Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to waken Jake. Happy New year if
Speaker 1: this is your first day actually being a part of it.
Speaker 1: January sixth, Okay, we will go through America's GM. Jim
Speaker 1: Bowden has come out with his free agent team signing predictions.
Speaker 1: The rest of the way. The top fifteen. Okay, interesting number,
Speaker 1: kind of round, kind of not at all. We'll hit
Speaker 1: a little football Lions Vikings was fun last night, and
Speaker 1: the playoff pictures set, but maybe that's going to be
Speaker 1: a lot more Wednesday that. Honestly, the big news that's
Speaker 1: going around the office this morning is our friend Jeff
Speaker 1: Passen or maybe former friend, because he'd liked to think
Speaker 1: he'd let me know these things. Ye our Yankees have
Speaker 1: been talking to Luisa Rise continually. What's the phrase he
Speaker 1: used throughout?
Speaker 2: He said, the Yankees and Padres continue to talk about
Speaker 2: Luisa Rise trade.
Speaker 1: What are they talking about?
Speaker 2: So it applies multiple conversations and more than the like
Speaker 2: typical like they checked in.
Speaker 1: So I guess I'll give you a tidbit on Luis
Speaker 1: a Rise in general and for my Yanks, uh, and
Speaker 1: then get into America's Jam Jim Bowden's article. As the
Speaker 1: walls of this building. I think are starting to fight back.
Speaker 1: So if this is it, thank you and we've had
Speaker 1: our fun and make sure you're subscribed. Uh, the curious
Speaker 1: case of Luisa Rise, Where do we stand on him?
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's some things that could be clipped from
Speaker 1: me that would have an interesting stance on it. Three
Speaker 1: straight batting titles he won it last year, pretty nuts
Speaker 1: and then show hey second that guy m three sixteen,
Speaker 1: three point fifty four with Mi Haammi and then three
Speaker 1: fourteen last year and I don't want to say felt
Speaker 1: like a malaise, but his his year was never off
Speaker 1: the charts. Let me see if I get some month
Speaker 1: to month for you, because in my maybe it started
Speaker 1: slow and it picked up. Uh yeah, three ten, three
Speaker 1: forty two, seven twenty ops three twenty one, three fifty three,
Speaker 1: seven sixty nine, so not insane, A nice August, September
Speaker 1: after Okay, so he had a lackluster middle of the
Speaker 1: season June and July ops is in the sixes. Uh.
Speaker 1: And outside of that, he was kind of who you
Speaker 1: think he is, or maybe I don't know who you
Speaker 1: think he is, because I think the part that's become
Speaker 1: interesting when the original Luis Arise trade from the Marlins happened.
Speaker 1: Everyone was a little surprised there wasn't a ton of
Speaker 1: big time prospects involved. And it was also the Marlins
Speaker 1: that everyone was like, they took a grab bag and
Speaker 1: everyone was like, well, the Marlins have so much to fix,
Speaker 1: and none of these kids were on like a tight
Speaker 1: timeline that they were like, yeah, we'll just take a
Speaker 1: bunch of young guys and something we'll figure itself out.
Speaker 1: Maybe it will. Uh. But the interesting debate side of
Speaker 1: it is, what is Luis Rise's real value you? Because
Speaker 1: he doesn't play defense. He graded out horribly at first
Speaker 1: base last year, He's great at horribly at second base
Speaker 1: in previous years. He's just the best contact bat in
Speaker 1: the game, which if you're willing to use your DH
Speaker 1: position on Louis A. Rise, which I'm not necessarily against,
Speaker 1: although the Yankees have their DH spot clouded because I
Speaker 1: think hitting's hittings hitting, Like, if you're getting the production
Speaker 1: you need from different positions, like why do you care
Speaker 1: If Louisa Rise fits in as your DH, then you
Speaker 1: do that, but you do need production from else where.
Speaker 1: His career high was ten homers in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1: Last year he hit four. He does turn and pull
Speaker 1: on some balls, so I do wonder if there is
Speaker 1: a Yankee aspect of that. You know, if you could
Speaker 1: get Luisa rise to ten twelve homers, that feels a
Speaker 1: little less weird than four or is two that he
Speaker 1: hit in twenty twenty one. I think the thing that's
Speaker 1: interesting is he was accumulating war in twenty twenty two
Speaker 1: and twenty twenty three. He was a four point two
Speaker 1: b war and a four point nine B War. Last year,
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty games, he came out to a
Speaker 1: one war player. And the other thing that makes it
Speaker 1: an interesting spin Louis Arise is starting to get paid.
Speaker 1: He made ten point six last year. Do we know
Speaker 1: where an astimate is?
Speaker 2: Well, well know kind of where everybody lands at the
Speaker 2: end of this week those numbers would do. But I
Speaker 2: think he's estimated around the fourteen number for this year.
Speaker 1: So for a one war player, that's not good. For
Speaker 1: a three time consecutive batting champion for a year or two,
Speaker 1: that could be okay. Uh, it's just where does Luis
Speaker 1: Arise land And this is his last year? Correct, he
Speaker 1: would be a rental Yeah, so one year fourteen MIL
Speaker 1: for Louis a Rise. I think it's easy to say
Speaker 1: from the fan perspective and be like, that's worth it. Man,
Speaker 1: you can get a guy who's gonna hit three fourteen.
Speaker 1: What got you over there? Luis ARRII do you know
Speaker 1: his full name? I don't, Louise.
Speaker 2: Son hell Arise, and that Luis an HeLa Cunya. I
Speaker 2: was like, oh wow, different. You just put those names
Speaker 2: together and that's the Acunya brother. Yeah, and that just
Speaker 2: kind of got me. Okay where that should?
Speaker 1: Yeah? That got you guy? All right, I'm into it.
Speaker 1: Comment your favorite name. I think we see the batting
Speaker 1: average and even the on base percentage, like last year
Speaker 1: three forty six, that's that's nothing to scoff at. The
Speaker 1: year before actually the two previous years in Miami and Minnesota,
Speaker 1: that's really what you're looking for. Three point fifty four,
Speaker 1: three ninety three and eight sixty one. Ohps you. But
Speaker 1: the year before that, I think that's your more honest aim.
