever you walk into an elevator and it says only
Speaker 1: five people and you're like, oh, let's just have six,
Speaker 1: remember there was a time there were six or seven
Speaker 1: and that elevator just fell through the shaft. And that's
Speaker 1: why we now have those warning signs on all those elevators.
Speaker 1: Warning signs come on that heel. Whenever you see that,
Speaker 1: just think of that. And in this case, we knew
Speaker 1: that it exceeds the limit at two and eighty five
Speaker 1: or two eighty six pounds, and we don't have exact
Speaker 1: weight measuring machines. But possibly if we had a better
Speaker 1: professional and I don't want to blame the attendant, but
Speaker 1: a better trained attendant might have been able to recognize
Speaker 1: the weight and size exceeds the limits, and we might
Speaker 1: have avoided this tragic death. I think that it's like,
Speaker 1: how do you how do you turn someone away without
Speaker 1: embarrassing them? You know, there might have been some sort
Speaker 1: of like, oh, he's probably fine, he's like, nothing bad been.
Speaker 1: I don't want to make him feel weird in front
Speaker 1: of his friends and say no, you're too large or
Speaker 1: more embarrassing. Like it's just like, yeah, you know, it's
Speaker 1: so weird about these warning signs. It's like, now I
Speaker 1: understand why no one in my apartment building gets on
Speaker 1: the elevator when they see me. I'm just I'm wondering
Speaker 1: what notices they sent out to everyone. Yeah, they pressed
Speaker 1: the button. I'll take the next one, you know. I'm like,
Speaker 1: what happened was specifically about you it was one incident
Speaker 1: and he's fine. They're like, guys, her picture was in
Speaker 1: the pamphlint for a reason. Does heed the warning? They're like,
Speaker 1: don't worry, she will be out of here in five months. Um. Anyway,
Speaker 1: so do you think that they should close the ride?
Speaker 1: I think it warns an investigation, if nothing else, it
Speaker 1: definitely warns the safety investigation, especially if they're saying that
Speaker 1: the buckle was still in the harness when the ride
Speaker 1: came to completion. So they're saying the buckle was still working.
Speaker 1: So how did this six ft five and forty pound
Speaker 1: fourteen year old slipped through all the harnesses? How did
Speaker 1: that happen? Slip out? No? So what happened? Did the snap?
Speaker 1: And right now you have to remember that everybody's trying
Speaker 1: to cover their own asks. Everybody. Anything that gets said
Speaker 1: right now is because now it's going to be used
Speaker 1: against them and if not a court of law, at
Speaker 1: least a civil trial. Thank you lawyer. I know, like
Speaker 1: I was cool with the nemesis and thing before, but
Speaker 1: now he's like smart and funny, and I'm like, what
Speaker 1: does that mean? What am I now? Um? You're sometimes
Speaker 1: to Yeah, that's my happy place. Okay, all right, I
Speaker 1: think it's time for us to move on because Tehran
Speaker 1: starts speaking legally and it made us feel inferior. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, we'll see and I know this, and you
Speaker 1: have to understand that this, this legal, this legal civil
Speaker 1: suit is going to set a precedent for these many rides.
Speaker 1: Disney settles a lot of civil suits out of court.
Speaker 1: Disney is also very much responsible for our copyright laws
Speaker 1: in this country, but a lot of our liability UH
Speaker 1: insurance claims. Also because it's one of the largest largest
Speaker 1: providers of amusement rides. So we will see how this
Speaker 1: sets up, especially in a place that is a hub,
Speaker 1: an epicenter of amusement parts, which is Orlando. That is
Speaker 1: what Orlando is known for, and more importantly, it's known
Speaker 1: for its tourism. The effects of this can have leading
Speaker 1: effects on the economy there in many ways which we
Speaker 1: are not prepared to understand at this time. Who wants
Speaker 1: to go to that park? Now, who wants to ride
Speaker 1: that ride? That ride shutting down causes a cost, and
Speaker 1: we'll see how that works out in place. I I
Speaker 1: thought she was going to pay you a compliment. I no, no, no,
Speaker 1: That's how I compliment his by letting him know he
Speaker 1: spoke for a very long time. No, but I think
Speaker 1: Disney is also responsible for me thinking that I will
Speaker 1: one day marry a prince, and so I hate that
Speaker 1: that's a but that's because you've been looking at the
Speaker 1: stories incorrectly. Cinderella is literally a story about a girl
Speaker 1: who falls in love with a guy who has no
Speaker 1: idea what she looks like when she takes her makeup off.
Speaker 1: That's literally what the story is. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: we've seen it that Love is Blind on Netflix. Isn't
Speaker 1: that the same thing? Basically every l a love store.
Speaker 1: We're moving on, all right, this hot topic, very hot,
Speaker 1: almost too hot to discuss. A woman is arrested for
Speaker 1: shooting another woman twice after a fight over a wig.
Speaker 1: A woman is behind bars after Memphis police say she
Speaker 1: shot at another woman twice after a fight over a wig.
Speaker 1: The incident happened on March twenty six, just four days ago.
Speaker 1: According to an offid David, the victim, identified Arta via
Speaker 1: Buying hum as the person who shot at her. Buying
Speaker 1: him allegedly fired two shots after a fight about a wig.
Speaker 1: Police said the shots hit the victims. Buick verano On
Speaker 1: voluntarily went to the police station for an interview. She
Speaker 1: confessed to shooting at the victim twice. After the fight,
Speaker 1: she was arrested in charge with aggravated assault. I feel
Speaker 1: like I just read the same sentence eight times. But basically,
Speaker 1: one woman shot another woman twice over a wig? Okay?
Speaker 1: What did this wig look like? Was it super expensive?
Speaker 1: Did she steal it from her? Why is this happening?
Speaker 1: And also is the victim okay? Ah? What is happening
Speaker 1: in Memphis? I'm about to go get hair extensions later
Speaker 1: and I'm like, if someone gonna try to rip them
Speaker 1: out of my head? Possibly, it depends on where you
Speaker 1: get these extends. Beverly Hills. So definitely, yes, yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean crime is high right now in l A. What
Speaker 1: most devicious people I know live in Beverly Hills? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I know them all. And but those are the
Speaker 1: white color crimes? Are there? Where does wig wig color crimes?
