Speaker 1: We like to welcome everyone to another episode of The
Speaker 1: Kings the Chronicles Podcast with my dog up in here. Change.
Speaker 1: What's going on? Brother? Right? Not much man, Jenny Man
Speaker 1: been running around man like chicken with my head cut off,
Speaker 1: man for about the last month or so. Just really,
Speaker 1: you know, we gotta get the new season when we
Speaker 1: wind down on this season right here and looked at it, man.
Speaker 1: You know, we have eleven seasons in now bro God damn,
Speaker 1: eleven seasons in bro Um. A lot of changes to
Speaker 1: the show since the beginning for real, you know, and
Speaker 1: we've never we've never really talked about it, man, but
Speaker 1: we've been through so many changes on the show. Um.
Speaker 1: The show has grown so much to where it's almost unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you know, he's looking at it and look at
Speaker 1: where the times when you know, because I remember the
Speaker 1: first episode, you know, Hex you went Regie up there,
Speaker 1: y'all mat be at the studio and we knocked it
Speaker 1: out and I knew it could be something the man.
Speaker 1: But I was like, Man, I said, Man, James don't
Speaker 1: like the talk. I knew you weren't really ready to
Speaker 1: open up like that yet, I said, James don't like
Speaker 1: the talk. And Reggie don't really like the talk. Reggie
Speaker 1: wasn't the Reggie that he is the Reggie now, right right,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it was it was
Speaker 1: just kind of just it was on my mind the
Speaker 1: other day, man, and not about the bad moments necessarily,
Speaker 1: all the controversy and all the bullshit, just time and itself. Man.
Speaker 1: We came a long way though. Yeah, yeah, I never
Speaker 1: thought I would be doing the ship like this. I
Speaker 1: uh I really didn't have a conversation for nothing, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, but family. And you know, when
Speaker 1: I did the first video ever that was with Greg,
Speaker 1: I uh I felt a relief in me when I
Speaker 1: did that. So getting with you and red it kind
Speaker 1: of it had me scared, like, man, nobody want to
Speaker 1: in the old Nack Talking ship. And uh I found
Speaker 1: that through some of my conversation. It gave me a
Speaker 1: healing and it helps some other people. So Man, I'm
Speaker 1: glad I did it. I'm glad I did it. I'm
Speaker 1: glad you did it too, man, and saw are a
Speaker 1: lot of other people that that was one of the
Speaker 1: things man, that I really wanted to touch on, you know,
Speaker 1: because as we come up in this next upcoming new season. Um,
Speaker 1: we're always thinking about ways to make the show better,
Speaker 1: to improve upon the show, to make it more interesting.
Speaker 1: And I know our focus is going to be more
Speaker 1: geared towards crime, talking about crimes, that's what it is.
Speaker 1: We forget that sometimes we have all these dayn rappers
Speaker 1: and everybody else on here. You know, they're supposed to
Speaker 1: be a podcast for the streets. It's supposed to be
Speaker 1: about what's going on, you know, in the underworld, right,
Speaker 1: so you know, we start doing stuff like like talking
Speaker 1: about the Christopher Dorner cat, the police officer they shot,
Speaker 1: all those people, doing stuff like talking about how the
Speaker 1: Mexican Mafia was formed. You know, just episodes and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. Y'all be on the lookout for. We're about
Speaker 1: to take everything to another level. You know, it's time
Speaker 1: to go to the level, you know, and I know
Speaker 1: our man. Um. I talked to Jeff the the day
Speaker 1: he told me to Sammy the Bull wanted to come
Speaker 1: back on the show. Yea. He was a good interview
Speaker 1: for me. You know a lot of people, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, criticized that. Did they think about it? But
Speaker 1: you know you kind of have to really like listen
Speaker 1: to and chalk. But you know, that was a good interview,
Speaker 1: it was a good person, it was you know, and
Speaker 1: then that's what I get, you know. You know, if
Speaker 1: I had to do all over again, same as, I
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't have called the show Gangster Chronicles because it
Speaker 1: just puts you in a box, right, because when people
Speaker 1: think about the gangster on the West Coast, they automatically
Speaker 1: go to some bloot of essay they don't think about,
Speaker 1: you know, all the other connotations of the game is
Speaker 1: used for, you know what I mean, like the Irish
Speaker 1: gangs of the Italian Games, or gangs in Africa, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, all over the world, and that's where we go.
Speaker 1: That's why we go start covering that stuff because it's
Speaker 1: so much bigger than just loss Answers, is so much
Speaker 1: bigger than just California the West Coast itself, you know,
Speaker 1: right right, there's a lot of really interesting stuff out there. Man.
Speaker 1: I've been doing my research for this, so this gonna
Speaker 1: have me really on top of my production game, you know,
Speaker 1: as far as producing this type of stuff and actually
Speaker 1: getting you guys to where you're all comfortable doing that
Speaker 1: type of stuff. You know, that's cool with me. I'm
Speaker 1: with whatever. You know. Um, you know the good thing
Speaker 1: for me, I've met a lot of people through this,
Speaker 1: through Games Chronicles. I don't think I would have changed
Speaker 1: Games Chachronicle, the name of it. Um, you know, it's
Speaker 1: just gives a person a different look at what the
Speaker 1: gangster is. You know what I'm saying, Like you said,
Speaker 1: it's it's not about being that street nigga or whatever,
Speaker 1: you know, being gangster and being able to talk about,
Speaker 1: you know, some of the things. You know, a lot
Speaker 1: of people laugh at me, like how this nigga was
Speaker 1: out there in the street like that, but he didn't
Speaker 1: get so emotional because now it's totally different. It's totally different.
Speaker 1: I don't see gangster as you know, Bob James with
Speaker 1: a gun in his hand. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I see what I'm doing today, you know, taking care
Speaker 1: of my family, my grandkids. You know, that's gangster to me.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I'm doing what the man
Speaker 1: is supposed to do. So I ain't not there on
Speaker 1: childish ship. And you know a lot of people look
Speaker 1: at it a certain way, should I say, And then
Speaker 1: there's a lot of positive that has came out of it,
Speaker 1: So I wanted to change Gangst chronicles. I think the
Speaker 1: name fit. It's it's who we are, you know what
Speaker 1: I wouldn't you know, of course, And I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: man like, in hindsight, looking back, of course, I'm glad
Speaker 1: I did think of the name. Maybe it wouldn't have
Speaker 1: done as well without being called that. And I look
Speaker 1: at the number of shows that we've inspired, right like,
Speaker 1: we've inspired other people to go out and do their thing.
Speaker 1: And I get some of my partners, they ask you,
Speaker 1: man such and such and them as copying y'alls, and
Speaker 1: you get mad. I said no, because when you focused
Speaker 1: on what you're doing, you're not really worried about what
Speaker 1: nobody else got going on. Good for them brothers, if
Speaker 1: they if they figured out a way to do to
Speaker 1: make them a couple of dollars for their families, more
Speaker 1: power to them. They're not stopping nothing we're doing, right.
Speaker 1: I applaud everybody, But you know, I think it went.
Speaker 1: It's a total it's in the total um blacketness we
Speaker 1: are because we don't talk about this ship that most
Speaker 1: talk about. We don't get on here and we don't
Speaker 1: break down the you know, try to bring down another
Speaker 1: black man and we don't, um, we don't hoglan and
Speaker 1: fuss over this this internet ship, you know. So it's
Speaker 1: totally different from me because if it was the way
Speaker 1: it is and the ship that I see, I would
Speaker 1: have did it. I don't have time to argue with
Speaker 1: another grown man over a phone or you know, in
Speaker 1: a camera. I don't have time for this ship, so,
Speaker 1: you know, teach his own. But however they do it,
Speaker 1: and I mean they're getting paid by Fugu, well you know,
Speaker 1: and then that's my thing. James. It's like, really, man,
Speaker 1: this is how I feel about that stuff. Life is
Speaker 1: already hard enough to heels man without bringing a bunch
Speaker 1: of negative undis in your world. I don't talk about
Speaker 1: negative stuff. Man. If somebody called my line was negative
Speaker 1: stuff from cut them off quick and say, hey man,
Speaker 1: I don't too much care for all that oh sex
Speaker 1: sluck saying that good for him. So you didn't see it,
Speaker 1: nor to see I don't look at that ship, so
Speaker 1: don't bother. Mean then I'm too busy over trying to
Speaker 1: you know, pay my mortgage man and take care of
Speaker 1: my business, you know about with your little guy going on, right,
Speaker 1: It was a process for me though, norm because you know,
Speaker 1: I've never had to really deal with ship like that.
Speaker 1: Um for me is hand of your business. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, that phone gangster ship and not if
Speaker 1: you know all that, you know tepping what line just
Speaker 1: came in? So you know with all that other stuff.
