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Speaker 3: This He's Talking Cowboys, springing live from the Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez, and

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Speaker 1: Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 5: It's in off season edition of Talking Cowboys, presented by

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Speaker 5: Black Rifle Coffee Company, live from the Star in Frisco,

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Speaker 5: Texas and the s WBC studios.

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Speaker 3: Welcome in, everybody but Tommy, that's me. You want to

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Speaker 3: try it again.

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Speaker 6: Let's do it again, all right, Live.

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Speaker 5: From the s WBC Studio from the Star in Frisco,

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Speaker 5: Talking Cowboys present about Black Rifle Coffee Company, the official

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Speaker 5: coffee of the Dallas Cowboys. We've got Tommy Yarrish, Josh Rodriguez,

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Speaker 5: Isaiah Stanback, Chris Beam in the back of Kyle Yeoman's

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Speaker 5: Glad you're with us.

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Speaker 3: We are gonna start breaking down.

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Speaker 5: Position by position, what the heck the Dallas Cowboys are.

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Speaker 3: Going to do in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: What do you need? What do you need?

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Speaker 5: What do you gotta do what is going to happen

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Speaker 5: from here on out? And I can already see the

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Speaker 5: YouTube comments flooding in, saying a whole new defense. Well,

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Speaker 5: we're gonna attack both sides of the ball, so we're

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Speaker 5: gonna get to talk a little bit offense here as well.

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Speaker 3: Glad you're with us. This is what you're with us, Kyle, Thanks, dude,

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Speaker 3: appreciate it.

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Speaker 5: Uh yeah, I don't know Tommy filling in for Patrick today.

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Speaker 6: I've already seen.

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Speaker 7: I'm already seen the booing coming in from our YouTube show.

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Speaker 3: Ooo, what's the sounder there?

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Speaker 8: Game?

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Speaker 9: What?

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Speaker 8: Rather?

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Speaker 3: What does Tommy's do?

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Speaker 7: He's got a big smile on his face as he's

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Speaker 7: looking forward, like looking for the ring.

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Speaker 10: Oh other, this guy, I can hear him laughing.

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Speaker 5: There's probably a contingency of Cowboys fans that think we

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Speaker 5: actually don't like Tommy.

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Speaker 11: No, no, it's.

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Speaker 5: Quite the opposite. It's like nobody actually dislikes Tommy.

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Speaker 11: Strapping young lad in no way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but no, we just love messing with him. Glad

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Speaker 3: to have you with us. Appreciate you.

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Speaker 10: I don't always loved being with you. Guys.

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Speaker 3: Let's throw you into the fire a little bit.

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Speaker 5: How about a little news and notes because Cowboys had

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Speaker 5: some things, Poppa what you got.

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna try to do my best for No Sea here.

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Speaker 7: The biggest thing, A couple of big things happen this weekend.

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Speaker 7: Scott Simon's the former SMU defensive coordinator as hired as

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Speaker 7: the inside linebackers coach. So this year's staff a little

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Speaker 7: bit different in the sense that you've got an inside

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Speaker 7: linebackers coach and an outside linebackers coach. I was wondering

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Speaker 7: if they would maybe do defensive line and outside linebackers, edges,

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Speaker 7: pass rush, whatever you want to call it, and they

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Speaker 7: are doing that. So SEM's defensive coordinator, Scott Simons will

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Speaker 7: coach the inside linebackers. That was Dave Borgonzi's job before

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Speaker 7: he's since gone to Tennessee to join his other And

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Speaker 7: also what I was talking about earlier, the baldest coaching staff,

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Speaker 7: which is for the Yeah, yeah Salah, Aaron Whitecotton, Yeah,

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Speaker 7: Brian Dable, Yeah, I'd like to have an interview with Tennessee.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, he's gonna be there.

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Speaker 3: They all have great smile hosts of podcasts.

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Speaker 10: They do have Gray Miles.

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Speaker 7: So Scott Simon's Broyles Award finalist for excuse Me nominee

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Speaker 7: for the last three seasons that's given each year to

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Speaker 7: the top assistant coach in college football to twenty four.

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Speaker 7: Helped SMU reach their first college football Playoff this past year.

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Speaker 7: They finished fifth in the country in turnovers, fifth and

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Speaker 10: Their offensive play caller. For the most part.

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Speaker 7: Over the last few years, though, as they've been an

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Speaker 7: Simons is a guy that has helped bolster their defense.

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Speaker 5: And then the other piece of news, well, I want

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Speaker 5: But Simon specifically, and I said this on one oh

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Speaker 5: five three the Fan the other day, that's a big

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Speaker 5: And you take a look at the way that Christian

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Speaker 5: Parker is putting the staff together. There is so much

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Speaker 5: of an emphasis in the secondary it's not even funny.

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Speaker 5: And everybody at homes like, oh, but they hired him

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Speaker 5: as an inside linebackers coach. Yeah, but look at who

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Speaker 5: he coached at SMU. He coached safeties. He coached two

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Speaker 5: is a draft prospect that he's kind of a Day

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Speaker 5: He had two picks of Carson Beck in that game

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Speaker 5: Championship Game. But Simons was a linebackers coach, then he

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Speaker 3: So there's an emphasis and.

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Speaker 5: A lot of that, and he's going to bring some

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Speaker 11: There's sort of a glass half empty, glass half full

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Speaker 11: the concern of like he's going to be here in

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Speaker 11: two or three years, because you need to get the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just keep.

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Speaker 11: Just keep that in mind.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm okay with that. I don't need my linebackers

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Speaker 11: My thing is like getting hyped for this guy that

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Speaker 11: you're focused on what he's going to be able to

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Speaker 5: I want to defer to Isaiah here, the player in

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Speaker 5: the room. But when it comes to position coaches, and

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Speaker 5: you've spoken on this before, how crucial is a position

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Speaker 5: coach to the development and the teaching that happens throughout

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Speaker 5: an offseason, into training camp, and then ultimately in the

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Speaker 6: It's everything. That's where That's who you spend your time with.