Speaker 1: Because even for the best contact hitters in baseball, which
Speaker 1: Luis Arises he hit three sixteen year, which won the
Speaker 1: batting title in the AL three seventy five on base
Speaker 1: a four to twenty slugging for a seven ninety five
Speaker 1: ops so he had thirty plus doubles in each of
Speaker 1: the past three years, which makes kind of those homers.
Speaker 1: Either put him over the top or not offensively. Defensively,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think you just put him at
Speaker 1: second base and pray or maybe first base, but that
Speaker 1: gets scary.
Speaker 2: If you're the Yankees, I would assume the a lineup
Speaker 2: day is a rise at second and you hope for
Speaker 2: the best.
Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing they'd be trading for him as
Speaker 1: a second base and I'm still keeping my hat open
Speaker 1: to the rest of the league just in case. This
Speaker 1: is Jeff Passing not known for blowing smoke except off
Speaker 1: the field that I don't know. If Jeff Passing smoke sweet,
Speaker 1: I can ask him. He's probably got a remember Dwayne
Speaker 1: the Rock Johnson story. Yeah, that was a whole deal. Well,
Speaker 1: another time, we'll get brother Jeff soon. It is better
Speaker 1: at first then second with the rise, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess first base. I know there's a lot of
Speaker 1: tricky plays of first base makes, but essentially, at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, you have to catch the ball.
Speaker 1: He's listed five to ten. Would love to get some
Speaker 1: updates on that both ways, both ways, both ways. Kindly
Speaker 1: for the Yankees, they've had bad defense at second base
Speaker 1: the past couple of years in Glabor Torres, who also
Speaker 1: led off for them in a lot of big moments,
Speaker 1: and with the loss of Juan Soto, you're looking for
Speaker 1: that lefty righty balance. Luisa Rise not only does he
Speaker 1: plug in it at second base, he's your leadoff hitter
Speaker 1: and you have Aaron Judge second. So batting average, I've
Speaker 1: been on a kick that it needs to be valued
Speaker 1: a little bit more because I think on base percentage,
Speaker 1: I've been looking to get a stat that's like uncompetitive walks,
Speaker 1: you know, for the take guys in baseball, if you
Speaker 1: get thrown five balls in your first four pitches, you're
Speaker 1: going to walk if you only really chase or swing
Speaker 1: inside the zone. That I think on basement numbers can
Speaker 1: get inflated that when it's a moment that it matters
Speaker 1: when there's runners on first and second or second and
Speaker 1: third and you have to pitch to someone. I think
Speaker 1: batting matter, Batting average matters more there, and we haven't
Speaker 1: fully we haven't fully embraced that yet. I hate to
Speaker 1: do this to my guy, because you know, I consider
Speaker 1: his brother a friend, Aaron Hicks. We've got to watch
Speaker 1: a lot of him with the Yankees. His numbers also
Speaker 1: with runners on and I think the bases loaded were
Speaker 1: like scary bad, which again it was a small sample
Speaker 1: size and some bad luck there. He got Verlander in
Speaker 1: the playoffs. It's cool.
Speaker 2: Bases loaded thing was weird.
Speaker 1: But Aaron Hicks his his essentially his initial intent when
Speaker 1: he was hitting was trying to draw a walk, like
Speaker 1: that was kind of the first goal with Louisa Rise,
Speaker 1: He's trying to hit that. If I just think the
Speaker 1: concept's pretty basic. If it is second and third, you
Speaker 1: need to hit. I think someone like Aaron Hicks's on
Speaker 1: base percentage value goes down if Aaron Judge is on deck,
Speaker 1: they're going to pitch to you. So if they're not
Speaker 1: going to walk you, then your batting average becomes a
Speaker 1: lot more relevant. So I think Luisa Rise has value
Speaker 1: in that factor that every time that if it were
Speaker 1: the Yankees and they had to flip the lineup, it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: here comes Luisa Rise and Aaron Judge. I would be
Speaker 1: very interested to see how those at bats would look
Speaker 1: because the Rise doesn't walk a ton one hundred and
Speaker 1: ninety six career walks, which I think Sodo gets close
Speaker 1: to that in a season. One hundred and ninety four
Speaker 1: career strikeouts. So the man swings and hits a ball.
Speaker 2: It's that will lot great has come down each of
Speaker 2: the last four seasons. God twenty twenty one he walked
Speaker 2: nine percent of the time. Pretty good, pretty solid rate there.
Speaker 2: It's eight point three, five point seven and three point six.
Speaker 2: This year it's insane what he does. Six hundred to
Speaker 2: thirty seven at bats, twenty four walks, twenty nine strikeouts.
Speaker 1: Yo. So I'll be interesting to see what develops if
Speaker 1: he goes to the Yankees. Their lineup questions are somewhat done.
Speaker 1: It would be Luis Arise, Aaron Judge, and then you're
Speaker 1: probably going Belly, Stanton, Austin Wells, Paul Goldschmid Domigno's you.
Speaker 1: Obviously those can get shuffled a little bit, but the
Speaker 1: Yankees would have their lineup. Uh. It would just be interesting.
Speaker 1: The Yankees that seem to make this commitment to defense
Speaker 1: bring in Cody Bellinger glabor out, which we thought was
Speaker 1: part of the commitment. Jazz Chisholm everyone kind of assumed
Speaker 1: he was going to second base, which I guess. You know,
Speaker 1: the Yankee people are humming around the office that Arise
Speaker 1: has played some third base. Would they put Jazz at
Speaker 1: second and Arise at third? Is that punting third base?
Speaker 1: That doesn't seem to make sense that I don't know.