Speaker 1: You know, like you said, who got time for that?
Speaker 1: You know I got I got other things I got
Speaker 1: to do. Man. You know, I'm a full blown nanny
Speaker 1: and ship. You know, I was climbing the line on
Speaker 1: the other day, you know, turn me into a nanny
Speaker 1: boy that it was cooking clean and ship. So it
Speaker 1: ain't nothing wrong with that, man. You know, with James,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, man, that's one of my propert
Speaker 1: things that day. You know, I still wake up every
Speaker 1: morning cook breakfast from my kids. That's good, that's cool man. Home.
Speaker 1: It's just a habit, man. They just you know that.
Speaker 1: My daughter tell me Dad, what you're cooking this morning?
Speaker 1: What you want mom? You know he's got some sauce,
Speaker 1: your eggs. And I just just a habit, man. I Uh,
Speaker 1: yesterday I got up and I made pancakes and bacon
Speaker 1: before he went to school. So We're up at six
Speaker 1: six thirty eating breakfast. He dressed six fifty five. Way
Speaker 1: off the door, he right down the streets. So I
Speaker 1: take him to school. He gets out the car and
Speaker 1: grab his backpack, and I wait till he walked into
Speaker 1: the building. Man, it is I think I can honestly saying,
Speaker 1: I'm proud of myself for, you know, being able to
Speaker 1: do this, because where would I be What would I
Speaker 1: be doing if I didn't, I wouldn't be doing what
Speaker 1: I'm doing now. So even with all of my little
Speaker 1: medical ship and all of that, I still do what
Speaker 1: I gotta do, you know what I'm saying. So I
Speaker 1: applaud every woman out there, single moms. I apply to maha, man,
Speaker 1: because this, you know, I've never seen it like this
Speaker 1: on the outside looking in. Man, they got a hell
Speaker 1: of a job there, bro, very important job. Man, they
Speaker 1: got a way important job. You think about it. Women
Speaker 1: have been doing it for years. Man, I applaud him.
Speaker 1: I've never paid attention to the things my mom said.
Speaker 1: How hard can it be? That's all I used to think. Bro,
Speaker 1: this is I'm hard. This is hard, taking care of kids,
Speaker 1: trying to take care of the house hold, by yourself,
Speaker 1: doing your thing, making sure he in the bath tub,
Speaker 1: making sure school working. All this this ship is hard, man.
Speaker 1: So I'm good though, and being a parent, don't stop, James,
Speaker 1: and my oldest is the term thirty years old dog.
Speaker 1: And I haven't. I'm still a popper, right, man, If
Speaker 1: if if all of us can stand up today and
Speaker 1: just say I'm proud to be a pops and and
Speaker 1: and and pitch in and do what you gotta do
Speaker 1: instead of being mad at the baby mama, instead of
Speaker 1: the baby mama, taking the kids away from the type
Speaker 1: of ship and learn how to co parents. Man, we
Speaker 1: will be good. Well that's all, you know. So you
Speaker 1: know I wanted to get into a little bit of things. Man.
Speaker 1: You know, I was riding on I was coming back
Speaker 1: from Manso's house yesterday, right and I was listening to
Speaker 1: the radio. Man they said that day've caught a bunch
Speaker 1: of people that are in high positions of power. Found
Speaker 1: out they belonged to that racist group, the Proud Boys.
Speaker 1: They found police lieutenants, police captain's officers, many people, man,
Speaker 1: many people. When they had the convergence on um on
Speaker 1: the White House. You know when Trump left off, is
Speaker 1: I always wondered how those people, that many people got
Speaker 1: even that close to the White House to do what
Speaker 1: they did right? Right? That was all like the police
Speaker 1: pretty much said they was a part of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and norm I keep saying, what makes just because you
Speaker 1: are authority figure, what makes you think you can't be corrupt?
Speaker 1: What makes you think they're better than the guys they
Speaker 1: out there arresting as gang members. Now, I know white
Speaker 1: people see it different, but we can't see it different.
Speaker 1: You got police officers going to jail way back in time,
Speaker 1: going to jail for robberies, going to jail for assault
Speaker 1: nigh wives. So what makes you think that he can't
Speaker 1: get his ship together? That just would be like me.
Speaker 1: You know, I am ex gang member, but they allowed
Speaker 1: me to be a poetic police officer because I never
Speaker 1: got up and never been arrested. Now I'm a cop.
Speaker 1: Now I'm in my old hood, you know, doing my
Speaker 1: beating ship, and I'm letting a slide that you know,
Speaker 1: robbing motherfucker's I'm a part of it. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm no different. White people are no different
Speaker 1: from us man, everybody, and they from the beginning of time.
Speaker 1: How do you think they got it all. They always
Speaker 1: been crooks. And I'm not just speaking just I'm not
Speaker 1: speaking for all. But man, we got cops out here,
Speaker 1: we got fire department out here, we got doctors, lawyers,
Speaker 1: all kind of shipped out here. That's, you know, on
Speaker 1: the other side of defense. That's straight over. So come on.
Speaker 1: But James, this is scary to say though, and it's
Speaker 1: not not in correction. Everybody is not the Proud Boys.
Speaker 1: It's the old Keepers, they said. The Old Keepers members
Speaker 1: list includes hundreds of law enforcement officers, politicians, military members.
Speaker 1: This is really like, this is something, Jane, listen this
Speaker 1: The names of hundreds of US law enforcement officers, elected officials,
Speaker 1: and military members appear on the league membership roles of
Speaker 1: a far right extremists group that's accused of playing key
Speaker 1: role in the January six, two thousand twenty one ride
Speaker 1: at the US Capital. According to a report, at least Wednesday,
Speaker 1: the Anti Defamation League Center of Extremism Board over more
Speaker 1: than thirty eight thousand names on leak Off Keepers membership
Speaker 1: list and identified more than three hundred seventy people that
Speaker 1: believes currently working law enforcement agencies, including his police chiefs
Speaker 1: and shriffes and more than one hundred people who are
Speaker 1: currently members of the military. It also identified more than
Speaker 1: eighty people who were running for or served in public
Speaker 1: office as of earlier August. The membership information was compiled
Speaker 1: into a database published by the Transparency Collected Distributed Noledge secrets.
Speaker 1: You know, this praises a lot of concerns right here.
Speaker 1: What this is scary? You know, Um, you got all
Speaker 1: these people that are in positions of power. They are
Speaker 1: supposed to be able to look at everyone with some
Speaker 1: kind of ambiguity, right, us all being the same, Right,
Speaker 1: it shouldn't be the thing when the police pulled you
Speaker 1: over in your car, that's a black that that's a
Speaker 1: nigger right there, I'm aroused him up or he passed
Speaker 1: by a white person that maybe bring the long on
Speaker 1: and let him slide, you know, because they have no way.
Speaker 1: That's almost like you being like like like police officers
Speaker 1: being cryps of blood. Stamn. There. It's just another form
Speaker 1: of the game, that's all. That's what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: it's like it's like and then you look at all
Speaker 1: this ship they don't find in Trump's house. It makes
Speaker 1: you really think Trump had some ship in this house. Dog.
Speaker 1: Trump is a gamester dog, you know, motherfucker. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think everybody really pay attention to real life.
Speaker 1: Real life. Man, All black people ain't evil. All these
Speaker 1: brothers out here hanging with gang members ain't evil. And
Speaker 1: you got guys like myself that that understand they wrong
Speaker 1: doing and in a certain situation and they find their
Speaker 1: way out of it. But for us, it's too late
Speaker 1: because we figured this ship out at the old age,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But but these people have
Speaker 1: been doing it and been under that that call for
Speaker 1: a long time, you know what I'm saying. So come on, man,
Speaker 1: it's not surprising everything every every black man that went
Speaker 1: to jail, it's good or bad, because you see it
Speaker 1: today on on on on this social media ship where
Speaker 1: a judge was pulled over and he was treated bad
Speaker 1: until they found out who he was, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So when they when they go out there
Speaker 1: and and and they profiled, We profiled every day wherever
Speaker 1: we go. If you got a hat on while you
Speaker 1: ride in the car, if it's red or blue, it's
Speaker 1: only cracking. He got to have something in his car.
Speaker 1: You can have a great beard, a whole nine. That
Speaker 1: don't matter. It don't matter. So look at look at Trump,
Speaker 1: look at look at all of these other uh people
Speaker 1: have influenced and and tell me they're going to jail,
Speaker 1: go on besselment and all of this other ship. Come on, man,
Speaker 1: it's it's a crook. Is a crook. Yeah, and that's
Speaker 1: what he yield is. Man. But you ever wondered, oh, man,
Speaker 1: look at this, this motherfucker Trump. This dude is uh,
Speaker 1: this dude is something else. Man, he said, you know,
Speaker 1: he hasd stuff about nuclear arms in this house, dude,
Speaker 1: about how to attack certain other countries and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: What is you need the president? No, wh what do
Speaker 1: you have that ship in your house for? Well? Did
Speaker 1: he have that ship because when he was president, he
Speaker 1: was trying to figure out what the president should do.
