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Speaker 1: Hey, this Sanny and Samantha and welcome to Stephane Never

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Speaker 1: Told You Protection of iHeartRadio. And here we are with

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Speaker 1: our part six of our special The Last of Us,

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Speaker 1: a mini series where we recap and react to the

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Speaker 1: HBO Max series The Last of Us, based on the

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Speaker 1: twenty thirteen game of which I am a huge fan.

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Speaker 1: We are not the official podcast, and in fact, somebody

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Speaker 1: texted me the other day and was like, I heard

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Speaker 1: this on the podcast and I was like, oh really,

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that. They're like, oh, it's not your podcast.

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Speaker 1: I was like, all right, well thanks, but yes, we

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Speaker 1: are not the official podcast, but we are one that

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Speaker 1: I think has some good points and some good thoughts

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Speaker 1: and some fun time. We have fun times, we do. Indeed,

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Speaker 1: this is a mini series. We are doing it but

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Speaker 1: one week after the most recent episode airs, so this

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Speaker 1: is one week after episode six, which is called Ken,

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Speaker 1: and there are nine episodes of this series. So the

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Speaker 1: final episode, probably unless we do a two parter, which

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Speaker 1: is possible, will be March nineteenth, because the finale of

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Speaker 1: the show is March twelfth, So after that we will

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Speaker 1: go back to our regularly scheduled programming Slash My Happy hours,

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Speaker 1: which have been moved all about for the Saturday episodes. Also,

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Speaker 1: there will be spoilers for the first six episodes of

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Speaker 1: the series. Samantha is my guardian and making sure I

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Speaker 1: don't spoil the whole thing. And it's this one's gonna

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Speaker 1: be tough, this one, I'm gonna say, but I think

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Speaker 1: We got this, we got this. Yeah, all right, are

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Speaker 1: you ready for my wonderful recap? Samantha gifts the best recaps.

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Speaker 1: I am so ready. Right, so again, because this is

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Speaker 1: an HBO Max show. Just as a reminder content warning,

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Speaker 1: there's violence and sadness and trauma all throughout, which is

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Speaker 1: right up. Annie's Allie, that is what she loves. Um

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Speaker 1: And yes, so if you haven't watched the six episode

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Speaker 1: six pause, go watch come back. Yes, because my explanation

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Speaker 1: is so good, it's like you're watching it as I'm

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Speaker 1: speaking of this. I'm sure, I'm sure. Okay, So we

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Speaker 1: are went back with Ellie and Joel, who all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden we come into a picture of a cabin.

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Speaker 1: Dude someone someone is walking with rabbits. There was a

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Speaker 1: lot of conversations that happened by the way, at our

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Speaker 1: but they were conversations, just so you know. And then

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Speaker 1: a Native woman who is just chilling in her chair

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Speaker 1: say no, he comes out. He comes out with a gun.

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Speaker 1: It is like a rut row, and we find now

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Speaker 1: and then trying to figure out, you know, where's the

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Speaker 1: what he says. And we have this great banter that

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Speaker 1: called The Northern Exposure, which I remember. I did not watch,

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Speaker 1: and then Elie kinds like hey, and he and then

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Speaker 1: She's like, wait, what if this is a river of death?

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Speaker 1: Scary moment. And during these times, by the way, Joel

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Speaker 1: And because Joel is Joel, he can't be happy for anybody.

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Speaker 1: We go back to Ellie who was all clean and refreshed,

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Speaker 1: this point in time, the Quzi probably didn't have all

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Speaker 1: Then I'm just going to run through some quick things

424
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,400
Speaker 1: and if you've played the games, are looked up spoilers

425
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 1: and you'll know what I'm talking about. But if you

426
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 1: have it, then just keep it in the back of

427
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 1: your head or forget it. Yeah, you can forget it

428
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:43,120
Speaker 1: because it doesn't come around. It's not important, it's just ms.

429
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 1: Because there were a lot of Easter eggs in this one.

430
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: This was a like easter egg packed episode, DNA. Oh

431
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: my goodness. I was so excited. The next day I

432
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,439
Speaker 1: was like, this first thing I've said to you, I

433
00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 1: think the next true shimmer the Horror, the Jackets of

434
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 1: the Hoodie, and then the branch was sheep. And also

435
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 1: Joel saying like, I actually I'd like to be a musician. Yes,

436
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 1: because in the first episode we did, I was like,

437
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 1: the got the guitar. Yes, we don't. I guess we

438
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 1: don't have too many flashbacks of happy times. We just

439
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 1: have the one of like how it began, right huh yeah? Yeah.

