1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: The most valuable commodity I know of this information. 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 2: Wouldn't you agree? You agree? 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 3: I got five dollars. 4 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 2: This is a ratal happy travel kit one man play. 5 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 3: You're saying that humans need fantasy to make life bearable. 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 3: Humans need fantasy to be human. My goodness, that misco 7 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 3: yous prose best relentless refusing to give up? 8 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: All right, hit that horn very bless there. 9 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 2: What's up everybody? Welcome to the Fantasy Flex Podcast. I'm 10 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 2: your host, Chris Raybond of the Action Network, and this 11 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: is our Rookie Quarterback Fantasy preview episode for twenty twenty three. 12 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 2: We're gonna draft our top eight rookie qbs by ADP 13 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 2: value for this year, and that's essentially drafting the top 14 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 2: eight rookie quarterback and to do it with me is 15 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: one of the top fantasy rankers in the game. The 16 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: odds maker Sean Kerner, Sean, what is going on? 17 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 3: How was your Hall of Fame game? 18 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 4: Hall of Fame game was great? I actually hit my 19 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 4: first bet the Jets first half, but then regredably endgame. 20 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 4: I took the over thirty seven and a half and 21 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 4: it just missed by half point. That late non pi 22 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 4: call was infuriating. I also thought that they would play 23 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 4: Streveler a little bit more. They played Tim Boyle for 24 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 4: like the entire second quarter, the entire third quarter, So 25 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 4: that was a bummer. That was my whole plan was 26 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 4: to fade him, and I ended up needing him to 27 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 4: do things which didn't turn out well. 28 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: How about you. 29 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just had one bet. It was the over, 30 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 2: and so I hit. But that's not usual thing for 31 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 2: me betting overs and in the preseason. But yeah, I 32 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 2: thought the Jets quarterbacks would actually do more. But it 33 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: turned out our boy Dorian Thompson Robinson kind of saved 34 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: us with a bunch of just baller ass plays. But 35 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 2: we'll talk about him probably on this pot because we're gonna, yeah, 36 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 2: we're gonna draft, so draft eight rookie quarterbacks and we'll 37 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 2: kind of do it the way we did for our 38 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 2: running back and receiver episodes which are out now. Would 39 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 2: go back and forth. So no snake draft. You want 40 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: to go first for this one, or you want to 41 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 2: go first for our tight end. 42 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: This one? 43 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 2: Okay, So number one quarterback, who's gonna beat their ADP. 44 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 2: I gotta go Bryce Young at QB twenty four. Here 45 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: because Anthony Richardson's the QB thirteen. We're using bestball ten 46 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 2: adp over the last two weeks. Anthony Richardson's the QB thirteen. 47 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: But there's just less there's just less way to go up, 48 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 2: and I think Young may actually start a couple extra 49 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 2: games over Richardson. 50 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 3: So I gotta go Young here. 51 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 2: I thought he was the best quarterback in terms of throwing, 52 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 2: the best passer in the draft. Obviously, so did the 53 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers. I don't love the receiving core, but they 54 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 2: have enough guys that I think they could cobble something 55 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 2: together with Dewan Mingo, the rookie Chark going d you 56 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,679 Speaker 2: still have Marshall who broke out somewhat last year, and 57 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 2: Chanault as well, so you have enough guys Hayden Hurst 58 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 2: at tight end to kind of get him through here. 59 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 2: I think the old line will be solid. So you know, 60 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 2: Young for me at QB twenty four. If he exceeds expectations, 61 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: I think efficiency wise, you know, he could break it 62 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 2: to the top twenty you know, maybe even into the 63 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 2: you know, mid teens. Whereas Richardson, I think you really 64 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 2: are looking at him probably to go to what QB 65 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: eight seven eight, Like, that's probably a ceiling. So I 66 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 2: think in terms of this draft, I'm gonna have to 67 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: go Young here. Even though I love the upside of 68 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 2: Richardson more than any other quarterback in this draft, I 69 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 2: think in terms of ADP value, young is gonna be 70 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 2: my choice. 71 00:03:58,000 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, I don't know why I let you go 72 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 4: first there. I would have taken Bryce Young. You know, 73 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 4: he's compared to Kyler Murray just based on his size, 74 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 4: but he doesn't rush as much as Kyler. Certainly he's gonna, 75 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 4: you know, scramble a bit, but he's he's more of 76 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 4: a pocket passer than people realizing he's. 77 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: He's really polished. 