WEBVTT - Episode 5 - The Dream Season

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<v Speaker 1>Dubb Dynasty is a production of iHeartMedia and the NBA.

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<v Speaker 2>They do have a time out, decide not to use

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<v Speaker 2>a Curry wait on top with six steps of second

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<v Speaker 2>the morning, we'll polly join a touchdowns, beat the.

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<v Speaker 3>Clock from midport, Curry Hey back home, no file speaking

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<v Speaker 3>for Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to Curry.

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<v Speaker 4>Curry sets fire, puts up back, Steph Curry home way.

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<v Speaker 5>Down from mid courtway.

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<v Speaker 1>Those were some of the moments that transformed Steph Curry

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<v Speaker 1>from most valuable to mostly magical. I'm Israel Utierres and

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<v Speaker 1>this is dubbed Dynasty. Curry shots often start from so

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<v Speaker 1>far out the ball could use a roadmap to find

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<v Speaker 1>the basket. The shots begin from such a distance you

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<v Speaker 1>could hold a short conversation about it between release and swish.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just one ingredient of Curry magic. It just so

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<v Speaker 1>happens to be his most mesmerizing trick.

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<v Speaker 6>Curl will just dribble it out and the friends, who

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<v Speaker 6>are also obviously aware of Paul George there one.

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<v Speaker 1>Tool ware whoa job by half Paul point five seconds

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<v Speaker 1>for Curry at three D three, The basketball like a

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<v Speaker 1>laser cutting through the atmosphere, regardless of the elements finds

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<v Speaker 1>its way to the rip, whether it's coming from seventy

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<v Speaker 1>feet away in a game that counts, or from well

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<v Speaker 1>off the court when they don't count. As part of

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<v Speaker 1>his pregame shooting routine at home, Curry seems to have

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<v Speaker 1>full control of the basketball even after it leaves his hands.

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<v Speaker 1>Only it's not an illusion. Shot clock winding down.

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<v Speaker 6>Rry's gonna have to put it up.

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<v Speaker 4>Launches it up.

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<v Speaker 3>Shot clock Wow, Steph Curry with the shock clock expiring.

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<v Speaker 1>Step Warriors assistant coach and Curry's shooting coach on the team,

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<v Speaker 1>Bruce Frasier, better known by the team as Q, has

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<v Speaker 1>watched Curry hit one long, ridiculous shot after another in

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<v Speaker 1>practice settings. He knows the secret to all of Curry's trips.

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<v Speaker 7>Somehow has a genetic gift with hand eye coordination. That's

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<v Speaker 7>his genetic gift and as far as superior than to

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<v Speaker 7>any human I've ever seen and in anything. So you

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<v Speaker 7>give him a bowling ball, you give him a tennis racket.

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<v Speaker 7>You know he's not professional, but he's elite at anything

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<v Speaker 7>that you hand him and say, this is the game.

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<v Speaker 7>So it's kind of the ball and stick. You do

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<v Speaker 7>this and we're going to and he's going to be

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<v Speaker 7>elite at it. Right. I can't imagine being able to

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<v Speaker 7>flip balls with my left hand the same as my

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<v Speaker 7>right hand, to shoot it from the here, to shoot

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<v Speaker 7>it from here. But this guy, it's not just in

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<v Speaker 7>these big games, but it's also just when he's messing

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<v Speaker 7>around in the gym. So I have seen these shots,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, throughout the years, over and over again. So

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<v Speaker 7>in that moment, you know, Steph has practiced these shots,

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<v Speaker 7>and he loves big moments. He loves the show. He

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<v Speaker 7>loves the moment. No moment's too big for him. That's

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<v Speaker 7>what he wants.

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<v Speaker 8>Two seconds to work with Curry from Midcorn.

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<v Speaker 7>If you were going to say, what's the mechanical brilliance,

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<v Speaker 7>He's able to generate power in a physics form like

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<v Speaker 7>I wouldn't know. But when you start a shot, there's

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<v Speaker 7>there's kind of a momentum that goes into it. Along

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<v Speaker 7>with a finely tuned skill, it's the kinetic chain that

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<v Speaker 7>you have to generate that power. Because if you look

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<v Speaker 7>at Stef's arms, he's got some you know, genetic beast Like.

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<v Speaker 7>He's not a superhero, he's a self made MVP. He's

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<v Speaker 7>a common man with thin arms and thin body and

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<v Speaker 7>six three, but he's able to generate that force where

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<v Speaker 7>that ball finishes right at the right moment. It's like

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<v Speaker 7>a golfer and he's got people. It's like that force

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<v Speaker 7>is generated and he's able to let it go right

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<v Speaker 7>at the right moment, and he's perfected that so he

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<v Speaker 7>shoots normal shots from range that most people aren't able

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<v Speaker 7>to generate that kind of power, no matter how strong

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<v Speaker 7>they are. That's one of his brilliances. It's the hand

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<v Speaker 7>eye and the ability to generate that connectic force as

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<v Speaker 7>you say to about ball, to release right at the

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<v Speaker 7>right time, and then to fine tune at the end.

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<v Speaker 1>If you ever get access to a hot tub time

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<v Speaker 1>machine and wanted to watch one of the most electric,

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<v Speaker 1>satisfying and transformative seasons ever, set that hot tub for

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty fifteen to sixteen NBA season and focus in

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<v Speaker 1>on Curry.

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<v Speaker 9>He was coming off.

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<v Speaker 1>His first NBA Most Valuable Player award and was on

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<v Speaker 1>the defending champion team that was effectively running it back.

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<v Speaker 1>Steph was twenty seven years old, at the peak of

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<v Speaker 1>his prime, and had overcome the ankle injuries and the

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<v Speaker 1>doubt he had helped Warriors Basketball go from a fun

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<v Speaker 1>brand to a franchise, lifting the NBA in a time

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<v Speaker 1>when peak of his powers Lebron and end of career

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<v Speaker 1>Kobe Bryant were still giving the NBA some life, Curry

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<v Speaker 1>and the Warriors were providing the energy and the electricity somehow.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite a surprise season that brought the Warriors their first

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<v Speaker 1>championship in forty years, it felt like Golden State still

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<v Speaker 1>had more to give, and Curry what's the best example

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<v Speaker 1>of that. His confidence shot through the roof this season,

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<v Speaker 1>and his play demonstrated as much. As Fraser explains, Curry

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<v Speaker 1>was prepared for even more of a breakthrough because his

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<v Speaker 1>initial point to believe under Steve Kerr was such a success.

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<v Speaker 7>I was lucky to be good friends with Steve and

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<v Speaker 7>former teammates, so I had a lot of insight into

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<v Speaker 7>what we may want to do offensively, but it was uncertain,

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<v Speaker 7>and Steve had a vision, but you know, we had

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<v Speaker 7>He had questioned, He had he had considered a lot

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<v Speaker 7>of the things that his former coaches that he really

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<v Speaker 7>liked did and he wanted to implement some of those things.

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<v Speaker 7>But Steph was the question marking it because and the

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<v Speaker 7>rest of the team, you know, like, do you put

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<v Speaker 7>in the triangle offense? Because he loved the triangle from

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<v Speaker 7>Phil and what they did in Chicago, and he loved

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<v Speaker 7>the movement and the re based actions of it. But

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<v Speaker 7>it might take the ball out of Steph's hands. That

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<v Speaker 7>was a question. And Steph with the ball in his

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<v Speaker 7>hands was brilliant. And then you know, with the other

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<v Speaker 7>pieces move in harmony with that. And you know, even

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<v Speaker 7>some of the stuff that Papovich did with the Horns

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<v Speaker 7>action in the Strong and Weeks, So he wanted to

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<v Speaker 7>include some of that. And ironically, he really loved some

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<v Speaker 7>of the kind of the split action that Sloan did.

