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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the

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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco, Flowing Gold and now your hosts Isaiah Stanback,

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Speaker 1: heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeoman's Oh, It's

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Speaker 1: a fabulous Monday edition of Talking Cowboys from the SWBC

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Speaker 1: Mortgage studios here at the Star in Frisco. Welcome in everybody,

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Speaker 1: as we break down the championship matchups that just unfolded

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Speaker 1: in the Kansas City Chiefs the pride of Phillips preseason

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Speaker 1: predictions are going back to the Super Bowl, which I really,

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Speaker 1: honestly that probably wasn't the best prediction in the world, because,

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Speaker 1: I mean, everybody kind of thought that that was a

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Speaker 1: pretty good chance that the Chiefs would find their way

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Speaker 1: back to the super Bowl, but the prediction did not

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Speaker 1: include Tom Brady going back to the Super Bowl. That's

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Speaker 1: time as a member of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and

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Speaker 1: we are going to talk about it with a former

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Speaker 1: teammate of mister Tom Brady, Isaiah stand Back and our

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Speaker 1: professional football analyst Heck my Harrison, Rob Phillips would join

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Speaker 1: us coming up here in just a little bit. I'm

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Speaker 1: Kyle Yomen's Chris being back in the back as always

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Speaker 1: and gentlemen, Yeah, there's a lot to break down from

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Speaker 1: yesterday's action, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers taking down the Green

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Speaker 1: Bay Packers initially and then followed up by really a

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Speaker 1: dominant performance of the Chiefs over the Buffalo Bills, the uprising,

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Speaker 1: red hot Buffalo Bills. But what were your thoughts, Isaiah

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Speaker 1: on really what unfolded on Championship Sunday and really the

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Speaker 1: What I what I thought, man, I thought that, you know,

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo has had a good run. But obviously, I mean, hey,

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Speaker 1: I mean those guys are who they are, right U

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Speaker 1: They're just they're they're they're too powerful on both sides

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Speaker 1: of the ball. Really. But then you look at the

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Speaker 1: Green Bay Tampa game, and we knew that was gonna

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Speaker 1: be a tough game. You know, you got to two

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Speaker 1: really the deciding factor between that game wasn't necessarily between

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Speaker 1: the guys on the offenside of the ball. But it's

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Speaker 1: their defense. And as soon as uh, you know, the

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Speaker 1: defensive line of Tampa is very strong, very strong. And

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Speaker 1: then as soon as you had to heard the news

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Speaker 1: of my U dub mister Vita Vea coming back, you

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Speaker 1: knew it was pretty much a rap. That defensive line

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Speaker 1: is just too powerful, um, pretty much for any offensive line,

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Speaker 1: especially this time of the year. So um, the results

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Speaker 1: came out, you know, the obviously TV twelves going back.

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Speaker 1: He's that dude, and there all the haters that are

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Speaker 1: out there, you really just probably just just just because

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Speaker 1: he's he's he's he's nice. I was a hater earlier

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Speaker 1: in the season, Isaiah because I basically told everybody that

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Speaker 1: I thought he was washed and I will eat crow.

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Speaker 1: I'm gladly because that I was wrong. I was completely wrong.

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Speaker 1: Now he's not what he was in two thousand and five.

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Speaker 1: For those of you saying that, hey, it's the same

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady as he was in his prime, that's not true.

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Speaker 1: He's going to give away the football game. He tried

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Speaker 1: to yesterday on three different occasions. But that defense, my goodness, heck,

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Speaker 1: Ma Harrison, if you wanted to model the Cowboys defense

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Speaker 1: after a team that like remade a defense in one

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Speaker 1: or two seasons. I think Tampa Bay would be kind

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Speaker 1: is just absolutely nasty and their secondary is pretty darn

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Speaker 1: good too. Well. Yeah, especially when you can get you

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Speaker 1: can get all of that pressure with just four guys,

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Speaker 1: and that's what they're able to manufacturer in this system.

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Speaker 1: And man, Jason Pierre Paul, how about him, a guy

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Speaker 1: Giants going to Tampa Bay and this resurgence of his

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Speaker 1: career also in Dominican Sue. But man, it's Shack. It's

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Speaker 1: not Shack, it's Shack bart Butt, say Griffin, Shack Barrett,

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Speaker 1: ball like Shack Barrett is literally unstoppable. And when you

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Speaker 1: Todd Bows did a masterful job, masterful job against against

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna You're just not going to stop Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: But what you have to do is take things away,

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Speaker 1: pick pick your poison. Right. We know we can't stop Aaron. Look,

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Speaker 1: when you say that Tom Brady isn't what he was,

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Speaker 1: you know an oh five man, when you get in

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Speaker 1: your forties, Man, you wasn't what you was last month,

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Speaker 1: So just wait five time. It's gonna come for you too,

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Speaker 1: So you'd be careful how you talk about the seriatric

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Speaker 1: people of the world. Man. See, And whenever I was

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Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence had a decent ear, but you expect him

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Speaker 1: to be what Jason, Peter Paul and Jack Barrett were yesterday.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly what you expect d law to be. You

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Speaker 1: want him off the ball, you want him quick, and

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips back into the show here in just a second,

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Speaker 1: look at that nice slide from Rob Phillips and Chris Beam.

