1 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: Saguon. Barkley's first season in Philly was a ten. Now 2 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: number twenty six is also in the. 3 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 2: Ninety nine club. 4 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:19,159 Speaker 1: Squon joins us tonight to talk about landing on the 5 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: new Madden cover. The Eagles hopes to go back to 6 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: back and so much more. Packers also have high hopes 7 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty five, but do they need more from 8 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: their quarterback? Mark Ross will be here to tell you 9 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,959 Speaker 1: what he wants to see from Jordan Love as a 10 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: third year starter. Other teams are counting on some second 11 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: year leaps even from players a clear day pretty high 12 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: bar as rookies. JEF Virginia will break down whose arrow 13 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: is pointed up? But first us welcome inside with the 14 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: insiders alongside Ian Rappaport, I am Tom Peliicero. 15 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 2: It is June second. We are ninety four. 16 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: Days away from kickoff to the twenty five NFL season, 17 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: and for the first time on this show we can 18 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 1: officially say we will be in training camps next month. 19 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: For now, we are still in the voluntary portion of 20 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: the calendar for OTAs. And look who des signed to 21 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: get off the boat and walk onto the field. 22 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 2: It is Stefan Diggs. 23 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 1: The Patriots veteran wide receiver making an appearance at OTA's today. 24 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: They signed into a three year, sixty three point five 25 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: million dollar deal back in March. Again, this is a 26 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 1: voluntary portion of the calendar here Ian but number one, 27 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 1: no brace on Stefan Diggs. That certainly seems like a 28 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: good sign at this point in his recovery from the. 29 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: Torn acl A. Number two. 30 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: Let's just say, showing up today probably could be filed 31 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 1: on what Mike Rabel might say is a good decision. 32 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 3: Right, And I would say, look, OTAs are not mandatory. 33 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 3: We know that there's plenty of players we're gonna talk 34 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 3: about him in a second who have not shown up 35 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 3: to voluntary OTAs, and it is totally fine Stefan Diggs 36 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 3: showing up today felt about history as they could be. After, 37 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 3: of course, the viral video over the last several days 38 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 3: of Stefan Diggs on a boat with many women, including 39 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 3: Cardi b including an envelope with some pink stuff that 40 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 3: I don't have any idea what that is, and you 41 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 3: would hope that he doesn't either. But that's a whole 42 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 3: different conversation for a whole different day. Mike Frable addressed 43 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 3: this last week, saying he was aware of the viral video. 44 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 3: Talks to his players every day, but yeah, they want 45 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 3: the players to make sound decisions. Him showing up, him 46 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 3: getting in line, him expressing what, of course he needed 47 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 3: to express to the team right to their faces, was 48 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 3: all very good thing. Now, my understanding is the team 49 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 3: does not plan to cut Stefan Diggs. He's a very 50 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 3: good player. They intend to pay him a lot of money. 51 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 3: They haven't yet. They intend to pay him a lot 52 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 3: of money, especially after he passed the physical from his 53 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 3: ACL recovery. He does seem to be on track. This 54 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 3: is a player they want to keep, want to be 55 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 3: making plays for them. That's why they signed him in 56 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 3: free agency to such fanfare. Just got to be better, 57 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 3: and this was a step in the right direction for Diggs. 58 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 3: It's certainly something the Patriots welcome. 59 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: I was gonna do a few guys now, though, that 60 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: are not currently at the voluntary OTAs, including one who 61 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: certainly has strong reasons for not being there. Trey Hendrickson 62 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: not present with the Cincinnati Bengals during OTAs. He showed 63 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: up a couple of weeks ago to an open practice 64 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: made abudly clear that he's not going to play on 65 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: his current contract, which owes him sixteen million dollars this year. 66 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: There have been ongoing talks ian, but they're not there 67 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: yet on a new deal. Next big checkpoint comes next 68 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: week when coach Zach Tiller has already made clear Trey 69 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: Hendrickson doesn't show up, he's getting fined. 70 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 3: Not the only edge rushers seeking a new deal, not 71 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 3: President at Otz. This one's been a lot quieter than 72 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 3: Trey Henderson. Hendrickson has been on all of the shows. 73 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 3: Pat mcabee went to his locker, all of the things 74 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 3: to express his discomfort. TJ Watt. All he's done is 75 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 3: take to Instagram and offer the peace sign. What he 76 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 3: wants is more years on his contract, wants more money, 77 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 3: believes he has earned it. I wouldn't be surprised if 78 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 3: the deal goods done before the season, but we are 79 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 3: not there yet, So no TJ. Watt for the Steelers. 80 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: You know, Michaeh Parson's also in line for a deal 81 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: in the off season of the pass rusher. He's been 82 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: with the Cowboys on and off, which is kind of 83 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: how Micah has been. Brian Schottenheimer said Micah was not 84 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: present last week. But this is part of again the 85 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: process Parsons has gone through in the past. There's no 86 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: question that Parsons expects to get a top of market 87 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: type of contract. For the moment, he is still due 88 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: a little over twenty four million dollars on his fifth 89 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: year option. We also got seeing Kirk Cousins with the Falcons. 90 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 2: Recently. 91 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: We came up to yet another check boy among many 92 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: ian through the course of safseason, which is June first, 93 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: at which point any trades that occur after this you 94 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: can spread out the remaining cap hit over two years, 95 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: push it out into twenty twenty six. Though that doesn't 96 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: necessarily mean at this point that a Kirk Cousins straight 97 00:04:58,920 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: is in there. 98 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 3: Now it does not feel like good Kirk Cousins treads 99 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 3: him and it now. If the Pittsburgh Steelers do not 100 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 3: end up signing Aaron Rodgers, if he decides to retire 101 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 3: and wait for another team or something, then I would 102 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 3: say we would be looking very quickly at Kirk Cousins 103 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 3: and the Pittsburgh Steelers. But until it, unless that happens, 104 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 3: it does seem like this situation is going to be 105 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 3: right where it is, which is Kirk Cousins not that 106 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 3: thrilled to this situation, but much much richer because the 107 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 3: Falcons arenna end up giving him a hundred million dollars, 108 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 3: plus all of that has been guaranteed for his blockbuster 109 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 3: contract that had him as the starter for less than 110 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 3: one season. And look, it's weird Tom to have a 111 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 3: backup that makes over twenty million dollars. It almost never 112 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 3: happens this one to me, And you know this has 113 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 3: always made sense. They are already paying him. And the 114 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 3: only thing that really matters, assuming everyone can get along 115 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 3: inside the building, which you know you would hope would 116 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 3: be the case where he Morris is a very good 117 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 3: culture builder, the only thing that really matters is if 118 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 3: Michael Pennix gets hurt, can someone step in and win 119 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 3: games behind him? Kirk Cousins is now an excellent backup 120 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 3: quarterback unless there's some sort of quarterback injury that would 121 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 3: trigger something. I don't see that changing. 