440
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 1: Well this brings us to kind of the changes they've

441
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: made with Joel's character in the show, which I get

442
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 1: why they made them, and I'll have my thoughts in

443
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: the final episode maybe or maybe the next one, who knows.

444
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 1: But they've made him softer. He's a he is not

445
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 1: narrowly as soft are as open with his emotions, which

446
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: some of you listening you've never played the game, might

447
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 1: be like, what ye him cry no, and that scene

448
00:25:55,640 --> 00:26:00,479
Speaker 1: where he's like in front of Tommy and crying no.

449
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 1: Never in a million years that have happened. And we

450
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: see him have regrets yeah, but never crying yes. And

451
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 1: even that when which we'll talk about in a second

452
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 1: because it's like famous, but they're big blowout with Ellie

453
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 1: and Joel that he's even he's much harsher than that

454
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:19,199
Speaker 1: in the game, but he doesn't that we see. He

455
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: doesn't have panic attacks in the game. I will say

456
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 1: they do have a really good which if you don't

457
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: care about spoilers we've talked about in past episodes about

458
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 1: The Last of Us. They do have a really good

459
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: depiction of trauma in these games. But like this whole

460
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 1: fear of failure, he's kind of freezing up his like

461
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: fear that his heart will stop. They don't really explore

462
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 1: that and his character he is, I mean, like the

463
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: trauma is always apparent. It's just he deals with it

464
00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 1: in the very cut off way of ill not befriend you,

465
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: child's all right, Like I think a very sad murdered dad, right,

466
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: sad murder dad. I feel like too. As the relationship

467
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: developed in the game, you don't really see that flip

468
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 1: as easily. It just like you see the flip in

469
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: the show. We saw the flip. Of course, it always

470
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: happens at the most end up or two times you

471
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: were getting too comfortable, audience, This is not going to

472
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: end well, and we just saw that with our ending

473
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 1: on this episode, which is what made you cry. But

474
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,439
Speaker 1: like all of those things like that, we don't see that.

475
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: I don't feel like I built that up in the game.

476
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: Maybe I was just because it was I was watching

477
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: it as a game, but it didn't feel like that

478
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 1: that was a huge, like big moment. It just kind

479
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:49,479
Speaker 1: of gradually happens and we don't notice it until like

480
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: when he gets protective right right, so in the game,

481
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: which if you care about spoilers in the game, this

482
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 1: isn't much different. But if you care about them, now's

483
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: the time go. In the game, he kind of like

484
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: Ellie and Joel have their big fight. She runs away,

485
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: which she didn't do in the show. She runs away,

486
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: Tommy and Joel have to go find her. They have

487
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: their whole fight and it's not resolved, and then Joel's

488
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: just kind of decides like he's just is kind of like, okay,

489
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 1: I'll take her. You know what, your wife scares me,

490
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 1: I'll take her, That's what he says. But there's not Yeah,

491
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: there's not that big like moment or confession from him

492
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: at all. It just sort of happens something else that

493
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: I noticed. And we've talked about this in previous episodes too.

494
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: They've definitely made it more realistic in terms of like

495
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: the affects your body would feel living in this world

496
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: and especially as you get older. And Joel certainly has

497
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: some internalized ableism because he was talking about like, you know,

498
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: if I had just been able to hurt this person here,

499
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: this person but I'm deaf, if I could have just

500
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: moved faster, but I'm old, I'm weak. He says, all

501
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: I've ever done is fail kind of this, like really

502
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: this thing hanging over him that he's not good enough

503
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: to protect this, to protect this person, and he does.

504
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: He doesn't do this in the game either, but he

505
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: kind of has a moment where he's like, if I've

506
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: fail Ellie, like this is it. She's like the possible

507
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: cure for humankind. So this is a huge deal, and

508
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: I need someone else who is better than me to

509
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: take it on. Like he's like feeling that weight. You

510
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: also see a lot of kind of the ghost of Sarah,

511
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: the specter of Sarah, his daughter hanging over this whole thing,

512
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: Like there's a flashback where he thinks Sarmah the flashback

513
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: but he thinks he sees Sarah as an adult with

514
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: a child of her own, and it's like, Oh, that's

515
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: what I could have had. Yeah. You see him kind

516
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: of lying about tests when him and Tommy have their

517
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: confrontation about like what what Joel did to protect Tommy.