78 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 4: I think he's gonna be really good as a rookie 79 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 4: if Anything's gonna be sort of like in between a 80 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 4: Kyler Murray and a Russell Wilson type, where you know, 81 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 4: he has rushing upside, but he has a strong arm, 82 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,679 Speaker 4: like he's a legit passer. So I would have taken 83 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 4: him here first. I let you get him. And this morning, 84 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 4: Anthony Richardson was QB fourteen, so I was going off 85 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 4: of that. QB thirteen is a little bit rich, but 86 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to go with Anthony Richardson for my 87 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 4: first pick, just because I think there is room to 88 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 4: grow a bit more and his ADP is going out 89 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 4: because it does look like he has the inside track 90 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 4: for the Week one job. 91 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: I think that's that's key. 92 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 4: If you're taking him at QB thirteen, he definitely has 93 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 4: to start without the first couple of games, and that's 94 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 4: it looks like that's what's gonna happen. And you know, 95 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 4: while he's definitely raw as a passer, you know, he 96 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 4: has some of the best rushing upside I've seen heading 97 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 4: into his rookie season, so he's probably just gonna lean 98 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 4: on that even more, kind of like Justin Fields did 99 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 4: last season. So I think we gotta treat Richardson kind 100 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 4: of like Jalen Hurts when he was first starting out, 101 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 4: like massive rushing upside. Maybe the passing numbers won't be there, 102 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 4: but in fantasy football that doesn't matter, so he has 103 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 4: a ton of upside. 104 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: I think once it's like. 105 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 4: Official, if it's becomes official that he's starting Week one, 106 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 4: I think his ADP might jump up to like QB eleven, 107 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 4: somewhere in that range. So I think it can only 108 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 4: go up but like you said, his ceiling probably is 109 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 4: maybe like QB seven or so. But either way, compared 110 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 4: to the other quarterbacks, he has a clear path to 111 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 4: getting there. So that's why he's gonna be my first pick. 112 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 2: How many rushing attempts per game you haven't projected for roughly, 113 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 2: just off the top of my head, I would say 114 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 2: like around eight or so. I mean, it could be more, 115 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 2: could be less, but I think eight is right about 116 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 2: where I'm thinking. What about you, Yeah, I think I'm 117 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 2: a little closer to nine, you know, just kind of 118 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 2: looking at a scramble rate in college, and you know, 119 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 2: I do think he'll get you know, five to six 120 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 2: design runs per game. That's kind of where Hurts and 121 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 2: Fields and those guys have kind of been early on 122 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 2: in their careers. So yeah, little over eight, closer to nine. 123 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 2: But yeah, I think that's really going to be a strength. 124 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 2: Because I've said this before, I think the likelihood, Like 125 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 2: I know, I think Hurt started a little better throwing 126 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 2: the ball as a rookie then a guy like justin Fields, 127 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: and I think Richardson will probably be closer to Fields 128 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 2: in terms of how the passing numbers look like. I 129 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 2: have his completion rate around fifty eight percent in year one. 130 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 2: You know, that's something that you know he struggled with 131 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 2: and he's probably going to go down the field, so 132 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 2: you are going to see I think, some inconsistency throwing 133 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 2: the ball, but that also gives you the. 134 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 3: Chance for some big plays. 135 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 2: Uh. So you know, lots of like with with Richardson, 136 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 2: especially if he starts week one, then I think he's. 137 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 3: A slam duncan. 138 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 2: He has a you know, I mean you would take 139 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,559 Speaker 2: Richardson over Daniel Jones. Would you say if he started 140 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 2: a week one or how would you have those two? 141 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're close. I would know Richardson and yeah, it 142 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 4: looks like I do have him around like nine point 143 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 4: one Russia temps per game. 144 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 3: Yep. 145 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's similar to Daniel Jones, but with a couple 146 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 4: more Russia temps per game. So I just like the upside, 147 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 4: and this is the range where you kind of want 148 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 4: to go for upside if you're in a one QB 149 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 4: league anyway, So yeah, I would definitely take Richardson over 150 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 4: Daniel Jones right now. 151 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 3: And do you. 152 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 2: Think the potential of Jonathan Taylor not playing for the 153 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 2: Coast this year would help or hurt Richardson's raw numbers. 154 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 2: Like obviously as a develop from a development standpoint, you'd 155 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 2: probably like to have that guy in the backfield that's. 156 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 3: You know, commanding attention. 157 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 2: But do you think like if they don't have Taylor, 158 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 2: do they throw the ball more even with Richardson or 159 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 2: how do you think that would potentially check out? 160 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 4: It's interesting it go either way or I think I 161 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 4: would prefer to have Jonathan Taylor there just so that 162 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 4: the keeps the defense honest, Like you know, having a 163 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 4: Zach Moss is completely a different situation, So I think 164 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 4: having Taylor would help. But yeah, maybe maybe if Taylor's 165 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 4: not there, they're more likely to play Richardson more and 166 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 4: let him run. I don't know what, Like, do you 167 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 4: have any angle on that, because I could go either 168 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 4: way on that. 169 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 3: I think it actually might help with the volume. 