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<v Speaker 7>And so there was Lennie Wilkins, there was some there

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<v Speaker 7>was some influence from some of his former coaches that

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<v Speaker 7>he was considering piecing together. But how would this all

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<v Speaker 7>work with Steph Curry and Klay Thompson. And so the

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<v Speaker 7>the take on it was a hybrid of that of

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<v Speaker 7>those things, knowing that Steph still had to have the

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<v Speaker 7>ball in his hands. And as we grew with Steph

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<v Speaker 7>and that team, the reality was is that we couldn't

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<v Speaker 7>take Steph's kind of Mustang spirit away. From him. So

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<v Speaker 7>he was going to make mistakes, he was going to

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<v Speaker 7>throw the ball around a little bit, and he was

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<v Speaker 7>going to shoot from wherever we wanted. And that was

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<v Speaker 7>good because if we started to talk about shot selection

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<v Speaker 7>or this is a good shot, there was a bad shot,

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<v Speaker 7>we felt like that would take away his spirit and

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<v Speaker 7>we wanted that spirit because it was it was a

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<v Speaker 7>brilliant spirit. So he sort of showed us what he

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<v Speaker 7>was capable of, and I think Steve, without contradicting myself,

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<v Speaker 7>bridled that enough to you know, to make it click

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<v Speaker 7>with all with all the others. So we had to

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<v Speaker 7>live through some of those crazy shots, but some of

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<v Speaker 7>those crazy shots went in. So is that a crazy

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<v Speaker 7>shot or is that a brilliance of this player? And

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<v Speaker 7>so we we learned that that was one of the stuff,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, strengths, and.

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<v Speaker 10>It really changed the game with the range he had

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<v Speaker 10>and the ability to shoot early in the shot clot

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<v Speaker 10>where he maybe you're going to get something better if

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<v Speaker 10>you run in and play, but we let stuff and Clay

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<v Speaker 10>both go.

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<v Speaker 1>With Curry as free and confident as ever, the small

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<v Speaker 1>details of his game began to improve, making him something

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<v Speaker 1>the game had never seen before. A mix of grace,

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<v Speaker 1>skill and killer instinct that could get his buckets from

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere on the floor. Somehow, he was better than the

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<v Speaker 1>previous season, an MVP season, because he read the game

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<v Speaker 1>so much better. According to Fraser, he.

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<v Speaker 7>Learned how to move without the ball. That was something

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<v Speaker 7>that he hadn't done much of prior to that time.

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<v Speaker 7>I've mentioned this about the Memphis series. He learned how

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<v Speaker 7>to relocate a similar he learned how to set screens

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<v Speaker 7>for others. He's a brilliant screamer. And then he became

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<v Speaker 7>a much better passer. He was always a capable passer,

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<v Speaker 7>but he learned how to pass. So the evolution of

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<v Speaker 7>stuff Curry as a player and the skill set evolved,

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<v Speaker 7>and the evolution of stuff.

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<v Speaker 11>Is as kind of the maturity of his game started

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<v Speaker 11>to grow too. And that's where it is now that

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<v Speaker 11>that was those were growing years for him to start

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<v Speaker 11>to see the game in different ways and then to

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<v Speaker 11>utilize it to his skill set. And so the championship

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<v Speaker 11>was proof that this is the way he could be elite,

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<v Speaker 11>not just in a high ball screen or not just

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<v Speaker 11>in a one.

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<v Speaker 7>On one action. He could be elite by using all

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<v Speaker 7>of these tools to perfect his game, and he had

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<v Speaker 7>the people around him Andre Rudala, Andrew Boget, brilliant passer,

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<v Speaker 7>Sean Livingston. He had these guys that could get him

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<v Speaker 7>the ball in places that he was unstoppable, and he

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<v Speaker 7>moved those places and they cater tuned. So I think

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<v Speaker 7>I think the mindset for him was I can evolve

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<v Speaker 7>in this way.

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<v Speaker 1>Steph wasted no time showing off the new, finer details

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<v Speaker 1>of his game in the fifteen to sixteen season. Chef Curtain,

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<v Speaker 1>as Drake first called him in a twenty thirteen song

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<v Speaker 1>zero to one hundred, was cooking with the sauce from

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<v Speaker 1>the jump, scoring forty in his first game, then fifty

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<v Speaker 1>three in his third game, both coming against the poor

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<v Speaker 1>New Orleans Pelicans.

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<v Speaker 3>Got babit switched out on a hurry for three and

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<v Speaker 3>fifty one.

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<v Speaker 1>Fuck, he makes believers out of it, but they still

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<v Speaker 1>don't get.

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<v Speaker 7>Up any closer.

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<v Speaker 12>Hurry, He's going to go to the line.

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<v Speaker 4>He hits New Orleans for forty opening night.

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<v Speaker 13>And sitting on fifty two right now fifty three.

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<v Speaker 1>Step talked to Warriors sideline with Porter ros Goold on

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<v Speaker 1>Blue Day after the game about his ever lengthening range.

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<v Speaker 7>So hard this season.

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<v Speaker 14>It looks like you are getting very comfortable taking deep, deep,

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<v Speaker 14>deep deep threes.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you working on that? I mean, what is your range?

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<v Speaker 1>Is there anywhere that you hesitate?

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<v Speaker 15>I mean, with that reason, bruh, I hope that I

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<v Speaker 15>keep making him. It gives me that much more confidence.

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<v Speaker 15>Is if you mess a couple in a row, No,

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<v Speaker 15>I get a little bit close if we keep shooting.

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<v Speaker 15>But I mean, as long as I'm making him, I'll

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<v Speaker 15>keep taking them.

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<v Speaker 3>Within those but then rhythm.

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<v Speaker 1>That fifty three point game would already be, by advanced

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<v Speaker 1>statistical measure, his best complete game of the season, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was just the beginning of jaw dropping shooting performances.

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<v Speaker 1>He was in such a comfort zone to start this season,

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<v Speaker 1>Curry put on some of the more efficient shows of

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<v Speaker 1>his career, like the time he visited his hometown of

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<v Speaker 1>Charlotte on December second, with his father Dell watching, as

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<v Speaker 1>he normally does in these contests because he's the color

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<v Speaker 1>analyst on the Hornets TV broadcast. Curry dropped forth, but

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<v Speaker 1>he did so on just eighteen shots with four free throws.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like a mathematical riddle, but he managed forty

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<v Speaker 1>points because he hit fourteen of his eighteen shots for

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<v Speaker 1>a seventy eight percent clip, including eight of his eleven

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<v Speaker 1>three point attempts.

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<v Speaker 16>Curry just incredible, Hope, That's what he does. He is

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<v Speaker 16>the best shooter on the planet today and he knows it.

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<v Speaker 1>He delivered. Now, I can totally understand if you're confused

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<v Speaker 1>given the reaction of that crap. But yes, that game

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<v Speaker 1>was in sharp. It was a road game. Until it

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<v Speaker 1>was After that game, the Warriors twentieth of the season,

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<v Speaker 1>Curry's team still hadn't lost. They were undefeated and stayed

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<v Speaker 1>so for another four games after that. It would immediately

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<v Speaker 1>spark the question of whether this team could break the

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago Bulls nineteen ninety six mark of seventy two to

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<v Speaker 1>ten as the greatest regular season ever, and the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four wins to open the campaign broke the record for

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<v Speaker 1>the longest win streak to start a season by nine games.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a magical run in the midst of a

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<v Speaker 1>magical run, two ninety one Boston by one Curry.

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<v Speaker 16>Wow, I want to tell you if that is one

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<v Speaker 16>of the best huts I've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>Anybody think I'm ne'.

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<v Speaker 5>A minute to go in the game, Green they want,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, they want Curry handling the ball and Harry coups.

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<v Speaker 1>There it goes, ooh, you didn't be that wasn't just

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<v Speaker 1>another roadkie. That was teeny Garden in Boston.

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<v Speaker 17>Don't think we didn't hear a good amount of cheers

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<v Speaker 17>mixed in with those groans. The Warriors were becoming a

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<v Speaker 17>phenomenon everywhere, but it was missing something someone.

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<v Speaker 1>To be more precise, Steve Kerr had not been a

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<v Speaker 1>part of it. Two days into training camp, the Warriors

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<v Speaker 1>coach decided to take time off to address complications from

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<v Speaker 1>what was supposed to be a simple back procedure to

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<v Speaker 1>repair a ruptured disc.

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<v Speaker 18>So you know, when you when you have a surgery,

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<v Speaker 18>you asked, you know, what are the what are the risks?