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Speaker 4: Your coordinator speak to everybody, but your position coaches is

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Speaker 4: who you rock with literally all day long. That's who

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Speaker 4: you're in your meetings with. That's who you're doing your

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Speaker 4: come out the huddles. That is your headquarters. It's that,

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Speaker 4: and then it's your coordinator, and then it's your head coach.

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Speaker 4: Head coach might say something to you every so often.

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Speaker 4: Your coordinator might speak to you every so often as well,

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Speaker 4: whenever you're you know, finishing up a play or he

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Speaker 4: seventy percent of your coaching is coming from your position coach,

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Speaker 4: if not more so. The relationship is important, The teaching

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Speaker 4: the level that you're at is important, and then benefit

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Speaker 4: in terms of having a coordinator as a position coach

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know him yet to understand how open

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Speaker 4: his awn talking about Parker Parker, Yeah, but to have

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Speaker 4: we saw that last year out of Chicago in terms

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Speaker 4: gonna blank on the name now the officive coordinator for Casey,

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Speaker 4: Eric Bannamy. He brought him in as a running back coach. Right,

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Speaker 4: He was a running back coach for Chicago last year. Now,

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Speaker 4: does Ben Johnson need anybody to help him with his

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Speaker 6: But does it help to have somebody who has a

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Speaker 4: Maybe he sees something that you don't see when you're

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Speaker 5: When you look at this staff, Tommy across the board

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Speaker 5: is kind of a young, refreshing look of young hungry coaches.

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Speaker 5: It's very different than what we've seen in the past

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Speaker 5: Tied together, but their staffs differently were similar. Right where

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Speaker 5: Christian Parker, it feels like there's a lot of young

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Speaker 7: I mean, at the end of the day, this is

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Speaker 7: all going to be judged on wins and losses and performance,

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Speaker 7: right it doesn't you know, the way they construct it.

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Speaker 10: If they don't win, it doesn't necessarily matter.

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Speaker 7: But I think what's interesting about this is I think

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Speaker 7: back to when Brian Schotenheimer was hiring his offensive staff,

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Speaker 10: Reminding me a lot of that process.

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Speaker 7: You're seeing a mixture of guys who have coached in

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Speaker 7: This is kind of the same thing that we're seeing

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Speaker 7: now with this defensive staff. Where Christian Parker and the

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Speaker 7: Cowboys are plucking from the NFL, they're plucking from the

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Speaker 7: That's the biggest question that's going to be I have

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Speaker 7: just a question of one can he mesh together into

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Speaker 6: Do we know his personality? And Christian Parker, this is.

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Speaker 10: An excellent, excellent people person.

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Speaker 7: Everybody who a teacher a teacher. He relates with young

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Speaker 6: Is he a high energy guy?

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Speaker 3: He's a player's coach.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, players coach.

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Speaker 4: So I need to know who he is as a

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Speaker 4: So I want to learn. I want to hear him

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Speaker 3: I completely agree with you.

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Speaker 5: I think the best way I could describe it without

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Speaker 5: And locked in, which is just kind of a I

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Speaker 6: I'm all for it.

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Speaker 11: And not to mention that the coach exc he's put together.

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Speaker 11: You guys mentioned it. Like you said, they're young and

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Speaker 11: You have to know it like the back of your hand, right,

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Speaker 5: If if you're looking at Christian Parker and you're asking

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Speaker 5: things like that, we can give you an answer here

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Speaker 5: But even whatever happens when he finally takes over as

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Speaker 6: Before he's going to figure himself out.

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Speaker 5: He's going to have to find what puzzle pieces fit

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Speaker 4: That's thought process, And that's the only thing that gives

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Speaker 4: even listening as if you're trying to figure out who

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Speaker 4: trying to say, Hey, Josh, I need to get on

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Speaker 4: I don't like the way that's coming. Hey Kyle, we're

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Speaker 4: it's going to require some patients from these coaches now

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Speaker 6: Understand it's a lot.

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Speaker 6: He realizes that what he thought about right and.

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Speaker 11: Well, who better to lead him through that than his

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Speaker 7: What would seem to be more problematic is if, to

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Speaker 10: You You just can't. You just have to do it.

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Speaker 7: I just don't think that's going to happen for Dallas.

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Speaker 7: But I think that if you can recognize that this is,

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Speaker 7: And here's the great part for Christian Parker, he has

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Speaker 7: So you know, we talk a lot about the how

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Speaker 10: The bar is literally that low.

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Speaker 7: And you know, he's got a chance to he has

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Speaker 10: Hey, it might be one of the best coaching jobs ever.

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Speaker 10: And notes that you, yeah, this is this is great

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Speaker 7: He received a official pardon from President Donald Trump and

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 10: I think I speak for all of us when I

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Speaker 7: You know, Nate is such a bright presence around this

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Speaker 6: Buddy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we love Nate.

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Speaker 5: I don't know Isaiah can speak to this too, just

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Speaker 5: We're not talking politics. Whatever it is. Nate Newton deserves

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Speaker 4: To this point, Yep, that's my dude. I love I

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Speaker 4: gonna repeat what they said. Great human being deserves everything,

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Speaker 4: he was talking about his grandkids, right, that's what his

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Speaker 4: focus is now, Like he talks about putting money in

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Speaker 4: his grandkids accounts and say money for college. Like his

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Speaker 4: focus is ensuring that they see him in the light

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Speaker 4: that he that he envisions. And and the Internet is

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Speaker 4: the Internet. You'll be able to go back and see

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Speaker 4: everything right, but at the end of the day, you'll

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Speaker 4: be able to see that he has the same freedoms

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Speaker 4: as everybody else has.