170 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 2: I don't know if it'll help with the efficiency, but 171 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 2: I think with richards And I am worried about the 172 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 2: pass volume a little bit, so I might be willing 173 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 2: to trade that because I mean, if you just have 174 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 2: what Moss and Hole and Dean Jackson or and who 175 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 2: they just signed Kenyon Drake, I don't know how you 176 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 2: run the ball, you know, twenty five, twenty seven times, 177 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 2: thirty times a game with those guys. But if you 178 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 2: have Taylor, you know he could take He could average 179 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 2: twenty carries a game for them. So yeah, I think 180 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 2: for the for the sake of fantasy, I'd probably slightly 181 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 2: perfer if Taylor wasn't there, But it'll probably be a 182 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 2: smoother year for Richardson if obviously, if Taylor is. 183 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 3: Lining up in that backfield come week one. 184 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 2: All right, so Bryce young Richardson. The other two quarterbacks, 185 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 2: by the way, that are getting drafted with ADPs are C. J. 186 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 2: Stroud at QB twenty six and Will Levis at QB 187 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 2: thirty four, and then we'll use QB forty two for 188 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 2: all of the other quarterbacks that aren't that don't. 189 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 3: Have an ADP over the last two weeks. So with 190 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 3: my third pick, this is interesting. 191 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 2: So this is gonna come down, I think for me 192 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 2: to Stroud versus Levis, I'm gonna go Stroud because I've 193 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 2: been saying that I don't I'm not sold on the 194 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 2: fact that Levis is going to take over for Tannehill. 195 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 2: I'm not sold on the fact that they have any 196 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 2: intention to do that. I just think this was more 197 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:00,719 Speaker 2: of a kind of an injury protection because last year 198 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 2: you saw what happened when once Tannehill went down. You know, 199 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 2: they were five hundred team give or take with Tannel 200 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 2: and that was with a ton of other injuries and whatnot. 201 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 2: But without Tannehill, I believe they didn't win a game. 202 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 2: Milik Willis could not throw the football, Josh Dobbs could 203 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 2: sign off the streets. So even though you are getting 204 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 2: a little better of a value from ADP with Levis 205 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 2: going outside the top thirty, I think Stroud it's kind 206 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 2: of like Bryce Young like. I think Stroud should start 207 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 2: from week one most likely, and he has a chance 208 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 2: at least to be a little more efficient than maybe 209 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 2: we think. I don't think this Houston team is trying 210 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 2: to tank this year. I think they're gonna be a 211 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 2: little more competitive since they have all of those picks 212 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 2: tied up. 213 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 3: In Arizona next year. 214 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 2: But you know Stroud, the thing about him is, you 215 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 2: know it's really going to come down to you know, 216 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 2: ken he develop chemistry with this wide receiving corps, which 217 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 2: we also really haven't seen together. I mean, it's an 218 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 2: all new receiving corps with except for Nico Collins. Really 219 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 2: with Robert Woods, she tanked Dell. Noah Brown is there, 220 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 2: Dalton Schultz is there. So you know, there are definitely 221 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 2: some concerns with Stroud, I think compared to Young, especially 222 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 2: since Young is a better passer. But if I'm comparing 223 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 2: Stroud to a guy like like Will Levis, I still 224 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 2: think Stroud, uh just has more upside of starting games 225 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 2: like Will Levis may not start any games if Tannehill 226 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 2: stays healthy. 227 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 3: So I still got to go with Stroud. 228 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 2: It's it's somewhat close here, but I still like a 229 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 2: lot of things I saw with Stroud. I and you know, 230 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 2: justin Field's kind of giving us some hope with these 231 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 2: Ohio State quarterbacks recently. 232 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 3: So yeah, not expecting as. 233 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 2: Big as things from Stroud as young, but still gonna 234 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 2: take him as my second pick and third overall here. 235 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I think that that was a no brainer call. 236 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 4: I think Stroud obviously gonna start right away. I think 237 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 4: he has NFL ready accuracy. I think his accuracy is 238 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,079 Speaker 4: his main asset, which is huge because he's more of 239 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 4: a pocket passer then the other two quarterbacks who talked about. 240 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 4: So he's gonna have to hit the ground running. He 241 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 4: might have some bumps along the way, but yeah, like 242 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 4: he's he's the last quarterback on this list that we 243 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 4: can project safely for you know, twelve or more starts. 244 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 4: So I would have taken Stroud there. It's wide open 245 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 4: after him, and I don't like Will Levis at QB 246 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 4: thirty four, but I'm gonna have to take him. 247 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: Just because. 