122 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: No reason to think they'd release Kirk Cousins either, certainly 123 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 1: not after getting to this point in the offseason. However, 124 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: same rules apply to cuts after June first, you can 125 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 1: spread out that cap hit over two years. Teams also 126 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: could designate certain releases to be post June one cap cuts. 127 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: You know these names, Aaron Rodgers, Davon Hargrave, Dalvin Tomlins, 128 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: and some of these guys already have new teams. However, 129 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: as of this morning, now they've gotten that additional salary 130 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: cap relief for the releasing teams, which is substantial when 131 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: you're talking about guys like Aaron Rodgers. The Lions also 132 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: gained some cap space today, but certainly not space that 133 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 1: they were looking to get. Frank Ragnow, the former All 134 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: Pro center, announcing on Instagram earlier today he is officially 135 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: retiring from the NFL. He said in part that he's 136 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: tried to convince himself I'm feeling good, but I'm not 137 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: and it's time to prioritize my health and my family's future. 138 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: That is certainly significant in the scope of the NFC North. 139 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: The Lions have had a lot of attrition in terms 140 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: of the coaching staff. They've had a lot of attrition 141 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: in terms of some of the player movement as well. 142 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: Losen Frank greg Now in early June is definitely another 143 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: thing that is going to weigh on exactly what direction 144 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: things go for them in twenty twenty five. Of course, 145 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: it was a very competitive division last year with the Lions, 146 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: with the Vikings, and with the Green Bay Packers. Jordan 147 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: Love is a player who Matt Lafleur was asked about 148 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: last week and up and down twenty twenty four season four, 149 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: the entire Packers team. Jordan Love got hurt in that 150 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: kickoff game in Brazil, missed a little bit of time, 151 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: was able to come back, and that's at least part 152 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: of the reason that perhaps Jordan Love didn't have the 153 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: breakout second season under center. 154 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 4: I think there's like a narrative out there that, for 155 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 4: whatever reason that he wasn't as productive as the year before. Well, 156 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 4: I mean he missed significant time. He missed the better 157 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 4: of three games. Really it was Indy, it was Tennessee, 158 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 4: he went out in Jacksonville, and then he went out 159 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 4: in Chicago. So you know that's gonna three games is 160 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 4: a significant amount of time. 161 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: That's a very kind way for Matt Laflora to say, Yeah, 162 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: don't ask me a question like that again. Let's welcome 163 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: in our Mark Ross to the conversation here. Mark, you've 164 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: watched Jordan Love, you saw him in year one and 165 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: what they were able to do last year there were 166 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: those bumps in the road, a lot of them health related. 167 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 2: When you look at Jordan Love, what did you see? 168 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 2: What are you hoping to get out of him? If 169 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 2: you're the Packers in twenty twenty five. 170 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,839 Speaker 5: Well, first of all, Matt laflord is doing what any 171 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 5: good head coach does with his franchise quarterback. Same thing 172 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 5: happened with me with Andy Reid, Donald McNabb, no matter 173 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 5: how bad Donovan played, and he said, that's my fault. 174 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 5: Tom caff and Eli, no matter how bady I played, 175 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 5: Tom Coughlin took that the brun of it. That's what 176 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 5: Matt Laflour is doing right now with Jordan Love. And 177 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 5: he mentioned the injuries early, but he got hurt later 178 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 5: on in the year as well, and it seemed like 179 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 5: a few other games he was banged up. Jordan Loved, 180 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 5: that is and I just never think he got fully healthy. 181 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 5: And the things to me that made Jordan Love special 182 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 5: are his unique timing and then the playmaking moving around 183 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 5: in the pocket or stepping around and manipulating the pocket. 184 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 5: And when I watched him, he just wasn't doing that 185 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 5: with a whole lot of confidence in those games, and 186 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 5: particularly down the stretch. 187 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 2: The last six games he on. 188 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 5: The highest he threw was for two hundred and twenty 189 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 5: nine yards versus Seattle, and then in that playoff game 190 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 5: against the Eagles, he was not good at all. So 191 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 5: there's no way that Lafloor and Jordan Love watched those 192 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 5: games and said, you know what, you look like the 193 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 5: guy that we saw last year who torched teams in 194 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 5: the playoffs against the Eagles, he threw for two to 195 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 5: twelve and three interceptions. 196 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 2: So I think with Jordan. 197 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 5: Love coming back healthy, we'll see more of the same 198 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 5: Jordan Love that we saw at the end of last season, 199 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 5: not the one we saw at the end of of 200 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 5: a twenty fourth season. 201 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, and health is so important here. You know, we 202 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 3: focus so much on our guy's an injury. Let's say 203 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 3: that's a two to four week injury, comes back in 204 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 3: three weeks are fun. So now he's playing rarely is 205 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 3: a guy absolutely fully healthy and one hundred percent ready 206 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 3: to go after missing time with an injury. It really 207 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 3: does take some time players have to get back into it. 208 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 3: It messes with timing, messes with a lot of things. 209 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 3: But one thing we've learned doing this as long as 210 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 3: we have people just forget that you're injured or maybe 211 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 3: don't care. And so for Jordan Love, he had a 212 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 3: couple of different injuries last year, was rarely healthy really 213 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 3: the entire season. But it's almost like when we're evaluating 214 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 3: how we played, we forget about that or don't care 215 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 3: about that. So, yes, I also would like to see 216 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 3: one hundred percent healthy Jordan Love continue to take some 217 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 3: steps that he seemed to be making two years ago. 218 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 3: Next step is to really take a team to the 219 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 3: next level on his shoulders. Certainly, he absolutely has the 220 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 3: talent to do that. 221 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 6: For Green Bay, Okay, it's me move. 222 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 2: Beats. 223 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: One man spends past another, leaps over a third. 