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Speaker 1: The production value here is just outsolutely unmatched. But Rob,

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Speaker 1: when you looked at that defense yesterday from Tampa Bay,

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Speaker 1: a great question because I think overall those teams are

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's number one to your point. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: your personnel. Hey, Rob, Yeah, but Pete, Hey, Pete, I

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Speaker 1: have missed on some second day guys, especially some safeties

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Speaker 1: And you know what, it's it's funny. I just pop in.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's the joys of parenthoods wine. Late today

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Speaker 1: I was listening. I was listening to a little bit

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Speaker 1: so and that's dan Quinn's philosophy too. Now that's gotta

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Speaker 1: huge role for dan Quinn coming in how he fixes things,

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Speaker 1: how he gets guys more comfortable in the roles, understanding

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's a reason why they're there, Yeah, But

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Speaker 1: I mean, how, especially with all the speculation fellas I

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Speaker 1: get your roster to that point? Though? Because these is

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Speaker 1: one year? I said that last That's a great point.

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Speaker 1: investing draft picks, investing salary cap money. I don't think

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Speaker 1: you got to hope that your offense can just supplement

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Speaker 1: Let's just say quarter, first half, quarter to two the

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Speaker 1: second half, all of those picks are not on him.

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Speaker 1: But I'm just gonna say that. Okay, let's say this.

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Speaker 1: Let's say this, with two minutes and twelve seconds left

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Speaker 1: smart decision, so stupid to kick the field goal. But

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Speaker 1: you do that. You do that. You do that based

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Speaker 1: two minute one. But everybody, but everybody in the world

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Speaker 1: knows that Tom Brady is across from you and he

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Speaker 1: you can't. That's the greatness of tom Brady right there,

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Speaker 1: and that's why he took the ball out of a

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame quarterbacks hands and then had lka defense.

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Speaker 1: You go out there and stop the greatest quarterback that's

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Speaker 1: ever lit. That's to that point. He did do that. However,

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Speaker 1: that Hall of Fame quarterback should have ran the ball

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Speaker 1: in Oh yeah, oh, from the second down. I agree, Yes, completely.

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Speaker 1: And he said after the game like he didn't necessarily

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Speaker 1: play at it, which I didn't understand that. You just

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Speaker 1: run anyway, try to get himself to a closer. That's yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a b S. That's a b S. Yeah, that's one.

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Speaker 1: He should have ran it in. He that's when every

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Speaker 1: quarterback's done it. Every quarterbacks throwing the ball across their

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Speaker 1: body thinking that they could fit it in there when

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Speaker 1: they literally just if they would have just lifted their

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Speaker 1: of him, that's a walk in touchdown. He bade him

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Speaker 1: a pre Paul would have walked him down. I'm just saying,

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Speaker 1: didn't let him been close. Hey down, my boy. JPP

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Speaker 1: might have got there, however, it would have been a

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Speaker 1: mida because he had Yes, he only he only got

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Speaker 1: three fingers, Isaiah, would he might have missed with two? Isaiah.

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Speaker 1: Not every not every quarterback in the NFL can run

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Speaker 1: like you do, Okay, not every quarterback can get those

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Speaker 1: legs moving and unhooked the trailer a little bit. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you're you're a special break if you're played it. If

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Speaker 1: you're played it, Kyle, I believe in you. I believe

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Speaker 1: in you. Are you saying I could have running in

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Speaker 1: to the SUPERB? All right, you would have one, probably, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you would have got you would have you would have

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Speaker 1: pulled it. You would have dropped a couple of tens

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Speaker 1: and then getting care flighted back to the Green Bay Hospital. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: no doubt about that. Let's go ahead and take our

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Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis do you think all three of these guys

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Speaker 1: are gone this offseason? And then he asked a second question,

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Speaker 1: I'll ask it here in just a moment about some

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Speaker 1: All three are free agents this summer. I guess dot summer,

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Speaker 1: but I guess spring free agents right now. Really to

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Speaker 1: get into these talks, but do you think all three

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Speaker 1: it on this show before. Who would you bring back

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Speaker 1: at this very moment. We'll start with you, Isaiah. I

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Speaker 1: hate to say it depends, man, but it really depends

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Speaker 1: on what you have out there that you can go

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Speaker 1: get in free agency. I think that you I would

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Speaker 1: prefer to fall back on those guys and not necessarily

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Speaker 1: lead with those guys that if that answers the question,

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Speaker 1: I prefer to not bring any of them back. Maybe yeah,

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Speaker 1: I prefer to not bring any of them back. I

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Speaker 1: just leave it at that. So I'd rather go out

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Speaker 1: there and see what I can get. Brings some new

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Speaker 1: guys in with his new regime, and if I can't

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Speaker 1: get all those guys that I really want, then I'll retain,