518
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: Tommy says, life stopped for you, it doesn't have to

519
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: stop for me, and kind of referencing the watch which

520
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: stopped and he still wears when Sarah got shot and died.

521
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: You do have Ellie learning about Sarah for the first

522
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: time in the game. It's a photograph she finds, and

523
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: him just being totally unwilling to talk to her about it,

524
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: not wanting to deal with it. I did think it

525
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: was interesting in the kind of you know, behind the

526
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: scenes interview at the end where they were talking about

527
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: the differences between how Maria handled the loss of her

528
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: child Kevin and how Joel handled the loss of Sarah,

529
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: and also the similarities of Alien Joel and how they

530
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: handle a loss because Ellie is kind of like, hey,

531
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: I'm sorry for your loss, but I've lost people too,

532
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: so that's interesting. But yeah, you also did. We did

533
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: get to this big Tommy reunion, and one of the

534
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: things about that is Joel's been so concerned about, you know, Tommy,

535
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: and he's like, I gotta go save him, and it

536
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: turns out Tommy's doing well, He's doing like quite well.

537
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,479
Speaker 1: You do get some hints that they're very very dark past,

538
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: and there are a couple of like in like more

539
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: Easter eggs, like the stealth kill as you were talking

540
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: about when he breaks that guy's neck. Why not Joel

541
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: breaks that guy's neck. That's how you stealth kill on

542
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: the game. And then also the map trick that they

543
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: do at the beginning. Oh oh, that's right, I forgot

544
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: that that scene. I do remember them being like at

545
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: the very beginning of like she told me is different

546
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: you're dead. Yeah, it does happened in the game. It does, indeed. Uh.

547
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: And then yes, the come to Jesus moment. Like throughout

548
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: this episode, as I said, like you see kind of

549
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: Ellie being like, hey, if she says, if you're dead,

550
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: I'm to joel Um and then they have this huge fight,

551
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: which it kind of cracked me up. But in the

552
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: post interview thing, they were saying, it's the most famous

553
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: scene in the game. I guess, so, I mean it

554
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: stuck with me. Yeah, but it is exactly almost exactly

555
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: like you can watch a side by side like the game,

556
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: but where Ellie's like essentially like, admit you wanted to

557
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: leave me this whole time. You wanted to ditch me

558
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: this whole time. I'm not say era like if you

559
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,479
Speaker 1: can say anything you want, but you're the only one

560
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: who hasn't left me, and if you do, I'm just

561
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: going to be more afraid. Like, don't say it's better

562
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: for me. I will say, if you get a chance,

563
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: you should look at the posters and stuff in the

564
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: room she's in, because it's the room of like a

565
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: teenage girl before the pandemic, and there's like a like

566
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: list of hottest boys, like at least posters from things.

567
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: But in the game you see Ellie constantly confused about

568
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: things like that where she finds this like modeling poster

569
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,239
Speaker 1: and she's like, why did women feel like they had

570
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: to be so thin? That doesn't make sense. I would

571
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: give anything to have like food and not be worried

572
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: about this the vampire romance movie she doesn't get. So

573
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: that was kind of a fun little nod to that. Well, no,

574
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: and that after the show thing they craigmis and said, like,

575
00:33:55,400 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: you know, Joel makes Ellie feel less afraid, but she

576
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 1: makes him feel more afraid because it's something you can

577
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: lose that he's experienced before. And we also get to

578
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: see Ellie's fear of ending up alone, which is her

579
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: greatest fear, kind of planning out. I did think it

580
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: was interesting because when Joel's like, you deserve a choice,

581
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: like I think you'd be better off with Tommy, but

582
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 1: if you want to go with me, and she's to

583
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: me like, yes, let's go, And that wasn't in the

584
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: game either. He just kind of was like, get all

585
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: the worse right, We're going together. And then yeah, you

586
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: do get to see kind of this montage of them bonding,

587
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: of him teaching her things, of him opening up finally

588
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: about like, actually, I'd rather than be a singer if

589
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: I can be anything. He even smiled at one point. WHOA.