248 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 4: You know, there is the belief that he might make 249 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 4: some starts over the last few weeks of the season. 250 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 4: I'm not one of those people either. 251 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: I'm with you. 252 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 4: I think Ryan Tannehill will start as long as he's 253 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 4: healthy and as long as the Titans have a chance 254 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 4: of making the playoffs. So there's a very real chance 255 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 4: Levis won't start games this year. But out of all 256 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 4: these other quarterbacks, he does have at least a path 257 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 4: to make starts towards the end of the season if 258 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 4: you know, the Titans are out of the playoff hunt 259 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 4: and having you know, DeAndre Hopkins there is huge. So 260 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,719 Speaker 4: if Levin's Levis does take over, at least he has 261 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 4: you know, a talented pass catcher in him. He has 262 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 4: Chig of course, Trail and Burks, so you know, he 263 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 4: has the most upside of the rest of these guys, 264 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 4: but I don't expect him to really start more than 265 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 4: a handful of games if that. So after him, though, 266 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 4: it's really slum pickings. You can't really project any of 267 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 4: these guys to start more than one game if that. So, 268 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna have to go with Levis just because 269 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 4: I'm projecting him for about two starts or so. But yeah, 270 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 4: QB thirty four, that's what you get in at range. 271 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 4: You're not taking guys that are like guaranteed starts. 272 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 2: And what did you just what's your general opinion of 273 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 2: Levis and what he did at Kentucky? Because I personally 274 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 2: wasn't very impressed with him. You know, his quarterback was 275 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 2: was QBR excuse me, he was about sixty nine. 276 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 3: That's forty fourth percentile. It's not great. 277 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 2: You know, I just didn't really see anything watching him 278 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 2: that It was like that blew me away. 279 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 3: But you know, what did you think? 280 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I was on the negative end of things. 281 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 4: You know, he does have some talent, some upside, kind 282 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 4: of like a Carson Wentz. I guess you'd think, like 283 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 4: no one you really get excited for. But he might 284 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 4: have some flashes at times, but mainly it's gonna be 285 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 4: below average, I think. But I was in shocked to 286 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 4: see him fall at the draft because, yeah, he doesn't 287 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 4: have all the tools some of these other quarterbacks have, 288 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 4: but he is. He is a project, and I think 289 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 4: that's the plan, right is they'll probably give him extensive run, 290 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 4: you know, in the preseason because they're they're probably evaluating 291 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 4: him in the team for twenty twenty four and beyond. 292 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 4: So I think getting him as many reps as possible 293 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 4: and the preseason makes a ton of sense because he's 294 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 4: not I don't know if he's NFL ready yet. So 295 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 4: he's one of those guys that has all the skills 296 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 4: he kind of like to have in a quarterback, but 297 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 4: he hasn't put it together. So I'm more on the 298 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 4: negative end with him. But again, like once once we 299 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 4: see him in the preseason, I think that's gonna help 300 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 4: see how you know, he's transitioning to the NFL. 301 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: But I wasn't shocked to see him fall in the draft. 302 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, definitely, like I think the hype, you know, 303 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 2: and I could be wrong, you know, it's tough to 304 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 2: evaluate quarterbacks, but just from what I've seen, I've seen. 305 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 2: This is not a guy that strikes me as a 306 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 2: guy that's gonna beat out Tannehill. The Titans last four 307 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 2: games are Houston, Seattle, Houston, Jacksonville, so they're almost certainly 308 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 2: not going to be out of the playoff picture. Yeah, 309 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 2: with two games three divisional games in the last four, 310 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 2: two against Houston. So yeah, I think I think, you know, 311 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 2: Canadal has gotten hurt, and what is he now? 312 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 3: Thirty five? Yeah, yeah, so he's. 313 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's I mean, there's a chance that he gets hurt, 314 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 2: and you know that's how wevis comes into some value. 315 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is his age thirty five season. 316 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 2: But yeah, Barnett just nothing really to be stood out 317 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 2: what he did in Kentucky. He's a bigger, you know, 318 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 2: bigger guy, six four, about two thirty. You would think 319 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 2: he would be really good deep passer, but his deep 320 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 2: numbers in twenty twenty two were. 321 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 3: Well below average. 322 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: Throw it far, Yeah, he could throw. 323 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 3: It after exactly. 324 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 2: Agree, that's kind of the issue, right, So and yeah, 325 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 2: you can, you can move around a little bit, you 326 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 2: know what I mean, it's not you know, you could 327 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 2: definitely move but it Yeah, again, there's just nothing that 328 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 2: I'm really loving uh with uh with Levis here. 329 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: But all right, where the hell are you going next? Now? 330 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, now it gets really dicey. Now it gets super dicey. 