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Speaker 1: you know, retain the best one at each position. But

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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not necessarily a fan of you have

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Speaker 1: any of them. Jordan Lewis. I like, I like some

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Speaker 1: of the things that he does, but at the end

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Speaker 1: of the year he kind of those dumb plays kind

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Speaker 1: of proved why he shouldn't be here. M okay, Rob,

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of it depends now on what

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Speaker 1: dan Quinn thinks, and I go back to that interview

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Speaker 1: but he's he said, I've got to dive into personnel

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Speaker 1: and see who we got and who fits, who we

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Speaker 1: can really work with, you know, in so many words,

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Speaker 1: I guess, And so to Isaiah's point, you know, the

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Speaker 1: secondary as a whole just really struggled. You know, I

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Speaker 1: group there. Um, I don't know what his free agent

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Speaker 1: market might look like. I could see one of the

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Speaker 1: And and that's a huge position in this scheme. If

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Speaker 1: it's going to be more of like the zan Quinn

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Speaker 1: schemes we've seen in the past, you got to have

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Speaker 1: lot of range. So, um, I'd say I'd say one

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Speaker 1: to try to help yourself there. Hey, And I agree

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Speaker 1: with you rob when you say it's going to be

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Speaker 1: up to dan Quinn to make the decision. Look at

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Speaker 1: and also a woozier being back Jordan Lewis just because

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Speaker 1: of his skill set. And let's look, let's not also

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Speaker 1: It's not really a lot of depth there. Especially going

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Speaker 1: looking at who is that? Who's this greatness that come

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Speaker 1: they just got to test the market to see what's

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Speaker 1: about Lewis and Cheetah, yeah, I think I would flip

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Speaker 1: a coin on the corners. I'd be fine with one

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Speaker 1: of those two guys coming back, Jordan Lewis or Cheeto.

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Speaker 1: even in my thought process of how they would fit

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Speaker 1: I'm fine trying to go find a safety. There's a

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Speaker 1: like a treyvon mooreg out of TCU or Darius Washington

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Speaker 1: the system, they know the team, and they know the

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Speaker 1: locker room. But yeah, I don't. I don't see multiple

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Speaker 1: guys coming back. I really don't now. And another thing,

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Speaker 1: let me go for Kyle. Another thing you may want

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Speaker 1: travel with coaches and so we may have a little

638
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: bit of that as well with guys signing onto the

639
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: Cowboys roster, you know. And I'm glad you brought up

640
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: that point because Atlanta didn't really have a ton of guys.

641
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,959
Speaker 1: Let's just talk about if you thought the Cowboys had

642
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 1: a depth issue at safety, so did Atlanta. Atlanta also

643
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: had that depth or not even at safety, but at corner,

644
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: defensive back or whatever. That secondary was depleted as well

645
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: for the Falcons last year. And Rob brought up the

646
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: point in the first segment about Dan Quinn and the

647
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: scheme or talent over scheme, players over scheme in terms

648
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: of evaluation and personnel, and I thought that was the case,

649
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: and it's nice to hear him say that because I

650
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: feel like that's kind of what we want here in Dallas.

651
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: But at the same time, you look at what their

652
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: draft history was a year ago. They could have very

653
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: easily taken Cede Lamb at number sixteen. Instead, they went

654
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: with A. J. Teller's the corner out of Clemson because

655
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: he ended up fitting a need and he was taking

656
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: maybe forty picks too high. To my regard, I had

657
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: Treyvon Diggs over AJ tell Or I think it was Teller.

658
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 1: I keep saying. I think I might say his name wrong,

659
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,439
Speaker 1: but Terrell Terrell is his name last year. So AJ

660
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,919
Speaker 1: Terrell was the Clemson corner. I had Treyvon Diggs higher

661
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: than AJ Terrell and they ended up picking him because

662
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: he fit a need. So Rob, do you think that's

663
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: him saying that maybe based on his own thought process.

664
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Speaker 1: I know he's not going to be a huge part

665
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: in the draft process, but so was Rod Marinelli in

666
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: the previous years. He don't necessarily want that kind of

667
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 1: interaction costing you some picks. Well, I think number one,

668
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: that's that's what Mike McCarthy has said when since he's

669
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: had the job, that's what you have to do. I

670
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: think most coaches would say that too, that you had

671
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: It's it's your responsibility to put the players in the

672
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 1: best spots. So I think that's general coaching one on

673
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: one in a way. But I think it is important.

674
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: I do think. I think in this particular situation, it's

675
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: kind of the it's kind of a good marriage because

676
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 1: we talked about how they've played this scheme in one

677
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: form or another in the past. They know it can

678
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: work with some of the players they have already, so there.

679
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,760
Speaker 1: I don't he's not coming in trying to reinvent the wheel,

680
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: so I think the scheme in itself will probably fit

681
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: the team better anyway. Um, But yeah, I think when

682
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: we talked about he has worked in some other schemes,

683
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: so I think he you know, he's got enough versatility

684
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 1: where he can he can kind of mold things to

685
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: the players that that fit well. But I think overall,

686
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 1: we're gonna see you know, we're gonna see a four

687
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 1: three scheme here. We'll cover three all that good stuff. Isaiah. Yeah,

688
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: I mean it's a role's point. I think he's I mean,

689
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: he knows what he's doing and he knows the talent

690
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 1: that he has. I know everything that I've seen from him,

691
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: he's been able to get the most out of every player.