224 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 2: What. 225 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 5: Owns I ain't never see. 226 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: No, no, we'd never seen anything like that. Now they're 227 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: seeing it. On the cover of Madden twenty six, the 228 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: official cover athlete for this year is Saquon Barkley, and 229 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: he's with us right now on the Insiders with me, 230 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: Tom Pellicero and Brian Baldiger. Saquon, congrats, man, I know 231 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: this is a dream for a lot of people. Everybody 232 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 1: you know plays this game, all the players in the 233 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 1: league played here. When you got that call, what's that 234 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: moment like to you. 235 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, when you get that call, you kind of 236 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 7: you don't know what to expect, right, and they actually 237 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 7: do you want to be part of Madding Cover? And 238 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 7: I don't know if anyone's ever turned that down. I 239 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 7: definitely wasn't going to turn that down to own retune. 240 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 7: But like you said, I know so many people and 241 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 7: so many kids out dream and would love to be 242 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 7: in a position I am right now. And I remember 243 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 7: as a kid, you know, wanted to be part of 244 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 7: Manic Cover, and then so many great players that have 245 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 7: been part of Mannic Cover, and now to be mentioned 246 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 7: and have my name attached with those guys, you know, 247 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 7: it just words really can't describe. 248 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 8: And you ware of the ninety nine to two saque 249 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 8: that's the Madden rating for you can't get any higher 250 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 8: than that. I got to ask you, I mean, as 251 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 8: far as you know, is that backwards leap is it 252 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 8: in the game this year's saque? I mean, can somebody 253 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 8: actually dial that leap up? Right now? 254 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 6: Yeah? 255 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 7: So funny story about that I was able to When 256 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 7: I was creating the shot for the cover, we had 257 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 7: a conversation about me doing the backwards leap and they 258 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 7: had a person do it before, and you know, they 259 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 7: took it out because they were like, no one's ever 260 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 7: going to actually do this in a game. And when 261 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 7: I did it, that's why they were able to turn 262 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 7: it over so fast because theyready had the animation for 263 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 7: it to do the backwards leap. So yes, it was 264 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 7: in the game last year and it will be in 265 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 7: the game this year. 266 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: So hang on, show that show that shot of making 267 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 1: it making the cover real quick against Saquon, because it 268 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: almost looks like you were suspended in air for a 269 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: couple of seconds. Are you on like the Broadway high wire? 270 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: Are they holding you up? Or you actually have this 271 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: type of body. 272 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 2: Control right here. 273 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 7: I would love to say I actually had that body control, 274 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 7: but I was just belying to you. I was strapped 275 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 7: in there and they're pulling me up, and you know, 276 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 7: I will say this though, that's when I realized the 277 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 7: play that I had when you know, I jumped over 278 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 7: with someone backwards, how special it was. When when we 279 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 7: had to recreate it, I was like, I don't know 280 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 7: if I feel comfortable doing this, Uh, just you know, 281 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 7: not in the midst of the game and we had 282 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 7: to put the wires on and do it. 283 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 2: It made me realize how special the play. 284 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 7: It was and made me grow so much more respect 285 00:13:55,920 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 7: for any superhero, spider Man, Superman, any of those guys, 286 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 7: as those actors or actresses that have to put that 287 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 7: on and perform. Shout out, Shout out to them. 288 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 8: Let's say, Cony, it's been an unbelievable season. I mean, 289 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 8: you put up two thousand plus yards, you win the 290 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 8: super Bowl, the super Bowl is on your twenty eighth birthday, 291 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,719 Speaker 8: and now you're on the cover of Madden. Like, what 292 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 8: else is going to happen in twenty twenty twenty five 293 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 8: for your sake? One, we got other news that's going 294 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 8: to be breaking here that can outdo any of these 295 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 8: other feats that you've accomplished this year. 296 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 2: I don't know. 297 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 7: I don't think we do as of now, but I 298 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 7: think you just mentioned it was a hell of a year. 299 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 7: Is a year that you dream about, is the year 300 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 7: that you trained for, And the beauty of it is 301 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 7: you have another opportunity to do it again. And that's 302 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 7: what the mindset kind of shifts to is learn from it. 303 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 7: Even though you had a great year, there's so many 304 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 7: plays and so many things I could continue to prove on. 305 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 7: You got to be obsessed with the little details and 306 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 7: locking into taking your game to another level. And when 307 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 7: it gets to the this point, it might only move 308 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 7: the needle a little bit, but anytime you can move 309 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 7: to leap the needle is going to help you. So 310 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 7: that's what the mindset is, not only for myself but 311 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 7: for our team is Yes, we did it. You know, 312 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 7: we reached to top of Mount Everest, but now we 313 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 7: all got to go back down and you know, try 314 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 7: to work away back up. 315 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: There's a lot of physical, mental, emotional hurdles just with 316 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: the condensed timeframe of the offseason. You lose like a 317 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: normal five weeks of off season time. Then of course 318 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: you got parades, you got celebrations and all the other 319 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: things here. It can have a real weight on people. 320 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: If you consulted anybody who's won a Super Bowl. But oh, okay, 321 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: how do I do this from every perspective and get 322 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: back there again? 323 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? 324 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 7: I mean I've been super blessed. And I was saying 325 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 7: this before, like I there's really not any legendary running 326 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 7: back or player I can't reach out to. And to me, 327 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 7: that's super cool because I'm a big fan of the 328 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 7: game and the history of the game, and you know, 329 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 7: just reaching out to them and learning how they continue 330 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 7: to get better when you make it to that level. 331 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 2: But the biggest thing for. 332 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 7: Me would be with my mentor and trainer, Ryan Flaherty. 333 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 7: He kind of told me that I need to take 334 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 7: it all in, like I need to celebrate. I tend to, 335 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 7: you know, try to move on things too quick, but 336 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 7: you know, I had to take a little bit of 337 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 7: time to you know, realize like what I had the 338 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 7: year prior and just the goals and all the things 339 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 7: that I had and the records I set. 340 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 2: You got to appreciate that. 341 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 7: You gotta you know, you got to take that in 342 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 7: and celebrate with your family and your friends, and then 343 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 7: once you do that, you can put it to bed 344 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 7: and move on. So that's probably the biggest thing for me. 345 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 7: It's just appreciating and realizing what you did. Now learn 346 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 7: from it and try to get better. 