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Speaker 7: He should And one more quick thing, I hope, I

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Speaker 7: really do hope this means that we see his name

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Speaker 7: in the ring honor soon think that.

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Speaker 10: I hope his grandkids get to experience.

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Speaker 3: That'd be really.

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Speaker 6: Cool that I would do freaking cartwheels.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, there's no one more deserving the.

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Speaker 10: Cart wheels with y.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that would be the coolest thing ever. Congratulations name,

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Speaker 5: We love everybody, And we'll see again, uh here on

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Speaker 5: hanging with the Boys within the next couple days. I

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Speaker 5: don't know what day they go on in the off season.

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Speaker 3: Thursday, we'll see. We'll see him on hanging with the

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Speaker 3: Boys on Thursday. All right.

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Speaker 5: When we come back on Talking Cowboys, we're gonna start

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Speaker 5: breaking down, position by position, what the Cowboys need this

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Speaker 5: next step? Do you attack it in the free agencies

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Speaker 5: a couple of positions today, starting with the defensive line.

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Speaker 5: I did get Josha mug by the way, everybody wondering

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Speaker 5: of Tommy, I'm gonna get you one chopped liver.

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Speaker 3: You were his word. Kyle kept his word.

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Speaker 3: I used mine like ten times already. I mean, dude,

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Speaker 3: I'm using it right now. It's phenomenal. Good wash it though,

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Speaker 3: I did.

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Speaker 5: I mean, like yeah, likeway that just be yeah.

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Speaker 3: Wash it. Throw some coffee in there, get over it.

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Speaker 11: Hot pressure washing, you know, coffee material.

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Speaker 5: It's fine, it's hot anyways, it burns off water, no

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Speaker 5: big deal.

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Speaker 3: They used to make it in a in a campfire,

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Speaker 3: all right.

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Speaker 11: There was meet someone that has the coffee pot that

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Speaker 11: they never rints out like aroun all the way through.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's supposed to call.

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Speaker 11: A cowboy coffee.

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Speaker 3: I'm good, dude.

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Speaker 11: Real cowboy coffee is black coffee.

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Speaker 3: The official coffee of the cowboys. That's why it's the

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Speaker 3: only cowboys.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 11: What like a I can't say the name, so a

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Speaker 11: breakfast establishment, a diner if you will. And they had

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Speaker 11: the old mugs that have like the the on the inside.

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Speaker 11: You could see like all of the years of coffee

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Speaker 11: that have been.

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Speaker 4: I went to the location by your house a couple

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Speaker 4: a couple of weeks ago with the family, and I

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Speaker 4: bought a T shirt and I was mad that it

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Speaker 4: wasn't a game day because I wanted my temper.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you gotta wait until next year for that, so mad.

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Speaker 3: That's a bummer.

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Speaker 5: All right, let's talk about these positions, going position by position.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna do this over the next couple of.

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Speaker 5: Weeks and kind of hit the the number one spots

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Speaker 5: of need, but also some not so spots of need,

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Speaker 5: just to address what these positions are and what the

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Speaker 5: Cowboys currently have at the spot.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna start with linebacker.

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Speaker 2: Let's do it.

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Speaker 5: Tommy, you had a funny off air comment earlier where

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Speaker 5: you said, uh, my first question was what do they.

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Speaker 3: Have at linebacker?

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Speaker 5: To address it, and your answer was not a lot,

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Speaker 5: not a lot of linebacker.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I think that.

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Speaker 7: You know, when you look at this team and the

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Speaker 7: fact that Tamar James I think was their leading tackler

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Speaker 7: or second leading tackler, maybe behind Kenneth Murray.

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Speaker 3: Correct one.

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Speaker 7: Oh okay, I thought he'd beat him.

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Speaker 10: That's that's interesting. That's interesting to say the leader.

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Speaker 7: I think that's you know, credititional James a fifth round

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Speaker 7: pick for being that impactful in terms of statistically, but.

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Speaker 10: You can't count on that.

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Speaker 7: And I think he leaves you got a lot of

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Speaker 7: what he had in college, where he would fly to

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Speaker 7: the ball really well, but sometimes he'd overpursue and mistack that.

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Speaker 6: Don't you do it what I do? I like James.

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Speaker 10: I'm not saying I don't lie. Dislike you.

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Speaker 6: Watch it, buddy.

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Speaker 11: I think in the right system he's gonna be a

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Speaker 11: lot well.

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Speaker 7: I think it winter with the right he is a hitter,

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Speaker 7: I think, But I still think that there's work to

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Speaker 7: be done there and I don't think that. There's just

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Speaker 7: a lot of question marks that position. I think the

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Speaker 7: biggest one you got is to marveon Overshown, who has

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Speaker 7: been injured the last couple of years, and now he's

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Speaker 7: going into a contract here.

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Speaker 10: So if he if he balls out.

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Speaker 7: He has plays full seventeen games, he's fully healthy this season,

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Speaker 7: do you feel confident enough to pay him? That's that's

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Speaker 7: a big question. I wouldn't feel good about it either.

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Speaker 7: You know you've got marys Lee found that room who

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Speaker 7: twenty twenty four, towards the end of the year, you

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Speaker 7: said to yourself, Okay, it seems like he's starting to

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Speaker 7: carve out a role and put things together. Twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 7: it's where is this guy? And he one couldn't find

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Speaker 7: the field in two when he was on the field,

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Speaker 7: just didn't make the proper plays.

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Speaker 11: He was not in Eberfluce's favor for whatever reason.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think I think he is not typical kind

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Speaker 7: of linebackers and Matt Eberflus has liked in the past,

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Speaker 7: those stockier, bigger guys who just run and hit.