331 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 2: Uh So just just uh name some of the guys 332 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 2: who are on the board here. Obviously, Thompson Robinson who 333 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 2: we talked about, was a fifth rounder out of UCLA. 334 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 2: Clayton Tune was a fifth rounder out of Houston on 335 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 2: the Cardinals. 336 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 3: Thompson on the on the Browns. 337 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 2: Obviously you got Stetson Bennett out of Georgia. He was 338 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 2: a fourth round pick of the Rams. Aidan O'Connell, a 339 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 2: fourth round pick of the Raiders. Was there is on 340 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 2: the board. Hendon Hooker's uh not going to play this year, 341 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 2: it looks like. But he was the third rounder out 342 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 2: of Tennessee. And then you got some Jake Haynter was 343 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 2: a fourth round Fresno State that went to the Saints. 344 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 2: Jaron hall Vikings fifth rounder from b Yu, Tanner McKee 345 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 2: on the Eagles sounds like he's having a good camp. 346 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 2: Six rounder out of Stanford, and Max Dugan TCU was 347 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 2: a seventh rounder. He went to the Chargers. When I 348 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 2: look at this list of guys and I say, okay, 349 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:25,199 Speaker 2: you know if we're talking redraft none. Right, Well, so 350 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 2: you know Thompson Robinson I think is interesting because I 351 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 2: think he could potentially jump Josh Dobbs and then you know, 352 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 2: be that QB two if Watson, if something happens to Watson. Uh, 353 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 2: tune is interesting because we're here in Colt McCoy might 354 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 2: not be ready for week one, so I think he's interesting. 355 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 3: Uh. 356 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 2: And then you know, the Packers released Danny Etlings, so 357 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 2: Clifford is definitely it looks like he's going to be 358 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 2: the backup to Jordan Love O'Connell. I guess the upside 359 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 2: where him would be Jimmy Garoppo always gets hurt, but 360 00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 2: you got Hoyer. 361 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 3: In front of him him. 362 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 2: So I am going to have to I'm gonna have 363 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 2: to go a tune because I think he has the best. 364 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 2: He could make a Week one or we could make 365 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 2: a couple of starts early in the year. 366 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 3: I think that's like. And he you know, he can 367 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 3: move around. 368 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 2: He scrambled about just over eight percent of the time 369 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 2: in his career, just over nine percent of the time 370 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 2: in his final season in Houston in twenty twenty two, 371 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 2: about two thousand yards over and fifteen touchdowns over his 372 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 2: five year career in Houston. 373 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 3: So you know that's you know, give me. 374 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 2: A guy who can run around and might might just 375 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 2: start in week one. So yeah, Quay, and if they 376 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 2: if the car We've talked about this, you know, if 377 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 2: the Cardinals are struggling, you know, how soon you know, 378 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 2: what do they do with Kyler Murray? 379 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 3: Do they you know, do they do they not bring 380 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 3: him back as fast? 381 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 2: Or if he is back but he's not one hundred percent, 382 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 2: do they just kind of shut him down again? 383 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 3: That also could lead to more starts later. 384 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 2: In the year for too, because remember the Cardinals are 385 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 2: projected to have the worst record in the National Football 386 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 2: So I don't see why you would start Colt McCoy 387 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 2: in like week fifteen if you're two in twelve or 388 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 2: something like that. So yeah, I'm gonna go Quinton tune here, 389 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 2: the fifth rounder out of Houston. 390 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 391 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 4: No, I would have gone with him too, because he's 392 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 4: the one that has the clearest path to playing time. 393 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 4: Like you said, they might have no choice and have 394 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 4: to start in week one since Colt McCoy has hurt 395 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 4: as well. 396 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: So yeah, so he's. 397 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 4: The most likely wanted to get some starts, and he 398 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 4: more importantly, he has rushing upside, so if he does 399 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:34,959 Speaker 4: get starts, you know he can eke out some points. 400 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: But yeah, he would have been. 401 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 4: The last guy that I'm projecting for more than a 402 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 4: game started. But I'm gonna have to get sneaky here. 403 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with Aidan O'Connell on the Raiders. He's 404 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 4: their fourth round pick out of Purdue. I think he's 405 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 4: sneaky here because there also is a path for him 406 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 4: to getting playing time this year, because you know, he's 407 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 4: battling out Brian Hoyer to see who's gonna back up 408 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,719 Speaker 4: Jimmy G this year. And as we know, Jimmy G's 409 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 4: just never been able to stay healthy for a full season. 410 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 4: He's already dealing with injuries, you know, heading into this season. 411 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 4: So there's a non zero chance that Jimmy G will 412 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 4: get injured this year and miss some games. And also, 413 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 4: you know, Jimmy G could struggle in this new offense. 