347 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 8: Sick when I dropped in on last week's OTA on Wednesday, 348 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 8: the indoor practice when it was raining outside, and I 349 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 8: was telling people and this is for Eagle fans out there, 350 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 8: sake one that as you know, are nuts. 351 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 2: But that was a. 352 00:16:55,720 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 8: Spirited OTA practice sake one, like the energy level. I 353 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 8: know it was indoors, but it felt like you guys 354 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 8: are hungry, Like it was a great turnout, It was 355 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 8: a great practice, and it just moves at a clip 356 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 8: like it's almost like everybody knows what they need to do. 357 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 8: Like I know it's a new offense in some ways, 358 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 8: Kevin Pittulo is going to be calling the plays, but 359 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 8: he's been there. Like, give me the feel of what 360 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 8: it's been like so far, just off season from and 361 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 8: I'm getting ready for the next year. 362 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 2: It's been great. It's been great. 363 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 7: We got guys coming in, buying in training really hard, 364 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 7: competing at a high level. The young guys that we 365 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 7: drafted and we brought in, you know, they're buying into 366 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 7: the culture right from the beginning. But the best way 367 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 7: I can answer that question is success is not accident. 368 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 7: We know the recipe, we know what we know what 369 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 7: it takes, so we can't skip any any steps to 370 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 7: get to where we want to get to. And last 371 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 7: OTA's it was the same thing. And we already know 372 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 7: how training camp is going to be, and we know 373 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 7: how it's going to be during the season. Like I said, 374 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 7: we know the recipe and We just got to try 375 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 7: to stick to it and a little bit of luck 376 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 7: when you know that comes in with staying healthy. If 377 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 7: we do that, with the talent that we have and 378 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 7: the coaches that we have, would be in a good position. 379 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 2: Last thing for you, quick sake. 380 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: One you said when they first called you, they said, 381 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: do you want to be a part of the Madden cover? 382 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: The only reason I can think of that anybody would 383 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: have pause in that moment would be the curse. It's 384 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: the Madden curse. Are you a believer in curses? Does 385 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 1: that factor into your headspace at all as you get 386 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: that call and know that your face is going to 387 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: be on that game. 388 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 7: Nah, I'm a believer in God. That's my mindset to 389 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 7: be good, play honest. And I've had injuries before. I 390 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 7: tore my knee. I've stepped on a foot and rolled 391 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 7: my ankle. Was out for four to six weeks and 392 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 7: there was no curse then. And that's just how life works. 393 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 7: You're gonna have your ups and downs. But my mindset 394 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 7: is coming in work, do what I need to do, 395 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 7: and the rest is in God's hands. 396 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: Sakeue, As Baldy was saying, it's been a heck of 397 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 1: a year for you man, keep it rolling. Can't wait 398 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: to see you out there on the field again in September. 399 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 7: Thank you so much, appreciate you guys. 400 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: Thanks Akeuon Sa Kwan Barkley Madden twenty six cover athlete 401 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: and just ninety four days away from being back on 402 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: the field. 403 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 2: September fourth. 404 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: It is Cowboys and Eagles in the kickoff game. 405 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 2: Well Brian shaw Neimer of MICHAELH. Parsons on the other 406 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 2: side of the ball in that game. 407 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 9: He was here last week, had lunch with him, actually 408 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 9: bumped into him in the airport. He was going to 409 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 9: do some traveling. So I have not seen him yet 410 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 9: this week. But again, my big thing with all the guys, 411 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 9: whether they're here or not, is you can get great 412 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 9: working and you can get ready and you can be 413 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 9: mentally prepared. But you know, whether you're Mic who's not 414 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 9: here here in and out, whether you're DAK, doesn't really matter. 415 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 9: You know, it's just put your work in, get ready. 416 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,199 Speaker 9: There's a lot of ways get ready and prepared. 417 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 3: Tims the season to say, is everyone in the building, 418 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 3: have they showed up, have you met with them? Why 419 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 3: are they practicing? That's where we're at in the calendar 420 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 3: right now, Jane Slater, welcome inside with the insiders. A 421 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 3: lot to get to with mikeh Parsions, but we're not 422 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 3: going to start there right now. What is happening now 423 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 3: with the Cowboys and you can tell me a little 424 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 3: more about this. I know that is some new faces 425 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 3: and new places. So why don't you introduce me to 426 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 3: some Cowboys that maybe we may not know, especially on 427 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 3: the defensive side of the ball. 428 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 10: One of my favorite things that coaches often say Ian 429 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 10: is we're focusing on the guys that are inside the building, 430 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 10: and when we focus on defense, one of the areas 431 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 10: that the Cowboys are still trying to shore up, I 432 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 10: believe is their cornerback position. There are issues last year 433 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 10: really found themselves in the problem areas as it related 434 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 10: to depth and a consistency and tackling consistency and dealing 435 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 10: with some of the man coverage that they were getting. 436 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 10: I mean, we start looking at this league and some 437 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 10: of the NFC East opponents, they've got real yard after 438 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 10: catch threats, and so that's why I think they're kind 439 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 10: of moving some of. 440 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:57,719 Speaker 2: These guys around. 441 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,719 Speaker 10: You know, Ibra Flus, who's now the defensive coordinator wants 442 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 10: fast and physical guys. Now we've seen them guse Izzy 443 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 10: Mukuamu their safety as their cornerback at times, especially in 444 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 10: Big Nickel looks. He's got these six to four long arms. 445 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 10: He's really disruptive in some of those passing lanes. They're 446 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 10: using him there a little bit at corner because right now, 447 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 10: when you look at this corner back depth, there's not 448 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 10: a lot right now. I mean, you've got Deron Bland, 449 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 10: who last year, you know he's shown you flashies. He's 450 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 10: got the nine interceptions, the five pick six, but he 451 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 10: got exposed when Diggs went down in week three and 452 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 10: talking to some folks around Treyvon Diggs, it does still 453 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 10: feel like while he is working in the weight room 454 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 10: and he's starting to get to some more position specific moves, 455 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 10: he's still a little bit of a ways away. You've 456 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 10: also got Sevonn Rubbell. I got to make sure I 457 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 10: get his name right because people have been saying his 458 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 10: name wrong. He's also the rookie that they drafted at corner. 