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<v Speaker 18>And so I, my, my, my surgery was the least

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<v Speaker 18>risky of any vacks. You know, it's the most basic

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<v Speaker 18>micro diskected me where there you have a ruptured disc

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<v Speaker 18>and they're just taking the pieces of the discount. And

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<v Speaker 18>so I asked about what the risks were, and I said, well, okay,

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<v Speaker 18>well what are the chances of that? And I'm not

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<v Speaker 18>going to get into all the you know, the medical

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<v Speaker 18>detail of what happened, but basically the chances were incredibly

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<v Speaker 18>slim that anything would go wrong, but they did.

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<v Speaker 1>What had been considered routine far as back surgeries go

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<v Speaker 1>turned into a nightmare. During the operation in twenty fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>Kerr's dura, the membrane surrounding the spinal cord was accidentally cut,

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<v Speaker 1>allowing some cerebro spinal fluid to leak. The leak caused

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<v Speaker 1>severe headaches and fatigue, and by September of twenty fifteen,

0:16:23.069 --> 0:16:26.109
<v Speaker 1>Kerr needed another surgery to address it. He was still

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<v Speaker 1>recovering from said surgery when training camp started, so the

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<v Speaker 1>riggers that come with coaching were impossible for him, and

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<v Speaker 1>the recovery would last far longer than the forty three

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<v Speaker 1>games he missed.

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<v Speaker 18>So it was pretty rough and life changing and changed

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<v Speaker 18>everything in my life in terms of how how I

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<v Speaker 18>had to approach things, how I had to work to

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<v Speaker 18>get my body right, how I had to work to

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<v Speaker 18>manage the chronic pain that ensued headaches. It was a

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<v Speaker 18>challenge of a lifetime and remains that. You know, that

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<v Speaker 18>was the biggest thing that I will ever face because

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<v Speaker 18>health trump's all, you know, the other stuff is all

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<v Speaker 18>all dependent on good health, you know, enjoying your life

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<v Speaker 18>and family and your work and it all is dependent

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<v Speaker 18>on health. So it was a tough, tough time.

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<v Speaker 1>It was terrible.

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<v Speaker 18>It was terrible. I mean I was I was thrilled for.

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<v Speaker 1>The team, but I felt left out.

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<v Speaker 18>You know, I'm laying at home on my bed and

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<v Speaker 18>watching this dominant team win night after night, and I'm

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<v Speaker 18>not there to enjoy being part of it. Yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 18>It was rough.

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<v Speaker 1>Rick Welts, Warriors, team president at the time, compared this

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<v Speaker 1>extended stretch to the time Curry was battling ankle injuries.

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<v Speaker 1>There was uncertainty surrounding the future of one of the

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<v Speaker 1>key and most treasured figures of the organization.

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<v Speaker 19>Here's Wells one of my scariest times, you know, in

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<v Speaker 19>terms of the people that you're around and you see,

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<v Speaker 19>you know, the challenges that they face. And just as

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<v Speaker 19>you described, I mean just his face was a different color,

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<v Speaker 19>like he just wasn't uh, you know, you could just

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<v Speaker 19>see what he was battling and heroically but but still,

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<v Speaker 19>you know, pain is pain, and there's just no way

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<v Speaker 19>to completely avoid it or basket and you know, stepping

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<v Speaker 19>away in the midst of you know, an amazing run

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<v Speaker 19>playoff run right, and not knowing again if you're going

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<v Speaker 19>to be healthy enough to come back. For the same

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<v Speaker 19>reasons we talked about with Steph, just at that point

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<v Speaker 19>it was such a beloved part of the organization that

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<v Speaker 19>it was it was much more a personal thing than

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<v Speaker 19>it was like value to the team thing, because he

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<v Speaker 19>really wanted for him to recover in a way that

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<v Speaker 19>he could enjoy life the way that he always enjoyed life,

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<v Speaker 19>because that that that life joy he shared with everybody

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<v Speaker 19>around him and continues to to this day.

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<v Speaker 1>The warriors near spotless play for half that season didn't

0:19:09.469 --> 0:19:12.629
<v Speaker 1>mask the pain for Kerk, but it did take attention

0:19:12.749 --> 0:19:15.989
<v Speaker 1>away from the fact he was out. In fact, as

0:19:16.069 --> 0:19:19.908
<v Speaker 1>memory serves, there wasn't that much national sympathy for Kerr

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<v Speaker 1>because we really didn't know how bad the complications were.

0:19:24.029 --> 0:19:28.029
<v Speaker 1>There were, however, raging debates about whether Kerr deserved credit

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<v Speaker 1>for the wins. Those thirty nine wins and four losses

0:19:32.509 --> 0:19:35.909
<v Speaker 1>where the Warriors were coached by assistant Luke Walton, those

0:19:35.909 --> 0:19:39.829
<v Speaker 1>were credited to Steve Kerr. It was a technicality that

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<v Speaker 1>stirred so much debate it even reached Kerr directly before

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<v Speaker 1>he came back to the side, well maybe not directly.

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<v Speaker 18>The last few weeks before I came back, I was

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<v Speaker 18>traveling with the team before I started coaching, and we

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<v Speaker 18>were in Portland and Luke Walton and I went to

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<v Speaker 18>dinner with a couple of the other coaches and he

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<v Speaker 18>jumped in an uber and Luke's in the front seat.

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<v Speaker 18>I'm behind the driver and the driver says, hey, you're

0:20:05.589 --> 0:20:09.109
<v Speaker 18>Luke Walton and he goes yeah. He goes, man, it's

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<v Speaker 18>it's it's bull that coach Kerr is getting credit for

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<v Speaker 18>all your wins. I mean, you're like thirty nine and

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<v Speaker 18>two and they and I read the other day they're

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<v Speaker 18>given the given the credit to coach Kerr. He gets

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<v Speaker 18>the wins on his record, and we just it was

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<v Speaker 18>it was so fun.

0:20:24.549 --> 0:20:27.029
<v Speaker 20>We ran with it, you know. We all started chirping

0:20:27.069 --> 0:20:30.549
<v Speaker 20>away like yeah, it's such cool like and he's too

0:20:30.749 --> 0:20:33.549
<v Speaker 20>like that guy, you know, and he's taking credit for

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<v Speaker 20>and he's not even here.

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<v Speaker 1>Fraser was one of the coaches in that uber. He

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<v Speaker 1>remembers Walton nailing the dismount. At the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>car ride.

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<v Speaker 7>We get to the restaurant, we got out of the

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<v Speaker 7>car and Luth looks at the driver, said, Hey, what

0:20:47.229 --> 0:20:51.669
<v Speaker 7>your name? Guy's mad. He's like came out meet Steve Kerr. Guy,

0:20:52.429 --> 0:20:56.269
<v Speaker 7>guy who turned like ghostly white. It's funny that you know,

0:20:56.309 --> 0:20:58.229
<v Speaker 7>and Steve's got a good sense of Umisoda's luke.

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<v Speaker 1>So Kerr would struggle with back pain and headaches even

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<v Speaker 1>after returning, still occasionally taking time away from the team,

0:21:08.349 --> 0:21:12.429
<v Speaker 1>including during the twenty sixteen playoffs. As a sideline reporter,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd get access to Kerr before games along with the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the broadcast team, and around this time he

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<v Speaker 1>often looked and sounded miserable. He tried to be as

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<v Speaker 1>pleasant as he'd always been and share stories like he

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<v Speaker 1>always had, but you can tell he was grinning through pain.

0:21:29.709 --> 0:21:33.069
<v Speaker 1>He couldn't sit properly in his chair. His face was

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<v Speaker 1>some combination of gray and pale green. His smile was

0:21:37.149 --> 0:21:40.469
<v Speaker 1>certainly forced, and this was after he'd been back for

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<v Speaker 1>some time. Needless to say, Kerr absolutely needed those forty

0:21:46.869 --> 0:21:51.189
<v Speaker 1>three games off. And while Walton's part in this usually

0:21:51.269 --> 0:21:54.429
<v Speaker 1>just restarts the debate about who deserves the wins, the

0:21:54.469 --> 0:21:57.789
<v Speaker 1>assistant coach who's now with the Detroit Pistons deserves a

0:21:57.829 --> 0:22:00.668
<v Speaker 1>ton of credit for nurturing this dynasty at a key period.