692
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: I don't think that we have axtreme lack of talent.

693
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 1: I think we have a streme lack of confidence. Uh

694
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: in guy's abilities. I think that you the guys that

695
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: you currently have on a roster, I think you can

696
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: get everything out of them and be a very productive defense.

697
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 1: I really do. And now that doesn't take away from

698
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: the fact that I think we still need some additional pieces.

699
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 1: I think I definitely think we need some guys who

700
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: are better than what we currently have. But if you can't,

701
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: if you had to go into next year with the

702
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: current roster that you have on defense, you have the

703
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 1: enough enough talent on the defensive line, at the linebacker position,

704
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: in the secondary to get what you need out simply

705
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: because of what we started out this this whole podcast

706
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 1: talking about, which is the defensive line of Tampa Bay.

707
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: We have a solid defensive line here too. If guys

708
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: are playing with confidence, if guys are playing with a

709
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: scheme that highlights their abilities in their and their skill sets.

710
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: So when you have a defense accordity that put you

711
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: in a in a position to be successful, then all

712
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: of a sudden, your game elevates. And I think that's

713
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: what that's what coach Point is gonna be able to

714
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: come in and do. Yeah, he just needs guys in

715
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,479
Speaker 1: a smart that are able to pick up this game.

716
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: And regardless of you know, what they played last year.

717
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 1: You look at if you look around the league like

718
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: we're making so much of three or four versus four three,

719
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: what is your base? Teams play a variety of schemes

720
00:36:58,400 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: and you just have to be able to pick it

721
00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: up up and execute. Jalen Smith too, is if I

722
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: could just take out one person that had the worst

723
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: twenty twenty just based off of the fact that he

724
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: didn't understand what he was doing. Nobody had play real

725
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: time live with live AMMO out there not knowing what

726
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: you're doing. So putting guys in the right this one thing.

727
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 1: Just hold on, hold yeah, hold on, Haman, who me?

728
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: You saw the film? Yeah, you watch them? Watch the film.

729
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: Come on now, I watch the film. I watched the film.

730
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: I just see guys missing, you know, missing the scheme

731
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: hadn't just settled with these guys. So look, defensively, whatever

732
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: dan Quinn does, he knows that he's, you know, the sky.

733
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: The own thing that he has is to go up

734
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: right because of where they were. Confidence wise, like you said, Isaiah,

735
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: confidence is shot right because all of these guys saw

736
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: what happened to them in twenty twenty. You gotta build

737
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: them up. But at the same time, if you're just

738
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: gonna say I'm gonna get this guy and he's gonna

739
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,720
Speaker 1: be a plug and play guy, you may be setting

740
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: yourself up with disaster. Again. He's got to be a

741
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: proven he got to be a guy that's shown you

742
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: that he can make plays and not just based off

743
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: of some reputation that you're going to give him. Yeah,

744
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: and I think there's a bunch of guys like that

745
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: either interchangeable, and I think the defense needs a complete overhaul.

746
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: And so the fact that there's a couple of a

747
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,280
Speaker 1: couple of guys in the secondary that you could easily

748
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: do that for, I wouldn't be against doing so. Okay,

749
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: second part of Kenneth Shumo's question was offensive linemen and

750
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 1: defensive Lineman, any pieces to pick up in free agency

751
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 1: that could potentially help this overhaul of the defense, Rob

752
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: do you know of any names off the top of

753
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: your head that the Cowboys could potentially be targeting? No,

754
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: not stop my head. It's kind of early for that.

755
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: It did as well, they need to, I think I

756
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: said earlier, you know, not to be repetitive, but I

757
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 1: think dan Quinn has to figure out with who he

758
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: has on the roster, who can fit with what he's

759
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: trying to do, and or who can who he can

760
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,240
Speaker 1: really work with and build around. You know, I think

761
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 1: I think on the offensive line, they're they're okay as

762
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 1: long as they're as long as they're healthy. The biggest

763
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 1: question to me is what do you do at the

764
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: backup tackle spot? Because Cam Irving, I think is a

765
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: very solid veteran backup swing tackle. But can you afford

766
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,919
Speaker 1: that veteran player to be a backup in a cap

767
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: situation year like this one? I don't know. And how

768
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: do you feel about Brandon Knight and Terrence Steele? They

769
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: got a lot of snaps this year. Did they show

770
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: you enough? Um? You know, they might have to roll

771
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: with one of those two guys this year? Depending on

772
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: the way the cap breaks down. Um, and then obviously

773
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: you know, defensive line, I think I think they've got

774
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: some pieces. I think you get Tristan hill Back. I

775
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: think he fits that four three scheme. If that's mostly

776
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 1: what they're gonna run, I think he fits it pretty good.