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Speaker 10: I think he was.

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Speaker 7: He's really good as a blitzer, and I think that

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Speaker 7: that's where he should carve himself out of rob And

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Speaker 7: then you got Kenneth Murray, who was I think you

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Speaker 7: can you've seen enough tweets and.

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Speaker 3: TikTok since he's still under contract.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, he's free agent.

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Speaker 3: He's free agent.

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Speaker 11: Him and Jack Sanborn rights Jack Samuarin. I don't think

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Speaker 11: they'll be coming back.

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Speaker 10: I would doubt it.

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Speaker 7: Samburan was a guy that I didn't think was that

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Speaker 7: bad in Chicago, but for whatever reason, and of course

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Speaker 7: injuries as well, just didn't work in Dallas. And then

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Speaker 7: they trade for Logan Wilson in the middle of the

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Speaker 7: season and there was a week where they straight up

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Speaker 7: forgot to put him on the field or just didn't

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Speaker 7: think to put them on the field. So it was

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Speaker 7: a it was a lot of moving parts, and it's

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Speaker 7: it's a room that it's no wonder when we're on

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Speaker 7: the draft show and we'll talk about it here in

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Speaker 7: the next hour or so, that linebacker is one of

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Speaker 7: those positions that you feel like is a big need

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Speaker 7: that you could address in the draft or in free agency,

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Speaker 7: because it's clear that they need some help in that room.

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Speaker 5: If you are going to see a switch between a

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Speaker 5: four to three and a three four, right, you're going

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Speaker 5: to see three down linemen instead of the four. Does

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Speaker 5: that change the roles that you see in the current

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Speaker 5: linebacker room?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, quite a quite a bit, right hit change your

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Speaker 4: entire defensive roster completely.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, But if you're going to do that, this is

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Speaker 5: kind of the time to do it because you don't

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Speaker 5: have a foundation to late with, right, it would be laid.

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Speaker 11: Down, and you have the defensive tackles to make a

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Speaker 11: three four work.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, you do you do.

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Speaker 4: To put an emphasis on the secondary so much I

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Speaker 4: I'm hard fetch to see them go to a three four.

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Speaker 3: You don't think so.

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Speaker 5: No, even with hiring an outside linebackers coach and and

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Speaker 5: an inside linebackers coach.

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Speaker 11: I think it's just them preaching multiples.

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Speaker 3: Do you think so yet?

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Speaker 2: Again?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, multiples is fine.

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Speaker 4: Three four is a very specific scheme, very specific scheme,

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Speaker 4: and it requires very specific position groups in terms of

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Speaker 4: those outside linebackers. Like it's a very particular personnel that

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Speaker 4: you have to have. It's not like it's interchangeable with

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Speaker 4: your three four I mean your four to three guys

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Speaker 4: and your three four guys.

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Speaker 6: It's just it's not you need.

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Speaker 4: If you're gonna have a three four, you need the

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00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 4: big fellows in an insight, which you already said that

667
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 4: you have. And if you're playing a three to four,

668
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 4: your stand up ends, okay, your stand up ends are

669
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 4: six four to two sixty two seventy. Yeah, is not

670
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 4: They're not two twenty, they're not two twenty five. It's

671
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 4: just not right because what they're being asked to do

672
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 4: is literally funnel everything in. Like as a three to

673
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 4: four outside linebacker, which is really a stand up defensive end.

674
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 4: These are big human beings that are tasked with capping

675
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 4: off the end of the line of scrimmage. There they

676
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 4: are literally the bottleneck. Hey, everything stays inside, nothing gets outside.

677
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 4: So that means those guys are literally their job is

678
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 4: to take on offensive tackles and tight ends.

679
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's their role.

680
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 4: So your current personnel at linebacker doesn't allow for that.

681
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 4: And if you're going to go get guys, now, you're

682
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 4: literally you're hoarding defensive ends. And last time I check,

683
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 4: you don't have a bunch of those.

684
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 3: No, not that you feel confident that anyway.

685
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 4: So, I mean, you're you're talking about going if you

686
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 4: were to become a primarily three four defense, you're talking

687
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 4: about going and acquiring five six guys that are six

688
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 4: four six' five two hundred and sixty plus.

689
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 6: Pounds you get big.

690
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 4: Guys, yeah like you have to go literally go get

691
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 4: all these. Guys and last, time those guys aren't just laying. Around, No,

692
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 4: no that's hard to.

693
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 10: Find and you've Got.

694
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 5: Clowney you've got Your David clowney. In that's kind of your.

695
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 5: Guy that's if you resign. Him he's also, yeah.

696
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 3: He's a free.

697
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 6: Agent BUT i mean you would need to go Find

698
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 6: James houston.

699
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 5: Is probably undersized for that He's donovan has rock who

700
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 5: is definitely under definitely un. Size for, that you loved

701
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 5: it and rest in, peace Marshn neland you would have

702
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 5: loved to have him in that spot because he's a

703
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 5: bigger body defensive.

704
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 3: End he's a guy that.

705
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 5: Can be an edge rusher and could have stopped the

706
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 5: run and could have been that outside linebacker.

707
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 4: Spot it would have been. Perfect But donovan as a.

708
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 4: Rock if he puts on twenty, pounds maybe he could

709
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 4: be your. Guy he could be a. GUY i don't

710
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 4: know about your. Guy you can want him to put

711
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 4: on twenty.

712
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 3: POUNDS i don't.

713
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 6: KNOW i think he has to has to put on

714
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 6: at least.

715
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 3: Ten regardless of the. Change, yeah, yeah.

716
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 7: Regardless let me ask you this as a fan who's

717
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 7: also curious of your perception of just the game.