459 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 10: They have been obviously they know what they're getting with him, 460 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 10: but he's still a ways away. You've got kayir A 461 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 10: Leam that they are hoping could come in there them 462 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 10: out with the outside. But that's why you hear Jalen 463 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 10: Ramsey's name getting kicked around as it relates to Dallas. 464 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 10: In some of my conversations, it doesn't sound like there's 465 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 10: too much fire there. Of course, there's been some smoke. 466 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 10: One person in the building told me I wouldn't rule 467 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 10: it out necessarily, but talking to people close to Jalen Ramsey, 468 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 10: it doesn't sound like the Cowboys some of the folks 469 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 10: that I spolks you have made any meaningful context about him, 470 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 10: And when you've heard his name mentioned in there, it's 471 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 10: just been said, look, he's a possibility that the Cowboys 472 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 10: could go after. It doesn't seem like they've had any 473 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 10: meaningful moves in that direction, but I wouldn't rule it 474 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 10: out either well. 475 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 3: And one thing about this offseason, like every trade room 476 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 3: about the Cowboys say they could never do, and then 477 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 3: they pulled some like real trades and interesting ones as 478 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 3: well with free agency, maybe not as fruitful as you'd want, 479 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 3: plenty of trades to help stock up this Cowboys roster. 480 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 3: One player was brought over in free agency, Dante Fowler, junior, 481 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 3: former high pick, signing one year up to eight million 482 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 3: dollar deal. Where do we see Fowler contributing here, Jane 483 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 3: with the Cowboys. 484 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 10: Well, remember I talked about Maddy Burfluse liking that fast, 485 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 10: physical defense. Well he gets speed with Dante Fowler. Now, 486 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 10: when you talk to Dante Fowler, what I like about 487 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 10: him is his vulnerability and transparency. He said, he's always 488 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 10: been a little bit of a late bloomer. But last 489 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 10: year in Washington, one of his most productive seasons. He said, 490 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 10: things really starting to click. He had ten and a 491 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 10: half sex having him back, you know, DeMarcus Lawrence no 492 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 10: longer with the Cowboys. You've got Sam Williams coming back, 493 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 10: You've got Marshawn Neeland. It'll be good to have a 494 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 10: veteran presence in there. Also, interestingly enough, his first defensive 495 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 10: line coach was Aaron at Whitecotton. He is now the 496 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 10: defensive line coach for the Cowboys. So you know he's 497 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 10: interested in getting him in the building. But if you noticed, 498 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 10: a lot of the moves that they made this offseason 499 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 10: were really about bolstering the defensive line. You know, I 500 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 10: kept telling you even leading up to the draft when 501 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 10: they drafted an offensive lineman, they really believe that it 502 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 10: starts from the inside and then goes out words. They're 503 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 10: building up the trenches and so Dante Fowler is just 504 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 10: a piece of that puzzle. 505 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 3: One more thing, Jane, before I'll let you go, and 506 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 3: this is not Cowboys related at all. But Thursday, Frida, 507 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 3: you were hosting all female cast of GMFB housych are you. 508 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 2: Well? 509 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 10: At first, I thought you were going to roast me, 510 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 10: because I was I got got by the internet Saquon Barkley. 511 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 10: I was convinced, given some of the things that we've 512 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 10: seen endgame, that maybe he did that backward jump move 513 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 10: without a harness. I kept looking to see if there 514 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 10: was a harness. I can't trust anything on the internet, 515 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 10: so I thought you were going to roast me. Thanks 516 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 10: for being kind, but I am excited about doing this show. 517 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 10: I will be the first to tell you I'm not 518 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 10: one of those that loves playing into the women's trope 519 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 10: or all women's are putting yourself in categories because when 520 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 10: I started, there really weren't that many women covering the league. 521 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,360 Speaker 10: We had Sharen Williams here in Dallas, who I looked 522 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 10: up to, and now it's really excited to see so 523 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 10: many women in locker rooms and press conference rooms, and 524 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 10: I think that's a testament to our hiring managers. But 525 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 10: a lot of the coaches and the players who have 526 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 10: gotten used to it, and more importantly, the girls that 527 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 10: I work with, they show up prepared, they ask the 528 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 10: right questions. And what I love when I always get 529 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 10: the knock, well you didn't play football. Well a lot 530 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 10: of the beat writers that cover these teams don't either, Ian. 531 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,959 Speaker 10: I consider myself a reporter. I'm not telling you how 532 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 10: to play the game. I'm giving you the who, what win, 533 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 10: where's and whys and how's. And so I'm excited about 534 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 10: this group that we're going to do the show with. 535 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 3: I'm excited about it too. I will be watching, Thank 536 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 3: you very much, Jane. Really cool stuff coming up from 537 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 3: you and all of our friends here at NFL Network. 538 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 3: Cool stuff coming up with the Insiders as well. That's 539 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 3: Michael Pettink's junior. That's one of my favorite throws of 540 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 3: the entire season. Marvin Harrison junior, Caleb Williams, a lot 541 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 3: of really good young players to get to with. Our 542 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 3: good friend Jeffrey Chidia, who oh, by the way, joins 543 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 3: us next on the Insider. 544 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 2: It's now official. 545 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: The forty nine ers have acquired another pass rusher. It 546 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: is Bryce Huff, who is headed from the Philadelphia Eagles 547 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: to San Francisco for a twenty twenty six mid round 548 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 1: draft pick. That deal now officially agreed to pending a 549 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: physical reuniting with Robert Solo, who coached him with the Jets. 550 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: Speaking of reunions, Mike Vick is back in Flowery Branch 551 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: with the Falcons, spending a little bit of time right 552 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: there with Bijon Robinson, not pictured, tight end Kyle Pitts, 553 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: who's been around the facility but working. 554 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 2: His way through a foot injury and not on the field. 555 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 11: Extremely cautious with Kyle right now and what he's got 556 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 11: going on. Obviously, you know, talk about injuries this time 557 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 11: of year, but definitely being cautious with them so you 558 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 11: won't see him. He's been here, he's done such a 559 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 11: great job of all stuff that we've asked him. He's 560 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 11: been in every single meeting, He's been in every single 561 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 11: thing that we've done other than the field fields, and 562 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 11: he's been absolutely outstanding to be around. 563 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 2: There have been some trade rumors around Kyle Pitts, also 564 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 2: trade rumors around John new Smith, whose agent Drew Rosenel said. 565 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 1: On WSVN that JOHNO would definitely like to stay in Miami. 566 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 1: Roseennel's did not comment on Smith's reported desire for new contract. 