777
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 1: You know, he's up the field, smaller penetrating defensive tackle.

778
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: I think I think that fits what Rod Marinelli wanted

779
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: and probably Dan Quinn too. So I think there are

780
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: some pieces there. But the biggest questions on defense to

781
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: me or in the secondary, because you have so many

782
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 1: free agents and you really struggled there anyway from a

783
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 1: production standpoint. Yeah, Kyle, I just look at Yeah, the

784
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 1: question is, you know, as far as free agency, anyone

785
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: that we may be looking at. You have guys like

786
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: Lennon Williams defensive lineman tackle for the Giants. You have

787
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: Puna Ford one tech at Seattle, Jonathan Hankins from Las Vegas,

788
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: a defensive tackle. You know, there are a bunch of

789
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 1: guys that are going to be available. And we've also

790
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: had seen the rumors with Daniel Jeremiah with NFL Network

791
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: saying that Piney Soul may fall to the Cowboys at ten. So,

792
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: I mean that's very that's very interesting as to what

793
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: you would do then with Smith in his contract, how

794
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: does that move? I mean, he's pretty much he has

795
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 1: an ironclad deal. Uh, it's from from the Cowboys. So

796
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: how does how do you approach that? And they have

797
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: to start looking at it that way, because look, if

798
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: it's just through injury that we're not gonna be able

799
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 1: to have the stuff that we've had all these years,

800
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: then we may have to start looking at moving on.

801
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: How does Lell come back from the hip the lay room.

802
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 1: There's there's so many things that are up in the

803
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: air that we have to address. And I'm sorry, Tara,

804
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: still thank you for stepping in, but I don't want

805
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 1: to see that next this year. I just don't, right,

806
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: so that we don't have to pray Hail Mary every

807
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 1: time he Keith straps up, because that's that's just what

808
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: I can't do that hack ahead with that all right now?

809
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: Bye bye? Then thank you, Yeah, thank you, thank you

810
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: for your service. You know isam, But but I but

811
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. Heck, how you draft

812
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: anything other than defense at ten? I know that's yeah,

813
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 1: I'm going you guys labeled me best of all, Like I,

814
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: I think you have to go need it. You cannot No, no, no, no, Rob, no, Pe,

815
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 1: You're not gonna do that. M not on this show.

816
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: So so, if if it was available, if Rob was

817
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: going to continue his best player Available march where he

818
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: is going down the street and he is marching to

819
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 1: the beat of the druma best player available, he would

820
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 1: pick Kyle Pitts, probably at ten, and you would pick

821
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts at number ten overall. I don't know if

822
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: I'm a Kyle the heck do you do that? He

823
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: may be in the Hall of Fame in fifteen years,

824
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: but I just don't know how you do that? How

825
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: do you say that? And not? If you if you

826
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: love the tight end position Kelsey Kittle and you see

827
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 1: what it does for other teams, how could you not?

828
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: We just spent forty minutes talking about the defense and

829
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: how do you text it? And so we got a

830
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: tight end at ten. I'm hey, look, I'm just if

831
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna you, you shoved it down my throat BP

832
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: A BPA, So don't change up on me now, Rob

833
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: Isaiah stand back. You are now the interim GM of

834
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Talking Cowboys Podcast. Okay, you're at number

835
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: ten right now. You've got Kyle Pitts on the table.

836
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: He's your sixth rated player overall at ten. Then you've

837
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,240
Speaker 1: got Caleb Farley on the table, he's your twelfth rated

838
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: player overall. And Christian Barrowmore, who's number fifteen overall. Who

839
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: do you take? Who do you pull the trigger on? Isaiah?

840
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: Cowboys Nation is leaning upon you? Yeah, you didn't say,

841
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: was it a certain certain Yeah? He's lower than Farley?

842
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 1: What's his name? That's what I'm getting. That's what I'm getting. Defense. Yeah,

843
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: I would not if the tight end presents himself first. Yeah,

844
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,280
Speaker 1: I'm taking the tight end. I just gave you the scenario.

845
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: I just gave you three players that you have. I know,

846
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: I know, I'm taking a boyfriend, pitt the tight end,

847
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,439
Speaker 1: the tight end. I'm just I'm just talking about Okay,

848
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864
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865
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866
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867
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868
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869
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872
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873
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875
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876
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Speaker 1: So the rankum rookies picking the Cowboys top ten rookies

933
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: of twenty twenteen. Before I go through kind of the

934
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 1: the actual results of this, I want to hear who

935
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 1: your top rookie was of twenty twenty. Isaiah. We'll start

936
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 1: with you on that. No, let's go with that my first,

937
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: because I know he would probably feel the pressure of this.