0:22:01.349 --> 0:22:04.269
<v Speaker 1>Bruce Fraser noticed Kerr's condition at the start of training

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<v Speaker 1>camp and notified Welton of what might come.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't want to sound like some whisper or some

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<v Speaker 7>of here, but I went to Luke and I said,

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<v Speaker 7>you you should be ready to coach this team. And

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<v Speaker 7>he's like, what I said, I don't know if he's

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<v Speaker 7>going to be able to do it, and he looked

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<v Speaker 7>at me like I was crazy. I said, you better

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<v Speaker 7>start preparing. And to credit to Luke, you know, Luke

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<v Speaker 7>prepared and was had the respect of the players in

0:22:37.669 --> 0:22:40.509
<v Speaker 7>a good way where he was he was a relevant

0:22:40.549 --> 0:22:44.589
<v Speaker 7>former player and capable, very very bright basketball mind. You

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<v Speaker 7>don't always get that through just talking to him because

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<v Speaker 7>he's pretty laid back, you know, California draws, but he's

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<v Speaker 7>very very bright mind and the player is Actually our

0:23:01.429 --> 0:23:04.509
<v Speaker 7>team was so such a well oiled machine at that

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<v Speaker 7>point after that first year and all the patterns that

0:23:07.429 --> 0:23:09.948
<v Speaker 7>we had rehearsed and gotten better at with what we

0:23:09.949 --> 0:23:14.589
<v Speaker 7>were doing. That credit to those guys. They they not

0:23:14.709 --> 0:23:18.269
<v Speaker 7>only were really good at, you know, the things we

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<v Speaker 7>had put in, but they gave Luke a lot of

0:23:22.229 --> 0:23:24.509
<v Speaker 7>rope and wanted to do well for him too, so

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<v Speaker 7>he had the respect of the players. I think they

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<v Speaker 7>knew that they gave him rope with some of our

0:23:30.269 --> 0:23:34.709
<v Speaker 7>you know ato's, and they came execution me. Luke and

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<v Speaker 7>I had a kind of a running joke. We had

0:23:36.909 --> 0:23:38.709
<v Speaker 7>a play called dive roll, which was just sort of

0:23:39.469 --> 0:23:41.829
<v Speaker 7>fake ball screen into a high ball screen for Steph.

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<v Speaker 7>And anytime we weren't certain of what we may want

0:23:44.909 --> 0:23:46.789
<v Speaker 7>to do, Luke would looked at me and say dive

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<v Speaker 7>roll and start laughing because we knew that that was

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<v Speaker 7>going to be the ball into STEP's hands and there's

0:23:52.269 --> 0:23:54.269
<v Speaker 7>a good chance something good was going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Behind Steph. The Warriors dived and rolled to a thirty

0:24:00.109 --> 0:24:02.869
<v Speaker 1>nine and four record on pace to break the record

0:24:02.869 --> 0:24:06.789
<v Speaker 1>for the best season ever. The difference in Curry was evident.

0:24:07.669 --> 0:24:10.229
<v Speaker 1>His three point attempts jumped from eight point one in

0:24:10.269 --> 0:24:13.029
<v Speaker 1>his first MVP season to eleven point two to a

0:24:13.069 --> 0:24:16.389
<v Speaker 1>game in the fifteen to sixteen season, yet he shot

0:24:16.429 --> 0:24:20.029
<v Speaker 1>those with even better efficiency. His scoring increased by more

0:24:20.069 --> 0:24:22.948
<v Speaker 1>than six points to a league leading thirty point one

0:24:22.989 --> 0:24:27.148
<v Speaker 1>a game, the largest leap ever for an MVP. Steph

0:24:27.149 --> 0:24:29.829
<v Speaker 1>finished fourth in the Most Improved voting that year also

0:24:30.229 --> 0:24:34.069
<v Speaker 1>but lost in a landslide to Portland CJ. McCullum. Just

0:24:34.189 --> 0:24:36.509
<v Speaker 1>like Rookie of the Year back in OH nine, Steph

0:24:36.669 --> 0:24:39.629
<v Speaker 1>probably should have won this award too. If there was

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<v Speaker 1>one moment where you could identify how confident Curry felt

0:24:43.069 --> 0:24:46.309
<v Speaker 1>in what would be his second MVP season, and the

0:24:46.349 --> 0:24:49.949
<v Speaker 1>moment the entire NBA realized Curry must be guarded anywhere

0:24:50.069 --> 0:24:53.109
<v Speaker 1>and everywhere. It was at the end of an overtime

0:24:53.149 --> 0:25:00.948
<v Speaker 1>game in Oklahoma City on February twenty seven. After the break,

0:25:01.629 --> 0:25:04.389
<v Speaker 1>we hear from Mike Breen himself on what may be

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<v Speaker 1>the most memorable single shot in Steph Curry's career and

0:25:08.349 --> 0:25:21.829
<v Speaker 1>the origin of the double bang. Klay Thompson had already

0:25:21.829 --> 0:25:26.149
<v Speaker 1>scored thirty two, Draymond Green had fourteen assists, six steals,

0:25:26.189 --> 0:25:29.388
<v Speaker 1>and four block shots, and yet the Warriors in thunder

0:25:29.549 --> 0:25:34.789
<v Speaker 1>wearin overtime and tied at one eighteen. Russell Westbrook missed

0:25:34.789 --> 0:25:38.509
<v Speaker 1>a jumper with eight seconds remaining, which Andre Iguidala rebounded

0:25:38.749 --> 0:25:42.709
<v Speaker 1>and kicked over to Curry. Having already nailed eleven three

0:25:42.709 --> 0:25:45.908
<v Speaker 1>pointers in this game, Curry casually brought the ball up

0:25:45.949 --> 0:25:48.148
<v Speaker 1>the left side of the court, and when he was

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<v Speaker 1>parallel to the r in the thunder logo mere steps

0:25:51.949 --> 0:25:56.069
<v Speaker 1>past half court, Curry launched one of the gutsiest regular

0:25:56.149 --> 0:26:02.029
<v Speaker 1>season shots, a thirty seven foot bomb that had everyone shot.

0:26:02.909 --> 0:26:04.989
<v Speaker 1>He heard this call at the top of the episode,

0:26:05.269 --> 0:26:09.749
<v Speaker 1>but it's well worth hearing again. They do have a

0:26:09.789 --> 0:26:11.229
<v Speaker 1>time out decide.

0:26:10.869 --> 0:26:12.269
<v Speaker 3>Not to use of Curry quite on.

0:26:14.709 --> 0:26:15.869
<v Speaker 7>A step of.

0:26:16.029 --> 0:26:21.349
<v Speaker 2>Curry what six steps of a second remating but probably

0:26:21.349 --> 0:26:22.789
<v Speaker 2>a choice of stuff.

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<v Speaker 9>But continues.

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<v Speaker 1>If Andre Rogerson, the defender on that play, who recognized

0:26:30.549 --> 0:26:33.309
<v Speaker 1>the situation a smidge too late, was the most shot

0:26:33.829 --> 0:26:38.429
<v Speaker 1>by Steph's launch, then Mike Breen was clearly second. Breen

0:26:38.469 --> 0:26:41.629
<v Speaker 1>had already coined the term bangon for whenever a player

0:26:41.629 --> 0:26:45.189
<v Speaker 1>would hit a big shot. This shot by Curry was

0:26:45.229 --> 0:26:49.149
<v Speaker 1>the first double bang of Breen's career. There would be

0:26:49.229 --> 0:26:52.109
<v Speaker 1>a handful of others over the years, but this was

0:26:52.429 --> 0:26:54.148
<v Speaker 1>the double bang origin moment.

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<v Speaker 13>That was the epitome of the self confidence that he

0:26:58.589 --> 0:27:02.909
<v Speaker 13>has and has always had. And you know, and so

0:27:02.989 --> 0:27:05.109
<v Speaker 13>he'll tell you all the time, his self confidence is

0:27:05.149 --> 0:27:07.789
<v Speaker 13>from all the work put into getting to that point.