414 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 4: It could warrant a benching, who knows, but there is 415 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 4: a chance there's a path for An O'Connell to get 416 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 4: some starts this year, and I think he's a pretty 417 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 4: solid prospect. You know, he started all four seasons at Purdue, 418 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 4: so he has a ton of experience. He could be 419 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 4: sort of like this year is Brock Purdy. I think 420 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 4: where he could surprise him people. I think he is 421 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 4: pulsh enough to start games NFL, you know, and he's 422 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 4: on a team that they could be horrible this year. 423 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 4: They could you know, by then of the season. Want 424 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 4: to see what they have in O'Connell, even if Jimmy 425 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 4: G's healthy. So there's at least paths for O'Connell to 426 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 4: get playing time this year. And he's a fourth round prospect. 427 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 4: He's not bad. So I think out of all the 428 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 4: remaining guys, he's probably the best bet to actually see 429 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 4: arts this year. 430 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, anytime you're talking, I mean because Jimmy G. 431 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 2: Not only does he struggle to play full seasons, but 432 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 2: Brian Hoyer is just old, very old. 433 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 1: What do you need to see Brian Hoyer for at 434 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: this point? 435 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean. 436 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 2: Knowing Josh McDaniels, he's been with Hoyer for what decades now, 437 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 2: Like Roy will definitely get that first crack. 438 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 3: An Yeah, yeah right, but the lord, Yeah. 439 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 2: There's there's enough, Like I mean, Hoyer is an injury 440 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 2: risk at this point in his career too, So h yeah, 441 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 2: there's enough there. I think with uh with O'Connell to 442 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 2: to kind of warrant some uh to Warren to look here. 443 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 2: The only thing with him is he doesn't really move. 444 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 3: Around that much. I think he's scrambled like under two 445 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 3: percent of the time, right, And yeah. 446 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 4: He would have to be like rock pretty level of efficient, 447 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 4: and he doesn't have the benefit of being in a 448 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 4: Kyle Shanahall offense surrounded by Deebo Samuel, George Kittle and 449 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 4: Brandon Ayuk. But all things considered, the remaining quarterbacks, he's 450 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 4: the best bet at being that kind of like diamond 451 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 4: in the rough. 452 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 3: All right, we got one more peak. 453 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: I know where you go. 454 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 3: It's either DTR Clifford. It's definitely one of those two guys. 455 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 2: So like I loved what I saw out of DTR, 456 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 2: I also feel like that's recentcy biased. But I'm gonna 457 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 2: go Clifford here because the only other quarterback on the 458 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 2: rostervertis him in love is Alex mcew. I think that's 459 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 2: how you pronounce it. Who was a He's a journeyman. 460 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 2: Twenty eighteen draft pick from Seattle, seventh round pick out 461 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 2: of Seattle went to FIU. But I think that you know, 462 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 2: Jordan Love, the plan is for him to start no 463 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 2: matter what. But if he goes down, I think you 464 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 2: see what you have in Clifford here, who was a 465 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 2: you know, fifth round pick out of Penn State. Not 466 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 2: really a big guy or anything like that, but you know, 467 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 2: did does have above average measurables in terms of his speed, 468 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 2: ran a forty and the eighty fourth percentile. He does 469 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 2: scramble enough, you know, not a little more than average, 470 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 2: so you can move around, and you know, you look 471 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 2: at this Packer team and it's just a whole bunch 472 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 2: of young guys all over the skill positions on offense. 473 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 2: So it's another situation where I think, you know, any 474 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 2: if Love gets hurt, if anything like that happens, you're 475 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 2: gonna you're gonna You're just gonna go with Clifford. And 476 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 2: even maybe you know, there's even a long shot chance 477 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 2: that maybe Love is completely horrible for some I don't 478 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 2: think he will be horrible, but if he's horrible and 479 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 2: you're and the Packers just really bottom out this year, 480 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 2: you know, maybe you do look at Clifford in week, 481 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 2: you know, fifteen sixteen, seventeen eighteen, one of those weeks. 482 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 2: So just just looking at this Packer depth chart, I 483 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 2: gotta go with Clifford here, just because he's already the 484 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 2: number two quarterback and whereas DTR, you. 485 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 3: Know, good chance to beat out Dobbs. 