Speaker 1: It seems like you made this intention to go get
Speaker 1: better defensively and go and become a better team without
Speaker 1: Jan Soda. That's every Yankees fans. If I bump into
Speaker 1: someone on the subway that knows, that's kind of the
Speaker 1: going away line right now. It's like, I think the
Speaker 1: team's better, and yeah, it's the off season and we
Speaker 1: got to tell ourselves that with Wan Soto gone, and
Speaker 1: the Yankees have done some strategic and good additions, but
Speaker 1: it would just be weird for the Yankees to come
Speaker 1: into next year. Man that infield Goldschmidt sure into it
Speaker 1: is thirty seven. If it is a rise, then it's
Speaker 1: a rise. Vulpi Jazz Chisholm and I don't know. I've
Speaker 1: I've I like Jazz Chishlm at third. I was impressed
Speaker 1: by what he showed and I thought he could stick
Speaker 1: over there. It's obviously gonna be on him to put
Speaker 1: in the work or see what level of third basemen
Speaker 1: he can turn into. But it's it's still gonna be
Speaker 1: a first full season, Like I don't know, where can
Speaker 1: you really set the bar? And then a rise at
Speaker 1: second base. I don't know. The numbers don't like it.
Speaker 1: Everyone that seems to have watched him doesn't like it.
Speaker 1: That I get it for the lineup, and hey, if
Speaker 1: the defense is great everywhere else that can work. But
Speaker 1: it just seems it just seems like it's a double
Speaker 1: Like Yankee fans kind of convince themselves they were gonna
Speaker 1: get a third baseman. Jack Curry, who covers the Yankees
Speaker 1: and is very tuned in, made it seem like they
Speaker 1: want Jazz at third. The Yankees are also running out
Speaker 1: of money that I don't know. I guess the office
Speaker 1: has a little juice today about Luisa Rise. I'm a
Speaker 1: little skeptical.
Speaker 2: It's hard to imagine the Yankees with the offseason they've
Speaker 2: had and all the tone shifts, and it seems like
Speaker 2: with the money freeing up and all that pivoting to like,
Speaker 2: all right, we're not sacrificing infield defense like labor there
Speaker 2: isn't a one year offer available to you to then
Speaker 2: turn around and get a rise. I know, a little
Speaker 2: more contact and left handed, and they are different players,
Speaker 2: but I am skeptical of them being serious about bringing
Speaker 2: a move like that to the finish line without it
Speaker 2: being like a good value play, like the caveat of Like, look,
Speaker 2: if the Padres are training because they want to be
Speaker 2: rid of some twenty twenty five salary and get whatever
Speaker 2: that return is, then like, yeah, him for freeze interesting
Speaker 2: essentially for freeze interesting, But.
Speaker 1: There's there's not a lot of guys that can hit well.
Speaker 1: There's nobody that hits like this production wise, depending how
Speaker 1: you measure production, there's not a lot of guys that
Speaker 1: can provide would he provide? So uh yeah, the salary
Speaker 1: dump side of it, which basically you're alluding to, there's
Speaker 1: some merit to it, but it's just such a mental hurdle.
Speaker 1: And I know this sport has come a long way
Speaker 1: from batting average, but it's also a really good batting
Speaker 1: average and there's years where the on basse and ops
Speaker 1: are there, and ultimately, like this, it's one year, this
Speaker 1: salary dump for a team. That's where the Padres are
Speaker 1: at or I think they'd prefer to move off some
Speaker 1: amount of money. I would assume that preference is more
Speaker 1: about long term money if they were to do a
Speaker 1: move that salary dumpy. They're competitive like this guy's I
Speaker 1: always love I never actually use it. Baseball Reference has
Speaker 1: similarity scores for players at the bottom of their web page.
Speaker 1: Like some of the names that pop up, like Wade Box,
Speaker 1: it's a Hall of Famer. Would we view him through
Speaker 1: different ones? I mean, the factor rice can't play defense hurts.
Speaker 1: This one's just a blind spot for me. So he'll
Speaker 1: be today's player of the day. Bill Madlock, you heard
Speaker 1: of him? Name that I know. I've heard.
Speaker 2: Three time All Star, four time batting title, All Star Game, MVP,
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy nine World Series, good for good for Bill,
Speaker 2: A lot of.
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh, a lot of Cubs, Giants for three, Dodgers for three. Wow.
Speaker 1: Didn't taste the NL till the AL till the end.
Speaker 1: Bases go go celebrate Bill Madlock. I didn't. I didn't
Speaker 1: know he got down like this. Uh nicknamed the mad
Speaker 1: Dog obviously mad Dog madlock Man. That's natural. This ties
Speaker 1: into the Padres conundrum that I still have zero answers
Speaker 1: for I don't know what they're gonna do. If they're
Speaker 1: dumping Luis Raise, what what are the Padres doing? And
Speaker 1: what are they bringing back? Are they Are they in
Speaker 1: on Hasong Kim to bring back? Are they in on
Speaker 1: Jerks and Profar to bring back? They have massive contracts
Speaker 1: with Bogart's, Machado and Tatis. Croninworth went from being a
Speaker 1: salary dump to a tradable salary to a kind of
Speaker 1: not tradable salary. Yeah, it's a his contract is bizarre
Speaker 1: that they've been silent this offseason and I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know what they're gonna do. Uh. Cronenworth actually
Speaker 1: he's kind of dj in Man. Yeah, twelve mili a
Speaker 1: year for the next till twenty thirty. It's good defense
Speaker 1: at at least two spots. Yeah, I mean, I'd love
Speaker 1: to watch nerds like debate who's a better baseball player.
Speaker 1: Croninworth arias a guy that can play a lot of positions. Well,
Speaker 1: Hassan Kim, who's a free agent. Technically he grades out
Speaker 1: better than a rise at least last year, probably last two.
Speaker 1: So I'd three very different prototypes of players baseball it's
Speaker 1: the beauty of it. I'm interested to see what happens.
Speaker 1: I would be excited and understand the Yankees thought process
Speaker 1: if it happens. I don't see that happening, whether it's
Speaker 1: financial or fit or other, or just believing that the Yankees,
Speaker 1: I guess the concept even for being a young doing
Speaker 1: young man things. Shannon Sharp for doing young man things
Speaker 1: with baseball statistics, A three time batting champ consecutive. It's
Speaker 1: just been rolling that if you could have that person
Speaker 1: for free, even with some of the quote unquote shortcomings,
Speaker 1: I don't know three over the past three years, three
Speaker 1: twenty eight, three seventy one, A seven ninety seven ops.
Speaker 1: If the Yankees can put that guy in from of
Speaker 1: Aaron Judge, you have to start to a really fun lineup.