Speaker 1: I mean, it could have been all kind of reasons,
Speaker 1: but he should have had that ship in a better
Speaker 1: place than where he had it. That ship ain't supposed
Speaker 1: to go nowhere, but he got it. So Trump is
Speaker 1: a different breed. She's the only thing about Trump. He
Speaker 1: some things he had in the closet, but that motherfucker's
Speaker 1: is straight one with his ship. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and he gonna find a way to clear up his ship.
Speaker 1: Totally different from most people because a lot of people
Speaker 1: stay in the closet with their bullshit. He ain't in
Speaker 1: the closet. You like Trump don't change. No, No, I
Speaker 1: don't know him to hate him. But I didn't think
Speaker 1: he was good as a president. I don't think nobody
Speaker 1: was good as the president period. Nothing changed for us.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm changing. It changes for them, but
Speaker 1: it don't change for us. So you didn't think Obama
Speaker 1: did the fishing job. My thing about Obama man, is
Speaker 1: that I supported Obama. He was a black man, first
Speaker 1: black man, and he was in He wasn't out there
Speaker 1: like that, you know, I'm gonna get money and want
Speaker 1: to want to be everywhere and want to be seen.
Speaker 1: He wasn't like that. He was a family man. He
Speaker 1: was way, He was tied down. So that's what I
Speaker 1: liked it about Obama. He didn't take his position to
Speaker 1: a different level than what it was supposed to be.
Speaker 1: But did I think he did anything for us? No.
Speaker 1: Ship didn't change. Ship didn't change certain aspects of the game.
Speaker 1: Trump opened the doors for certain black people to get
Speaker 1: their businesses off the ground, the whole nine. So hooray
Speaker 1: for him. Trump before he walked out of there, he
Speaker 1: pardoned black man. He pardonered some brothers that should have
Speaker 1: been still in jail, or would have been still in jail,
Speaker 1: you know. And you know brothers that should have been home.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So you know, they do
Speaker 1: certain things to help other people, but they don't do
Speaker 1: nothing to help the neighborhood, our community. How do you
Speaker 1: make make it easier for me to live my life
Speaker 1: and take care of my kids. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's hard for a black man really get a goddamn job,
Speaker 1: which what what that should be. They focus to be
Speaker 1: able to take care of their kids, to be able
Speaker 1: to put that black man back in his home with
Speaker 1: his wife and kids. Once they once they stripped us
Speaker 1: from that, They ain't. They ain't thinking about putting us
Speaker 1: back where we belong in society. They're not doing that.
Speaker 1: You go to jail, you do fifteen years, you get out.
Speaker 1: They ain't. They ain't offen your ship free. They ain't
Speaker 1: trying to school you and until you get a trade
Speaker 1: and this and that. Some some do it in prison
Speaker 1: because they ain't got nothing to do. But if those
Speaker 1: that don't, I mean, you know, man, So it's it's
Speaker 1: like that when it comes to a president, I really
Speaker 1: don't don't bother me now, Yeah, And I'm not looking
Speaker 1: for Trump to get in any kind of trouble. I
Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna face it. He kind of legal
Speaker 1: sanctions or nothing like that. Man. I think it's hey,
Speaker 1: if if, if and and and I can say that,
Speaker 1: what if Obama had all that ship, what if Obama
Speaker 1: acted and was our raaded like Trump, he'd have been gone.
Speaker 1: So don't call the kettle black. You treat him just
Speaker 1: like you would treat that black man if he was
Speaker 1: in there. Like like these police officers, murderous murder, no him,
Speaker 1: you kill a man, you shoot a man nine ten
Speaker 1: times in a wheelchair, he is no threat. If you
Speaker 1: kill it, motherfucking you should go to jail for murder,
Speaker 1: not man slaughter, not giving him his pension and telling
Speaker 1: him he can't be a cop nor mode. That's a
Speaker 1: pat on the motherfucking back. But if I go kill
Speaker 1: a police officer, they've been a book me even whoop
Speaker 1: my ass every motherfucking day, and some days they're not
Speaker 1: gonna feed me or shower me. So I get the
Speaker 1: bad into the stick because I'm a civilion, just a
Speaker 1: regular black motherfucking So. No, they don't know. They shouldn't
Speaker 1: get a pass. That's why this world is fucked up today,
Speaker 1: because they get a break on that ship. Man. Murderers, murder,
Speaker 1: You take a life, You take a life. See I
Speaker 1: figured though, James. But shake this out though, man, let
Speaker 1: me go back to my ship. Man. These guys, man,
Speaker 1: these guys had they found a list with thousands of
Speaker 1: people on that bro I believe it without with with
Speaker 1: with with with hunt with with with hundreds, not thousands, hundreds.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm trying to see what this list was at. Man,
Speaker 1: they got motherfucker's a hundred hundred people under open the military. Um, No,
Speaker 1: I didn't believe. Do you believe everything? Would you say?
Speaker 1: It's possible for out of every police station in California
Speaker 1: there's at least two corrupt mom to corrupt cops in
Speaker 1: his division. Yeah, for sure. And That's what I'm trying
Speaker 1: to see. So this is here. The Oathkeepers, they were
Speaker 1: founded in two thousand nine by Stewart Roads, is a
Speaker 1: loosely organized conspiracy theory few group that recruits current and
Speaker 1: former military, police and first responders. It asked its members
Speaker 1: to vow to defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign
Speaker 1: and domestic. For most the belief that the federal government
Speaker 1: is out the strip citizens of their civil liberties, and
Speaker 1: paints his followers defenders against tyranny. You know, the Oathkeepers things,
Speaker 1: James don't seem like. It's really not so much of
Speaker 1: a racist thing as it is an anarchist type of
Speaker 1: thing that people that just don't trust the government. It
Speaker 1: says more than two dozen people associated with the Oathkeepers,
Speaker 1: including Roads, have been charged in connection with the Janguary
Speaker 1: six attack. Roads and four other Keeper members are associates
Speaker 1: are heading to trial its mother on sudacious conspiracy charges
Speaker 1: for what prosecutions have described as a week's long plot
Speaker 1: to keep then president Donald Trump and power. Yeah. These
Speaker 1: dudes going to jail. Man, they're getting locked up. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And and and the bad part about it is, and
Speaker 1: I don't know why they think the way they think.
Speaker 1: They believe that this world belongs to them. This is
Speaker 1: a white world. It's just stay white. Come on, man,
Speaker 1: they know that ain't true. I ain't no educated motherfucker.
Speaker 1: But I know if this was only a white world,
Speaker 1: how the black people get here, how the Asian people
Speaker 1: get here? So you don't own this planet. Nobody does.
Speaker 1: But they truly believe that white should be with whites
Speaker 1: and whites or supremits or supreme over all other races.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I want to get that. Listen you right, James,
Speaker 1: not to cut you w but these people feel like
Speaker 1: this is our country, this is our planet. If stuff
Speaker 1: is not going to the direction in which we like it,
Speaker 1: we are going to raise hill and make some changes.
Speaker 1: Have you know the James that white people are getting
Speaker 1: a lot more bold? Yeah, well that's when Donald Trump came.
Speaker 1: When Donald Trump came, they all came out the classes,
Speaker 1: A little bit of everybody did. And Donald Trump is
Speaker 1: is is their black Obama? Are black Obama? When when
Speaker 1: when Obama one and one again, that was that was man,
Speaker 1: That's all we needed to hear. But when Trump came,
Speaker 1: and Trump was I want to say the right thing.
Speaker 1: Let's say, when Trump came, it opened the door for
Speaker 1: a lot of them to be who they are, for
Speaker 1: a lot of people to open up and express how
Speaker 1: they feel about this country, about uh, black people about
Speaker 1: their position and about the problem that they they so
Speaker 1: called their self have. So that's all that was. Yeah, James,
Speaker 1: it was three thousand people. That's a lot. That's a
Speaker 1: lot of people, James, and m four police chiefs and
Speaker 1: this is just some Texas along four police chiefs to
Speaker 1: county sheriffs, two constables, and two county commissioners, and they
Speaker 1: have a bunch of state senators and everybody else and
Speaker 1: this ship, Man, I want to see this list, man,
Speaker 1: I bet you so. Anybody, I wouldn't be surprised. We
Speaker 1: saw some other funers. We knew all this ship. Whether
Speaker 1: listen ain't gonna matter. It don't matter because we've been
Speaker 1: living this ship the whole time. You see it. When
Speaker 1: motherfucker's go to jail, you know, you go to the
Speaker 1: county jail, you get a little A little white kid
Speaker 1: got a little money. He do six months for attempted
Speaker 1: murder and and I do five six years for it.