567 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: You can probably put together the pieces right there. Caleb Williams, 568 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 1: entering this year two of his rookie contract with the 569 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: Chicago bears one of the names now that he has 570 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 1: paired up with Ben Johnson in Chicago. It appears on 571 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: Jeffy Jinia's list of eight young NFL players whose development 572 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: could propel their team in twenty twenty five. Jeffrey, join 573 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: us right now on the Insiders with me, Tom Pelliserro, 574 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 1: give me a few more, Jeffrey, who else could have 575 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: their development propel their teams this coming season. 576 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 6: I'll give you a name from the defending Square Bowl champions, Tom, 577 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 6: and that's Nolan Smith, their third year edge rusher. You 578 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 6: know they lost Brandon Graham and Joshwett and Milton Wins 579 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,959 Speaker 6: in that defensive line. Rice Hump is on his way 580 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 6: out of town now as well. A lot of pressure 581 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 6: now on Noel Smith to be that player they were 582 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 6: expecting to get. But they made him a first round 583 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,719 Speaker 6: pick a couple of years ago, and he still has 584 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 6: that great speed of four to three, nine to forty 585 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 6: in the combine, and he came on last year, had 586 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 6: a quiet rookie year, but he had six and a 587 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 6: half sacks last year, four sacks in the postseason. The 588 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 6: opportunity is going to be there for him to make 589 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 6: a lot of big plays and they will need that 590 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 6: as they try to repeat this year. 591 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 2: Number two on this list. 592 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 6: I'm going to go to his Michael Pennix the Atlanta Falcons, 593 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 6: a guy who also is a first round pick. Last 594 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 6: year didn't play a whole lot, but got to play 595 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 6: at the end of the season when they bench kirk 596 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 6: Cousins put up ok stats fifty eight percent completion percentage, 597 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 6: three touchdowns, three picks. They went one and two with him, 598 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 6: but again kirk Cousins played his way out of this job. 599 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 6: The hope was that Pennicks would be able to play 600 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 6: in a couple of years, but he's going to be 601 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 6: in there fast, and he's got a good supporting pass 602 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 6: with John Robinson, Drake London and those guys, so he 603 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 6: needs perform in a week NFC South. And then finally, 604 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 6: last on my list is Marvin Harrison Junior overall pick 605 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 6: in last year's draft, and the guy with a big 606 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 6: name and a great heritage with his dad being a 607 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 6: Hall of Famer, had a couple hundred yard seasons, but 608 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 6: down on the stretch when this team was six and four, 609 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 6: they lost five to the last seven games. He did 610 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 6: to reach the sixty five yard mark in six of 611 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 6: those games. They need him to be more than just 612 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 6: a player who flashes. And look, they've had great players 613 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 6: out of Ohio State with Chris Olive, Jason Smith and 614 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 6: Jigba Garrett Wilson. Thiscott is supposed to be better than 615 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 6: all of them. I think with a full offseason with 616 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 6: Kyler Murray, he can get there. 617 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: That was four names. There are four more at NFL 618 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: dot com. Slash you diego check out that article right now, Jeffrey, 619 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: thank you very much. A private memorial was held today 620 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis for the Lake Colts owner and CEO Jim Ersay. 621 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: Luminarias such as Robert kraft on hand, Pat McAfee, as 622 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: well Bruce Arians, the former coach interim coach of the 623 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts, all paying tribute to one of the unique 624 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: men in modern NFL history in terms of ownership. Plans 625 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: for a public tribute will be announced at a later date. 626 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: Jim Ers passedway last month at the age of sixty five. 627 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: The wait is over and the countdown to kickoff has 628 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: be gone. Single game tickets for the twenty twenty five 629 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: NFL season are on sale now. Visit NFL dot com 630 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: slash tickets to purchase tickets today. Tickets are available through 631 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: the NFL ticket network, including ticket Master, Seat Geek, and 632 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated Tickets. 633 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 2: Did I say tickets enough for now? 634 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: You can't get tickets to voluntary OTAs, but they're rolling on, 635 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: including in Jacksonville. 636 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 12: I think today was probably the most balanced it's been 637 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 12: where offense make a play, defense come back make a play. 638 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 12: I thought it was just a good competitive back and forth, 639 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 12: whereas maybe in days prior there's been more Okay, the 640 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 12: offense has a really good day and the defense not 641 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 12: and vice versa. The defense has a good day and 642 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 12: the offenses ticked off. Specifically myself, but you know, I 643 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 12: thought today was just a good balance of guys making 644 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 12: plays and then coming back, Okay, who needs to make 645 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 12: a play. Who's going to stop the bleeding on each side? 646 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 12: When maybe the offense or defense is making more. 647 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the insiders, Tom pilaicero Ian rapport join 648 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: it now by our Cameron Wolf cam new coaching staff 649 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: there with Leon Cohen, some new parts coming in here. 650 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: What does that tell us about potentially maybe some new 651 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: roles in terms of some of their key players on 652 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 1: that offense. 653 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 13: Well, Tom, let's start with Brian Thomas Junior, because he's 654 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 13: still their number one wide receiver coming off in a 655 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 13: credible rookie year and now he's going to have a 656 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 13: playmaker next with Travis Hunter right next to him. But 657 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 13: it was interesting as you talk about Brian Thomas' year two, 658 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 13: Liam Cohen, their head coach, talked about playing him a 659 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 13: lot more in the slot, using his big body as 660 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 13: an option and choice weapon for him to go multiple options, 661 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 13: creating conflict on that defense. And that's a lot differer 662 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 13: than what he did in year one. He was primarily 663 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 13: a guy who played outside, ran deep, and they're going 664 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 13: to open up his playbook, make him more of a playmaker, 665 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 13: and that's going to make him even more intriguing as 666 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 13: a weapon for Jacksonville and for fantasy football owners as well. 667 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 13: And one other interesting nugget I got talking to people 668 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,719 Speaker 13: down in Duval. Brian Thomas is naturally a little bit 669 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 13: more quiet and reserve. They talked about how much more 670 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 13: confident and comfortable he is in year two and that 671 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 13: the presence of Travis Hunter with all his jovial fun 672 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 13: has unleashed a little bit of Brian Thomas's personality and 673 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 13: they have been able to gel and they connect over 674 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 13: their fire and their competitiveness on the field. The other 675 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 13: thing Travis Etn they're running back. There's been a lot 676 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 13: of trade rumblings this offseason, some rumors that the Jacksonville 677 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 13: new staff didn't like him. Cohen said today that was 678 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 13: inaccurate