718
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 10: Of football and how it's. Evolving if you have what's.

719
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 3: That, so you're not a, fan you're a.

720
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 6: Reporter it's a fan of.

721
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 3: Football.

722
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 7: Okay if you have the defensive tackle personnel That dallas,

723
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 7: has where they're so big and so, powerful do you

724
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 7: feel like you can have some of those undersized guys

725
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 7: and push them out a little bit more and just

726
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 7: let them pin their ears. Back if those three guys

727
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 7: take up as a three four, four, yeah, no you

728
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 7: don't think they can go five man put two pen

729
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 7: your ears.

730
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 10: Back pass, rushers no Item, no Because.

731
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 4: I'm down down and. Around If i'm, Offense i'm down,

732
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 4: Down i'm taking my. Tackle i'm cracking on the on

733
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 4: the five, technique and Then i'm Getting i'm pulling my

734
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 4: guard And i'm getting out on your defensive end slash outside,

735
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 4: linebacker And i'm kicking him out and then we're off and.

736
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 6: Running.

737
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 11: Mmm it's if you're set the, edge regardless.

738
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 4: If You're if you can't set the edge in a three,

739
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 4: four you're not running a three. Four it's the reason

740
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 4: why every, three every successful three four has had bigger.

741
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 4: Guys they're literally defensive ends that are standing up like

742
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 4: old school defensive, end not the new Age i'm talking,

743
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 4: about like The Miles, garretts the, clownies like these massive

744
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 4: human beings right that can set the, edge and three

745
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 4: hundred and thirty pounders can't move them because that's what

746
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 4: you're asking them to.

747
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 6: Do you're asking me to come off.

748
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 4: The, edge put my one hand in your hold you,

749
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 4: there and make sure that no running back can get

750
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 4: outside of.

751
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 6: ME i can't do that two hundred and thirty.

752
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 4: Pounds WHEN i was, playing WHEN i played tight end

753
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 4: at the end of my, CAREER i was playing In

754
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 4: jacksonville With Mercedes. LEWIS i would Kick Mercedes, lewis but

755
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 4: in the weight room and everybody else in the weight,

756
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 4: ROOM i was a weightroom. STRAW i was weightroom, strong

757
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 4: BUT i was two hundred and forty pounds and they

758
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 4: put my hand in the. GROUND i was supposed to

759
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 4: be playing hybrid tight end Like hernandez, right that was that.

760
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,479
Speaker 4: Age but they would put me in a wing position

761
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 4: AND I mercedes would be at line of. Scrimmage i'd

762
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 4: be in a wing set and they would have me

763
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 4: go try to crack back on these three four defensive defensive.

764
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 4: LINEMEN i couldn't do. IT i physically couldn't do. IT

765
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 4: i was strong enough to do, it BUT.

766
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 6: I couldn't do.

767
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 4: IT i had the, WHEEL i had the, DETERMINATION i

768
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 4: had the. Angles when they're three hundred pounds And i'm two,

769
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 4: forty it doesn't matter what the weight room.

770
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 6: Says it just. Doesn't physics alone just says no. Play

771
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 6: you can't do your.

772
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 4: Job so Like that's one of the reasons why it

773
00:33:58,440 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 4: just didn't work out for me, there AND i was

774
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 4: done BECAUSE i couldn't do what was being asked to me.

775
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 5: Physically so in order to make a switch to three,

776
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 5: four because it feels like there's a large number Of

777
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 5: cowboys fans that are convinced that it's going to be

778
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 5: a three to, Four i'm kind of with. YOU i

779
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 5: don't think it's going to. BE i think it's going

780
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 5: to be more of a. Multiple it's going to be

781
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 5: a four to three and we're going to see a

782
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,720
Speaker 5: lot of that as the base and then some od manfronts.

783
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 3: Here situation.

784
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 5: Situational with that being, said where do you feel like

785
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 5: the need is at? LINEBACKER i don't want to necessarily

786
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 5: talk defensive ends, yet but where is the linebacker? Need

787
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 5: is it free agency veterans or do you need young

788
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 5: talent that you can build on and develop at?

789
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 11: Linebacker, well, CURRENTLY i would say free agency BECAUSE i

790
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 11: think there are proven guys that are headed to free

791
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 11: agency that you can count on because you currently have

792
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 11: no true coverage eraser if you look at the targets

793
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 11: of the guys that you currently. Have this is Disregarding

794
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 11: murray And sanborn who probably won't be, back like we.

795
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 11: Said But Shamar james thirty one, targets twenty eight, catches

796
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 11: Over shown twelve, targets ten, Catches Leah fou eleven, targets ten,

797
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 11: Catches wilson thirteen, catches thirteen, targets nine. Catches that is

798
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 11: just a very high percentage pass completion against these guys

799
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 11: because they are running to the, play they're not, diagnosing

800
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 11: and they're not sticking in the.

801
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 2: Pocket.

802
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 11: Right my thing with getting a new linebackers that you

803
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 11: want somebody that is established as a guy that has,

804
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 11: longevity a guy that is, stable a guy that can

805
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 11: diagnose plays and is, available so all of those things

806
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 11: just get just grab that guy. Right there are names

807
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 11: out there and you would have to really fight for

808
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 11: him because they could get franchise tag who, Knows but

809
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 11: at least for me right, now you want a guy

810
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 11: that's established in the. League you had a chance for

811
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 11: that With Bobby wagner a few years, ago didn't take. It,

812
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 11: ISAIAH i will, say was one to really champion that

813
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 11: and he played pretty. Well SO i think you want

814
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,919
Speaker 11: to get an established in free agency because they still work.

815
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 6: Out, yeah those.

816
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 11: Linebackers you want somebody that has that that, wisdom that

817
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 11: intelligence for your diagnosing.