Speaker 1: I wasn't going there, but thank you here, welcome the nenture.
Speaker 1: Do you guys can care about this case? I think,
Speaker 1: to be honest, this is this is just a heated thing,
Speaker 1: Like I think it's stupid. I don't think like not
Speaker 1: talking about it. I think it's stupid that somebody potentially
Speaker 1: could have killed someone over of a wig, so obviously
Speaker 1: that you chalked this up to just like craziness. I
Speaker 1: guess I don't know why we're stealing wigs or why
Speaker 1: we're getting that heated over wigs, and I don't have hair,
Speaker 1: so but I'm not taking anybody down for some what
Speaker 1: if she saw or maybe she thought she saw hair
Speaker 1: is from the wig at her boyfriend's place, And it
Speaker 1: wasn't really about the wig at all, was it. I
Speaker 1: just wanted to make it a crime of passion. It
Speaker 1: is a crime of passion in a way if you
Speaker 1: think about it. So what it is is this is
Speaker 1: a fight that stemmed over a wig, but it leads
Speaker 1: and it bleeds into more. It stems over the wig.
Speaker 1: But we've all been in a situation where something smaller
Speaker 1: minute leads to a much larger, heated reaction. And we're
Speaker 1: actually going to talk about something like that a little
Speaker 1: bit later. But the concept is, this wasn't shooting over
Speaker 1: the wig. It's not like give me my wig. And
Speaker 1: these were complete strangers. These were two friends who there's
Speaker 1: a lot to unpack there and it just went too
Speaker 1: far and someone's reaction was one that on befit the
Speaker 1: crime or situation at hand. So potentially a misleading headline.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if it was a misleading headline,
Speaker 1: but headlines are created to get us to click them. Well,
Speaker 1: headlines are created because that's where wigs are in your
Speaker 1: head and anyway, so we're just gonna move right along
Speaker 1: because I'm canceled from comedy. Okay, this next story is
Speaker 1: very troubling and heartbreaking, So I didn't mention it earlier
Speaker 1: on when I was telling you what's happening this episode
Speaker 1: because it's just so heartbreaking. So two teen cousins have
Speaker 1: been found dead after a horrific incident occurred during an
Speaker 1: Instagram live while they were playing with a gun. The
Speaker 1: incident happened in Missouri at around two in the morning
Speaker 1: on Friday. The St. Louis Police identified the children as
Speaker 1: twelve year old Paris Harvey and her fourteen year old cousin,
Speaker 1: Karen Harvey. Both are from St. Louis. They were pronounced
Speaker 1: dead at the scene and the police have deemed it
Speaker 1: an incident they said a murder suicide, but it is
Speaker 1: more of just a tragic accident. So apparently they were
Speaker 1: making a video and Paris dropped the gun. It fell,
Speaker 1: it went off, and then I think she tried to
Speaker 1: pick it up, and she picked it up by the
Speaker 1: barrel and it went off. And so it was kind
Speaker 1: of a freak accident, is what they're saying it was.
Speaker 1: It wasn't an intentional murder suicide. And Miss Harvey said
Speaker 1: that she didn't know who owned the gun and she
Speaker 1: didn't know how her daughter got ahold of it. So, Dmitri,
Speaker 1: as a parent, do you think twelve years old and
Speaker 1: four years old is too old to pay attention to
Speaker 1: what your kids are doing in the house? And if
Speaker 1: the doors closed, are you checking in on them? Are
Speaker 1: you well? What? What? What do you put your take
Speaker 1: on this? My my take on it is no, it's
Speaker 1: never kids are never too old to check on them,
Speaker 1: especially you know the doors closed, you wonder what they're doing.
Speaker 1: But this has nothing to do with two kids being
Speaker 1: in a room with the door closed and not being
Speaker 1: checked on. This. This goes and by I want to
Speaker 1: be clear, I'm not blaming these parents. I don't know
Speaker 1: anything about them, but but parenting goes beyond a moment
Speaker 1: of should I have checked on them? Parenting is the
Speaker 1: whole time leading up to that as well. Right, So
Speaker 1: there's talks about guns. There's talks about however that gun
Speaker 1: got there. I don't know, but there's talks about what
Speaker 1: is appropriate and what what is safe and things that
Speaker 1: you should be doing, and it should never It should
Speaker 1: be that these kids wouldn't think, wouldn't want to even
Speaker 1: try playing with a gun for Instagram live video. How
Speaker 1: did they not know that a gun came into their house?
Speaker 1: We don't know the situation or this family, this family,
Speaker 1: this family. Does it mean that they all brought guns.
Speaker 1: It could have been one family member who brought a
Speaker 1: gun and it was for their their protection, whether it's
Speaker 1: in their personal or professional lives, or they just felt
Speaker 1: safe for having a gun. It's like, let's also remember
Speaker 1: this happened, and this happened in in St. Louis. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so this is a place where St. Louis has a
Speaker 1: high crime rate. It's a it's a city where you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of people do feel they need to protect themselves.
Speaker 1: It's not always a viable way to get a legal gun.
Speaker 1: Some people have to go the route depending on their
Speaker 1: backgrounds or their own personal options. So I don't want
Speaker 1: to judge where that gun came from. And I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not an opponent of the Second Amendment. I do
Speaker 1: think we do need this is this goes to why
Speaker 1: we need stricter gun laws, why we need stricter gun laws,
Speaker 1: and we need redding, and we need to be aware
Speaker 1: of that. That's the other thing that comes to mind
Speaker 1: is gun safety. I'm not saying it's wrong to have
Speaker 1: a gun. I'm not saying it's wrong to bring a
Speaker 1: guns them where However, especially if you're going to be
Speaker 1: around children. I know people in l A who have
Speaker 1: guns and they keep them in safe where they have
Speaker 1: codes on them. You know, the gun is for a
Speaker 1: very specific use at a specific time, and under no
Speaker 1: other circumstances is it being brought out. And by the
Speaker 1: time you get the safe, by the way, you're already.