Speaker 1: You have a fun way to start every game. I
Speaker 1: know that's not what it's all about. I don't buy
Speaker 1: it yet, I'm open to it. Let's see padres no
Speaker 1: idea what you're doing. Currently, the bottom of their lineup
Speaker 1: is listed terso Ornillis Campusano, my Guy, and then Aggy Rosario,
Speaker 1: with a bench currently listed as Mike Brosso, Wow, Tyler Wade,
Speaker 1: and Brandon Lockridge, So I don't know. I know the
Speaker 1: past couple of years we've had some questions about the
Speaker 1: Padres depth and they've kind of done work late and
Speaker 1: it seems like they might be doing that again. But
Speaker 1: it's just a question of what is that franchise doing.
Speaker 1: Are they making money? Does their ownership want to buy
Speaker 1: more players that we'll see and maybe America's GM Jim
Speaker 1: Bowden has some insight for us.
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Speaker 1: The Crown is yours go always check him out at
Speaker 1: the Athletic. His article predicting where the top fifteen MLB
Speaker 1: free agents will sign and what a segue as I
Speaker 1: go from a potential Yankees Padres trade and BBD was
Speaker 1: going to decent laugh out of this. Roki Sasaki is
Speaker 1: the number one free agent listed, oh for some obvious reasons.
Speaker 1: He's twenty three years old. The age really helps him there.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get him essentially for free some signing pool money,
Speaker 1: and he has of the pictures coming over from Japan.
Speaker 1: This was kind of supposed to be the guy, like
Speaker 1: sure Yah Yamamoto was supposed to be a guy him
Speaker 1: and Aga kind of wasn't Sanga kind of wasn't Sasaki
Speaker 1: is the guy that we've heard for a while, because
Speaker 1: he kind of has the look like he is a
Speaker 1: tall guy, long throws hard, pumps gas like, no excuses,
Speaker 1: Yoshinobu yam modo. People were like, I don't know, he's
Speaker 1: a little guy. Is he gonna is his body gonna
Speaker 1: fall apart? Is he gonna completely translate? Just a reminder,
Speaker 1: go check out his stats. It translated. He did get
Speaker 1: three hundred million, so I guess people thought he was
Speaker 1: gonna be pretty damn good. But Roki Sasaki a little younger,
Speaker 1: and I think a little more upside. Uh. This was
Speaker 1: the only player that Jim Bowden had a hedge on
Speaker 1: his prediction. He had the Yankees or the Padres, which
Speaker 1: those teams have been linked the Padres. Uh. I do
Speaker 1: believe that you Darvish is like his pitching idol. The
Speaker 1: West Coast factor for a lot of these Japanese players helps,
Speaker 1: And there was a rumor for a little bit that
Speaker 1: he's hope he kind of wants to be a smaller
Speaker 1: market guy. But again, I don't know who knows where
Speaker 1: you're getting some of these things at some point. But
Speaker 1: on the other side of that, the Yankees doesn't help
Speaker 1: my argument, Uh, the only reason I could see Roki
Speaker 1: Sasaki picking the Yankees because he essentially does get to
Speaker 1: hand pick his team between the Dodgers, Padres, Cubs, Yankees, Mets, Rangers,
Speaker 1: and Giants are are kind of the final possibilities there.
Speaker 1: The only reason Sasaki would pick the Yankees is if
Speaker 1: he if he wants the smoke second smoke reference. Whose
Speaker 1: podcast was that is that? That's Stephen Jackson, who is
Speaker 1: all of the smokes, all the Smoke, all the Smoke pod.
Speaker 1: Add Yeah, Stephen Jackson and Matt Barnes. I see the clips.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't tune in. Because man, if Roki
Speaker 1: came to the Yankees, he would be their first see
Speaker 1: their first Japanese player since Tanaka yah was after Corota, right,
Speaker 1: so yeah, yes, and I mean Tanaka initially came over
Speaker 1: and what fifteen.
Speaker 2: I believe the twenty either fourteen or fifteen.
Speaker 1: Fourteen, So he would be the first newly introduced at
Speaker 1: least like star high level Japanese Yankee pitcher since Tanaka,
Speaker 1: who got introduced over a decade ago. I know he
Speaker 1: pitched into twenty twenty. But with everything that's going on
Speaker 1: with the Dodgers, they have show Hey, they have got
Speaker 1: moto they have they just signed your guy, Hey Sung Kim.
Speaker 1: Think I'm saying that right from South Korea. Uh, And
Speaker 1: they just signed whoever they want. Reminder, they signed Blake Snell,
Speaker 1: they signed Confordo as a bonus piece. Show Hey is
Speaker 1: going to pitch this year. Dodger's doing well. Reminder, Roki
Speaker 1: Sasaki would want to want all of it. He'd want
Speaker 1: to want New York City. He'd want to be the guy.
Speaker 1: He'd want to get the ring. I'm sure he wants
Speaker 1: all of that wherever he goes. But obviously New York
Speaker 1: and the Yankees and the Pinstripes they still hit a
Speaker 1: little different. I know we haven't been getting our rings recently.
Speaker 1: That the value prop with the Dodgers is very different.
Speaker 1: I mean, he doesn't have to come in and be
Speaker 1: the guy. I mean he would be like their fifth starter,
Speaker 1: which is nuts for the Padres. He'd be a guy.
Speaker 1: But they have other reliable starting pitchers for them, so
Speaker 1: do the Yankees. But I do think there's something you
Speaker 1: Darvish has been on the Padres for a couple of years.
Speaker 1: Otani and Yamamoto for him to choose the Yankees. It
Speaker 1: would be a surprise and it would change the Yankees
Speaker 1: whole off season. Oh my god, like there was a
Speaker 1: day with daydream Carlos rode on trades. Would that be
Speaker 1: on the table? Maybe you just got a free starting pitcher.
Speaker 1: Not gonna believe anything until I see it. It would
Speaker 1: be a huge win for any of the other teams
Speaker 1: who aren't the Dodgers, padres neat Cubs would kind of
Speaker 1: be a game changer for them. Mets, Sure, the burgeoning Mets.