completely. He said Travis has been great. He raved 679 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 13: about him in the passing game. Jacksonville has a busy 680 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 13: backfield with. 681 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 2: Him Tank Bell. 682 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 13: They drafted the guy in the fourth round, so it's 683 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 13: going to be a lot of touches to go around 684 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 13: the backfield. But Etn is part of their plan going 685 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 13: into the fall, and they definitely wanted to make that clear, 686 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 13: especially with their Week one opponent, the Carolina Panthers sporting 687 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 13: his brother Trevor Etn. So we get an at and 688 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 13: Bowl in week one. 689 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 3: There we go something to look forward to, ninety four 690 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 3: whatever days away from kickoff. Thanks Tom for putting that 691 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 3: in my head. Let's keep on the Travis trade and 692 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 3: talk about Travis Hunter. Something that is I messed it up. 693 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 3: It's ninety eight right because the Thursday game. Anyway, Let's 694 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 3: talk about Travis Hunter, his development at OTAs. What are 695 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 3: we seeing out there in Jacksonville camp? 696 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 13: Yeah, every day it's what side of the ball Travis 697 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 13: is going to be on? 698 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 2: That's the big question. 699 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 13: Today he was in a teal jersey, which means that 700 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 13: he was on the offensive side of the ball. But 701 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 13: he has been bouncing back and forth. From what I've 702 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 13: been told, he's primarily still been an offensive player playing 703 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 13: wide receiver, but he's now done at least two defensive practices, 704 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 13: and they talked about him playing on defense on Friday 705 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 13: and him being able to show his ability in man 706 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 13: coverage and zone coverage and being a natural cornerback on 707 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 13: the field. Their second secondary coach, Ron Milis, asked Lee 708 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 13: and Cohen after Friday's practice, can we have him more? 709 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,879 Speaker 13: And so the debate the battle for Travis Hunter's time 710 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 13: is heated up. 711 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 2: But right now. 712 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 13: They're going to keep him on one side of the 713 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 13: ball primarily each day of OTA's and mini camp, and 714 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 13: maybe as we get into training camp that will change. 715 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 13: But he's going to be an immediate contribute at receiver 716 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 13: and they're going to work him in on defense. He's 717 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,800 Speaker 13: been learning that playbook every day with their defensive coordinator 718 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 13: Anthony Cappinelli. And it's also interesting to watch this Jags 719 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,320 Speaker 13: team as they transition from a man coverage heavy team 720 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 13: to a zone coverage heavy team. They have supposedly been 721 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 13: getting their ball hands on balls a lot more in OTAs, 722 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 13: creating those turnovers that they hope that translates into the 723 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 13: regular season. 724 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 1: Ninety four days to Eagles, Cowboys in ninety seven days 725 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,959 Speaker 1: Jaguars Panthers camp, thank you very much. Also ninety seven 726 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 1: days or shall we say Dexter Lawrence days until the 727 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: Giants open up against the Commanders. They got new quarterbacks, 728 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 1: Jamis Winston has a new number. Will it be new 729 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 1: results in New York Giants OTAs underway one of the 730 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 1: most intriguing quarterback battles of the off season. Russell Wilson 731 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:15,879 Speaker 1: just threw that thing about. 732 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 2: Ninety eight yards, maybe not quite that far. 733 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: Kind of looked like it with that camera angle, connecting 734 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 1: right there with Jalen Hyatt and making the most of 735 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 1: at least one rep through the course of the voluntary 736 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: OTAs Russell Wilson said recently on the Carmelo Anthony podcast, 737 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: so far, so. 738 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 2: Good in the Big Apple. 739 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:39,439 Speaker 14: I think the opportunity here is so is so great man. 740 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 14: And you know, I don't mind the lights. You know 741 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 14: what I mean, I don't mind the I don't mind 742 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 14: the you know that part of it. I think the 743 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 14: other part of me most importantly though, of all of that, 744 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 14: is I've been here before. You know, when you walk 745 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 14: into a stadium into a locker room and you know, 746 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 14: like my locker is the same locker I had when 747 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,399 Speaker 14: I won the Super Bowl, And so for me, when 748 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 14: I see that, I'm like when I walk into that stadium, 749 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 14: I'm like, I've been here before, like not just been here, 750 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 14: but like like we did this before. 751 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Insiders. 752 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:14,280 Speaker 1: Tom Pelasero, Ian Rappaport, and Mark Ross Okay, Mark Russell 753 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: Wilson says the lights don't bother him. He's back in 754 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 1: that locker where he won the Super Bowl a dozen 755 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 1: or so years ago. Here, what does it all mean 756 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 1: in your mind in terms of how this quarterback competition 757 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: with him Jamis Winston Jackson Dark plays out. 758 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think very much. Look, I don't have 759 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 2: any doubt. 760 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 5: Russell Wilson has been a star for a long time, 761 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 5: going back to his college days and the two sport 762 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 5: athlete and going to Wisconsin and then winning the Super Bowl, 763 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 5: as he said right there using the same locker. So 764 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 5: I don't think the off the field stuff. He's been 765 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 5: a consummate pro will bother him. It's on the field, 766 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 5: and he's on his fourth team in the last five years, 767 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 5: and Jameis Winston, the guy he's competing with, on his 768 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 5: third team in the last three and I think both 769 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,800 Speaker 5: of them are really past their prime. And the Giants 770 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 5: are have a great chance to win with either one 771 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 5: of these guys. And to me, this season is really 772 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 5: about Jackson Dart and whether Russell Wilson wins the job 773 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 5: or Jamis Winston, whoever's been promised. It's about when do 774 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 5: you put Jackson Dart in the game to play this season? 775 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 5: Because when you look at the Giants schedule, it is 776 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:21,280 Speaker 5: absolutely brutal, and that Week five game at New Orleans 777 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 5: is really the only one you're looking at and say, yeah, 778 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 5: they got a realistic chance of winning that. But outside 779 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,240 Speaker 5: of that, this seems it's going to be a long 780 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 5: year for the Giants. I know they've talked about giving 781 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 5: Jackson Dart the whole entire season to get ready, but 782 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 5: I just can't see there anyway. If Russell gets out 783 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,239 Speaker 5: there and he struggles, why you would not go to 784 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 5: Jackson Dart and instead go to Jamis Winston. I think 785 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 5: Jamis whoever wins the job, the second guy who loses 786 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 5: it is. 787 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:45,799 Speaker 2: Kind of out of place. 788 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 5: It's really about the bridge quarterback I and then getting 789 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 5: Jackson Dart ready to get in there for this year 790 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 5: or the foreseeable future. 