Speaker 1: But there are strict laws where you have to lock
Speaker 1: them up, you have to lock them up and things
Speaker 1: like that, especially in California, especially in Los Angeles. Well yeah,
Speaker 1: but I mean crime rates are so high here that
Speaker 1: who's really locking after guns? You know, That's the funny thing.
Speaker 1: In Los Angeles, crime rates are high, and now we
Speaker 1: have this, we have this ring of criminals who are
Speaker 1: going around robbing people. However, because of the strict gun laws,
Speaker 1: if you do fire a gun or protect yourself, you're
Speaker 1: going to get in trouble. And this has happened to
Speaker 1: several people that have done so. So it's a very
Speaker 1: interesting situation that comes to play. But in this part
Speaker 1: particular situation, there is a question of gun safety. There
Speaker 1: is a question of why two children were able to
Speaker 1: have a gun, find a gun, and play with a gun,
Speaker 1: and to do so well live and no one to
Speaker 1: no one to admonish them or even critique them on live.
Speaker 1: That says a lot about us as well. It says
Speaker 1: a lot about you know, whoever was watching. No no
Speaker 1: one was like, why don't do this? Don't play? Don't
Speaker 1: They might have been we don't know, we didn't see
Speaker 1: the transcript. It might have been. But they also don't know.
Speaker 1: They don't know is it a real gun, isn't loaded?
Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many factors that go into this.
Speaker 1: But I agree with you. If I saw that, if
Speaker 1: if for some reason I saw a video and I
Speaker 1: saw two kids or two people playing with a gun, improperly,
Speaker 1: I would say something, but you know, clearly, as you
Speaker 1: can read any news headline or any story on the Internet,
Speaker 1: you'll know that there's tons of different types of people
Speaker 1: in the world, and they might have thought it was
Speaker 1: a fake gun. You know. I feel like the lines
Speaker 1: are so blurred between reality and reality. It's like I
Speaker 1: don't even know what's really anymore. And that actually feels
Speaker 1: a lot like what happened with Will Smith and Chris Rock,
Speaker 1: which will get into in just a second. Right after
Speaker 1: this break and we're back, Welcome back to real time crime.
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Speaker 1: And speaking of being there for each other, Hollywood did
Speaker 1: not have each other's back this past weekend at the Oscars.
Speaker 1: You all already know about this, but now it's our
Speaker 1: take here on Real time crime. So if you don't know,
Speaker 1: you're living under a rock and wake up. Hello, are
Speaker 1: you Okay? It's pandemics over and Will Smith akers Rocker
Speaker 1: hit each other on national television International to not hitting
Speaker 1: not hitting each other, not hitting each other? All right, okay,
Speaker 1: back back back, I'll backtrack. Um. During the Oscars on Sunday,
Speaker 1: Will Smith stunned the Dolby foter crowd and viewers at
Speaker 1: home when he took the stage during Chris Rock's remarks.
Speaker 1: After Commedie made a joke about Jada will Smith's wife,
Speaker 1: he said, Jada, I love you, g I Jane two
Speaker 1: can't wait to see it, and the joke touched a
Speaker 1: nerve and Will Smith walked onto stage, slapped Chris across
Speaker 1: the face, went back to his seat, kept yelling keep
Speaker 1: my wife's name out of your sin mouth. Jada has
Speaker 1: a shaved head, but mostly because she has alopecia, and
Speaker 1: I guess that was diagnosed. The joke wasn't particularly funny,
Speaker 1: it was very dated. I didn't even know she had alopecia.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're now launching an investigation, and Will Smith
Speaker 1: did apologize publicly to Chris Rock, and Chris Rock did
Speaker 1: not press charges. What what's everyone's take? At first? I
Speaker 1: thought my first thought was I gotta get to Twitter,
Speaker 1: and then I couldn't stop tweeting. I literally was like, joke, joke, joke, joke,
Speaker 1: I can't stop, but mostly because I thought it was staged.
Speaker 1: And then my second thought was, is Chris Rock promoting
Speaker 1: something soon? Though still some people still do think of
Speaker 1: stage right and as a comedian, it's terrifying that anyone
Speaker 1: could just come on stage and assault you and no
Speaker 1: one does anything about it, and win an award and
Speaker 1: get a standing ovation twenty minutes later. I mean, talk
Speaker 1: about highest high and low is low within twenty minute period.
Speaker 1: But I'm also of the school of thought where it's
Speaker 1: very interesting to watch to a list celebrities get into
Speaker 1: a legitimate fight in front of the entire world and
Speaker 1: have no one know how to react. Not one person knew.
Speaker 1: Why would anyone know what to do? Why would anyone
Speaker 1: expect this to happen? And honestly, I feel like we
Speaker 1: make a huge deal of this. This was interesting, it
Speaker 1: was shocking, it was funny, it was horrible, and we
Speaker 1: move on. I thought it was great. I thought it
Speaker 1: was great. It was let's be very honest. None of
Speaker 1: us were watching the Oscars before this happened. None. Why
Speaker 1: do I know what coda is? Why do I know
Speaker 1: all the words of the song there in Kantos songs? Why?
Speaker 1: Why did I looked up Belfast? Okay, the only reason
Speaker 1: I did so is simply because Will Smith smacked Chris
Speaker 1: Rock live at the Oscars. I'm so sorry. It was
Speaker 1: just great television. And even Chris Rock himself says right
Speaker 1: after it happens, after they're a little bit of back
Speaker 1: and forth, this is the greatest night in television history.