Speaker 1: The Rangers absolutely, I already think they are on the upslope,
Speaker 1: but that would be huge. And the Giants who are
Speaker 1: trying to fend off the Dodgers and that whole division constantly.
Speaker 1: I am still kind of thinking it's Dodgers, which is
Speaker 1: nuts because again, him being so cost controlled just allows
Speaker 1: them to do whatever. I don't know, I mean, that's
Speaker 1: the one that I feel the least ability to comment on.
Speaker 1: When are we gonna find out is January fifteenth the
Speaker 1: real thing?
Speaker 2: Or is that January fifteenth is when he's allowed to
Speaker 2: literally sign again because his forty five day posting window
Speaker 2: had like the thirty day not allowed to sign window.
Speaker 1: In the middle of it.
Speaker 2: Sure, so they started a little earlier than everyone thought.
Speaker 2: People thought they'd wait till fifteenth, till the fifteenth for
Speaker 2: him to even do the posting. So I believe his
Speaker 2: deadline is January twenty third, off the top of my head,
Speaker 2: so he has like a week after that to make
Speaker 2: the final choice.
Speaker 1: So by the end of January, we think we know
Speaker 1: where Rokie's going to be. Three weeks from today, we will,
Speaker 1: we will for sure know. Okay, it's exciting. I haven't
Speaker 1: really gotten there yet because his fregency isn't normal. He
Speaker 1: gets to choose where he goes and it doesn't really
Speaker 1: affect your team's money for these other guys. Number two
Speaker 1: is listed as Alex Bregman. He opens up the article
Speaker 1: saying he was surprised that Bregman turned down that six
Speaker 1: for one fifty six, which is a bad sign. He
Speaker 1: mentions the Mets that was originally the day dream Bregman team,
Speaker 1: like he was going to change their identity. They went
Speaker 1: a little bigger than that. I don't think you can
Speaker 1: rule them out because that moves Mark Viento's to first base.
Speaker 1: There's options there. The Blue Jays have to do something.
Speaker 1: I don't think Alex Bregman is a fit. Their move
Speaker 1: has to be switch hit or lefty. We'll get to
Speaker 1: Santander and everyone's in on the Tigers, which I just
Speaker 1: haven't figured out yet. Maybe if it's a creative contract
Speaker 1: that has the Bellinger opt outs or something like that,
Speaker 1: but they're still paying hobby By is so much money,
Speaker 1: they have so many young infielders. I don't see it.
Speaker 1: Everyone else does, so I'll leave it out there.
Speaker 2: For some reason, like when they when the Tigers went
Speaker 2: to do the glabor thing, I thought that was gonna
Speaker 2: be okay. So Bragman is off the table, and it's
Speaker 2: only the chatteran it's only increased since then.
Speaker 1: People. Some people think it's opened up the table, and
Speaker 1: maybe it has, and maybe we'll see in a little bit.
Speaker 1: Me in America's GM have the same favorite landing spot
Speaker 1: for Alex Bregman, and it is the Boston Red Sox.
Speaker 1: And you bring up the Red Sox lineup, it still
Speaker 1: looks somewhat comical how lefty they are. The Fangraph's Red
Speaker 1: Sox lineup starts with five of their six hitters being lefties.
Speaker 1: Duran Devers Cassus Trevor's story, You're alrighty breaking that up,
Speaker 1: Yoshida while you're a bray, you Connor wrong, Hamilton Rafaela,
Speaker 1: A couple of righties on the bench. Rob Reff, you
Speaker 1: know he's in their verse left he's any mashes okay.
Speaker 1: But if I'm the boss in Red Sox, a right
Speaker 1: handed hitter is the answer somewhere in this lineup, somewhere
Speaker 1: in the top of this lineup. And I think Bregman
Speaker 1: would be perfect. I mean, if you could, if you
Speaker 1: could go Duran Bregman Devers, or if you'd prefer to
Speaker 1: go Duran Devers Bregman and then Tristan Cassas, and then
Speaker 1: you can use your story to to break up the
Speaker 1: lefties a little bit and dream on his comeback, hopeful
Speaker 1: comeback season. Bragman swing plays at Fenway. They're looking for
Speaker 1: the next move to put them over the top. Their
Speaker 1: rotation looks really good, their bullpen looks really solid. Lineup
Speaker 1: looks good. It just not balanced that Alex Bregman. You
Speaker 1: moved Evers to first base, Just remove that band aid.
Speaker 1: You have him signed for a long time, have him
Speaker 1: become a high quality first baseman, and then your infield
Speaker 1: defense improves your lineup improves, you're ready to compete for
Speaker 1: the division if they sign Alex Bregman. So that's been
Speaker 1: the team that's jumped out for a while. I wonder
Speaker 1: if the Red Sox are being quiet about it. I
Speaker 1: wonder if Bregman's market isn't going so hot. And I've
Speaker 1: wondered that about the next guy a little bit because
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to Pete Alonzo, who he does have
Speaker 1: at four? And did all the first basemen get figured out?
Speaker 1: I don't think so. There's still teams out there, Mariners,
Speaker 1: but we haven't heard anything from them. The rumor this
Speaker 1: weekend was the Halos. I don't know. I guess you
Speaker 1: can never rule him out right. That's that's the beauty
Speaker 1: of them. You could do anything anytime. We got you
Speaker 1: this Mike Trout ready to win some ballgames. The Mets
Speaker 1: are still there, and I guess that's where things get
Speaker 1: a little tricky too, because I talked about them in
Speaker 1: the Bregman game. Would they rather have Bregman than Alonso?
Speaker 1: Is that a better fit for the team. It's an
Speaker 1: interesting debate. Better defense at the hot corner, a reliable
Speaker 1: stick where Alonzo's bat has more upside, but probably not that.
Speaker 1: On the defensive side, I think you'd want Bregman in
Speaker 1: a vacuum. That's gonna be interesting. Man. People were looking
Speaker 1: at my Diamondbacks as potential dark horses for Pete. I
Speaker 1: have to admit, And if you've been listening to this show,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm a little surprised that there hasn't been
Speaker 1: a bigger market for Alonso. When you're putting together your
Speaker 1: whiteboard of your team or your offensive goals for the years,
Speaker 1: Like I remember the first time the Rays, the Rays
Speaker 1: measured the season in innings instead of like five starting pitchers.