486 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 2: But Dobbs has been in Cleveland before, you know, so 487 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 2: you know there's a chance he doesn't. There's a chance 488 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 2: he's kind of just a pre he's in Star. So 489 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go a Quifford here. 490 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that makes sense. He just has a clear, 491 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 4: clear path to playing time. But I think, God, considering 492 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 4: between Stenson, Bennett and d moly Moly, I'm gonna go 493 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 4: with DTR. Though, Yes, I just think that you know, 494 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 4: he does have he has an fl battle. I think 495 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 4: he absolutely has passed Keelman to be at least the 496 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 4: third quarterback on the Browns depth chart. But like you said, 497 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 4: I think he does have the upside to leap frog 498 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 4: Josh Dobbs. He's kinda who Josh Dobbs was like seven 499 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 4: years ago when he entered the league, when he was 500 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 4: a bit younger. You know, Dobbs is a rushing type 501 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 4: of quarterback. Now he's a bit older, doesn't have the 502 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 4: same speed, But DTR, I mean, you saw it in 503 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame game, He's got it. He was 504 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 4: actually more impressive as a passer than I thought, So 505 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 4: he at least has the upside to potentially back up 506 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 4: Deshaun Watson and again, and you know, he has that 507 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 4: rushing upside, so if he does happen to get a 508 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 4: spot spark start, he could put up some points. So 509 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 4: we're really, you know, grasping a shraws down here. But 510 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 4: I think DTR has you know, the rushing upside and 511 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 4: sort of the path needed to be the last pick 512 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 4: of this draft. I can't go Stinson Benner. 513 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: I just can't. 514 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's talk. 515 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 2: About Stethsan Benner, you know, just for people that don't know. 516 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 2: I mean, well, you know DTR. 517 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 3: He was. He was a baller at UCLA, like I 518 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 3: actually thought. 519 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 2: I thought he was one of the better quarterbacks, you know, 520 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 2: one of the fastest guys in the draft at quarterback, 521 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 2: A four point five six forty. His QBR was just 522 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 2: under e two, so that was very good as well. 523 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 2: So he was a he was a true dual threat underside. 524 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 1: Deal with him. DA had to deal with him and 525 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,719 Speaker 1: Zach Charboney at the same time. Very stuff. 526 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I definitely like what I saw out of him. 527 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 2: You know, you could tell he has he has something 528 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 2: in him and probably he's probably going to be around 529 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 2: and like, I don't I think at this point, probably 530 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 2: has to make the active roster, whether he's the QB 531 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 2: two or three, because you're not sneaking him a practice 532 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 2: squad or anything like that. 533 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: Right. 534 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 2: But Bennett, you know, he was drafted before pretty much 535 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 2: all these other guys outside of you know, the top 536 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 2: the top four here and handed hooker. But is like, 537 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 2: do you think he do you think he is the 538 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 2: front runner for this backup job in year? Wonder do 539 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 2: you think it's gonna be Brett Rippen, a guy who 540 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 2: just has kind of been around a little bit more 541 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 2: with a more traditional quarterback because Bennett's way undersize. 542 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 3: He's five to eleven, under two hundred. 543 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 2: Pounds and uh, and he's also on the older side, right, 544 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 2: He's I think this is gonna he's twenty six this year. 545 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 3: Uh. You know, so you know, what are your thoughts 546 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 3: on on Bennett? 547 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, well, the reason he went in the 548 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 4: fourth round is just because the Rams probably reached for him, 549 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 4: so at least I like him, So I think that, yeah, 550 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 4: like if if Matthew Stafford goes down, their season's probably lost. Anyway, 551 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 4: you know, what where do you stand to gain by 552 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 4: sending Bett Rippion out there? So I think they could 553 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 4: throw Stetson Bennett out there just to see what he has, 554 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 4: because again, he's always overachieved. Like you know, he was 555 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 4: a walk on it Georgia and led them to two 556 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 4: national titles. So you know, that might warrant a look 557 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 4: in the NFL. But like you said, I just think 558 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 4: he's too undersized. I don't think he'll translate to the 559 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 4: NFL pretty well. But you know, we've seen crazier things. 560 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 4: So again, the fact that the Rams spent fourth round 561 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 4: draft capital on him means they do view him highly. 562 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 4: So that's all that matters, right, So I think that 563 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 4: he does have a legit chance to be Stafford's backup. 564 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 4: And again we're about to see, you know, potentially in person, 565 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 4: see him in person in his first preseason game. If 566 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 4: he plays well, I don't see why he couldn't, you know, 567 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 4: get the backup job. So it's he definitely has a 568 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 4: path to become the backup and then he's a Stafford 569 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 4: injury way of getting starts. 570 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, It's like I do like. 571 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 2: You going DTR over Bennett though, because when I look 572 00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 2: at DTR, I say, Okay, if Deshaul Lawson goes down, 573 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 2: DTR can run the same offense, right, Whereas like if 574 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 2: Stafford goes down, I feel like Ripping would be the 575 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 2: one that could run that offense, whereas like Bennett, you 576 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,360 Speaker 2: would have to change the offense a little more for him. 577 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 2: So that I do like that, you know, going into 578 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 2: like a guy like dt arts favor over a guy 579 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 2: like Bennett. 