938
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: But who was your top rookie of twenty twenty? And why,

939
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: oh wait, that is tough. Um golly, I'm gonna have

940
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: to go Ceede Lamb And that's the that's the easy

941
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,760
Speaker 1: way out, man. And this is he came up big

942
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 1: in games, and I really want to pick Trayvon Biggs,

943
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: but yeah, Ceedee Lamb would would be it. I think

944
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 1: he played above and beyond. I think those first four

945
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 1: games with Dak you could tell man that he was

946
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: just his trajectory was through the roof and the type

947
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 1: of season that he was about to have. But even

948
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 1: with some of the substitutes, some of the other guys

949
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 1: coming in, he still maintained has some key drops in games,

950
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: but still Ceedee Lamb was a bright spot. All right, Isaiah,

951
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 1: I'm torn on this one. I think CD is the

952
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,720
Speaker 1: easy answer. I think when you think about long term potential,

953
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: in long term growth from this year, I I gotta

954
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: go with Dicks. I was excuse me. I was hard

955
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: on Dicks as he should have been hard on him.

956
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 1: I mean, but he faced the best NFL has to

957
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 1: throw at him, hands down, and I think that as

958
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 1: bad as it was for him this year, it's kind

959
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: of like the big brother beating you up, and you

960
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 1: come back the next year and guess what, everybody doesn't

961
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: seem that bad. So I think that going into next

962
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,479
Speaker 1: year he will make leaps and bounds. But he needed

963
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,280
Speaker 1: to get that that whoop that boot this year first,

964
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: had to get the trial by fire a little bit there. Absolutely, Yeah,

965
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 1: that's that's what That's what y'all said. Y'all say, throw

966
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: him to the fire. So that's what happened. That's what

967
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: exactly we did. So that's what happened. Yeah, Rob, who

968
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: was your top rookie? I'd have to say CD. I

969
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 1: know that's the easy answer. But he played every game

970
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 1: and I think you saw Pro Bowl potential just like

971
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: you expected when you drafted him. The numbers weren't the

972
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: best among the rookie class. Um he did play with

973
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,919
Speaker 1: four different quarterbacks, and he's also sharing a passing game

974
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,240
Speaker 1: with Amari Cooper who had ninety something catches, and Michael

975
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: gallup so and Dalton Scholtz at sixty three about that, so,

976
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, he flashed some plays where you're like, wow,

977
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 1: he could definitely be a star in this league. And

978
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: I think Diggs did too, but he missed think he

979
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 1: missed a month and he did give up some big plays.

980
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: I think though, when you look at the class overall,

981
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: it looks promising, especially with maybe four out of the

982
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: of the class, looks looks really promising, if not Pro bowlers,

983
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: then starters. It was funny whenever Nick Eatman asked me

984
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 1: for my list of rookies to go through Rob, I

985
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 1: actually left Ceedee Lamb completely off the list because I

986
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 1: don't really look at him as a rookie. I really

987
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: don't like the way that he played. It didn't remind

988
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: me of a rookie. I know it was his rookie year,

989
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: and he played very well, and I mean there were

990
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 1: times where hey, look, they're Ceedee Lamb, the rookie that's

991
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: not gonna happen in two or three years hopefully. But

992
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: I mean Ultimately, I think he had a good enough

993
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: season to where he was by far the top rookie

994
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys drafted last year, as you expect him

995
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: to be a first round pick. And also not to mention,

996
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 1: I think if you put him into the different situation,

997
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,399
Speaker 1: like if you flip flop Justin Jefferson and Ceedee Lamb,

998
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,280
Speaker 1: I think Ceedee Lamb has the same kind of season,

999
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: maybe even better than what Justin Jefferson did, just based

1000
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: off of the situations in which they are. And it

1001
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: wasn't perfect. I mean there's some key drops that you add,

1002
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: especially late in the game against the Giants. So but

1003
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: he's man. He is really hard on himself. You talked

1004
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: to him after those kind of plays, and he I

1005
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be better for it, just like Isaiah

1006
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 1: said about Diggs, I think he's gonna come back stronger

1007
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 1: and try to write some of that stuff. So the

1008
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 1: top three players on this rank of article, I'll get

1009
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: to you here and just second, Isaiah, I'll say this

1010
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: real quickly. Ceedee Lamb was number one, Trayvon Diggs was

1011
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 1: number two, and Neville Gallimore was number three. That's really simple,

1012
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,479
Speaker 1: and it's really easy because guess what rounds. Those guys

1013
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: were picked in the first round, the second round, and

1014
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: the third round, respectively. So that's what you expect, and

1015
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 1: that's a good draft clash. If you can hit on

1016
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: your Day one and Day two picks like the Cowboys

1017
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 1: did to where they had a rookie impact from all

1018
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 1: three of those guys, that's pretty impressive. I say what

1019
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: you got. No, I was just gonna ask you if

1020
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: you hit now that you have the first year behind you,

1021
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:20,320
Speaker 1: if you had opportunity to swap picks Justin Jefferson or

1022
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,479
Speaker 1: a Ceedee Lamb, who are you going with? Ceedee Lamb?

1023
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:27,399
Speaker 1: Still I would still pick Ceedee Lamb? Do you would

1024
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 1: you not? I would still picked Lamb? Oh? There it is.

1025
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 1: I mean CD's a beast. That's that's not Let me

1026
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 1: let me put this out there before before I get destroyed.