Speaker 1: The Rays were like, yeah, we need to get through
Speaker 1: this many innings and everyone was like, whoa, okay. Rays Like,
Speaker 1: if I'm a baseball team and I'm looking at you know,
Speaker 1: I need two hundred and fifty home runs to be
Speaker 1: a good power hitting team, and I can get forty
Speaker 1: from one guy. I just thought there'd be more appeal there.
Speaker 1: So maybe misread that, and maybe it seems like Pete's
Speaker 1: not gonna age well, and I know he has some
Speaker 1: declining numbers. I still think a team is gonna step
Speaker 1: up to the table that I don't think he's gonna
Speaker 1: have to do a creative contract. But I've my sniff
Speaker 1: test has been wrong on Alonzo so far. We'll see.
Speaker 1: I mentioned Anthony Santander. It's so funny that he's not
Speaker 1: getting a ton of buzz as a free agent. Blue
Speaker 1: Jays have been my team from the start, stays in
Speaker 1: the division. You break up Bow and Vladdie, you've kind
Speaker 1: of created a top of the lineup. Now, if one
Speaker 1: or two of your young guys click, you have a
Speaker 1: lineup the Blue Jays offense team that has to go
Speaker 1: an extra year to get the free agent they want.
Speaker 1: Santander is that kind of free agent. Between his age
Speaker 1: and people worried about his defense, that extra year probably
Speaker 1: gets the deal done. Toronto can do that. They've done
Speaker 1: that with Springer, They've done that with Ryu. I've loved Santander.
Speaker 1: Santander are there from the start. I've always thought Houston
Speaker 1: is a dark horse team. I haven't always thought that
Speaker 1: recently after the Kyle Tucker trade, seems like they have
Speaker 1: a spot for Santander that can make their lineup very scary.
Speaker 1: And the other teams that you're gonna hear rumored on
Speaker 1: everyone Halos those TV dough he Hunt days. I don't know,
Speaker 1: what are those teams about Giants? You shouldn't be lumped
Speaker 1: with them. I'm sorry, I take it back. Looking for
Speaker 1: a picture. How about our friend Jack Flaherty. Jack Flaherty
Speaker 1: still a free agent. The year end numbers last year
Speaker 1: Man three one seventy R one hundred and ninety four
Speaker 1: punchies uh listed as the best starting pitcher outside of Sasaki,
Speaker 1: And we talked about the tricks of that, and yeah,
Speaker 1: we He mentions Flerty's medical reports. We heard we heard
Speaker 1: a rumor during trade season that a couple teams were
Speaker 1: out on Flarity because of his medicals. So you wonder
Speaker 1: what that looks like, or if you'll have to go
Speaker 1: for a weird opt out type deal, which I could
Speaker 1: see him being open to. If you do that right,
Speaker 1: you could still make your money with enough security. Although
Speaker 1: in a way he should feel like he's deserved this.
Speaker 1: He was one of the best young pitchers. He kind
Speaker 1: of worked his way back after going through the struggles.
Speaker 1: Teams linked Cubs, Giants, Blue Jays, Giants Blue Jays just
Speaker 1: ended with that. The team that I haven't had connected
Speaker 1: and if they are, Jack, I would answer the phone
Speaker 1: is the Atlanta Braves. He talks about Spencer Strider, who's
Speaker 1: going to be recover and not ready for opening Day.
Speaker 1: They lost Charlie Morton. Charlie Morton to your Baltimore Orioles.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know Orioles. I'm not rooting
Speaker 1: against the Oriols. I want that out there, even if
Speaker 1: my deepest, darkest Yankee days. But they're starting to have
Speaker 1: one of those free agencies that the team better do
Speaker 1: something or you're gonna be pissed. Charlie Morton, Sigano, Gary Sanchez,
Speaker 1: Tyler O'Neal. If you're an Orioles fan, would you rather
Speaker 1: just have one player that you look at and you're like, Wow,
Speaker 1: we got him. I don't know. Charlie Morton has thrown
Speaker 1: the innings, he continues to pitch. And the other thing
Speaker 1: I've stumbled into is maybe just the Orioles are their
Speaker 1: front office is respected, going back to some of the
Speaker 1: Houston days that like, I think depth is starting to
Speaker 1: get value to again. The Texas Rangers had a hurt
Speaker 1: rotation outside of their rotation when they won the World Series.
Speaker 1: The Dodgers had a fully injured rotation outside of their
Speaker 1: rotation when they won the World series that maybe the
Speaker 1: Orioles getting Sigano and Morton are just like, hey, someone's
Speaker 1: gonna get hurt. I'd rather have more arms at fifteen
Speaker 1: million than have one thirty million arm. I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's right, but I think that's what they're doing. Jack.
Speaker 1: If the Braves are calling, I like that a lot.
Speaker 1: I don't know what those dirty little braids are up to,
Speaker 1: although I did hear a rumor about number six listed
Speaker 1: free agent and those Atlanta Braves. Tanner Scott, I'll say
Speaker 1: this for the wake in j community, because you guys
Speaker 1: are my people and I appreciate you, and you're subscribing
Speaker 1: because right now I'm about to give you some inside info.
Speaker 1: I did have some birdies tell me Tanner Scott to
Speaker 1: the Braves, H, We'll see this was a little while back.
Speaker 1: I have gotten info from said birdie's before, so I'm
Speaker 1: interested on it. And you could see that being the
Speaker 1: Braves direction, like that's a very high end team move.
Speaker 1: Adding to your bullpen, riis a Iglesias. And you know
Speaker 1: there was a while when I feel like the Braves
Speaker 1: had a bullpen. You looked at and were like, whoa,
Speaker 1: look at They're going eight deep. They have guys like
Speaker 1: Pierce Johnson has had it some nice seasons, Aaron Bummer
Speaker 1: has had some nice seasons. Dylan Lee had a great
Speaker 1: season last year. I guess it's not the names that
Speaker 1: necessarily drive the fear into you, Like it was with
Speaker 1: a couple of the past Braves teams that I could
Speaker 1: see them adding a significant guy back there. And maybe
Speaker 1: that's the Tanner Scott landing area. And Tanner Scott's name
Speaker 1: sounds like a brave is he from that area? Tanner
Speaker 1: Scott no Texas, Texas forever. My friend went to Notre
Speaker 1: Dame born in Ohio, Tanner went to college in Texas,
Speaker 1: transferred to Notre Dame. Feel like we need the whole story.