818
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 4: Play understand this as you're AND i stand on the.

819
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 4: Table i've said this. BEFORE i believe that linebacker is

820
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 4: the easiest position on the defense to go get a

821
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 4: established player free. Agency so that's not the diminished. Position

822
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 4: that's just to say that it's easier to plug a

823
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 4: linebacker into your system than it is any other position

824
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 4: group on the. Defense corners and safeties cost a. Premium

825
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 4: it makes more, sense especially, corners especially, corners, Right so

826
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 4: it makes more sense to go draft those guys and

827
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 4: develop those guys than it is to try to go grab.

828
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 6: One of those guys in free agency and think that

829
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 6: that's going to change your entire.

830
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 5: Defense AND i think the reason why they are a

831
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 5: premium and why they are as expensive is that it's

832
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 5: rare that those draft and developed guys ARE nfl ready.

833
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 3: Immediately oh, yeah.

834
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 5: Position, absolutely there's a couple of those, guys but they're

835
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 5: going to go top fifty.

836
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 6: And there's very.

837
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 4: FEW i, mean you'd be hard fetched to name ten

838
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 4: dominant corners in this. League, yeah it's just a position

839
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 4: that that's the. Premium it's not an easy position to.

840
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 6: Play it's a week to week two, absolutely, Right.

841
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,919
Speaker 4: So it's easier. Ones it's better to go develop those.

842
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 4: Guys get some, young talented guys that fit your scheme

843
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 4: that you can develop with. Coaching, right you're seeing an

844
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 4: emphasis on. Coaching we saw that with the offensive line

845
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 4: last year as. Well, right they're putting a huge emphasis

846
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 4: on coaching those guys. Up it's harder to go find

847
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 4: guys at those, positions so get him in a. Draft

848
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 4: linebacker is a position, that again you. Need he's the

849
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 4: quarterback of the defense typically all, right most defenses you.

850
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 4: Need you would prefer to have an experienced quarterback than

851
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 4: you would have a young quarterback that hasn't seen. Much

852
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 4: the same reason why you want to experience middle linebacker

853
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 4: versus a young linebacker that hasn't seen. Much these offenses

854
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 4: are co complex, now it is what it. Is so

855
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 4: you need that guy to have the wisdom to have

856
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 4: the fortitude and have the command in respect of everybody around,

857
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 4: him to be able to communicate what is being told

858
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 4: to him by his defensive coordinator and be able to

859
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 4: make sure that everybody is doing what they need to.

860
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 4: Do you need wisdom for that reason WHY i stood

861
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 4: on the table For. Bobby bobby's gonna put your defense in.

862
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 4: Position whether the guys around them can do, IT i don't, know,

863
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 4: right but he's gonna see, it diagnose, it and put

864
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 4: guys in. Position the guys that they still talk about

865
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 4: around that there were great linebackers for The. Cowboys what

866
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 4: were they able to? Do see, it diagnose, it put

867
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 4: guys in. Position you need that at that middle linebacker.

868
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 4: Position SO i would much rather The cowboys spend some

869
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 4: money and go get a solid piece to put in

870
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 4: the middle and then use this, talented physically talented group

871
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 4: that is hungry and, eager that can, learn that's. Smart

872
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 4: put those guys on the outside of those, guys and

873
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 4: then you can have a go defense that can play

874
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 4: well at the second.

875
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 3: Level so you need a dog at.

876
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 4: Linebacker you need a least you need a, smart well

877
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 4: respected dude that when the quarterback steps to the line of,

878
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 4: scrimmage he's, like, crap this is a chess. Game the

879
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 4: quarterback needs to get to the line of. Scrimmage the

880
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 4: center gets, down puts his hand on the, ball and

881
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 4: he looks at that dude square in his, eyes like

882
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 4: all right, here we go, RIGHT i make a, change

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Speaker 5: us all? Right moving on to Offensive, tackle same, questions, Gentlemen,

945
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 5: josh what do they have at offensive Tax.

946
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 11: Well they currently have under contract under Contract Tyler, Guiden Trump,

947
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 11: Pick Terrence, Steele Nate, thomas And Hakeema dinighi has a

948
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 11: depth piece. There as far as coaching, changes you haven't

949
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 11: really seen a whole. Lot Connor riley's still sticking around

950
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 11: as far as we, know but they did Add Kyle

951
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,479
Speaker 11: fuller as an assistant offensive line slash quality control. Coach,

952
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 11: yeah that's what you currently have.

953
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 6: Tonight you have three of coaches.

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00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 3: Kind of.

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00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 5: Arguably, arguably the question now, becomes and this is the

956
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 5: question that a lot of.

957
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 3: People have been asking on other.

958
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 5: Spots i'm okay asking the question Because i've said it

959
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 5: from the last three years or.

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00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 3: More are you ready to move on From terrence To?

961
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 6: No?

962
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 3: No, okay why is? THAT i like the stability.

963
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 6: THERE i like you.

964
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 11: Still, YEAH i think at least if the rest of

965
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 11: the line is performing, WELL i don't think he's going

966
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 11: to bring you down a. Lot eleven sacks in twenty

967
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 11: twenty five is very. Concerning, yeah he didn't have a

968
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 11: three year it's not. Great, Yeah i'm not giving up

969
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 11: on him because of that. Year, no not at. All

970
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 11: and if you're able to restructure his contract a, BIT

971
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 11: i don't see a problem with where he's at BECAUSE

972
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 11: i don't think that's the be all end.

973
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 5: All if you, Restructure i'm. Cool, yeah if you, Restructure

974
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 5: I'm i'm. Good but with what they're paying, now, yes

975
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 5: and the production that he's given, you not just this past,

976
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 5: year but over the course of the.