1027
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,839
Speaker 1: Ceed's a dog. Justin as a dog. They're both dogs.

1028
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 1: They're out, that's out the way. They're both dogs, all right.

1029
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:48,959
Speaker 1: One one is a is a is a pit bull.

1030
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: Right one is a freaking mountain lion. I don't know,

1031
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. He's something some kind of cattle, but

1032
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: but he's a big old bear. Wolf right, So justin

1033
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:02,320
Speaker 1: Jefferson is nasty, He's his route running is nasty. CD

1034
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,439
Speaker 1: CD lamb route running is cool too. But I think

1035
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: I think Jefferson got a little bit more juice. So

1036
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 1: I don't know, they're both dogs. Don't don't. Don't don't.

1037
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 1: I don't want nobody to think that I'm I'm I'm

1038
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 1: pooping on CD. CD's a dog. But I just just

1039
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: throwing it out there, just throwing it out there. If

1040
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: you had opportunity to swap it, would you would you

1041
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: remain with your draft pick? Would you be alone there?

1042
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: I kind of think you'd be alone. You kind of

1043
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: poo pooed right there are soooo a little bit you know,

1044
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: But I'm justin Jefferson. He showed something, man, I mean,

1045
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 1: just yah was exceptional. Yeah, and again he had his

1046
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: like you said, he had his quarterback for the entirety

1047
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,760
Speaker 1: of the season, and if CD in those first four games,

1048
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: everybody was talking about CD was starting to whisper about

1049
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: him being Rookie of the Year. But then quarterback goes

1050
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 1: down and all of that change. And so I mean,

1051
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 1: it's just you can go into ifs and butts on

1052
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: that whole thing. If if if CD has his quarterback

1053
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: for the entire year. But that's a that's a fair

1054
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:03,439
Speaker 1: question between and Jefferson and CD. So what's your pick.

1055
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 1: I'm still going to CD. I'm not gonna jump in

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00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 1: a barrel with two. I go CD just because I

1057
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: didn't see. You know, I saw the one game with

1058
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,919
Speaker 1: George Jefferson. I'm Jefferson. I didn't I didn't see enough

1059
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: of his games, but I know what the production was

1060
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: definitely there. I just think CD with a full season

1061
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 1: with Dak, I really want to see what that looks like.

1062
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: Oh god, I think he's got a chance to be

1063
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,439
Speaker 1: really special. For getting me excited over here, Rob don't

1064
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: do that all right. So after the first three picks, uh,

1065
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 1: this is kind of the interesting part about this rank

1066
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: of article. The next two are really interesting to me

1067
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 1: because you go first round, second round, third round with

1068
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,760
Speaker 1: Lamb Digs Gallimore, and then you go to Terrence Steele.

1069
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: He's the number four rookie of twenty twenty for the

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00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboy. He's number five is Hunter Nice Wanders. So

1071
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 1: those two guys, who, I guess even when you started

1072
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 1: the season one, you didn't either expect him to make

1073
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 1: the roster or they actually weren't on the roster and

1074
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,919
Speaker 1: hundred nice Wanders case, but I mean both of them

1075
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 1: came in played exceptionally well. In one case, I thought

1076
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: one hundred nice Wander was the better punter of Chris

1077
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: Jones and hundred nice Wander, and I want to see

1078
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,839
Speaker 1: nice Wander in twenty twenty one. But then you had

1079
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: Terren Steele, who was definitely thrown into the fire much

1080
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: like Treyvon Diggs was early on. But you saw a

1081
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: lot of improvement from Terrence Steele. So, Isaiah, what do

1082
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: you think about number four and number five on this

1083
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: list of the top rookies of twenty twenty. I'm going

1084
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 1: I'm going nice Wander, Yeah, Terrence Steele and Nbati can

1085
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: Beotis just wasn't out there enough, okay, but nice nice Wander, right,

1086
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: Nice Wander right? Uh, the boy was nice nice. I

1087
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: know punters don't get the respect, but being a being

1088
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: a former special teams guy, hey, I held this dude

1089
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: in high regard. Um he came in and he was

1090
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: booting that thing. He was changing the field of possession

1091
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,879
Speaker 1: so drastically. He was putting that thing all the way

1092
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 1: inside the ten yard line. Consistently, he was giving our

1093
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 1: gunners the opportunity to down that thing inside the ten,

1094
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 1: inside the five on a normal basis, to the point

1095
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: where we were getting used to it, like it was

1096
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 1: almost expected. Like what what do you mean? What do

1097
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 1: you mean you kicked it out of bounds? What do

1098
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 1: you mean you kicked a touchback? What is that? Like?