Speaker 1: Will Smith just smacked the ship out of me. This
Speaker 1: is the greatest night in television history. Hey, Kanye Wess,
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift, hold my beer, Hold my beer. This is
Speaker 1: the greatest night in television history. Right here. Also this
Speaker 1: is in the Academy started disciplinary proceedings against Will Smith today,
Speaker 1: and expulsion is on the table according to variety, which
Speaker 1: would be which would be out of bounce, which would
Speaker 1: be completely out of bounce. How So, because first of all,
Speaker 1: this is this is the reason, how likely is this
Speaker 1: to happen again? It's extremely unlikely to have happened. That
Speaker 1: to happen, right, it was extremely unlikely to happen in
Speaker 1: the first place, and even more exponentially extremely to have
Speaker 1: happen again. Number two, take the source. This isn't Gucci
Speaker 1: Man who went on stage and smacked Chris Rock in
Speaker 1: the face. Okay, this is Will Smith. If Will Smith
Speaker 1: hasn't built up enough human currency in order to be
Speaker 1: forgiven at some point, then none of us are saying.
Speaker 1: And so I'm not saying. I'm not saying lock him up,
Speaker 1: and clearly there's no charges being just lock him up,
Speaker 1: you can. And Will Smith, he's a nice guy. He's
Speaker 1: a nice guy. He's got money he's the fresh prince.
Speaker 1: He shouldn't have any penalties. I'm not saying, to be
Speaker 1: very fair, he has a huge penalty. His first oscar
Speaker 1: Win is marred forever and overshadowed by his momentary lapse
Speaker 1: of judgment and his reaction. And this is a person
Speaker 1: whose brand means more to him than anything else, because
Speaker 1: he's done such a great job of building such a fine,
Speaker 1: such a wonderful friendly image and streaming it and it's
Speaker 1: not being performative a lot of young fans. And let's
Speaker 1: be honest, the academy dropped the ball by by nothing happening,
Speaker 1: by him going back to his seat and sitting there.
Speaker 1: There should have been something. What should have they should
Speaker 1: have taken No, they should have escorted him out of
Speaker 1: the out of the area. And if he won, he wins,
Speaker 1: and he hears about it on from a from a
Speaker 1: text and he zooms in. I disagree with I disagree
Speaker 1: with that assessment. I think that this was this was
Speaker 1: a momentary labs of judgment. It's between two people who
Speaker 1: not only have a friendship but a history, and honestly,
Speaker 1: Chris rock wasn't a person who was If Chris Rockets
Speaker 1: said I don't feel safe. I want will Smith out
Speaker 1: of here. That would be different. But he did know
Speaker 1: such things, as far as we know from every account,
Speaker 1: he did know such things. He understood the situation, and
Speaker 1: even though he was clearly not happy with the situation,
Speaker 1: no one is happy with getting smacked in the face. However,
Speaker 1: they were both people and it was between two individuals.
Speaker 1: The only reason we're having this discussion right now is
Speaker 1: because it happened on live television under a microscope. And
Speaker 1: all of us who hate being judged, by the way,
Speaker 1: because I personally I live in a glass house and
Speaker 1: I'm not without saying so I hate coustin stones. All
Speaker 1: of us love judging what happened. Now do I condone
Speaker 1: what will Smith did not? At all? Will Smith was wrong, period.
Speaker 1: There is no justification for what he did whatsoever. In fact,
Speaker 1: as a child, we learned to keep our hands to ourselves.
Speaker 1: He should have never done that. However, However, understanding understanding
Speaker 1: something is different than condoning it. And this played out,
Speaker 1: so you're not you're not a fan of of said it?
Speaker 1: So he said an example to people. Right. His son
Speaker 1: even tweeted out, that's how we do it. So he
Speaker 1: said an example to all his young fans. So with
Speaker 1: no real repercussion besides, oh the agony of having my
Speaker 1: Oscar Win tainted? Are you okay with with no example
Speaker 1: being said? The oscars? They dropped the ball too. I'll
Speaker 1: get it's no, but not no one's cleaning this whole thing.
Speaker 1: But do you think with no repercussion that's a safe
Speaker 1: way to proceed? Are you not a fan of leading
Speaker 1: by example? So as a as a comedian, and when
Speaker 1: comedians bring up, oh, now, should we be afraid of
Speaker 1: people coming up on stage and hitting us? First of all,
Speaker 1: I'd like to say, uh. And a lot of quote
Speaker 1: unquote urban comedy rooms, unfortunately, things that this nature tend
Speaker 1: to happen sometimes, and it's a horrible situation. That's number one.
Speaker 1: Never is the person of Will Smith, And a lot
Speaker 1: of mainstream comedy rooms things like this tend to happen.
Speaker 1: So this isn't like comedians haven't dealt with something like this,
Speaker 1: and it's a horrible, horrible situation. Anyone who uses this
Speaker 1: as a precedent or an excuse to now feel safe
Speaker 1: to do this was just looking for an excuse. The
Speaker 1: only person we should all be afraid of as all
Speaker 1: the means say, is Kanye Now that Kanye thinks this
Speaker 1: is okay, Pete Davidson should duck and hide. But other
Speaker 1: than that, to be very fair, most of us will
Speaker 1: never ever endure something like this because most people understand.
Speaker 1: And this isn't like it was a random joke by
Speaker 1: a random comedian to a random person, but this is
Speaker 1: people who have a history. Now, if I was on stage,
Speaker 1: I said something very personal to Lea Lamar and for
Speaker 1: Leah didn't didn't know about Jada's alopecia. But most of
Speaker 1: us in that form and that in that trending culture
Speaker 1: and zite guys, we all knew about it because she's
Speaker 1: been very vocal about it and how much it's hurt her.
Speaker 1: Most of us need to be fair. I don't know
Speaker 1: about any celebrity drum or any celebrity conditions like I
Speaker 1: don't really follow along, which I completely understand, and that's
Speaker 1: and that's the thing. But Chris Rock is a very
Speaker 1: knowledgeable comedian and and once again I don't think Chris
Speaker 1: Rock was wrong. I'm not a fan of it's too soon,
Speaker 1: you can't make a joke about that. I'm not a
Speaker 1: fan of that at all. That is how the freedom
Speaker 1: of speech works. If you do not believe in the
Speaker 1: freedom of speech for those you disdain, you do not
Speaker 1: believe in the freedom of speech. However, freedom of speech
Speaker 1: does not mean freedom from consequences, and in this case
Speaker 1: the consequence was not justifiable whatsoever. However, the punishment punishing
Speaker 1: Will Smith now even more will do what do they
Speaker 1: want to find him? I completely understand the fine. If
Speaker 1: two NBA players get into a fight, we find them.