0:27:08.429 --> 0:27:12.189
<v Speaker 13>But there was nobody in the building but Steph Curry,

0:27:12.669 --> 0:27:14.629
<v Speaker 13>who thought he was going to put off the shot

0:27:14.669 --> 0:27:18.509
<v Speaker 13>when he did, he had a little extra time. The

0:27:18.549 --> 0:27:20.229
<v Speaker 13>thunder didn't think he was going to shoot it there.

0:27:20.309 --> 0:27:22.429
<v Speaker 13>I certainly didn't think he was going to shoot it there.

0:27:22.589 --> 0:27:24.349
<v Speaker 13>I had to play catch up on the call because

0:27:24.389 --> 0:27:29.229
<v Speaker 13>I didn't expect it, and just again's that's the ultimate

0:27:29.789 --> 0:27:32.669
<v Speaker 13>self confident shot by the greatest shooter who's ever played.

0:27:32.949 --> 0:27:37.109
<v Speaker 13>It's a complete out of body experience. I don't plan it.

0:27:37.109 --> 0:27:40.589
<v Speaker 13>It just was so shocking and it happened so quickly

0:27:41.749 --> 0:27:44.549
<v Speaker 13>that I kind of lost my mind, and I remember

0:27:44.589 --> 0:27:47.389
<v Speaker 13>thinking after like, did I go over the top there?

0:27:47.509 --> 0:27:50.229
<v Speaker 13>Because I felt like I that's as much as I

0:27:50.269 --> 0:27:53.669
<v Speaker 13>ever lost it on a call. But it the moment

0:27:53.749 --> 0:27:56.349
<v Speaker 13>deserved it because of who he was, what they were doing,

0:27:56.749 --> 0:27:57.709
<v Speaker 13>and what he just did.

0:27:58.469 --> 0:28:02.349
<v Speaker 1>This was already four months into STEP's unanimous MVP season,

0:28:02.789 --> 0:28:06.709
<v Speaker 1>and the surprise were still coming. Defenses didn't know what

0:28:06.789 --> 0:28:09.229
<v Speaker 1>to do with him, and the wins were piling up.

0:28:11.109 --> 0:28:14.589
<v Speaker 1>Entering April of that season, the Warriors were sixty eight

0:28:14.669 --> 0:28:18.189
<v Speaker 1>and seven. That meant they could afford to lose two

0:28:18.229 --> 0:28:21.189
<v Speaker 1>of the final seven games and still break the Chicago

0:28:21.189 --> 0:28:24.469
<v Speaker 1>Bulls record of seventy two and ten. That seemed like

0:28:24.549 --> 0:28:27.869
<v Speaker 1>a guarantee. This team hadn't lost more than two games

0:28:27.909 --> 0:28:30.789
<v Speaker 1>in any month of the season. Surely going five and

0:28:30.869 --> 0:28:34.709
<v Speaker 1>two would be a cakewalk to end it. Not so fast.

0:28:35.429 --> 0:28:38.989
<v Speaker 1>On April first, the Warriors, in what seemed like a prank,

0:28:39.549 --> 0:28:41.789
<v Speaker 1>suffered their first home loss of the season to the

0:28:41.789 --> 0:28:46.189
<v Speaker 1>Boston Celtics. It was April and Golden State had been

0:28:46.309 --> 0:28:47.349
<v Speaker 1>undefeated at.

0:28:47.189 --> 0:28:54.149
<v Speaker 12>Home, no home losses this season. Golden State's gonna need

0:28:54.189 --> 0:28:57.549
<v Speaker 12>a miracle to keep that. Going down three to eight

0:28:57.589 --> 0:29:00.749
<v Speaker 12>point three to go, it is living stint to trigger

0:29:00.829 --> 0:29:03.629
<v Speaker 12>two players down, no timeouts, has to get it in

0:29:04.069 --> 0:29:06.069
<v Speaker 12>three at the top, to Curry.

0:29:06.029 --> 0:29:10.789
<v Speaker 21>Step fix free for the time to go, Timpson to

0:29:10.949 --> 0:29:15.269
<v Speaker 21>barn stepp back free for the time. And the Boston

0:29:15.429 --> 0:29:19.909
<v Speaker 21>Celtics have stopped the record run at home of the

0:29:19.949 --> 0:29:22.989
<v Speaker 21>Golden State Warriors.

0:29:24.469 --> 0:29:27.989
<v Speaker 1>Then, after a recovery win against the Blazers, the Warriors

0:29:27.989 --> 0:29:31.509
<v Speaker 1>lost another home game, this one feeling even more like

0:29:31.549 --> 0:29:35.109
<v Speaker 1>a joke because it was to the lowly Minnesota Timberwolves

0:29:35.149 --> 0:29:39.469
<v Speaker 1>behind a career best thirty five points from Shabbaz Mohammad,

0:29:40.149 --> 0:29:42.669
<v Speaker 1>Remember him, It's okay if you don't.

0:29:44.309 --> 0:29:49.309
<v Speaker 5>Bosma, I mean ol has fed off fire. He has

0:29:49.629 --> 0:29:50.749
<v Speaker 5>thirty ports.

0:29:51.749 --> 0:29:54.349
<v Speaker 1>That meant Golden State needed to win its final four

0:29:54.429 --> 0:29:58.869
<v Speaker 1>games to break the record. For context, seventy to ten

0:29:58.989 --> 0:30:01.669
<v Speaker 1>is one of those sports numbers that people just knew,

0:30:02.069 --> 0:30:06.069
<v Speaker 1>especially NBA fans. It was Michael Jordan's nineteen ninety six

0:30:06.109 --> 0:30:08.909
<v Speaker 1>Bulls team, the first full season after he came back

0:30:08.909 --> 0:30:12.829
<v Speaker 1>from retirement. They went on to dominate the postseason and

0:30:12.909 --> 0:30:15.509
<v Speaker 1>were widely considered the best team ever.

0:30:20.069 --> 0:30:27.269
<v Speaker 5>By five lighty shirts are trampis show that choke.

0:30:27.149 --> 0:30:32.589
<v Speaker 1>Before it six year as like a three bust products, eighty.

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<v Speaker 5>Shot shot, bar shoring wild one day shot.

0:30:41.629 --> 0:30:43.869
<v Speaker 1>Nike even released a seventy too to ten pair of

0:30:43.949 --> 0:30:46.869
<v Speaker 1>Jordan eleven's that were all the rage I had a pair,

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<v Speaker 1>truly cementing that season as one that will live in

0:30:50.869 --> 0:30:52.749
<v Speaker 1>the minds of basketball fans forever.

0:30:53.509 --> 0:30:55.949
<v Speaker 4>And the first time in the history of the NBA

0:30:56.469 --> 0:31:00.509
<v Speaker 4>that one player has won the regular season Most Valuable Player,

0:31:01.069 --> 0:31:05.709
<v Speaker 4>All Star, Most Valuable Flier, and NBA Finals, a tremendous

0:31:05.709 --> 0:31:07.309
<v Speaker 4>accomplishment by Michael Jordan.

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<v Speaker 1>So for the Warriors to best that, it would not

0:31:14.269 --> 0:31:16.349
<v Speaker 1>only mean they'd be in the conversation at the best

0:31:16.349 --> 0:31:19.829
<v Speaker 1>team ever, but it would mean anything short of a championship.

0:31:20.189 --> 0:31:25.149
<v Speaker 1>Would be wildly disappointed that come playoffs, everyone's record starts O.

0:31:25.229 --> 0:31:28.709
<v Speaker 1>And oh, so, what does the regular season wins record

0:31:28.749 --> 0:31:31.789
<v Speaker 1>really mean if it didn't get you any extra advantages

0:31:31.789 --> 0:31:35.789
<v Speaker 1>in the postseason. Yes, the Spurs were giving chase and

0:31:35.789 --> 0:31:38.469
<v Speaker 1>finished with sixty seven wins, but there was still a

0:31:38.549 --> 0:31:41.229
<v Speaker 1>six game gap between the two teams at season's end.