1099
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 1: You're almost just disgusted that he wasn't putting it inside

1100
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 1: the five yard line? How dare you? Nice wander? Uh So,

1101
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: I think I think he definitely is number four. And

1102
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 1: then tea steel he got thrown in there, you know,

1103
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: to to the to the flames. That boy was in

1104
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 1: there with the in the lions den and he had

1105
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: to fight, you had to fight scratched claw and yeah,

1106
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: I hold I have a lot of respect for him

1107
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: for being in there and and battling it out and

1108
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 1: staying consistent out there. Um and then you know, be honest,

1109
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 1: came in and had had a big impact when he

1110
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 1: was there, but for whatever reason, he still just couldn't

1111
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: edge out edge out loaning rother Okay, uh, I like,

1112
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: you know, nice one that did a really good job,

1113
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 1: built us out of a lot of situations, and you know,

1114
00:57:56,560 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 1: obviously Isaiah took all of the superlatives away with his

1115
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 1: take on and uh, I felt, you know, I'm gonna

1116
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 1: go with I'm gonna say beyondish instead of still simply

1117
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 1: because of his impact and we've been looking for we

1118
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: needed that that juice from the rookie and he came

1119
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 1: in and he provided it. Now, he had a weird

1120
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 1: injury where he straining his hamstring and warm ups. Never

1121
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 1: heard of offensive linemen straining hamstring and warm ups, but

1122
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: he accomplished that, So that just moves him up on

1123
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 1: the list just because he was able to do that. Look,

1124
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: Terence still to me just had him just undrafted free agent,

1125
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, look angels in the outfield story

1126
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 1: for him if he goes to the Hall of Fame.

1127
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 1: I just felt as though he had a really rough

1128
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 1: rookie season. Yeah, yeah, I'm heck you and I agree

1129
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: on this because I think I think he showed he's

1130
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 1: one of what four potential starters in the rookie class

1131
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 1: so far if you want to count Nice wonder Actually

1132
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 1: Nick kind of cooked the books on this a little bit,

1133
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 1: Like I don't think technically Nice Wonders not a not

1134
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: a rookie. But I don't know why that's the case,

1135
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 1: because he because he kicked in the XFL. I guess

1136
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 1: that makes you a pro vet so but yeah, I mean,

1137
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 1: I think nice Wonder has a definitely has a chance

1138
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 1: to keep the job. I think they really liked what

1139
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 1: he did. Um, but I you know, Beyondest certainly very

1140
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 1: well could be your starting center next year. Joe Looney's

1141
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 1: a free agent. Kind of goes back to what I

1142
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 1: said about the tackle depth. What can you spend on

1143
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 1: your tackle depth this year? You know, maybe it may

1144
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 1: not work out for Looney to come back this year,

1145
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 1: and you might go to your rookie guy Um along

1146
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: with Diggs and and cd and and Gallimore who emerged

1147
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 1: as a starter as well. I fully expect Tyler beyond

1148
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 1: I should be the starter next year. I think the

1149
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 1: only reason he didn't come back in after his injury

1150
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 1: was one just to make sure the injury was fully

1151
00:59:57,560 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 1: healed going into next season, and then also to keep

1152
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,439
Speaker 1: a little bit of the continuity on that offensive line

1153
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 1: that Mike McCarthy had so very highly coveted throughout the season.

1154
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 1: Closing out the rest of the top ten, Sean McKeon

1155
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 1: was number seven, the tight end out of Michigan who

1156
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: was an undrafted free agent and came in as a

1157
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 1: blocker and really did a pretty nice job on some

1158
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 1: of those heavy packages. Ben de Nucci was number eight.

1159
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 1: Of course, he filled in on a couple of occasions

1160
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:25,919
Speaker 1: and most notably the disaster up in Philadelphia. Number nine

1161
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 1: was Francis Bernard, the undrafted free agent linebacker out of Utah,

1162
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 1: in which I really wanted to see more of. And

1163
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 1: then Rico Dawdle closed out the top ten, the running

1164
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 1: back out of South Carolina who was also an undrafted

1165
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 1: free agent. The guy's not making the list Bradley and I.

1166
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 1: We've tried, guys, really yes, and one hundred percent hurts

1167
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 1: and I'm we tried every week. It was a plead

1168
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 1: to the coaching staff to please see Bradley and I

1169
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 1: a little bit more. Randy Gregory coming back really hurt that,

1170
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 1: but I guess it's fine whatever. I'm a little salty,

1171
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 1: but it's cool. Reggie Robinson did not make the list either,

1172
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 1: and that doesn't surprise me either. He was really undersung

1173
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 1: his entire rookie season than Rondelle Carter, who wasn't even

1174
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 1: on the team, he was picked up as an undrafted

1175
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 1: free agent, then he was released, went to the Colts,

1176
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 1: then he was released, and then he came back, and

1177
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 1: then he was on the team to end the year.

1178
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 1: So Rondell Carter was also not on the list. But

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01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for us here on Talking Cowboys.

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01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us here over the last our special

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01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 1: thanks as always to Chris Beam and Aaron Gonzalez in

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01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 1: the back. I saw him back there on the webax

1183
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 1: a little bit earlier, but for Heck Harrison, for Rob Phillipson,

1184
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 1: for Isaiah stand Back, I'm Kyle Yeoman's be sure to

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Speaker 1: catch us next Monday, eleven thirty next time here on

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