977
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 3: Contract, yes he hasn't lived up to that. Number that's.

978
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 3: Fair that's a lot of.

979
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 4: Guys, unfortunately you're, right get the, contract the play falls.

980
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 4: OFF i would, assume AND i put this on both.

981
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 4: PARTIES i put this ON t still to, analyze to self.

982
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 4: SCOUT i just saw some of the coaches in. THERE i,

983
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 4: said what are you all up to this? Week he

984
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 4: says self? Scouting he said. Awesome, RIGHT i would assume

985
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 4: that he still self scouting himself and analyzing and, saying,

986
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 4: hey you know, what that's NOT.

987
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 6: T steey out. There that Was that was just THIS.

988
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 6: Ts that WASN'T T.

989
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 4: Steely so he needs to get back to BEING T,

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00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 4: steey somebody who's who's sound wasn't. Dominant he's never been,

991
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 4: dominant but he's always been, sound right, Historically he's somebody

992
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 4: who has that dog in. Him that's something that we do, know, right,

993
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 4: SAID i don't question that ABOUT T still at. All

994
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 4: he's he'll go to he'll go fight for anybody on

995
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:50,720
Speaker 4: the offensive line and injuries, whatever all this stuff, happens,

996
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 4: Right but HE i would have put the responsibility on

997
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 4: the coaches as well to, say, hey you guys have

998
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:59,280
Speaker 4: invested so much with this office on line, coaching y'all

999
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 4: need to take somebody who has the will Determination if

1000
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 4: that's the. Case, STILL i haven't talked to him will

1001
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 4: determination and ability and make sure that he's who you

1002
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 4: guys need him to. Be and AGAIN i put that

1003
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 4: on both, parties the player and the. Coaches but T

1004
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 4: still is. Capable he's. CAPABLE i don't Think i've never

1005
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 4: seen T still switch it. Off have you seen him

1006
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 4: had bad? Play, yes you see that with every player

1007
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 4: in the, league Right you just don't want to see

1008
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 4: that other players that you're paying a lot of money.

1009
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 4: Too but it still happens as you switch to the other.

1010
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 4: Side that's WHERE i have. Questions, HMMM i have questions there.

1011
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 4: TOO i JUST i have more questions there THAN i

1012
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 4: do with the right.

1013
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 11: Side, okay, well really quick, though what was your purview

1014
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 11: on Steel.

1015
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 7: Steele, is like sleepy one of the biggest decisions this

1016
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 7: team has this.

1017
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 10: Offseason to a.

1018
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 7: Degree you understand why they'd want to keep him because

1019
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 7: he is such a plus for you in the run.

1020
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 9: Game.

1021
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 7: YEP i think he And Tyler booker when they ran right.

1022
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 7: Side they had a lot of success with. It those

1023
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 7: two dudes were just moving. Yep and it's not surprising

1024
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 7: Because Zach martin loved playing With Terrence steele because those

1025
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 7: two did the same. Thing so from a run game,

1026
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 7: perspective with how good this offensive line was schematically and

1027
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 7: how good of a Job Clayton adams And Connor riley

1028
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 7: did just setting things up to run the, FOOTBALL i

1029
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 7: can understand why they'd want to Keep Terrence. Steele it's

1030
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:29,439
Speaker 7: the past protection that really worries. You and he said

1031
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 7: the injury stuff that he's dealt with and is he

1032
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 7: ever going to be back to what he was before

1033
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 7: that that's the tough, part especially because of the money

1034
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 7: that he's going to cost you and the fact that

1035
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 7: they're thirty million in the red already, yep in cap

1036
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 7: space with so many. Holes now if you let them,

1037
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 7: go you'd be creating another hole.

1038
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 10: ESSENTIALLY i understand.

1039
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 7: That but my question would be how confident is this

1040
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 7: staff in their ability to develop guys and put a

1041
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 7: guy in there and allow them to fill that. Role

1042
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 7: because if you get if you feel like any the

1043
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 7: guys like A Nate thomas who had A i think

1044
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 7: roller coaster is a good word for. It of a

1045
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 7: year they drafted A Johnny cornelius in the sixth round last.

1046
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 7: Year is he a guy that you could played attack Oled?

1047
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 7: Oregon is he a guy that you maybe want to

1048
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 7: give a chance? To there Goes isaiah's. Opinion it's it's

1049
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 7: very interesting as it as it stands right. NOW I

1050
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 7: i think there's just too much he's being held. Back if,

1051
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 7: YOU i don't know how much you would save, restructuring

1052
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 7: you would save.

1053
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 10: A lot more by letting him.

1054
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 7: Walk, yeah and so that that makes me kind of

1055
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 7: lean that, Way BUT i could see them going either.

1056
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 5: Way the dead cap this, year by the, way the

1057
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 5: dead cap if you were to let him walk would

1058
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,479
Speaker 5: be seven point, three so or excuse, me nine point.

1059
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 5: Three so that's what it would. Take but his cap

1060
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,439
Speaker 5: hit is twice. That it's eighteen point.

1061
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 11: Two let me ask. YOU i, mean this is a longer,

1062
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 11: conversation but just to end it really quickly On, steel

1063
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 11: if you do not restructure, him if you don't keep,

1064
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 11: him you're then relying on who knows that right. Tackle

1065
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 11: and then Also Tyler, goydon who has not been.

1066
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 10: Available, yep that's what makes it really.

1067
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 7: Tough that's what makes its last just one of the

1068
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 7: tough decisions they've got this. Year because if you are

1069
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 7: if you are left to tackle with two big question,

1070
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 7: marks that could.

1071
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 5: Be what you have going even if you keep both of. Those, sure,

1072
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 5: yeah it's a question market both.

1073
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 10: Spots that has the potential to be.