Speaker 1: We don't ban one or expel one for the rest
Speaker 1: of their lives for something that you do, expel them
Speaker 1: for the rest of the season. The malice in the palace,
Speaker 1: those guys were that's because they took on and beat
Speaker 1: up fans. They beat up like thirty people. Technically, technically,
Speaker 1: Chris Rock was there doing his job. However, this is
Speaker 1: the thing. If Will Smith had went and started beating
Speaker 1: up people in the state, I would say, you're right,
Speaker 1: this is a menace. If he started beating up security
Speaker 1: when they came to detain him, I would say, you're right.
Speaker 1: This is two basketball players, two people on the field
Speaker 1: who got into an altercation. And just because you're not
Speaker 1: used to seeing that between these two people, or or
Speaker 1: or in this particular situation, uniform. Yes. And here's the
Speaker 1: thing I agree with you. I do. I've never looked
Speaker 1: at this like, oh my god, now comedians are gonna
Speaker 1: like it's open season on comedians. I've never I haven't
Speaker 1: seen it, looked at this and thought that. But where
Speaker 1: I come from is it is a different perspective here
Speaker 1: is that. Okay, Chris Rock was was bullied growing up,
Speaker 1: and granted, people say, well, he comes out slinging jokes
Speaker 1: that people find But as I said, these people have fans.
Speaker 1: Will Smith has fans, right, he has young fans this
Speaker 1: and that, and by the way, trigger stuff, Okay, I
Speaker 1: think less people are were, at least from my perspective,
Speaker 1: a majority of the people that I know were more
Speaker 1: enraged by the fact that he got up, accepted as
Speaker 1: award and played a victim I'm protecting my family, and
Speaker 1: he got a standing ovation and then he went into
Speaker 1: and he used trigger phrases for domestic violence. Right, love
Speaker 1: will make you do crazy things. How many women that
Speaker 1: have been abused by their husband have been told that afterwards?
Speaker 1: Like that's I think what what got people. It wasn't
Speaker 1: so much that if he slapped him and then they
Speaker 1: were like, okay, well that's over. But when he got
Speaker 1: up and played the victim, I think it hit a
Speaker 1: lot of people the wrong way. Yeah. I also just
Speaker 1: want to quickly interrupt um this crime of passion about
Speaker 1: to happen between the two of you. But apparently Variety
Speaker 1: said that the Academy asked Will Smith to leave and
Speaker 1: he refused. I think it's interesting that they didn't force
Speaker 1: him to leave, they asked him to leave. The thing.
Speaker 1: The other thing is that Will Smith has built up
Speaker 1: enough social grace at this point and trust with not
Speaker 1: only the Academy in the entertainment industry, but also with
Speaker 1: the world at large that I don't think you just
Speaker 1: say Will Smith, you have to leave. I think you
Speaker 1: say Will Smith, would you mind leaving? And then he
Speaker 1: says no, and then you say, okay, I guess we
Speaker 1: did our part the academy. The Academy is saying this
Speaker 1: after the fact. We don't know who asked or how
Speaker 1: it was asked or and Will Smith refusing. Was it like, hey,
Speaker 1: Will do you want to come outside? And it's like no,
Speaker 1: I'm cool, and that was their understanding. We don't know
Speaker 1: the phrasing. We don't know everything, and you did have
Speaker 1: Denzel and Bradley Cooper talking to him and be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: he's the calm, he's calmed down. Like so you don't know.
Speaker 1: And it goes back to that amusement park thing you
Speaker 1: talked about. Sometimes you got this person, it's like, hey,
Speaker 1: you can't do this, and then you get nervous and
Speaker 1: like we all sit back and think, oh, yeah, I
Speaker 1: would have told him to leave. Well you wouldn't. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have looked at Will Smith and been like, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna drag you out of here, because shop you're probably intimidated.
Speaker 1: It's Will Smith. He just had Denzel and Bradley Cooper
Speaker 1: in the corner of the ring being like, all right,
Speaker 1: you ready for round two. That's that's how We'll Noah
Speaker 1: made it. When someone invites me into their A list
Speaker 1: celebrity circle to comfort them after they've publicly assaulted another celebrity,
Speaker 1: I do think that no goals, you gonna have them. No,
Speaker 1: it's the thing. I do think that Will Smith is
Speaker 1: facing his own form of punishment. He knows what he
Speaker 1: was doing was wrong. As for Jaden, I mean for
Speaker 1: for us to use Jaden's word For all we know,
Speaker 1: Jaden was listening to the song this is how we
Speaker 1: do it. I don't know. I don't want to put
Speaker 1: that out there. However, let's assumed that Jaden was tweeting
Speaker 1: about this, you know why, because that's his mom. For us,
Speaker 1: it's just Jada Pinkett. That's his mom. That's his mom.
Speaker 1: And when people say, well, look, he used this trigger
Speaker 1: trigger phrase honestly, or was he using a phrase that's
Speaker 1: a calm and love will make you do crazy things
Speaker 1: if you say something in a sweet way, and it's
Speaker 1: kind of like if you take something out of context.
Speaker 1: That's why content is. If you take something out of context,
Speaker 1: it's not just content. If you have a grandparent who's like,
Speaker 1: come here, I love you. You're so sweet and I
Speaker 1: want to kiss you all over, and then you take
Speaker 1: that same and it's like, hey, I love you, I
Speaker 1: want to kiss you all over. You're like, oh, look
Speaker 1: at this, look at this criminal pedophile, while on the
Speaker 1: other hand, it's just a sweet grandmother. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: what he said was premeditated. What I'm saying is that
Speaker 1: is what I think has gotten people like I think
Speaker 1: to see that happen, and then for him to play
Speaker 1: a victim and have and have some people be like, oh,
Speaker 1: he looked at me as being a defender. It's like
Speaker 1: that's tough for some people to swallow. And I think
Speaker 1: that's I don't think the anger has been like okay,
Speaker 1: open season on comedians, no no holds bar, no rules.