0:31:42.149 --> 0:31:45.269
<v Speaker 1>In fact, when the Spurs and Warriors played on April tenth,

0:31:45.869 --> 0:31:48.869
<v Speaker 1>the game was meaningless in the standings and only mattered

0:31:48.909 --> 0:31:52.789
<v Speaker 1>because the Warriors were chasing that record. In the second

0:31:52.829 --> 0:31:55.949
<v Speaker 1>to last game of the season, the Warriors needed overtime

0:31:56.029 --> 0:31:58.989
<v Speaker 1>to beat a thunder team that sat both Kevin Durant

0:31:59.109 --> 0:32:03.069
<v Speaker 1>and Russell Westbrook. So the road to seventy three wins

0:32:03.709 --> 0:32:07.229
<v Speaker 1>most turbulent at the end when the games didn't actually

0:32:07.229 --> 0:32:11.949
<v Speaker 1>mean that much. In the regular season finale, Golden State

0:32:11.989 --> 0:32:14.829
<v Speaker 1>faced a Memphis team that still had something to play for,

0:32:15.349 --> 0:32:19.029
<v Speaker 1>jockeying for playoff position with the Rockets and Mavericks. The

0:32:19.069 --> 0:32:21.389
<v Speaker 1>game was such a big deal as they chased the record.

0:32:21.989 --> 0:32:25.629
<v Speaker 1>ESPN broadcast the game simultaneous to Kobe Bryant's final game

0:32:25.669 --> 0:32:29.789
<v Speaker 1>on ESPN two. The Warriors looked like they'd coast to

0:32:29.829 --> 0:32:32.549
<v Speaker 1>the record win, going up by fourteen points in the

0:32:32.549 --> 0:32:35.589
<v Speaker 1>first quarter, So most of the viewing audience stuck with

0:32:35.629 --> 0:32:38.949
<v Speaker 1>the Kobe game after that, and those folks were rewarded

0:32:39.109 --> 0:32:41.749
<v Speaker 1>by watching Kobe drop sixty in his final game.

0:32:42.189 --> 0:32:46.229
<v Speaker 12>Well, Kobe, give them one last gamer. Bryant ti the

0:32:46.269 --> 0:32:47.469
<v Speaker 12>move with the jumper.

0:32:47.949 --> 0:32:54.949
<v Speaker 1>Ye I have sneakers for that game also. But the

0:32:54.989 --> 0:32:59.909
<v Speaker 1>greater historical accomplishment was happening in Golden State. The Warriors,

0:33:00.189 --> 0:33:03.309
<v Speaker 1>behind a player who'd soon be named the first unanimous MVP,

0:33:03.829 --> 0:33:06.469
<v Speaker 1>would finish the best regular season in NBA history.

0:33:08.269 --> 0:33:10.629
<v Speaker 4>That's official number seventy three.

0:33:11.269 --> 0:33:13.189
<v Speaker 1>The greatness regular season.

0:33:12.869 --> 0:33:16.749
<v Speaker 4>In NBA history now belongs to the twenty sixteen gold

0:33:16.789 --> 0:33:17.789
<v Speaker 4>and State Warriors.

0:33:19.949 --> 0:33:22.629
<v Speaker 1>Steph talked with Doris Burke on the court after the game.

0:33:23.709 --> 0:33:24.349
<v Speaker 7>What kind of.

0:33:24.389 --> 0:33:27.389
<v Speaker 14>Character has been required from your guys in the pursuit

0:33:27.429 --> 0:33:30.389
<v Speaker 14>of this historic marks?

0:33:30.509 --> 0:33:33.589
<v Speaker 15>That's everything for us. We have There's so many guys

0:33:33.589 --> 0:33:36.789
<v Speaker 15>that sacrifice that. Everybody has a role in this team,

0:33:36.829 --> 0:33:39.029
<v Speaker 15>and you can say they come in every night with

0:33:39.069 --> 0:33:41.229
<v Speaker 15>that focus of playing a run the best of ability

0:33:41.269 --> 0:33:43.469
<v Speaker 15>and just knowing that's gonna be the best way for

0:33:43.509 --> 0:33:47.349
<v Speaker 15>rest of win games. So practice days, travel days, Dana

0:33:47.389 --> 0:33:50.989
<v Speaker 15>days fifty all being locked in and tider together, that's

0:33:50.989 --> 0:33:51.549
<v Speaker 15>gonna take me.

0:33:51.749 --> 0:33:54.269
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, in what way did the pursuit of this mark

0:33:54.829 --> 0:33:57.149
<v Speaker 14>help you? And what will ultimately be your goal, which

0:33:57.189 --> 0:33:59.349
<v Speaker 14>is a championship? How did this pursuit help that?

0:34:00.429 --> 0:34:02.269
<v Speaker 15>I mean, it just keeps us focus down the stretch.

0:34:02.349 --> 0:34:06.709
<v Speaker 15>We don't have any room for er. You know, we're

0:34:06.709 --> 0:34:10.908
<v Speaker 15>getting everything's best shot, and for us to keep that

0:34:11.469 --> 0:34:13.828
<v Speaker 15>playoff kind of mentality and that playoff focus for our

0:34:13.909 --> 0:34:17.229
<v Speaker 15>ultimate goals, obvious championship. These last two weeks have been

0:34:17.989 --> 0:34:21.109
<v Speaker 15>mentally and physical challenges, So I think it's made us

0:34:21.149 --> 0:34:23.949
<v Speaker 15>better and we'll be fresh with this wecaus.

0:34:25.349 --> 0:34:28.909
<v Speaker 1>At the time, no one would publicly question the decision

0:34:28.949 --> 0:34:31.589
<v Speaker 1>to attempt to set the record despite not needing it

0:34:31.629 --> 0:34:35.229
<v Speaker 1>to claim the number one overall seat. That's probably because

0:34:35.509 --> 0:34:38.509
<v Speaker 1>at the time no one could envision this Warrior's team

0:34:38.549 --> 0:34:41.348
<v Speaker 1>losing in the postseason. But in the Warriors' locker room,

0:34:41.669 --> 0:34:44.829
<v Speaker 1>there were private discussions about how to approach the final

0:34:44.869 --> 0:34:50.268
<v Speaker 1>few games. Andrew Boget sounds regretful when he talks about

0:34:50.309 --> 0:34:51.589
<v Speaker 1>this team decision, the.

0:34:51.709 --> 0:34:53.509
<v Speaker 9>Plays in that locker room that wanted to go for

0:34:53.549 --> 0:34:56.989
<v Speaker 9>seventy three and nine. There were plays that will like,

0:34:57.229 --> 0:35:01.669
<v Speaker 9>let's just be healthy, and I get it, like we're

0:35:01.669 --> 0:35:04.549
<v Speaker 9>going to create history seventy three and nine. But the

0:35:04.629 --> 0:35:06.389
<v Speaker 9>argument from the guys that were like let's just be

0:35:06.429 --> 0:35:09.189
<v Speaker 9>healthy is seventy three and nine doesn't mean I don't

0:35:09.189 --> 0:35:14.429
<v Speaker 9>win the championship. So we as a group, the majority,

0:35:14.709 --> 0:35:16.509
<v Speaker 9>were like, Okay, let's just we're going to roll the

0:35:16.549 --> 0:35:19.269
<v Speaker 9>dice and go for it. We probably could have risted

0:35:19.269 --> 0:35:21.869
<v Speaker 9>guys towards the end of that season, made sure that

0:35:21.949 --> 0:35:24.229
<v Speaker 9>we're fine for the playoffs. So whatever is in the playoffs,

0:35:24.229 --> 0:35:25.308
<v Speaker 9>we'll go guys banged up.

0:35:25.989 --> 0:35:30.308
<v Speaker 1>Right, Injuries can happen in the postseason also, and one

0:35:30.349 --> 0:35:33.909
<v Speaker 1>injury in particular did happen in these twenty sixteen playoffs.