Speaker 1: People call him Scottie makes sense baseball. When I first
Speaker 1: heard that rumor, I was like, Okay, this checks out.
Speaker 1: America's gym has them going to the Red Sox, and
Speaker 1: if they do that, I'll be a little set other
Speaker 1: teams in the market for relief pitching. Again. I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna stop saying Blue Jays and Giants they're just looking
Speaker 1: to give people money. Dodgers, Rangers and Diamondbacks. Yeah, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I believe in my Birdie. I'm going Tanner Scott Braves.
Speaker 2: Tanner Scott went to Notre Dame College. Different from the
Speaker 2: university that's not Notre Dame. When I clicked on, I
Speaker 2: clicked on the Wikipedia says it not to be confused
Speaker 2: with the University of Notre Dame.
Speaker 1: Notre Dames in Indiana, Notre Dame College in Ohio. What
Speaker 1: is this? Why would you even do that? Did he
Speaker 1: get tricked Tanner Scott? The mystery continued.
Speaker 2: Division two team they're so well their mascot is the Fearless.
Speaker 1: No, they're out, don't no? Jerrickson profar speaking of Fearless
Speaker 1: one of the weirder free agencies that could happen. A
Speaker 1: former top prospect who kind of found a major league
Speaker 1: role and he was a solid contributing player, had one
Speaker 1: of the best seasons in outfielder could have last year
Speaker 1: at age thirty. So what do you do with that?
Speaker 1: Padres seems to be where he's had his most success,
Speaker 1: including last year. That everyone's assuming that. I just don't know.
Speaker 1: He mentions the Red Sox switch hitter. Sure, I mentioned
Speaker 1: they need a little more balance put him in left fields.
Speaker 1: He hasn't grayed out great so you could hide Jerks
Speaker 1: and Profar. But if we're if you're the Red Sox,
Speaker 1: it seems like there could be safer ways to spend
Speaker 1: your money. It's a San Diego reunion till it's not.
Speaker 1: Watch him be the Pirates big yet? I did that
Speaker 1: be it? Jim Bowden doesn't have that, but I do.
Speaker 1: I'm America's assistant GM. He also says the Braves would
Speaker 1: be a good fit. They have Kellnick and Brian de
Speaker 1: la Cruz right now listed in an outfield spot.
Speaker 2: Add a third guy to that mix and bank on one.
Speaker 1: But what are we paying to be a guy in
Speaker 1: the Kellnick de la Cruz mix. I don't know. It's
Speaker 1: San Diego and now I've day dreamt the Pirates. That's
Speaker 1: not that's not Jim Bowden's words. Do not tweet at
Speaker 1: him and say pirates and Profar. Actually you can. He'd
Speaker 1: love it. He just likes to chop it up. I
Speaker 1: might tweet that at him. Oh should I start using
Speaker 1: Twitter the old fashioned way? Just just opinion? Tagg again, Hey,
Speaker 1: what do you think about profar to the Pirates and
Speaker 1: tag Jim Bowden. I'm gonna do that now. This one's
Speaker 1: just for me. What do you think about profar to
Speaker 1: the pirates And that's Jim Bowden. That's good alliteration there.
Speaker 1: And that's just a tweet. That's how Twitter used to
Speaker 1: work people. That tweet shouldn't get any engagement. Let's get
Speaker 1: through the rest of this. Kirby Yates again, go check
Speaker 1: out how good his season last year was three point
Speaker 1: three war from a reliever. That's really hard to do.
Speaker 1: I know my Diamondbacks really want him. They want him
Speaker 1: to replace Paul Seawald and have Martinez be their their
Speaker 1: swing manh Yeah, it's a funky list. I'm seeing the
Speaker 1: Reds Rangers. Obviously Toronto's listed. I guess hidden secret of
Speaker 1: both starting in relief pitching. Everyone could use another one, right,
Speaker 1: just stay in Texas, right.
Speaker 2: They You would think they need him pretty bad and
Speaker 2: it just.
Speaker 1: Worked for him. Things worked out. I do know my
Speaker 1: Snakes want him. Somebody's gonna sign him and be happy
Speaker 1: they did. I think the other before we start churning
Speaker 1: through because there's a there's a handful of pitchers coming up.
Speaker 1: Haw Song Kim one of the weird mystery free agents
Speaker 1: because of his shoulder surgery, which has to have teams
Speaker 1: a little freaked out. The guy had a five point
Speaker 1: eight war season in twenty twenty three. Going back to
Speaker 1: all the Arise conversations before, Obviously, offensively, the goal is
Speaker 1: for him to land around league average and then everything
Speaker 1: else is a plus. Apparently the Giants were in on
Speaker 1: him until they got Willia Damas. America's jam throws out
Speaker 1: the Red Sox, which it's interesting with Trevor story and
Speaker 1: a couple of their prospects that are supposed to be
Speaker 1: on the way our middle infieldish that I don't know about.
Speaker 1: That he ends up landing on Padres, which again just
Speaker 1: brings us into this whole Padres What's going on? Are
Speaker 1: they keeping a rise? Do they have money to sign players?
Speaker 1: Are they trying to compete? Are they trading Dylan Ceese
Speaker 1: the Padres have They're going in every direction at the
Speaker 1: same time, And that's kind of Preller's mo o a
Speaker 1: little bit. But none of it makes sense to me.
Speaker 2: None of it makes sense for them, None of it
Speaker 2: makes sense for Hassan Kim. Every team that's had like
Speaker 2: legit rumors or buzz around like a pursuit of him
Speaker 2: has like already gone in a different direction. I think
Speaker 2: like Dodgers. They just signed the other Kim and britained
Speaker 2: ta Oscar Tigers went and got glab Or Giants got
Speaker 2: a Damis. Jays did that, Andres and Menez trade that
Speaker 2: nobody really likes for any party there. I just basically
Speaker 2: nobody knows where Hassan Kim is going because his value
Speaker 2: is in a very weird spot, especially with the injury.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I hope it doesn't end up in a
Speaker 1: bad spot for him, and maybe for him unfortunately he
Speaker 1: might have to do like a one year thing because
Speaker 1: people are freaked out by the shoulder. Like.