Speaker 1: I think it's like, oh, he did something he shouldn't
Speaker 1: have done. He did something that's wrong, and then he
Speaker 1: took his other angle and then he went dancing to
Speaker 1: his own song at the after party. There was no remorse.
Speaker 1: So I think that's why. What did you want? You
Speaker 1: want him to cry in the car? You wanted to
Speaker 1: send a cry in the car. Let's not. Let's not
Speaker 1: do that, because all of us have done something bad
Speaker 1: and then gone to seven eleven in an hour after that,
Speaker 1: like none of us just sit around. And he didn't
Speaker 1: go to seven eleven. He put the party, he won
Speaker 1: an oscar, and there's nothing you can do with I'll
Speaker 1: be I'll be honest if that was me, If that
Speaker 1: was me, maybe I would go to the party, maybe,
Speaker 1: but I would probably be pretty somber. I would be
Speaker 1: feeling pretty shitty about what I did, especially if I
Speaker 1: spent my whole career, building up to an image and
Speaker 1: shattered it. Did you see everything he did? The whole party?
Speaker 1: You saw? So you saw all three hours he was
Speaker 1: at the park. That's not what I said. That's not
Speaker 1: what I said. You saw one moment where people might
Speaker 1: have been like, hey, will come on, man, let's wait,
Speaker 1: and then he starts celebrating. And when he's where that
Speaker 1: there's cameras everywhere. A man up his entire career to
Speaker 1: look to be be so good and be so I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I'm just so against this. And I have a lot
Speaker 1: of different different situations scenarios because I think there's a
Speaker 1: cultural component in this and this that a lot of
Speaker 1: quote unquote mainstream America is not taking into account. This
Speaker 1: was street. This was street behavior that you haven't seen
Speaker 1: in your lives on and it shouldn't have been on TV.
Speaker 1: And this wasn't the place and time and for people
Speaker 1: that you don't think are street, but they kind of are,
Speaker 1: regardless if you know this about them or not. This
Speaker 1: was This was also something even when he said keep
Speaker 1: my wife's name out your now, that's something that's a
Speaker 1: common phrasing. People are like picking on that phrasing. Why
Speaker 1: would it. I can't. That's something that is said within
Speaker 1: the especially in a hip hop in the hip hop community,
Speaker 1: and in the black community. It's something that's said regardless
Speaker 1: of if everyone else in America is aware of it
Speaker 1: or not. And his behavior. I hate looking at someone
Speaker 1: and going look at this liver. We know everything about
Speaker 1: this person. Will Smith, if anything has should have at
Speaker 1: least earned our our benefit of the doubt. Hey Will
Speaker 1: Smith and let him speak on it, which he did.
Speaker 1: He apologized there and then the next day he apologized
Speaker 1: to Chris Rock. And that's something we would do because
Speaker 1: of what we're all human. And I will tell you something, Dmitri,
Speaker 1: to be honest to me, this was an incident that
Speaker 1: happened and we all watched and it was interesting. This
Speaker 1: says way more about us as people than it does
Speaker 1: about because us and how we're judging and how we're looking,
Speaker 1: and how we're so quick to condemn, and how we're
Speaker 1: so quick to throw daggers and darts and place blame
Speaker 1: and just be like this happened, and this happened, and
Speaker 1: we all know all of these things has a lot
Speaker 1: to say about us. There are people who are like,
Speaker 1: for felony assault, then you don't know what a felony is. Okay,
Speaker 1: So all of these things put into perspective. This is television.
Speaker 1: We call it show business, and this was just a
Speaker 1: part of show business. And to be honest, the only
Speaker 1: investigation the Academy show have is how they can have
Speaker 1: something like this happened every year because it was great
Speaker 1: for their show. It was great for their show. And
Speaker 1: while the Academy is so busy investigating this, I want
Speaker 1: them to investigate Oscar so White, which is a part
Speaker 1: of it, because let's be honest, there are times where
Speaker 1: people of color, And do I think that Will Smith
Speaker 1: should have even won an Oscar for King Richard? No?
Speaker 1: I watched King Richard. Clearly he's like maybe the fifth
Speaker 1: best actor in that movie. This was not the performance.
Speaker 1: This was his training day to Denzel's Academy Award win
Speaker 1: where it's like, not for this all the maybe Malcolm X,
Speaker 1: maybe Hurricane, maybe Philadelphia, but not for this. So do
Speaker 1: I think that Will Smith should have won? No? But
Speaker 1: with Oscar so White, and we have that situation and
Speaker 1: people don't realize it's overshadowing that that's something we should
Speaker 1: be talking about a lot more. Plus On top of that,
Speaker 1: not Latin X community and Asian communities aren't being fairly
Speaker 1: given Oscars either, especially the Latin X community, which should
Speaker 1: be the most mad because the award is called the Oscars.
Speaker 1: If there was an award called the Jamal's and black
Speaker 1: people didn't win, I'd be Hella, Matt. I'd be like,
Speaker 1: are you serious? We can't even win a Jamal? We
Speaker 1: can't even win a Jamal? Yes, um, no comment, but
Speaker 1: I will say if there was an award show called
Speaker 1: the Goldberg's and no Jews one, I would have been
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, how mad, how mad? How matt should
Speaker 1: Jewish people be all the time? We're mad all the
Speaker 1: time about everything. Yeah, I'm mad when I see movies
Speaker 1: which are supposed to be about Jewish people and somehow
Speaker 1: the main person. How many times have I talked about Masiel?
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't keep talking about this. I need
Speaker 1: a new storyline. Also, just so everyone knows, Tehran is
Speaker 1: Jewish and he's the one who drags me to synagogue.
Speaker 1: That is also true story. I would not go to
Speaker 1: temple if it wasn't for him. That's number one. Number two.
Speaker 1: Just a quick side note, Chris Rock is going to
Speaker 1: be performing in Boston tonight and a lot of people
Speaker 1: are wondering if he's going to speak on the incident.