580 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 3: And the size, I mean, that's it is. It is 581 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 3: kind of weird to have a guy with five eleven. 582 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 4: I mean, old, that's like just sending me out there. 583 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 4: I wouldn't do that. 584 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:36,439 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, just draft you with the last pick, man, 585 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 3: but uh yeah. And then and then Jake. 586 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 2: Hayner, I mean he's gonna be you know, fourth round 587 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 2: out of Fresno State went to the Saints. But you 588 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 2: still have Jamis on that team, and you know that 589 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,239 Speaker 2: you still have obviously car Is gonna get his you know, 590 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 2: got the big money, he's gonna get all the chances. 591 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 2: But you also have taste him. So, I mean, this 592 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 2: guy Hayter, it's probably gonna be a red shirt year, 593 00:28:55,000 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 2: uh for him, Jaron Hall, I mean, yeah, he's did 594 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 2: you know Kirk Counts doesn't this games? 595 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 3: Uh McKee alreadys having a good camp. 596 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 2: But you got Hurts, you got Mariota, So I mean, 597 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 2: you know that's brutal. 598 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I mean, great, great supporting cast. 599 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 2: If you ever did happen to get you know, get 600 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 2: a start, oh, it. 601 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 3: Would be sound. But yeah, and then you know Dugan 602 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 3: in the in l A. 603 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, Dugan is interesting. He's I mean, he's an athlete. 604 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 4: He would be a hell of a rushing quarterback. But 605 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 4: I think he's considerate, like they might consider moving him 606 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 4: to like wide receiver or something like. I don't know 607 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 4: if he's gonna make it as a quarterback, so he's 608 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 4: got to figure something out. And then hen and Hooker, 609 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 4: you know, I was holding out hope that he might 610 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 4: potentially be available at in the season, but the the 611 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 4: Teddy Bridgewater signing just leads me to think that they're 612 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 4: saying we're keeping Hooker on ice for the the what 613 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 4: it's gonna be a red shirt season from I just 614 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 4: thought that the Bridgewater signing was the nail in the 615 00:29:58,680 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 4: coffin on that. 616 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not playing, it doesn't sound like he's playing 617 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 2: this year. But go back to Dugan, he actually is 618 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 2: at least somewhat intriguing because I mean, the only guy 619 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 2: behind Herbert is Easton Stick, who has really never done 620 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 2: much of anything to warrant being uh, you know, dis 621 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 2: important of a backup. So you know, if if somehow 622 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 2: Dugan was able to get in there, I mean, the 623 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 2: supporting cast is amazing in LA. So that's a guy 624 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 2: who if we were picking a couple more picks, I 625 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 2: probably have to take him. 626 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: Uh just take him. 627 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 4: In preseason dfs. Yeah, I definitely will I go off there, 628 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 4: but yeah, that will be interesting that maybe we'll see 629 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 4: him this Saturday as well. 630 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, charges rams, baby quarter I mean most quarterbacks are shitty. 631 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 2: That's that playing in the season. 632 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: All right. 633 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 3: Let me recap this draft again. 634 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 2: This is UH drafting for value above ADP for this season. 635 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 2: So that's what makes it tough, especially after the first 636 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 2: few picks. But I started with Bryce Young QB twenty four, 637 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 2: then Sewn went Anthony Richardson QB thirteen. I went Stroud 638 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 2: at QB twenty six, Sean went Will Levis at QB 639 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 2: thirty four. Then I went Clayton Tune. He's undrafted and 640 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 2: he is a fifth rounder. I went to the Cardinals, 641 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 2: Sean went Aidan O'Connell of the Raiders, then I went 642 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 2: Sean Quifford of the Packers, and Sean ended it with 643 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:40,719 Speaker 2: Dorian Thompson Robinson of the Browns. So that is going 644 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 2: to wrap it up for our Fantasy flex Rookie at 645 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 2: Quarterback fantasy preview for twenty twenty three. Our Rookie running 646 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 2: Back and wide Receiver episodes are already up, and those 647 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,959 Speaker 2: I think are a lot more useful because there's just 648 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 2: a lot of guys that could potentially factor in at 649 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 2: those two position for this year. We will drop the 650 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 2: tight end episode later on in the week next so 651 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 2: stay tuned for that and you can find Sean on 652 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 2: X at the Underscore Oddsmaker, I'm at Chris Raybon. We're 653 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 2: at those same handles on the free award winning Action 654 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 2: Network app, and be sure to check out actionnetwork dot 655 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 2: com for our twenty twenty three season long fantasy rankings 656 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 2: as well. 657 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 3: Until next time, let's get this money off. 658 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 2: Action Network reminds you please gamble responsibly. If you or 659 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 2: someone you care about has a gambling problem, help is 660 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 2: available twenty four to seven at one eight hundred gambler