590
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: And we're going to talk about this more in the

591
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: next episode. But the inspiration of the entire game is

592
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: kind of we're almost at that, and it kind of

593
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: happens in this mysterious I won't say more, but we'll

594
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: talk about that in the next one. And then we

595
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: do get to see them starting, yeah, starting to think

596
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: of like the future, what could it be like post infection,

597
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: where Joel says, you know, yeah, I want this ranch

598
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: with Sheep and then actually, no, I want to be

599
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 1: a musician, and Ellie says, I want to be an astronaut,

600
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: and she she brings up Sally Ride, which was great,

601
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: and she is super into into space in the in

602
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:26,720
Speaker 1: the game, and Sarah was also really into that stuff,

603
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: so there's that. Also, the sad song that's playing at

604
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: the end was the Depeche Mode song I'm taking a

605
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: Ride with my best Friend. I don't think it's called that,

606
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: but you know what I'm talking about from the first episode,

607
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 1: but they did it again and it was Kraig Meisen's

608
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: daughter and he was like, I felt like it would

609
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: be appropriate word because the lyrics are kind of like

610
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: I hope he never lets me down again, and it's

611
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: the daughter singing it this time. And also there was

612
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,919
Speaker 1: definitely a not to Linda run stats a long long

613
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: time when Tommy Angel, were you n tough? I watched

614
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 1: this episode like eight times. Yes, I h I don't

615
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: want to say. I don't think I'm going to go

616
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: into this too much in this one, but I do

617
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 1: want to come back to this because I feel like

618
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 1: I was very interested in what would happen in terms

619
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: of the fandoms between the gamers and people who hadn't

620
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: played the game, who were just watching the show, and

621
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: I'm starting to see it play out. So I do

622
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: want to revisit that it was going to be a

623
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: movie by Sam Raby. I don't know if I ever

624
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: said that. That's disturbing. Yeah, well in Neil Juckman, the

625
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: creative the game, was like no, no, no, no. But

626
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: I just think that's interesting given some of the conversations

627
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: that are playing out right now. Also, I've seen a

628
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: lot of articles written about Paris social relationships about this.

629
00:36:58,520 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: We are going to come back and talk about that.

630
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: It is interesting, but that's for a later time in

631
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: the meantime up next. If you don't want any spoilers,

632
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna spoil it, but if you don't want

633
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: to even watch the trailer, if you're that kind of person.

634
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: Then hop on out, we're gonna see Riley. If you

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Speaker 1: remember from the first episode, Riley was mentioned mentioned again

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Speaker 1: in the second episode, gonna see kind of Ellie's past.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get more puns. I believe that to be true.

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Speaker 1: And we are arriving at what I think is the

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Speaker 1: the next episode, but we're getting there, so that's exciting.

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Speaker 1: And of course we're just gonna hold our breaths and

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Speaker 1: hope that everything turns out. Okay, Yeah, well it is

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Speaker 1: an apocalypse game, so yes, I'm sure more death. There's

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Speaker 1: definitely more death. What do you think on the crying

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Speaker 1: scale would be for the next episode from one ten?

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Speaker 1: Oh boy? Uh? I think it depends. I think if

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Speaker 1: you're I feel like I need to have two scales

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Speaker 1: because I feel like, if you're a crier like me

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Speaker 1: to six. If you're not, I'd given a four. Um same,

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Speaker 1: But it also depends on what they do, because honestly,

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Speaker 1: like what they did with Bill and Frank wasn't in

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Speaker 1: the game like that. Yeah, and it made me stop

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Speaker 1: so there's some flis happening. There's some flips. There are

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Speaker 1: there are some flips. I know we're coming to an end,

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Speaker 1: but before we do any I would you like to

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Speaker 1: share your favorite pun Will Livingston's pun book. This isn't

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Speaker 1: my favorite one. I'll get I'll bring the pun book

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Speaker 1: in next time. But one of my favorite ones is, um,

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Speaker 1: what did the green grapes say to the purple grape?

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Speaker 1: Breathe you idiot? Perfect, that's all top of my head.

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Speaker 1: Oh my um. Well, thank you as always to everyone

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Speaker 1: going on on this journey, whether you've played the game,

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Speaker 1: seeing the show, none of the above. We are having

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Speaker 1: I'm having a great time, so we have very time.

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Speaker 1: I'm very very excited for the next episode. I'm getting

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Speaker 1: more and more, like just so excited every time. So

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Speaker 1: this has been so fun. Um. If you have any thoughts,

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Speaker 1: any favorite puns, you can send them to us. Our

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Speaker 1: email is a stuff at your mom stuff at iHeartMedia

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Speaker 1: dot com. You can find us on Twitter at Mom's

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Speaker 1: to podcast, or on Instagram and TikTok, where you can

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Speaker 1: see me cry about the last of us that steff

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Speaker 1: Man never told you. We're also on YouTube now if

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Speaker 1: that's your thing. Thanks as always to our super producer

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Speaker 1: Gristy Now, thank you and thanks to you for listening

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