0:35:34.629 --> 0:35:38.509
<v Speaker 1>Steph Curry didn't suffer the most serious of setbacks, but

0:35:38.589 --> 0:35:42.349
<v Speaker 1>it was easily the most significant of this postseason, and frankly,

0:35:42.869 --> 0:35:45.589
<v Speaker 1>it probably would have happened even if the Warriors had

0:35:45.669 --> 0:35:48.669
<v Speaker 1>rested Steph down the stretch of the regular season. In

0:35:48.709 --> 0:35:51.589
<v Speaker 1>the first round against the Rockets. Just before halftime of

0:35:51.709 --> 0:35:56.429
<v Speaker 1>Game four, Golden State had its worst scare possible. Curry

0:35:56.429 --> 0:35:58.909
<v Speaker 1>had already missed the previous two games of this series

0:35:58.949 --> 0:36:01.669
<v Speaker 1>with a sprained ankle he suffered in Game one, and

0:36:01.709 --> 0:36:05.549
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't playing like his usual As the final seconds

0:36:05.549 --> 0:36:08.589
<v Speaker 1>were ticking off the second quarter clock and Trevor Ariza

0:36:08.709 --> 0:36:11.949
<v Speaker 1>was dribbling up the floor for one last shot, James

0:36:11.989 --> 0:36:15.829
<v Speaker 1>Harden and Dinazis Mantiunis clipped feet as they were heading

0:36:15.869 --> 0:36:19.629
<v Speaker 1>up court. That sent Mantiunis sliding on his back for

0:36:19.709 --> 0:36:22.269
<v Speaker 1>about ten feet, leaving a streak of sweat on the

0:36:22.309 --> 0:36:24.989
<v Speaker 1>floor behind him. As Curry was trying to get in

0:36:25.069 --> 0:36:28.229
<v Speaker 1>defensive position in front of Arisa, he slid on that

0:36:28.309 --> 0:36:32.629
<v Speaker 1>fresh Montiuna sweat, sending his feet spraying in opposite directions.

0:36:33.749 --> 0:36:36.748
<v Speaker 1>The inside of Curry's right knee hit the court and

0:36:36.789 --> 0:36:39.469
<v Speaker 1>he immediately grabbed at it, writhing in pain. As the

0:36:39.549 --> 0:36:42.109
<v Speaker 1>halftime buzzer sounded, he not up.

0:36:42.069 --> 0:36:45.429
<v Speaker 13>Yet, still time remaining, Orisa trying to find some room.

0:36:45.509 --> 0:36:47.989
<v Speaker 4>Curry falls down and grabs his right leg.

0:36:49.509 --> 0:36:51.469
<v Speaker 13>Curry asking for help to get up.

0:36:52.149 --> 0:36:55.949
<v Speaker 3>He fell awkwardly and immediately grabbed his right leg and

0:36:55.989 --> 0:36:57.269
<v Speaker 3>you see him hobbling.

0:36:56.949 --> 0:37:05.189
<v Speaker 1>Right now, Curry suffered that great one mcl spring on

0:37:05.229 --> 0:37:08.469
<v Speaker 1>April twenty four. He didn't play again until May ninth,

0:37:08.989 --> 0:37:10.949
<v Speaker 1>and probably would have sat out longer if it was

0:37:10.989 --> 0:37:16.229
<v Speaker 1>the regular season. Now, Steph did have forty points off

0:37:16.229 --> 0:37:18.788
<v Speaker 1>the bench in that comeback game, leading the Warriors to

0:37:18.829 --> 0:37:21.709
<v Speaker 1>an overtime win and hitting the crowd with an I'm

0:37:21.789 --> 0:37:23.829
<v Speaker 1>back after one of his five May threes.

0:37:24.869 --> 0:37:26.229
<v Speaker 13>Warriors could add to their lead.

0:37:26.309 --> 0:37:32.469
<v Speaker 22>Now Curry left wide open right between the eyes and

0:37:32.589 --> 0:37:36.349
<v Speaker 22>then on the bench and details the fans I am back.

0:37:37.029 --> 0:37:40.309
<v Speaker 22>I am back for he is in a big way too.

0:37:40.949 --> 0:37:43.709
<v Speaker 1>But for the rest of these playoffs, the playoffs where

0:37:43.709 --> 0:37:47.069
<v Speaker 1>Golden State needed a championship to complete a dream season,

0:37:47.949 --> 0:37:52.229
<v Speaker 1>Curry would look slightly off. Steph would need his splash

0:37:52.269 --> 0:37:56.029
<v Speaker 1>brother to step up. After the break we learn how

0:37:56.109 --> 0:38:08.029
<v Speaker 1>Game six, Clay was born. Steph Curry would hit five

0:38:08.109 --> 0:38:10.909
<v Speaker 1>threes to close out the Blazers in five games and

0:38:10.949 --> 0:38:14.748
<v Speaker 1>reach the conference finals. But against the Thunder step would

0:38:14.789 --> 0:38:17.748
<v Speaker 1>have two of his worst playoff games, Games one and four,

0:38:18.309 --> 0:38:21.989
<v Speaker 1>and the record setting Warriors suddenly found themselves down three

0:38:21.989 --> 0:38:26.029
<v Speaker 1>games to one to Kevin Durant and the Oklahoma City Thunder.

0:38:28.149 --> 0:38:33.949
<v Speaker 6>That is the first time first season a Warrior for them,

0:38:34.269 --> 0:38:40.189
<v Speaker 6>after having the possible seven FIA Hive Thunder or conference

0:38:40.309 --> 0:38:43.909
<v Speaker 6>last seasons under the eight finals that they lost showing

0:38:43.949 --> 0:38:47.909
<v Speaker 6>it all at out there flashing Game five about a

0:38:48.069 --> 0:38:51.429
<v Speaker 6>possible close out so nice.

0:38:55.029 --> 0:38:59.429
<v Speaker 1>The next few games would spark discussion around Curry. Was

0:38:59.469 --> 0:39:03.189
<v Speaker 1>he actually physically limited by the knee injury or was

0:39:03.189 --> 0:39:06.788
<v Speaker 1>a nation full of Steph Curry fans creating excuses for

0:39:06.869 --> 0:39:11.349
<v Speaker 1>a player who we wanted to see succeed. In the

0:39:11.389 --> 0:39:14.669
<v Speaker 1>Game one loss at home, Steph shot forty percent with

0:39:14.789 --> 0:39:18.549
<v Speaker 1>seven turnovers. In a crucial Game four, he shot it

0:39:18.589 --> 0:39:23.469
<v Speaker 1>even worse, for just nineteen points with six turnovers. Whether

0:39:23.549 --> 0:39:27.069
<v Speaker 1>or not Curry was physically capable of carrying Golden State

0:39:27.549 --> 0:39:31.509
<v Speaker 1>was unclear. What was clear he wouldn't have to do

0:39:31.549 --> 0:39:35.229
<v Speaker 1>it alone. The Warriors won Game five with the Splash

0:39:35.269 --> 0:39:39.828
<v Speaker 1>Brothers combining for fifty eight. Then in Game six, Clay

0:39:39.949 --> 0:39:43.069
<v Speaker 1>Thompson managed to take all the attention away from Steph's

0:39:43.109 --> 0:39:47.469
<v Speaker 1>knee with a season saving Game six performance that earned

0:39:47.509 --> 0:39:59.909
<v Speaker 1>him the simple but fitting nickname Game six Clay.

0:39:56.389 --> 0:39:58.829
<v Speaker 8>Eight point lead for a fog.

0:40:00.389 --> 0:40:01.149
<v Speaker 1>Chris Thompson a.

0:40:01.229 --> 0:40:02.788
<v Speaker 16>Just checked by it pops out of.

0:40:02.829 --> 0:40:07.509
<v Speaker 8>Play now roll those fed a final twelve at of

0:40:07.629 --> 0:40:08.469
<v Speaker 8>the season.

0:40:10.269 --> 0:40:11.349
<v Speaker 16>Right Mada.

0:40:14.749 --> 0:40:18.829
<v Speaker 1>Top shot a rate fall of three top way.

0:40:18.749 --> 0:40:24.109
<v Speaker 8>Topsho Roveros has three quarter by off reapond the times made.