1074
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 5: Disastrous he's been one of the worst pass blocking tackles

1075
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 5: in football the last two.

1076
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 3: Years but he's such a good.

1077
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 10: Run but he is a great, run which is what

1078
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 10: makes it really.

1079
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 6: Hard so do you think that he could be a

1080
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 6: good pass?

1081
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 3: BLOCKER i hope, so because we have.

1082
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 5: There's been one year where he's been a solid, passport

1083
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 5: so we know he's and it's what earned him the,

1084
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 5: contract so we know.

1085
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 6: He's kep doing.

1086
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 4: It so then what responsibility falls on the? COACHES a

1087
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 4: lot of, THAT a lot of. It, Yeah, yeah it's

1088
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 4: not so it's not a capability, thing it's not a

1089
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 4: want to. Thing it's an execution. Thing so that falls

1090
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 4: on the player and the. Coaches like that's WHY i

1091
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 4: don't have an issue with T, Still, yes he needs

1092
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 4: to improve his game and he. WILL i foresee him

1093
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 4: improve in his, game but the coaches have to invest

1094
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 4: in him. Right there's other people WHO i don't even

1095
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,800
Speaker 4: know if they want to play THAT i can't.

1096
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:20,720
Speaker 10: HAVE i do agree with, that say the bigger questions

1097
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 10: on the left.

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Speaker 5: SIDE i Think i'm right there with, You but you

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Speaker 5: can't necessarily move on from, him can move on From Tyler?

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00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 5: Guidon now you have a question mark on what you

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00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 5: could do With Terrence. Steele With Tyler, goeydon there's not

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Speaker 5: a whole.

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Speaker 3: Lot and you can.

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Speaker 10: Do you just have to hope he stays. Healthy, yeah.

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00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 6: Exactly and one of.

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Speaker 3: The best things for him might be moving him to right.

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00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 5: Tackle let's be completely. Honest that's where his college tenure,

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00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 5: Was that's where he was comfortable. At he's played both positions.

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00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 5: Before he was better at right, tackle so that might

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00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 5: be what's best For.

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00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 6: Tyler do you know that he wants to be there

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00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 6: week in week? Out do you have that Confident Tyler, Guyton, yes.

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00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 3: That he wants to be at left tackle.

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00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 6: Or right that he wants to be here playing playing.

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00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 4: Available that has a question that gives, YOU i guess

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00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 4: answer like, that that's that's what.

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00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 3: Me then what do you do with?

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Speaker 4: THEM i don't. KNOW i the evaluation process was. Wrong

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00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 4: in my, opinion AND i don't put that on any.

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Speaker 4: GUY i just go off for WHAT i. SEE i

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00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 4: just go off for WHAT i, see and you. Can and,

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00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 4: again he has the power to turn it on or

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00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 4: turn it. Off we've seen that turn it, on turn it,

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00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 4: off injuries or. INJURIES a will and determination should never be.

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Speaker 4: Questioned in my, eyes that should never be questioned because

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00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 4: that's something that you're wholeheartedly in control. Of AND i

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Speaker 4: have questions WHEN i watch him at, PRACTICE i have

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Speaker 4: questions WHEN i watch him in. GAMES i don't want

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Speaker 4: to have questions about people who are tasked with with

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00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 4: with executing and who are tasked with protecting.

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Speaker 3: One of the top. Positions much.

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Speaker 4: So that's so when we, compare if we're comparing the

1133
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 4: tackles on this, roster the two starting, tackles one is

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00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,760
Speaker 4: a dog that is an absolute be still one aspect

1135
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 4: of his game doesn't turn it. Off may not be

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00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 4: the greater execution all the time as of, late right

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00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 4: has some injuries and things of that. Nature but you

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00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 4: know what you're gonna get. Right SO i can coach.

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00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 4: That you asked any, COACH i will.

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Speaker 6: Take that all day.

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00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 4: Long you can coach AROUND i can coach, that, yeah,

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Speaker 4: absolutely knowing whether or not that person wants wants to.

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Speaker 10: PLAY i.

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Speaker 4: CAN'T i can't do nothing with. That and, yes now

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00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 4: contractually they're in a. Bind and it can he be

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00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 4: an absolute? Beast he can be an absolute, beast can.

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Speaker 3: Be can be just. Hasn't it's a question.

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Speaker 5: Mark AND i think there's a split Between cowboys. Fans

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Speaker 5: i'm even trying to read like where the chat is,

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Speaker 5: leaning AND i don't have a spot whether they're leaning

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Speaker 5: one way or the. Other if you do have an

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00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:48,439
Speaker 5: opinion on, this reply To Talking cowboys ON x reply

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Speaker 5: to the live. STREAM i want to see what people are,

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Speaker 5: thinking so that way we can kind of look through

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Speaker 5: it as.

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Speaker 6: Well don't draft.

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Speaker 3: ONE i don't think. That please don't not the first.

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Speaker 5: Round unless you just go unbelievably spend happy in free

1159
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 5: agency and revamp your entire, defense then we can maybe

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Speaker 5: talk about.

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Speaker 3: It maybe, Maybe but that's a Long there's a.

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Speaker 6: Lot that happened To Jason. Peters he's only forty, eight.

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Speaker 3: He was already. HERE i think there are bigger.

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Speaker 2: Problems all.

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Speaker 5: Right that does it for us here On Talking. Cowboys

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00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 5: hope you had fun with us over the last. Hour

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Speaker 5: we will be back Next tuesday to break it all

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Speaker 5: On Dallas cowboys Dot. Com thanks again For Tommy yarsh

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00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,919
Speaker 5: filling in this. Week we might see him again next.

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Speaker 5: Week For Josh, Rodriguez isaiah stand, Back Chris beam in the.

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