Speaker 1: So it's the ship, man Hattan to know him favoritism
Speaker 1: been in this motherfucking country for the longest. It depends
Speaker 1: on who you are, bro. And people need to wake
Speaker 1: to funk up. And that's why when I say they
Speaker 1: need to wake up. Certain things we know we cannot do,
Speaker 1: we shouldn't do boldly as we do it. And it's
Speaker 1: some things that a certain way we need to act,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So this white cat told me,
Speaker 1: he said, why would anybody take black people serious when
Speaker 1: black people kill each other? Why would why would black
Speaker 1: people take each other serious when we can't even trust
Speaker 1: each other? I don't know how to answer that, because
Speaker 1: it's right, that's the real sick seams, you know what.
Speaker 1: You know what, I'm gonna say something. I'm being honest, man,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of like racist encounters I've had
Speaker 1: over my life. I've had a few racist encounters, and
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna see a whole bunch of them. I've
Speaker 1: had a few of them, though, right, But most of
Speaker 1: my stress, stress, strife and turmoil has came feeling with
Speaker 1: my presence people I should probably at least amount of
Speaker 1: problems with man um. And I think that's what it is. Man.
Speaker 1: I think that Willie Lynch's letter man Um. I think
Speaker 1: Willie Lynch Man was a real thing. I believe that
Speaker 1: because we don't we have a very man a very
Speaker 1: large amount of mistrust amongst each other. Well, see, we
Speaker 1: get that ship misconstrue because how many of us I'm
Speaker 1: talking about nickers hanging in the street, black man period,
Speaker 1: know about that letter. We ain't living off of that, man,
Speaker 1: These young niggas out of the street, out of here.
Speaker 1: The way they're killing people and doing ship is way disrespectful.
Speaker 1: But they ain't living off of the winning that thing,
Speaker 1: living off of that, Bro, My fucker's just out here.
Speaker 1: Don't give a fuck. You know what I'm gonna do, James,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave a copy of the Um, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: put a woolly copy of the PDF for the woolly
Speaker 1: links letter. Yeah, and the description for this show man,
Speaker 1: because I think, um, that's a lot of youngsters are
Speaker 1: here to need to read this. That was a real thing.
Speaker 1: Because the thing is, bro, if you don't study history,
Speaker 1: you're doomed to repeat it. Right. So the longer we
Speaker 1: still keep walking around here worried about who told on
Speaker 1: who and who did this and that, who're messing with
Speaker 1: whose baby Mama, we're not really up on the ship
Speaker 1: we need to be on, man, because we're on bullshit. Well,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this and it might not take too
Speaker 1: long for it to happen. But they are showing that
Speaker 1: they are mad with uh, mixed people, people, black men
Speaker 1: with white women. They're getting and so they out here fighting,
Speaker 1: jumping on black men, jumping on white boys that got
Speaker 1: a black woman. This ship is coming the past and
Speaker 1: it's getting worser. They are, they are out and they
Speaker 1: don't care. Which, come on, man, this is a free
Speaker 1: fucking world. Ain't nobody understanding that, just like we don't
Speaker 1: understand ship. They got their issues too, bro, these white boys,
Speaker 1: these white people got their issues too, These Karen's and
Speaker 1: all of this other ship. They didn't. They didn't just
Speaker 1: wait till it was thirty forty years old to start
Speaker 1: acting like this ship. They've been acting like that. But
Speaker 1: see what we gotta do is acknowledge the ship that's
Speaker 1: going on and that's about to happen. Yeah, because James,
Speaker 1: you know whether I'm not gonna read the whole thing,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna read the pair the two paragraphs and
Speaker 1: let's make a slave. This is an instruction guy, on
Speaker 1: how to break a black person. All right? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: read it. It was the interests in business of slaveholders
Speaker 1: to study human nature and the slave nature in particular
Speaker 1: with a few to practical results, I am many of them.
Speaker 1: Let me turn. It's the right way. We started over again,
Speaker 1: because I don't want to keep going on. It was
Speaker 1: the interest in business of slaveholders to study human nature,
Speaker 1: and the slave nature in particular, with a few to
Speaker 1: practical results. I am many of them attained astonishing propity
Speaker 1: in this direction. They had to deal not with earth,
Speaker 1: wood and stone, but with men, and by every regard
Speaker 1: they had for their own safety and prosperity, they needed
Speaker 1: to know the material of which they were to work,
Speaker 1: conscious of the injustice and wrong they were. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: read the last part. I'm addit all the other ship out.
Speaker 1: Let us make a slave. What do we need? First
Speaker 1: of all, we need a black nigger man, a pregnant
Speaker 1: nigger woman, and her baby nigger boy. Second, we would
Speaker 1: use the same basic principle that we use and breaking
Speaker 1: a horse, combined with some more sustaining factors. What we
Speaker 1: do with horses is that we break them from one
Speaker 1: form of life to another. That is, we reduced them
Speaker 1: from their natural state and nature where nature provides them
Speaker 1: with the natural capacity to take care of their offspring.
Speaker 1: We break the natural string of independence from them. And
Speaker 1: thereby to create a dependency state so that we may
Speaker 1: be able to get from them useful production for our
Speaker 1: business and pleasure. Principles of are making a myth grow
Speaker 1: for fear that our future generations may not understand the
Speaker 1: principles of breaking both of the beasts together, the nigger
Speaker 1: and the horse. We understand the short range planning economics
Speaker 1: results and periodic economic chaos, so that devoid turmoil in
Speaker 1: the economy, it requires us to have breath and depth
Speaker 1: and long range comprehensive planning. Articulating both skills sharp perceptions,
Speaker 1: we lay down the following principles long range comprehensive economic planning.
Speaker 1: Both horse and niggerance is no good to the economy
Speaker 1: and the wild or natural state. Both must be broken
Speaker 1: and tied together for orderly production. Man, I can't read
Speaker 1: no more this ship. This ship is crazy, dog. But
Speaker 1: if a motherfucker read that ship, James, it would really
Speaker 1: make you wonder, Man, what the hell is going on
Speaker 1: with us? We followed that like we followed that. Somebody
Speaker 1: followed those instructures to a team, and they still got
Speaker 1: us funked up to this day. Right, But do you
Speaker 1: think they honestly in our head like that to where
Speaker 1: we feel like we need to go and shoot our
Speaker 1: own kind. No, I think, yeah, you know what he's sayings.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. I think what the Willie links,
Speaker 1: what they're talking about this letter. I think we have
Speaker 1: been programmed to a certain extent. Think about it, especially
Speaker 1: when you go, like I was just back at home
Speaker 1: in Ohio. Right, You've got generations of people that's been
Speaker 1: on welfare. I knew houses that people's great grand parents
Speaker 1: stayed in. Now the grand kids and everybody else stay
Speaker 1: in the same house on welfare. Whole new group of people,
Speaker 1: but same family. Right. It's because at some point nobody
Speaker 1: ever came in to break that side. I think with us, bro,
Speaker 1: it's the same thing we've never We're in a cycle
Speaker 1: that has never been broken. We got a cycle of
Speaker 1: there's not being fathers to their children. We got a
Speaker 1: cycle of mothers trying to be friends with their daughters.
Speaker 1: We have a cycle of black hatred, of people hating themselves,
Speaker 1: people not knowing, people are not loving who they are.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, bro, this thing is real. This
Speaker 1: thing is real. I'm just crazy, dog, but I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I just have a whole code, just a
Speaker 1: different opinions. I believe that, and I believe we are
Speaker 1: stuck somewhere and believing that this is how we're supposed
Speaker 1: to act. I believe that. So I'm not gonna go
Speaker 1: and say that it ain't their fault. Today's day, the
Speaker 1: majority of the ship that we're doing is our fault
Speaker 1: because half of us don't even know nothing about that.