Speaker 1: What do you guys think? I think Chris Rock Will
Speaker 1: I think Chris Rock. Knowing Chris Rock. There are no phones,
Speaker 1: there are no videos allowed. They take your phones when
Speaker 1: you go in. W Smith Rose jokes. I don't think
Speaker 1: there'll be Rose chokes. But he's going to say something.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to go in. I think
Speaker 1: he has a lot of respect for Will Smith. And
Speaker 1: even though this was a horrible incident, I'm telling you
Speaker 1: as a person who slaps a person once a month,
Speaker 1: I'm letting you know that you can be best friends.
Speaker 1: We're not talking about just in the bedroom. By the way,
Speaker 1: just to let you all know, Lea Lamar on her
Speaker 1: Instagram has one of the funniest videos in regards to
Speaker 1: the Will Smith Chris Rock smack that I have seen online.
Speaker 1: And there have been a lot of funny things on
Speaker 1: you go on. What was the video about? It was
Speaker 1: very funny. You have to go watch it. Just go
Speaker 1: watch it. Just go to at Lea Lamar and you
Speaker 1: will find it. And I'm telling you right now as
Speaker 1: horrible as this was for one comedian, it was amazing.
Speaker 1: For the rest of us, it was amazing for comedy.
Speaker 1: I also just have to say, by the way, a
Speaker 1: lot of people mixing the situation low key abop, like
Speaker 1: this is low key abop. I don't know what else
Speaker 1: to say. You know, it's crazy. There's somebody who's going
Speaker 1: to lose their virginity to that song. I just want
Speaker 1: to let you know. Oh my god, I think Chris
Speaker 1: will talk about it. I don't. I don't think he's
Speaker 1: gonna go in I don't think he's gonna go in
Speaker 1: and roast yet. I know. I think he'll do some
Speaker 1: I think it'll be good stuff, but I think it'll
Speaker 1: be very uh, just around the edges. Yeah. He hasn't
Speaker 1: made a comment. He hasn't come out. Even there was
Speaker 1: a there was a type of a statement that was
Speaker 1: circulating and his pr came out and vehemently denied that
Speaker 1: it was from him. He has not made a single statement,
Speaker 1: not a single comment on this situation, And I honestly
Speaker 1: think that's what's best because right now Chris Rock is winning.
Speaker 1: Chris Raw is winning his sold out show. By the way,
Speaker 1: he already sells out, they're selling out even more. Chris
Speaker 1: Rock is winning and his this is what I said.
Speaker 1: My first thought is what is he promoting? Because he's
Speaker 1: going to start annihilating sales Chris Rock. And that's the
Speaker 1: thing I always I'm telling the other comedians, because I'll
Speaker 1: see comedians and it'll be like open my comedians who
Speaker 1: were like, oh no, people are gonna hit me. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you're not really funny enough for anyone to get up
Speaker 1: and smack you in the face. Now, if they get up,
Speaker 1: it's because they're leaving to go someplace because you are
Speaker 1: so unfunny. I mean. I also remember seeing Chris Rock
Speaker 1: when I was a kid and his HBO special. I
Speaker 1: just remember him laughing at his own jokes, and he
Speaker 1: was in this beautiful black suit, and I remember thinking,
Speaker 1: I'm too young to be watching this and this is inappropriate,
Speaker 1: but I couldn't look away, and I remember saying, Wow,
Speaker 1: he's the funniest person on the earth. By the way,
Speaker 1: the big takeaway, how about the fact that he's fifty
Speaker 1: seven years old and he took the smack like a champions.
Speaker 1: Whether it's the boat chops in him or the New
Speaker 1: York City he took this night like a champ. Now
Speaker 1: right back up, stayed professional, made a joke and then
Speaker 1: still made a comment on it and kept it moving,
Speaker 1: and then went into introducing me a warrant and he
Speaker 1: was stumbled a little. But he's the definition of the
Speaker 1: show must go on. I think that is years and
Speaker 1: years and years and years and years of experience. Or also,
Speaker 1: Will Smith is trauma trauma like six ft two muscles
Speaker 1: like it's not it's not like. I don't know if
Speaker 1: this was instead of Chris Rocket, was Dwayne the Rock,
Speaker 1: like would Will Smith has still done the same thing?
Speaker 1: I don't know, possibly because at that moment, you know,
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of speculation of Will laughing and
Speaker 1: then what happened between the laugh and getting Jada and
Speaker 1: looking at her look and you know, I don't like
Speaker 1: to blame Jada for things, but well, I mean, that's
Speaker 1: your wife, though that's his wife. They've been married for
Speaker 1: better or for worse, and for whatever. We love to
Speaker 1: judge the Red Table conversations ridge twenty five years and
Speaker 1: whether they're happy or not, that's not for us to judge.
Speaker 1: But they have figured it out in twenty five years.
Speaker 1: In Hollywood, is two thousand five years anywhere. This is
Speaker 1: still death do them part. So to my discredit, I
Speaker 1: turned to my wife at that moment. I said, listen,
Speaker 1: I gotta be honest. If someone said that about you,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't get up. And but also I think we
Speaker 1: have to know that Will didn't actually want to do damage,
Speaker 1: because if you wanted to, he would have punched him.
Speaker 1: He would have. And and I'll tell you something very real.
Speaker 1: Leah and I are very close friends. If someone said
Speaker 1: something to Leah that was I felt like out of
Speaker 1: line or disrespectful. And I'm not saying this. I don't
Speaker 1: want any labels of what this would come from. But
Speaker 1: I would smack the ship out of them. And that's
Speaker 1: a real thing. And I and that's when you punch them.
Speaker 1: And I'm noticing that, you know, because punching, punching is
Speaker 1: that's actually what people don't. They're like, he smacked him,
Speaker 1: he should have punched him. Actually punching his way, it's
Speaker 1: it's more aggressive and assault like and it's way less disrespectful.