Speaker 2: Wonder what he's asking for, Except if I were him,
Speaker 2: I would assume he wants an opportunity to re up
Speaker 2: if he wanted to. This year will be his age
Speaker 2: twenty nine years, so there is kind of time to
Speaker 2: do that. I wonder with the shoulder injury or team's
Speaker 2: nervous that for twenty twenty five, is he second base only?
Speaker 1: I have no idea.
Speaker 2: Well, with that injury to his throwing arm, I would
Speaker 2: give Terur a more.
Speaker 1: Short term October thirteenth surgery yesterday with doctor Neil Ella
Speaker 1: trash Ooh yeah, I don't know. I think has on
Speaker 1: Kim is looking to get paid like a good starting shortstop,
Speaker 1: and I'm guessing teams aren't so. Again, the Padres part
Speaker 1: of this offseason. I still have no clue how they're
Speaker 1: going to connect their dots and if he's a part
Speaker 1: of it. Praise were connected for a while and it
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like there's anything there. So interested to see
Speaker 1: where hasun Kim goes a guy that should fit on
Speaker 1: any team, whether you need a short stop or not.
Speaker 1: Getting through the rest of the list, we have some pictures.
Speaker 1: Carlos Estevez forgot about the big Man. Nice year last year,
Speaker 1: big Boy twenty six saves. They have the Cubs again,
Speaker 1: you know, the Giants and Blue Jays get listed along
Speaker 1: with the Rangers. Every team can use pitching. They have Cubs.
Speaker 1: I'd like that Cubs give me another move, get me
Speaker 1: excited about you another reliever? Or is he not Jeff
Speaker 1: Hoffman following in the footsteps of Clay Holmes. So wow,
Speaker 1: he has a deal to build off of. Hmm, right,
Speaker 1: he was kind of better than Clay Holmes. Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: trying to do the same thing here, transition to a starter.
Speaker 1: He is the Nationals doing that. It's kind of a fun,
Speaker 1: high reward, low risk, medium risk move team that could
Speaker 1: try that a thirty two year old reliever to try
Speaker 1: to be a starter and if it works, it works.
Speaker 1: I'm interested in that. Yet I'm now realizing, excuse me,
Speaker 1: all the pictures are borderline awful conversations because it's every team.
Speaker 1: A team I haven't mentioned is the Royals for Jose Kintana.
Speaker 1: So if you're into that, really really check in on yourself,
Speaker 1: because that's that's the stuff. Dugo and Justin Turner around
Speaker 1: out the list, which that kind of goes to show
Speaker 1: you things start getting thin quick. I see Pirates listed
Speaker 1: for Dugo. That checks out, and Justin Turner one and
Speaker 1: a half war last year, age forty. He's got the
Speaker 1: Mariners making their move. It's a guy who hit for
Speaker 1: them last year. My goodness. The photo of Rokie Sasaki
Speaker 1: in the article is from the yomi Uri shimbum It's
Speaker 1: listed in the article. I don't know, so let's see
Speaker 1: where free agency takes us. The Sasaki thing is gonna
Speaker 1: be wild when that happens. We're Sasaki Week's almost tier.
Speaker 1: You're that team is getting a significant player changes their
Speaker 1: team's outlook for the next few years. Wonder if Santander,
Speaker 1: Alonz or Bregman, who's gonna drop first. I'd think Santander
Speaker 1: because he still has a few teams that fit switch hit,
Speaker 1: there's almost no The question is the defense, but also
Speaker 1: it's corner outfield, and if you can find him a
Speaker 1: couple of DH days, you're gonna be all right that.
Speaker 1: I think Santander happens. Blue Jays would be funny. I'd
Speaker 1: have some older seats on that. Let's see what else
Speaker 1: is out there. We are entering the quiet times of
Speaker 1: the baseball offseason, so watch out be scared. Oh god,
Speaker 1: I was just gonna read a guy's username who just
Speaker 1: tweeted at me, but is inappropriate, so I'm not going
Speaker 1: to read that. I will tell you again. Football this
Speaker 1: weekend was a weird one. There's like one and a
Speaker 1: half games that mattered. It all ended late last night.
Speaker 1: Late last night, Lions Vikings Lions Vikings in Detroit Place
Speaker 1: was going nuts. Tony Dungee said he never heard a
Speaker 1: louder environment. I don't know if that was true either way.
Speaker 1: It was raucus ugly football. At first divisional teams they
Speaker 1: know each other well. Winner gets the one seed. And
Speaker 1: a bye loser has to go to La and play
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford in the Rams. Pretty insane that it came
Speaker 1: down to that, but Lions end up rolling late the
Speaker 1: Vikings in the red zone offense. I don't know if
Speaker 1: I've ever seen something like that on a football field.
Speaker 1: Donald and the lads just couldn't find anything in the
Speaker 1: red zone. It was discussing. There was one ball that
Speaker 1: hit Jefferson's hands that probably could have been a touchdown
Speaker 1: and that would have changed things early. There's also another
Speaker 1: one where Addison looked like he was opening the flat instantly.
Speaker 1: Donald just didn't see him. Tough, Sam Donald game also
Speaker 1: tough that this was coming after Kevin O'Connell, tall, handsome
Speaker 1: head coach, that we were on first here awaken Jake.
Speaker 1: There's potential trade rumors with him, that he might be
Speaker 1: valuable enough to be traded in the last year of
Speaker 1: his contract. Now the Vikings are heading on the road
Speaker 1: to the Rams for their playoff game. We'll do a
Speaker 1: bunch of football on Wednesday. Maybe we'll get panic Chris Rose.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if we'll have time, but yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a weird football sounding Carson wentz nope. Josh Dobbs,
Speaker 1: all right, that was a lot. I'm late for a
Speaker 1: meeting after to use the bathroom pretty badly. I appreciate
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