Speaker 1: Half of these cats don't even know nothing about the
Speaker 1: Martin Luther King. We out here doing what we want
Speaker 1: to do. You know, when I was gang banging, I
Speaker 1: truly believe that I was protecting the hood. I was
Speaker 1: a part of that neighborhood. And can't nobody come in
Speaker 1: here and be with the wom Now when you get
Speaker 1: in a car and you go to a different hood,
Speaker 1: you're going to that hood to disrupt that hood. Right,
Speaker 1: This ain't protecting the neighborhood, cause ain't nobody come in
Speaker 1: the hood to do nothing. But I get in that
Speaker 1: car with intent to go disrupt another neighborhood. So what
Speaker 1: did that tell you? That ain't got nothing to do
Speaker 1: with protecting the hood. But we believe that ship still,
Speaker 1: even though we're in the car about to do what
Speaker 1: we're gonna do we believe this ship. Oh, listen to
Speaker 1: this man, it gets I'm gonna read two more. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be gonna read two more paragraphs. Right, It's says
Speaker 1: here the nigger marriage. We breathe two nigger males with
Speaker 1: two nigger females, and then we take the nigger males
Speaker 1: away from them and keep them moving and working. Say
Speaker 1: one nigger female bears a nigger female and the other
Speaker 1: bears of nigger male. Both nigger females with being without
Speaker 1: influence of the nigger male image, frozen with an independent psychology,
Speaker 1: were raised their off spring into reverse positions. The one
Speaker 1: with the female offspring would teach her to beat like herself,
Speaker 1: independent and negotiable. We negotiate with her through her, by her,
Speaker 1: We negotiate her at will. The one with the nigger
Speaker 1: male off spring, she being frozen with a subconscious fear
Speaker 1: for his life, will raise him to be mentally dependent
Speaker 1: and weak, but physically strong. In other words, body over mind. Now,
Speaker 1: in a few years, when these two all springs would
Speaker 1: coome fertile for early for reproduction, we would make them,
Speaker 1: breathe them and continue to cycle. This is good sound
Speaker 1: and long range comprehensive planning. See they say it right there,
Speaker 1: that we are taking away any semblance of the male
Speaker 1: being dominant in that relationship. What do you see in
Speaker 1: most black households. Let me go talk to my mama.
Speaker 1: You barely really hear a blue boy say, let me
Speaker 1: go talk to my daddy. It's fair when you hear that,
Speaker 1: let me go, let me ask my mama. It's still
Speaker 1: like that to this day, James, because we've been the
Speaker 1: black male in this country has been made a fool
Speaker 1: of for when you look at television, it's always the
Speaker 1: premise when you see a black father on television. All
Speaker 1: besides Bill cost Me and James Evants, there was only
Speaker 1: two strong black fathers I heard I saw on television. Now,
Speaker 1: they may have had a couple of them I missing,
Speaker 1: But I don't watch everything on TV, right, But for
Speaker 1: the most part, every father is a buffoon on TV.
Speaker 1: What's the one? What's my Man's name? The comedian Mike Epps,
Speaker 1: he has a show to where he's, you know, a
Speaker 1: father on there, but he's always getting caught cheating, always
Speaker 1: in some kind of scheme. It's always a joke with him.
Speaker 1: He's a clown with the move. He's a clown on
Speaker 1: the show. He's not a responsible person, right, Um, he
Speaker 1: has automotive shop, got conference selling stoven parts. You know. Um,
Speaker 1: he's being made to look like a fool of clown.
Speaker 1: We don't see a whole bunch of positive images of
Speaker 1: us on TV and not what the internet has gotten
Speaker 1: even worse because you've got brothers our Age. It's out
Speaker 1: there acting retarded and out they're acting the food. So
Speaker 1: this will Ellen is very real and they did a
Speaker 1: very good job of programming us, Dog, because we have
Speaker 1: done nothing to change it and were so ignorant. Bro,
Speaker 1: we don't even know about this letter's existence. You're talking
Speaker 1: to people about this day but like, oh, that's some
Speaker 1: ship that got made up. That's not real, right, that's
Speaker 1: not real. It's saying that some real ship though this
Speaker 1: letter is old. Dog, that is crazy. It's crazy. It's
Speaker 1: he oh man, And like the thing is Man, it
Speaker 1: hasn't changed, James, because we are still doing the same
Speaker 1: stuff hundreds a few years later. Dog, we're not doing
Speaker 1: any better. We're not you know what. You may look
Speaker 1: on the service and say, yeah, we've had a black
Speaker 1: president now we gotta Um, I don't know, I don't
Speaker 1: know if this woman is black or whatever he is,
Speaker 1: because not too long ago she was saying she wasn't black,
Speaker 1: So I don't know which she is. But all that's kept, dog, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what they want. Let let's have a black president, y'all
Speaker 1: have one. Chock it up. I get all of that,
Speaker 1: But that letter is something else. Man. Just think of
Speaker 1: the minds of the motherfucker's that said at the table
Speaker 1: and figured that out. Yeah, And I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: if niggas was anything five or six hundred years ago,
Speaker 1: like they all the baby, I don't think it would
Speaker 1: have been hard. Dog. No. Yeah, and as sad as
Speaker 1: it was the same, man, Because I'm gonna tell you, Dog,
Speaker 1: you're looking at even our situation. Dog, we have we
Speaker 1: had that, Man, I think we could have been the
Speaker 1: coldest motherfucker's ever on the internet. Dog. But it all
Speaker 1: comes down to it. But you know what, I can't
Speaker 1: say that because Alex ain't black. I forgot. Alex only
Speaker 1: black when he when he's when it suits him. I'm
Speaker 1: not going into all that because this show ain't about him.
Speaker 1: But but he don't think so, I don't know. It's
Speaker 1: probably probably really only just me, you and Rexy. Dog.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, right, You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's no knock. I love my Hispanic people. I got
Speaker 1: my kids a half Mexicans. Don't coming be with that
Speaker 1: bullshit because I love everybody. But on the same token, no, Dog,
Speaker 1: we really let them motherfucker come and infiltrate our ship. Dog.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna say it was successful. Dog, But Rex,
Speaker 1: you should have still been with us. Dog, But Reggie
Speaker 1: believe the whole bunch of the bullshit well, and and
Speaker 1: that still could have been possible. But you know, we
Speaker 1: don't know that because Reggie got sick, and and Reggie
Speaker 1: wasn't and I don't think still ready to two put
Speaker 1: itself out there. So I mean, we don't know. But
Speaker 1: you know, as that as as when we first started
Speaker 1: Gangster Chronicles, you know, I can't lie Gangster Chronicles was
Speaker 1: it was good and the team was good. Now if if, if, when,
Speaker 1: it has still been the same, If Reggie never would
Speaker 1: have went to jail, I think we we we'd have
Speaker 1: got stronger and pushed a little harder if Reggie wouldn't
Speaker 1: went to jail. But with the inside bs and I've
Speaker 1: always said that let our money come. It don't have
Speaker 1: to be big and let us just let our money come. Um,
Speaker 1: we shouldn't have arguments about money or who doing what
Speaker 1: or who in the comments people are gravitating to more
Speaker 1: than the other. You know, those things came to play
Speaker 1: in gangster chronicles, and I don't think you know, I
Speaker 1: wasn't looking for to be that celebrity. Dude, I'd have
Speaker 1: been around that ship. That ship is not no which
Speaker 1: called I don't go hang out in nightclubs in certain
Speaker 1: places to be seen or hope somebody recognized me. Don't
Speaker 1: do that. So you know, when Reggie went to jail,
Speaker 1: I think that changed the dynamics of where we was at.
Speaker 1: And then oh boy felt the need not to or
Speaker 1: thought he can do as he choose, which that wasn't
Speaker 1: the case. You know what I'm saying. You know, conversations
Speaker 1: with that brother, I told you, man, I need you.
Speaker 1: I'm mean, I'm really like, what the funk I'm gonna do?
Speaker 1: Remember when you said you were going to move to Atlanta.
Speaker 1: I ain't doing this ship without if you ain't there.
Speaker 1: So I was like that I didn't want to touch
Speaker 1: this Alex. I mean, Reggie is gonna we don't drove
Speaker 1: him to the penitentiary, and then here it is just us.
Speaker 1: So ain't no regulationship because I ain't regulating ship. There's
Speaker 1: only one motherfucker that's that's putting the show together and
Speaker 1: then going down. Now, what he was good at is
Speaker 1: bringing the material hick for us to talk about and say, Okay,
Speaker 1: pick and choose what we're gonna speak on, and we
Speaker 1: can do fifteen minutes on this, twenty minutes on that.
Speaker 1: It added up to hours. So it was great. Dog.
Speaker 1: That's why I knew when I picked the people, because
Speaker 1: see it was some other couple. It was a couple
Speaker 1: of other people I thought of outside of Alex. Yeah,
Speaker 1: bially when I put the show together, and I felt
Speaker 1: he would be the best one because he was more
Speaker 1: like an organizer of model ragar. You feel what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: organize a modern rigor It didn't. I didn't want to
Speaker 1: show to consistent. Show was never supposed to consist of
Speaker 1: three people. It was very deliberate and focused the way
Speaker 1: it was put together. It was supposed to be a
Speaker 1: guy from the streets, a guy that was formerly from
Speaker 1: law enforcement that some some part of the law right
Speaker 1: and yeah it works, and and it worked, and it
Speaker 1: worked like a mother for the dog, and I just
Speaker 1: thinking the show. You know, actually the show was doing
Speaker 1: way bigger numbers, not in the dial back then, but
Speaker 1: that's because of growth. Who's to say that show wouldn't
Speaker 1: have been at a bill in the trick, you feel
Speaker 1: what I mean? Who was to say that wouldn't have
Speaker 1: been You just have never know dog. But that comes
Speaker 1: to a part of of really letting people dog because
Speaker 1: you know the whole stuff. But he came in before
Speaker 1: he was trying to kick you guys to go do
Speaker 1: some other stuff, right, and he wasn't even their mom.