0:40:24.509 --> 0:40:27.429
<v Speaker 1>In what was his signature playoff game in a career

0:40:27.469 --> 0:40:30.989
<v Speaker 1>filled with them, Thompson scored nineteen of his forty one

0:40:31.029 --> 0:40:33.669
<v Speaker 1>points in the fourth quarter. It was a fourth quarter

0:40:33.669 --> 0:40:36.629
<v Speaker 1>that began with the Warriors trailing by eighth and their

0:40:36.669 --> 0:40:37.949
<v Speaker 1>season on the brink.

0:40:39.149 --> 0:40:44.269
<v Speaker 8>Over Give him alive for up Topson, time of shooting,

0:40:44.909 --> 0:40:47.829
<v Speaker 8>water shot, fight play Chompson.

0:40:48.149 --> 0:40:53.348
<v Speaker 5>He is putting off a top difficult three point shot exhibition.

0:40:54.269 --> 0:40:57.829
<v Speaker 1>That's all the heart and will. He's challenging itself. He

0:40:57.869 --> 0:40:59.828
<v Speaker 1>doesn't want to go home unless it's.

0:40:59.749 --> 0:41:00.709
<v Speaker 6>The play game seven.

0:41:01.189 --> 0:41:04.149
<v Speaker 1>The fourth quarter started with three threes from Clay to

0:41:04.229 --> 0:41:07.549
<v Speaker 1>keep his team close. After Steph played his part and

0:41:07.629 --> 0:41:09.788
<v Speaker 1>tied the game at ninety nine with his sixth and

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<v Speaker 1>final three of the game, Thompson would hit his eleventh

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<v Speaker 1>three moments later, giving the Warriors the lead for good.

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<v Speaker 1>Then Clay hit two free throws to close out the

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<v Speaker 1>game and send the series to a game seven. In open.

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<v Speaker 22>Again.

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<v Speaker 8>It was Equidado Thompson fires for three, Yes, Golden State

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<v Speaker 8>one three.

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<v Speaker 1>The Warriors went on to win a nervy game seven

0:41:41.549 --> 0:41:44.989
<v Speaker 1>behind thirty six from Steph and another six threes from Clay,

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<v Speaker 1>reaching their second straight NBA Finals. They'd prepare to face

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron James and the Cleveland Cavaliers again.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, we'll cut it out, Lash, We'll shall here.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh Colorida, Lania sto coming over the tenth two out

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<v Speaker 8>of two hundred twenty three to win a Rush threw

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<v Speaker 8>twel We were getting still walk now.

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<v Speaker 1>Had the Thunder went on to win that Western Conference finals,

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<v Speaker 1>a matchup between Kevin Durant and Lebron James would have

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<v Speaker 1>been a welcome sight for the NBA. Durant had been

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<v Speaker 1>trying to reach James's level of winning, and it would

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<v Speaker 1>have been his second chance at Lebron in the finals,

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<v Speaker 1>having lost to the Miami Heat in twenty twelve. But

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<v Speaker 1>there was something about a rematch between Lebron and Steph

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<v Speaker 1>that felt like it was the best possible option, even

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<v Speaker 1>if they had just based off the previous year. Deep down,

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<v Speaker 1>it was only right there we got an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>play Colden State after lap and last year me personally,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to see Gold State again the force of

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<v Speaker 1>James and the Big three Caves versus the grace of

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<v Speaker 1>the Splash Brothers, or simply could Lebron v. Kerry be

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<v Speaker 1>the modern day Magic b Birth. It would be a

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<v Speaker 1>matchup that would spoil there happen for four straight fights.

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<v Speaker 1>But NBA fans weren't tired of this matchup just yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Breen called all of those fins and he certainly

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<v Speaker 1>didn't mind the rematch.

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<v Speaker 9>And you can't.

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<v Speaker 13>You can't think that way because every season is so different,

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<v Speaker 13>and just from the standpoint, if they brought back the

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<v Speaker 13>exact same rosters the next season, it's so different. Then

0:43:31.909 --> 0:43:35.109
<v Speaker 13>you throw in injuries, you throw in contract situations, and

0:43:35.669 --> 0:43:39.268
<v Speaker 13>can you stay together, So there's no guarantee even if

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<v Speaker 13>you're the best team by far, even if you come

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<v Speaker 13>back home the next year, there's so many things that

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<v Speaker 13>can go differently, and that's the hard way to predict,

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<v Speaker 13>both with those two teams, and probably the fans of

0:43:51.269 --> 0:43:54.788
<v Speaker 13>twenty eight other franchises will completely disagree with me. Both

0:43:54.829 --> 0:43:57.788
<v Speaker 13>with those two teams. If it did happen, you knew

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<v Speaker 13>you had something special because not only were they great teams,

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<v Speaker 13>but you're looking at two of the greatest players to

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<v Speaker 13>ever play at their particular positions and overall in the NBA,

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<v Speaker 13>and the fact that it could lead to a rivalry

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<v Speaker 13>and one of them is going for a dynasty. It's

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<v Speaker 13>the stuff that makes history and what makes the game

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<v Speaker 13>so great.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem for the Warriors at the moment was health.

0:44:21.589 --> 0:44:24.908
<v Speaker 1>Curry's injuries were already noted, but there was another key

0:44:24.949 --> 0:44:29.069
<v Speaker 1>thing the last year's Finals MVP that was also working

0:44:29.109 --> 0:44:31.869
<v Speaker 1>through some knack and pink. It was exactly the vision

0:44:31.909 --> 0:44:34.629
<v Speaker 1>Boge didn't want to see after his team made the

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<v Speaker 1>choice to go for seventy three wins.

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<v Speaker 9>Andre Udala was dealing with a bunch of stuff. Steph

0:44:39.269 --> 0:44:42.029
<v Speaker 9>was dealing with stuff. The Goodala thing was big because

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<v Speaker 9>he was the guy that limited Lebrondi before. He's back

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<v Speaker 9>couldn't moved. He's back was meant up the whole final series.

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<v Speaker 9>We start well, we blow him out in the first

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<v Speaker 9>two games. It's obviously three to one, and then then

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<v Speaker 9>the Draymond thing happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, Yes, the Draymond thing. The Golden State Warriors had

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<v Speaker 1>the most versatile defender in the Lee League and Draymond Green.

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<v Speaker 1>If they had one of the best communicators in the

0:45:06.989 --> 0:45:10.309
<v Speaker 1>league in Draymond Green, they have the perfect compliment to

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<v Speaker 1>the Splash Brothers and Draymond, But they also have one

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<v Speaker 1>of the louder voices in NBA history, one of the

0:45:16.749 --> 0:45:20.149
<v Speaker 1>most demonstrative players in NBA history, and a player who

0:45:20.269 --> 0:45:23.868
<v Speaker 1>often needs to play with unbridled emotion just to get

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<v Speaker 1>the best out of himself, especially in the biggest games.

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<v Speaker 1>In Game four of the twenty sixteen Finals, with his

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<v Speaker 1>team potentially on the verge of winning a second straight

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<v Speaker 1>championship and after the record setting regular season preparing to

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<v Speaker 1>hold the fictional but meaningful title of best team ever Green,

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<v Speaker 1>lets some of those qualities get the worst of them,

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<v Speaker 1>and with one angry swipe of an arm, he changed

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<v Speaker 1>the course.

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<v Speaker 3>At sports history, greated James, joying at each other, We'll

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<v Speaker 3>play the tenures like a dollar, the full off that

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<v Speaker 3>goal and a couple of fouls gonna be called on.

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<v Speaker 1>The next dub dynasty. I wanted to see it, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to see the royal rumble. And I was

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<v Speaker 1>so excited when we got eight in the Finals of

0:46:12.309 --> 0:46:15.509
<v Speaker 1>twenty sixteen, because that's what it felt like when we

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<v Speaker 1>were going over the Bay Bridge.

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<v Speaker 6>I just remember being on the back of the bus

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<v Speaker 6>with all our guys and you know, Lebron speaking that

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<v Speaker 6>you know this, it's already written. Man.

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<v Speaker 18>They opened up the door sometimes that that anger comes out,

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<v Speaker 18>and in some ways we're similar in that regula.

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<v Speaker 13>You just knew that that was one of the most

0:46:36.349 --> 0:46:38.989
<v Speaker 13>spectacular plays in the heat of the moment, at the

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<v Speaker 13>most critical moment that I've ever seen.

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