Speaker 1: And what Will Smith was trying to do was get
Speaker 1: a point across. And that's when, once again, in that
Speaker 1: street mentality, you slap someone in the face and you've
Speaker 1: heard it's it's actually a phrase that said, it's something
Speaker 1: that's said in conjunction, would keep bleep in certain names
Speaker 1: out of your mouth like it's really it's really what
Speaker 1: I would like to term street behavior, and I don't
Speaker 1: like giving. And it's not race. It's not a race.
Speaker 1: It's not black culture because this would happen in the
Speaker 1: streets of Idaho and Alabama and anywhere where there's a
Speaker 1: lack of black people as well. So this is it's
Speaker 1: part of the street culture where Les Philadelphia born and raised.
Speaker 1: If his mom sent him to bell Air for the
Speaker 1: one little fight, I don't know where his mom's gonna
Speaker 1: send him now. But well, I was in bel Air
Speaker 1: last night and I was afraid Will Smith was going
Speaker 1: to smack the ship out of me. As yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: not afraid. But what I got out of your little
Speaker 1: diet tribe is that you won't go to jail for me.
Speaker 1: So good day, sir. If he goes to jail, he
Speaker 1: won't admit it. As we saw before we talk, I
Speaker 1: will never talk to about why. I will never talk
Speaker 1: about why. No one shook jail is not cool, it's
Speaker 1: not fun. It's not a rite of passage. There's nothing
Speaker 1: good about jail. I was there for a month, you know.
Speaker 1: The The one thing I do feel like, it's not
Speaker 1: this is a different episode. The one thing I feel
Speaker 1: that that we did miss and and just from a
Speaker 1: comedic standpoint, is at the very end, right before Chris
Speaker 1: Rock went back to his thing, he went, yeah, and
Speaker 1: knowing how Chrick, how quick Chris is, you know, he
Speaker 1: had something that he wanted, a joke they were never
Speaker 1: gonna hear. He had august alsin a joke. He had
Speaker 1: like fifty jokes, and honestly, that's the one thing that's
Speaker 1: a comedian I'm sure anguished them the most is when
Speaker 1: he went home and thought about all the things he
Speaker 1: he he definitely could have said and didn't. So on
Speaker 1: my take, it's like Chris Rock was not wrong, but
Speaker 1: could have been better. Will Smith was definitely wrong and
Speaker 1: should have been better. And then of all people, Jada
Speaker 1: Pinkett was right, and all these things just went left
Speaker 1: and we should just do you believe that Amy Schumer
Speaker 1: wrote that joke? That's the word on the street. I
Speaker 1: don't think Amy Schumer writes a lot of jokes, So
Speaker 1: for her to have written that joke. No, honestly, honestly,
Speaker 1: that the whole the behind the stage. And once again
Speaker 1: all the people were like, well, I researched and I know.
Speaker 1: And it's like, no, you don't. You're a Google works
Speaker 1: just as well as my Google. We're all just googling
Speaker 1: this and learning things, second, third, fourth hand. None of
Speaker 1: us know the truth or what really happened or even
Speaker 1: their mindsets, let alone any of these intimate facts that
Speaker 1: people are using as evidence against or for them. Right,
Speaker 1: can we just say it was a bad joke. It
Speaker 1: wasn't a great joke joke. I didn't even honestly get it.
Speaker 1: That was funny. I thought it was funny, but not amazing.
Speaker 1: It was like I get it, and you know what
Speaker 1: made it funny. And Chris rock knew is when he
Speaker 1: threw it away, he said, hey, it's it's a g I.
Speaker 1: Jane Jogglee is like, this isn't bad. This isn't a
Speaker 1: bad one. Like he's like, I'm poking fun at something.
Speaker 1: And for people who are like he made fun of
Speaker 1: the way she looked he did it. Jane has strong,
Speaker 1: beautiful and bald, and Jada Pinkett Smith a strong beautiful
Speaker 1: in bold, and that's where that it's not actually a
Speaker 1: dig unless you take it that way. But once again,
Speaker 1: I don't know what goes on in their homes. I
Speaker 1: don't know if Jada Pinkett has been crying and been
Speaker 1: hurt and fragile and insecure and distraught and destroyed over this.
Speaker 1: And I'm her husband who's been there and the and
Speaker 1: she's the mother of my children. And it's been twenty
Speaker 1: five years and Chris Rock has made digs at her
Speaker 1: before and she's been like, I hate him, I hate
Speaker 1: how he does this, and then you're in the situation
Speaker 1: and you just get so deep in you can't back out. Now.
Speaker 1: I've been in situations where I've done something where I
Speaker 1: wish I could take back, but once it's happened, it's like, Yo,
Speaker 1: this just happened. It is what it is. And now
Speaker 1: I doubled down. Now I doubled down, and this is
Speaker 1: why we're getting married. And I'm just kidding. Oh, I
Speaker 1: was saying, Yeah, she didn't get the response you wanted,
Speaker 1: and she kind of frozen every down really quickly. But
Speaker 1: that was that was real. This has been enough for
Speaker 1: It's not going to be a g I Jane too
Speaker 1: write that was just I'm anticipating it now. By the way,
Speaker 1: during this have I mentioned how I'm black in person?
Speaker 1: And guys include conclusion for today, I didn't have a
Speaker 1: coffee yet today, which is um why I've been not
Speaker 1: being able to say words be boop. Uh. This is
Speaker 1: my Literally it says witches brew on it. And this
Speaker 1: should be a crime. No one should have a cup
Speaker 1: that says witches brew on it. Uh. My saying in
Speaker 1: the world is no coffee not working and Dmitri nos.
Speaker 1: Anytime I've been asked to work before noon, it's a
Speaker 1: it's going to be a hard Not even two thirty
Speaker 1: was early. But I just want to say I loved
Speaker 1: watching your Lover's Quarrel today. Thank you gentlemen. It was
Speaker 1: really beautiful. I enjoyed talking a lot during that. And
Speaker 1: this has been another episode of really I'm where two
Speaker 1: men don't let one woman speak and uh, it's it's fine, Um,
Speaker 1: it's noted at. The real crime that is the real
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