Speaker 1: So it's like, really, from that point, I should have
Speaker 1: told him to kick rocks. So now so well when
Speaker 1: we first started, and and then even even with me
Speaker 1: believing in thinking that okay, once you start doing these shows,
Speaker 1: who knew that you have to do so much to
Speaker 1: get to a certain level, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So you know, but still right now today, I don't
Speaker 1: concern myself with that, you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: don't concern myself. So you know, by him making it
Speaker 1: or us think that the numbers is saying we should
Speaker 1: be doing this and doing that. That's that's where you
Speaker 1: know the confusion came. And then when he didn't want
Speaker 1: to like listen and we tried to have that conversation
Speaker 1: with him on the phone. But you know, you want
Speaker 1: people to apologize to you, but you don't think you
Speaker 1: will apology. That's when it became when the funk this
Speaker 1: dude think he is Yeah, well you know what it was, James,
Speaker 1: the thing he was, Man, everybody that was ever on
Speaker 1: this show always got paid a little bit more than
Speaker 1: what they were supposed It was always like that because
Speaker 1: from the moment I was trying to keep it so
Speaker 1: one hunter dog that I said, you know what, forget
Speaker 1: this deal we got. We just gonna run everything, you
Speaker 1: know equal, you know, instead of saying, okay, y'all get
Speaker 1: set any percent and I take my thirty percent and
Speaker 1: going about my business. Yeah you know what it's for,
Speaker 1: but be doing this work. Let's just do it like that,
Speaker 1: because actually I took money for myself and say, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm cool with that. I don't have no issue with it. Man,
Speaker 1: And I think that the earliest one. Man, That's what
Speaker 1: I mean about that negativity. Whenever you bring somebody in that,
Speaker 1: especially when they come under the guys like they know
Speaker 1: more than everybody else. Oh man, we should be doing
Speaker 1: this and that. And he can't really say that because
Speaker 1: he don't really know what the numbers he is to
Speaker 1: the show outside are the YouTube ship. He is never
Speaker 1: once polled analytics. And that's what I'm saying. I didn't
Speaker 1: know none of that ship. I didn't want to concern myself.
Speaker 1: But then you know, there's no need to the world.
Speaker 1: You got you got four men men not they ain't
Speaker 1: gotta be black. They can be black, white, whatever, but
Speaker 1: you've got four brothers. I thought he was black. Um
Speaker 1: working together my whole thing. As long as everybody get paid.
Speaker 1: We ain't gonna say this that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't want to hear that. James is uh bigger than
Speaker 1: than what James making a show funk all that we're
Speaker 1: supposed to be doing this ship together. But what I
Speaker 1: do understand is black men can't work together. Black people
Speaker 1: can't work together because you see all these rappers, these singers,
Speaker 1: every group had the same issues that we have. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what the James, I'll correct you on that, bro,
Speaker 1: Blacks can't work together. Niggas can't work together right right, Well,
Speaker 1: you know, I just didn't want to use that word,
Speaker 1: but you know, but I mean, you know, what's up money?
Speaker 1: How you doing? Man? Fine, you're you're going to school now? No,
Speaker 1: but I say no to my I want to go
Speaker 1: to school. You don't want to go to school? Or
Speaker 1: do you go to school? Single time? Miss Kelsey, Miss
Speaker 1: Kelsey bold caps head long Kelsey, alright, shut up to
Speaker 1: Miss Kelsey. Yea yeah. But bro, the thing is, man,
Speaker 1: and I'm not doing this. This is for me. It's
Speaker 1: closure right here, because once we speak on this today,
Speaker 1: I'll never bring it up again though, because the dude's
Speaker 1: been going for three years, no dog. And that's why
Speaker 1: I'd be the funny part about this when I see
Speaker 1: some person say something like, oh man, they do this
Speaker 1: and that this ain't this, this ain't that, and it's like, dude,
Speaker 1: so you've been listening for the past three years since
Speaker 1: the dude's been gone, but you still keep listening to
Speaker 1: some stuff that you don't make you think I messed up,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I'm sure everything on
Speaker 1: the other end of us, on the other end of
Speaker 1: our conversation, they listen, but then they don't understand. They don't,
Speaker 1: they don't, they don't grasp. Then they don't understand this ship.
Speaker 1: And and I can honestly say, and I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: his name, Alex chose not to be a part against
Speaker 1: Chronicles on his own. Alex wasn't told nigga, you're done,
Speaker 1: you out of here if we don't want you back.
Speaker 1: It wasn't nothing like that at all. None of those
Speaker 1: words was other to that. Dude, you felt that I
Speaker 1: can't work with certain individuals and Gangster Chronicles because of this?
Speaker 1: Why concern yourself of that? You got your own shoulder,
Speaker 1: do you? Why are you concerned about and and only
Speaker 1: being here for a short period of time. Do we
Speaker 1: supposed to be getting a million dollars a hundred thousand
Speaker 1: dollars a week or something? I mean, let me know
Speaker 1: what you you know what the thing was to this
Speaker 1: crazy names the winds in the CDs building at that time,
Speaker 1: we didn't have a six weeks with nobody. I was
Speaker 1: paying every time that came through there. So when that
Speaker 1: wasn't my concern. See that's the thing, James, I've never
Speaker 1: made it. Nobody's concerned because this is something I can
Speaker 1: ask you guys to come and do. So I wasn't
Speaker 1: gonna be up there saying, Okay, I got a network,
Speaker 1: but I'm asking you all the paper stuff. That was
Speaker 1: just a part of the calls. I think that was
Speaker 1: a part of the game. So whether we want to
Speaker 1: lose a droll, I knew at the end of each
Speaker 1: night I had to shoot them do some break. You
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying this. The struggle was hard, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, coming from Compton to go down there. You know,
Speaker 1: the gas and ship, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: we really didn't see a dollar for a while. I
Speaker 1: mean what we do uh phody shows and thirty something
Speaker 1: shows before before we get kid. I believe anything you
Speaker 1: you you start off doing, it's gonna be it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a struggle. We're gonna get We're gonna have to
Speaker 1: get to that point. So I understood that. So I
Speaker 1: didn't trip off that in the turn fruitful because you know,
Speaker 1: my thing is this man, we all the team, right,
Speaker 1: and that was my part of being a team being
Speaker 1: then executive producer, making sure that you know, nobody ever
Speaker 1: once came up and the studio was shut down. No,
Speaker 1: it was always opening the filip it was always open
Speaker 1: to Velp. I did everything I was supposed to do
Speaker 1: so and that was my thing with that. And I
Speaker 1: think with what Dude's main issue was is some people
Speaker 1: want to be in control the situations. You get invited
Speaker 1: somewhere and you know, I'm putting the bill for this here,
Speaker 1: but you want to come over and dictating now how
Speaker 1: stuff is gonna be. And it's kind of like, what, dude,
Speaker 1: if you was doing this ship like that, like if
Speaker 1: you was the nigga you claim you are gonna your show,
Speaker 1: ain't like that then, because this shows the pass the
Speaker 1: ship he had. It's the truth and that I could
Speaker 1: pull up numbers and everything else, it can't fun with it.
Speaker 1: Even now, our last episode Dog on the Audio was
Speaker 1: at a hundred twenty thousand already on all the not
Speaker 1: know YouTube Shipping on the Audio, we still some bad motherfucker's.
Speaker 1: When the top ten fifteen podcasts in the world, you
Speaker 1: can bet that I show numbers for that I ain't
Speaker 1: talking about No YouTube should either, real numbers, you know.
Speaker 1: So it's like that's why when people say all that,
Speaker 1: like you have no idea what the funk you're talking about?
Speaker 1: You don't know it well. I put the ship past
Speaker 1: me man, and like I said, I know who he is,
Speaker 1: he know who we are, and I don't see I
Speaker 1: don't see nothing in the future. I mean, I wish
Speaker 1: you well. I want to wish well too. The printed dogs,
Speaker 1: you know what, man, well, we had together. It was
Speaker 1: cool when it was there, but it ain't no more right,
Speaker 1: and we moved past it. So I think everybody ol
Speaker 1: ship and this is kind of like the I think
Speaker 1: before we go into this new phase. That's why I
Speaker 1: wanted to put this episode out like this right here.