791 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 3: I've no doubt that Russell Wilson, want you know, is 792 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 3: ready for the Lights and wants to let them for this. 793 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 3: This is what he's been dying for, be trying to 794 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 3: get to the New York Giants for I don't know, 795 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 3: five years or probably more. Now he is finally here, 796 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 3: and this is a very good thing for Russell Wilson 797 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 3: Dot assuming he plays well, because the other part of 798 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 3: the Bright Lights is that when it goes wrong, it's 799 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 3: extremely hard. There's a lot of media, there's talk radio, 800 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 3: there's TV. It gets really harsh. There's a lot to 801 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 3: wet stand. And then you've got to go out and 802 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 3: play a game the next weekend. And yes, it is 803 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 3: to win in New York is amazing. To lose in 804 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 3: New York. It has got to be one of the 805 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 3: hardest things for an athlete. And if you're Russell Wilson 806 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,439 Speaker 3: and you really are trying to have that final act 807 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 3: to your career, trying to lead the Giants system win, 808 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,800 Speaker 3: trying to hold off a rookie, maybe the whole season, 809 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 3: but at the least as long as possible. You have 810 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 3: to be able to deal not just with the bright lights, 811 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,760 Speaker 3: but all the bad stuff that come with the bright lights. 812 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 3: It is going to be a challenge as for sure, 813 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 3: as hard, probably harder than it was for Russ Wilson 814 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 3: last year. He is in for it, but if he succeeds, 815 00:38:58,360 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 3: no doubt he will have earned it. 816 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 1: That Super Bowl feels like eons ago, and it sort 817 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: of was. It's literally twelve years ago in New York 818 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 1: and you had to remember, how was that team constructed? 819 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 1: It wasn't the Russell Wilson Show. It was one of 820 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 1: the greatest defenses that we've ever seen. It was Percy 821 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 1: Harvin having a big kick return in that game. He 822 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 1: was having a big thide running back in Marshawn Lynz. 823 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 1: They got him one of those Campskataboo now member of 824 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 1: the New York Giants. Here, can they harness all those 825 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,799 Speaker 1: different things and elevate Russell Wilson. That's probably as Mark 826 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,280 Speaker 1: was saying, the point at which were in his career. 827 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 1: If not, then at some point you're probably looking to 828 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 1: that young talented guy that you trade it up to 829 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: get with his second first round pick. Mark, Thank you 830 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 1: very much, look forward to talking with you again soon. 831 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 2: Still more to come here. 832 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 1: On The Insiders, Saquon Barkley told us that for the 833 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 1: Madden cover, they actually did have him up on a 834 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 1: harness and on wires. But can he do this again? 835 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 1: Could anything actually top that? We've got some rejected Madden 836 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:08,360 Speaker 1: covers for you next. Give more of the NFL with 837 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,879 Speaker 1: NFL Plus. Stay connected throughout the offseason with twenty four 838 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 1: to seven football news and coverage on NFL Network and 839 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 1: with NFL plus Premium. Relive your favorite moments from the 840 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four season with game replays and access to 841 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 1: NFL players stance with NFL Pro Plus. Every episode of 842 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,839 Speaker 1: The Insider is just gonna mention that too. Subscribe today 843 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 1: at plus dot NFL dot com. Terms and conditions apply 844 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 1: ninety four days away from the start of the twenty 845 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 1: twenty five season, with the Eagles going up against the Cowboys. 846 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: You don't have to wait that long to play EA 847 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 1: Sports Madden twenty six, which will have Sakwon Barkley on 848 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 1: the cover. 849 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,239 Speaker 2: He joined us a short time ago, told us yes, 850 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:48,839 Speaker 2: next it did. 851 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 1: Haven't been a harness to recreate it. That's how freaky 852 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 1: the backwards leap was last season. Here still a phenomenal athlete, 853 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 1: which also raised the question ian for certain people in 854 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 1: the far reaches the internet, what are some other cover 855 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 1: options that would have potentially been usable? 856 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:06,359 Speaker 2: What do you think of this. 857 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 1: One with I'm on rass Saint Brown doing the upside 858 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:10,279 Speaker 1: down pencil dance here? 859 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,760 Speaker 3: I think that would have been amazing. And he's actually 860 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 3: not the star. I mean, his teammates watching in awe 861 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 3: as he stands on his head and just celebrating. That 862 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 3: would have been a good one. I can't beat take 863 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 3: one that added really is that was the all time 864 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 3: had to be this year now, this one time. Look, 865 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 3: we as much debate as we had about the toush push, 866 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 3: this one being the non toush push, the tush push leap. 867 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,359 Speaker 3: This is a no for me, dog, I'm out on 868 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 3: this one. 869 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,239 Speaker 1: It makes you wonder can the officials award a touchdown 870 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 1: for continued infractions in the Madden video game? 871 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:49,799 Speaker 2: If not, I want that rectified. 872 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,280 Speaker 1: AJ Brown reading a book maybe not the right message 873 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:54,839 Speaker 1: to send to a bunch of kids who are about 874 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 1: to waste their summer playing video games. Have you ever 875 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 1: thought about picking up a book instead? No, no, you 876 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 1: have not. How about the duck that wanted around out 877 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,759 Speaker 1: there in Tampa? Another feature I'd like to see in 878 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 1: the game. 879 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I would say, uh oh yeah, now 880 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 3: this is a good one. Count me in on this one. 881 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 3: The hail Mary waving to his own fans. Let's just say, 882 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 3: Steve his own yeah, cow me. This this would have 883 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 3: been you know, it just should have been Tom back 884 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 3: coover back cover b side. 885 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,880 Speaker 1: Greatest turning point in the season right there, and all 886 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,720 Speaker 1: of this one. I think we can all agree this 887 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 1: is the cover that you'd want to see. Will that 888 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 1: everyone ratings stand well, it probably depends on what time 889 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 1: of day and if he Ian's gotten into the Bourbon yet. 890 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 5: But I like it. 891 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:44,440 Speaker 2: I think that's a really good look. You what do 892 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 2: you think? 893 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 12: Uh? 894 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,760 Speaker 3: I mean, we should be in the Madden Game reporting injuries. 895 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,439 Speaker 3: So like, if they're gonna put us on the cover, 896 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 3: I would say that's probably a good start. Next time, 897 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 3: I would be putting us in the game. 898 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:56,799 Speaker 2: If it's in the game, it's in the game. 899 00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,240 Speaker 1: You know I'm in the game. They did the body 900 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,759 Speaker 1: scan on at the league meeting. I was in last 901 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,839 Speaker 1: year's game. I assume I'm still this one. Don't even 902 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,440 Speaker 1: scandy again, do they? And anyway, I'm gonna. 903 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:07,920 Speaker 2: Be back on the show tomorrow too. See you then,