Speaker 1: I want to do something for me and you was
Speaker 1: just me and you, not eight because eight didn't have
Speaker 1: nothing to do with all that other ship right right.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I kind of want haveving
Speaker 1: thing with you because we had never really sat down
Speaker 1: and talked about the showing itself. You know, well, me personally,
Speaker 1: I didn't really believe that. You know, it was really
Speaker 1: nothing to talk about, you know I did. I was
Speaker 1: the one that kept acting Alex Man, I need you,
Speaker 1: I need you, I need you. I kept acting uh
Speaker 1: he's He called it begging, But I ain't never begged
Speaker 1: man nigga for ship you feel me. So he called
Speaker 1: it begging. But you know, at that point, I really
Speaker 1: did need his expertise to two keep my growth coming
Speaker 1: along like it like I wanted to. And I still
Speaker 1: had even though we was in the studio and talking
Speaker 1: and it wasn't no audience and ship like that, I
Speaker 1: still had butterflies and ship like so I didn't know
Speaker 1: what what to expect. All I've seen is I'm gonna
Speaker 1: fail at this. I'm anna fail at this, and I
Speaker 1: didn't want to. I didn't want to fail. So when
Speaker 1: we had that one episode, this hafter Reggie going and
Speaker 1: he didn't come, Okay, put on your big boy draws
Speaker 1: and going to do it by yourself. That's when I'm
Speaker 1: and everything was good. Yeah, So that's that gave me
Speaker 1: a fool. Okay, it ain't as bad, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Just float with the people you're talking to
Speaker 1: and and you know, create your own dialogue as you go.
Speaker 1: You don't need to. I didn't have to write nothing.
Speaker 1: I didn't use the ship that I wanted to ask.
Speaker 1: So I did it that way. And after that, before
Speaker 1: the the O Heart situation came up, No, when I
Speaker 1: found out, So when when you know I did that show.
Speaker 1: I said, Okay, now we figure out that we got
Speaker 1: this little thing going with our heart. So I called
Speaker 1: an accident to come back. I didn't want to tell
Speaker 1: him we got a deal going on and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: need you think that we got gonna check this out,
Speaker 1: a deal that we got that he and involve getting
Speaker 1: the first place that. Yeah, he was already gone, but
Speaker 1: I wanted him to come back. I really wanted him
Speaker 1: to come back. I would have been comfortable and knew
Speaker 1: that I didn't have to get on no goddamn computer.
Speaker 1: I didn't have a computer to look up ship like
Speaker 1: whatever he did and brunt that that that he made
Speaker 1: me comfortable, that's what he did. Do all bullshit aside.
Speaker 1: So I wanted that comfortability moving and moving on to that.
Speaker 1: So I'm actually, bro, I need you to come back.
Speaker 1: His whole thing was nah, nah, you know I could
Speaker 1: come back with you, but no, I can't do Norman.
Speaker 1: You know, no, I can't do Norman. I can't do Norman.
Speaker 1: So now they find out that we have the deal
Speaker 1: thing going all right, so there's no need to call.
Speaker 1: There's no need for us to conversate and talk. Now
Speaker 1: I gotta figure out how I'm a move on and
Speaker 1: with this new growth thing and and just keep it otion.
Speaker 1: But that was too late. See, that was my thing.
Speaker 1: Though we didn't need the motherfucker's We had already did
Speaker 1: what we had to do to get the deal without him.
Speaker 1: He was gone, but he was gone for so many
Speaker 1: episodes already. But I'm understanding that now. I'm understanding that now.
Speaker 1: At that time, it was my stomach, in my head,
Speaker 1: my mind, everything was going. Man, I was I was like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck? What the funk? Am I gonna do?
Speaker 1: What we gonna do? And I didn't want to fail.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to I didn't want it to become
Speaker 1: you know, damn, what if our heart don't like us
Speaker 1: and or or understand the ship that I'll be talking
Speaker 1: about the way I speak on things, They're not gonna
Speaker 1: like us. And you gotta remember, James. So from the
Speaker 1: from the time that dude left to where we got
Speaker 1: the Heart deal, we had already did like fifty two
Speaker 1: episodes of our own were finished with that last. We
Speaker 1: had finished that. That sick that that that commitment we
Speaker 1: had fifty two episodes to do, we have finished that.
Speaker 1: He wasn't not on one of me was gone already,
Speaker 1: he had shows. Yeah, I was good and I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna live. I was glad the motherfucker was gonna you know,
Speaker 1: I was happy to say. I said I had come
Speaker 1: to do the show full time. I thought it was
Speaker 1: over and that's where you came in. Uh when when
Speaker 1: when you came in? I had I had told Brian first, Brian,
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to put on your big boy drawers
Speaker 1: and com from behind all this dis equipment and get
Speaker 1: on the show. Brian was like, I don't know, know him.
Speaker 1: You gotta do the show. Bro. They think that you
Speaker 1: just said, fucking I'm gonna take the show and know
Speaker 1: him just wanted to be a superstar. You no, No,
Speaker 1: I got something make a change. You know what. People
Speaker 1: donna understand. I hardly have time for my family. Every
Speaker 1: day I'm doing some ship. People don't understand. I got
Speaker 1: eight other shows. Thought, so this is like, you know
Speaker 1: the stuff, and I'm not a host on eight other shows,
Speaker 1: but it's other shows that I produced or whatever like that,
Speaker 1: and I'm behind the scenes on So I was like, ship,
Speaker 1: I was never meant to sit in the seat. I'm
Speaker 1: glad I did it because I ensoul way it right.
Speaker 1: But when people say, oh he did because he wanted
Speaker 1: to be famous, that was a kid just keept my
Speaker 1: mess on there. From the beginning. You came a long
Speaker 1: way too. You came along motherfucker's way because I remember
Speaker 1: one time you were sitting there eating candy, and then
Speaker 1: I remember another time I said, can't be eating candy
Speaker 1: or some ship, and then you'll be like this funding
Speaker 1: this motherfucker, and you'll be looking like you're going to sleep.
Speaker 1: Nor So we all came a long way, I mean,
Speaker 1: doing different ships that we shouldn't do on while we
Speaker 1: while were recording and ship, it took a while for
Speaker 1: me to get adjusted to the video portion because I'm
Speaker 1: so used to a podcast being shamed. We're this audio.
Speaker 1: I actually liked it that way because sometimes I don't
Speaker 1: feel like getting tressed up, but you feel what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: especially if we're somewhere in the studio. Sometimes I might
Speaker 1: come to take top of some shorts freak from the
Speaker 1: gym and be like, okay, well, you know we're doing
Speaker 1: our ship right, but the video forces you to start
Speaker 1: doing different ships, you know what I mean. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't get fucking I'm sitting at home. I'm at home,
Speaker 1: so uh I putting on the put on the button
Speaker 1: down shirt right now. It's it's not about my appearance,
Speaker 1: It's about my conversation. So all I say, bro, is
Speaker 1: I appreciate the fact that that I was asked to
Speaker 1: do a podcast. You know, one thing I realized and
Speaker 1: understand now is that when you get on there, people
Speaker 1: try to, you know, speak bad because they want their
Speaker 1: ship to be a certain kind of way. All this
Speaker 1: whatever they call troll and all this other bullish it.
Speaker 1: I ain't. I ain't up on that ship, and I
Speaker 1: really don't care about none of that. You feel me? So,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't You know now today, do I
Speaker 1: want to lash out as a certain individuals and feel
Speaker 1: a certain kind of way. Yeah, I do, But I
Speaker 1: don't get anything, and it ain't gonna get not not
Speaker 1: of it. Man. You know what. I don't do nothing
Speaker 1: but wish that dude the best of luck, and I'm
Speaker 1: I'm glad. I hope he'd be very successful. Dogs we
Speaker 1: could leave me to fun, me and mine alone. Said,
Speaker 1: you know that half make millions, My nigga, go do
Speaker 1: what you do. You know what I'm I'm at be
Speaker 1: for you. You know what I'm saying, I'm at it
Speaker 1: for you. Now, one thing about this, I ain't never
Speaker 1: really had nothing against Regge like that about who. I
Speaker 1: ain't never really had nothing against Regge. I think Redge
Speaker 1: was kind of like a victim of misinformation on some
Speaker 1: ship because he was indepenitentiary and he was talking to
Speaker 1: certain individuals, but the ones that he should have been
Speaker 1: talking to. Yeah, like that can happen. It did happen,
Speaker 1: you know, and it happened. Dog, And I ain't got
Speaker 1: no like Reggie. I'm glad to see he's still in
Speaker 1: the land of the living dog. You know, we we
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like the thing is, man,
Speaker 1: some ship just ain't as deep as motherfucker's thinking. This
Speaker 1: is a podcast, dude, Well you got you know, lot
Speaker 1: of people got a misconception about me and Reggie, and
Speaker 1: you know I have to explain that. You know, Reggie
Speaker 1: is not just Reggie right to me? He JUNI I
Speaker 1: know him as junior. I knew him as a child.
Speaker 1: I know his grandmama, I know his granddaddy. I used
Speaker 1: to go look for his granddaddy when his granddaddy, Uh
Speaker 1: would wander away from home. Um, I know his aunties,
Speaker 1: I know his cousins. You know, I lived right down
Speaker 1: the street, A house away from a house away from
Speaker 1: me was reggie mama house. I used to go cut
Speaker 1: the hedges. We used to do all kinds of ship
Speaker 1: as little kids over there. So you know, my relationship
Speaker 1: with Reggie is just not know nigger, I just met.
Speaker 1: I knew Reggie before he was a police officer. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I know what Reggie would have
Speaker 1: been if he didn't have a father that that gave
Speaker 1: a fun You feel me. I know what he would
Speaker 1: have been. I know what ship night would have been
Speaker 1: if he didn't that father figure at home get snatched
Speaker 1: that Nickeby's collar. You feel me. So you know my
Speaker 1: relationship with Reggie. I know what type of Reggie, what
Speaker 1: type of motherfucker Reggie can be. I understand him, though,
Speaker 1: Um it really don't matter because I'm not gonna look
Speaker 1: like a fool or make him look like a fool.
Speaker 1: And I gotta talk to his pops like what's going on,
Speaker 1: what's this and that and and and vice versa. I
Speaker 1: know he ain't gonna do that with my family, but
Speaker 1: you know, people say Reggie threw you under the bus,
Speaker 1: Reggie did this, Reggie did that, while you still fuck
Speaker 1: with Reggie. My relationship goes deeper than this, this podcast
Speaker 1: ship and all of that. So I was my concern
Speaker 1: for Reggie losing his life when he called COVID, I
Speaker 1: was that sucked me up. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: When I'm mad at him. It sucked me up. And
Speaker 1: when Reggie called and and I had to have that
Speaker 1: conversation on the podcast when he was in prison. I
Speaker 1: had to let Reggie, no, come on my nigga, this
Speaker 1: You know me better than anybody that's listening and doing
Speaker 1: whatever here and and this way you go. So that's
Speaker 1: when I got the under Okay, you call chancing you
Speaker 1: you're gonna speak on me just to do this. So
Speaker 1: I had to get on there and say what I
Speaker 1: had to say, but in the clean kind of way. Um,
Speaker 1: everybody know James Mob, James don't have a filter. I
Speaker 1: could have said I don't give a funk at any
Speaker 1: time and it would have been what it is. But
Speaker 1: then his his family would have been looking like, WHOA,
Speaker 1: what the hell is going on here? You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, so I'm not gonna disrespect his family by
Speaker 1: by being disrespect with the Reds. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I knew what Red capable of, But the love I
Speaker 1: had for that dude didn't just start yesterday. You feel me.
Speaker 1: I've been doing this dude for for goddamn I always Reggie.
Speaker 1: They lived in the hood when they moved. They was
Speaker 1: in the hood before me. We moved there to seventy three.
Speaker 1: So when I met Reggie, you know, he was on
Speaker 1: Pine going to he was born to Foster, so he
Speaker 1: wasn't even in the fifth grade, fourth grade. I don't
Speaker 1: know how you would you be, but I think he
Speaker 1: was eight nine, ten years or eight nine years old.
Speaker 1: But he's a little nigked, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And I was running the streets. I'm in the hood.
Speaker 1: We're hanging out. So you know when Reggie Brown, when
Speaker 1: they came to his mama house, his grandma house, you
Speaker 1: know him, the cousins, Tony uh, all of them. Two
Speaker 1: of his cousins is from the hood, from the neighborhood.
Speaker 1: Veggie would have been from the hood, to be told,
Speaker 1: but he had Reggie right senior that was with it.
Speaker 1: When that was standing on his ass. Yeah, so that
Speaker 1: was the only difference. But man, I got love for
Speaker 1: and regardless of whatever, you know, I just I just
Speaker 1: got that that love from him, and it don't stand
Speaker 1: from yesterday, you know, man. But man, you know what, Man,
Speaker 1: we gonna leave the past and the past and for
Speaker 1: the information. Let me ask you a chance and not
Speaker 1: go like this, Well, look I'm sleep. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: never be sleeping. Look at this. When I go like this,
Speaker 1: I don't know why heels, man, when I laid back
Speaker 1: like this, So if y'all see me like this, I'll
Speaker 1: never sleep on Why the fun a whoof? Okay? You
Speaker 1: had woke? Yeah, Like now I'm back there sleeping, you know,
Speaker 1: like I'm back there. No, No, that's to make me
Speaker 1: lad because I've seen people in the comments like it's
Speaker 1: still sleep and I'm like what they're talking about. And
Speaker 1: then I noticed when I laid back like this, that's
Speaker 1: why I'm laid back like that, and where I'm always
Speaker 1: like right. And then even when you look down at
Speaker 1: your phone like sometimes you know, because I'll be taking notes,
Speaker 1: you know, for the show, like certain times and stuff,
Speaker 1: so I look down and text some stuff. I'm looking
Speaker 1: down they could get the appearance, but when you never select,
Speaker 1: we on our job, man. But that's it, man. We
Speaker 1: just want to come and hit you all to day
Speaker 1: with some general conversation man, and just kind of give
Speaker 1: you all the state of the union on what's going
Speaker 1: on around here and how stuff is about to change
Speaker 1: for the Everything is gonna be tight, man. We gotta Um.
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's gonna be produced a lot different both
Speaker 1: audio ys and audio ys and visually on the video side. Um,
Speaker 1: I can't wait. Man. It's a lot of exciting stuff. Man.
Speaker 1: Me and you go have some decisions to make. But
Speaker 1: I think you know, like we see what God got
Speaker 1: playing for us, man, and you know my heart, I
Speaker 1: want to say this, man. We all live a certain
Speaker 1: kind of life, right m We try to better ourselves,
Speaker 1: and I think people should do more applauding for for
Speaker 1: us that want to better themselves and live life. Now
Speaker 1: that I respect life, I'm losing life. I just buried
Speaker 1: another hunt Uh Friday. I got a phone call today
Speaker 1: my mother best friend which I called her Auntie. She's
Speaker 1: been my mama best friend before we was even born.
Speaker 1: Our families are linked like this, and they just they
Speaker 1: just pulled her plug. Today. I just lost one of
Speaker 1: my club brothers. Spiked rest in peace, bro. Uh. Last
Speaker 1: night a very good friend of mine on the bike
Speaker 1: said named Kenny Red. Uh. Yeah, rest in peace to
Speaker 1: you too. O. G um Ryding's bike home from Oakland
Speaker 1: from the Oakland Run and uh got down to twenty
Speaker 1: miles an hour and just fell off his bike and
Speaker 1: he passed away. But what I want to say is,
Speaker 1: you know, with all this BS and all this bullshit,
Speaker 1: people were going at each other and this and that,
Speaker 1: everybody gotta just pay attention to We're losing light, We're
Speaker 1: losing our family, we're losing our friends, and we should
Speaker 1: be doing bigger and better things than than bringing each
Speaker 1: other down and fighting each other over BS. Because this
Speaker 1: ship right here really hurts, and it hits home. When
Speaker 1: it hits home, then people understand it. So what I
Speaker 1: say is, man, bless the people around you, and let
Speaker 1: the people you funk with, let them know you love them.
Speaker 1: Because tomorrow and I promised you feel me for these
Speaker 1: people I spoke on, I wasn't able to say my goodbyes.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, My auntie when I walked
Speaker 1: into the hospital, when I walked in there, she she
Speaker 1: she passed right right then and there. Um man, I
Speaker 1: took too long to go in there. I took too long,
Speaker 1: and I didn't want to see another one of my
Speaker 1: mother's sisters died, just buried my other untie seven months ago.
Speaker 1: And when I got the courage to go in there,
Speaker 1: she was just just sitting there and then bam and
Speaker 1: the lady came in. I'm like, she gone. She's like
Speaker 1: yet she just went And it was like funk if
Speaker 1: I was just had. And that's how life treats us. Man.
Speaker 1: It's like I always tell my kids, you don't have
Speaker 1: as much time as you think. And on that note, man,
Speaker 1: we're gonna shut it down. Man. We appreciate all y'all
Speaker 1: out there. Man, if you're listening to the show and
Speaker 1: shaking me in on it, Man, y'all make sure we
Speaker 1: can start putting stuff on YouTube beginning. Man, I got
Speaker 1: a different way that we're doing the show now, like
Speaker 1: I said, so you guys go like it. Man, do
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